120Hz LCD, worth to buy?

[fylee]

I am looking for the 52" LCD TV, I will choose between Sharp and Sony only, because my company employee buying plan only offer LCD from these two brands. I found that most of the LCD sells in the market are 60Hz, and I remember last time one of the user said 120Hz is better. However, 120Hz is way too expensive for 52" LCD than 60Hz. I watched both Hz LCD at BB, I cannot tell the different.

Can anyone tell me what is the major different between 60 and 120Hz?

Thank You.

[terrybear]

ghosting, 120 hz is like the refresh rate & at 60 hz its barely noticble, BUT get something that is fast moving on screen & you will see that the 60 hz set will look like it has dropped some frames or has frozen for a sec or 2 but the 120 hz one will play thru it all with no hickups whatsoever.

I see the affect occasionaly on my westinghouse digital LCD tv but thats to be espected for a cheap 32" widescreen LCD tv.

[TimePilot]

I was reading this last night.
http://reviews.cnet.com/4520-6449_7-...-1.html?tag=ms


I'm more of a Panasonic Plama guy because I love sports so the above does not apply to plasma, but I love the Sony Bravias br4 motion flow too (noticed br6 does not have motion flow hmmm).
Where I saw the 120hz difference was a helicopter show and on the 120hz tv the blades spinning was not as choppy as on the 60hz.


oh almost forget to say. 120hz also depends on your source. If using HD rogers action movie 120hz might not be seen but playing blu ray dvd action movie it will be more evident.

[mark_in_2k]

Where I could see 120hz being better is for gaming. On my 60hz 1080p Westy 42" I sometimes find it difficult on racing games, in particular on Grid for the 360.

When you're really zipping along there's quite a lot of blur and it can sometimes affect how well you drive as you can't always see the corners coming. Now, I'm not sure if the blur is intentional by the game devs, or if it's my TV's response time (which is a few years old now).

I'd love to have another TV to compare side by side the differences when gaming.

[urameatball]

what I don't get about 120hz is how it could be better than 60hz when the response time on a fast LCD is 2ms (~50hz).

someone explain?

[movieman]

what I don't get about 120hz is how it could be better than 60hz when the response time on a fast LCD is 2ms (~50hz).
someone explain?

Uh, 2ms is 500Hz. Or did you mean 20ms?

[CameraBill]

120hz is a multiple of 24hz (movies), 30hz (TV) and 60hz(HDTV).

It doesn't suffer from jitter shown when movies are played on a 60hz display.

[urameatball]

Uh, 2ms is 500Hz. Or did you mean 20ms?

oh, good point, lost a 0 somewhere... I tend to do that!

Then again, I wonder why gamers (and even normal users) complain about ghosting on 8+ms panels.

[matkun]

oh, good point, lost a 0 somewhere... I tend to do that!

Then again, I wonder why gamers (and even normal users) complain about ghosting on 8+ms panels.

It's a lot easier to see ghosting when your a foot or two away from the screen, as opposed to 4+ feet.

[B0000rt]

120hz is a multiple of 24hz (movies), 30hz (TV) and 60hz(HDTV).

It doesn't suffer from jitter shown when movies are played on a 60hz display.

Watch a movie on a 120Hz tv that has motion flow or whatever technology the brand name manufacturer has... The movies look 'life like' like you recorded it yourself on your HD camcorder.

It's like the difference between your own home movies and a tv sitcom, the home movies look more life-like...

[tragd]

Watch a movie on a 120Hz tv that has motion flow or whatever technology the brand name manufacturer has... The movies look 'life like' like you recorded it yourself on your HD camcorder.

It's like the difference between your own home movies and a tv sitcom, the home movies look more life-like...

some people may not actually like more 'life-like' films as they somewhat tend do feel 'home-made' rather than going into a cinema and watching it.
sometimes can feel like an amateur film if you know what i mean.

[CameraBill]

some people may not actually like more 'life-like' films as they somewhat tend do feel 'home-made' rather than going into a cinema and watching it.
sometimes can feel like an amateur film if you know what i mean.

That makes no sense. The look of a feature film vs other is usually in the great lighting and exacting exposure they use. Artificially putting judder into a presentation to make it more film like? that's garbage.

It's not that smooth digital 24hz playback is more lifelike. It's that it's been so wrong since the dawn of film projection and they've finally gotten it right with digital projection/displays.

[zod]

I have an LG 1080p LCD panel. And you do the see the juddering as mention as its 60hz, but I only ever seem to notice it in movies. And only in pan shots. IE shots that were filmed from a helicopter, or far away, and pan across the lanscape. The Juddering ins't noo notible either, its not too annoying.

Funny thing is, I never see when playing 360/ps3 games, just movies, and only in pan shots..

its barely noticible, and its not even in all pan shots.. doesn't really bug me too much.

[Phr3sh]

The benefit of 120hz is outweighed by the money you'll save by buying slightly older technology

[belowzeros]

Where I could see 120hz being better is for gaming.

yea but moreso it shines under heavy bandwidth conditions like blueray at 1080p