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Anyone know about AIL?

I posted my resume on monster.ca and got a call today from a company called AIL.

They asked me a couple questions over the phone and want me to go in for an interview tomorrow, but I have no idea what kind of company they are or what the job offers.

Does anyone know anything about them?

If it helps their address is:

557 Southdale Rd E
Suite 202
London, Ontario
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It's a scam. Don't bother with it. Everyone will get the call, don't get your hopes up with this company. Don't show up, you're just going to waste your time.
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B0000rt wrote:
Sep 23rd, 2008 12:29 am
It's a scam. Don't bother with it. Everyone will get the call, don't get your hopes up with this company. Don't show up, you're just going to waste your time.
And how do you know that? Don't show up or even put a thought into it? If you treat all job offers like this, how are you ever going to land a job? Did the phone call seem professional and reputable? Maybe give the company a phone call and ask what they do or maybe you should've done that in the first place. Is this their website: http://www.ail.ca/EN/
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a reputable job offer will tell you exactly what your getting yourself into in detail.
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BlueHurley wrote:
Sep 23rd, 2008 12:35 am
And how do you know that? Don't show up or even put a thought into it? If you treat all job offers like this, how are you ever going to land a job? Did the phone call seem professional and reputable? Maybe give the company a phone call and ask what they do or maybe you should've done that in the first place. Is this their website: http://www.ail.ca/EN/
Because I've done my research, clearly you haven't. If you google the address, you'll see that the OP's talking about AIL World.

http://answers.yahoo.com/question/index ... 354AAMNzyc
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AIL.. isn't that American Income Life??

http://www.ailife.com/main/default.aspx

Is this the company that phoned you? I know a couple people that have worked for them selling insurance. Made quite a lot of money doing what they were doing.
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mushroomcheese wrote:
Sep 23rd, 2008 12:13 am
I posted my resume on monster.ca and got a call today from a company called AIL.

They asked me a couple questions over the phone and want me to go in for an interview tomorrow, but I have no idea what kind of company they are or what the job offers.

Does anyone know anything about them?

If it helps their address is:

557 Southdale Rd E
Suite 202
London, Ontario
Thanks for posting this question...saved my wife some time with a BS company. Hope others who get this phone call will now know to stay clear.

As for them as an Insurance Company...I'm a broker and I've never heard of them, stay away!
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I also got called by them twice.. the first time I couldn't find their office.. the second time... to my detriment I did show up for the interview, got hired, paid them $$$$$ took the training, passed the exams, paid them more $$$$ and was then given the 50 cent training package..

I have never done sales in my life and was really not interested in a commission based income. but they seemed to think I was perfect for the job.

1. Yes the course does cost money but the admin fee to work for them is a crock of S**t. it goes into their pockets.

Other insurance companies I spoke to actually pay for your training and even pay you a salary while in training. there were about 20 people going through the exam process when I was there... many of these people failed the AIL exam 4,5,6,7 and 8 times before passing.... then failing the provincial exam several times..... this process takes several months..... If the person that hired these people actually took ability into persepecive they should never have hired these people in the first place.....

2. The "Leads": you get are not really leads as the clients do not want to buy the products.. They are under the impression that you are just delivering something from their union that is free.

3. Don't expect to get local or current leads either.. they are usually in some hick town an hour away and usually so old (2-3 years) that the client doesn't even remember filling out the card.

4. the "script" is a load of psychological crap to condition the person to say yes to buying the comparably expensive products.

5. The senior sales staff( the ones that have been there more than 3 months) are pressured to make a minimum of 3 sales a week and if you don't you are fired. They treat their new staff like crap unless they are spending all their time (24/7) working for the company..... and you as a staff member pay for everything out of your own pocket.

6.Their entire focus is to make lots of money and they don;t give a crap about the customers.... (it really reminded me of AMWAY )

I got out quickly before it cost me too much in time and money but it was still an expensive lesson that I did not need.

I have spoken to many people in the industry since and every one I have spoke to gets a funny look on their face when I mention AIL..... and they say I was lucky to get out before I lost my shirt....

There are several Unions who have cease and desist lawsuits against AIL for contacting their union members after being told not too

see http://www.complaintsboard.com/complain ... age/1.html

there's lots more out there...

If this post helps just one person I will be happy.

the hiring manager in london Adrien.... boasted that he calls 1500 people per week and sets up apointments for at least 100 . I was told they needed 10 more agents for london but all the new people were getting leads in St Thomas, Windsor, Sarnia, Woodstock, Chatham and other small towns in the middle of nowhere....

good luck jobhunting but stay away from AIL... London
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Their whole focus is making money... for the managers. In London these four people are Brian Traboulay, Ryan Bisanz, Richard Whyte, and Mike Shaba. Look on AIL London's Facebook page - it just highlights what each agent made. When i was there, my instructor couldn't make more than $150 in two weeks. The only people making money are the managers because they hire hundreds of people. They make you feel special and chosen in the interview, saying they're only hiring a select few. Then when you have the meetings after being hired, you realize everyone who was in your interview group got hired... The leads are ***** and they mostly depend on you getting leads through the child-safe boxes, which only people on well-fare actually fill out.

These guys are crooks and their philosophy is based on lying.

They will definitely not be around in the long-run.

Also, if you quit after making some money, AIL will charge you back for it because you haven't "earned" the commission yet. Also, most people who sign up don't keep their policies for longer than 4 months, so again AIL will charge you back for money received. It's no surprise these people cancel their policies because A) the sales pitch is not educational, but manipulating; and B) there is no real in-depth analysis done on the potential client's financial situation. In addition, you'll be working seven days a week, all day, and all expenses come out of your pocket. You'll be making less than minimum-wage.

During the interview their whole pitch revolved around the cars they have. The head guys told me personally how much they and the other two managers were going to be making and what kind of cars they drive. They're incredibly materialistic... the type that goes to Starbucks instead of Tim Hortons because Starbucks is considered classier. I don't think these guys really have much equity to their names and most, if not everything they have, is owned through financing. Don't be fooled by their wild claims!

It's just a desperate group of four boys manipulating others because of their own greed. They'll be out of jobs in no time and come to realize that nobody will hire them because of their fraudulent practices.

The posts on here: http://www.complaintsboard.com/complain ... 00308.html are so incredibly similar to my experiences, it is shocking. I think the managers have a secret training course they take to ensure all of them are doing the exact same thing to keep their agents focused on making money instead of how much money they are actually losing.... just like each agent has a course to ensure potential clients see the need. it's just one big con.


ANYONE WHO HAS A POLICY SHOULD CANCEL IT AND SEEK HELP FROM A REAL FINANCIAL ADVISOR, ONE WHO IS WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND GO OVER YOUR REAL POSITION, DETERMINE YOUR REAL NEED, AND GET YOU A GOOD RATE. AIL's RATES ARE NOT AT ALL A DISCOUNT!
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xcaspersx12 wrote:
Nov 6th, 2013 9:40 pm
Their whole focus is making money... for the managers. In London these four people are Brian Traboulay, Ryan Bisanz, Richard Whyte, and Mike Shaba. Look on AIL London's Facebook page - it just highlights what each agent made. When i was there, my instructor couldn't make more than $150 in two weeks. The only people making money are the managers because they hire hundreds of people. They make you feel special and chosen in the interview, saying they're only hiring a select few. Then when you have the meetings after being hired, you realize everyone who was in your interview group got hired... The leads are ***** and they mostly depend on you getting leads through the child-safe boxes, which only people on well-fare actually fill out.

These guys are crooks and their philosophy is based on lying.

They will definitely not be around in the long-run.

Also, if you quit after making some money, AIL will charge you back for it because you haven't "earned" the commission yet. Also, most people who sign up don't keep their policies for longer than 4 months, so again AIL will charge you back for money received. It's no surprise these people cancel their policies because A) the sales pitch is not educational, but manipulating; and B) there is no real in-depth analysis done on the potential client's financial situation. In addition, you'll be working seven days a week, all day, and all expenses come out of your pocket. You'll be making less than minimum-wage.

During the interview their whole pitch revolved around the cars they have. The head guys told me personally how much they and the other two managers were going to be making and what kind of cars they drive. They're incredibly materialistic... the type that goes to Starbucks instead of Tim Hortons because Starbucks is considered classier. I don't think these guys really have much equity to their names and most, if not everything they have, is owned through financing. Don't be fooled by their wild claims!

It's just a desperate group of four boys manipulating others because of their own greed. They'll be out of jobs in no time and come to realize that nobody will hire them because of their fraudulent practices.

The posts on here: http://www.complaintsboard.com/complain ... 00308.html are so incredibly similar to my experiences, it is shocking. I think the managers have a secret training course they take to ensure all of them are doing the exact same thing to keep their agents focused on making money instead of how much money they are actually losing.... just like each agent has a course to ensure potential clients see the need. it's just one big con.


ANYONE WHO HAS A POLICY SHOULD CANCEL IT AND SEEK HELP FROM A REAL FINANCIAL ADVISOR, ONE WHO IS WILLING TO SIT DOWN WITH YOU AND GO OVER YOUR REAL POSITION, DETERMINE YOUR REAL NEED, AND GET YOU A GOOD RATE. AIL's RATES ARE NOT AT ALL A DISCOUNT!
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Thank you so much for this!!!!!!!!!
I applied for a cx service position with them. At the time i couldn't find any info on them. App i would have to drive from toronto to London to do a job interview but that i would be hired for the mississauga office that will be opening. I wonder if they are moving to mississauga. I asked to agency specialist if it was insurance sales or actually customer service. She said it was cx service. Reading all the responses im not going to bother.
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Nov 5, 2013
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To add to my original post, AIL Traboulay has their new agents go through the LLQP program put on by Oliver's Learning. The Oliver's Larning website where you sign up and complete the course has a URL subdomain beginning with "traboulay." This as me thinking Brian Traboulay receives a commission for everyone who pays for the course.

He is a slime ball and so is Ryan Bisanz, Mike Shaba, and Richard Whyte!

They are only after making money and becoming "millionaires" through using others.
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Nov 5, 2013
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Read Drew's comments here: http://www.complaintsboard.com/complain ... 00308.html

It's the exact same at AIL in Ontario, both the Traboulay agency and the Altig agency. Just a bunch of greaseballs. The Traboulay agency is made up of the con-men: Richard Whyte, Mike Shaba, Ryan Bisanz, and Brian Traboulay. They all reside in London and are covering Kitchener-Waterloo, London, Windsor, and the GTA.
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Feb 22, 2014
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Hi ,

Thank you guys so much for the info, it saved me a lot of hassle!

I got a call from them last week...
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