2002 Audi A4 1.8T? or 2001 BMW 325i?

[bionicbadger]

Back to the Audi vs BMW. Test drive them both and pick the one YOU like.

[gilboman]

Buddy, why dont you get your facts straight before pulling info out of your asss? All F1 teams use a 3.0L V10 , it's the rules.

Okay smart guy, so road cars had traction control before F1 cars implemented them? So F1 teams who spend 200-300 million dollars take technology from an everyday passenger car. Yeah that makes sense. Ditto goes for all the other technologies.

And it is A FACT that honda took double wishbone suspensions from their F1 program with McLaren back in the 80's, and implemented it in the Honda NSX. You for one should know this since ur a honda fanboy

Next time you post, go do some research instead of spewing crap that you obviously know nothing about.

and how long have they been using V10

[gilboman]

Buddy, why dont you get your facts straight before pulling info out of your asss? All F1 teams use a 3.0L V10 , it's the rules.

Okay smart guy, so road cars had traction control before F1 cars implemented them? So F1 teams who spend 200-300 million dollars take technology from an everyday passenger car. Yeah that makes sense. Ditto goes for all the other technologies.

And it is A FACT that honda took double wishbone suspensions from their F1 program with McLaren back in the 80's, and implemented it in the Honda NSX. You for one should know this since ur a honda fanboy

Next time you post, go do some research instead of spewing crap that you obviously know nothing about.

but double wishbone was the suspension used in the 1980s on most cars before FWD became popular and the mcpherson strut became the more widely used suspension

the traction control in everyday cars when it first came out is totally different beast than the one used in F1
you sure buy the marketing BS

but you know what? if you like to buy all that BS, the tires on my car are F1 derived too, we both use 4 tires and bridgestone says it uses F1 technology

[Neb]

Alright, calm down everybody. I cant' believe a simple Audi vs BMW thread has turned into this..

[McLaren]

but double wishbone was the suspension used in the 1980s on most cars before FWD became popular and the mcpherson strut became the more widely used suspension

the traction control in everyday cars when it first came out is totally different beast than the one used in F1
you sure buy the marketing BS

but you know what? if you like to buy all that BS, the tires on my car are F1 derived too, we both use 4 tires and bridgestone says it uses F1 technology

Normally aspirated V10's have been used in F1 for the past 15 years. GO look at the suspension of an F1 car from the 60's, 70's, 80''s. And obviously the stuff used in F1 cars aren't going to be transplanted straight from there, point of the discussion is that it was pioneered from motor racing, a concept that you obviously cannot grasp.

And oh btw rain tires in F1 are also developed for the tires we use.

[actng]

Alright, calm down everybody. I cant' believe a simple Audi vs BMW thread has turned into this..

That's what happens when you get ****** like gilboman making blanket statements when he's obviously speculating upon hypotheses...

and no, I wasn't censored, I just typed asteriks so you can insert your favourite description of a ******.

[SoNgMaN]

That's what happens when you get ****** like gilboman making blanket statements when he's obviously speculating upon hypotheses...

and no, I wasn't censored, I just typed asteriks so you can insert your favourite description of a ******.

looks like he's hated by honda/acura owners too :

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:s...gilboman&hl=en

[gilboman]

That's what happens when you get ****** like gilboman making blanket statements when he's obviously speculating upon hypotheses...

and no, I wasn't censored, I just typed asteriks so you can insert your favourite description of a ******.

thats what you get when owners cant accept studies that clearly indicate their make of cars had **** reliability, and try to make excuses. just come out and admit the make has **** reliaibltiy but you like driving a car with solid rear suspension with chasis from the 70s and underperforming engnies that are made in mexico and dont care about reliability.

best is whining that one is sick of constant studies year after year that show certain automaker with reliability on par with the worst automakers in the world.

[gilboman]

looks like he's hated by honda/acura owners too :

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:s...gilboman&hl=en

oh ya..those nutjobs who think a FWD I4 with 3200lb+ econosedan is in same class as a 3 series

there's nth wrong with admitting the shortcommings of an automaker, but dont lie and delude yourself into believing those shortcommings dont exist

but i'm glad you realized when you google the number of results dont mean anything and you actually looked at the result themselves.

just dont go into thinking number of results from a search on google is meaningful to what you are searching again.

[actng]

looks like he's hated by honda/acura owners too :

http://66.102.7.104/search?q=cache:s...gilboman&hl=en

hahahah what a reject!

[gilboman]

hahahah what a reject!

yes, rejected is what most owners feel when their car craps out on them, and VW owners get that more than other automakers

anyways.. to the original poster, this may help, although its of a 2004 Audi 3.0 quattro that gets its ass whopped, the bimmer in the comparison is pretty much the same as a 2001 one

http://www.caranddriver.com/article....&page_number=1

[romsan04]

well said... cheapos on RFD should buy a corolla. it'll take them from point a to point b without any maintenance, oil changes, or even visits to the gas station. sounds like gilboman should buy a shitbox like that.

From what you said I can conclude that you are driving a shitbox. I know that you like your car and enjoy fixing it, spending money on it and time. Not all people here like you. Some people just like to drive from point A to point B and not from point A to a garage. It's been known that VW quality went down when they moved their plants to Mexico. I have a lot of friends who are mechanics and none of them would recommend buying one. On other hand my dad driving 1987 Jetta with 300K on it, engine and transmission was never replaced or fixed. Of course he spends time fixing little things here and there but he enjoys it but I dont. So I don’t see how is VW are better than Japanese or American cars. For me if the car spends more time in garage than on the road = SHITBOX. And don’t forget consumer reports are made by people from their experiences first hand not from what they heard from someone. If you ignore them and say that is ******** it makes you ignorant fool.

For me reliability is number 1.

On the topic I would get BMW, because I like them.

[Jovi]

Hey Jabroni (Gilboman),

I'll take my SE-R against a 3-series anyday.

BTW - feast yourself on this.

Ps # Driver/Hometown Sponsor/Car Purse Fst Time Fst Spd
1 4 Peter Cunningham/W. Bend/WI NISMO/TeamRTR/Nissan/Sentra SE-R 1000 **1:29.688 98.702
2 42 Pierre Kleinubing/Coconut Creek/FL A-SPEC/RealTime Racing/Acura TSX 200 **1:29.809 98.569
3 36 James Clay/Blacksburg/VA Bimmerworld/Ground Control/BMW 325i 100 **1:30.194 98.148