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2019 Nissan Leaf is out

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MoreDealsPlease wrote:
Sep 15th, 2018 3:31 pm
For Ontario are these still worth it without the incentives that were taken out?
Only you can answer that!

But would you pay close or over $45K for basically an econobox just to save gas?
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MoreDealsPlease wrote:
Sep 15th, 2018 3:31 pm
For Ontario are these still worth it without the incentives that were taken out?
Yes, but you're not going to save a TON of money as before. Basically you get a better driving experience and you know your car isn't polluting and you'll pay a few thousand less over the life of the vehicle compared to a similar gas vehicle.
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ysl5710 wrote:
Sep 15th, 2018 11:57 am
Just checked, 2019 will still have same kwh battery as 2018.

Maybe 2020 will include 60 kwh
Where did you check that? Source?
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some1not wrote:
Sep 16th, 2018 6:22 am
Only you can answer that!

But would you pay close or over $45K for basically an econobox just to save gas?
Why would people pay $40k for the econobox CLA coupe, and then waste money on premium gas?
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I think they can run on regular unleaded.

Just have to check how much the MPG drops since it will get affected. Maybe the anti-knock calculations will get used to regular unleaded fuel.

I think I will wait for other Nissan BEV offerings now that there is no incentives in Ontario. The consortium suggests more than a dozen BEVs coming out before 2025.

Of all car makers, I can only trust Nissan/Renault/Mitsubishi for non-compliance quantities.
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MoreDealsPlease wrote:
Sep 15th, 2018 3:31 pm
For Ontario are these still worth it without the incentives that were taken out?
I would say not, but if you have the extra to burn, like not going to the gas station or having green peace status, yes. I would think that a lot of EV sales have stopped since there are no deep hand outs.
xrvr wrote:
Sep 25th, 2018 2:24 pm
Why would people pay $40k for the econobox CLA coupe, and then waste money on premium gas?
So they wouldn't be driving a $45k piece of shit leaf and have baller status?
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koffey wrote:
Sep 25th, 2018 3:36 pm
I would say not, but if you have the extra to burn, like not going to the gas station or having green peace status, yes. I would think that a lot of EV sales have stopped since there are no deep hand outs.



So they wouldn't be driving a $45k piece of shit leaf and have baller status?
What you said would have been considered sacrilege over at the Everything EV thread but I commend you for your candor.

For now, there's too many compromises with BEVs (some on the top of my head are the lack of TMS, lack of ACC, possible reliability issues with the batteries and build quality ). If each kW of battery costs $200 CAD ($12k for a 60 kW battery pack), and yet engines and transmissions cost a few thousands too, manufacturers will really have try and cut their margins to push these BEVs for prime time and to meet CAFE, even with the rollback.
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Been there and done that and while I thank you for your honesty @alanbrenton , I stand by my word. It is a truly remarkable, no, magnificent!, piece of shit. @EP32k2 would be proud.
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xrvr wrote:
Sep 25th, 2018 2:24 pm
Why would people pay $40k for the econobox CLA coupe, and then waste money on premium gas?
Because North American mentality that a German badge is worth $10K?

I won't own anything under 300hp period, regardless for brand.

That said, I think Nissan Leaf at $45K is a decent EV if you subscribe to that ideology, rebate or not. But I hold out more hope for Niro/Kona pair from the Koreans.

Under $50K mark, Leaf, Bolt, eGolf all got their pros and con and none are clear winners.
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koffey wrote:
Sep 25th, 2018 4:43 pm
Been there and done that and while I thank you for your honesty @alanbrenton , I stand by my word. It is a truly remarkable, no, magnificent!, piece of shit. @EP32k2 would be proud.
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Alex360 wrote:
Aug 22nd, 2018 8:00 am
I saw one driving next to me over the weekend, looks nice. Too bad about the range not being closer to Tesla m3 or Chevy bolt
Here we go gain... Why do you need more range for more money? Keep the same range an take the price down.
Who drives 300 km per day?
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typer100 wrote:
Sep 25th, 2018 6:17 pm
Here we go gain... Why do you need more range for more money? Keep the same range an take the price down.
Who drives 300 km per day?
I know we are going into circles. It depends on if it's one car family or 2 cars family. If 1 car, more range will likely satisfy the needs.

That said, unless something magical happens, I don't think Leaf with 60kwh battery will beat Niro/Kona in range.
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Why would I buy this piece of shit for 45k with no incentive ????

My 37k all-in 2019 Camry Hybrid (that has hybrid synergy drive 2.0 with lithium battery) will get over 50MPG and be a FAR more luxurious vehicle.

Why go for a econobox with a stupid expensive battery that has little range ?
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If I am going to get a Nissan econobox, the top trim Sentra is only $25000, so the different is $20000 compared to the Leaf.
I spend about $40 a week on gas; $20000 can buy me 500 weeks of gas, which is more than 8-9 years.
So if your main purpose is to save gas, this is not for you. And don't forget you will still need to pay for electricity.
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chanc2 wrote:
Sep 25th, 2018 7:02 pm
If I am going to get a Nissan econobox, the top trim Sentra is only $25000, so the different is $20000 compared to the Leaf.
I spend about $40 a week on gas; $20000 can buy me 500 weeks of gas, which is more than 8-9 years.
So if your main purpose is to save gas, this is not for you. And don't forget you will still need to pay for electricity.
Exactly. Better to go for something cheaper or a nice hybrid like a Camry.

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