I believe 4WD only turns on when needed. Like on slippery turns or whatever. AWD is when all the wheels turn at the same time, all the time. I think most 4WD are actually RWD?
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Sep 15th, 2006 10:51 PM #1
4wd Vs Awd??
What's the difference? Do you turn it ON/OFF with a switch in the car? or is it automatic? And is there a major fuel efficiency between the two and compared to a traditional 2WD?
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i depends on the auto i have an Escape its is front wheel drive but 4X4 when the wheels slip i have other family members that have larger suv's and they have a leaver or a buttor or some have a dial
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Sep 15th, 2006 11:50 PM #4
Depends on the maker to show their preference for RWD or FF in the AWD system. BMW likes their xDrive to have the rear wheels bias because of the rear wheel nature of the non AWD BMWs. Volvo's have a preference for front wheels then the coupling adjusts when wheels slip.
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Sep 16th, 2006 12:21 AM #5do u know what ratio subarus are?
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btw i think AWD and 4WD are rated differently by insurance companies
here is a good and simple explaination for AWD vs 4WD that i dug up from google in 2 seconds
http://www.delalbright.com/Products/products_awd.htm
ALL WHEEL DRIVE:
Definition: A vehicle where all four wheels are driven, but there's no transfer case like a four-wheel drive rig. Most AWD setups are full time systems for year-round driving, and use a viscous fluid coupling center differential instead of a transfer case to route drive torque to all four wheels. This allows the front and rear wheels to turn at slightly different speeds when turning on dry pavement. Most folks do not consider this the same as four-wheel drive. It can be useful (and more fuel economical) in pavement driving where you're mainly negotiating bad weather conditions.
FOUR WHEEL DRIVE
Definition: A method of driving a vehicle by applying engine torque to all four wheels thru the use of a transfer case, differentials and hubs. Various schemes are used for 4WD including part-time, full-time and variable four-wheel drive. To help cut the drive train drag (and reduced fuel economy) that most 4WD's have, a transfer case is included that allows the driver to select either two- or four-wheel drive depending on driving conditions. Some performance cars have full-time variable four-wheel drive and use a computer-controlled transfer case to route power between the wheels.
It's important to note that even in 4WD, you still have only two driving wheels; one front; one rear. A normal passenger car is essentially one wheel drive, because the other one can slip. So a 4WD rig, with the front axle engaged, now has two wheels driving. Then if you add a locker to the rear, you've added one more wheel, to make your rig three-wheel drive. Add a locker to the front, so no tires can spin, and you have TRUE, 4-wheel drive, all four wheels driving.Last edited by Evil Techie; Sep 16th, 2006 at 12:26 AM.
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Originally Posted by Evil Techie
Most (maybe even all?) Subaru MT's are have a 50:50 front/rear torque split regardless of load. The lines get blurred when you start talking about factory specials, heavy machinery and different markets.
STi torque splits are driver adjustable since about 1996.
STi torque splits can be automatically left for the DCCD ECU to determine (from 2001 onwards) based upon yaw rates(at least from 2005 onwards)/tire slippage rates/tp.
The AT's torque splits are 90 front/10 rear (at least for recent NADM models) . Don't know if that's under load or not though.
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Sep 16th, 2006 02:00 AM #7
btw Subaru AWD's suffer from lacking low torque since its not 4WD?
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Torque as in at the engine or on the ground? I'm thinking you're talking about to the ground because engine wise, it's the only Japanese manufacturer that makes or made torquey 4 cylinder engines down low in the rev range. Nissan and Toyota make honourable mention engines torque-wise but they are 6 cylinder engines.
Are you talking the Subarus not having a High-Low transfer case like most trucks are equipped with?
The Subarus consumers can purchase in North America are not trucks and as such, do not come with H-L cases. I'm assuming that they don't stand to gain any money by putting a truck transmission into a car but that's just speculation on my part.
For example, the Forester is based off an Impreza chassis.
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Oct 15th, 2006 10:26 PM #9
If you car is AWD, it CANNOT BE TURN OFF. Its full time AWD. That means the computer checks the wheels like 200 times a second (depending on what car you have) to see if it slips or loose traction, etc. It then transfer power to wheels to keep the car going at where the driver wants it to. Most SUV now a days are AWD. Most sports car that runs on more then 2 wheels are AWD not 4WD.
4WD is you can manually adjust which wheels to drive the car. This is used for real offroad. You can set front wheels only, rear wheel only, or 4 wheels. In basic 4WD, it is usually rear wheel only or 4 wheels. But an expensive top line offroad vehicle that is 4WD lets you drive with front wheel power only as well.
There is an ON/OFF switch for 4WD but none for AWD.
AWD makes driving easy but extream offraod or hill climb, you need 4WD
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to my knowledge its either 4x4 or AWD. 4WD I think is toyota's version of AWD ?
4x4 is all time 4 wheel drive meaning all 4 wheels are getting the same power (well with technologies these days they can adjust the power to each wheel so ...)
AWD is pretty much FWD or RWD car but when the system detects slippage it kicks in the opposite wheels (FWD its the Rears, RWD its the fronts) Subaru has one of the best AWD systems as with Audi's Quattro.
Note Traction Control is not the same as AWD, traction control will detect slippage and adjust the powers to those wheels rather then activate another system in the case of AWD.
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AWD is what it says...ALL WHEEL DRIVE. Whether it's 50/50 30/70. As long as all 4 wheels ALWAYS drive..it's AWD.
Here's the tricky part.
4WD means the driver and engage and disengage which wheels are driving. Olden days, you needed to lock the hub and drive for a bit to engage and disengage the 4WD. Then there was a system that looked like an automatic shiftbox in the car that alowed drivers to engage and disengage front wheel, rear wheel, 4 wheel, high and low. Now it seems like it's push button.
Toyota and Honda (RAV4 and CR-V) are not driver controlled 4wd systems. Honda calls thiers Real-Time which mean it's front wheel drive until it detects a slip then it engages 4 wheel drive on it's own.
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