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2017 Ford Focus Electric (base) $20,536 ON - YMMV

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I am up to 10,000 km's no issues - added windshield washer fluid and put on winter tires, $1.99 and $60 (+cost of tires and rims)
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guessguy wrote:
Dec 17th, 2017 10:54 am
Well it's been almost 2 months since my FFE has been in the shop and still no ETA on when I'll get it back. This is nuts. We've only driven 450 KM. Wife and I are really starting to get agitated and annoyed. I've email Ford HQ and no response. Dealer does not have any additional info.
Shall we hit up CTV news for some help?
Have you contacted the Service Manager yet? He would be the place to start if you have and still aren't getting any information next is the Fixed operations manager he will get the information. I wouldn't do CTV yet until you talk to the higher ups.
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antigua1999 wrote:
Dec 18th, 2017 3:35 pm
Have you contacted the Service Manager yet? He would be the place to start if you have and still aren't getting any information next is the Fixed operations manager he will get the information. I wouldn't do CTV yet until you talk to the higher ups.
I think you are right. Besides we are part of the 1% that have them, parts are not going to be abundant, and problem solving is probably behind the 8 ball. My personal worry is my car getting smashed up, think they could fix that?? Probably almost certainly a write off just because of the parts involved. Then what, there aren't many replacement options.
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Observations I've come with up after 13,000 km and a couple of fairly cold weeks in my 2017 FFE.
1. Get winter tires, if you can afford them. There's no gear box, so you can't gear down to slow down your car.
Regen in L helps, but it's not the same.
FFE's are a lot heavier than their ICE siblings, and in the emergency all that high tech wizardry won't help you.
2. Every time you turn on your cabin heater, it kills your range. Significantly. There's no way around it.
So, for the short trips in my area, 5-10 minutes, I don't even bother using it.
Dress appropriately, you'll be just fine.
For the longer trips, let's say 30-40 km each way, I use cabin heater to warm up, and when just hold temp at 22C.
After initial hit in range, you can travel quite a bit without draining your battery.
3. Don't count on the fast DCFC chargers anymore in the cold temps.
Li-Ion batts have certain temperature range, so they can function properly.
Anything, let's say below 5C, or above 25C, and their charge rates and capacity suffers.
I've already seen 50 kW charger at Ikea running at 9 kW in the beginning of charging session.
Car was sitting outside all night in -10C, and computer inside FFE was limiting Amps, until battery can take full charge.
So, charging FFE now takes almost an hour, compared to 20 minutes in the summer.
4. Install L2 charger at home or work, it will help you a lot in the winter.
I wouldn't have any concerns about winter range in my car, if I had access to L2.
But, I understand, it's not an option for everyone.
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I have received an email from Mr Comtois at Dupont & Dupont Ford. Their claim to be unable to sell it to me has now been debunked. So now they are trying this:

"We were able to have a discussion with our Ford Rep and we will be able to deliver the two car sold to Ontario citizen and not deliver yet. We will not sell anymore to Ontario citizen because of electric car Quebec law. Here’s the price of the 2018 Focus BEV if you are still interested in taking possession of your order (in attachment). We’ve added a 1000$ dealer rebate in the quote for the two Ontario Orders. Let me know and I will get one of our F&I to reach you to organize paperwork."

Attached was an Offer of Sale for $42958.06 OTR. Is he hoping I forgot I already had one of those that I accepted and made a down payment on for $35262.18 OTR? This guy is a real joker. I am aware of the other order and it is a different scenario to mine. It was the other order that helped prove selling into Ontario was not an issue.
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did you guys have any problems today? first real snow day w/ slush and wet snow

how much has the range decreased? is 115km daily doable?
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Gotoff wrote:
Dec 18th, 2017 10:12 pm
did you guys have any problems today? first real snow day w/ slush and wet snow

how much has the range decreased? is 115km daily doable?
116 is my exact range driving mostly highway with the heat on. That has been my absolute worst case on a -15 degrees day.
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Gotoff wrote:
Dec 18th, 2017 10:12 pm
did you guys have any problems today? first real snow day w/ slush and wet snow

how much has the range decreased? is 115km daily doable?
I've done about 75 km today (30 km each way + some short trip with kids). Came home with 38%
So about 120 km propagated range
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My TPMS warning is always on after installing winter tires, any solution for this?
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dgnr8 wrote:
Dec 18th, 2017 10:33 pm
My TPMS warning is always on after installing winter tires, any solution for this?
Cheapest solution is to take a chance and grab a set of Ford TPMS sensors off ebay.....
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Gotoff wrote:
Dec 18th, 2017 10:12 pm
did you guys have any problems today? first real snow day w/ slush and wet snow

how much has the range decreased? is 115km daily doable?
Depends on your driving style... and speed. There are some tips from others in this thread on extending your range.
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Martin (deal addict) wrote:
Dec 18th, 2017 9:26 pm
I have received an email from Mr Comtois at Dupont & Dupont Ford. Their claim to be unable to sell it to me has now been debunked. So now they are trying this:

"We were able to have a discussion with our Ford Rep and we will be able to deliver the two car sold to Ontario citizen and not deliver yet. We will not sell anymore to Ontario citizen because of electric car Quebec law. Here’s the price of the 2018 Focus BEV if you are still interested in taking possession of your order (in attachment). We’ve added a 1000$ dealer rebate in the quote for the two Ontario Orders. Let me know and I will get one of our F&I to reach you to organize paperwork."

Attached was an Offer of Sale for $42958.06 OTR. Is he hoping I forgot I already had one of those that I accepted and made a down payment on for $35262.18 OTR? This guy is a real joker. I am aware of the other order and it is a different scenario to mine. It was the other order that helped prove selling into Ontario was not an issue.
You are much more patient than I would be with these guys.
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Gotoff wrote:
Dec 18th, 2017 10:12 pm
did you guys have any problems today? first real snow day w/ slush and wet snow

how much has the range decreased? is 115km daily doable?
It should be doable but you are really getting close to the limit. I would preheat while plugged in at home and turn off the heat for sometime to save some energy.
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I do about 115km daily with about 40% left in the tank when it's cold, over 50% when warmer. Preheat cabin, use of heater sparingly, with winter tires. Keep speeds under 90 km/hr and drive smooth in L with regen brake most of the time 90%-100%.

The one option I wish for would be a heated steering wheel as I don't like to wear gloves. To keep my hands warm I have a rechargeable hand warmer which I swap between hands while driving, if necessary I can just drop it in my lap in case of emergency. Saves from having to blast the heat unnecessary.
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paksau wrote:
Dec 19th, 2017 9:43 am
I do about 115km daily with about 40% left in the tank when it's cold, over 50% when warmer. Preheat cabin, use of heater sparingly, with winter tires. Keep speeds under 90 km/hr and drive smooth in L with regen brake most of the time 90%-100%.

The one option I wish for would be a heated steering wheel as I don't like to wear gloves. To keep my hands warm I have a rechargeable hand warmer which I swap between hands while driving, if necessary I can just drop it in my lap in case of emergency. Saves from having to blast the heat unnecessary.
That means 190kms without the heat on. Quite impressive considering how cold it was last week. I thought the battery will lose some power in cold winter but it seems not much.

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