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[Epson.ca] 3LCD projectors 40%+ off clearance (refurb) sales.

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alfietopshelfie wrote:
Feb 27th, 2017 5:16 pm
Don't really care about 3D at this point in time. So the additional "savings" is misleading?

Would something like an HD28 be a better purchase? I'm assuming it's the successor to the HD20.
if you are not sensitive to rainbow effect, then DLP can certainly be a good choice at this price point. It eliminates a lot of issues from LCD (convergence, uniformity issues). But at $1000, I would personally wait for the 4030 to show up again, and buy that instead.
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Still not happy with the 4030 I bought btw, I ended up receiving another unit (since the original had so many dust blobs, they were visible in dark scenes). Now, look at the panel uniformity, compared to my old 3020. for those who bought higher end units (like the 5025), how does this looks on yours?

http://imgur.com/a/J4lo4
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Legatinho wrote:
Feb 27th, 2017 10:59 pm
Still not happy with the 4030 I bought btw, I ended up receiving another unit (since the original had so many dust blobs, they were visible in dark scenes). Now, look at the panel uniformity, compared to my old 3020. for those who bought higher end units (like the 5025), how does this looks on yours?

http://imgur.com/a/J4lo4
Do the Epson's have a place to display a grey test pattern to check uniformity?
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who_ca wrote:
Mar 1st, 2017 1:50 pm
Do the Epson's have a place to display a grey test pattern to check uniformity?
no, I just downloaded the patterns from the avsforum (google avs hd 709). The most obvious for me is with the 75% grey pattern, under the hcfr fields folder.

Also, if you have a PC connected to the projector, you can open windows explorer, or IE, with a white background, and that also shows the issue pretty clear!

Let me know your results :-)
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I just pulled the trigger on a 3700 for $1199. I wanted a 5025 due in part to the better blacks and increased lens shift options, but I am hoping for my basement, the 3700 will be just as good. The decreased lens shift is really the only thing that has me worried.
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I'm considering the 3700 or benq 2050. Tbh I know nothing about projectors lol. A 10.5 ft room as well. I've read that the 3700 may be too bright
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What are the conditions in your room? I bought a Benq 2050 and Epson 3100 to play with in my basement and I found that the 2050 was very dim and the colours were very poor when compared with the 3100. Both went back to BB. I did just but the 3700 from Epson, which is even brighter still - but hopefully not too bright. If the 2050 is a real contender for you, Best Buy stocks them and their return policy is pretty good...
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It's a basement room, one direction is 17ft long, the other 11ft. So I have two placement options depending on what screen size I want. No ambient light, one window in another room, but it has blinds.
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boojew wrote:
Mar 6th, 2017 5:15 pm
What are the conditions in your room? I bought a Benq 2050 and Epson 3100 to play with in my basement and I found that the 2050 was very dim and the colours were very poor when compared with the 3100. Both went back to BB. I did just but the 3700 from Epson, which is even brighter still - but hopefully not too bright. If the 2050 is a real contender for you, Best Buy stocks them and their return policy is pretty good...
Whats your experience with 3700? Black levels, Brightnes, etc?
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dan668 wrote:
Mar 6th, 2017 7:09 pm
It's a basement room, one direction is 17ft long, the other 11ft. So I have two placement options depending on what screen size I want. No ambient light, one window in another room, but it has blinds.

Then the 2050 may work for you. My basement was similar, but I had some ambient light. I also just found the colours to be not as rich on the 2050, but that seems to be very much be a subjective issue... Once I have my 3700, i'll be happy to post some details.

jaguar20100 wrote:
Mar 7th, 2017 2:54 pm
Whats your experience with 3700? Black levels, Brightnes, etc?
I'll let you know once I have it. It still hasnt even shipped :(
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After doing some reading, I think I will wait for a 3100 to be posted.

I considered a 2040 but there seems to be a general consensus that the extra brightness is worth it. Don't think I need the extra brightness on top of that with the 3700 and definitely don't need the speakers, would rather save $200.

I still don't know how the 4030 fits into this schematic, Espson's labelling nomenclature is very confusing.
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alfietopshelfie wrote:
Mar 7th, 2017 5:22 pm
After doing some reading, I think I will wait for a 3100 to be posted.

I considered a 2040 but there seems to be a general consensus that the extra brightness is worth it. Don't think I need the extra brightness on top of that with the 3700 and definitely don't need the speakers, would rather save $200.

I still don't know how the 4030 fits into this schematic, Espson's labelling nomenclature is very confusing.
The 4030 is a better unit if you have a dedicated dark room, as it has better contrast and color gamut than the others you mentioned.

On the other hand, the 4030 is not as bright, so for a living room, the light cannons are better! :-)
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MISSISSAUGA
Think I decided on the benq, should of pulled the trigger yesterday, bestbuy and Amazon had it for 862, back up to regular now.
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Thanks for posting this and for all the info people have contributed to this thread. Just ordered the Epson 8350. Hoping it will run circles around the 65" Haier LED nightmare (from the Costco thread) I've been fighting with for the last few weeks.
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txenglan wrote:
Mar 11th, 2017 2:31 am
Thanks for posting this and for all the info people have contributed to this thread. Just ordered the Epson 8350. Hoping it will run circles around the 65" Haier LED nightmare (from the Costco thread) I've been fighting with for the last few weeks.
Let us know how it goes! I'd be very interested in seeing color uniformity on this particular unit, if you can take a screenshot of something white being projected (like windows explorer, or a hockey game, for ex), and see if you can see any purple or green!
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