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2018 Volkswagen Golf and GTI

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gizmo8 wrote:
Nov 11th, 2016 7:39 pm
Audi and VW is making some nice small sporty cars compare to the ugly crap BMW is doing.
sporty "looking" secretary cars sure.
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This is just a mid model/LCI refresh. Think of it as the MK7.5

I like it overall. Just not the lack of a physical volume knob.

Lets see how many of these things will actually come to the North American Golf. Would love to see the 12" virtual cockpit, 9.2" head-unit + the fancy LED headlights/taillights but these are features that step on Audi's toes. They like to separate the premium features between each other in North America
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Not much changed
Golf's always been nice though. Why fix if it ain't broken I guess.
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Ya this is euro spec we are getting Mexican spec so pass.
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MP3_SKY wrote:
Nov 11th, 2016 5:31 pm
Depending on what you comparing with, if you take a look with the WRX or Ralliart of the same year, their interior is even worse than on a MS3 but cost more.
Golf R with auto DSG and a Tech pkg goes to 44k + tax, which is getting pricy for a small hatch.

it would be interest to see how much the selling this new GTI.
FWD was the MS3s Achilles. They're still great bang-for-buck cars on the used market, but had they made it AWD like the MS6 it would have been fantastic. Fully loaded R is pricey and verges on S3 territory, but if you consider someone looking for a performance/sports car and is willing to shell $38,000 for a PP GTI, why not just get a base R?
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rsang39 wrote:
Nov 12th, 2016 11:13 am
FWD was the MS3s Achilles. They're still great bang-for-buck cars on the used market, but had they made it AWD like the MS6 it would have been fantastic. Fully loaded R is pricey and verges on S3 territory, but if you consider someone looking for a performance/sports car and is willing to shell $38,000 for a PP GTI, why not just get a base R?
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/chris-h ... lubsport-s

That is why. Keep in mind it is an Euro spec but still sheds an idea of why you'd get the GTI over a Golf R.
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Dec 23, 2007
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Hamilton
Did they just remap the ECU to make that kind of power? It's almost as if they are running an APR tune from the factory. I really dig the GTI's in the MK7 guise. Killer interior and ergonomics and fast enough for me.
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GrandePike wrote:
Nov 11th, 2016 7:39 pm
sporty "looking" secretary cars sure.
What do you define as a "secretary" car? Is this a new class of cars or are they just cars you just happen to think look feminine? Last time I checked the GTI and Golf R were huge hits both on and off the track.....
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Oooh, DSG will slowly replace all the regular automatics. When that happens, maybe I will take a look at a more basic Golf for utility purposes driving my Bernese Mountain dog around. :)
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geokilla wrote:
Nov 12th, 2016 11:39 am
http://www.topgear.com/car-news/chris-h ... lubsport-s

That is why. Keep in mind it is an Euro spec but still sheds an idea of why you'd get the GTI over a Golf R.
It's not exactly a fair comparison. As you mention, this is a euro-spec special edition GTI with nearly as much BHP as the R and a MUCH better track set up, so it's not surprising that it's a better car. It's also a limited edition and more expensive than the R in the U.K. If you're comparing what's available here, the R is dollar for dollar a better car for the money than a fully spec'd PP GTI performance wise.
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MP3_SKY wrote:
Nov 11th, 2016 5:04 pm
Although the HP jump, the number aren't very impressive. my old 07 Mazdaspeed3 can do 5.5 on 0-100km/hr and 13.9 on 1/4 mile. (looking back on a 9 years old car)
Most said a chip will bring the car to 300hp...ya, but so with other cars. it is a matter of how much $ and mod you put into it.

One thing I admit that VW always has their own fans.
IMO GTI numbers are pretty impressive. Current version with "220" hp is quite a bit faster than its nearest competitor the Focus ST that is suppose to be 252hp. I think the old SRT4 neon was even faster to 60mph than MS3 back in the day, but that doesn't mean it's a better car. Current GTI, the way it drives is best in class.
rsang39 wrote:
Nov 11th, 2016 4:50 pm
Best guess would 0-60: 5.5 seconds with the DSG and 6.0 with the 6 Speed (FWD is still the biggest obstacle). Most real world tests of the current MK7 are getting around 5.9 with the DSG and 6.5 with the 6 speed for the Performance pack.

1/4 mile i'd guess to be around 14.0 considering the current one does it in 14.5
Its already 5.9s for a manual and 5.6s for DSG. Pretty impressive numbers for such low power rating.

http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/201 ... ted-review
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/201 ... est-review

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