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Acrobits Groundwire SIP client $6.99 iOS / $5.49 Android

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TanGU wrote:
Nov 8th, 2017 11:19 am
Op should put US deal, Canadian is 6.99
$6.99 is also 50% off for Canadian price. So it is not really an US only deal. However, the price on the title should be changed.
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Thanks OP, was waiting for it to go on sale

Was using (free) Zoiper but didn't have CallKit.
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sexyj wrote:
Nov 8th, 2017 11:35 am
what function does this have over csipsimple ?
I use free csipsimple also on android with no issue at all with receiving calls and battery. I might try acrobits for iphone since I have yet to find a reliable free background app on ios.
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marc_t wrote:
Nov 8th, 2017 11:13 am
Somewhat related;

Just saw your sig; If I understand correctly, you're on LTE with VOIP ?
I'm on 3G and it's a pain sometimes (bandwidth issue perhaps?)
Voip on LTE is indistinguishably good unless you are in a fast moving vehicle although I still have calls while the quality dips. Another issue would be when you are not in a place where LTE is not going to reach you, but thats the risk of trying to save money at the cost of call quality.
3G seems to be of latency, jitter, and sometimes bandwidth although still usable.
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Also, from the developer's features list
Make an in app purchase to add G.729 Annex A
Found a screenshot (see below) that the G.729 cost is 6-British-Pound; which is roughly $10 CAD

That kind of cost, there are many choices.
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I just got it for my iPhone. At work, my company's firewall blocks voip.ms's ports. This app allows me to choose to use LTE for voip even when my phone is connected to the company WiFi. Furthermore, the app uses push notification so I can close the app. This apparently makes it such that it uses less batteries vs other apps that you must keep open. I use to use Zoiper when I was on Android, but there aren't many good IOS options, so thank you for posting this deal.
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Clee wrote:
Nov 8th, 2017 11:09 am
I may try it out. I am pissed at CoutherPath Bria, I bought their app and now they switched to subscribtion with monthly fees so I need to pay again.
I'm was in the same boat as you -- You can still install the legacy app if you go to your play store purchase history (they just de-listed it from the public play store).
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DragOnT wrote:
Nov 8th, 2017 12:38 pm
Found a screenshot (see below) that the G.729 cost is 6-British-Pound; which is roughly $10 CAD
G.729a add-on is $6.99 CAD on iOS. It's not $10.

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And it appears to be $4.99 for Android users.
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DragOnT wrote:
Nov 8th, 2017 12:38 pm
Also, from the developer's features list

Found a screenshot (see below) that the G.729 cost is 6-British-Pound; which is roughly $10 CAD

That kind of cost, there are many choices.
Yeah, G.729 is a must on cell-phones. This makes it $6.99 + $10 = $17. Pretty cold deal
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What's the diff with G.729? Never had it on the free apps I used and call quality was still excellent (Granted I live in urban Montreal not rural)
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SomeGuyNamedBob wrote:
Nov 8th, 2017 1:25 pm
Yeah, G.729 is a must on cell-phones. This makes it $6.99 + $10 = $17. Pretty cold deal
G.729 is not necessary on any modern cellphone and provides worse quality than G.711 (u-law).
G.729 uses ~4KB/s (14MB/h) and G.711 uses ~11Kb/s (40MB/h) both of which are easy on an LTE connection so why would you use the lower quality and more expensive one?
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mobad wrote:
Nov 8th, 2017 2:25 pm
G.729 is not necessary on any modern cellphone and provides worse quality than G.711 (u-law).
G.729 uses ~4KB/s (14MB/h) and G.711 uses ~11Kb/s (40MB/h) both of which are easy on an LTE connection so why would you use the lower quality and more expensive one?
If you have picture-perfect LTE connectivity always and everywhere you go, then yeah, the G729 license is an unnecessary investment. For us that live in the real world and plan to use our phones inside buildings, while driving, or out of major urban centers, G729 is preferred.
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mobad wrote:
Nov 8th, 2017 2:25 pm
G.729 is not necessary on any modern cellphone and provides worse quality than G.711 (u-law).
G.729 uses ~4KB/s (14MB/h) and G.711 uses ~11Kb/s (40MB/h) both of which are easy on an LTE connection so why would you use the lower quality and more expensive one?
G.729a shouldn't be used unless you're having issues on a poor cellular data signal or have bandwidth issues. G.729a certainly sounds worse than G.711u.

G.729 often defaults to using 30ms packetization periods, instead of 20ms from G.711u, which increases latency, slightly from the time you speak until the time it's heard. In this example, increased compression increases latency.

Increased compression, however, can help with bandwidth and QoS issues. If you're on 3G, or in a weak signal area, you may find G.711u simply won't work well. I usually dial into my Obihai ATA using regular cellular airtime when this happens to place long distance calls instead of switching to some lower bitrate, lossy codec.

Groundwire is a pretty powerful SIP app that offers push server access (that does have a privacy downside insofar as you're providing SIP credentials to a third party, Acrobits in this case; Acrobits is reputable, but that's still a potential privacy issue) and free, responsive tech support without subscriptions. The cost to me is inconsequential; I paid full price and own all the add-ons. I would buy them again. On iOS (I can't remember the last time I tested Groundwire on Android), Groundwire also handoffs calls between Wi-Fi and cellular data without dropping them.
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I use Zopier (newest version I believe still in BETA) and works really well, receive and make calls flawlessly and does not kill my battery, normally does not even show in the top battery consumption apps unless I actually use it to make / receive calls... Bluetooth headset support, which is one of the main features of this new version is still a little buggy though which is the only reason I considered this deal.

Looking at Groundwire reviews seems like they recently did some mayor GUI changes and it has been awful since so I'll pass...

Couple of notes:

- G.729 is really recommended as cellphones not always have good data bandwidth available, if you are always on WiFi its a non issue but if you use it while on the road this will make a big improvement in call quality. On Zoiper it is also a Premium feature (I think I paid $10 for it too), please note this is not because the developer is greedy, G.729 is owned by Digium and everyone using it needs to pay for it (per channel). I believe there is a free implementation but intended for research only and much lower audio quality and worst latency...

- With any client you use, make sure you have your SIP Transport set to TCP or TLS (if supported by your provider / SIP server), UDP transport for SIP accounts is one of the main battery killers.
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