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I read a few articles over the last few days. Apparently his reputation is "mixed". He wasnt an innocent generous guy like the public persona makes everyone believes. In regards to his cousins he wasnt "Bank Sherman" to make up for ousting the kids in the Empire sale. Apparently much of the money he gave them were loans with conditions, some were outright gifts. When things didnt go well he would pull loans and forced them to pay monies back ( assume with legal pressure). Whether it was personal relationships that didnt go well or businesses he funded werent managed as thought they should have... so this guy could be a real arse. Kerry Winter was said to fork over 2 properties and a business back to Barry in loans he pulled. I can understand why the Winters would be pissed when it's your own cousin.
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I read a few articles over the last few days. Apparently his reputation is "mixed". He wasnt an innocent generous guy like the public persona makes everyone believes. In regards to his cousins he wasnt "Bank Sherman" to make up for ousting the kids in the Empire sale. Apparently much of the money he gave them were loans with conditions, some were outright gifts. When things didnt go well he would pull loans and forced them to pay monies back ( assume with legal pressure). Whether it was personal relationships that didnt go well or businesses he funded werent managed as thought they should have... so this guy could be a real arse. Kerry Winter was said to fork over 2 properties and a business back to Barry in loans he pulled. I can understand why the Winters would be pissed when it's your own cousin.
He had no obligation to give them a dime, whether it be a loan or otherwise. I don't know anyone that supports their cousins. Do you? As for pulling loans he did that after they sued him. Would you act any different? I doubt it. As for using legal pressure, that's really the only way to get someone to pay you back unless they do it voluntarily.

You really need to put yourself in his position, dishing out all that money your cousins who then turned around and sued you frivolously, as the judge who dismissed the Winter's motion made exceptionally and abundantly clear in his decision. I doubt you would react any differently. These cousins sound like ungrateful money-grubbing opportunists to me.

As for your comment about Sherman 'ousting the kids from the Empire Sale', you really need to read the decision of the judge who tossed out the lawsuit without even letting it go to trial. When you do then let me know what error in law or fact he made. I did and it's as clear as day how absurd their claims were. Until then you are just coming up with a conclusion that has no basis at all.
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Dec 24th, 2017 10:02 am
He had no obligation to give them a dime, whether it be a loan or otherwise. I don't know anyone that supports their cousins. Do you? As for pulling loans he did that after they sued him. Would you act any different? I doubt it. As for using legal pressure, that's really the only way to get someone to pay you back unless they do it voluntarily.

You really need to put yourself in his position, dishing out all that money your cousins who then turned around and sued you frivolously, as the judge who dismissed the Winter's motion made exceptionally and abundantly clear in his decision. I doubt you would react any differently. These cousins sound like ungrateful money-grubbing opportunists to me.

As for your comment about Sherman 'ousting the kids from the Empire Sale', you really need to read the decision of the judge who tossed out the lawsuit without even letting it go to trial. When you do then let me know what error in law or fact he made. I did and it's as clear as day how absurd their claims were. Until then you are just coming up with a conclusion that has no basis at all.
The person is deceased for a reason. It was no murder-suicide. Point blank. Obviously the guy screwed someone over... *welp*
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eonibm wrote:
Dec 24th, 2017 7:09 am
You knew someone would ‘bring this up’ yet you still decided to promote a falsehood? Sheesh!

In any event, referring to your latest bizzarre statement , how is an ex-cop is ‘interfering’ with an investigation just because he gives his opinion to a newspaper?

Your view sure is a wild characterization of what is happening.
LOL, you're hilarious and WAY over invested in this...Did your relative die here or something? Chill dude.

It's no falsehood for ppl that don't take things at face value esp when something is fishy about the whole case. How anyone can say that the case is 'dead' when only a few days old is just ridiculous, but you keep believing whatever ppl feed you, e.g. You readily accepted the silly murder-suicide theory until recently lol.
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Dec 24th, 2017 11:57 am
LOL, you're hilarious and WAY over invested in this...Did your relative die here or something? Chill dude.
Over invested? I am fascinated by these whodunits and make no apologies, and, um, I think it's my business not yours. Your under-invested, which is why you can never get the story straight and are reduced to making things up.
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It's no falsehood for ppl that don't take things at face value esp when something is fishy about the whole case. How anyone can say that the case is 'dead' when only a few days old is just ridiculous
The only thing fishy here is the way you keep making things up. The Toronto Star story you keep referencing did not say that.
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but you keep believing whatever ppl feed you, e.g. You readily accepted the silly murder-suicide theory until recently lol.
Made some sense at the time. As new facts are revealed the analysis changes. Shocking, isn't it?
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aznnorth wrote:
Dec 24th, 2017 10:38 am
The person is deceased for a reason. It was no murder-suicide. Point blank. Obviously the guy screwed someone over... *welp*
Yes, based on the latest reports that they had leather belts tied around their necks and were hanging from the railing with their winter coats pulled down over their arms behind their backs, something that was only revealed a few days after the initial murder-suicide theories came out from unnamed police sources, it was likely someone who had a score to settle who caused this.
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eonibm wrote:
Dec 23rd, 2017 10:38 pm
Mixed messages? Hardly! New facts have come out and that has changed my analysis.

As for being critical I merely point out the actual facts when people get them wrong. Deal with it .
You have been speculating throughout this whole thread and calling people out. You need to deal with it, respectfully and not sanctimoniously!
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eonibm wrote:
Dec 24th, 2017 1:18 pm
Over invested? I am fascinated by these whodunits and make no apologies, and, um, I think it's my business not yours. Your under-invested, which is why you can never get the story straight and are reduced to making things up.



The only thing fishy here is the way you keep making things up. The Toronto Star story you keep referencing did not say that.



Made some sense at the time. As new facts are revealed the analysis changes. Shocking, isn't it?
You seriously can't even see that you're the fanatic here. Many ppl ITT have the same view of you. Just chill and stop being holier than thou, esp when it's clear you were easily fooled. I don't need another example of why your 'analysis' fails, despite your great efforts at being verbose and trying to be THE authority on this subject matter. Too funny. Lmao.
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tranquility922 wrote:
Dec 24th, 2017 7:14 pm
You seriously can't even see that you're the fanatic here. Many ppl ITT have the same view of you. Just chill and stop being holier than thou, esp when it's clear you were easily fooled. I don't need another example of why your 'analysis' fails, despite your great efforts at being verbose and trying to be THE authority on this subject matter. Too funny. Lmao.
If this thread stresses you out so much I'd suggest you not read it. Easy peasy.
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BK2006 wrote:
Dec 24th, 2017 4:32 pm
You have been speculating throughout this whole thread and calling people out. You need to deal with it, respectfully and not sanctimoniously!
Speculation is the name of the game with whodunits. Sorry you are hurt because I don't use flowery enough language in my corrections. I'm not here to pander to people's egos.
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The reason the cops, RFD detective and media care is because they were rich. If they were poor you wouldn't care.
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eonibm wrote:
Dec 25th, 2017 12:06 am
If this thread stresses you out so much I'd suggest you not read it. Easy peasy.
How ironic, typical RFDer, I'm as cool as a cucumber, unlike you, having fits and laughably accusing ppl who disagrees with your silly and erroneous views. I'm pretty sure ppl know who the *real* stressed fanatic is ITT ;)
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tranquility922 wrote:
Dec 25th, 2017 1:49 am
How ironic, typical RFDer, I'm as cool as a cucumber, unlike you, having fits and laughably accusing ppl who disagrees with your silly and erroneous views. I'm pretty sure ppl know who the *real* stressed fanatic is ITT ;)
lol thanks for saying what I was thinking all along....
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BK2006 wrote:
Dec 24th, 2017 4:32 pm
You have been speculating throughout this whole thread and calling people out. You need to deal with it, respectfully and not sanctimoniously!
WTF does sanctimoniously mean?
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gbill2004 wrote:
Dec 25th, 2017 8:07 am
WTF does sanctimoniously mean?
A term used by snowflakes to disparage others.

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