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Apr 15th, 2009 09:09 AM #1
36GB Raptor: Very brief review
Hi Everyone,
I decided to write up a very brief review of my experience with swapping out my 80gb os drive for a 36gb raptor one. Enjoy!
Background
It is good practice to store your programs and data on one drive, and your OS on the other. This makes the job of reinstalling Windows a cinch if it should ever fail. I recently purchased a 36gb Raptor from another RFDer. My intent was to replace my 1st generation 80gb sata drive with a lower random access time Raptor. My expectations were faster OS load time, faster interface usage, and faster program access.
Results
The OS load time was not noticeably faster. In fact, there is now a tiny pause right before the green progress bar begins to move; it was not there before. However, program access times are magnificently improved. Opening programs like Sandra, Acronis True Image, Windows Vista Programs and Features, Picasa 3, Firefox, and Thunderbird are all *instantly* opened. There is no delay whatsoever, which I can only attribute to the much improved access time. I do have UAC turned on, and this is where the most improvement was. Previously, UAC would pause, darken the screen, then the familiar "ping" would sound as Vista would ask if I am truly sure I want to continue. The delay was maybe 1-1.5 seconds, nothing major, but certainly there. With the new Raptor, the delay has completely vanished. The seconds I save is not necessarily important, but the feeling of a snappy system is truly a joy.
Benchmarks
I have included some HDtune stats below for some comparison of the drives in my system. Remember that I am using a very old Raptor, and I expect new ones to be even better. Now I just need to get my hands on a VRaptor
My hard drives:
36gb wd360gd (sata)
80gb st380211as (sata)
500gb wd5000aaks (sata)
200gb st3200827a (pata)



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Apr 15th, 2009 09:55 AM #2_______________
it's me ramin.
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Apr 15th, 2009 10:09 AM #3
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Apr 15th, 2009 10:11 AM #4
As far as a Raptor goes 300>150>75>36. What did you expect? BTW I own all four and the 300 destroys everything pretty bad. Does the OS load a lot faster? A little. Does it help loading programs and large files? A lot.
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Apr 15th, 2009 10:28 AM #5
Raptor 36, despite the faster seek time, is slow as molasses compared to any modern hard drive. The transfer speed is crap. That's what happens when your platter density is nearly 10 times lower than something modern, such as a WD6400AAKS.
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Apr 15th, 2009 10:35 AM #6_______________
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Apr 15th, 2009 10:42 AM #7
The old Raptors are all but useless now unless you get them dirt cheap. WD Blacks = faster, bigger, quieter.
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Apr 15th, 2009 10:48 AM #8
The only good 10k rpm drives are the Velociraptors.
640GB Black is pretty awesome for a 7.2k rpm drive. I can't wait to see how fast the WD Blacks based on 500GB platters will be since the 2TB Greens aren't too shabby (except for their price/GB
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Apr 15th, 2009 10:58 AM #9
The caviar blacks beat the 36gb raptor in max read/write. No argument there.
I'd like to see hd tune results from the 150gb raptors. They are pretty reasonable._______________
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Apr 15th, 2009 11:08 AM #10
1500ADFD is still quite a bit slower than 6400AAKS in transfer speed. Access time is obviously higher, but I'd still rather have the 6400AAKS.
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Apr 15th, 2009 11:17 AM #11
To each his own.
Here is some info from Tom's.
Comparing V-Raptor, Raptor, Caviar Black_______________
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Apr 15th, 2009 11:22 AM #12
Here's RAID 0 with 2x1500ADFD. It's not that great.
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Apr 15th, 2009 11:28 AM #13
A test done on 300 Raptors compared to 640 blacks. Link
The blacks only drop to a 36Gig raptor speeds after 90% into the 640GB (570ish gigs into the drive.....)
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Apr 15th, 2009 11:54 AM #14
get some OCZ vertex drive, makes the raptor look slow by comparison.
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Apr 15th, 2009 12:22 PM #15
I spent some time looking at the SSDs but the technology isn't perfected yet. Too many issues with the Jmicron controllers at the entry level, and to be frank the good SSDs are just too expensive.
Even the middle of the road SSDs seem to have performance issues when doing too many IOs.
As much as a 13ms access time is noticeable when moving from a 17ms hard drive, the 8ms is noticeable when moving from a 13ms.
I'm tempted to think that a Raptor 150 will feel a lot more snappy than a Caviar Black. Any takers?
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