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[Amazon Canada] WD Red 8TB NAS Internal Hard Drive *$269.99*

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Drizzt wrote:
Apr 15th, 2019 10:47 am
Why would you prefer shucking? Extra waste, as I assume you're just tossing out the case, questionable warranty, questionable make/model that you will receive.
Cause it's cheaper than buying standalone, even though I've always bought standalone.
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Sojoph wrote:
Apr 15th, 2019 7:29 am
Is it confirmed that it's a WD Red?

Only reason I ask is 'cause I keep hearing and reading stories about folks shucking the external, only to do some digging and feeling that it's not an actual WD Red drive (especially when comparing specs).

Some folks think it's a different WD series (maybe Purple?), or at worst, a WD Red that just barely didn't meet the QA standards to sell as internal drives, so they're tossed into shells to sell as externals.

I'd been wanting to shuck one of these drives for a while, but always became hesitant to do so the more I read about 'em... So I'd decided to wait it out for a really solid deal on a 10 or 12 TB drive while continuing to read more into the 8 TB externals and finally find out what's really inside the shell lol
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drive inside is WDC WD100EZAZ-11TDBA0 as reported by reddit user
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Drizzt wrote:
Apr 15th, 2019 10:47 am
Why would you prefer shucking? Extra waste, as I assume you're just tossing out the case
I hate the waste personally. There's nothing I can reuse either.
I wish they'd make an externally priced internal drive without the waste. Even stick it in a 4 pack or something.
questionable warranty
0 warranty (since I've already disposed of the case)
But warranty has never mattered to me. With the stark contrast of how much cheaper externals are, I can literally provide my own warranty.
Using this drive as an example, it was $180ish? This is $270 which makes for easy math. I'm saving $90/drive. I can buy 4 drives for every 3 warrantied drives.
This means that out of 24 drives that go into a node, I'm actually buying 32 for the same money.
I'm betting that the failure rates for the next 5 years will be less than 8 drives per 24.
questionable make/model that you will receive.
It's relatively consistent surprisingly. Even better if you're buying them at the same time so odds are they'll all be identical.
Besides... as long as it's 8TB I don't really care that much.

I'd buy a standalone drive any day over playing the drive/warranty lotto.
With a single drive it makes sense. When you scale beyond 3 it no longer makes any sense (assuming you also don't care what drive you get).
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Sojoph wrote:
Apr 15th, 2019 7:29 am
Is it confirmed that it's a WD Red?

Only reason I ask is 'cause I keep hearing and reading stories about folks shucking the external, only to do some digging and feeling that it's not an actual WD Red drive (especially when comparing specs).
It's not a Red drive. It's not even just a "White label" Red drive.
The specs are basically unique to these drives. There's no TLER for example.

That said, it's still a perfectly good usable drive.
So I'd decided to wait it out for a really solid deal on a 10 or 12 TB drive while continuing to read more into the 8 TB externals and finally find out what's really inside the shell lol
Check Reddit. There's dozens of threads stating what people have, what the specs of the drive are, etc.
Between this and the 10TB, there's been thousands shucked.

Hell I just ordered 6 more myself.
If the $195 deal holds up for a couple more days I might toss another 8 on there.
Normally I'd buy the full 30 I need right now, but I just spent a bunch of money this weekend and don't have another $5000 kicking around.
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anatman wrote:
Apr 15th, 2019 8:44 am
Just a heads up that these aren't helium sealed.
heads up, the external ones are Helium drive
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Keigotw wrote:
Apr 15th, 2019 7:25 pm
heads up, the external ones are Helium drive
Not all of them are.
There's like 3 or 4 different models in the last year or two.
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kmchow wrote:
Apr 15th, 2019 11:01 am
Cause it's cheaper than buying standalone, even though I've always bought standalone.
The world is a weird place. They buy the drives, manufacture cases, install them, ship something heavier and bulkier than the bare drive.... Then sell all that cheaper.
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Drizzt wrote:
Apr 16th, 2019 1:00 am
The world is a weird place. They buy the drives, manufacture cases, install them, ship something heavier and bulkier than the bare drive.... Then sell all that cheaper.
As the guy said above its a white label drive with no TLER if you use raid otherwise go nuts but not the same drive.
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Thanks for the heads up. Missed the Amazon deal but was able to get it from memory express.
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Drizzt wrote:
Apr 16th, 2019 1:00 am
The world is a weird place. They buy the drives, manufacture cases, install them, ship something heavier and bulkier than the bare drive.... Then sell all that cheaper.
The NAS drives usually have better warranty, as some well some some additional hardware data protection (which might be disabled in some versions). That's the reason for the higher price.
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yronnen wrote:
Apr 16th, 2019 4:42 pm
some additional hardware data protection
Meh. I'd rather let my file system handle data protection.
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kmchow wrote:
Apr 15th, 2019 8:40 am
To be fair, they were red label at one point (2017?), but everyone in 2018 has gotten white labels. But people somehow think they must be still red. I assume people think that because they can write a script which re-enables tler which is a raid/Nas feature. And don't forget you have to add tape to deal with the 3.3v power disable issue for those internal drives.
I just read that TLER doesnt matter for UNRAID and many NAS don't use it either.

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