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New to this thread...

What's alternate option to CBP for T.O. people?

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Stallion promised to offer in GTA similar type of service shortly. Pls contact them and let us know.
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zamar81 wrote:
Jan 9th, 2018 2:14 pm
It may not be the same now compare to years ago, because there was no hugely developed eCommerce then.
Now most Chinese sellers declare their small items as gifts in CN22 despite buyers never asked for that. Many of these items are below $20 threshold anyway, so there is no meaning for Gift mark.
As well, the $20/60 threshold is well below any reasonable cut point, and was abandoned in border crossing years ago, still valid only for mail items, which doesn't make sense either. Why limit $20 for mail, despite $800 at crossing?
Under these conditions, I highly doubt anyone tracks gifts any longer for any meaningful purpose, as CPC often passes through without taxing items declared at higher price, and the deminimus was unofficially kept at $100 threshold for 10 last years based on CBSA processing costs, except the last couple of years when Trump started renegotiating NAFTA, and CBSA pushed for more $20 enforcement as a bargaining lever. The only entities obsessed with $20 limit are large couriers like UPS and FedEx due to overcharging on clearance fees.
Just because I used to work for Customs years ago, does not mean, that I have not kept up.

Your post here is filled with INCORRECT assumptiions clearly based on YOUR thoughts on the Border politically.

Canada Customs is concerned about the DECLARED VALUE of a pkg. If it is under $ 20 doesn’t matter whether it is marked gift or not, as it is not subject to duty or taxes.

If a pkg is over $ 20 and marked Gift it is certainly “looked at”. And sorry to disappoint, but ya these pkgs & those who import are still tracked by CBSA (just ONE reason that the Imported Mail moves so slowly at the end of the year around Christmas).

If one has a high volume of pkgs declared as GIFTS coming in, then you are going to raise a red flag in the system.

Physical Border Crossings are different than ones for Mail etc

The enforcement at physical crossings differ slightly... and there is always the element of the Traveller having spent time & money abroad. That is key in WHY the personal exemptions are different at a border crossing vs mail.

When one spends no time in the USA... the levels for importation value are lower.

Importations at Physical Border Crossings are at the discretion of the Customs Officer... but they still must take into account the Personal Exemption Limits based on how long a person has been out of country.

And although it may not happen EVERY TIME that one must pay Duties & Taxes on items greater than $ 20, it certainly CAN HAPPEN and is within the scope of the Customs Act. So ya, you can easily be sent onto Secondary to fill out a Customs / Import Declartion and pay Duty & Taxes on ANYTHING that is beyond your true Personal Exemption Limit (ie under 24 Hours, and you are entitled to $ 0)

The $ 20 mail level vs $ 200 (24 Hour) or $ 800 (48 Hour) Personal Exemption limits are far more complicated than you clearly understand. They are ENFORED by Canada Customs, but they are not “recommended” alone by them. They are determined in consultation with a wide span of other Govt Depts (Finance - Revenue - Foreign Affairs - Trade - Health - Transport - Agriculture - Fisheries - Forestry - Industry - Natural Resources etc). It is the Federal Govt of the time who ultimately has the power to change the Customs Act.

What is the role of Customs is to ENFORCE THE ACT

You don’t like it... I get it

You are not alone.

And you are just one of many who WRONGLY blame Customs cause you don’t understand how the process works.

The guys & gals on the line have a tough job. You could make a lot better for them and yourself if you actually knew & respected the law (and the facts).
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Slono wrote:
Sep 8th, 2017 8:46 pm
The unit is different for everyone, everything else in that address is the same. When you order something form Amazon, you should use the same name you used to sign up with CBP, which is hopefully the same name on your ID in case they need to verify. Here is an example of the address you give to amazon:

Mr. Real Name
Unit No 2222
1823 Maryland Ave
Niagara Falls, NY, 14305 USA

I don't know what other people do, but I put my own personal phone number down for Amazon.
You don't need to notify CBP about an incoming parcel/package, they will notify you when they have received it. They identify the package using the name and address you gave the company that has shipped your item. It should be the same one that CBP has on record, which is the same that they gave you when you signed up. They basically go by name and unit number since the rest of the information is the same (14035, USA, etc).

I hope this helps. I've used them for over 100 orders over the past 4 years and have had nothing but good experiences.

I was looking into using this service and found your response to a post...

Thanks for the info because it answered my concerns as well...

What type of payment do they take to pay for the customs and duties?
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Jan 10th, 2018 9:24 am
New to this thread...

What's alternate option to CBP for T.O. people?

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ericdraven wrote:
Jan 17th, 2018 8:37 am
I was looking into using this service and found your response to a post...

Thanks for the info because it answered my concerns as well...

What type of payment do they take to pay for the customs and duties?
Cash, credit etc...
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I went last week. There is a 3% extra charge for Credit Card. Cash or debit is recommended (cash being safer. Face With Stuck-out Tongue And Tightly-closed Eyes)
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PointsHubby wrote:
Jan 11th, 2018 7:37 am
you are just one of many who WRONGLY blame Customs cause you don’t understand how the process works.
I don't blame Customs for enforcing that section of the law, when they in fact do. Never said this. Smiling Face With Open Mouth But $20 mail imports deminimus is long obsolete, and kept by Parliament only due to pressure of Canada retail lobby. It costs more to enforce it when they do than the revenue collected from it.
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Anyone use this to ship a large/heavy item?
Need a small skid delivered about 120lbs, would like to know the cost.
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The price for a skid was $100 + tax (and tariffs if it applies to your items) when I got a skid carrying 4x8 sheet material last summer. Not too bad when you consider trying to freight a skid from Illinois over the border without owning your own truck. I ended up paying several hundred on taxes and shipping to CBP but the alternative would have been much more.
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I thought about the same thing too as friend sends me stuff as my birthday gift but on CBP page, there is nowhere on the declaration form I can mark the stuffs as "Birthday Gift".
When I called CBP, they said anything over C$20 is considered as taxable. No such things as $60 if declared as gift.
gr8dlr wrote:
Jan 8th, 2018 11:33 am
Off topic question but if one has an American friend/family member....

when they send you a package via USPS do you still have to pay taxes/duties?
Is USPS the cheapest way to send a package to Canada?
or is there a $ limit which allows you to bypass taxes/duties.
Gallifrey wrote:
Jan 8th, 2018 11:37 am
-Yes, but sometimes packages get waived through.
-Yes.
-$20 / $60 if declared as a gift.
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h2o- wrote:
Feb 12th, 2018 12:33 pm
I thought about the same thing too as friend sends me stuff as my birthday gift but on CBP page, there is nowhere on the declaration form I can mark the stuffs as "Birthday Gift".
When I called CBP, they said anything over C$20 is considered as taxable. No such things as $60 if declared as gift.
Whomever you called at CBSA gave you not wrong info... but half the info
Most likely in an attempt to not encourage you to use the GIFT Category... when something is not a gift

They were doing you a favour, they just did not tell you all the info
(Lots of folks FALSELY think the Gift Category is a loophole... it is not. Over using over it means you end up having your packages watched more closely ... and could get you on the list of People trying to cheat the system... which can get you on the Red Flag List as a traveller of interest whenever you cross the border in the future... as someone less likely to tell the truth. As a consequence you’ll spend your time wasting away in Secondary Inspection )

When in reality the duties & taxes on things are really so low since NAFTA that it is not worth the hassle... just pay what often is only a few bucks and move on confidently with your life knowing you’ve done the right thing vs trying to come up with ways to scam the Cdn Govt (and your fellow Cdns) over something so trivial. Only to have YOURSELF end up being the one with a major headache (ie an American published Book valued at $ 50 Cdn will cost ya $ 6.50 Cdn for tax).

CBSA Duty & Taxes Estimator
https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/travel-voya ... l-eng.html

Anything on top of that is Mailing / Shipping... which you would have to pay anyhow.

Best advice, as always... just tell the darn truth when dealing with Customs
That includes in person, or when sending / receiving any thing across the border

The bit on Importing Gifts can be found here
https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/import/cour ... g.html#_s2

Curious what form you were looking at (guessing commercial)

But the usual route is for the person out of country to fill out a Customs Declaration Sticker from the Post Office / Courier Co that is attached to the parcel. And where it asks for contents write something like ... Book - GIFT - Value $ 50 Cdn

USPS Customs Form https://cns.usps.com/cfo-web/labelInformation.shtml
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I've used this service once and it worked out very smoothly. It was a great option over what Paypal wanted. Prices are reasonable, I paid a total of $25 in additional fees, which is fair considering what CP wants for brokerage, and the distance it would take to self clear.

2 Questions,

1) I'm having something shipped there that's a replacement item from a company. The invoice I received from them has a price of $60, a discount of $60 and then a grand total of $0. Will I need to declare the amount as $60 since it's valued at $60?

2) Does anyone have experience with their consolidation option when selecting the shipping option via CP. I'm not sure how much to expect to pay in total, but I assume I put the number of packages as the number of items into the calculator and expect to pay whatever cost it spits out?
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zappy312 wrote:
Mar 9th, 2018 8:51 pm
I've used this service once and it worked out very smoothly. It was a great option over what Paypal wanted. Prices are reasonable, I paid a total of $25 in additional fees, which is fair considering what CP wants for brokerage, and the distance it would take to self clear.

2 Questions,

1) I'm having something shipped there that's a replacement item from a company. The invoice I received from them has a price of $60, a discount of $60 and then a grand total of $0. Will I need to declare the amount as $60 since it's valued at $60?

2) Does anyone have experience with their consolidation option when selecting the shipping option via CP. I'm not sure how much to expect to pay in total, but I assume I put the number of packages as the number of items into the calculator and expect to pay whatever cost it spits out?
Can't answer the second question, haven't tried the shipping option.

For the first question - you mark it as a repair/replacement part with a value of $0. I run a small business where I will get my product returned if it needs repair and I use CBP to avoid the confusion when CBSA wants to tax me 13% for a returned item. It's not a "sale" and you're not supposed to be taxed multiple times on the same item. In your case you did pay $0 for the item and you have a receipt.
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Mar 10th, 2018 4:29 am
For the first question - you mark it as a repair/replacement part with a value of $0. I run a small business where I will get my product returned if it needs repair and I use CBP to avoid the confusion when CBSA wants to tax me 13% for a returned item. It's not a "sale" and you're not supposed to be taxed multiple times on the same item. In your case you did pay $0 for the item and you have a receipt.
Great, thanks for that information. This makes CBP a great option for RMAs.

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