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RolandCouch wrote:
Jul 2nd, 2017 10:02 pm
That seems not bad. I've been checking for Australia, Ireland, USA, etc....get no value for points on any of them. Guess I'll keep looking.
Jon Lai wrote:
Jul 2nd, 2017 10:32 pm
Points are constant per destination while price varies from season to season. If you're flying during high season, for sure you will find something that is "better value".

Flights within North America are generally bad value relative to Europe and Asia.
Best value: YOW to YFB 15000 miles on Canadian North or First Air. This trip roundtrip goes for $2400, so Rolandcouch, come visit me for the best value Smiling Face With Open Mouth And Smiling Eyes
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xgbsSS wrote:
Jul 5th, 2017 6:35 pm
Best value: YOW to YFB 15000 miles on Canadian North or First Air. This trip roundtrip goes for $2400, so Rolandcouch, come visit me for the best value Smiling Face With Open Mouth And Smiling Eyes
For that low miles...I actually would go up to Nunavut.
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Apr 25, 2006
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Is this stock going to zero?

Technology advances can create loyalty programs for virtually anyone

Aimia does sell or provide any real meaningful services as they have collected customer information and issued "points"

Aimia must have had notice from AC that they weren't renewing and had all this time to line up new partners

Aimia had alll the time in the world since their rcreation to align themselves with more partners

AC leaving is a red flag and hurt aimia as a brand

Only positive side is that Aimia is "cheap" but it's really heap for reasons above.

Should one sell or go long?
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1xTiMeR wrote:
Jul 6th, 2017 7:42 pm
Is this stock going to zero?

Technology advances can create loyalty programs for virtually anyone

Aimia does sell or provide any real meaningful services as they have collected customer information and issued "points"

Aimia must have had notice from AC that they weren't renewing and had all this time to line up new partners

Aimia had alll the time in the world since their rcreation to align themselves with more partners

AC leaving is a red flag and hurt aimia as a brand

Only positive side is that Aimia is "cheap" but it's really heap for reasons above.

Should one sell or go long?
I disagree - AIM is basically a big data company. Their value is all the customer data that they have, and the contracts they have with a bunch of large companies.
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1xTiMeR wrote:
Jul 6th, 2017 7:42 pm
Is this stock going to zero?

Technology advances can create loyalty programs for virtually anyone

Aimia does sell or provide any real meaningful services as they have collected customer information and issued "points"

Aimia must have had notice from AC that they weren't renewing and had all this time to line up new partners

Aimia had alll the time in the world since their rcreation to align themselves with more partners

AC leaving is a red flag and hurt aimia as a brand

Only positive side is that Aimia is "cheap" but it's really heap for reasons above.

Should one sell or go long?
This is a long term hold.

AC's decision to leave is because they want to create their own loyalty program under their own name. There's nothing wrong with that.... who knows they could fail miserably? I know several people personally that avoids Air Canada and only travels with Westjet. Maybe AC wants to be like westjet where westjet has a points program and their own credit card (with RBC ie. WJ world elite mastercard).

In my opinion, this stock was definitely oversold and AIM should be able to find a new partner
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When Air Canada launches their program and the banks launch AC points credit cards,as a current aeroplan member and holder of an aeroplan points card......what would you do? I'll switch.

Even if they partner with WestJet(very unlikely,in my opinion),in comparison with the options to redeem for flights with Westjet vs. AC/Star alliance....I'm chosing AC points/AC credit cards.

Which points program do you think CIBC and TD will want to offer after their AE contract expires? BTW,anyone know,if CIBC and TD can terminate their relationship earlier,given the "material change"?
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fadetogrey wrote:
Jul 8th, 2017 3:15 pm
When Air Canada launches their program and the banks launch AC points credit cards,as a current aeroplan member and holder of an aeroplan points card......what would you do? I'll switch.

Even if they partner with WestJet(very unlikely,in my opinion),in comparison with the options to redeem for flights with Westjet vs. AC/Star alliance....I'm chosing AC points/AC credit cards.

Which points program do you think CIBC and TD will want to offer after their AE contract expires? BTW,anyone know,if CIBC and TD can terminate their relationship earlier,given the "material change"?
I'll agree that you will switch. I'd argue that the majority of Canadians will not. Savvy shoppers are not the majority of the population. How many people have land lines and pay bell an absurd amount of money while also having cell phones, just in case... How many people have stupidly expensive cable/satellite packages while having Netflix or Prime Video and an internet connection, because it's easier...

The problem with booking on air Canada with aeroplan points are the rediculous fees that air Canada straps on. Book with a different airline and the fees shrink considerably. Aeroplans problem is a lack of a domestic partner, not an international one. I still think any loss to access of star alliance would be made up with access to SkyTeam. It only leaves the domestic business traveler without a seat so to speak.

At that point porter could be an option especially with it's upscale branding. Porter's problem is one of Western Canada.... They cover Ontario and Eastward easily. Now your down to a problem of winnipeg, calgary, edmonton, victoria and vancouver. Not ideal but better than nothing.

I love how everyone is forgetting that Aeroplan is bringing $700 million in buying power to the party.
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Anyone looking at the preferred shares? They seem to be priced as if the dividend will be put back into place. I've been trying to estimate their value based on liquidation value, but am having trouble given the amount of intangibles/goodwill on the balance sheet.
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If the ER is bad, the stock will tank. There isn't any indicator to the positive lately.
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How can the ER be good? They haven't had positive EPS since 2012, revenues have been on the decline since 2014, and they still haven't announced a post-AC plan. Is there even a chance something good will come of this Q report?
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jerryhung wrote:
Jul 31st, 2017 3:50 pm
well, nasty dump just now
-7% to 52w low $1.42 again

ER coming up Aug 9th
Do mutual funds have a July 31st reporting date? Seems kinda odd for so many shares to be dumped today to create new 52wk lows
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Should we sell or go long? This pos isn't doing anything right now
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