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[Ali Express] Xiaomi Mi 9 64gb $500 128gb $545

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KevinC268 wrote:
May 24th, 2019 8:50 am
Alright oh supremePug, the trade war between China and the USA has nothing to do with this Chinese phone at all... right. Its not my opinion, its a hard fact that buying a Chinese android phone is a huge risk right now. Its my opinion that its not worth risking $600 dollars on a potential paperweight, do you have anything to add to counter that? Or do you just want to attack me because you dont like the truth?
Potential paperweight? Lmfao

Worst case Ontario you just install an aosp rom or wait for security updates from the manufacturer after they hit aosp
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supremePug wrote:
May 24th, 2019 9:54 am
nah it's your opinion, sucks to suck.
reported you for being off topic, hopefully they remove all your posts cluttering up the thread.
Sure, you just don’t like what I’m saying and you will be reported for your personal attacks.
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DizzyYak wrote:
May 24th, 2019 9:44 am
Unlock bootloader -> custom ROM
That’s your best option if you are already stuck with a device with no support, but it’s not a good option for most people who want security. https://mobiletechtalk.co.uk/editorial- ... -good-bad/

I think this is way too much to pay to end up in a situation like this. If android was distributed and supported like Linux this wouldn’t even be an issue, but it’s not. Androids core development isn’t community driven, so custom roms might be fun to play around with but they aren’t something I would recommend to the average user.
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KevinC268 wrote:
May 24th, 2019 1:40 pm
Most people can’t do that and you are running an outdated OS at that point. These devices already had abysmal support in the best of instances, what makes you think they will go out of their way to find and patch security holes?
Most of these devices offer significantly faster updates than using any of the "major" brands
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anon_s wrote:
May 24th, 2019 2:54 am
Just because you are intentionally being obtuse.

I said Apple is concentrating on India because of stagnating sales. From the article:


I said Apple doesnt have retail stores in India and are manufacturing in India because of the Indian government policy of "Make in India". From the article:

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Apple moving to India is not because of wanting to move out of China. They are doing it for different reasons and this was decided and planned much in advance of this trade war. Apple has better alternatives (cheaper) than manufacturing in India.
This is completely false. Large shareholders knew about the issues way ahead of time , this is apple we are talking about. Apple was secretly signing agreements and spreading its supply chain to avoid exposure long term. China was always going to be an issue if they did not combat IP theft. You are viewing it from face value.

This is an overall China issue. China openly steals and Huawei is a state owned corporation whether anyone wants to admit it or not. China monitors everything and roots for its own companies to win. Do you really think Huawei does not know what R&D secrets are at Foxconn? Like c'mon.

I couldn't care less, but this would not be a good time to buy a Chinese product. Its a shame because Huawei mate X would have been fire.
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Viper98 wrote:
May 24th, 2019 2:14 pm
Most of these devices offer significantly faster updates than using any of the "major" brands
Yes and no, some major brands are good and some are bad. Most of them have actually been caught lying about security updates. https://techviral.net/android-smartphon ... y-updates/ I would put Xiaomi in the abysmal category, if not quite atrocious. It doesnt make me feel better that there are worse options out there.

You see I know a lot about phones, more than what pr tells us.

back on topic though, there is a real danger any Chinese company gets cut off from american companies which would really mess with security updates. Someone really needs to step in and make this transparent or control it, it should be google and Im not sure why they havent.
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txenglan wrote:
May 24th, 2019 3:42 pm
I'd pay $300-350 for this phone as long as it gets proper Lineage support (which it likely will). $600 is simply too much. I already have an A1 which is a great phone. The OP would suggest it's a Civic whereas the Mi 9 is a Corvette....ummmm....no.
Why?

Every review I've seen compare it to the S10 and P30 and they're double the price, which clearly means something for the value of this phone.

I was thinking about changing my phone lately and Mi9 might just be my choice. Some little things bother me, sush as no headphones jack BUT I mostly use Bluetooth ones anyway so not sure why it bothers me lol. I'm waiting to see what the Redmi K20 will look like next week, then we'll see. No notch and a headphone jack would be cool, but loosing hdr and brightness in the screen... I don't know.
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Did anyone else see that the Redmi K20 Pro is going to be the same price? That or this? Rumours are that the K20 Pro will have pop up camera (no bezels), 3 camera rear setup with 48mp main shooter, in display fingerprint scanner, and go for around $500 CAD for 6gb + 64gb model.
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theXshape wrote:
May 24th, 2019 5:32 pm
Why?

Every review I've seen compare it to the S10 and P30 and they're double the price, which clearly means something for the value of this phone.

I was thinking about changing my phone lately and Mi9 might just be my choice. Some little things bother me, sush as no headphones jack BUT I mostly use Bluetooth ones anyway so not sure why it bothers me lol. I'm waiting to see what the Redmi K20 will look like next week, then we'll see. No notch and a headphone jack would be cool, but loosing hdr and brightness in the screen... I don't know.
lol, soon the next generation of kids willl be like, what's a headphone jack? just like kids are scratching their heads when you tell them about VHS and DVD nowadays
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theXshape wrote:
May 24th, 2019 5:32 pm
Why?

Every review I've seen compare it to the S10 and P30 and they're double the price, which clearly means something for the value of this phone.
Because no phone is worth more than the sweet spot that Xiaomi has already established. I've owned (and still own) many flagship phones and I eventually realized that they have virtually no advantages over mid-range phones that are in the sweet spot I referred to. It's not until I received a the Mi A1 as a gift that I realized that it was better in all the ways that mattered compared to my LG V20. This blew me away and at first, I didn't want to admit it. This $600+ range bubble that Samsung and Apple have created is going to burst some day. People that are spending what they're asking for phones are suckers - plain and simple. Someone in here stated earlier that they feel sorry for people that think that flagship phone's aren't worth the asking price. Well I'm the opposite. When I see people trying to justify so-called flagships, they can only ever fixate on idiotic things like DACs or camera quality. If you want to take beautiful pictures, you don't use a phone in the first place. Therefore, paying hundreds of dollars more over a model that does a decent job (at least as far as phones go) is completely illogical.
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micromen wrote:
May 20th, 2019 9:38 am
I wouldn't buy any Chinese phones from now on. Look what's happening with Huawei. You don't wanna buy a new phone and it to be bricked later by lack of software support. Imagine not having Google services and play store or android BN feature updates... Is be so upset. Too bad for Huawei owners. Xiaomi is no different, they will be ban too.
easy my friend, huawei is banned because they are the telecom giant, xiaomi is nobody.... US won’t shoot a cannon to kill a mosquito. huawei also has Chinese government background, imagine that US deploy huawei telecom device everywhere, and one day US and China go cold war, USA (NSA) have backdoor built-in Cisco/etc, US believe Chinese government will be no different.

again, US does not care xiaomi and oneplus, even lenovo as these guys do not have any real core high tech...
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KevinC268 wrote:
May 24th, 2019 8:09 pm

lol
:)
I honestly start off with friendly debates, but folks seem to have forgotten how to talk to someone with an opposing view. Its more than ok to be wrong, no need for personal attacks or fallacy arguments. Try running a company with nothing but yes men to see how far you get.
I tend to run into the same problem as well. I express some of my views with a "style" intended to ignite debate but many tend to interpret polemic as "personal". I really do think that phones above a certain price range are redundant but of course everyone is entitled to buy one regardless of what anyone might think about it. That's the way it should be. A few hours ago, I dropped in on a Samsung thread where someone asked why people were prepared to pay so much for a phone to which someone else responded , "...because we can". Despite the few outliers who might have a genuine reason to buy an "expensive" phone, I fear this attitude/reasoning is the main driver for buying anything in the "top-tier" range. As much as I enjoy ribbing those who indulge in the "status" game of phone ownership, i too have a secret vice and it is arguably much more nonsensical - I'm an "audiophile". Yep.... Thousands of dollars for a preamp, many thousands for speakers..... I'm sick but at least I know it.

As for running a business with yes men, most militaries couldn't function without it. Having loads of yes men is good.....as long as you have strong leadership with crystal clear vision. If you executive decisions are being made by suits stuffed with morons, you'll soon sleep with the fi$hie$.
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txenglan wrote:
May 24th, 2019 7:31 pm
Because no phone is worth more than the sweet spot that Xiaomi has already established.
The entire post had a lot of truth to it that I don't think everyone can see. This first part is rather extreme though and it varies from individual to individual buying the phone. More expensive phones usually have a more premium look and feel to them that sets them apart and some are willing to pay for this. Some consumer goods exist just as a way for people to show off how much they spent, like airpods.

Many times companies produce a very expensive model of something that they know won't sell much, just to establish a pricing scale in people's heads, look this one up. Samsung knows the Galaxy fold won't sell much, and it makes a $1000 phone look cheap in comparison. It's meant to trick the customer since humans don't think logically most of the time, they just compare one product against another.
I've owned (and still own) many flagship phones and I eventually realized that they have virtually no advantages over mid-range phones that are in the sweet spot I referred to. It's not until I received a the Mi A1 as a gift that I realized that it was better in all the ways that mattered compared to my LG V20. This blew me away and at first, I didn't want to admit it.
This is where i think you make a great point. Processors on midrange phones are only slightly behind premium phones for most normal tasks. Cameras are nearly the same. Battery life is usually more in midrange phones. Cost is way less. Display is nearly the same for most normal use, and overall you can do anything on a basic phone than you can on a premium one

This $600+ range bubble that Samsung and Apple have created is going to burst some day. People that are spending what they're asking for phones are suckers - plain and simple. Someone in here stated earlier that they feel sorry for people that think that flagship phone's aren't worth the asking price. Well I'm the opposite. When I see people trying to justify so-called flagships, they can only ever fixate on idiotic things like DACs or camera quality. If you want to take beautiful pictures, you don't use a phone in the first place.
Again, I think this is a way for some people to show their supposed wealth. Since they choose a better product, the customer also believes it somehow makes them better or smarter for choosing it, just search this belief up.

A phone is very convenient to carry around, and I doubt anyone wants to pull out a big camera in social situations. Society has turned us into believing this is not typical to carry a large stand alone camera most of the time.
Therefore, paying hundreds of dollars more over a model that does a decent job (at least as far as phones go) is completely illogical.
This is a very true statement. However, most people are never logical and most purchasing decisions are made by how you feel. Just take a look at how much styling plays into selling cars and how most people justify purchasing decisions by how they feel about something.
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Buy this, or wait for the Mi 10...I'm not out of my current Telus contract until October.

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