328i - major repair

You`ve been told what the problem is so shop around at BMW specialists for the best price.

You know bmw US knew about this problem from early on. You should talk to your dealer or other dealers to see if bmw Canada has issued a recall /tsb on this timing chain problem. If dealer said no recall, you should try to talk to bmw Canada of this and see if they will cover part of your repair costs (if you don’t ask, you don’t get) and see how it goes first

https://bmwtechnician.com/2017/08/02/ti ... -bulletin/

Bulletin #: SIB 11 03 07

It's a US bulletin, but see if this helps in your discussion. It would depend on your car's date as well.

Picklejuice wrote: ↑

Nov 13th, 2017 6:26 pm

I need some advice. I have a 2013 328i f30 with 90km on it. It was making a noise when accelerating. I took to an independent mechanic and they said the noise was coming from the engine so I should take it to BMW. I took it to bmw and they've quoted me $4k to replace timing chain and oil pump. I'm surprised a car with such low mileage needs such a repair. I bought the car new so I am a bit financially tied to it.

What do you guys recommend? Get the repair and hope all is good going forward or trade it in now band consider it a Lemon?

Good on you for catching that noise early.
Only $4k is a pretty solid deal since it hasn't completely failed yet.
BMW dealers in the US are asking $18k USD for a new motor.

I tried looking to warranty but seems like BMW doesn't have powertrain warranty?

It's best to give HQ a call to open a case. If you can prove that you follow maintenance which you would be able to with the 4yr/80k free maintenance. They may help in covering a portion of the repair out of goodwill.

wing0 wrote: ↑

Nov 13th, 2017 9:15 pm

I tried looking to warranty but seems like BMW doesn't have powertrain warranty?

It's best to give HQ a call to open a case. If you can prove that you follow maintenance which you would be able to with the 4yr/80k free maintenance. They may help in covering a portion of the repair out of goodwill.

Good luck with that. BMW/MB/AUDI break down like this by design. The models of the past 5-6 years are outrageously unreliable and outrageously expensive to repair. Never hold a BMW out of warranty unless you have access to a supply of parts at wholesale and can do work like this yourself. I would cue the Scotty Kilmer video but it's been played here before.

Picklejuice wrote: ↑

Nov 13th, 2017 6:26 pm

I need some advice. I have a 2013 328i f30 with 90km on it. It was making a noise when accelerating. I took to an independent mechanic and they said the noise was coming from the engine so I should take it to BMW. I took it to bmw and they've quoted me $4k to replace timing chain and oil pump. I'm surprised a car with such low mileage needs such a repair. I bought the car new so I am a bit financially tied to it.

What do you guys recommend? Get the repair and hope all is good going forward or trade it in now band consider it a Lemon?

Consider it lesson learned, cut loss and buy a Toyota.

Can OP buy the extended warranty for $4k instead? As long as it's not been documented, nothing is wrong with the timing chain.

http://bmw.ca/extendedwarranty

With the BMW Extended Warranty, you have the added comfort and peace of mind knowing that your vehicle is covered for out-of-warranty repairs beyond the 4-year / 80,000-km New Car Limited Warranty period. As an added benefit, BMW Extended Warranty includes 24-hour Roadside Assistance for the duration of the term. No matter where in Canada you are, any authorized BMW Retailer can provide service. The BMW Extended Warranty also protects the value of your vehicle by ensuring that only Original BMW Parts are used and service is completed by highly trained BMW Technicians.

Contact your local Retailer for BMW Extended Warranty pricing and package options for your BMW.

Damn, this makes me worried as I have the exact same car but with 73k. First of all, sorry for the bad news, that is very unfortunate. This is the 2nd thread where this timing chain issue popped up that I've never heard about until recently.

Makes me want to consider trading it in soon for an EV, even though I love the car! I've made it look like an M3 and is turning a lot of heads.

Take it to Indy shop.

ottofly wrote: ↑

Nov 13th, 2017 9:30 pm

Good luck with that. BMW/MB/AUDI break down like this by design. The models of the past 5-6 years are outrageously unreliable and outrageously expensive to repair. Never hold a BMW out of warranty unless you have access to a supply of parts at wholesale and can do work like this yourself. I would cue the Scotty Kilmer video but it's been played here before.

M cars are very reliable and the non turbo inline six motors were bulletproof. There's barely any F80 M3/M4 issues to report of at all.

tcharged wrote: ↑

Nov 13th, 2017 11:46 pm

M cars are very reliable and the non turbo inline six motors were bulletproof. There's barely any F80 M3/M4 issues to report of at all.

F80 M3 Engine crank hub issue is very well-known

And before than, past 3 generations of M models had some sort of Engine issue from factory

Not sure if it’s coincidence or not but I’m seeing a lot of vehicles with timing chain failures now a days. I wonder if that’s due to the extended OCI.

tcharged wrote: ↑

Nov 13th, 2017 11:46 pm

M cars are very reliable and the non turbo inline six motors were bulletproof. There's barely any F80 M3/M4 issues to report of at all.

Agreed the basic inline 6 were solid. Starting from about the early to mid 2000's German car reliability has declined significantly. MB and BMW of the 80's and late 90's were built much better. The V8 M3 has the rod bearing, VANOS, throttle actuators, not cheap repairs especially at a BMW dealer. Seemingly routine stuff such as waterpumps, HPFP and timing chains are a nightmare to work on and cost a fortune. MINI, another brilliant BMW product are total nightmares. On top of all that the German car warranty is a year less than the typical warranty. My own mechanic with 25 years experience loves BMW's because he sees $$$$$ whenever one drives in. I stand by what I say if you plan to drive these past the 4 year warranty you better have huge money. And don't get me started on the snob attitude at BMW dealers by sales people and advisers just for asking a simple question regarding cost. Seems one qualification to work @ BMW is to be passive aggressive and sarcastic. As for the F80, give it time.