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Antifa Activities Now Classified as Domestic Terrorism in US

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silky28 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 3:21 pm
Wrong... The Left did not only have improvised weapons they also had knives, bats, m80 explosives, mace/pepper spray and other things...and those on the Right only began to arm themselves after they were attacked on two separate occasions at Berkeley..first at the Milo talk then at the Donald Trump rally. It was ANTIFA and the like that introduced the violence, not the Right.
Yup, you're right; they had those weapons too. And they're not only showing up at neo-nazi rallies, but at just about anything right-leaning nowadays.

Let's face it, if they had called themselves ANTINA and only did this stuff at *actual* neo-nazi rallies there would be a lot less criticism than there is now.
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ConsoleWatcher wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 4:30 pm
Yup, you're right; they had those weapons too. And they're not only showing up at neo-nazi rallies, but at just about anything right-leaning nowadays.

Let's face it, if they had called themselves ANTINA and only did this stuff at *actual* neo-nazi rallies there would be a lot less criticism than there is now.
Who had those weapons too? are you suggesting that at the first "battles of Berkeley" that the right came armed with mace, bombs and bats? That is simply wrong...the people who were assaulted at the Milo Yiannopoulos talk did not have weapons and did not attack anyone. In the later "battles of Berkeley" people on the Right did wear armour, helmets and carry bats etc. but they did not use them until they were attacked by ANTIFA. It is ANTIFA that has instigated all of this.

And maybe there would be less outcry if they only attacked actual Neo-Nazis instead of just regular people they classify as such...but that doesn't make it right. As much as I dislike the Neo-Nazi message they are members of society and should be afforded the same liberties as anyone else; they should be able to speak their mind and speak without being assaulted. The same goes for radical Muslims...as much as I dislike them - an Islam on the whole quite frankly - we have to allow these people to speak (so long as they are not calling for actual violence). Free speech is easy to call for when you agree with the speaker but it is much more important to defend it when you disagree with him!

And no, saying something mean or insulting about another person or group is not a form of violence!
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silky28 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 4:43 pm
Who had those weapons too? are you suggesting that at the first "battles of Berkeley" that the right came armed with mace, bombs and bats? That is simply wrong...the people who were assaulted at the Milo Yiannopoulos talk did not have weapons and did not attack anyone. In the later "battles of Berkeley" people on the Right did wear armour, helmets and carry bats etc. but they did not use them until they were attacked by ANTIFA. It is ANTIFA that has instigated all of this.

And maybe there would be less outcry if they only attacked actual Neo-Nazis instead of just regular people they classify as such...but that doesn't make it right. As much as I dislike the Neo-Nazi message they are members of society and should be afforded the same liberties as anyone else; they should be able to speak their mind and speak without being assaulted. The same goes for radical Muslims...as much as I dislike them - an Islam on the whole quite frankly - we have to allow these people to speak (so long as they are not calling for actual violence). Free speech is easy to call for when you agree with the speaker but it is much more important to defend it when you disagree with him!

And no, saying something mean or insulting about another person or group is not a form of violence!
I'm on your side on this one; I meant that ANTIFA had the bats/mace/etc in addition to the bike locks and other improvised weapons.

I also agree that the Neo-nazis shouldn't be illegally attacked. I'm just saying that if ANTIFA only attacked them (and not just about anyone on the right, or police/journalists) then they might have had a little more sympathy from the public. Still wrong, but perhaps a lesser wrong.
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ConsoleWatcher wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 4:48 pm
I'm on your side on this one; I meant that ANTIFA had the bats/mace/etc in addition to the bike locks and other improvised weapons.

I also agree that the Neo-nazis shouldn't be illegally attacked. I'm just saying that if ANTIFA only attacked them (and not just about anyone on the right, or police/journalists) then they might have had a little more sympathy from the public. Still wrong, but perhaps a lesser wrong.
Indeed, what leftists fail to realize in their election-related tantrums is that the US Constitution protects even the worst scum, such as Neo-Nazis, Antifa, BLM, or the idiots in the WBC who exist to antagonize people. No one has a right not to be offended.
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AndySixx wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 6:04 pm
Indeed, what leftists fail to realize in their election-related tantrums is that the US Constitution protects even the worst scum, such as Neo-Nazis, Antifa, BLM, or the idiots in the WBC who exist to antagonize people. No one has a right not to be offended.
What gets me is that these same antifas that are out there violently protesting against ideologies they dont believe in are probably the same snowflake millennials that complain that too much homework in college hurts their feelings
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kevindurant1 wrote:
Sep 12th, 2017 9:34 pm
I didnt call you a Nazi. You are the one who admitted that you are defending their ideology. See post #106.
As a matter of fact, I said the opposite in the post:
We are not defending the ideology of Alt Right/Nazi's/Unite The Right/Proud Boys etc etc.
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kevindurant1 wrote:
Sep 12th, 2017 11:58 pm
Want me to post more?
Sure, knock yourself out. Smiling Face With Open Mouth And Smiling Eyes

Want me to post videos/pics of acts of violence committed by Socialist states? If I post enough of them, will it provide the moral justification for groups of thugs to attack demonstrations supporting left-wing ideologies?
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CheapScotch wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 6:35 pm
As a matter of fact, I said the opposite in the post:



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We are not defending the ideology of Alt Right/Nazi's/Unite The Right/Proud Boys etc etc. We are defending their right to promote their ideology,
This is what you posted. You are not defending their right to promote their ideology because its not being threatened. See post #106.

This is civilians VS civilians. So you ARE defending their ideology. At least own up to what you posted.
Want me to post videos/pics of acts of violence committed by Socialist states?
"Socialist states" has nothing to do with Antifa. Face With Tears Of JoyFace With Tears Of JoyFace With Tears Of Joy.

The victims I posted are ACTUAL victims of the Alt Right. This is really getting sad Cheapscotch.
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kevindurant1 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 11:40 pm

"Socialist states" has nothing to do with Antifa. Face With Tears Of JoyFace With Tears Of JoyFace With Tears Of Joy.

The victims I posted are ACTUAL victims of the Alt Right. This is really getting sad Cheapscotch.
Oh it's going to get a lot sadder, that's for sure. Both sides are at fault. But blindly fallowing one side and posting your trademark trolly Face With Tears Of JoyFace With Tears Of JoyFace With Tears Of Joy is just plain childish.
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Kingmoo wrote:
Sep 14th, 2017 1:49 am
Oh it's going to get a lot sadder, that's for sure. Both sides are at fault. But blindly fallowing one side and posting your trademark trolly Face With Tears Of JoyFace With Tears Of JoyFace With Tears Of Joy is just plain childish.
Ah yes, the good ole "...on both sides".
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Kingmoo wrote:
Sep 14th, 2017 1:49 am
Oh it's going to get a lot sadder, that's for sure. Both sides are at fault. But blindly fallowing one side and posting your trademark trolly Face With Tears Of JoyFace With Tears Of JoyFace With Tears Of Joy is just plain childish.
On the other hand, I don't see an alt-right movement of people trying to stifle the free speech of Antifa, BLM, etc. The left think they're entitled to get whatever they want at whatever cost. Impossible to empathize or have rational discourse with babies.
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kevindurant1 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 11:40 pm
You are not defending their right to promote their ideology because its not being threatened.
So you think that if an Antifa "activist" punches someone (who is not offering violence) in the face, that person's right to promote their ideology is not being threatened? How brave are you, KD1? It is one thing to speak your mind freely here on RFD, hiding safely behind an pseudonym. But would have the courage to speak so freely out in public if you knew some would physically injure you for what you said or what kind of threat they perceived you to be?
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kevindurant1 wrote:
Sep 13th, 2017 11:40 pm
"Socialist states" has nothing to do with Antifa.

The victims I posted are ACTUAL victims of the Alt Right. This is really getting sad Cheapscotch.
I can assure you that the victims of Socialist states are just as real as victims of the Alt Right. And the leaders of such countries are similar to Antifa insofar as they are both tyrants who would impose their ideas on everyone else.
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Antifa: Guardians against fascism or lawless thrill-seekers?
I surprised the justification Antifa violence by some.
I've just read that the Department of Homeland Security has formally classified Antifa activities as terrorism.
And I agree its domestic terrorism.
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