[Merged] Hyundai Promotions and Pricing

[Damed]

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

Pretty crazy.

You could be driving a brand new Sante Fe for $350 a month tax in. My brother saw it and is at the dealer now getting his.

[champdood]

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx - Canada-wide link.

[Damed]

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx - Canada-wide link.

Thanks. Updated the OP

[bilaliz]

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

Pretty crazy.

You could be driving a brand new Sante Fe for $350 a month tax in. My brother saw it and is at the dealer now getting his.

last year they had a crazy accent sport manual for 9999 0 down 0% 60 mo (i think may be even 84, not sure)
now they jacked up 3500 ? thats significant.

[Trifid]

My 2002 Hyundai Sonata was by far the worst car I have EVER owned (and I've owned Fords in the 1980's:facepalm:).

There were/are no after market parts; Brake Rotors were $160 each, paper thin, and couldn't be machined even once. By comparison, at the time Impala Rotors cost $120 and could be machined 3-4 times. Same went for every other part - the best being the O2 sensor that was not in stock in North America and took 6 weeks to come from oversea's... :facepalm::facepalm:

Hyundai's are cheap out the door, but kill you on parts and repairs over the life of the vehicle (which I would say is no more than 5 years).

[IntrepidRT]

last year they had a crazy accent sport manual for 9999 0 down 0% 60 mo (i think may be even 84, not sure)
now they jacked up 3500 ? thats significant.
Actually, it was $9995 and it came with a $3500 gas card on top of that.

[rfcxxx]

My 2002 Hyundai Sonata was by far the worst car I have EVER owned (and I've owned Fords in the 1980's:facepalm:).

There were/are no after market parts; Brake Rotors were $160 each, paper thin, and couldn't be machined even once. By comparison, at the time Impala Rotors cost $120 and could be machined 3-4 times. Same went for every other part - the best being the O2 sensor that was not in stock in North America and took 6 weeks to come from oversea's... :facepalm::facepalm:

Hyundai's are cheap out the door, but kill you on parts and repairs over the life of the vehicle (which I would say is no more than 5 years).

A 2002, likely made in 2001, so you're talking about a 10 year old car. Hyundai's have changed since then. Its like you said, you owned a Ford from the 80's...not a Ford but a Ford from the 80's.

I'd say Hyundai is much improved since then.

[ac803]

Wow...time to take a look at the Sonata turbo

[Petey1013]

Hyundai has improved leaps and bounds over the past 5 years. They're easily one of the best options for the getting the most for your money out right now.

[hopsoid]

Actually, it was $9995 and it came with a $3500 gas card on top of that.

Nope, you couldn't combine the two (http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/alldeals/comments/hyundai_smart_cash_savings_event_3000_esso_gas_gif t_card_when_purchasing_an/). Could have been the greatest car deal ever.

[MikeyP]

Looks like the gas card is only good for 1000L (or 1200L for SUV/CUV). :(

[macalin]

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

Pretty crazy.

You could be driving a brand new Sante Fe for $350 a month tax in. My brother saw it and is at the dealer now getting his.

What trim level/options is that with? Let me know how much he's able to knock off msrp. I'd be very interested in one as well.

[mtl_cheapo]

My 2002 Hyundai Sonata was by far the worst car I have EVER owned (and I've owned Fords in the 1980's:facepalm:).

There were/are no after market parts; Brake Rotors were $160 each, paper thin, and couldn't be machined even once. By comparison, at the time Impala Rotors cost $120 and could be machined 3-4 times. Same went for every other part - the best being the O2 sensor that was not in stock in North America and took 6 weeks to come from oversea's... :facepalm::facepalm:

Hyundai's are cheap out the door, but kill you on parts and repairs over the life of the vehicle (which I would say is no more than 5 years).

maybe the old school hyundais were terrible, but lately, they've been pretty impressive...i've got a 2006 Sonata with 125 000Km on it and very minor problems to date....other than the regular oil changes, i've spent less than $500 on maintenance on it over the last 5 years.... i would highly recommend Hyundai to anyone....i'm in the market for a minivan and am pretty disappointed they don't make the entourage anymore....otherwise, i would buy a hyundai again...

[BD006]

maybe the old school hyundais were terrible, but lately, they've been pretty impressive...i've got a 2006 Sonata with 125 000Km on it and very minor problems to date....other than the regular oil changes, i've spent less than $500 on maintenance on it over the last 5 years.... i would highly recommend Hyundai to anyone....i'm in the market for a minivan and am pretty disappointed they don't make the entourage anymore....otherwise, i would buy a hyundai again...

Aside from it being kinda ugly, why not get a Sedona? Same thing.

[Damed]

Brother got them to add the extra 2 year warranty to bring it to 7 years bumper to bumper

He bought the Santa Fe as spec'd in the ad (2,4L GL manual)

[Damed]

I'd say Hyundai is much improved since then.


I have a 2005 Sante Fe that I bought used in 2009.

I've put 60k on since then and it's been rock solid. No complaints. It's the basis for why my brother chose to buy a new one today.

[Aerius Zension]

84 months? Is any vehicle that is 7 years old worth the same as brand new? You could buy a 7 year old vehicle for a margin of the cost, no matter what the nameplate. 7 years is a LONG time to be tied down to something that depreciates that much. That might be one of the dumbest decisions I've read today, which leads me to believe this is an April's Fool Day joke. Yes, a dealership can offer that long of a lease/buy, but that's a very bad investment. You should never lease/buy a vehicle beyond 4-5 years max, otherwise its not the same vehicle anymore.

Please, don't buy on those terms.

[Damed]

Please, don't buy on those terms.

At 0% financing, you're using THEIR money.

Also, like I said - they extended the warranty to 7 years bumper to bumper for my brother's purchase.

So..

Interest free financing for 7 years which makes monthly payments more affordable
no repairs (other than the regular tires, brakes and consumables)

That's a cheap way to drive a new vehicle. One you regularly may not have been able to afford.

If you take care of it and maintain it, there's no reason you can't get 10 years/250,000km+ out of a brand new car.

[IntrepidRT]

Nope, you couldn't combine the two (http://www.redflagdeals.com/deals/main.php/alldeals/comments/hyundai_smart_cash_savings_event_3000_esso_gas_gif t_card_when_purchasing_an/). Could have been the greatest car deal ever.
Thanks for clearing that up........I wasn't even interested for $6500.......but yes, it would've been an excellent deal.

[plugdat]

84 months? Is any vehicle that is 7 years old worth the same as brand new? You could buy a 7 year old vehicle for a margin of the cost, no matter what the nameplate. 7 years is a LONG time to be tied down to something that depreciates that much. That might be one of the dumbest decisions I've read today, which leads me to believe this is an April's Fool Day joke. Yes, a dealership can offer that long of a lease/buy, but that's a very bad investment. You should never lease/buy a vehicle beyond 4-5 years max, otherwise its not the same vehicle anymore.

Please, don't buy on those terms.

its 0% financing tho.. i'm confused by your response... do you change cars every 3 years?

[Messerschmitt]

its 0% financing tho.. i'm confused by your response... do you change cars every 3 years?

Aerius obviously has no clue what hes talking about. I think he confuses financing a car with paying his apartment rent.

[frankmp]

Thanks for clearing that up........I wasn't even interested for $6500.......but yes, it would've been an excellent deal.

and if I remember correctly the $9995 did'nt include freight of $1300........so nowhere near the $6.5K

[whampoa]

Since the earthquake in Japan, there's a lot of Japanese vehicles and parts shortage.

If you're looking for import, it's not like you have a lot of options right now.

Either Korean or domestic.

[IntrepidRT]

Since the earthquake in Japan, there's a lot of Japanese vehicles and parts shortage.

If you're looking for import, it's not like you have a lot of options right now.

Either Korean or domestic.
Most 'Japanese' vehicles are built in the USA or Canada (just the facts).

[ji2o0k]

If you take care of it and maintain it, there's no reason you can't get 10 years/250,000km+ out of a brand new car.
+2....actually, even if you don't take care of it and maintain it that well, I find most cars will last 10yrs and around 200, 000kms..

Parents bought a brand new 1998 Chevy Malibu...IMO a really bad car with plenty of problems with it....to this day the engine is still going on strong with some maintenance work that has been done over the years but the body looks like crap (rusted in various places)...

So I think a Hyundai would probably be able to last 10yrs easily....just a guess since I don't own one...

Now, will a person be satisfied to drive the same car for 10yrs? Some might not but that is a different discussion.....

[TheHemming]

I currently own two 2010 Elantra Sedans, and both have been quite excellent.

If anyone wants a referral to the Burlington dealer, PM me ... I've worked with one sales guy to buy 4 cars over the last year.

[whampoa]

Most 'Japanese' vehicles are built in the USA or Canada (just the facts).

True, but there are high end vehicle import from Japan, and most implants in North America require parts from Japan for final assembly.

They might still have enough parts for now, but for how long?

If this continue on, a used Japanese car will be worth as much as a new one, if you can find it.

[TripleHelix]

84 months? Is any vehicle that is 7 years old worth the same as brand new? You could buy a 7 year old vehicle for a margin of the cost, no matter what the nameplate. 7 years is a LONG time to be tied down to something that depreciates that much. That might be one of the dumbest decisions I've read today, which leads me to believe this is an April's Fool Day joke. Yes, a dealership can offer that long of a lease/buy, but that's a very bad investment. You should never lease/buy a vehicle beyond 4-5 years max, otherwise its not the same vehicle anymore.

Please, don't buy on those terms.

:facepalm::facepalm:

[tedmonds]

Bought a 2010 Genesis Coupe last summer... top notch.

Highly recommended. Great service too at Alpine in Kitchener/Waterloo

[bluecooldeal]

Freight and Admin fees are included or not? what you're saying from earlier post that he paid around $350/month. That's the final price?

thanks.



Brother got them to add the extra 2 year warranty to bring it to 7 years bumper to bumper

He bought the Santa Fe as spec'd in the ad (2,4L GL manual)

[buyways]

At 0% financing, you're using THEIR money.

Any "admin fee" to set up this 0% financing?

[Damed]

Freight and Admin fees are included or not? what you're saying from earlier post that he paid around $350/month. That's the final price?

thanks.

He told me he was something like $170 every two weeks, all in, on the road.

[toguy]

84 months? Is any vehicle that is 7 years old worth the same as brand new? You could buy a 7 year old vehicle for a margin of the cost, no matter what the nameplate. 7 years is a LONG time to be tied down to something that depreciates that much. That might be one of the dumbest decisions I've read today, which leads me to believe this is an April's Fool Day joke. Yes, a dealership can offer that long of a lease/buy, but that's a very bad investment. You should never lease/buy a vehicle beyond 4-5 years max, otherwise its not the same vehicle anymore.

Please, don't buy on those terms.

You're not paying any more for the privilege of having 7 years to pay it off, so I don't see the problem here. Look at it this way - who else will lend you 25-30K @ 0% for that long? If you can pay off the loan at any time, (i.e. sell the car and/or just pay it off), then you're not really 'tied down', are you? You could argue that you shouldn't buy a new car period, but that is a totally different discussion.

[superdsi]

Had 3 Elantras. No need for extra warranty. A seven year warranty on a vehicle. Why is everyone so warranty happy on RFD?

Just a waste of $.

[antman59]

At 0% it makes sense to do it even if you have the cash on hand.

[Redscott]

Hyundai Canada really need to start having the 2011 Accent with Cash Back on the hood because the upcoming 2012 Accent's hotness is making the 2011 a fugly deal at MSRP.

2011 Accent

http://hyundaicanada.com/content/Accent/showroom/Gallery/Accent_3_LG.jpg



http://hyundaicanada.com/images/misc/Accent%20EN.jpg

[Damed]

At 0% it makes sense to do it even if you have the cash on hand.

True. Even if you just left it sitting in the bank it would make you some cash. Better to use theirs.

[lidakang]

isn't santa fe base manual model $19,999 cash last month? the the road should be under $25k.
84*350 = $29400, doesn't sound hot.

[U4IA]

its 0% financing tho.. i'm confused by your response... do you change cars every 3 years?

Some people do... with the cost of repairs now adays, not everyone wants to be paying for a car and having to pay for repairs. Dealerships can advertise low payments, but your paying for 7 years.... Some people want to stay under warranty always so you're flipping every 3-5 years. Course, deprication is highest in the first 3, so usually 5/6 is when it seems to slow down..

Really, the dealers dont lose either way. 0% and then dont have rebates, or big cash rebate and higher financing. It really depends on your budget and what works best.

[Thanh]

Why would someone want to drive a Santa Fe is simply beyond me but there are good deals these days at Hyundai's dealerships.

[Damed]

isn't santa fe base manual model $19,999 cash last month? the the road should be under $25k.
84*350 = $29400, doesn't sound hot.


23,999 plus fees and taxes.

You're at well over 27k after HST alone.

[lidakang]

23,999 plus fees and taxes.

You're at well over 27k after HST alone.

freight + pdi + air tax + tire tax
should be under $2000
what is the other fees?
i don't think people really pays admin fee

[Damed]

freight + pdi + air tax + tire tax
should be under $2000
what is the other fees?
i don't think people really pays admin fee

23,999 plus HST = 27118.87 + under 2k for the above fees = $29k (which works out).

So doesn't look like an admin fee.

[JWL]

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

Pretty crazy.

You could be driving a brand new Sante Fe for $350 a month tax in. My brother saw it and is at the dealer now getting his.

How many years is that for? I cringe when people get financing for periods like 84 months for a car. 7 years is a long time to be paying for a car.

[projectmoonlightcafe]

How many years is that for? I cringe when people get financing for periods like 84 months for a car. 7 years is a long time to be paying for a car.

Not when the interest rate is 0. You can pay me $1000 now or $100 per year for 10 years. Which would you choose?

[lidakang]

base model with standard was $19,999 last month.

[dro3]

i want accent for 6000 + 3000 GAS CARD

[sassysue]

i bought a 2011 kia rio and love it. the little car is a race car can even go past cop cars at 100km heh :lol::lol: its low and fast go from 0 to 100km under 1 minute and it has the Eco meter on it tells you if your using too much gas!

[ShaTR]

How many years is that for? I cringe when people get financing for periods like 84 months for a car. 7 years is a long time to be paying for a car.

How does that make any sense? Its free money, take it. I cringe at people who pay up front for a car when companies are offering such low interest rates. Hell, at 2.9% your still ahead by a bit.

Put it this way:

30k sitting in the bank for 7 years at a craptastic 2% interest. (you can get more with term deposits but lets take worst case scenario here) would give you about $34500. Or if you put it in ING 3.5% 5 year GIC, and then another 2 years at 2.4%, you're lookin at 37500. That's like getting a 20% discount to use their money!!!!!!

So even if i sell the car after 2 years, i'll keep making payments throughout the 7 years. Doesn't make sense to pay it off if someone is giving you a free loan.

[sassysue]

How does that make any sense? Its free money, take it. I cringe at people who pay up front for a car when companies are offering such low interest rates. Hell, at 2.9% your still ahead by a bit.

Put it this way:

30k sitting in the bank for 7 years at a craptastic 2% interest. (you can get more with term deposits but lets take worst case scenario here) would give you about $34500. Or if you put it in ING 3.5% 5 year GIC, and then another 2 years at 2.4%, you're lookin at 37500. That's like getting a 20% discount to use their money!!!!!!

So even if i sell the car after 2 years, i'll keep making payments throughout the 7 years. Doesn't make sense to pay it off if someone is giving you a free loan.

++ i bought my kia rio like this for 0% i think it came to like 27,000 but i got alot of upgrades fabric guards rust protection 7 year warranty but im using it for my business so i be writing it off so in all words my business will pay for it btw im in the cleaning business

People are so stupid paying cash upfront i will never pay cash upfront for a car im paying rough idea 250 per month no payments till may of this year!


last 2 vehicles i bought cash and where is it now? i sold it sinse the quality sucked north american only thing happened to my kia was 3 days after it left the lot i got a flat! thats all it has around 2,000km atm

[panagoitss]

eats gas like crazy, with snow tires on the v6 2006 santa fe, full tank of gas goes for slightly over 400km

[auto-m8]

My 2002 Hyundai Sonata was by far the worst car I have EVER owned (and I've owned Fords in the 1980's:facepalm:).

There were/are no after market parts; Brake Rotors were $160 each, paper thin, and couldn't be machined even once. By comparison, at the time Impala Rotors cost $120 and could be machined 3-4 times. Same went for every other part - the best being the O2 sensor that was not in stock in North America and took 6 weeks to come from oversea's... :facepalm::facepalm:

Hyundai's are cheap out the door, but kill you on parts and repairs over the life of the vehicle (which I would say is no more than 5 years).

My 2001 Hyundai Elantra went 140,000 kms before I traded it in on a new Sorento and only spent about 2k tops on tires and repairs over the 9-10 years
I had it.

Started up every day and never quit on me.
Not a silk purse, closer to a pig's ear, but easily paid for itself over it's lifetime.

[Damed]

eats gas like crazy, with snow tires on the v6 2006 santa fe, full tank of gas goes for slightly over 400km

I've got the 2.4L 4 cylinder model and I get 650k to a tank

[danfromwaterloo]

eats gas like crazy, with snow tires on the v6 2006 santa fe, full tank of gas goes for slightly over 400km

Get a tuneup.

I've got a V6 AWD 2007, and I get routinely 650-700 per tank.

[Amazing2]

Why would someone want to drive a Santa Fe is simply beyond me but there are good deals these days at Hyundai's dealerships.

Why ??? From what I've read, they seem pretty good. :confused:

[danfromwaterloo]

Why would someone want to drive a Santa Fe is simply beyond me but there are good deals these days at Hyundai's dealerships.

If you want to drive an SUV, the value that the Santa Fe provides is hard to beat.

It's very reliable, we've had no major issues to speak of with it, and it was well within our budget.

Yes, there are better SUVs, but at this price point, no one can come close to Hyundai right now.

[JWL]

How does that make any sense? Its free money, take it. I cringe at people who pay up front for a car when companies are offering such low interest rates. Hell, at 2.9% your still ahead by a bit.

Put it this way:

30k sitting in the bank for 7 years at a craptastic 2% interest. (you can get more with term deposits but lets take worst case scenario here) would give you about $34500. Or if you put it in ING 3.5% 5 year GIC, and then another 2 years at 2.4%, you're lookin at 37500. That's like getting a 20% discount to use their money!!!!!!

So even if i sell the car after 2 years, i'll keep making payments throughout the 7 years. Doesn't make sense to pay it off if someone is giving you a free loan.

The loan is undoubtedly secured by the car so you can't sell the car and leave the loan outstanding.

And guess what happens when you go to sell the car when you have a long term? It is worth a lot less than you have left to pay on the loan, so you have to come up with additional cash to sell your car! It may feel great paying $350 a month to drive a new car now, tell me how it feels to be paying the same $350/month when the car is 7 years old.

I understand the math of interest rates, but there is more involved than that including loan to value and human nature.

[JWL]

Consumer Reports just came out rating the Hyundai Elantra as the #1 small sedan above Nissan Sentra, Subaru Impreza, Toyota Corrolla , Mazda 3, Kia Forte (all those cars still get their recommended check-mark).

Predicted reliability was Very Good.

In their annual car issue they also rated
Sonata as the #2 Sedan - Family entry level behind Nissan Altima
Sonata Limited as the #3 Sedan - Family behind Altima and Accord (above Legacy, Camry Fusion)
Genesis as the #1 Sedan Upscale ahead of Lexus ES, Avalon, Acura TL, Maxima
Santa Fee was #4 midsized SUV behind Highlander hybrid, Kia Sorento, Highlander V6

Thats not all of them, but it is an impressive showing.

[olevia 747i]

It says *save* 30c on a litre not 30c a litre.

Hot deal thou

[kyli]

Why I can not find any minivan from their website?

[wilsonlam97]

APRIL Fools!!

Obviously this is fake.

i have paranoia

[RARE_1]

Hyundai is a great vehicle. I know lots of people (self included) that have owned various models over the last decade and none of them are unhappy with the purchase. I even know a guy with the V8 Genesis and he is in love. He looked at the BMW and MB options and he could get all the same features at half the price.

On the topic of finanacing, here is what you do....

Always take the "free money" and finance for as long as you can. 84 months is wicked.
Take the amount of your total purchase and divide that by 60 months. Bank the difference between the 60 month value and the 84 month payment. Pay off the car at month 60 (there is no early payment fee, they are actually happy when you do that) with your banked cash and use the extra money you made off the interest to buy a tank of fuel or two. If you are smart about the investment it could be even more.

Let's do some quick math based on some numbers above....

$27,000/84 months = $321.43
$27,000/60 months = $450
Difference = $128.57

You put that $128.57 in the bank each month and earn a whopping 1% on it. At the end of 60 months you have $7,906.93.

You pay the balance on the car of 24 months which equals $7,714.32 putting $192.61 in your pocket.

You paid off your car just like you would have if you agreed to a 60 month term yet you have more money in your pocket.

[ShaTR]

The loan is undoubtedly secured by the car so you can't sell the car and leave the loan outstanding.

And guess what happens when you go to sell the car when you have a long term? It is worth a lot less than you have left to pay on the loan, so you have to come up with additional cash to sell your car! It may feel great paying $350 a month to drive a new car now, tell me how it feels to be paying the same $350/month when the car is 7 years old.

I understand the math of interest rates, but there is more involved than that including loan to value and human nature.

Fine, if the loan is secured against the car and hyundai motor finance is unwilling to let you keep it (could probably get them to provided you have good credit), and you want to sell the car in a few years, this isn't the deal for you. But if you want to buy and keep a new car for the long haul, it would be silly not to take the 0%. I'm not saying this is the best deal in the world, i'm saying why say no to free money?

Furthermore, I bought a new accord 9 years ago when i was 20, and i'm still driving it to this day. Just because you wouldn't keep a car that long doesn't mean this deal is not good for others.

Also, you're not paying for the car in 7 years, your paying off your car loan. Doesn't matter how it feels, all that matters is the money. It's not about when you pay, its about how much you pay. TCO being the most important which is why, if money is of utmost importance, you wouldn't be selling this car for a number of years. take he emotions out of it, and buy with your brain. I realize that's a very "business" perspective on it, but I am a businessman after all.

[sixer]

And this is why Hyundai and Kia re-sale suck, why buy used when you can by new with 0% financing, always!

[toguy]

And guess what happens when you go to sell the car when you have a long term? It is worth a lot less than you have left to pay on the loan, so you have to come up with additional cash to sell your car! It may feel great paying $350 a month to drive a new car now, tell me how it feels to be paying the same $350/month when the car is 7 years old.

I understand the math of interest rates, but there is more involved than that including loan to value and human nature.

Most people who want to always drive a new car won't be going for this anyway - they'll stick with their 3-year leases. As long as you don't trash the car and maintain it well, I don't think the difference between remainder of the loan and the value of the car is as much as you think. Suppose I go for this, and I'm paying $350/mo. for 84 months (taking the Sonata as an example). After year 5, after paying $21,000 (60 mths x $350 = $21,000), I decide I'm bored with this and want something new. So I still have $8400 (24 mths x $350) left on the loan. Now I realize depreciation rates and book values for different model years vary, but looking at the Sonata from 5 years ago (2006 model) the average people are asking for is $10K, well above the amount left on the loan.

[93civicin604]

I read through the whole post about interest rates and calculating how much you can make by saving your $30G's in a GIC.

That is a good start to make an informed decision.

If you were to offer to pay cash for the same car, the dealer will be able to lower the price by a few thousand bucks. As in the case with my dad when he got a Sante Fe last month.

The 0% is a marketing tool because really, you are paying for the interest by for-going the cash discount. I financed my car at 0% but when I was at the dealer, the sale person offered to take a few thousand off if I paid cash.

Therefore, if you want to make a calculated decision and you have the cash. Figure out what you can get by investing it over 84 months and compare that to the amount of cash discount you can get.

The arguement about not "feeling" good about paying for a 7 year old car is about phycology, not financial planning. This is RedFlagDeals, not RedFlagFeelsgoodtobuy. :P

[sassysue]

btw here is my car http://www.distrocar.com/2011-kia-rio-110-hp-hands-free-bluetooth%C2%AE1-wireless-technology

kia hyundai is all the same company really

[champdood]

A bit of a hard choice going on in my head, the financing on the elantra isn't that great, however it's a far better looking car than the elantra touring and comes with better features (stock elantra L has ABS, stability control, etc. Need to move up to the GLS in the Touring to get those features at about $4k more). But the hatch is what I'd prefer.

Might hold off for a hatch refresh, I imagine it has to come sooner rather than later to keep the two models in sync.

[careh]

I thought the whole idea for getting the best deal on a vehicle was to buy a 3-4 year old car - that has very good used car ratings for dependability - and has at that point incurred the most depreciation - then maintain it properly and drive it until someone rear ends you or it craps out.


I am at 280,000 km on a year 2000 Toyota I bought in 2004 at 105,000 km

I (hope) to get to 500,000 km on it before I part with it.

[fizikz]

I read through the whole post about interest rates and calculating how much you can make by saving your $30G's in a GIC.

That is a good start to make an informed decision.

If you were to offer to pay cash for the same car, the dealer will be able to lower the price by a few thousand bucks. As in the case with my dad when he got a Sante Fe last month.

The 0% is a marketing tool because really, you are paying for the interest by for-going the cash discount. I financed my car at 0% but when I was at the dealer, the sale person offered to take a few thousand off if I paid cash.

Therefore, if you want to make a calculated decision and you have the cash. Figure out what you can get by investing it over 84 months and compare that to the amount of cash discount you can get.

The arguement about not "feeling" good about paying for a 7 year old car is about phycology, not financial planning. This is RedFlagDeals, not RedFlagFeelsgoodtobuy. :P

My thoughts exactly. There is no such thing as 0% interest. Those interested should calculate the interest they are charging for the financing by taking the cash discount amount as the interest paid on the "0%" financing option.

[peelhic]

Hyundai had better financing rates in March than they do this month. The Sonata 2.0T was at 0% financing for up to 84 months last month. This month they have jacked up the financing on it, 60 month is still 0% though.

[ShaTR]

I read through the whole post about interest rates and calculating how much you can make by saving your $30G's in a GIC.

That is a good start to make an informed decision.

If you were to offer to pay cash for the same car, the dealer will be able to lower the price by a few thousand bucks. As in the case with my dad when he got a Sante Fe last month.

The 0% is a marketing tool because really, you are paying for the interest by for-going the cash discount. I financed my car at 0% but when I was at the dealer, the sale person offered to take a few thousand off if I paid cash.

Therefore, if you want to make a calculated decision and you have the cash. Figure out what you can get by investing it over 84 months and compare that to the amount of cash discount you can get.

The arguement about not "feeling" good about paying for a 7 year old car is about phycology, not financial planning. This is RedFlagDeals, not RedFlagFeelsgoodtobuy. :P


My thoughts exactly. There is no such thing as 0% interest. Those interested should calculate the interest they are charging for the financing by taking the cash discount amount as the interest paid on the "0%" financing option.

100% agree. This is typically true, and my family has used this technique in the past. However, over the course of 7 years, the small amount of interest can add up to a lot. As i pointed out earlier, $7500 over 7 years on 30k wasn't unreasonable. And an Auto santa-fe after tax's and an upgrade or 2 would cost about that. I doubt they would cut the price by 7500, which makes 0% in this case, quite attractive.

Anyways, as this is a regular sort of thing from Hyundai, i'll step back from this thread. But if anyone gets any additional discounts, cash incentives, or other freebies, please do post. :)

[panagoitss]

Get a tuneup.

I've got a V6 AWD 2007, and I get routinely 650-700 per tank.

on snow tires too? depends on where u live too right?
i live up on the mountain so everyday needs to go down hill and up hill

[kmchow]

Most 'Japanese' vehicles are built in the USA or Canada (just the facts).
While they maybe built in Canada, many still use some parts sourced from Japan so even 5% of delayed parts are holding up 100% of the cars from leaving the factory.

[Thanh]

A bit of a hard choice going on in my head, the financing on the elantra isn't that great, however it's a far better looking car than the elantra touring and comes with better features (stock elantra L has ABS, stability control, etc. Need to move up to the GLS in the Touring to get those features at about $4k more). But the hatch is what I'd prefer.

Might hold off for a hatch refresh, I imagine it has to come sooner rather than later to keep the two models in sync.

The wagon style of the current Elantra Touring will not be renewed as they're moving toward a 5-doors hatch style à la Mazda 3.

[Konowl]

Was excited for a second until reality kicked in and realized the Elantra (non-touring) wasn't included. Should have known! Damn.

[SonnyWood]

I've been looking at the Santa Fe and the KIA Sorento. I think the KIA looks better, has more options, same platform and drive train. Some of the options, push button start, rear sonar, auto lights and 7 seat option are not available on the Santa Fe. To get 18" wheels you need to get at least the Sport below. Too bad it's not 0% but I think I'm going with the KIA anyway, maybe with a shorter term.

KIA Sorento
LX V6 AWD
35,871 Delivery, Destination and Taxes
84mths @ 2.90%
$472.37
-$1250 cash back and 90 days no payment

Hyundai Santa Fe
GL Sport V6 AWD
39,755.10 Delivery, Destination and Taxes
84mths @ 0%
$473.27
.30 liter gas til 2012

Hyundai Santa Fe
GL V6 AWD
37,156.10 Delivery, Destination and Taxes
84mths @ 0%
$442.33
.30 liter gas til 2012

[The Great Raj!]

23,999 plus HST = 27118.87 + under 2k for the above fees = $29k (which works out).

So doesn't look like an admin fee.

Incorrect.

Like he said, they did have it for 19,999 last month.

You said you it was 170$ bi-weekly so lets do the calculation.

$170 / 2 = $85 per week
85$ x 52.17 (number of weeks in a year) = $4434
$4434.45 x 7 years = $31041
$31041 - $300 (gas savings value in total) = $30,741

---

Now if your brother had bought it last month, it would be have been something like this:

$19,999 + 1565 x HST = $24,367


Your brother should go back and cancel the deal, even if he has to pay pentalty fees. Dealers always have a way of making offers look attractive.

[Carzzz]

Honestly...
If a buyer plan to fianance the accent for 84 months, I would say it's better he/she should take the public transit.

[AirCanada2000]

Just saw the 2012 Accent, looks better than the current generation. I hope its priced well.

[Blitzo]

I have a 2003 Tiburon SE manual. It has 160k on it and runs better than ever. The engine over time has worked in and has more punch than when I drove it off the lot 8 years ago. The major things I had to replace over the years were the alternator, battery, brakes and clutch spinwheel (I bought rotors and pads from a company that sells OEM cross-drilled rotors and ceramic brakes in Markham for $280 front and back pairs... labor was $90 at my local repair shop).

Never buy from the dealer if your warranty is up. E-bay is your friend for car parts.

This is the best car I have ever owned. Built like a tank and never fails me. I'll probably be driving this thing for at least 3 more years.

[Bedboi]

Honestly...
If a buyer plan to fianance the accent for 84 months, I would say it's better he/she should take the public transit.

honestly...
i have no idea why most of these people with comments like this doesnt get the concept of borrowing money for free of interest.

what is there not to get? i dont get it!!! isnt the whole purpose is to borrow money and not get dinged from interest? so why is it
so hard for people to understand that this is a good deal.

there were more characters like this but i was too lazy to go back and find them all.

i'd be all over this deal for the tucsan if it wasnt so small inside. hopefully its cousin the sportage will have this kind of deal soon.

[Boodie]

honestly...
i have no idea why most of these people with comments like this doesnt get the concept of borrowing money for free of interest.

what is there not to get? i dont get it!!! isnt the whole purpose is to borrow money and not get dinged from interest? so why is it
so hard for people to understand that this is a good deal.

there were more characters like this but i was too lazy to go back and find them all.

i'd be all over this deal for the tucsan if it wasnt so small inside. hopefully its cousin the sportage will have this kind of deal soon.


You dont get it because poster is talking about making payments for 7years. Its not about interest free deals which are great. Its about somebody having to finance over a extremely long term so that the payments are low enough that they can afford to make the payments. you would be better to ride the bus for 2 yrs and save for a down payment.

I agree completely and if you cant pay off the vehicle in 5yrs don't buy it or look at getting one that's 2yrs old.

now if Hyundai would offer a 10yr warranty like they do in the united states. I would consider buying in Canada.

[cyc1120]

You dont get it because poster is talking about making payments for 7years. Its not about interest free deals which are great. Its about somebody having to finance over a extremely long term so that the payments are low enough that they can afford to make the payments. you would be better to ride the bus for 2 yrs and save for a down payment.

I agree completely and if you cant pay off the vehicle in 5yrs don't buy it or look at getting one that's 2yrs old.

now if Hyundai would offer a 10yr warranty like they do in the united states. I would consider buying in Canada.

Save a down payment for what? To lower the interest costs? Or to have a lower monthly payment?
Both of these issues is dealt with by financing for 84 months at 0% interest rate.

[Bedboi]

You dont get it because poster is talking about making payments for 7years. Its not about interest free deals which are great. Its about somebody having to finance over a extremely long term so that the payments are low enough that they can afford to make the payments. you would be better to ride the bus for 2 yrs and save for a down payment.

I agree completely and if you cant pay off the vehicle in 5yrs don't buy it or look at getting one that's 2yrs old.

now if Hyundai would offer a 10yr warranty like they do in the united states. I would consider buying in Canada.

HUH? HUH? you cant be serious!
why would you want to save for a down payment if it isnt a requirement in the first place?

why would you want to pay off the car in 5yrs when you have the extra time to pay it off without getting hit from interests?

i could have 100k lining around somewhere and would still be using this 84mnths interest free period to pay off the car. why wouldnt i?

i have no idea what the concept of "if you cant pay off a car in 5yrs then you shouldnt be buying a car"

why would you want to pay $700 - $800 a month for 5yrs when you can do $400 - $500 a month for 7yrs or 10yrs without getting hit at the interest?

need i say more? in the end, you pay the samething but the longer the term (without interest) the more easier it is on your pocket.

now im back to the concept where you people dont understand. :facepalm:

[krd67]

I've been looking at the Santa Fe and the KIA Sorento. I think the KIA looks better, has more options, same platform and drive train. Some of the options, push button start, rear sonar, auto lights and 7 seat option are not available on the Santa Fe. To get 18" wheels you need to get at least the Sport below. Too bad it's not 0% but I think I'm going with the KIA anyway, maybe with a shorter term.

KIA Sorento
LX V6 AWD
35,871 Delivery, Destination and Taxes
84mths @ 2.90%
$472.37
-$1250 cash back and 90 days no payment

Hyundai Santa Fe
GL Sport V6 AWD
39,755.10 Delivery, Destination and Taxes
84mths @ 0%


$473.27
.30 liter gas til 2012

Hyundai Santa Fe
GL V6 AWD
37,156.10 Delivery, Destination and Taxes
84mths @ 0%
$442.33
.30 liter gas til 2012



Had a Sorento as a rental in Orlando 2 mths ago. I would recommend it! Especially with the "shiftronic"(?) I played with it in the a.m.s getting coffee minus family:) We bought the very first in 2003 and owned for 4 yrs and zero probs. Only thing was it was a tank and not great mileage. Newer ones are smaller although no issues with 2 kids seats,2 adults and luggage for 2 week stay

[hpad06]

KIA Sorento had 0% financing last month, so maybe they will come back in the next month or 2

from consumer reports, they say Sorento rides too hard, do you feel it?

[projectmoonlightcafe]

now im back to the concept where you people dont understand. :facepalm:

LOL! I'm thinking some people don't have a basic grasp of the time value of money. Either that or people just dont want to be bothered with having a cash outflow for so long, even though it would be the same if u threw a chunk of cash to your savings account and just had Hyundai make a Pre-authorized withdrawal every month.

[Sinoed]

why would you want to pay $700 - $800 a month for 5yrs when you can do $400 - $500 a month for 7yrs or 10yrs without getting hit at the interest?

Hyundai's tend to have a low resale value. Spreading your payments out over seven years to make it affordable is good in theory since you get to drive a new car you otherwise wouldn't be able to afford. Great in the first few years of ownership. However you might end up still owing more than the car is worth after five or six years. If for some reason the car _does_ break down or have serious mechanical failure (which is more likely with an older vehicle) you're in big trouble. You'll be stuck still owing a few thousand dollars on car that isn't worth anything at all.

By spreading payments the car becomes affordable at the increasing risk of major repairs as the car ages that you will be forced to do if you still owe money on the car. This is why 0% financing for such a long time frame is great from a dealer point of view.

FWIW, the discussion about borrowing free money is kind of pointless.. anyone jumping on this deal because they can't otherwise afford a car isn't likely to have a ton of money left around to be saving the difference anyways..

[Soda Popinski]

HUH? HUH? you cant be serious!
why would you want to save for a down payment if it isnt a requirement in the first place?

why would you want to pay off the car in 5yrs when you have the extra time to pay it off without getting hit from interests?



It looks like you'll be paying less if you pay for it on the spot.

2011 Accent L Sport 3 Door
$13,599

or

$83/bi-weekly for 84 months.

There are 364 weeks in 84 months so you'll be on the hook for 182 payments of $83. That works out to $15,106.

[162]

It looks like you'll be paying less if you pay for it on the spot.

2011 Accent L Sport 3 Door
$13,599

or

$83/bi-weekly for 84 months.

There are 364 weeks in 84 months so you'll be on the hook for 182 payments of $83. That works out to $15,106.

And if you took the $13,599 and invested with a return of 7.5% your payments are 0.

[f117]

By spreading payments the car becomes affordable at the increasing risk of major repairs as the car ages that you will be forced to do if you still owe money on the car. This is why 0% financing for such a long time frame is great from a dealer point of view.

You need to service or repair at the dealer when financing from Hyundai?

[Sinoed]

You need to service or repair at the dealer when financing from Hyundai?

Nope.. it's just psycological warfare. ;) Once you own your car you can take it wherever you want for servicing but not everyone is comfortable driving their wheels into Canadian Tire to let a high school tire tech perform basic services. By making you feel good about your purchase and giving you a *deal* they hope you drive right to them instead - for repairs both large and small, whenever they happen.

[Damed]

You need to service or repair at the dealer when financing from Hyundai?

No, especially if the warranty is over.

Like I said earlier, it's kind of a moot point when you can get the 7 year extended warranty thrown in.

[Lukus]

Get a tuneup.

I've got a V6 AWD 2007, and I get routinely 650-700 per tank.

One word... Bullsh*t!

I just borrowed my brother's 2008 Santa Fe (V6) to go on a 8-hour trip. Had the snow tires on but pavement was bare and dry all the way. Cruise control set to 109 km/h. Range indicated when I filled it up showed 480 km and I did slightly less than that before needing to re-fuel. This was all highway driving. My boss and a buddy of mine both own Santa Fe's. My boss is a 2008 and he too has terrible fuel consumption on snow tires... slightly better on all-seasons. My buddy, who's always owned SUV's or Mini-Vans, thinks his Santa Fe is pretty good on gas. I tend to think his opinion is skewed since he's never owned a sedan and therefore, doesn't really know what good gas mileage is.

I personally own a 2009 Sonata. It does great mileage on the highway... 800 km on a 67 liter tank (same trip as I did with the Santa Fe BTW). However, I have terrible city mileage... averaging between 12 and 15L per 100 km... regardless if running on all-seasons or winter tires. I took it in for an oil change just yesterday and complained once more but again, they say the computer is not showing anything wrong.

So my opinion on Hyundai vehicles is that they are very well built. Everyone I know who owns them loves them. Do be warned that the fuel consumption rating advertized (especially the city rating) is misleading. While many factors influence your actual fuel consumption, nothing explains being 50% above the posted fuel rating.

[bluecooldeal]

I just test drove the Sonata GL. Very nice car, Also tested the Tucson GL. I find the Sonata have smoother acceleration and less noise also picking up speed from 100-120 is better than on the Tucson. They both cost about the same price. The guy at the dealership told me $360/month for 84 months for the Sonata and $370/month for the Tucson for 84 months. You get better value on the Sonata IMHO.

[danfromwaterloo]

One word... Bullsh*t!

I just borrowed my brother's 2008 Santa Fe (V6) to go on a 8-hour trip. Had the snow tires on but pavement was bare and dry all the way. Cruise control set to 109 km/h. Range indicated when I filled it up showed 480 km and I did slightly less than that before needing to re-fuel. This was all highway driving. My boss and a buddy of mine both own Santa Fe's. My boss is a 2008 and he too has terrible fuel consumption on snow tires... slightly better on all-seasons. My buddy, who's always owned SUV's or Mini-Vans, thinks his Santa Fe is pretty good on gas. I tend to think his opinion is skewed since he's never owned a sedan and therefore, doesn't really know what good gas mileage is.

I personally own a 2009 Sonata. It does great mileage on the highway... 800 km on a 67 liter tank (same trip as I did with the Santa Fe BTW). However, I have terrible city mileage... averaging between 12 and 15L per 100 km... regardless if running on all-seasons or winter tires. I took it in for an oil change just yesterday and complained once more but again, they say the computer is not showing anything wrong.

So my opinion on Hyundai vehicles is that they are very well built. Everyone I know who owns them loves them. Do be warned that the fuel consumption rating advertized (especially the city rating) is misleading. While many factors influence your actual fuel consumption, nothing explains being 50% above the posted fuel rating.

My Santa Fe is listed as a 75 L tank. Its also listed at 11.2 L / 100km. I have found these numbers to be somewhat accurate. Keep in mind we live in the country, so our milage will be better than most.

[hank hill]

Get a tuneup.

I've got a V6 AWD 2007, and I get routinely 650-700 per tank.


I had the V6 as a rental for a couple of weeks, brand new . It sucked far far more gas of my 2003 scape V6. It is larger than an escape. And if you can overlook the gas mileage, its pretty refined IMO, and the price is right. Somebody was ragging on it earlier and I don't know why, its a decent looking suv with good features and interior . I don't know about the 4 cylinder though.

[hank hill]

Anybody have any input on the 4 cylinder?

[Rehan]

It looks like you'll be paying less if you pay for it on the spot.

2011 Accent L Sport 3 Door
$13,599

or

$83/bi-weekly for 84 months.

There are 364 weeks in 84 months so you'll be on the hook for 182 payments of $83. That works out to $15,106. Read the fine print. $83/biweekly includes "Delivery and Destination" (Freight), while the $13599 does not.

Hyundai doesn't currently have a discount for cash purchases, so there won't be any difference whether you pay it fully in cash or take the 0% financing for 84 months.

[TheHemming]

Anybody have any input on the 4 cylinder?

Which model of car with the 4 cylinder? I've got a 2010 Elantra, and the 4cyl produces just enough hp (138 I think). For anyone that has this generation of car, never EVER turn off the "eco mode". I drive pure city and with eco mode off, I lose ~100 kms per tank. It's not as peppy with the eco mode on, but the L/km difference is just too significant.

[geotuna]

Brother got them to add the extra 2 year warranty to bring it to 7 years bumper to bumper

He bought the Santa Fe as spec'd in the ad (2,4L GL manual)

Which dealership did he get it from? So they just added 2 years of additional warranty for free? Any other free upgrades can be done? What's the final on the road price?

Thanks.

[projectmoonlightcafe]

Just came back from the dealership...they also have a 0% 60/84 months...sort of like lease for 5 years and then decide...wasn't 100% sure what the sales was saying...she was new and wasn't extremely good with English. Got quoted for a Santa Fe 2.4 AWD premium for $430...and 3.5 sport AWD for $480

[Shampoo.kr]

Damn!
I was waiting for a deal like this!

I was looking at the Genesis Coupe 2.0T. :(

Too bad I'm moving into a new place that's closer to work, but costs 300 more a month! :(

That could've been the car! :(

[Madrid2k]

My 2002 Hyundai Sonata was by far the worst car I have EVER owned (and I've owned Fords in the 1980's:facepalm:).

There were/are no after market parts; Brake Rotors were $160 each, paper thin, and couldn't be machined even once. By comparison, at the time Impala Rotors cost $120 and could be machined 3-4 times. Same went for every other part - the best being the O2 sensor that was not in stock in North America and took 6 weeks to come from oversea's... :facepalm::facepalm:

Hyundai's are cheap out the door, but kill you on parts and repairs over the life of the vehicle (which I would say is no more than 5 years).


I've been a Honda man for nearly 20 years now - CRX, Prelude, Accord, Integra and a Pilot. I've never had a problem with any of them. That's why I am unflinchingly loyal to the big 'H'.

However, I will concede that over the past 4 - 5 years, Hyundai has narrowed the quality gap with Honda and Toyota. While it's still not quite on par, I think that it will continue to steadily improve the fit, finish and quality of its products until the quality gap is negligible. In terms of design, Hyundai has already eclipsed its Japanese rivals.

Based on its new design philosophy, improved quality, competitive pricing and very attractive purchase incentives, I would consider purchasing a Hyundai the next time around.

While I remain a Honda die-hard, I actually have recommended Hyundai to some friends and family based on their respective needs and budgets. In fact, I helped negotiate and close these deals for them at the dealership. They got a huge discount from MSRP, and coupled with the amazing finance rates, they walked away with killer deals.

I was dealing directly with the sales manager at Sisley Hyundai. Unfortunately, I think he left for another opportunity. However, I still have a really good contact there. PM me if you want his contact information.

[Rehan]

Just came back from the dealership...they also have a 0% 60/84 months...sort of like lease for 5 years and then decide...wasn't 100% sure what the sales was saying...she was new and wasn't extremely good with English. http://hyundaicanada.com/Pages/buildprice/Disclaimer/futurevalue_EN.html


What is Future Value Financing?

Future Value Financing is a great alternative to a traditional purchase financing or leasing. With the Future Value Financing option, you get to take advantage of a lower monthly payment and have the advantage of owning your vehicle with no kilometers restrictions just like traditional purchase finance.


How does Future Value Financing Work?

You purchase the vehicle and finance it using a Future Value Financing contract through a financial institution. The term of your finance contract is 60 months (5 years) but it is amortized over 84 months (7 years). This allows you to have a lower monthly payment. Your payment schedule is structured using a consecutive monthly payment for the 60 months (5 years) and a balloon payment at the end of your contract (which is the amount remaining on the loan). At the end of the contract term, you have 3 options for paying the balloon payment:

- Refinance the outstanding balancing owing
- Purchase the vehicle by paying the outstanding balance
- Trade the vehicle in towards the lease or purchase of a new Hyundai vehicle With the 0% rate for 84 months, I don't see much reason to bother with FVF.

[VTECMAN]

I'm waiting for the Tucson to be 0 down, 84 month.. Once that happens, I'm in..

[rks]

I'm waiting for the Tucson to be 0 down, 84 month.. Once that happens, I'm in..

Tucson has this offer. I am waiting for the Elantra and then i am in!!!

[brunes]

84 months? Is any vehicle that is 7 years old worth the same as brand new? You could buy a 7 year old vehicle for a margin of the cost, no matter what the nameplate. 7 years is a LONG time to be tied down to something that depreciates that much. That might be one of the dumbest decisions I've read today, which leads me to believe this is an April's Fool Day joke. Yes, a dealership can offer that long of a lease/buy, but that's a very bad investment. You should never lease/buy a vehicle beyond 4-5 years max, otherwise its not the same vehicle anymore.

Please, don't buy on those terms.

Er, this is not a lease, it is financing, at 0%. You can sell at any time. Just because your term is 84 months doesn't mean you have to keep it 84 months.

Not taking 0% financing for as long as humanly possible is stupid.

[brunes]

With the 0% rate for 84 months, I don't see much reason to bother with FVF.

No it doesn't make sense.

I did FVF for my Tucson 5 years back. It's almost up now and I still owe about 9 grand on it, which I now have to figure out what I want to do (sell it, keep it and re-finance, what). I won't do FVF again.

[VTECMAN]

Tucson has this offer. I am waiting for the Elantra and then i am in!!!

Tucson is at 72 months, not 84. Once its 84, I'm in.

[dnyc]

I'm looking at getting the elantra GLS model. Looking at theire website, A/C doesn't come standard? Looking at the accessory section it looks like it's an add on for $1400. Can anyone confirm this. Maybe just an add on for the base models?

[mcmoser]

I'm looking at getting the elantra GLS model. Looking at theire website, A/C doesn't come standard? Looking at the accessory section it looks like it's an add on for $1400. Can anyone confirm this. Maybe just an add on for the base models?

A/C is standard starting with the GL model. The GLS model would have it included.



ELANTRA GLS 6 Speed Manual

Performance Features
1.8L Dual CVVT DOHC 16V Engine
6-Speed Manual Transmission
4-Wheel Disc Brakes

Safety Features
Advanced Front Airbags, Front Seat-Mounted Side Airbags and Roof Mounted Curtain Airbags (6)
Anti-Lock Brake System (ABS) and Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD)
Vehicle Stability Management (VSM), Electronic Stability Control (ESC) with Traction Control System (TCS)
Keyless Entry and Alarm System

Interior Features
AM/FM/XM®/CD/MP3 Player with 6 speakers
Air Conditioning
Power Windows with Driver's Auto Down
iPOD®/USB/Auxiliary input jacks
Trip Computer
Driver's Seat Height Adjuster
Rear Seat Centre Armrest with Cupholders
Power Door Locks
Cruise Control
Centre Console with Storage compartment and Armrest
Heated Front Seats
Steering Wheel Audio Remote Control
Bluetooth® Hands-free Phone System
Telescopic Steering Wheel
Leather-wrapped Steering wheel / TGS Knob
Heated Rear Seats

Exterior Features
16” Alloy Wheels
Glass Antenna
Tinted Glass
Dual Heated Power Exterior Mirrors
Fog Lights
Roof-mounted XM® Antenna
Power Sunroof

[nuropa]

I'm looking at getting the elantra GLS model. Looking at theire website, A/C doesn't come standard? Looking at the accessory section it looks like it's an add on for $1400. Can anyone confirm this. Maybe just an add on for the base models?

yes it come with AC. Elantra in Canada doesn't have add-ons or packages, you pick the trim level and that's it. the only other things you can buy are the accessories.

[dreaderus]

simiarly equiped sonata or the genesis? the genesis coup looks pretty hot

[melmobarrie]

what are the odds they would give us the gas card deal??

[ShaTR]

Wow, this interest debate is still goin on in this thread lol. Funny to see how many RFD'ers are actually so, to quote a phrase, penny wise, pound foolish.

[Keigotw]

Why I can not find any minivan from their website?

Hyundai discontinues Entourage minivan
"By Andrew Ganz Thursday, Apr 9th, 2009 @ 10:20 a.m. Facing ever-slipping sales, Hyundai has officially pulled the plug on its Entourage minivan. Already a rare sight on North American roads, Hyundai managed to sell just 5,400 buyers last year, a 67 percent drop-off from 2008. The Entourage was introduced in 2007. "
http://www.leftlanenews.com/hyundai-entourage.html

look @ Kia Sedona deal

http://kia.ca/pages/specialoffer/Promotions.aspx?gclid=CKHX-vSQgqgCFYjsKgodm3lHsg

[archer23]

what is limited comprehensive warranty

this is what they offer

op said that he got 7 yrs bumper to bumper; to me this means i dont pay sweet f all in 7 yrs except of course oil change and tires and air filters and light bulbs , but all the rest should be covered am I right? is there a difference between what op bumper to bumper said and limited comprehensive warranty that is what is standard on huyundai website

[lordsoth]

In March I was going to buy the Elantra Touring GL model, and they were offering 0% financing or $2000 back.

This month, I see that they are advertising the Elantra Touring L model with the 0%, however no mention of the cash price (but im sure it is still there).

I am going to buy the GL trim level since I want the Air-conditioning, and I want the same deal as last month, as we are only talking trim level, otherwise its going to make my AC cost over $4000.

If they won't honor the deal just because the trim level is different (L vs GL) then I am walking. I imagine the GL has the same deal, but it is hidden.

Anybody had any luck on buying the GL trim of the Elantra Touring in April and getting the 0% or $2000 off ?

[lhsonic]

new.. hyundais... so.. nice *drools*

[buyways]

Hyundai doesn't currently have a discount for cash purchases, so there won't be any difference whether you pay it fully in cash or take the 0% financing for 84 months.

Assuming you cannot negotiate with the dealer for a below-sticker cash price. I'd be surprised if you could not find a dealer who would give you a bigger cash price discount off the sticker price than the couple hundred bucks you can earn in interest from banking the sticker price and paying out of that (shrinking) account over 84 months. E.g., when we bought our Hyundai, there was a similar no-interest deal on. We negotiated for a price well under sticker, cash up front.

[lordsoth]

Assuming you cannot negotiate with the dealer for a below-sticker cash price. I'd be surprised if you could not find a dealer who would give you a bigger cash price discount off the sticker price than the couple hundred bucks you can earn in interest from banking the sticker price and paying out of that (shrinking) account over 84 months. E.g., when we bought our Hyundai, there was a similar no-interest deal on. We negotiated for a price well under sticker, cash up front.

Thanks, getting a cash price when their is 0% financing, should be easy, as the car company is eating the difference between prime and 0% for 7 years.

However my problem, is that the 0% finaincing is only on the Elantra Touring with the L trim level, not the GL trim level which has air. I never heard of a car company offer a discount on one trim level but not the other on the same identical car, but this appears to be the case from the advertising.

Unfortunately those websites that give dealer invoice and incentive info, has not updated the Hyundai for April.

I guess I will have to wait a few days, and see what the hidden incentives are. The other option is to buy the L series, and have Hyundai add the air conditioning as a factory add, but I really don't want to go their.

[caltran]

what is limited comprehensive warranty

this is what they offer

op said that he got 7 yrs bumper to bumper; to me this means i dont pay sweet f all in 7 yrs except of course oil change and tires and air filters and light bulbs , but all the rest should be covered am I right? is there a difference between what op bumper to bumper said and limited comprehensive warranty that is what is standard on huyundai website
You need to read what they give you at the dealership, apparently Canadians usually have a worse warranty than what they offer in the US, and in previous years the warranty would have lots of exclusions as the car got older.

[Captain Snazzypants]

84 months? Is any vehicle that is 7 years old worth the same as brand new? You could buy a 7 year old vehicle for a margin of the cost, no matter what the nameplate. 7 years is a LONG time to be tied down to something that depreciates that much. That might be one of the dumbest decisions I've read today...

Took the words right out of my mouth. You do realize that a 7-year old car won't be nearly as nice (in most cases) as the newest models? Your argument makes absolutely no sense without specific context. If the 2006 model of a particular car was one of its best ever, then you would be smart to pay a fraction of the cost of the latest model to buy one in good shape. That, however, is rarely if ever the case...

[buyways]

Thanks, getting a cash price when their is 0% financing, should be easy, as the car company is eating the difference between prime and 0% for 7 years.

However my problem, is that the 0% finaincing is only on the Elantra Touring with the L trim level, not the GL trim level which has air. I never heard of a car company offer a discount on one trim level but not the other on the same identical car, but this appears to be the case from the advertising.

Unfortunately those websites that give dealer invoice and incentive info, has not updated the Hyundai for April.

I guess I will have to wait a few days, and see what the hidden incentives are. The other option is to buy the L series, and have Hyundai add the air conditioning as a factory add, but I really don't want to go their.

I sort of bypassed all the manufacturer offers - the technique I used was to email all my local dealers asking them for their lowest cash price for the model I wanted, using a disposable email address. I gave the dealership where I took a test drive the chance to match the lowest price. I also got a CarCost report so I knew what a reasonable bottom-line ('dealer cost') price would be. We ended up paying that cost; a couple of dealerships offered prices a couple hundred bucks above the CC dealer cost price, which was IIR ~$1500 below sticker.

[616Nickel]

Thanks, getting a cash price when their is 0% financing, should be easy, as the car company is eating the difference between prime and 0% for 7 years.

However my problem, is that the 0% finaincing is only on the Elantra Touring with the L trim level, not the GL trim level which has air. I never heard of a car company offer a discount on one trim level but not the other on the same identical car, but this appears to be the case from the advertising.

Unfortunately those websites that give dealer invoice and incentive info, has not updated the Hyundai for April.

I guess I will have to wait a few days, and see what the hidden incentives are. The other option is to buy the L series, and have Hyundai add the air conditioning as a factory add, but I really don't want to go their.

I believe the offer is valid for all trim levels, not just the L. If you use the Build and Price tool on the Hyundai website for the GL or GLS trim, and go all the way through to the summary page, it still provides you with the 0%/84-month option. You'd have to double-check with a dealer and verify that the gas card is also included, but I think they just call out one specific trim level so that people won't be misled by the prices on the advertisement.

[616Nickel]

So I've been wondering:

- Margins on Hyundais tend to be very low, as is common knowledge.
- Hyundai is currently offering very generous incentives for new-car buyers.

This would seem to imply that Hyundai has its customers over a barrel, as far as bargaining is concerned. True?

I mean, if I decide to take Hyundai up on their free-money 0%/84-month offer, does that mean that they will refuse to bend on price, and that I'm more or less stuck with paying sticker prices? Or can I still negotiate based on invoice price and/or throwing in accessories?

Keep in mind that I'm based in a one-dealer town, so I'd have to try to play Hyundai off other brands (Kia, Mazda, etc.).

[buyways]

So I've been wondering:

- Margins on Hyundais tend to be very low, as is common knowledge.
- Hyundai is currently offering very generous incentives for new-car buyers.

This would seem to imply that Hyundai has its customers over a barrel, as far as bargaining is concerned. True?

I mean, if I decide to take Hyundai up on their free-money 0%/84-month offer, does that mean that they will refuse to bend on price, and that I'm more or less stuck with paying sticker prices? Or can I still negotiate based on invoice price and/or throwing in accessories?

Keep in mind that I'm based in a one-dealer town, so I'd have to try to play Hyundai off other brands (Kia, Mazda, etc.).

I think you'll have to try and see. Have you considered shopping out of town, or at least saying that you will?

[napoleon1769]

When is the best time to get a car?

[lidakang]

August, November and December


When is the best time to get a car?

[Spidey]

You dont get it because poster is talking about making payments for 7years. Its not about interest free deals which are great. Its about somebody having to finance over a extremely long term so that the payments are low enough that they can afford to make the payments. you would be better to ride the bus for 2 yrs and save for a down payment.

I agree completely and if you cant pay off the vehicle in 5yrs don't buy it or look at getting one that's 2yrs old.

now if Hyundai would offer a 10yr warranty like they do in the united states. I would consider buying in Canada.

I know people that have the money to buy it outright, and dont. They take the total money and put it into an account that gains interest, and actually make money off it. So at the end of the term they made money off the deal, because they used the 0% first.

[Redscott]

I know people that have the money to buy it outright, and dont. They take the total money and put it into an account that gains interest, and actually make money off it. So at the end of the term they made money off the deal, because they used the 0% first.


You never make money when the dealer rapes you $1500 for Transport and Preparation. Collusion plain and simple across Canadian Dealers.

[Spidey]

You never make money when the dealer rapes you $1500 for Transport and Preparation. Collusion plain and simple across Canadian Dealers.

But if you buy it cash or credit, you get that charge anyway

[richyrich]

Could be tempted into updating my 2007 Santa Fe except the current one seems to have lost two seats??? Guess it's so you have to go for the (rather ugly?) Veracruz? Pity.

[616Nickel]

I think you'll have to try and see. Have you considered shopping out of town, or at least saying that you will?

Yeah, I'm in Vancouver a lot right now, and I know there's at least one Hyundai dealer close by (Port Coquitlam), so I can probably play that card. If I did buy from a Vancouver dealer, would I be obligated to go to them for warranty service, or would any Hyundai dealer do?

[tkl]

Could be tempted into updating my 2007 Santa Fe except the current one seems to have lost two seats??? Guess it's so you have to go for the (rather ugly?) Veracruz? Pity.

I was thinking the same but the Veracruz will prob be dropped soon. The newer Santa Fe has dropped the 7 seaters.

[buyways]

I know people that have the money to buy it outright, and dont. They take the total money and put it into an account that gains interest, and actually make money off it. So at the end of the term they made money off the deal, because they used the 0% first.

Only if the MSRP (sticker price) is really the lowest available price, or you can get zero percent financing at the lowest (negotiated below sticker) price the dealer will accept for cash. Poster above calculated you could make a couple hundred bucks in interest from putting the purchase price in the bank (recall the interest you'll earn monthly will shrink with the principal as you pay the finance company over the 84 months), less than what IMO you should be able to negotiate off the sticker price with cash in hand.

[buyways]

Yeah, I'm in Vancouver a lot right now, and I know there's at least one Hyundai dealer close by (Port Coquitlam), so I can probably play that card. If I did buy from a Vancouver dealer, would I be obligated to go to them for warranty service, or would any Hyundai dealer do?

I'm pretty sure you can go to any dealership because any of them will be reimbursed by the manufacturer for work done under warranty, but you should email Hyundai (corporate) be sure.

[deal_king]

It looks like you'll be paying less if you pay for it on the spot.

2011 Accent L Sport 3 Door
$13,599

or

$83/bi-weekly for 84 months.

There are 364 weeks in 84 months so you'll be on the hook for 182 payments of $83. That works out to $15,106.

What ad are you looking at? The ad I see shows the 2011 Accent L 3 DR for $15,109 with purchase financing over 84 months. The tiny print shows that the monthly payment is $179.97. Where are you getting this "biweekly" thing from?

[buyways]

What ad are you looking at? The ad I see shows the 2011 Accent L 3 DR for $15,109 with purchase financing over 84 months. The tiny print shows that the monthly payment is $179.97. Where are you getting this "biweekly" thing from?

The fine print in the ad posted at the top of this thread says "Financing example: 2011 Accent L 3 DR for $15,094 at 0% per annum equals $82.83 bi-weekly for 84 months[etc]".

Mind you, it also says that the total cost under financing is the same as the [MSRP] cash price, and that there is no cost to financing.

I still say you can probably find a dealer willing to accept a lower-than-MSRP price for cash.

[deal_king]

The fine print in the ad posted at the top of this thread says "Financing example: 2011 Accent L 3 DR for $15,094 at 0% per annum equals $82.83 bi-weekly for 84 months[etc]".

Mind you, it also says that the total cost under financing is the same as the [MSRP] cash price, and that there is no cost to financing.

I still say you can probably find a dealer willing to accept a lower-than-MSRP price for cash.


Actually I remember seeing it before, but now I can't see it anymore. I think it has changed to monthly. I don't see mention of the $13599 offer though.

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

[frostiex]

Just went to a dealer in calgary Crowfoot.

I was looking at the Elantra Touring L and the GL model.

They quoted with everything in:

L: $250/mo (Website: $214~)
GL: $275/mo (Website: $236~)

When I questioned about the deal from Hyundai Canada Website. He mentioned it doesn't include Taxes and fees, block heater and a slew of fess that I have no idea what they are...
My question is what are your guy's experience? I am looking to replace my Focus Wagon which was hit and run and this seems to be a reasonable replacement.

[buyways]

Just went to a dealer in calgary Crowfoot.

I was looking at the Elantra Touring L and the GL model.

They quoted with everything in:

L: $250/mo (Website: $214~)
GL: $275/mo (Website: $236~)

When I questioned about the deal from Hyundai Canada Website. He mentioned it doesn't include Taxes and fees, block heater and a slew of fess that I have no idea what they are...

The Hyundai web site lets you price vehicles with all taxes and fees imposed by the manufacturer and government (except maybe the vehicle registration) included - everything else (block heater, glass etching (I think that's an AB thing, I never heard that one from ON dealers) etc) is dealer-imposed and therefore negotiable and/or BS.

They do like to confuse things, don't they. Email negotiations are so much cleaner.

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/buildprice/step1_models.aspx
(check the "show with taxes" button on the final pricing page)

[kcotoulas]

We got our 2009 Santa Fe with one of Hyundai's 0% sales. First off the car is great, decent gas mileage for a larger SUV.
When we bought it there was a discount to go with the 0%. Got a CC Report and added $500 to the invoice price

Thread was here http://forums.redflagdeals.com/09-hyundai-discount-0-financing-687497/

This was what I got in 2009

Just bought a Santa Fe 3.3L GLS FWD

MSRP $31045
Invoice Price $28859
Hyundai Discount $3000

Price $25859
Markup 500
Freight 1760
AC Tax 100
Gas Tax & Omvic 80

Total $28299 plus 13% taxes

OTD Price of $31978

So you can definitely haggle on this price even with these 0% deals. We were also originally quoted an admin fee and a vehicle etching fee but didn't pay for it in the end. Price probably have changed since then but hopefully this gives you an idea of the type of savings you can received. We also didn't do very much haggling to get the invoice price instead of the MSRP price. We were just prepared to walk into 10 different dealerships if we needed to. The first dealership ended up giving us our price.

[frostiex]

The Hyundai web site lets you price vehicles with all taxes and fees imposed by the manufacturer and government (except maybe the vehicle registration) included - everything else (block heater, glass etching (I think that's an AB thing, I never heard that one from ON dealers) etc) is dealer-imposed and therefore negotiable and/or BS.

They do like to confuse things, don't they. Email negotiations are so much cleaner.

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/buildprice/step1_models.aspx
(check the "show with taxes" button on the final pricing page)

Yes, it was so confusing. Its almost as if they were trying to make is more complicated to get me to sign...lol

ANything else I should do or say to get a deal out of them?

[Pauly Boy]

Just went to a dealer in calgary Crowfoot.

I was looking at the Elantra Touring L and the GL model.

They quoted with everything in:

L: $250/mo (Website: $214~)
GL: $275/mo (Website: $236~)

When I questioned about the deal from Hyundai Canada Website. He mentioned it doesn't include Taxes and fees, block heater and a slew of fess that I have no idea what they are...
My question is what are your guy's experience? I am looking to replace my Focus Wagon which was hit and run and this seems to be a reasonable replacement.

Same crap here in Lethbridge - I thought what the hell, I'll stop by after work since me & the misses were looking at replacing our aging Saturn with something roomier like the Sante Fe...

First, if you haul out your magnifying glass you can see that in the fine print taxes are not included - I checked beforehand so I at least knew about that $1k+ "extra". Also, those are base, base models with manual trannys qutoed - So, if you want convenience, tack on $3000 to the final price again.

Second, the block heater, glass etching BS, & of course other dealer accessories are not included in the monthly/bi-weeky payment price on the flyer. I thought it was quite funny that the guy tried to tell me that the mud-flaps, hood visor & other 300% mark-up crap were standard installed for them. :facepalm:

[Pauly Boy]

Yes, it was so confusing. Its almost as if they were trying to make is more complicated to get me to sign...lol

ANything else I should do or say to get a deal out of them?

I can't see them budging on the price unless you have cash in hand & are buying it outright. Sometimes they might give you a break if you buy their inventory models so they don't have to source one for you (had that happen once @ Mazda - If I took the fugly silver one they would knock an extra $1000 off the price). You can sometimes wrangle up something like accessories installed for free, but on the small margin cars, it's kinda meh.

Depending how good you are at holding your ground - Print off the website pricing (with taxes) & go in + demand that you want that price without the extra "frills". Outside of the block heater, I can't see any of the other items being needed...

[polypep]

If anyone has access to CCC reports can they pull one for any of the following:
Elantra Sedan GL Automatic
Sonata GL Automatic
Tucson GL

I think these are the ones or will be the ones in high demand

[Boodie]

HUH? HUH? you cant be serious!
why would you want to save for a down payment if it isnt a requirement in the first place?

why would you want to pay off the car in 5yrs when you have the extra time to pay it off without getting hit from interests?

i could have 100k lining around somewhere and would still be using this 84mnths interest free period to pay off the car. why wouldnt i?

i have no idea what the concept of "if you cant pay off a car in 5yrs then you shouldnt be buying a car"

why would you want to pay $700 - $800 a month for 5yrs when you can do $400 - $500 a month for 7yrs or 10yrs without getting hit at the interest?

need i say more? in the end, you pay the samething but the longer the term (without interest) the more easier it is on your pocket.

now im back to the concept where you people dont understand. :facepalm:

equity / resale value / pay it off while its still worth something.

If you realize you cant afford the car after 2yrs your going to owe more than what you can sell it for. goodluck finding someone to take over the payments
no warranty after 5 yrs and you have major repairs to do... no thanks

[nuropa]

Just went to a dealer in calgary Crowfoot.

I was looking at the Elantra Touring L and the GL model.

They quoted with everything in:

L: $250/mo (Website: $214~)
GL: $275/mo (Website: $236~)

When I questioned about the deal from Hyundai Canada Website. He mentioned it doesn't include Taxes and fees, block heater and a slew of fess that I have no idea what they are...
My question is what are your guy's experience? I am looking to replace my Focus Wagon which was hit and run and this seems to be a reasonable replacement.


don't bother with monthly cost, they can manipulate that number like no tomorrow. negotiate only the total cost. keep in mind that admin, document fee, and whatever other fee they come up with are pure dealer profit, tell them you are not paying for them. once you got total cost down, then talk financing, downpayment.

get invoice cost from this forum, CCC or APA. apa.ca simplifies things since they offer pre-negotiated price so that give you a decent deal without any hassle.

[buyways]

don't bother with monthly cost, they can manipulate that number like no tomorrow. negotiate only the total cost. keep in mind that admin, document fee, and whatever other fee they come up with are pure dealer profit, tell them you are not paying for them. once you got total cost down, then talk financing, downpayment.

get invoice cost from this forum, CCC or APA. apa.ca simplifies things since they offer pre-negotiated price so that give you a decent deal without any hassle.

+1

[lhsonic]

After reading through a bit of this thread, I don't understand why people are against 7 year financing if it's at 0%.. You're essentially beating inflation and instead of paying interest, you earn it. That ~$350 you pay 7 years down the road is worth less than the $350 you pay now.

For those that have cash-on-hand, if you can negotiate similar pricing, why would you literally throw $20,000+ at the dealership? Sure, if you look at it that you'll be paying ~$350 a month for a 7 year old car, it seems crappy, but if you look at it holistically, you're still paying off that same $20,000 you never finished paying off.

If you keep $20,000 in a TFSA instead and earn 2% interest, that's roughly $400 you earn a year. That's enough for one car payment a year. If you keep throwing money into your TFSA and keep it hovering around $20,000 (which shouldn't be difficult if you already have friggin 20k sitting there), that's $2800 earned through interest for your car payments.

If you just throw $20k at the dealership, you're out $20k. In the event of an emergency where you may need a large sum of money quick, you'll wish you had that $20k still sitting there.

If you're recently out of school or just starting your career in general, you're probably working an entry level job at the moment. If you think that you can afford this car over 7 years, and have some kind of job stability, this is great as well, because who wouldn't like a large principal sum sitting in their bank accounts? Plus, things change in 5 years time, you'll probably have moved up in your career and be making, maybe 50% or more, maybe double what you earn now, who knows. You could also get laid off, but if you're smart with your money and you can manage it well, continuing to make your payments should be manageable and you can pull from the principal you initially had saved for the car.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

[bingo_jake]

After reading through a bit of this thread, I don't understand why people are against 7 year financing if it's at 0%.. You're essentially beating inflation and instead of paying interest, you earn it. That ~$350 you pay 7 years down the road is worth less than the $350 you pay now.

For those that have cash-on-hand, if you can negotiate similar pricing, why would you literally throw $20,000+ at the dealership? Sure, if you look at it that you'll be paying ~$350 a month for a 7 year old car, it seems crappy, but if you look at it holistically, you're still paying off that same $20,000 you never finished paying off.

If you keep $20,000 in a TFSA instead and earn 2% interest, that's roughly $400 you earn a year. That's enough for one car payment a year. If you keep throwing money into your TFSA and keep it hovering around $20,000 (which shouldn't be difficult if you already have friggin 20k sitting there), that's $2800 earned through interest for your car payments.

If you just throw $20k at the dealership, you're out $20k. In the event of an emergency where you may need a large sum of money quick, you'll wish you had that $20k still sitting there.

If you're recently out of school or just starting your career in general, you're probably working an entry level job at the moment. If you think that you can afford this car over 7 years, and have some kind of job stability, this is great as well, because who wouldn't like a large principal sum sitting in their bank accounts? Plus, things change in 5 years time, you'll probably have moved up in your career and be making, maybe 50% or more, maybe double what you earn now, who knows. You could also get laid off, but if you're smart with your money and you can manage it well, continuing to make your payments should be manageable and you can pull from the principal you initially had saved for the car.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

+1
and just to add to what you mentioned, resale value or your satisfaction of the car after 2 years or 5 years or 7 years has nothing to do with your payment terms whether you buy it cash or financing. ofcourse the resale value drops more in the first year or 2 than 5th year regardless of what make or model you buy or how you pay for your car..

You may argue about a particular make or model but please do not mix it up with the payment terms. if you decide on a particular make and model then decision on whether paying up front cash or taking manufacturer financing offer is a simple math...

[deal_king]

After reading through a bit of this thread, I don't understand why people are against 7 year financing if it's at 0%.. You're essentially beating inflation and instead of paying interest, you earn it. That ~$350 you pay 7 years down the road is worth less than the $350 you pay now.

For those that have cash-on-hand, if you can negotiate similar pricing, why would you literally throw $20,000+ at the dealership? Sure, if you look at it that you'll be paying ~$350 a month for a 7 year old car, it seems crappy, but if you look at it holistically, you're still paying off that same $20,000 you never finished paying off.

If you keep $20,000 in a TFSA instead and earn 2% interest, that's roughly $400 you earn a year. That's enough for one car payment a year. If you keep throwing money into your TFSA and keep it hovering around $20,000 (which shouldn't be difficult if you already have friggin 20k sitting there), that's $2800 earned through interest for your car payments.

If you just throw $20k at the dealership, you're out $20k. In the event of an emergency where you may need a large sum of money quick, you'll wish you had that $20k still sitting there.

If you're recently out of school or just starting your career in general, you're probably working an entry level job at the moment. If you think that you can afford this car over 7 years, and have some kind of job stability, this is great as well, because who wouldn't like a large principal sum sitting in their bank accounts? Plus, things change in 5 years time, you'll probably have moved up in your career and be making, maybe 50% or more, maybe double what you earn now, who knows. You could also get laid off, but if you're smart with your money and you can manage it well, continuing to make your payments should be manageable and you can pull from the principal you initially had saved for the car.

Anyway, just my 2 cents.

I don't think they are talking about financing at 0% versus paying cash upfront. They must be talking about financing at 0% versus paying a cash-discounted price. There has to be a benefit of paying cash and the only benefit possible is if the dealer offers a discount if you pay cash.

Your reasoning is accurate. Anyone here who advocates paying cash at the retail price instead of taking 0% for 84 months is seriously lacking in financial skills.

[frostiex]

don't bother with monthly cost, they can manipulate that number like no tomorrow. negotiate only the total cost. keep in mind that admin, document fee, and whatever other fee they come up with are pure dealer profit, tell them you are not paying for them. once you got total cost down, then talk financing, downpayment.

get invoice cost from this forum, CCC or APA. apa.ca simplifies things since they offer pre-negotiated price so that give you a decent deal without any hassle.

i understand what your are saying, but @ 0% financing. Does it matter if it is the monthly payment vs the Total cost?

[romm2002a]

Ah Nuts..... I just bought a brand new 2011 Santa Fe Sport last week.
0% financing was not an option a week ago. Gas card was not an option either.

What are the chances that the dealer would renegotiate or at least offer me the gas card?

[actuarial]

Just went to a dealer in calgary Crowfoot.

I was looking at the Elantra Touring L and the GL model.

They quoted with everything in:

L: $250/mo (Website: $214~)
GL: $275/mo (Website: $236~)

When I questioned about the deal from Hyundai Canada Website. He mentioned it doesn't include Taxes and fees, block heater and a slew of fess that I have no idea what they are...
My question is what are your guy's experience? I am looking to replace my Focus Wagon which was hit and run and this seems to be a reasonable replacement.

Use the 'build and price' on the website. That includes delivery, and you can check a box to include tax. Those are the ONLY mandatory fees. The other fees are garbage. I just got a Sonata (end of March, so no gas card). Website price, fully loaded, over six years says $513 (including tax), I'm paying $503 (less an amount for my trade-in but that's not comparable). Not a huge discount, but a decent one. I had to fight a LOT to get them to budget on the ridiculous $599 admin cost (includes etching, blah blah blah).

[buyways]

If you keep $20,000 in a TFSA instead and earn 2% interest, that's roughly $400 you earn a year. That's enough for one car payment a year. If you keep throwing money into your TFSA and keep it hovering around $20,000 (which shouldn't be difficult if you already have friggin 20k sitting there), that's $2800 earned through interest for your car payments.

You won't earn $400 a year from the $20K for the whole time because you're paying out of - shrinking - that account to make car payments, so as time goes on the income you make from interest decreases. In fact, you'll earn $400/12 in the first month and a decreasing amount from then on. If you want to know what you can earn in interest from banking the purchase price (adding to that amount doesn't change what you're earning from that $20K), take that into account - I think it means roughly half of what you calculate above.


If you just throw $20k at the dealership, you're out $20k. In the event of an emergency where you may need a large sum of money quick, you'll wish you had that $20k still sitting there.
You could also open a LOC now to use in case of emergency, though yes you would have to pay interest on that if you withdrew from it.

Another factor no considered is how financing affects your credit - in the short term, it might (I'm no expert on this) hurt your score, e.g. if you're getting or renewing a mortgage in the next few years, you might be able to get a lower mortgage rate if you don't have an outstanding car loan - again, not sure on this, and in long run would probably help assuming you make all payments on time.

[U4IA]

don't bother with monthly cost, they can manipulate that number like no tomorrow. negotiate only the total cost. keep in mind that admin, document fee, and whatever other fee they come up with are pure dealer profit, tell them you are not paying for them. once you got total cost down, then talk financing, downpayment.

get invoice cost from this forum, CCC or APA. apa.ca simplifies things since they offer pre-negotiated price so that give you a decent deal without any hassle.

!00% agree with that...

We purchased new vehicles 2 years ago and did the car cost canada route... Its the best source of pricing I could find, and the dealer can't really hide anything if you said I want to pay this amount +3% (or whatever you agree on).

It had been about 6 years from our last purchase, but almost ever dealer tried to work the deals on monthly payments. (Seemed worse than our last new car experience) LIke the other poster said, that number can be whatever they want to get you the sale, and they can manipulate the numbers so much its impossible to follow... plus after they beat you down for several hours you're tired and just want to sign and get the heck outta there!

[ddp]

Has Hyundai ever done cash rebate plus 0% for 60/72/84 months on sonata, I think they did it on accent last year. I am semi looking and would jump if that offer ever came out on the sonata. Kinda hoping they put an extra $1000-$2000 on it (I know I am asking for a lot)

Has anyone purchased one? If so can you let me know the trim and how much is cost out the door? I am kinda creeping around the new car market (always have gone used), if I can get a nice car at a good price. But in no rush and no real timeline.

[TheHemming]

Has Hyundai ever done cash rebate plus 0% for 60/72/84 months on sonata, I think they did it on accent last year. I am semi looking and would jump if that offer ever came out on the sonata. Kinda hoping they put an extra $1000-$2000 on it (I know I am asking for a lot)

Has anyone purchased one? If so can you let me know the trim and how much is cost out the door? I am kinda creeping around the new car market (always have gone used), if I can get a nice car at a good price. But in no rush and no real timeline.

There have been a number of promotions over the last year.

I got a 2010 Elantra L about a year ago, and that was 0%/60m ... if I went with the GL model it would have been 1.9%. My wife got a 2010 Elantra GLS 6 months ago and that was 0%/84m on top of cash purchase price. (it's also the 4th car this sales persons had sold from me and referrals).

Hyundai is very specific about what APR offers are available per Car and Trim Level. The only way to know this exactly is to go to a dealer and talk about the car you want.

[rnakra]

I have question for you finance savy people with respect to the 0% offer. My friend is looking to buy the sonata gls and is willing to put upto 10K down on it. If she can afford the higher payments per month - isnt it smarter to put the money into a tfsa and pay of lets say the final year of the car with the interest she earned (free money) instead of putting the 10K down up front. Am i looking at this the wrong way?

Thanks for the help

[BBucKK]

Does anyone have some recent pricing on the Santa Fe (outside of what is on the website). I have been to two dealerships and they won't give me any hard numbers as they know I am shopping around. Even got the "we will only give you a price if you will buy tonight?"

Tough to get a sense of how to play dealerships off against each other if they wont give you numbers. I want the 0% for 84 so I know there will be limited room to move, however, I need to know what room there is. I am looking at the 3.5 GL AWD - not the sport or limited. Anyones recent pricing on the Santa Fe will help me get an idea of where to be.

Thanks
BBucKK

[projectmoonlightcafe]

Does anyone have some recent pricing on the Santa Fe (outside of what is on the website). I have been to two dealerships and they won't give me any hard numbers as they know I am shopping around. Even got the "we will only give you a price if you will buy tonight?"

Tough to get a sense of how to play dealerships off against each other if they wont give you numbers. I want the 0% for 84 so I know there will be limited room to move, however, I need to know what room there is. I am looking at the 3.5 GL AWD - not the sport or limited. Anyones recent pricing on the Santa Fe will help me get an idea of where to be.

Thanks
BBucKK

I did, a couple of pages ago

[hpad06]

don't bother with monthly cost, they can manipulate that number like no tomorrow. negotiate only the total cost. keep in mind that admin, document fee, and whatever other fee they come up with are pure dealer profit, tell them you are not paying for them. once you got total cost down, then talk financing, downpayment.

get invoice cost from this forum, CCC or APA. apa.ca simplifies things since they offer pre-negotiated price so that give you a decent deal without any hassle.

a general question, once you negotiate the total cost, how do you calculate the monthly payment on finance or lease . I can't trust the numbers from the sales guy. If it's 0% , then it's easy, just divided by the total month, what if it is not 0% , is there such a tool available ?

[616Nickel]

a general question, once you negotiate the total cost, how do you calculate the monthly payment on finance or lease . I can't trust the numbers from the sales guy. If it's 0% , then it's easy, just divided by the total month, what if it is not 0% , is there such a tool available ?

You're looking for a pretty simple loan calculator, available at every bank's website and many other places. Just enter the total cost (Principal), the payment schedule (monthly, biweekly, weekly, etc.), the term, and the interest rate. That should give you your payment amount.

[alpha-que]

hmmm gen coupe is tempting... especially with 0/72...

anyone interested in a group buy? LOL :cheesygri

[mrhappy002]

I did, a couple of pages ago

And???

[blurtonia]

While this promotion seems amazing, I heard the best time to buy (other than end of year) is when the 2012's come out.

So, what kind of promotions will usually be available when the 2012's come out? Is it possible to figure out what promotions were available when the 2011's came out? What kind of price discounts on 2011's would generally be available when the 2012's come out?

[a2vr6]

Anyone negotiate near dealer cost on the Gen Coupe 2.0t? Looking at the base, here is what i have at carcost canada:

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $24,899.00 $23,427.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
(-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals:$26,564.00 $25,092.00

[mrmccowcow]

Anyone negotiate near dealer cost on the Gen Coupe 2.0t? Looking at the base, here is what i have at carcost canada:

Retail Price * Wholesale Price **
Base $24,899.00 $23,427.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
(-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals:$26,564.00 $25,092.00

Yes, I bought one for $300 over invoice last year. You probably got the report from gencoupe.com right? I'm the OP there.


I have question for you finance savy people with respect to the 0% offer. My friend is looking to buy the sonata gls and is willing to put upto 10K down on it. If she can afford the higher payments per month - isnt it smarter to put the money into a tfsa and pay of lets say the final year of the car with the interest she earned (free money) instead of putting the 10K down up front. Am i looking at this the wrong way?

Thanks for the help

You've got it right. It's stupid to put any money down when you have 0% financing. You get more return for your money by just putting it in a TFSA. One thing I would consider is if there was a cash discount on the car. Depending on the cash discount, it may be cheaper (it is most of the time) to buy the cash with cash and take the cash discount. You can actually finance through the dealer at a bank (RBC) at a rate of 3.79% up to 72 months.


While this promotion seems amazing, I heard the best time to buy (other than end of year) is when the 2012's come out.

So, what kind of promotions will usually be available when the 2012's come out? Is it possible to figure out what promotions were available when the 2011's came out? What kind of price discounts on 2011's would generally be available when the 2012's come out?

Going from what I remember last year, the incentives may be slightly better (very marginal) as you get closer to the 2012 models coming out. However keep in mind that as you get closer to the launch of the 2012 models, there will be fewer 2011 models. ie. 2010 gen coupe models sold out last year basically by september

[bobbings]

So tempted on the Gen Coupe Turbocharged. I think I will go test drive it and see if it's really that great. I see a lot on the road and it's a good price. I just hope the built is even better than the pricing.

[mplsv]

I have question for you finance savy people with respect to the 0% offer. My friend is looking to buy the sonata gls and is willing to put upto 10K down on it. If she can afford the higher payments per month - isnt it smarter to put the money into a tfsa and pay of lets say the final year of the car with the interest she earned (free money) instead of putting the 10K down up front. Am i looking at this the wrong way?

Thanks for the help

It's ALWAYS "smarter" to take advantage of free money the automaker is giving you with 0% financing, instead of dropping a significant down payment ... with the understanding that you are "smart" enough to invest most of the money owed in something that will return a tidy sum.

Free money is free money.

[mplsv]

While this promotion seems amazing, I heard the best time to buy (other than end of year) is when the 2012's come out.

So, what kind of promotions will usually be available when the 2012's come out? Is it possible to figure out what promotions were available when the 2011's came out? What kind of price discounts on 2011's would generally be available when the 2012's come out?

You'll get better deals at the model year-end but you'll have a new car that's depreciated in value since it's technically a year old.

[coriolis]

Anyone know if the 2011 2.0T will have the Navi at all?

[a2vr6]

Yes, I bought one for $300 over invoice last year. You probably got the report from gencoupe.com right? I'm the OP there.



You've got it right. It's stupid to put any money down when you have 0% financing. You get more return for your money by just putting it in a TFSA. One thing I would consider is if there was a cash discount on the car. Depending on the cash discount, it may be cheaper (it is most of the time) to buy the cash with cash and take the cash discount. You can actually finance through the dealer at a bank (RBC) at a rate of 3.79% up to 72 months.



Going from what I remember last year, the incentives may be slightly better (very marginal) as you get closer to the 2012 models coming out. However keep in mind that as you get closer to the launch of the 2012 models, there will be fewer 2011 models. ie. 2010 gen coupe models sold out last year basically by september

I may have missed your post, I have a membership on carcost canada so this is the most recent info. Were there any other fee's besides the $300? Which dealership?

[mrmccowcow]

I may have missed your post, I have a membership on carcost canada so this is the most recent info. Were there any other fee's besides the $300? Which dealership?

No other fees except for the ones required (OMVIC, gas and tire tax, licensing).

http://www.gencoupe.com/northwest-territories/49435-info-2011-car-cost-canada-reports.html

I update that thread with incentives every month.

[mrmccowcow]

Anyone know if the 2011 2.0T will have the Navi at all?

Genesis coupe? No models for the 2.0t has a navi. You can always retrofit a navi if you want (uNavi or tomtom, Magellan). These retrofits are actually very clean and look oem. No wires have to be spliced either.

Here are a few examples:

http://www.gencoupe.com/australia/54610-diy-budget-dash-gps-lcd-re-locator-install.html
http://www.gencoupe.com/poweraxel/39074-unavi-general-discussion-thread.html

[sexyblackbmw]

How's the Gen Coupe in the winter?

Normally I drive RWD Bmw's and Porsche throughout the winter and never have issues. Just wondering how well the lighter weight Gen coupes do?

Stability and traction work well together? or better to turn it off in this car?

I'm looking to buy one for my sister's graduation present.

Thanks

[joelones]

Like a lot threads here at RFD, this one is no different and chock full of great info. Thanks guys!

I have been eyeing the 2011 elantra sedan and will not hesitate to pull the trigger if this baby is offered at 0%/84 months come late summer despite having the cash to buy it outright. What are the chances that this is the case? So 2012s are typically release during what month?

As a newbie to new cars, I was wondering what's the standard warranty when financing and how much wiggle room there is to negotiated a seven year warranty? And what is typically standard?

As a relative ignorant when it comes purchasing cars and to be clear:

Settle on final price, never monthly payments, then think about financing
Walk in with carcostcanada wholesale price and add 3-5%, negotiate from there
Choose 0% over lump sum when deciding how to pay for it
Expected/hidden fees include: OMVIC (probably something similar here in Quebec), gas and tire tax, and licensing. Roughly how much is this expected to be? Any other fees here? Transportation/preparation?


Any other important things to remember before going into a dealership that I must know?

[Aerius Zension]

See you all in 7 years when you're still paying the same car payments for your vehicle. I'm very interested to see consumer satisfaction after that period, because most people I know and most surveys I've read state otherwise.

#Provemewrong

[gucci17]

See you all in 7 years when you're still paying the same car payments for your vehicle. I'm very interested to see consumer satisfaction after that period, because most people I know and most surveys I've read state otherwise.

#Provemewrong

lol @ another ignorant response....

Not everyone will keep the car for 7 years...sure they'll take a loss on depreciation but the car you buy could be a point 'A' to point 'B' vehicle for someone fresh out of school and starting a new job. Then maybe after a few years they sell the car and upgrade to something else.

Everyone has their reasons

[ml2bin]

So anyone actually jump on the deal so far?

I'm tempted with the Sonata GL. I'd be all over the Elantra if they offered the same 0% promotion for that line, but too bad that's N/A.

[616Nickel]

See you all in 7 years when you're still paying the same car payments for your vehicle. I'm very interested to see consumer satisfaction after that period, because most people I know and most surveys I've read state otherwise.

#Provemewrong

I'm having trouble understanding this argument. Cars are depreciating assets no matter how you pay for them, and presumably my consumer satisfaction with the car would be unaffected by the financing method. Surely what matters is the total amount you pay, and the longer term works to the buyer's advantage in the event of inflation ($300 today is likely worth a lot more than $300 seven years from now).

Put it this way: A $25,000 loan will cost me the following amounts:

- At 0%/84 -> $297/month, interest cost zero (the current Hyundai free-money offer).
- At 0%/60 -> $416/month, interest cost zero.
- At 0.9%/60 -> $426/month, interest cost $575 (common dealer financing rate)
- At 2.9%/60 -> $448/month, interest cost $1,886 (another common dealer financing rate)
- At 5%/60 -> $472/month, interest cost $3,306 (this is what my bank currently offers for their Clean Air Auto Loan, Prime + 2%)

Now, in order for my bank financing to be viable here, we'd have to bargain around $3,000 off the purchase price to compensate for the higher interest, and even then I'd be taking a much larger chunk out of each month's budget to make the loan payments--money that I could have put in a GIC or high-interest savings account during the term of the loan (and this is by far the smartest way to proceed, as others have argued).

Am I missing something here, or is this just an aesthetic distaste for longer-term loans?

[mrmccowcow]

How's the Gen Coupe in the winter?

Normally I drive RWD Bmw's and Porsche throughout the winter and never have issues. Just wondering how well the lighter weight Gen coupes do?

Stability and traction work well together? or better to turn it off in this car?

I'm looking to buy one for my sister's graduation present.

Thanks

No problems with the car in the winter. Just make sure you buy winter tires. If you're already moving there's no need to turn tcs off. You may need to turn tcs off if starting from a standstill depending on how much snow there is on the ground. The car actually isn't that light (around 1400kg).

[almagic]

why wouldn't you take the 0%. that's free money. Instead if paying $25k cash out of my pocket, take the 0% and I'll invest the $20k for 12 months. If after 5 years I feel that i deserve an upgrade, I'll negotiate a new deal then. I'm sure in 5 yrs time this thread will still be going with the latest hyundai deal. :confused:

[marcXcore]

I'm having trouble understanding this argument. Cars are depreciating assets no matter how you pay for them, and presumably my consumer satisfaction with the car would be unaffected by the financing method. Surely what matters is the total amount you pay, and the longer term works to the buyer's advantage in the event of inflation ($300 today is likely worth a lot more than $300 seven years from now).

Put it this way: A $25,000 loan will cost me the following amounts:

- At 0%/84 -> $297/month, interest cost zero (the current Hyundai free-money offer).
- At 0%/60 -> $416/month, interest cost zero.
- At 0.9%/60 -> $426/month, interest cost $575 (common dealer financing rate)
- At 2.9%/60 -> $448/month, interest cost $1,886 (another common dealer financing rate)
- At 5%/60 -> $472/month, interest cost $3,306 (this is what my bank currently offers for their Clean Air Auto Loan, Prime + 2%)

Now, in order for my bank financing to be viable here, we'd have to bargain around $3,000 off the purchase price to compensate for the higher interest, and even then I'd be taking a much larger chunk out of each month's budget to make the loan payments--money that I could have put in a GIC or high-interest savings account during the term of the loan (and this is by far the smartest way to proceed, as others have argued).

Am I missing something here, or is this just an aesthetic distaste for longer-term loans?

It's really unfortunate that people like this have to waste their time trying to understand why some members on this board just don't get why this is a good deal for most people.

616Nickel, it's a simple distaste for longer term loans. Nothing more.
This is practically the same discussion people have regarding 3 year phone contracts.
To me, signing another 3 year contract for my cellphone is no big deal. Maybe if I was 13 with no steady income, with a hunger for the latest and greatest in phone technology. Thankfully, I'm not. Signing a contract gets me incentives with the company and lowers my phone's price, which works for me. I know I'll be able to keep up with the monthly payments and if I'm satisfied with their service thus far, why not continue our relationship? Certain members on RFD will argue until they're blue why I shouldn't be doing this. Why? Because they say contracts are for suckers and I can buy the phone outright.

As you can tell, they make a pretty compelling argument.
It's best to leave well enough alone and just accept the fact that not everyone will agree that something is a terrific deal for one person, and a rip-off to someone else.

[616Nickel]

Another way to look at this is to use the Bank of Canada inflation calculator (http://www.bankofcanada.ca/en/rates/inflation_calc.html).

Imagine you took out a 0% loan at $300/month for 84 months, starting in Feb-2004 and ending Feb-2011.

Over that time, the average annual rate of inflation was 1.9%, or about 14% overall. Another way to describe the inflation rate is as the amount by which the value of money has declined over a given period. Due to inflation, your last $300 payment was equivalent to about $260 in 2004 dollars.

So how does this work for loans going forward from today? Assuming that inflation continues at a positive rate over the next 7 years, and assuming that your wages will at least keep pace with inflation (God willing), your monthly payment on a 0% loan will take an ever-decreasing chunk of your income. If inflation exceeds the recent historical rate (as some project), the monthly payment will decline in value more quickly.

Cautionary note: I'd think the opposite would be true in a deflationary scenario, but I'm not equipped to judge the likelihood of either outcome.

[greedyemu]

I'm somewhat new to buying new. I went to the dealer yesterday for the Elantra Touring GLS. They quoted me $29,430 all-in. They also refused to bump up the warranty to the 7 year. They claimed they had never heard of this happening ANYWHERE. I told him I won't be buying from him unless he can do this for me. I assume they're just playing typical car dealer games and will phone me with an offer in a couple days.

By my calculations I should be able to walk out of there with the GLS for $25333.28. That's including $2700 in tax and their $1500 Delivery & Destination fees. This works out to be $150 bi-weekly for the 84 months.

I should be able to get them to knock about $1000 off the pre-tax price still, no? Or should I push for the 7 year warranty?

[616Nickel]

I'm somewhat new to buying new. I went to the dealer yesterday for the Elantra Touring GLS. They quoted me $29,430 all-in. They also refused to bump up the warranty to the 7 year. They claimed they had never heard of this happening ANYWHERE. I told him I won't be buying from him unless he can do this for me. I assume they're just playing typical car dealer games and will phone me with an offer in a couple days.

By my calculations I should be able to walk out of there with the GLS for $25333.28. That's including $2700 in tax and their $1500 Delivery & Destination fees. This works out to be $150 bi-weekly for the 84 months.

I should be able to get them to knock about $1000 off the pre-tax price still, no? Or should I push for the 7 year warranty?

Woah. What province are you in?

I'm also interested in the Touring GLS. Were you looking at manual or automatic? Are you sure they weren't quoting you on the GLS Sport?

I haven't been to the dealer yet, but I plan to take the Pricing Summary sheet from the Hyundai Build and Price webpage (with taxes and destination fees included), so there's no confusion.

[www2928]

At 0% it makes sense to do it even if you have the cash on hand.


Good POV sir.

[greedyemu]

Woah. What province are you in?

I'm also interested in the Touring GLS. Were you looking at manual or automatic? Are you sure they weren't quoting you on the GLS Sport?

I haven't been to the dealer yet, but I plan to take the Pricing Summary sheet from the Hyundai Build and Price webpage (with taxes and destination fees included), so there's no confusion.

I'm in BC. I was looking at the automatic. It's quite possible the guy was quoting me on the sport, I was just playing dumb in the beginning to see what kind of number's he'd throw at me. I had a pen & paper and was writing down everything he said (he didn't seem too fond of this, heh).

The $29,430 he quoted me for the GLS really does make no sense considering he said that that works out to $130-$145 bi-weekly. (That number actually works out to $175 bi-weekly!)

I will be bringing the website printout and my spreadsheet printout in the next few days as well.

[mrhappy002]

Are you guys able to tell me if a 2011 DEMO vehicule would be eligible for the 0% @ 84 months financing? How much of a rebate should one try to get on a DEMO Santa Fe AWD either Sport or Limited?

Any news or hints would help!

Thx

[BBucKK]

I picked up the Santa Fe 3.5 GL AWD for $36,262 all in (all taxes and fees). Hope this helps anyone also looking. I went in with the carcostcanada wholesale price. This is with the 84 months 0% and gas card.

I was examining my agreement and I see a $398 "security registration fee"? Dealer never mentioned that? It is under the OMVIC fee, Tire fee etc... Anyone know what that is and if it is mandatory? I live in in Ontario. I googled it and there is not much on the Net about the fee. One post said it is chemical etching put into different parts of the vehicle that gets registered with the federal government to prevent illlegal dismantling of the vehicle? Is that true and is it optional.

Thanks
BBucKK

[a2vr6]

I picked up the Santa Fe 3.5 GL AWD for $36,262 all in (all taxes and fees). Hope this helps anyone also looking. I went in with the carcostcanada wholesale price. This is with the 84 months 0% and gas card.

I was examining my agreement and I see a $398 "security registration fee"? Dealer never mentioned that? It is under the OMVIC fee, Tire fee etc... Anyone know what that is and if it is mandatory? I live in in Ontario. I googled it and there is not much on the Net about the fee. One post said it is chemical etching put into different parts of the vehicle that gets registered with the federal government to prevent illlegal dismantling of the vehicle? Is that true and is it optional.

Thanks
BBucKK



Thats a big ripoff and I would not buy anything from a dealer that tries to sneak that cost into the final price. Especially if they do not mention it. You are NOT obligated to pay for this. If you don't mind me asking, was this through Sisley Hyundai?

[BBucKK]

Ya - I'm waiting for the dealership to respond to me - I haven't picked up the Santa Fe yet. It wasn't Sisley.

Cheers
BBucKK


Thats a big ripoff and I would not buy anything from a dealer that tries to sneak that cost into the final price. Especially if they do not mention it. You are NOT obligated to pay for this. If you don't mind me asking, was this through Sisley Hyundai?

[a2vr6]

Ya - I'm waiting for the dealership to respond to me - I haven't picked up the Santa Fe yet. It wasn't Sisley.

Cheers
BBucKK

Don't let them get away with this, if they don't give you the money back or at least recoup through some extras (vent guards or oil changes) Then I would threaten to report them to the automobile association or bbb.

[jmgk]

Also just another thing that I'm surprised hasn't been talked about more is the dealer holdback.

I'm not sure if that info is on the car cost reports. Anyway this is a summary (http://http://www.carbuytip.com/car-buying-tips/dealer-holdbacks.html) of it.

I have never purchased a car so I only have theoretical knowledge of it. Maybe someone else that has more knowledge can shed light on this to help people bring down their cost.

[mrhappy002]

Also just another thing that I'm surprised hasn't been talked about more is the dealer holdback.

I'm not sure if that info is on the car cost reports. Anyway this is a summary (http://http://www.carbuytip.com/car-buying-tips/dealer-holdbacks.html) of it.

I have never purchased a car so I only have theoretical knowledge of it. Maybe someone else that has more knowledge can shed light on this to help people bring down their cost.

Not the most recent info I see...


What are the holdbacks for each company? Holdbacks can fluctuate from year to year, and may change at any time. However, here are the current holdback amounts for the 2001 model year:

Car Make

Acura
Audi
BMW
Buick
Cadillac
Chevrolet
Chrysler
Daewoo
Dodge
Ford
GMC
Honda
Hyundai
Infiniti
Isuzu
Jaguar
Jeep
Kia
Land Rover
Lexus
Lincoln
Mazda
Mercedes-Benz
Mercury
Mitsubishi
Nissan
Oldsmobile
Plymouth
Pontiac
Porsche
Saab
Saturn
Subaru
Suzuki
Toyota
Volkswagen
Volvo
Dealer Holdback

2% of base MSRP *
No holdback offered
No holdback offered
3% of total MSRP †
3% of total MSRP
3% of total MSRP
3% of total MSRP
no holdback – customer pays MSRP
3% of total MSRP
3% of total MSRP
3% of total MSRP
2% of base MSRP (not including Prelude)
2% of total MSRP
1% of base MSRP plus 2% of base invoice
3% of total MSRP
2.2% of base invoice ‡
3% of total MSRP
3% of base invoice
no holdback
2% of base MSRP
2% of total MSRP
2% of base MSRP
3% of total MSRP
3% of total MSRP
2% of base MSRP
3% of total invoice §
3% of total MSRP
3% of total MSRP
3% of total MSRP
no holdback
2.2% of base MSRP
3% of total MSRP
3% of total MSRP
4% of base MSRP
2% of base MSRP
2% of base MSRP
1% of base MSRP

[jmgk]

Not the most recent info I see...

It was more of a conceptual thing. I don't know where to find the actual figures.

I just thought that understanding how a holdback works could save someone a couple $100.

[mrhappy002]

It was more of a conceptual thing. I don't know where to find the actual figures.

I just thought that understanding how a holdback works could save someone a couple $100.

Yes, good point.

[frostiex]

picked up a touring GL for $253/mo OTR including Block heater, mud flaps and 6 year oil change in Calgary.

[616Nickel]

picked up a touring GL for $253/mo OTR including Block heater, mud flaps and 6 year oil change in Calgary.

Congratulations! Looks like you paid SMRP and managed to bargain on the options, then? Did you attempt to negotiate from the invoice price and find them unbudgeable, or did you just decide not to bother with the hassle of the car-salesman dance?

[frostiex]

Congratulations! Looks like you paid SMRP and managed to bargain on the options, then? Did you attempt to negotiate from the invoice price and find them unbudgeable, or did you just decide not to bother with the hassle of the car-salesman dance?

I did negotiate on the invoice price, but I looked at a CCC report and the markup was Just over 1000. so I knew it was hard for them to budge a lot as the margin is a lot smaller on these budget cars. They did end up giving me invoice +$500. Waived the admin fees, the tire warranty, the glass etching. Included the block heater and mud flaps.

It wasn't too bad. Originally it was MSRP + block heater + mud flap + admin fees + tire warranty + the security package. Everything came to over $23k. I told them, I am not going to beat the bushes and will buy if the price was right.

The sales person kept asking me for the price I want to pay. So I told him, the GLS for the price of the GL. Of course he refused and he kept hounding me for a price. Bu I told him, I gave u the price, now you have to give me a return offer if u don't feel my price is far then give me one that u feel that is fair and we will go from there.

[klover]

I did negotiate on the invoice price, but I looked at a CCC report and the markup was Just over 1000. so I knew it was hard for them to budge a lot as the margin is a lot smaller on these budget cars. They did end up giving me invoice +$500. Waived the admin fees, the tire warranty, the glass etching. Included the block heater and mud flaps.

It wasn't too bad. Originally it was MSRP + block heater + mud flap + admin fees + tire warranty + the security package. Everything came to over $23k. I told them, I am not going to beat the bushes and will buy if the price was right.

The sales person kept asking me for the price I want to pay. So I told him, the GLS for the price of the GL. Of course he refused and he kept hounding me for a price. Bu I told him, I gave u the price, now you have to give me a return offer if u don't feel my price is far then give me one that u feel that is fair and we will go from there.

Nicely done.

[bingo_jake]

Unfortunately we Canadians still get ripped off by auto makers and dealers, I just checked the Hyundai US website and MSRP of Sonata GLS is about $5000 cheaper in US, not to mention Canadian dollar is above $1.04 USD these days ....

oh well... >:(

[dreaderus]

to import and take loan/line of credit would cost probably more then this deal.

still sucks thou (coming from someone who imported in 2007) i hate the fact its like this.

[mrmccowcow]

Keep in mind there's no warranty on Hyundais imported to Canada.

[Abel4Life]

I'm somewhat new to buying new. I went to the dealer yesterday for the Elantra Touring GLS. They quoted me $29,430 all-in. They also refused to bump up the warranty to the 7 year. They claimed they had never heard of this happening ANYWHERE. I told him I won't be buying from him unless he can do this for me. I assume they're just playing typical car dealer games and will phone me with an offer in a couple days.

By my calculations I should be able to walk out of there with the GLS for $25333.28. That's including $2700 in tax and their $1500 Delivery & Destination fees. This works out to be $150 bi-weekly for the 84 months.

I should be able to get them to knock about $1000 off the pre-tax price still, no? Or should I push for the 7 year warranty?

Might as well ask for it for $10000 all in and claim you won't buy from them unless he can do this. :lol:

[greedyemu]

Might as well ask for it for $10000 all in and claim you won't buy from them unless he can do this. :lol:

What are you implying? I drove away with the car yesterday for the price I wanted. And yes, the first dealer I went to I told him I wouldn't buy from him unless he did it, and I walked easily.

[stardustcross]

Thats a big ripoff and I would not buy anything from a dealer that tries to sneak that cost into the final price. Especially if they do not mention it. You are NOT obligated to pay for this. If you don't mind me asking, was this through Sisley Hyundai?


Is that the same Sisley that owns Sisley Honda? I remember this guy at Sisley Honda that outright told me those security/etching fees were mandatory and they would show me bill of sales from other cars that had that fee. Uh....doesn't that just mean they managed to get someone else to fall for their scams. -_- Sigh...

Here is a print out from OMVIC that supports the fact that those "fees" are not mandatory: http://www.omvic.on.ca/pdf/OMVIC%20bulletin%20-%20November%202005-2.pdf

[BBucKK]

Is that the same Sisley that owns Sisley Honda? I remember this guy at Sisley Honda that outright told me those security/etching fees were mandatory and they would show me bill of sales from other cars that had that fee. Uh....doesn't that just mean they managed to get someone else to fall for their scams. -_- Sigh...

Here is a print out from OMVIC that supports the fact that those "fees" are not mandatory: http://www.omvic.on.ca/pdf/OMVIC%20bulletin%20-%20November%202005-2.pdf

When I called my dealer on this fee, they explained what it was but offered to remove it if I wished. I told them to remove it and they did.

[a2vr6]

Is that the same Sisley that owns Sisley Honda? I remember this guy at Sisley Honda that outright told me those security/etching fees were mandatory and they would show me bill of sales from other cars that had that fee. Uh....doesn't that just mean they managed to get someone else to fall for their scams. -_- Sigh...

Here is a print out from OMVIC that supports the fact that those "fees" are not mandatory: http://www.omvic.on.ca/pdf/OMVIC%20bulletin%20-%20November%202005-2.pdf



One and the same people, I would never buy anything from that dealership. I also dealt with the sisley honda back in the day, also a bunch of scammers. Cross these guys off your list, lol I remember Sisley Hyundai said they would not sell the car without the security etching because they would lose their license. hahahah.

[Awjvail]

I'm hoping they have a promo similar to this later this year/sometime next year when I'll be looking at a new Veloster...

[consumerPI]

Hyundai has come a long way since 2001/02. That Genesis model and arguably the Sonata are pretty good these days based on Value and Quality. Award winning in some case.


My 2002 Hyundai Sonata was by far the worst car I have EVER owned (and I've owned Fords in the 1980's:facepalm:).

There were/are no after market parts; Brake Rotors were $160 each, paper thin, and couldn't be machined even once. By comparison, at the time Impala Rotors cost $120 and could be machined 3-4 times. Same went for every other part - the best being the O2 sensor that was not in stock in North America and took 6 weeks to come from oversea's... :facepalm::facepalm:

Hyundai's are cheap out the door, but kill you on parts and repairs over the life of the vehicle (which I would say is no more than 5 years).

[larry81]

Looking to get an Elantra 2011 GL, was quoted list price by the vendor...

He mentionned 3k rebate if i pay cash

Anyone else purchased an Elantra, how much you paid?

[jc221]

Looking to get an Elantra 2011 GL, was quoted list price by the vendor...

He mentionned 3k rebate if i pay cash

Anyone else purchased an Elantra, how much you paid?


Seriously? I'd buy this if there was a $3k rebate. Please let me know how you got offered this.

[nuropa]

Looking to get an Elantra 2011 GL, was quoted list price by the vendor...

He mentionned 3k rebate if i pay cash

Anyone else purchased an Elantra, how much you paid?

there is no 3k cash rebate for Elantra. He is either confused with a Sonata or just lying to you.

[larry81]

there is no 3k cash rebate for Elantra. He is either confused with a Sonata or just lying to you.

just confirmed this is for the sonata...

what is a good price for elantra 2011 GL ? anyone have the cost ?

[Theoutsider]

if you consider that Santa Fe cash price last year was 20k and this year they jack it up to 24 k just so they can give you 0%, then you can see it's not much of the saving. Now on a personal note I've owned 9 hyundais since 1986, I loved first Pony and excell, found them to be very reliable. But since then every single one was a piece of junk. Especially my last two accents 2003 and 2007. My 2007 for instance is burning 12L/100km of gas, and the dealer tells me that it's normal because that's what their computer tells them. I tell them that if I wanted a gas guzzler then I could have bought Lincoln and have a comrortable ride and #1 reliable car on the market. Ps I also wouldn't put to much stock into the official car reviews making some Hyundai models #1 in their categories, I think many cars can appear flawles when their new, but wait till they go over 150 k and see how fast they start breaking down. My brother in law's Toyota camry is over 20 years 250k km and had only few maintenance issues still works great. I'm still tempted to give them one more chance on the 2011 Elantra, but first I have to wait and see what is their real life fuel economy because the advartised fuel economy I think is meassured when the car is on neutral going down the hill. By the way has any body notice that USA cars on average are 25% cheeper, even with our dolar being higher then theirs, also their freight fee is only 50% of what they charge here, and generally their cars come with slightly better features. Makes you wonderhow much money the car companies scam away from us poor Canadians.

[Jumbotron]

7 of the 9 Hyundais you've owned in 25 years have been pieces of junk and you still keep buying them? what gives - are you a glutton for punishment?



if you consider that Santa Fe cash price last year was 20k and this year they jack it up to 24 k just so they can give you 0%, then you can see it's not much of the saving. Now on a personal note I've owned 9 hyundais since 1986, I loved first Pony and excell, found them to be very reliable. But since then every single one was a piece of junk. Especially my last two accents 2003 and 2007. My 2007 for instance is burning 12L/100km of gas, and the dealer tells me that it's normal because that's what their computer tells them. I tell them that if I wanted a gas guzzler then I could have bought Lincoln and have a comrortable ride and #1 reliable car on the market. Ps I also wouldn't put to much stock into the official car reviews making some Hyundai models #1 in their categories, I think many cars can appear flawles when their new, but wait till they go over 150 k and see how fast they start breaking down. My brother in law's Toyota camry is over 20 years 250k km and had only few maintenance issues still works great. I'm still tempted to give them one more chance on the 2011 Elantra, but first I have to wait and see what is their real life fuel economy because the advartised fuel economy I think is meassured when the car is on neutral going down the hill. By the way has any body notice that USA cars on average are 25% cheeper, even with our dolar being higher then theirs, also their freight fee is only 50% of what they charge here, and generally their cars come with slightly better features. Makes you wonderhow much money the car companies scam away from us poor Canadians.

[Theoutsider]

Buying them 3 to 4 year old, they much cheaper then competition ie Honda and Toyota. But I guess there is a reason why their resale value is so low. Like I said their first cars were quite reliable, base on that I kept giving Hyundai 7 more chances. But now I'm very caucious, eventhough reviews say Elantra is the best subcompact, you have to wonder how objective they are. You can be cinical if you want, but do yourself a favour and start asking real Hyundai owners what they think of their cars once the waranty expires. And most of them will say that the only reason they bought those cars is because they are cheap to buy, but overall price of fixing them outweighs the initial low price. Myself - I don't need a car for next few years, I'm just trying to help RFD communiy, and give my life expirience lesson with Hyundai - that's all.

[Milamber]

I have a 2003 Tiburon SE manual. It has 160k on it and runs better than ever. The engine over time has worked in and has more punch than when I drove it off the lot 8 years ago. The major things I had to replace over the years were the alternator, battery, brakes and clutch spinwheel (I bought rotors and pads from a company that sells OEM cross-drilled rotors and ceramic brakes in Markham for $280 front and back pairs... labor was $90 at my local repair shop).

Never buy from the dealer if your warranty is up. E-bay is your friend for car parts.

This is the best car I have ever owned. Built like a tank and never fails me. I'll probably be driving this thing for at least 3 more years.

You should easily get three years on your Tiburon.
I had a 1999 Tiburon automatic that I just put down this year. It had 315k on it.

[superdsi]

My girlfriend and I have owned 3 Elantras. The 2001 had to have some electrical work done under warranty.
She sold it at 260,000 km. She bought a new one. (2009)
Mine has 243,000 km on it. I do no maintenance. I drive it. I change the oil twice a year (synthetic).
I have replaced a power steering hose.
The 2009 has 67,000 km on it. No issues.

I cannnot understand why warranty is such a worry.
Elantras will not be a problem.
I am not sure why people let dealerships steal from them when they should know better.
The dealerships are scaring people into expensive, ridiculous extra maintenance trips to the dealersip to MAKE MONEY.
The owner of the dealership is not your neighbour in most cases it is a dentist, doctor, or corporation that is trying to make money on an investment.

If you follow all of the maintenance the dealerships wants you to do it is more expensive than the warranty is worth.
Buy a car with a good track record. (Consumers Report) and don't worry about it.

[kunamvahees]

if you consider that Santa Fe cash price last year was 20k and this year they jack it up to 24 k just so they can give you 0%, then you can see it's not much of the saving. Now on a personal note I've owned 9 hyundais since 1986, I loved first Pony and excell, found them to be very reliable. But since then every single one was a piece of junk. Especially my last two accents 2003 and 2007. My 2007 for instance is burning 12L/100km of gas, and the dealer tells me that it's normal because that's what their computer tells them. I tell them that if I wanted a gas guzzler then I could have bought Lincoln and have a comrortable ride and #1 reliable car on the market. Ps I also wouldn't put to much stock into the official car reviews making some Hyundai models #1 in their categories, I think many cars can appear flawles when their new, but wait till they go over 150 k and see how fast they start breaking down. My brother in law's Toyota camry is over 20 years 250k km and had only few maintenance issues still works great. I'm still tempted to give them one more chance on the 2011 Elantra, but first I have to wait and see what is their real life fuel economy because the advartised fuel economy I think is meassured when the car is on neutral going down the hill. By the way has any body notice that USA cars on average are 25% cheeper, even with our dolar being higher then theirs, also their freight fee is only 50% of what they charge here, and generally their cars come with slightly better features. Makes you wonderhow much money the car companies scam away from us poor Canadians.

I have same issue with Accent 2007 and got same reply from dealer..I hate it.


My girlfriend and I have owned 3 Elantras. The 2001 had to have some electrical work done under warranty.
She sold it at 260,000 km. She bought a new one. (2009)
Mine has 243,000 km on it. I do no maintenance. I drive it. I change the oil twice a year (synthetic).
I have replaced a power steering hose.
The 2009 has 67,000 km on it. No issues.

I cannnot understand why warranty is such a worry.
Elantras will not be a problem.
I am not sure why people let dealerships steal from them when they should know better.
The dealerships are scaring people into expensive, ridiculous extra maintenance trips to the dealersip to MAKE MONEY.
The owner of the dealership is not your neighbour in most cases it is a dentist, doctor, or corporation that is trying to make money on an investment.

If you follow all of the maintenance the dealerships wants you to do it is more expensive than the warranty is worth.
Buy a car with a good track record. (Consumers Report) and don't worry about it.
Dont maintain your vehicle from dealer and dont get extra warranty.
Thats what I learned from my Accent 2007 and even dealer have no respect for you to maintain your car at their dealership and when you want to trade your car, they do not value your car in anyway differently from other cars.

[U4IA]

I have same issue with Accent 2007 and got same reply from dealer..I hate it.


Dont maintain your vehicle from dealer and dont get extra warranty.
Thats what I learned from my Accent 2007 and even dealer have no respect for you to maintain your car at their dealership and when you want to trade your car, they do not value your car in anyway differently from other cars.

It seems the bottom line for dealers when trading in is the black book value... i've had a few low mileage vehicles in mint shape since I dont drive tons, and they wouldnt budge on that value.. And if they do, its most likely coming off your negotiating dollar on your new vehicle...

Dealer service packages seem insane to me......on a minor service where only an oil change is required, there shouldnt be a $150+ charge to 'inspect' a bunch of stuff a monkey could do.. No offence to any mechanics but alot of these things can be done by any normal owner...

[consumerPI]

Like all other Auto Manufacturers, not all models are created equal. You had only been purchasing their low budget end of their line-up. Their Genesis model is very well received by Auto journalists/experts and are giving it high reviews in term of quality even comparing it to BMW, Audi and MB. Point is, you can't paint them with one brush when you have only tried only a couple of their low end models.


Buying them 3 to 4 year old, they much cheaper then competition ie Honda and Toyota. But I guess there is a reason why their resale value is so low. Like I said their first cars were quite reliable, base on that I kept giving Hyundai 7 more chances. But now I'm very caucious, eventhough reviews say Elantra is the best subcompact, you have to wonder how objective they are. You can be cinical if you want, but do yourself a favour and start asking real Hyundai owners what they think of their cars once the waranty expires. And most of them will say that the only reason they bought those cars is because they are cheap to buy, but overall price of fixing them outweighs the initial low price. Myself - I don't need a car for next few years, I'm just trying to help RFD communiy, and give my life expirience lesson with Hyundai - that's all.

[supersheik]

I just got a sonata limited for $33200 ish OTR. Basically Invoice (CCC) + 3% + grad discount (-$500). Was disappointed I couldn't get the 2.0T. But I saved money I guess. Waiting on delivery...

They charged me approx $500 extra compared to the $1565 + $100 on carcostreports for things like globali registration, vehicle etching etc.. and the salesperson said these were mandatory fees. Kinda a scam. Still a good deal?

[DirtyDog]

A family member recently (March) bought a Accent for $10K + freight + tax for 0% for 4 years. Really, other then the fianancing period, that was a better deal.

Anyone know where to find a carcostreport for Accents?

[a2vr6]

I just got a sonata limited for $33200 ish OTR. Basically Invoice (CCC) + 3% + grad discount (-$500). Was disappointed I couldn't get the 2.0T. But I saved money I guess. Waiting on delivery...

They charged me approx $500 extra compared to the $1565 + $100 on carcostreports for things like globali registration, vehicle etching etc.. and the salesperson said these were mandatory fees. Kinda a scam. Still a good deal?

Kinda? It IS a scam, those are not mandatory fee's.

[dbreaka]

I'm going in for a test drive for a Tucson GLS FWD.

Car Cost Canada Report (http://img857.imageshack.us/f/tucsonglscarcostcanadar.png/):
Retail Price = $28659 ($26799 + $1760 Freight)
Wholesale Price = $26938 ($25078 + $1760 Freight)

Promo - 0% 72 Month Pricing

I'm not committing to anything when I get there, but I will sit down to see what they have to offer based on the wholesale price above. The difference between the Retail and Wholesale is $1721.

Car Cost Canada says a 3% markup is fair. Based on the Wholesale price:
$26938 * 1.03 = $27746 (Savings of $913 from Retail price).

I'm hoping to get this + some accessories thrown in hopefully (a free keychain!! :D :D, no j/k... maybe some mats and some oil changes).

[dro3]

I walked in and the guy offered me 2011 genesis coupe 2.0t automatic for 29k cash purchase. taxes, fees, delivery in. Is it good ?

[IntrepidRT]

I walked in and the guy offered me 2011 genesis coupe 2.0t automatic for 29k cash purchase. taxes, fees, delivery in. Is it good ?
Could've picked one up last year for $19995 + freight + taxes

[mrmccowcow]

I walked in and the guy offered me 2011 genesis coupe 2.0t automatic for 29k cash purchase. taxes, fees, delivery in. Is it good ?

Base model or Premium? ($3250 cash discount applies before tax)

For Base, you're looking at $26,790.03 OTD
for Premium, you're looking at $29,908.83 OTD

These prices are based on $300 over invoice with $200 in Government fees (gas and tire tax, OMVIC, licensing)

PM me if you have other questions.


Could've picked one up last year for $19995 + freight + taxes

He wants an automatic and the $19995 last year was for the base 2.0t manual. It's actually better now since there's a $4000 cash discount for this month on the 2.0t base manual. That makes it $19527 + freight +taxes + government fees.

[firechkn]

What's a fair price to offer the dealership? I know ccc suggest offering 3% but that's $900 on a $30,000 car. What do season shoppers usually offer?

I want to buy a Sante Fe GL Auto and know exactly what I want, is $500 over invoice good enough? Of course I will not pay any other non-mandatory fees aside from HST and air tax.

[bubba_chubs123]

It's actually better now since there's a $4000 cash discount for this month on the 2.0t base manual. That makes it $19527 + freight +taxes + government fees.

Is this advertised? Here I am, waiting for a similar deal to the one they had last year, and there's already one on?!

[firechkn]

Is this advertised? Here I am, waiting for a similar deal to the one they had last year, and there's already one on?!

If you get a ccc report I believe that is the cash price.

[maiwear]

What's a fair price to offer the dealership? I know ccc suggest offering 3% but that's $900 on a $30,000 car. What do season shoppers usually offer?

I want to buy a Sante Fe GL Auto and know exactly what I want, is $500 over invoice good enough? Of course I will not pay any other non-mandatory fees aside from HST and air tax.

---we got one last week for 26000 all taxes in for Santa Fe GL Auto (cash price)

[mrmccowcow]

Is this advertised? Here I am, waiting for a similar deal to the one they had last year, and there's already one on?!

Not advertise but it's on the ccc report.

http://www.gencoupe.com/northwest-territories/49435-info-2011-car-cost-canada-reports.html


What's a fair price to offer the dealership? I know ccc suggest offering 3% but that's $900 on a $30,000 car. What do season shoppers usually offer?

I want to buy a Sante Fe GL Auto and know exactly what I want, is $500 over invoice good enough? Of course I will not pay any other non-mandatory fees aside from HST and air tax.

I paid $300 over invoice at a dealership in Toronto and only with required fees (OMVIC, gas and tire tax, licensing)

[mrmccowcow]

double post

[wakka88]

Not advertise but it's on the ccc report.

http://www.gencoupe.com/northwest-territories/49435-info-2011-car-cost-canada-reports.html



I paid $300 over invoice at a dealership in Toronto and only with required fees (OMVIC, gas and tire tax, licensing)

What is OMVIC?
Appox. how much for all required fees (OMVIC, gas and tire tax, licensing)?

[firechkn]

Not advertise but it's on the ccc report.

http://www.gencoupe.com/northwest-territories/49435-info-2011-car-cost-canada-reports.html



I paid $300 over invoice at a dealership in Toronto and only with required fees (OMVIC, gas and tire tax, licensing)

I'm starting to think it's a better deal to take the wholesale price + $500 dealer markup minus the $4000 cash price and smart finance 3.79% over 84 months vs wholesale price + $500 dealer markup and finance 0% over 84 months.

2011 Sante Fe GL Auto Wholesale price $26616:

CASH PURCHASE PRICE;
$26616 wholesale price
+$500 dealer markup
-$4000 Cash rebate
+13% tax
3.79% smart finance rate over 84 months=$354.52 or $29779.68 final price.

0% 84 MONTHS FINANCE PRICE;
$26616 whole sale price
+$500 dealer markup
+13% tax
0% 84month financing=364.77 or $30640.68

So it looks like the cash purchase price is cheaper, even more so if you can afford to finance for a shorter term or get your own financing.

[firechkn]

---we got one last week for 26000 all taxes in for Santa Fe GL Auto (cash price)

That's right there with my calculations...

[mrmccowcow]

What is OMVIC?
Appox. how much for all required fees (OMVIC, gas and tire tax, licensing)?

The required fees are about $200. ($94 for licensing).

OMVIC ($5)
http://www.omvic.on.ca/

[mrmccowcow]

I'm starting to think it's a better deal to take the wholesale price + $500 dealer markup minus the $4000 cash price and smart finance 3.79% over 84 months vs wholesale price + $500 dealer markup and finance 0% over 84 months.

2011 Sante Fe GL Auto Wholesale price $26616:

CASH PURCHASE PRICE;
$26616 wholesale price
+$500 dealer markup
-$4000 Cash rebate
+13% tax
3.79% smart finance rate over 84 months=$354.52 or $29779.68 final price.

0% 84 MONTHS FINANCE PRICE;
$26616 whole sale price
+$500 dealer markup
+13% tax
0% 84month financing=364.77 or $30640.68

So it looks like the cash purchase price is cheaper, even more so if you can afford to finance for a shorter term or get your own financing.

If you can afford it, the car will be alot cheaper if you take the cash discount (before tax). If you either only need to take a small loan to pay for the car or if you take a loan on the full amount and pay it off really fast, you will end up saving the difference between the amount you would've payed by taking 0% and the amount you pay taking the cash discount plus the interest you paid.

[greedyemu]

Quick aftermath based on my travels: Steer clear of Vancouver Hyundai on Kingsway St, as well as Richmond Hyundai, both are filled with con-artist salesmen.

I went in to Vancouver Hyundai knowing the invoice price of the Elantra Touring GLS and told him I wanted to pay cost + $500, more than generous on my part I thought. He just looked at me and my wife like we were idiots and said "So, you think $500 profit for us on a $25,000 vehicle is fair???" I replied, "Of course it's fair, I just waltzed in here of the street and told you exactly which car I'm willing to drive away with right this second. Someone else will gladly take my 500 dollars."

He decided to let another dealer take my 500 dollars. LOL.

[Sinoed]

He decided to let another dealer take my 500 dollars. LOL.

You would think that when someone walks in with a CarCost report its a pretty good indicator that they're serious shoppers.:facepalm: At the end of the day a car sold, is a car sold - I don't understand why some dealerships are greedy. The sales rep would have probably made a couple hundred as a minimum comission anyways too.. I'd be like "Umm.. sign here!".. :)

[firechkn]

If you can afford it, the car will be alot cheaper if you take the cash discount (before tax). If you either only need to take a small loan to pay for the car or if you take a loan on the full amount and pay it off really fast, you will end up saving the difference between the amount you would've payed by taking 0% and the amount you pay taking the cash discount plus the interest you paid.

Even if you can't afford it and take the cash discount plus 3.79% smart financing you are still ahead. Hmm, I wonder how many people fell for the trap of 0% 84 months...

[VirusSyn]

never owned a car before, this is really tempting, may pull the trigger on a Sonata

[mrmccowcow]

Even if you can't afford it and take the cash discount plus 3.79% smart financing you are still ahead. Hmm, I wonder how many people fell for the trap of 0% 84 months...

It's pretty funny sometimes. People see that there's 0% financing and jump on it without calculating the actual cost if they took the cash discount. Obviously if your investments are raking in a high return, you would take the 0% financing.

What people don't remember is that Hyundai Corporate will be paying you something either way. Either in the form of paying your interest on your "0%" loan or a large cash discount right away on a car.

[knapper]

I'm starting to think it's a better deal to take the wholesale price + $500 dealer markup minus the $4000 cash price and smart finance 3.79% over 84 months vs wholesale price + $500 dealer markup and finance 0% over 84 months.

2011 Sante Fe GL Auto Wholesale price $26616:

CASH PURCHASE PRICE;
$26616 wholesale price
+$500 dealer markup
-$4000 Cash rebate
+13% tax
3.79% smart finance rate over 84 months=$354.52 or $29779.68 final price.

0% 84 MONTHS FINANCE PRICE;
$26616 whole sale price
+$500 dealer markup
+13% tax
0% 84month financing=364.77 or $30640.68

So it looks like the cash purchase price is cheaper, even more so if you can afford to finance for a shorter term or get your own financing.

That is similar to the Sonata with a $3000 cash discount and 3.79% smart finance rate.

84 MONTHS SMART FINANCE PRICE, WITH CASH DISCOUNT
$21,031 wholesale price
+$1,565 freight
+$100 A/C
+$500 dealer markup
-$3000 Cash rebate
=$20,196 pre-tax

+$2,625.48 tax (ON)
=$22,821.48 to finance

@3.79% smart finance rate over 84 months=$309.74 or $26,018.26 total.

0% 84 MONTHS FINANCE PRICE
$21,031 wholesale price
+$1,565 freight
+$100 A/C
+$500 dealer markup
-$0 Cash rebate
=$23,196 pre-tax

+$3,015.48 tax (ON)
=$26,111.48 to finance

@0% finance rate over 84 months=$312.04 or $26,211.48 total.

Not much of a difference, but if you have a trade-in, or put cash down, and decrease the amount financed the smart finance rate (3.79%) becomes even more attractive (not accounting for opportunity costs).

[Awjvail]

Quick aftermath based on my travels: Steer clear of Vancouver Hyundai on Kingsway St, as well as Richmond Hyundai, both are filled with con-artist salesmen.

If you're looking for a dealership without con-artist salesmen you're doing it wrong.

Pro tip: They're all filled to the brim.

[wackojacko]

I'm starting to think it's a better deal to take the wholesale price + $500 dealer markup minus the $4000 cash price and smart finance 3.79% over 84 months vs wholesale price + $500 dealer markup and finance 0% over 84 months.

2011 Sante Fe GL Auto Wholesale price $26616:

CASH PURCHASE PRICE;
$26616 wholesale price
+$500 dealer markup
-$4000 Cash rebate
+13% tax
3.79% smart finance rate over 84 months=$354.52 or $29779.68 final price.

0% 84 MONTHS FINANCE PRICE;
$26616 whole sale price
+$500 dealer markup
+13% tax
0% 84month financing=364.77 or $30640.68

So it looks like the cash purchase price is cheaper, even more so if you can afford to finance for a shorter term or get your own financing.

Which extact model are you pricing here, try to narrow down invoice for a friend looking for 2.4 GL PREMIUM AWD. I was not aware of the $4K cash rebate, looks like I got some more calcs to do for him, lol.

Thanks.

[Feegus]

Even if you can't afford it and take the cash discount plus 3.79% smart financing you are still ahead. Hmm, I wonder how many people fell for the trap of 0% 84 months...


Whats the fine print on the 3.79% smart financing?

[mrmccowcow]

Whats the fine print on the 3.79% smart financing?

Not sure on the specifics though I know it's through RBC. I believe you can also pay off the loan at anytime so you can save on the interest.

[greedyemu]

If you're looking for a dealership without con-artist salesmen you're doing it wrong.

Pro tip: They're all filled to the brim.

I was pointing out that they were not willing to negotiate price, and therefor not serious-shopper friendly, but thanks for taking one sentence of my post out of context.

[firechkn]

Which extact model are you pricing here, try to narrow down invoice for a friend looking for 2.4 GL PREMIUM AWD. I was not aware of the $4K cash rebate, looks like I got some more calcs to do for him, lol.

Thanks.

That was for the Sante Fe 2.4 GL FWD Automatic.

[wolverine07]

It's a no brainer to me, take the 7 year 0% financing, invest whatever cash you have in an ING account at 1.5% and watch it compound. In theory If someone offers you a 0% interest loan, one should never refuse it. :razz:

[Feegus]

It's a no brainer to me, take the 7 year 0% financing, invest whatever cash you have in an ING account at 1.5% and watch it compound. In theory If someone offers you a 0% interest loan, one should never refuse it. :razz:

Agreed. Unless there are rather large discounts for paying cash. Jus a few posts up shows that pretty clearlyt

[nuropa]

I was pointing out that they were not willing to negotiate price, and therefor not serious-shopper friendly, but thanks for taking one sentence of my post out of context.

negotiation means give and take, sounds like you pretty much give them cost + 500 or else. they said no, so that's that. no point blame dealers, move on. there are only 3 Hyundai dealers in Vancouver area so you don't have a whole lot of choices.

[wolverine07]

Question, How is Hyudai's Warranty and service for those who have bought one?

[wolverine07]

Agreed. Unless there are rather large discounts for paying cash. Jus a few posts up shows that pretty clearlyt

Yeah, the more cash you have on hand is never a bad thing.

[Damed]

Question, How is Hyudai's Warranty and service for those who have bought one?


I have a 2005 Sante Fe and the only 2 times I had to take it in for warranty work, it was a pleasant experience.

[firechkn]

It's a no brainer to me, take the 7 year 0% financing, invest whatever cash you have in an ING account at 1.5% and watch it compound. In theory If someone offers you a 0% interest loan, one should never refuse it. :razz:

That might be fine in most cases but for the Sante Fe I'm interested in it's still better to take the $4000 vs putting your money away at 1.5%.

I know my math is rusty so correct me if I'm wrong:

As per my previous post the OTR price with 84 months 0% financing is $30640.68. If you had the cash and instead invested at 1.5% you will have $34005.65 over 7 years. $3364.97 profit.

The OTR price if paid in cash with the $4000 cash back is $26121.08.

So if you subtract your profit of $3364.97 from your total purchase price of $30640.68 you ended up paying $27275.71

Paying cash upfront vs 1.5% investment would save you $1154.63.

[wolverine07]

I have a 2005 Sante Fe and the only 2 times I had to take it in for warranty work, it was a pleasant experience.

Are Hyundai's warrantied for 5 years? I think I heard this somewhere, I do agree with people that their product has come a long way. May have to test drive one. ;)

[knapper]

It's a no brainer to me, take the 7 year 0% financing, invest whatever cash you have in an ING account at 1.5% and watch it compound. In theory If someone offers you a 0% interest loan, one should never refuse it. :razz:

The comparisons above did not consider putting any money down in either case and showed that the 0% rate cost more than the 3.79% with a cash discount. Note: the cash discount is not out of pocket, the price is just decreased.

[hpad06]

Are Hyundai's warrantied for 5 years? I think I heard this somewhere, I do agree with people that their product has come a long way. May have to test drive one. ;)

look at 2010 Santa Fe, some people replaced transmission 3 times, still problem not fixed. Hyundai changed engine and transmission on 2010 after models. also Hyundai replace tranmission using rebuild , not new ones, so cheap...

I was thinking to get 2011 Santa Fe, now I am not so sure

[gwmkwan]

look at 2010 Santa Fe, some people replaced transmission 3 times, still problem not fixed. Hyundai changed engine and transmission on 2010 after models. also Hyundai replace tranmission using rebuild , not new ones, so cheap...

I was thinking to get 2011 Santa Fe, now I am not so sure

wow! that sounds pretty extreme
where do heard stuff like this?
i know few ppl have the 2010 Santa Fe
it has been over 6 months since their ownership
they haven't had any problems with it

[wolverine07]

That might be fine in most cases but for the Sante Fe I'm interested in it's still better to take the $4000 vs putting your money away at 1.5%.

I know my math is rusty so correct me if I'm wrong:

As per my previous post the OTR price with 84 months 0% financing is $30640.68. If you had the cash and instead invested at 1.5% you will have $34005.65 over 7 years. $3364.97 profit.

The OTR price if paid in cash with the $4000 cash back is $26121.08.

So if you subtract your profit of $3364.97 from your total purchase price of $30640.68 you ended up paying $27275.71

Paying cash upfront vs 1.5% investment would save you $1154.63.

But if you had 30K cash on hand, couldn't you invest this at 1.5% and collect more interest? Instead of 1.5% on 4k?

[firechkn]

But if you had 30K cash on hand, couldn't you invest this at 1.5% and collect more interest? Instead of 1.5% on 4k?

That's what I did, invested your 30K you will end up with 34K. If you had the cash in this case it is cheaper to pay cash for the car upfront because the $4K bonus makes a huge difference.

[wolverine07]

look at 2010 Santa Fe, some people replaced transmission 3 times, still problem not fixed. Hyundai changed engine and transmission on 2010 after models. also Hyundai replace tranmission using rebuild , not new ones, so cheap...

I was thinking to get 2011 Santa Fe, now I am not so sure

I heard their were problems with the automatic tranny, the manual was fine. Ironically a colleague of mine owns a Santa Fe and says it is running well for the moment.

[wolverine07]

That's what I did, invested your 30K you will end up with 34K. If you had the cash in this case it is cheaper to pay cash for the car upfront because the $4K bonus makes a huge difference.

Let's just say you have to pay $357.14 for 84 months.

You still have the 30K cash on hand which at 1.5% monthly would amount to a $37.50 profit, which will be compounded on the principle for 7 years. Wouldn't this come out to more than Investing the 4K you get back after you pay for the car in cash? For me, the more cash you have on hand to invest, the more interest you will make in the long run when you use the power of compound interest over 7 years this can add up.

[firechkn]

Let's just say you have to pay $357.14 for 84 months.

You still have the 30K cash on hand which at 1.5% monthly would amount to a $37.50 profit, which will be compounded on the principle for 7 years. Wouldn't this come out to more than Investing the 4K you get back after you pay for the car in cash? For me, the more cash you have on hand to invest, the more interest you will make in the long run when you use the power of compound interest over 7 years this can add up.

I already done the calculations for you unless I'm missing something. Use an online calculator to see for yourself.

http://www.moneychimp.com/features/simple_interest_calculator.htm

[wolverine07]

wow! that sounds pretty extreme
where do heard stuff like this?
i know few ppl have the 2010 Santa Fe
it has been over 6 months since their ownership
they haven't had any problems with it

I just asked my co-worker if he had any problems with his Santa Fe and he said none what so ever. He also gave his thumbs up on the 84 month financing option, now for most people this would mean nothing, me included, but he's a Business Professor that teaches Marketing and Economics. ;)

[firechkn]

I just asked my co-worker if he had any problems with his Santa Fe and he said none what so ever. He also gave his thumbs up on the 84 month financing option, now for most people this would mean nothing, me included, but he's a Business Professor that teaches Marketing and Economics. ;)

Did he have a ccc report with all the financing and cash back options as well? I would like to see his calculations if you don't mind to make an informed decision. ;)

[wolverine07]

Did he have a ccc report with all the financing and cash back options as well? I would like to see his calculations if you don't mind to make an informed decision. ;)

I got a really long answer from him, factors you have to look into are our changing economy, getting a better return than 1.5%, for 30K some banks will give you a higher rate, but more importantly if you go into a car dealership and say you have the cash to pay for car, that's tremendous leverage for the buyer. Lot's of factors, I'm not saying your way is wrong but ideally it is good to have cash on hand, it gives you alot of options on what to do. If you do pay cash for your car, please shop around and get quotes, be the person with leverage.

[brownbobcat]

Let's just say you have to pay $357.14 for 84 months.

You still have the 30K cash on hand which at 1.5% monthly would amount to a $37.50 profit, which will be compounded on the principle for 7 years. Wouldn't this come out to more than Investing the 4K you get back after you pay for the car in cash? For me, the more cash you have on hand to invest, the more interest you will make in the long run when you use the power of compound interest over 7 years this can add up.

No, you don't have 30K in hand since that isn't the cash price. You have $26,121.1 in hand, assuming firechkn's OTR price is correct. If you parked that cash at 1.5% in a tax-free account (and withdrew monthly payments), you'd end up in the negative. In fact, the average interest rate over 7 years would have to be ~4.2% before you'd break even. There's no way you could receive that as a guaranteed rate unless you locked into a term deposit, which would defeat the whole point of having it as cash on hand.

[greedyemu]

negotiation means give and take, sounds like you pretty much give them cost + 500 or else. they said no, so that's that. no point blame dealers, move on. there are only 3 Hyundai dealers in Vancouver area so you don't have a whole lot of choices.

As I said a few pages back, I already have the car I wanted. For the price I wanted. I'm giving RFD'ers some ammunition by saying don't let the dealer push you around. It works. I'm new to buying new cars in that the last time I did it was 8 years ago. You on the other hand are sympathizing with the dealers. Obviously we're two entirely different types of shoppers.

[wolverine07]

No, you don't have 30K in hand since that isn't the cash price. You have $26,121.1 in hand, assuming firechkn's OTR price is correct. If you parked that cash at 1.5% in a tax-free account (and withdrew monthly payments), you'd end up in the negative. In fact, the average interest rate over 7 years would have to be ~4.2% before you'd break even. There's no way you could receive that as a guaranteed rate unless you locked into a term deposit, which would defeat the whole point of having it as cash on hand.

I redid the calculations, if the car is $30640.68 and you subtract $4,000 without further discounts, the total will be $26640.68.

If you had $26640.68 of cash on hand and you were able to get a term rate of 2.5% for 7 years compounded you would have $31,667.40, the interest at the end of the term would be $5026.72. This is more than the $4000 cash back the dealership is offering, to me it all comes down to the type of investment you can invest the money in. I own stocks and mutual funds and I can tell you if you pick the right mutual fund, 2.5% is a very moderate investment. For me I would rather have the 26K to invest in the markets, or for those that don't like risk they can put it into a 3.5% GIC that some banks offer.

[ddp]

The biggest issue with the 84 months IMO is people may start to over extend themselves. Say you were in the market for a 30K car, sure the sonata makes even more sense. But if your budget was 22K and you up it to 30K because of this promo that is where you might get into trouble. So if you were already going to spend 30K this is great, if you were going to spend a lot less this could lead you to trouble.


I just asked my co-worker if he had any problems with his Santa Fe and he said none what so ever. He also gave his thumbs up on the 84 month financing option, now for most people this would mean nothing, me included, but he's a Business Professor that teaches Marketing and Economics. ;)

[brownbobcat]

If you had $26640.68 of cash on hand and you were able to get a term rate of 2.5% for 7 years compounded you would have $31,667.40, the interest at the end of the term would be $5026.72. This is more than the $4000 cash back the dealership is offering, to me it all comes down to the type of investment you can invest the money in. I own stocks and mutual funds and I can tell you if you pick the right mutual fund, 2.5% is a very moderate investment. For me I would rather have the 26K to invest in the markets, or for those that don't like risk they can put it into a 3.5% GIC that some banks offer.
You have done the math incorrectly. The effect of the monthly car payments needs to be included in the interest earned - it's basically an amortization schedule.

There are many good reasons to finance as opposed to a cash purchase. However, if you're looking at the pure cost, financing is more expensive in this case. And why shouldn't it be, since you're getting much more flexibility? It would make zero sense to finance and then stick the funds into a 3.5% GIC for the reasons already discussed (interest is insufficient to offset cash discount, no cash on hand).

[DirtyDog]

Quick aftermath based on my travels: Steer clear of Vancouver Hyundai on Kingsway St, as well as Richmond Hyundai, both are filled with con-artist salesmen.
Curious.... what makes you say that?

[DirtyDog]

A family member recently (March) bought a Accent for $10K + freight + tax for 0% for 4 years. Really, other then the fianancing period, that was a better deal.

Anyone know where to find a carcostreport for Accents?
Not to be a bother, but did anyone else see this deal in March and have any inkling if it will come back? How about cash discount on an Accent? Any experiences? CCRCs? (where to find)

Thanks

[kkkat]

I rented a 2010 or 2011 sonata. It drove very nicely and quite comfortable for that price. Good on gas too. The only concern i have is it already had rust on the hood. Would buy one if it didn't rust so easily.

[PaulBC]

Yeah, I'm in Vancouver a lot right now, and I know there's at least one Hyundai dealer close by (Port Coquitlam), so I can probably play that card.
We did the reverse when we bought our 2007 Santa Fe. The salesman at the North Van dealer was playing games and wouldn't give us a final price until we gave him a deposit. After explaining that we would not be agreeing to buy something that we did not know the price of, we walked out. The next day, we called Victoria Hyundai (we're on the Island regularly), got $1000 off and some free accessories, and bought the vehicle over the phone.


If I did buy from a Vancouver dealer, would I be obligated to go to them for warranty service, or would any Hyundai dealer do?
North Van has done a couple of warranty repairs on our Santa Fe without any issues. I think warranty work gets charged back to Hyundai Canada, so the dealer doesn't really care where you bought the vehicle. They probably bet on you coming back for regular service if you have a good experience with a warranty repair.

[DirtyDog]

I rented a 2010 or 2011 sonata. It drove very nicely and quite comfortable for that price. Good on gas too. The only concern i have is it already had rust on the hood. Would buy one if it didn't rust so easily.
I would find it hard to believe a car that new would have any kind of significant rust without there being some kind of extenuating circumstances that would have induced the problem (ie. body/paint damage and poor repairs).

[kkkat]

I did a search about this issue. They cliam it's a common problem. stone chips + salt = rust. I guess that could happen to any vehicle. I just happened to notice that right away on the sonata i rented.

http://townhall-talk.edmunds.com/direct/view/.f228a6d

[matrixsoul]

Anyone tried to negociate an Elantra GL or GLS at Bank Street Dilawri?
When I looked for one last year they offered a price under the cost, saying that the were buying in bulk. Was thinking of 500$ over the cost, no admin fees, but don't know how much accessories I can negotiate??

[Faeton]

The biggest issue with the 84 months IMO is people may start to over extend themselves. Say you were in the market for a 30K car, sure the sonata makes even more sense. But if your budget was 22K and you up it to 30K because of this promo that is where you might get into trouble. So if you were already going to spend 30K this is great, if you were going to spend a lot less this could lead you to trouble.

+1. And tying your cashflow up for 7 years, when you're strapped for cash isn't a great idea either, especially if you don't see your pay increasing that much. A bad turn of events and being forced to sell the car could saddle one with a large shortfall.

So, it's a good deal for people that didn't need the 7 years, 0% to buy a car. But if you can only afford a car on those terms, maybe you should buy used.

[dandanpapa]

went to a dealer few days ago about Elantra Touring GL.
MSRP: 18599
AC Tax: 100
????:5
Freight:1495

Total: $20,199*1.13=$22,824.87

That sale guy didn't want to give us any discount, so we just walk out. just wonder how much would be fair?

[wolverine07]

went to a dealer few days ago about Elantra Touring GL.
MSRP: 18599
AC Tax: 100
????:5
Freight:1495

Total: $20,199*1.13=$22,824.87

That sale guy didn't want to give us any discount, so we just walk out. just wonder how much would be fair?

I recommend buying Car Cost Canada, if you are a CAA member you get 25% off for 10 car searches. This would give you tremendous leverage when buying. http://carcostcanada.com/1/en/default.asp

[TheHemming]

Does anyone have the car cost Canada for the Sonata GL and one for Sonata Limited?

[nonfatalexec]

Does anyone have the car cost Canada for the Sonata GL and one for Sonata Limited?

2011 Hyundai Sonata 4dr Sdn 2.4L Auto GL

Manufacturers Code: EB4
4-door Large Passenger Car

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 5 Years/100,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Emissions: 60 Years/100,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 9.4
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 5.7

Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $24,249.00 $22,516.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- HARBOUR GREY METALLIC (P3G) $0.00 $0.00
- STANDARD PAINT (-PAINT) $0.00 $0.00
- GREY, CLOTH SEAT TRIM (RAS) $0.00 $0.00
Totals including all items above $25,914.00 $24,181.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2011
Dealer Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate - Please see General Comments $3,000.00 April 30, 2011
Graduate Rebate Program/Factory to Customer Rebate $500.00 April 30, 2011
Finance Program
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 24 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 24 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 36 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 36 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 48 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 48 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 60 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 60 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - except Quebec - Please see General Comments 3.79% 60/84 April 30, 2011
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 0.00% 60/84 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 72 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 72 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Quebec only - Please see General Comments 3.79% 84 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 84 April 30, 2011
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 1.49% 36 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 1.90% 48 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 2.90% 60 April 30, 2011
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
THE GRADUATE REBATE PROGRAM/FACTORY TO CUSTOMER REBATE can be combined with any other available factory incentive. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount.
NO SECURITY DEPOSIT required on all leases.
Hyundai Canada is currently offering the PETRO GAS GIFT CARD when purchasing a new eligible 2011 model. With this gift card a customer receives a $0.30/litre up to 1,000 litres of savings at a value of $300 when purchasing fuel at Petro Canada. Please consult your dealer for further details.
THE DEALER CASH/FACTORY TO DEALER REBATE applies to deliveries between April 1, 2011 and April 30, 2011 and can only be applied to cash purchases. This program can be combined with the currently available 3.79% Smart Finance rates but can not be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates). This rebate is applied to the before tax amount. Please consult your dealer for further details.
The SMART FINANCE RATE can be combined with the Dealer Cash and the Stackable Cash Discount program, if available. Please consult your dealer for further details.

[total90]

I am really interested in the Tucson. Does anyone have any opinion on this compact SUV (both previous and current generation)? Has anyone purchased one through this promotion? Thanks!

[nedjel]

We did the reverse when we bought our 2007 Santa Fe. The salesman at the North Van dealer was playing games and wouldn't give us a final price until we gave him a deposit. After explaining that we would not be agreeing to buy something that we did not know the price of, we walked out. The next day, we called Victoria Hyundai (we're on the Island regularly), got $1000 off and some free accessories, and bought the vehicle over the phone.


North Van has done a couple of warranty repairs on our Santa Fe without any issues. I think warranty work gets charged back to Hyundai Canada, so the dealer doesn't really care where you bought the vehicle. They probably bet on you coming back for regular service if you have a good experience with a warranty repair.

My father in law bought a car from North Van Hyudai and he was not impressed to say the least, My former manager was trying ti buy a car from there but was harassed by the manager there.:|

[wukenne]

Does anyone have the CCC report for the Elantra Touring GL or GLS? I would like to know the base price to start as I'm looking to buy sometime this month.

Thanks in advance!

[napoleon1769]

So is it true that they break down fast after the first couple years after the warranty expires?

[nonfatalexec]

Does anyone have the CCC report for the Elantra Touring GL or GLS? I would like to know the base price to start as I'm looking to buy sometime this month.

Thanks in advance!

2011 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto GLS

Manufacturers Code: DH4
4-door Mid-Size Passenger Car

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 5 Years/100,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Emissions: 60 Years/100,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 6.9
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 4.9

Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $20,999.00 $19,772.00
Freight $1,495.00 $1,495.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- RADIANT SILVER METALLIC (SM) $0.00 $0.00
- STANDARD PAINT (-PAINT) $0.00 $0.00
- GREY, CLOTH SEAT TRIM (RAS) $0.00 $0.00
Totals including all items above $22,594.00 $21,367.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2011
Finance Program
Retail Finance 2.99% 24 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 2.99% 36 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 2.79% 36 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 3.79% 48 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 3.75% 48 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 3.75% 60 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 4.59% 60 April 30, 2011
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 3.75% 60/84 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 3.75% 72 April 30, 2011
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
NO SECURITY DEPOSIT required on all leases.
Please consult your dealer regarding THE FUTURE VALUE FINANCE PROGRAM for further details.

[bingo_jake]

2011 Hyundai Sonata 4dr Sdn 2.4L Auto GL.

Thank you for posting this.
do you by any chance have access to the reports for SONATA GLS and Sonata 2.0T too?

Thanks in advance

[wakka88]

My wife like Tucson and we finally made the offer earlier.

2011 Tucson Limited (no Nav.)
MSRP $32249
Car Cost Report: $30,077

I can only get the discounted price down to $31,101.50
Plus $3000 cash discount.

Add $599 under car rust protection (black stuff and regular rust proof for other metal parts)

Manager won't discout more possibly due to TUCSON sales are fairly good and this model is from Korea (not US)

I might not be the deal but good enough!

[nonfatalexec]

Thank you for posting this.
do you by any chance have access to the reports for SONATA GLS and Sonata 2.0T too?

Thanks in advance

Sorry, I don't have those reports. This is the closest one I have ...


2011 Hyundai Sonata 4dr Sdn 2.4L Auto GL

Manufacturers Code: EB4
4-door Large Passenger Car

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 5 Years/100,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Emissions: 60 Years/100,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 9.4
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 5.7

Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $24,249.00 $22,516.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- HARBOUR GREY METALLIC (P3G) $0.00 $0.00
- STANDARD PAINT (-PAINT) $0.00 $0.00
- GREY, CLOTH SEAT TRIM (RAS) $0.00 $0.00
Totals including all items above $25,914.00 $24,181.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2011
Dealer Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate - Please see General Comments $3,000.00 April 30, 2011
Graduate Rebate Program/Factory to Customer Rebate $500.00 April 30, 2011
Finance Program
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 24 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 24 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 36 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 36 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 48 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 48 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 60 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 60 April 30, 2011
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 0.00% 60/84 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - except Quebec - Please see General Comments 3.79% 60/84 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 72 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 72 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 84 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Quebec only - Please see General Comments 3.79% 84 April 30, 2011
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 1.49% 36 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 1.90% 48 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 2.90% 60 April 30, 2011
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
The SMART FINANCE RATE can be combined with the Dealer Cash and the Stackable Cash Discount program, if available. Please consult your dealer for further details.
Hyundai Canada is currently offering the PETRO GAS GIFT CARD when purchasing a new eligible 2011 model. With this gift card a customer receives a $0.30/litre up to 1,000 litres of savings at a value of $300 when purchasing fuel at Petro Canada. Please consult your dealer for further details.
THE GRADUATE REBATE PROGRAM/FACTORY TO CUSTOMER REBATE can be combined with any other available factory incentive. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount.
NO SECURITY DEPOSIT required on all leases.
THE DEALER CASH/FACTORY TO DEALER REBATE applies to deliveries between April 1, 2011 and April 30, 2011 and can only be applied to cash purchases. This program can be combined with the currently available 3.79% Smart Finance rates but can not be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates). This rebate is applied to the before tax amount. Please consult your dealer for further details.

[ygtgxi]

My wife like Tucson and we finally made the offer earlier.

2011 Tucson Limited (no Nav.)
MSRP $32249
Car Cost Report: $30,077

I can only get the discounted price down to $31,101.50
Plus $3000 cash discount.

Add $599 under car rust protection (black stuff and regular rust proof for other metal parts)

Manager won't discout more possibly due to TUCSON sales are fairly good and this model is from Korea (not US)

I might not be the deal but good enough!

was this for a blue ice model?

[Scav]

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

Pretty crazy.

You could be driving a brand new Sante Fe for $350 a month tax in. My brother saw it and is at the dealer now getting his.

For those of you thinking of purchasing a Hyundai, my experience with a 2010 Sonata has been less than satisfactory. One of the reasons I purchased it was because of good ratings and the excellent warranty. Unfortunately getting Hyundai to honor the warranty is a struggle. It began with transmission issues (hesitation between gears), so far no action from Hyundai. With less than 40k I am experiencing rusting on the front where stone chips have occurred. I've been told by the dealer this is normal however in 25 years of car ownership I've never seen this happen. Underside of the trunk lid is also starting to rust. Unfortunately I had a minor collision and had the front bumper replaced under insurance. Hyundai is using this as an excuse to say they can't determine what damage was caused by the accident and that I'm on my own. I've since heard a rumor that Hyundai undercoating is substandard. This is the last Hyundai I will ever own.

[a2vr6]

For those of you thinking of purchasing a Hyundai, my experience with a 2010 Sonata has been less than satisfactory. One of the reasons I purchased it was because of good ratings and the excellent warranty. Unfortunately getting Hyundai to honor the warranty is a struggle. It began with transmission issues (hesitation between gears), so far no action from Hyundai. With less than 40k I am experiencing rusting on the front where stone chips have occurred. I've been told by the dealer this is normal however in 25 years of car ownership I've never seen this happen. Underside of the trunk lid is also starting to rust. Unfortunately I had a minor collision and had the front bumper replaced under insurance. Hyundai is using this as an excuse to say they can't determine what damage was caused by the accident and that I'm on my own. I've since heard a rumor that Hyundai undercoating is substandard. This is the last Hyundai I will ever own.

So the there is rust from the stone chips? Did you clean touch them up? It does not take long for it to happen. Now if you still cleaned/touched it up then there is a problem if there is significant rust. Bring the car to another dealer. I had a similar song and dance with my toyota lease with rust occurring where the scuff plates were. Went to another dealer and they fixed it asap. Give that a try.

[Scav]

So the there is rust from the stone chips? Did you clean touch them up? It does not take long for it to happen. Now if you still cleaned/touched it up then there is a problem if there is significant rust. Bring the car to another dealer. I had a similar song and dance with my toyota lease with rust occurring where the scuff plates were. Went to another dealer and they fixed it asap. Give that a try.

If it was only the stone chips we could deal with that. The fact that the inside of the trunk is also showing signs of rust is the final straw. As I recall, all car warranties are pretty specific about perforation rust, not surface rust. Frankly I'm tired of dealing with Hyundai and want to wash my hands of them. I do appreciate the advice though.

[gucci17]

nvm...figured it out

[Abel4Life]

For those of you thinking of purchasing a Hyundai, my experience with a 2010 Sonata has been less than satisfactory. One of the reasons I purchased it was because of good ratings and the excellent warranty. Unfortunately getting Hyundai to honor the warranty is a struggle. It began with transmission issues (hesitation between gears), so far no action from Hyundai. With less than 40k I am experiencing rusting on the front where stone chips have occurred. I've been told by the dealer this is normal however in 25 years of car ownership I've never seen this happen. Underside of the trunk lid is also starting to rust. Unfortunately I had a minor collision and had the front bumper replaced under insurance. Hyundai is using this as an excuse to say they can't determine what damage was caused by the accident and that I'm on my own. I've since heard a rumor that Hyundai undercoating is substandard. This is the last Hyundai I will ever own.

Had similar issues with my former 2004 Corolla. Doesn't mean I will put the entire Toyota brand down. I also purchased it for the same reasons of reliability etc. But IMO the Corolla is just a cheaply made car. As a current Camry owner I would NEVER recommend a Corolla unless its strictly for short commuting. It felt so cheap that even if you move around the front seat the entire car shakes as well. Also on a windy day on the highway the car blows around all over the place.

[redplanet]

Had similar issues with my former 2004 Corolla. Doesn't mean I will put the entire Toyota brand down. I also purchased it for the same reasons of reliability etc. But IMO the Corolla is just a cheaply made car. As a current Camry owner I would NEVER recommend a Corolla unless its strictly for short commuting. It felt so cheap that even if you move around the front seat the entire car shakes as well. Also on a windy day on the highway the car blows around all over the place.

+1, also driving a 2004 corolla...on very windy days I can barely drive over 70km on open highway, and even at 70km it was very shifty...

looking at the sonata GL right now, how are they on windy days?

[SiGEL]

Lookin at these 2 trim levels... are these numbers fair?

0% FINANCING 3.8 BASE
$30,607.00 Wholesale
$1,565.00 Freight & PDI
$100.00 AIR
$600.00 Dealer Profit


$34,515.60 w/tax (5%)

$479.38 /mo (72mo)

0% FINANCING 3.8 GT
$33,853.00 Wholesale
$1,565.00 Freight & PDI
$100.00 AIR
$485.00 Dealer Profit

$37,803.15 (w/tax 5%)

$525.04/mo (72mo)

I'd be happy with this deal, what u guys think?

[frostiex]

went to a dealer few days ago about Elantra Touring GL.
MSRP: 18599
AC Tax: 100
????:5
Freight:1495

Total: $20,199*1.13=$22,824.87

That sale guy didn't want to give us any discount, so we just walk out. just wonder how much would be fair?

This is the exact model I bought, driven it for 1 week so far no complaints....just wich it had a remote starter like my Focus which I replaced. But I will get one installed soon.

Anyways, I paid $21210 ($252.50/mo for 84mo)

this includes all the TAX, BS fees, block heater, mud flap...also have them throw in 6years free oil change.

I did this in Calgary.

[dandanpapa]

This is the exact model I bought, driven it for 1 week so far no complaints....just wich it had a remote starter like my Focus which I replaced. But I will get one installed soon.

Anyways, I paid $21210 ($252.50/mo for 84mo)

this includes all the TAX, BS fees, block heater, mud flap...also have them throw in 6years free oil change.

I did this in Calgary.


Thanks for the info.
BTW, what is the tax rate in Calgary?

[gucci17]

Thanks for the info.
BTW, what is the tax rate in Calgary?

I think it's 5%

[toguy]

For those of you thinking of purchasing a Hyundai, my experience with a 2010 Sonata has been less than satisfactory. One of the reasons I purchased it was because of good ratings and the excellent warranty. Unfortunately getting Hyundai to honor the warranty is a struggle. It began with transmission issues (hesitation between gears), so far no action from Hyundai. With less than 40k I am experiencing rusting on the front where stone chips have occurred. I've been told by the dealer this is normal however in 25 years of car ownership I've never seen this happen. Underside of the trunk lid is also starting to rust. Unfortunately I had a minor collision and had the front bumper replaced under insurance. Hyundai is using this as an excuse to say they can't determine what damage was caused by the accident and that I'm on my own. I've since heard a rumor that Hyundai undercoating is substandard. This is the last Hyundai I will ever own.

So just to be clear, yours is the previous generation Sonata (i.e. 2010)? Considering how much Hyundai is flaunting their 'superior' paint process for the 2011, I would be really surprised if they have cheapened out in that area on the new model...

[mrmccowcow]

Lookin at these 2 trim levels... are these numbers fair?

0% FINANCING 3.8 BASE
$30,607.00 Wholesale
$1,565.00 Freight & PDI
$100.00 AIR
$600.00 Dealer Profit


$34,515.60 w/tax (5%)

$479.38 /mo (72mo)

0% FINANCING 3.8 GT
$33,853.00 Wholesale
$1,565.00 Freight & PDI
$100.00 AIR
$485.00 Dealer Profit

$37,803.15 (w/tax 5%)

$525.04/mo (72mo)

I'd be happy with this deal, what u guys think?

Looks like a pretty good deal. I would try to talk down the markup on the 3.8 to around where the gt is now. For comparison, I got my car for $300 over invoice.

[SiGEL]

Looks like a pretty good deal. I would try to talk down the markup on the 3.8 to around where the gt is now. For comparison, I got my car for $300 over invoice.

Thx, just got a call back from West Ed Hyundai, Talked to a wicked lady there, Super nice, no pressure, no crazy sales tactic... beat my offer and threw in ipd cable and winter packaga with block heater/winter wipers/matts and lock nuts ( i think that was it.)

3.8 Base 33979.95 OTD 461/mo
3.8 GT 37339.95 OTD 506/mo

0 Down... using the cash incentive and 3.79 financing with some other hidden incentives she was talking about worked out better than the 0% financing option.

My Purchase plan was to pick wholesale price add... 500-600 for dealer profit ontop AC TAX, FREIGHT AND PDI and email iT out to 6 dealerships. i've been receiving calls this morning and each one is beating the other one so far. I like the way this is going.

So what was your final price with tax? i know its 13% in ont... i'm just curious.

[joelones]

Just wondering if any of you guys know how to compute lease payments and perhaps can detail the process with calculations. Not that I want to lease but just curious.

For example the price on the elantra (retail $20,999.00 wholesale $19,772.00) with a Promotional Lease Rate 2.79%, 36 months. What is hyundai's typical residual percent (i know it changes with the term)?

[gucci17]

Thx, just got a call back from West Ed Hyundai, Talked to a wicked lady there, Super nice, no pressure, no crazy sales tactic... beat my offer and threw in ipd cable and winter packaga with block heater/winter wipers/matts and lock nuts ( i think that was it.)

3.8 Base 33979.95 OTD 461/mo
3.8 GT 37339.95 OTD 506/mo

0 Down... using the cash incentive and 3.79 financing with some other hidden incentives she was talking about worked out better than the 0% financing option.

My Purchase plan was to pick wholesale price add... 500-600 for dealer profit ontop AC TAX, FREIGHT AND PDI and email iT out to 6 dealerships. i've been receiving calls this morning and each one is beating the other one so far. I like the way this is going.

So what was your final price with tax? i know its 13% in ont... i'm just curious.

Do you add $500 before or after taxes for the dealer profit?

[mrmccowcow]

Thx, just got a call back from West Ed Hyundai, Talked to a wicked lady there, Super nice, no pressure, no crazy sales tactic... beat my offer and threw in ipd cable and winter packaga with block heater/winter wipers/matts and lock nuts ( i think that was it.)

3.8 Base 33979.95 OTD 461/mo
3.8 GT 37339.95 OTD 506/mo

0 Down... using the cash incentive and 3.79 financing with some other hidden incentives she was talking about worked out better than the 0% financing option.

My Purchase plan was to pick wholesale price add... 500-600 for dealer profit ontop AC TAX, FREIGHT AND PDI and email iT out to 6 dealerships. i've been receiving calls this morning and each one is beating the other one so far. I like the way this is going.

So what was your final price with tax? i know its 13% in ont... i'm just curious.

I bought a 2.0t gt last year with $3000 cash discount. The total was $31.6k OTD. The price you got looks pretty good. Just to let you know, freight and PDI is included in one price ($1565).

FYI, the ipod cable is free on all cars. You'll find it in your glove box when you pickup your car. The winter mats are a nice throw in since they're $80 for the fronts and around $40 for the rears. My dealer threw in locking nuts without telling me and I found out when I was looking over the car before picking it up.

As for taking the 3.79% and the cash discount, it almost always comes out cheaper as you found. You can also pay off the loan faster than the payment schedule to save on the interest you pay.

[SiGEL]

Do you add $500 before or after taxes for the dealer profit?

Before taxes

[SiGEL]

I bought a 2.0t gt last year with $3000 cash discount. The total was $31.6k OTD. The price you got looks pretty good. Just to let you know, freight and PDI is included in one price ($1565).

FYI, the ipod cable is free on all cars. You'll find it in your glove box when you pickup your car. The winter mats are a nice throw in since they're $80 for the fronts and around $40 for the rears. My dealer threw in locking nuts without telling me and I found out when I was looking over the car before picking it up.

As for taking the 3.79% and the cash discount, it almost always comes out cheaper as you found. You can also pay off the loan faster than the payment schedule to save on the interest you pay.


Those monthly payments she gave me were a load of bs.... based on 60/84 financing which is like leasing and a load of crap, thank god the one dealer pointed that out. But i do have 2 dealers that are willing to match my offers and throw in the winter package so i'm ahead from where i started.

[mrmccowcow]

Those monthly payments she gave me were a load of bs.... based on 60/84 financing which is like leasing and a load of crap, thank god the one dealer pointed that out. But i do have 2 dealers that are willing to match my offers and throw in the winter package so i'm ahead from where i started.

Just negotiate the OTD price. Numbers can be easily manipulated to get a certain number for the monthly payment.

[laksman91]

Just negotiate the OTD price. Numbers can be easily manipulated to get a certain number for the monthly payment.

Can you elaborate by what you mean that

[stardustcross]

Can you elaborate by what you mean that

well often salespeople will ask you, what would you like your monthly payment to me. so, letsay you want to pay $350 a month. this is not possible if you want to finance a car for 3 years...however, they can make your payment $300 IF...

- they change the finance/lease terms to some really really long time, or perhaps do the "balloon financing" where you pay lower in monthly payment now, and have a larger lump sum due towards the end (and end up paying a lot more in interest)
- they work in a down payment at the beginning, so your monthly payments end up being lower because you've already paid a few thousand up front

those are the only two i can think of now...but there are plenty of ways. and usually in the end, you only end up paying more. that's why you negotiate with ONE "otr" price. which also makes it easy to comparison shop.

[wolverine07]

This is the exact model I bought, driven it for 1 week so far no complaints....just wich it had a remote starter like my Focus which I replaced. But I will get one installed soon.

Anyways, I paid $21210 ($252.50/mo for 84mo)

this includes all the TAX, BS fees, block heater, mud flap...also have them throw in 6years free oil change.

I did this in Calgary.

Is this based on 3 oil changes a year?

[Scav]

So just to be clear, yours is the previous generation Sonata (i.e. 2010)? Considering how much Hyundai is flaunting their 'superior' paint process for the 2011, I would be really surprised if they have cheapened out in that area on the new model...

Yes, mine is a previous generation 2010. I hope you're right and that the new model paint is better. Let's face it, it's a roll of the dice with pretty much any car. I've purchased vehicles from GM, Ford, Chrysler, Honda and now Hyundai. Out of the 5 my experience with Hyundai has been the worst (Ford was the best), but that's just my personal experience. I'm sure you would be able to find others that have had a much better experience.

I do find it amusing when people who have been the owner of a car for 2 weeks while still intoxicated on the new car smell give there opinion. Everyone loves their new car.

[wolverine07]

I have a question, just a quick poll, to those that have purchased a car recently how many got free oil changes and for how long?

[supersheik]

I'm thinking that deal was amazing because the elantra touring will be refreshed next year so they're probably trying to do whatever it takes to get them out the door before it's released. Still, one of the best deals I've seen on this thread.


I have a question, just a quick poll, to those that have purchased a car recently how many got free oil changes and for how long?

[frostiex]

Is this based on 3 oil changes a year?

5000km service schedule.

[frostiex]

I'm thinking that deal was amazing because the elantra touring will be refreshed next year so they're probably trying to do whatever it takes to get them out the door before it's released. Still, one of the best deals I've seen on this thread.

I though about the refresh too, but my Focus was "hit and run", so it was written off. I didn't want to drive my SUV around town. This was prolly is the best price / feature ratio wagon on the market. And with this deal, giving it to my daughter in a few years when she is in University won't be too bad. Just didn't think you can get ANY car out there paying about $250 a month.

Never owned a Hyundai in my life. Definitely way better quality than my mom's 2002 accent which she got rid of in 2 years.

[supersheik]

That sucks. I guess something good came out of something bad. Congrats on getting the deal. I only wish I got something similar on my sonata.



I though about the refresh too, but my Focus was "hit and run", so it was written off. I didn't want to drive my SUV around town. This was prolly is the best price / feature ratio wagon on the market. And with this deal, giving it to my daughter in a few years when she is in University won't be too bad. Just didn't think you can get ANY car out there paying about $250 a month.

Never owned a Hyundai in my life. Definitely way better quality than my mom's 2002 accent which she got rid of in 2 years.

[TorontoEh]

Had similar issues with my former 2004 Corolla. Doesn't mean I will put the entire Toyota brand down. I also purchased it for the same reasons of reliability etc. But IMO the Corolla is just a cheaply made car. As a current Camry owner I would NEVER recommend a Corolla unless its strictly for short commuting. It felt so cheap that even if you move around the front seat the entire car shakes as well. Also on a windy day on the highway the car blows around all over the place.


+1, also driving a 2004 corolla...on very windy days I can barely drive over 70km on open highway, and even at 70km it was very shifty...

looking at the sonata GL right now, how are they on windy days?

Wow, with these comments I may as well consider Elantra in my purchase decision as Civic was my next choice but I like the new styling of 2011 Elantra and read reviews it gives better mileage than Corolla and Civic?

Although reading the comment about RUSTING and how Hyundai handled is making me think twice

[wolverine07]

5000km service schedule.


I'm thinking that deal was amazing because the elantra touring will be refreshed next year so they're probably trying to do whatever it takes to get them out the door before it's released. Still, one of the best deals I've seen on this thread.

Agreed that is a deal, the reason I asked is I am currently negotiating a deal, and I asked for 2 yrs oil changes which he counted as 6. I change oil every 3 months or 5K so I do believe it should be 8.

I am using Carcost Canada because a colleague recommended it, I have to say thus far it has been worthwhile, for a $35 investment, you can save $1000.00 in negotiating.

How Carcost works is they take actual dealer Retail and Wholesale prices of a car, you select whatever packages or features you want with it, it generates a current report, and shows you side by side the comparative pricing. Once you know this information you subtract whatever factory/dealer rebates that are usually not known to a car buyer but it shows up in the report, add up the price minus rebates, multiply it by a fair 3% dealer commission and the 13% HST and you arrive at a fair cost. The beauty of this is, is it takes away much of the guess work and the system even refers you to a carcost recommended dealer, he knows you generated a report and this cuts the negotiation process down significantly.

[supersheik]

Anyone out there buy a sonata? Post your deal.

[canadiankorean]

For those of you thinking of purchasing a Hyundai, my experience with a 2010 Sonata has been less than satisfactory. One of the reasons I purchased it was because of good ratings and the excellent warranty. Unfortunately getting Hyundai to honor the warranty is a struggle. It began with transmission issues (hesitation between gears), so far no action from Hyundai. With less than 40k I am experiencing rusting on the front where stone chips have occurred. I've been told by the dealer this is normal however in 25 years of car ownership I've never seen this happen. Underside of the trunk lid is also starting to rust. Unfortunately I had a minor collision and had the front bumper replaced under insurance. Hyundai is using this as an excuse to say they can't determine what damage was caused by the accident and that I'm on my own. I've since heard a rumor that Hyundai undercoating is substandard. This is the last Hyundai I will ever own.

My 2009 Camry has this rust issue too with the stone chipped areas..
I was totally surprised by it. I cleaned the area and put touch up paint over it.

[wolverine07]

We(my GF) bought an Accent 4 dr GL(AC, Power everything) yesterday and was offered Sym-Tech electronic rust protection with paint protection. Lifetime guarantee and it is transferable to another vehical when you are done with the car so basically this is lifetime rust protection for every car you own in your life. It works like this, they put a device on the engine and it sends some kind of electric charge that protects the entire car, it costs 1K. Can anyone comment is this worth it? Sounds reasonable, right now the car is financed for 72 months for $265 0 down.

[wackojacko]

We(my GF) bought an Accent 4 dr GL(AC, Power everything) yesterday and was offered Sym-Tech electronic rust protection with paint protection. Lifetime guarantee and it is transferable to another vehical when you are done with the car so basically this is lifetime rust protection for every car you own in your life. It works like this, they put a device on the engine and it sends some kind of electric charge that protects the entire car, it costs 1K. Can anyone comment is this worth it? Sounds reasonable, right now the car is financed for 72 months for $265 0 down.

I don;t this technology works, my opions of course after doing some research and watch it reported on TV. Also you can buy the device for like $250 at Canadian Tire and it is a very easy to install. $1000 is crazy my buddy just bought a Santa Fe on my advice and got it for $300 over invoice and did not buy any dealer protection option, my advise was you can do it cheaper later or not to bother at all.

[Goomph]

A friend of mine said that he had this device, and it was basically dangling off where it was installed because the area all around it was rusted really bad. He called it a snake oil kind of device .... I am just passing on what I heard ....

[nonfatalexec]

CarCostCanada seems to be having random cost reports that have links at the bottom of their page to get a free report, so I got the report for the Elantra GLS.


2011 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto GLS

Manufacturers Code: DH4
4-door Mid-Size Passenger Car

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 5 Years/100,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Emissions: 60 Years/100,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 6.9
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 4.9

Retail Price* Wholesale Price**
Base $20,999.00 $19,772.00
Freight $1,495.00 $1,495.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- BLACK NOIR PEARL METALLIC (S3B) $0.00 $0.00
- STANDARD PAINT (-PAINT) $0.00 $0.00
- GREY, CLOTH SEAT TRIM (RAS) $0.00 $0.00
Totals including all items above $22,594.00 $21,367.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2011
Finance Program
Retail Finance 2.99% 24 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 2.79% 36 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 2.99% 36 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 3.79% 48 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 3.75% 48 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 3.75% 60 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 4.59% 60 April 30, 2011
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 3.75% 60/84 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 3.75% 72 April 30, 2011
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
NO SECURITY DEPOSIT required on all leases.
Please consult your dealer regarding THE FUTURE VALUE FINANCE PROGRAM for further details.

[wolverine07]

I don;t this technology works, my opions of course after doing some research and watch it reported on TV. Also you can buy the device for like $250 at Canadian Tire and it is a very easy to install. $1000 is crazy my buddy just bought a Santa Fe on my advice and got it for $300 over invoice and did not buy any dealer protection option, my advise was you can do it cheaper later or not to bother at all.

Thanks, my colleague confirmed this, she got hers for $199 on sale at Canadian Tire, definitely from yours and her information, do it yourself. :!: Her car was fine after 1 years use however.

Edit-If you do it yourself you may tamper the warranty. Have the dealer install it if you buy it separately to ensure the warranty is not in void.

[marcXcore]

Guys, I need your help.
Like a few people who posted here, I too am new to buying new.
What convinced me to bite the bullet is having the option to possibly email dealers to get their best price, without the emotionally draining experience of having to walk on and off 10 lots in a day or two. My question is, how does one negotiate this way? Is there a template on Microsoft word between cover letters and grocery list that I may have overlooked?

I also recently acquired a carcostcanada report for the vehicle I'm interested in, so how would I use that effectively through email? Should I just say "Hello, I'd like to buy (name of car) for ($ I want to pay). Would you be able to include (list of extra features and incentives)? I'm willing to give the dealer a profit of (X% of the car's cost, let's say $700). I look forward to hearing from you." Do I mention I'm shopping around with other dealers? Should I include some topless pics? Perhaps, bottomless?

I don't know, I just want to do this right without pissing off the dealer. I'm serious about buying and would like this to come across in my email. Any tips? If this has been asked before (or there's a thread related to this topic) please let me know, I'd really appreciate any advice anyone can give. TIA :o

[supersheik]

Just be serious in your e-mail. Tell them what you want to pay, for whatever car and trim level. Make sure you specify that you only want to pay what you listed and not any other fees. Also include if you want any accessories or oil changes, but be reasonable. Finally mention if you want to finance or pay cash upfront. Don't mention anything about shopping around with other dealers and definitely no topless or bottomless pics. Good luck :)




Guys, I need your help.
Like a few people who posted here, I too am new to buying new.
What convinced me to bite the bullet is having the option to possibly email dealers to get their best price, without the emotionally draining experience of having to walk on and off 10 lots in a day or two. My question is, how does one negotiate this way? Is there a template on Microsoft word between cover letters and grocery list that I may have overlooked?

I also recently acquired a carcostcanada report for the vehicle I'm interested in, so how would I use that effectively through email? Should I just say "Hello, I'd like to buy (name of car) for ($ I want to pay). Would you be able to include (list of extra features and incentives)? I'm willing to give the dealer a profit of (X% of the car's cost, let's say $700). I look forward to hearing from you." Do I mention I'm shopping around with other dealers? Should I include some topless pics? Perhaps, bottomless?

I don't know, I just want to do this right without pissing off the dealer. I'm serious about buying and would like this to come across in my email. Any tips? If this has been asked before (or there's a thread related to this topic) please let me know, I'd really appreciate any advice anyone can give. TIA :o

[nonfatalexec]

When negotiating the price, when does the discounts such as new grad discount go in the picture?

[wolverine07]

Guys, I need your help.
Like a few people who posted here, I too am new to buying new.
What convinced me to bite the bullet is having the option to possibly email dealers to get their best price, without the emotionally draining experience of having to walk on and off 10 lots in a day or two. My question is, how does one negotiate this way? Is there a template on Microsoft word between cover letters and grocery list that I may have overlooked?

I also recently acquired a carcostcanada report for the vehicle I'm interested in, so how would I use that effectively through email? Should I just say "Hello, I'd like to buy (name of car) for ($ I want to pay). Would you be able to include (list of extra features and incentives)? I'm willing to give the dealer a profit of (X% of the car's cost, let's say $700). I look forward to hearing from you." Do I mention I'm shopping around with other dealers? Should I include some topless pics? Perhaps, bottomless?

I don't know, I just want to do this right without pissing off the dealer. I'm serious about buying and would like this to come across in my email. Any tips? If this has been asked before (or there's a thread related to this topic) please let me know, I'd really appreciate any advice anyone can give. TIA :o

I would pick 3 dealers to go into, there should be one dealer that is carcost approved on your report, you need 5 members of carcost canada to give you positive feedback to be an approved dealer. I would even call other Hyundai's and tell them this is the monthly financing rate I am interested in can you match the offer. What extras can you get? Ie. Oil changes, side visors, floor mats. Going at the end of the month is probably the best time you are going to get a deal. Everyone wants a great deal, but with the breakdown of retail and wholesale prices from carcost canada, it is easy to assess what is a fair deal, which in this case the dealer met for us, 3% markup from the wholesale price, minus factory rebates and or financing cash backs. Once you come to that number, the purpose is to cut down the search of randomly going to 10 dealers and talking deals. It cuts down the negotiation process greatly because they know you have a report. We just went to 2 dealerships and decided on the fairest deal. For us it was a 2K difference from the retail price from the Hyundai website, so it was a good deal from our perspective. No one is going to sell with a loss in mind, going in I had this in mind. As long as the dealer is not making 8-10% mark up. Everyone is happy.

[supersheik]

I wouldn't mention it till the end. I didn't. Because it has nothing to do with the dealer or cost of the car. I believe the new grad discount is thru hyundai canada.


When negotiating the price, when does the discounts such as new grad discount go in the picture?

[joelones]

Would anybody be gracious enough to post the 2011 Elantra GL not GLS CCC report? Thanks.

[marcXcore]

I would pick 3 dealers to go into, there should be one dealer that is carcost approved on your report, you need 5 members of carcost canada to give you positive feedback to be an approved dealer. I would even call other Hyundai's and tell them this is the monthly financing rate I am interested in can you match the offer. What extras can you get? Ie. Oil changes, side visors, floor mats. Going at the end of the month is probably the best time you are going to get a deal. Everyone wants a great deal, but with the breakdown of retail and wholesale from carcost canada, it is easy to assess what is a fair deal, which in this case the dealer met for us, 3% markup from the wholesale price, minus factory rebates and or financing cash backs. Once you come to that number, the purpose is to cut down the search of randomly going to 10 dealers and talking deals. It cuts down the negotiation process greatly because they know you have a report. We just went to 2 dealerships and decided on the fairest deal. For us it was a 2K difference from the retail price from the Hyundai website, so it was a good deal from our perspective. No one is going to sell with a loss in mind, going in I had this in mind. As long as the dealer is not making 8-10% mark up. Everyone is happy.

Couldn't agree more.
I think for anyone to expect the dealer to take a loss is living in a dream land.
I always go into it with a win-win perspective, so everyone walks away with something.

And supersheik, what if the pics were top and bottomless?
Maybe it'll be worth a free cargo cover or all weather mats?

[wolverine07]

Couldn't agree more.
I think for anyone to expect the dealer to take a loss is living in a dream land.
I always go into it with a win-win perspective, so everyone walks away with something.

And supersheik, what if the pics were top and bottomless?
Maybe it'll be worth a free cargo cover or all weather mats?

I forgot to mention they will know you are serious in buying when you produce a car search via car cost, they will email you infact in arranging for a viewing. I told our guy up front we wanted you to make money, but only at a fair market price which was no more than 3% in our minds. I also mentioned we went to another car dealership, which we did, different car/make and they were offering this. X...Ect...can you match this. The key is you have to go to atleast 2 car dealerships with 2 different car reports to narrow down your choices, usually its the incentives that tip the decision.

[dnyc]

Would anybody be gracious enough to post the 2011 Elantra GL not GLS CCC report? Thanks.

i just signed a deal at hyundai for the elantra gl model but manual, the wholesale price for this manual elantra gl model is 17010. including freight/pdi, a/c is 18605. i did not buy a carfax report. i told the sales person i know how much the car is from carcost so he brought the report up on his computer and we worked out a deal from there.

[joelones]

i just signed a deal at hyundai for the elantra gl model but manual, the wholesale price for this manual elantra gl model is 17010. including freight/pdi, a/c is 18605. i did not buy a carfax report. i told the sales person i know how much the car is from carcost so he brought the report up on his computer and we worked out a deal from there.

Thanks.
What was the financing like on it if you don't mind me asking? 2.99%, 24/36 months and 3.75% 48/60 as stated in the previous CCC GLS report? Were you able to negotiate any extras?

[nonfatalexec]

Would anybody be gracious enough to post the 2011 Elantra GL not GLS CCC report? Thanks.


2011 Hyundai Elantra 4dr Sdn Auto GL

Manufacturers Code: DH4
4-door Mid-Size Passenger Car

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 5 Years/100,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Emissions: 60 Years/100,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 6.9
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 4.9

Retail Price* Wholesale Price**
Base $19,199.00 $18,122.00
Freight $1,495.00 $1,495.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- HARBOUR GREY METALLIC (P3G) $0.00 $0.00
- STANDARD PAINT (-PAINT) $0.00 $0.00
- GREY, CLOTH SEAT TRIM (RAS) $0.00 $0.00
Totals including all items above $20,794.00 $19,717.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2011
Finance Program
Retail Finance 2.99% 24 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 2.79% 36 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 2.99% 36 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 3.75% 48 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 3.79% 48 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 3.75% 60 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 4.59% 60 April 30, 2011
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 3.75% 60/84 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 3.75% 72 April 30, 2011
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
NO SECURITY DEPOSIT required on all leases.
Please consult your dealer regarding THE FUTURE VALUE FINANCE PROGRAM for further details.

[wolverine07]

Did some research on Sym-Tech electronic rust proofing, before you buy have a look and decide folks. There will be a hard sell by dealers to have you install this.

http://www.ctv.ca/CTVNews/CanadaAMColumns/20110127/pat-foran-blog-110127/

[mrmccowcow]

When negotiating the price, when does the discounts such as new grad discount go in the picture?

It should be before tax. (Cash discount it before tax too)

[joelones]

@nonfatalexec, much appreciated.

[dnyc]

Thanks.
What was the financing like on it if you don't mind me asking? 2.99%, 24/36 months and 3.75% 48/60 as stated in the previous CCC GLS report? Were you able to negotiate any extras?

there is no promos/incentives because they are selling like hotcakes. i think im going to have to wait a few weeks to get the car i want (white). 3.75% financing 60 months is what im doing.

[joelones]

there is no promos/incentives because they are selling like hotcakes. i think im going to have to wait a few weeks to get the car i want (white). 3.75% financing 60 months is what im doing.

that figures. here i am thinking that come august (when my current lease ends and 2012s are out), i'd see the elantra sedan for 0%/84....fat chances if these things are selling themselves.

[importpsycho]

is it possible to negotiating rate?
interested in Tucson but 0% is up to 6 years(0.9% for 7 years)
I'm wondering if I could haggle into 7 years 0%

[mrmccowcow]

is it possible to negotiating rate?
interested in Tucson but 0% is up to 6 years(0.9% for 7 years)
I'm wondering if I could haggle into 7 years 0%

No, rates are set by Hyundai Corporate.

[dbreaka]

Has the $4000 cash incentive at 3.79% always been around?

[Sinoed]

We(my GF) bought an Accent 4 dr GL(AC, Power everything) yesterday and was offered Sym-Tech electronic rust protection with paint protection. Lifetime guarantee and it is transferable to another vehical when you are done with the car so basically this is lifetime rust protection for every car you own in your life. It works like this, they put a device on the engine and it sends some kind of electric charge that protects the entire car, it costs 1K. Can anyone comment is this worth it? Sounds reasonable, right now the car is financed for 72 months for $265 0 down.

Take your 1K and go to a regular rustproofing place once a year in the fall before the heavy salt and slush. I think it's around $125 for a full service and they spray the coating over the undercarriage and in the wheel wheels. You'll be much farther ahead and that stuff actually works. IMO the Sym-Tech "protection" is just a big scam meant to make you part with hard earned cash for some peace of mind.

[importpsycho]

i never financed car before
I should negotiating final price before I say I'm going to finance?
does sales rep get stingy if they know a customer is going to finance?

[sexyblackbmw]

does anyone have a carcostcanada report they could send me for a 2011 Genesis coupe 6spd base 2.0T?

what would be a good deal for this car? out the door...? thanks

[Danno2005]

i never financed car before
I should negotiating final price before I say I'm going to finance?
does sales rep get stingy if they know a customer is going to finance?

Definitely negotiate a better price.
Be prepared to not buy a car when you go in the first time if they do not negotiate better pricing.

[wolverine07]

i never financed car before
I should negotiating final price before I say I'm going to finance?
does sales rep get stingy if they know a customer is going to finance?

Use this calculator, if they offer any money down with a interest rate and compare it to the 0% financing. http://www.cars.com/go/advice/financing/calc/loanCalc.jsp?mode=full

[wolverine07]

Take your 1K and go to a regular rustproofing place once a year in the fall before the heavy salt and slush. I think it's around $125 for a full service and they spray the coating over the undercarriage and in the wheel wheels. You'll be much farther ahead and that stuff actually works. IMO the Sym-Tech "protection" is just a big scam meant to make you part with hard earned cash for some peace of mind.

+1

[mrmccowcow]

does anyone have a carcostcanada report they could send me for a 2011 Genesis coupe 6spd base 2.0T?

what would be a good deal for this car? out the door...? thanks

Third time I'm posting this now...

http://www.gencoupe.com/northwest-territories/49435-info-2011-car-cost-canada-reports.html

2.0t Base Manual (Financing)
Invoice $23,427.00
Freight $1,565.00
FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Dealer Profit $300

Subtotal $25,392.00

$25,392 * 1.13(HST) + $200(Government Fees) = $28,892.96 OTD

2.0t Base Manual (Cash Discount)
Invoice $23,427.00
Freight $1,565.00
FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Dealer Profit $300
Cash Discount $4000

Subtotal $21,392.00

$21,392 * 1.13(HST) + $200(Government Fees) = $24,372.96 OTD


Has the $4000 cash incentive at 3.79% always been around?

Which car? The genesis coupe (2.0t base manual) has the $4000 cash discount for this month. You can choose to either finance through the dealer (which is through RBC) at a rate of 3.79%. These discounts and rates change month to month.

[importpsycho]

anyone have CCC price for Tucson Limited /w navi?

[dreaderus]

Third time I'm posting this now...

http://www.gencoupe.com/northwest-territories/49435-info-2011-car-cost-canada-reports.html

2.0t Base Manual (Financing)
Invoice $23,427.00
Freight $1,565.00
FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Dealer Profit $300

Subtotal $25,392.00

$25,392 * 1.13(HST) + $200(Government Fees) = $28,892.96 OTD

2.0t Base Manual (Cash Discount)

anyone own this car? How is it? worth the price? compare it to others in its class?

I thought it looked hot but would hate to have it rust etc.

Also this one i cannot finance for 84 months right


Invoice $23,427.00
Freight $1,565.00
FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Dealer Profit $300
Cash Discount $4000

Subtotal $21,392.00

$21,392 * 1.13(HST) + $200(Government Fees) = $24,372.96 OTD



Which car? The genesis coupe (2.0t base manual) has the $4000 cash discount for this month. You can choose to either finance through the dealer (which is through RBC) at a rate of 3.79%. These discounts and rates change month to month.



how is the genesis does anyone own one? any comments? i really like the look of it.

would love some comments

[gyros]

i never financed car before
I should negotiating final price before I say I'm going to finance?
does sales rep get stingy if they know a customer is going to finance?

same here...
if i go for their current promo of 0% 72 months financing will i still be able to ask for a better price on the Tucson ($19999)? or is the price firm if i take the financing promo?

thanks

[moose3833]

Take your 1K and go to a regular rustproofing place once a year in the fall before the heavy salt and slush. I think it's around $125 for a full service and they spray the coating over the undercarriage and in the wheel wheels. You'll be much farther ahead and that stuff actually works. IMO the Sym-Tech "protection" is just a big scam meant to make you part with hard earned cash for some peace of mind.

Best time to have the spray applied is actually in the Spring when the salt is reacting with the metal the most with the temperature changes. Krown is always a good choice from my research.

[rambokid]

Third time I'm posting this now...

http://www.gencoupe.com/northwest-territories/49435-info-2011-car-cost-canada-reports.html

2.0t Base Manual (Financing)
Invoice $23,427.00
Freight $1,565.00
FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Dealer Profit $300

Subtotal $25,392.00

$25,392 * 1.13(HST) + $200(Government Fees) = $28,892.96 OTD

2.0t Base Manual (Cash Discount)
Invoice $23,427.00
Freight $1,565.00
FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Dealer Profit $300
Cash Discount $4000

Subtotal $21,392.00

$21,392 * 1.13(HST) + $200(Government Fees) = $24,372.96 OTD



Which car? The genesis coupe (2.0t base manual) has the $4000 cash discount for this month. You can choose to either finance through the dealer (which is through RBC) at a rate of 3.79%. These discounts and rates change month to month.
Good price compared to the Sonata. Last month, my friend brought a Sonata Limited for $31.5K out the door cash deal

[wolverine07]

I would highly recommend anyone buying a Hyundai to use Car Cost in determining the best deal, at the moment they have a hidden rebate as posted below in their reports. If we hadn't known we wouldn't have gotten the deal we got, saved about 1K on the total purchase of the car, and brought down the term of the finance to 72 months from 84.

Dealer Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate - Please see General Comments $3,000.00 April 30, 2011

[bingo_jake]

I would highly recommend anyone buying a Hyundai to use Car Cost in determining the best deal, at the moment they have a hidden rebate as posted below in their reports. If we hadn't known we wouldn't have gotten the deal we got, saved about 1K on the total purchase of the car, and brought down the term of the finance to 72 months from 84.

Dealer Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate - Please see General Comments $3,000.00 April 30, 2011

I had thought the rebates are only for cash purchases

could you please elaborate on what car you got? how much on the road price was? (if you don't mind me asking)

[MrDisco]

does sales rep get stingy if they know a customer is going to finance?



if i go for their current promo of 0% 72 months financing will i still be able to ask for a better price on the Tucson ($19999)? or is the price firm if i take the financing promo?


Everything is negotiable. Buy a CCC or APA report and bargain until you get the price you want. Financing is irrelevant (although you will give up any non-stackable, cash-only incentives that they may offer).

[wolverine07]

I had thought the rebates are only for cash purchases

could you please elaborate on what car you got? how much on the road price was? (if you don't mind me asking)

This was a factory to dealer rebate, it can be applied to cash purchases or to a 3.79% smart finance rate over 72 months. I believe the consumer would not know this information without seeing a report.

[messerchmidt]

the sonata turbo is nice

[bingo_jake]

the sonata turbo is nice

oh really? Thank you for posting such a usefull note :) :twisted:

[LankyD]

I was looking into Sonata Turbo when they had 0% 84 months a while ago. I saw some complaints about the left pull phenomenon on highways because of changes in electronic assisted steering system introduced in 2011 models.

Did anybody here experience the same problem?

[demanche]

Waiting for the 2012 models, the new accent looks to be a huge improvement.

Any ideas when the new models will roll out - is it usually right after one of these big sales?

[woodstock827]

I was at a Hyundai dealership ~2 weeks ago and the salesperson told me they'd have the new Accent by April15.
I will go check out the dealership again this coming weekend to see if they have it yet (only interested in the hatchback though).

[wolverine07]

I was at a Hyundai dealership ~2 weeks ago and the salesperson told me they'd have the new Accent by April15.
I will go check out the dealership again this coming weekend to see if they have it yet (only interested in the hatchback though).

I am interested in the new Accent also especially the new engine, I am always leary of buying a new car in it's debut year after making a dramatic change so we decided on the 2011 Accent, but if there are no major glitches this year, I will consider it next year.

Here are the key changes, impressive:

Hyundai’s new direct-injection, 1.6-liter “Gamma” four-cylinder engine, which makes 138 hp at 6300 rpm and 123 lb-ft of torque at 4850 rpm—up a huge 28 hp and 17 lb-ft compared with the current 1.6-liter Accent mill. Electric power steering conspires with low-rolling-resistance tires and six-speed manual (standard across the range) or automatic transmissions (optional) to help the 2012 Accent hit the magic 40-mpg mark in highway fuel economy, according to Hyundai; it should get 30 mpg in the city. It also helps that Hyundai kept the Accent’s claimed curb weight to around 2400 pounds regardless of body style.

[wolverine07]

Heard the 2012's will probably be in, in June.

[cannon_fodder]

I'm in Ontario and I've been researching pricing on the various 4 models/trim levels (all with FWD, Auto and no other options):


Tucson L - $331/month
Tucson GL - $345/month
Santa Fe GL - $350/month
Santa Fe GL Premium - $365/month


This is all in financed over 84 months with $0 down and $0 balloon payment. The only additional charges are licence and lien registration ($75).

If anyone has found better (or maybe additional incentives) please post them here.

TIA

[M.D.]

Third time I'm posting this now...

http://www.gencoupe.com/northwest-territories/49435-info-2011-car-cost-canada-reports.html

2.0t Base Manual (Financing)
Invoice $23,427.00
Freight $1,565.00
FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Dealer Profit $300

Subtotal $25,392.00

$25,392 * 1.13(HST) + $200(Government Fees) = $28,892.96 OTD

2.0t Base Manual (Cash Discount)
Invoice $23,427.00
Freight $1,565.00
FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Dealer Profit $300
Cash Discount $4000

Subtotal $21,392.00

$21,392 * 1.13(HST) + $200(Government Fees) = $24,372.96 OTD



Which car? The genesis coupe (2.0t base manual) has the $4000 cash discount for this month. You can choose to either finance through the dealer (which is through RBC) at a rate of 3.79%. These discounts and rates change month to month.

Really appreciate the information you're providing. How about for the 2.0 base auto? How much is the cash discount for that package?

[SkankButta]

Am looking at a Hyundai Santa Fe 2.4L Premium model. I currently own a 07' Jeep Compass that will have a balloon payment of $10,500. I plan on doing a trade-in of this vehicle, which I was offered $9000 for it.

While reviewing my print out for the price they offered me, I noticed that there is something added to the price called "check to pay negative equity". I am assuming this is the difference between my TIV and Lien. However upon review, instead of being $1500 it is $3200. I will be calling them tomorrow to confirm what this is, but was wondering if any one here has any insight.

Am I wrong on my assumption here? There is no way I am trading in my Compass for $7200. It is worth way more than that.

I also found out on my way out that the vehicle they sold me might not even be in stock at the dealer (white santa fe. I test drove a black one). LOL... They may only have the two silver colors. I don't mind the darker silver. I'm thinking this mishap will be good for some free oil changes at the least or else I may take my business somewhere else.

[mrmccowcow]

Really appreciate the information you're providing. How about for the 2.0 base auto? How much is the cash discount for that package?

The base auto has a cash discount of $3250 for the car.

2.0 Base Auto (Finance)
Invoice $24,816.00
Freight $1,565.00
FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Dealer Profit $300

Subtotal $26,781.00
HST $3,481.53
Government Fees (OMVIC, gas and tire tax, licensing) $200

$30,462.53 OTD

2.0 Base Auto (Cash Discount)
Invoice $24,816.00
Freight $1,565.00
FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Dealer Profit $300
Cash Discount -$3,250

Subtotal $23,531
HST $3,059.03
Government Fees (OMVIC, gas and tire tax, licensing) $200

$26,790.03 OTD

[berncres]

I'm in Ontario and I've been researching pricing on the various 4 models/trim levels (all with FWD, Auto and no other options):


Tucson L - $331/month
Tucson GL - $345/month
Santa Fe GL - $350/month
Santa Fe GL Premium - $365/month


This is all in financed over 84 months with $0 down and $0 balloon payment. The only additional charges are licence and lien registration ($75).

If anyone has found better (or maybe additional incentives) please post them here.

TIA

In case you weren't aware and not reflected in your calculations, the Tuscon 0% deal is for 72 months.

[cannon_fodder]

In case you weren't aware and not reflected in your calculations, the Tuscon 0% deal is for 72 months.

Thanks... yes, you can get 0.9% for 84 months which is ALMOST like 0%.

[berncres]

anyone have CCC price for Tucson Limited /w navi?

I do:


Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $34,249.00 $31,942.00
Freight $1,760.00 $1,760.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00

Totals including all items above $36,109.00 $33,802.00

*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2011
Graduate Rebate Program/Factory to Customer Rebate $500.00 April 30, 2011
Dealer Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate - Please see General Comments $3,000.00 April 30, 2011
Finance Program
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 24 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 24 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 36 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 36 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 48 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 48 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 60 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 60 April 30, 2011
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 0.90% 60/84 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - except Quebec - Please see General Comments 3.79% 60/84 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 72 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 72 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Quebec only - Please see General Comments 3.79% 84 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.90% 84 April 30, 2011
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 2.49% 24 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 2.49% 36 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 3.49% 48 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 3.99% 60 April 30, 2011
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
THE GRADUATE REBATE PROGRAM/FACTORY TO CUSTOMER REBATE can be combined with any other available factory incentive. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount.
The SMART FINANCE RATE can be combined with the Dealer Cash and the Stackable Cash Discount program, if available. Please consult your dealer for further details.
Hyundai Canada is currently offering the PETRO GAS GIFT CARD when purchasing a new eligible 2011 model. With this gift card a customer receives a $0.30/litre up to 1,200 litres of savings at a value of $360 when purchasing fuel at Petro Canada. Please consult your dealer for further details.
NO SECURITY DEPOSIT required on all leases.
Please consult your dealer regarding THE FUTURE VALUE FINANCE PROGRAM for further details.
THE DEALER CASH/FACTORY TO DEALER REBATE applies to deliveries between April 1, 2011 and April 30, 2011 and can only be applied to cash purchases. This program can be combined with the currently available 3.79% Smart Finance rates but can not be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates). This rebate is applied to the before tax amount. Please consult your dealer for further details.

[Type-S]

I'm in Ontario and I've been researching pricing on the various 4 models/trim levels (all with FWD, Auto and no other options):


Tucson L - $331/month
Tucson GL - $345/month
Santa Fe GL - $350/month
Santa Fe GL Premium - $365/month


This is all in financed over 84 months with $0 down and $0 balloon payment. The only additional charges are licence and lien registration ($75).

If anyone has found better (or maybe additional incentives) please post them here.

TIA

What's the price breakdown on the Santa Fe GL Premium?

[JJKYLIN]

Does anyone have the CCC report for Touring GLS or GL?
Thanks a lot!

[JJKYLIN]

Hi guys,
I am looking for a good deal for Touring GLS,
The dealer give me a offer which include 199 Nitro and 299 lifetime Oil change.
Nitro is something about filling tire with Nitrogen instead of air.
Here is my questions:

I know oil change is not mandatory but wonder is it worthy?
And the dealer said Nitro is mandatory. Is it ture? Anybody who bought Hyundai recently pay this fee ?

[shahn2]

I'm in Ontario and I've been researching pricing on the various 4 models/trim levels (all with FWD, Auto and no other options):


Tucson L - $331/month
Tucson GL - $345/month
Santa Fe GL - $350/month
Santa Fe GL Premium - $365/month


This is all in financed over 84 months with $0 down and $0 balloon payment. The only additional charges are licence and lien registration ($75).

If anyone has found better (or maybe additional incentives) please post them here.

TIA

I am assuming these prices do not include tax?

[frostiex]

Does anyone have the CCC report for Touring GLS or GL?
Thanks a lot!

just check here for what i paid.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/hot-new-hyundai-promo-0-down-0-interest-84-months-30c-litre-gas-card-1022657/21/

[MrDisco]

And the dealer said Nitro is mandatory. Is it ture? Anybody who bought Hyundai recently pay this fee ?

Please tell this "consultant" to take a flying leap. It is not mandatory. If it were it would be listed on the Hyundai web page. In fact why not call Hyundai's corporate customer service line and ask them if it's a mandatory. While you're at it tell them how dissatisfied you are with this dealer and their attempts to lie to you.

Nitrogen is an expensive gimmick imo. Just fill up using regular air like billions of ppl have done worldwide for the last 100 years.

$300 oil change - interesting gimmick. are you comfortable with bringing your car to this one location (i assume it's just the one location) for the rest of the car's life?

[JJKYLIN]

just check here for what i paid.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/hot-new-hyundai-promo-0-down-0-interest-84-months-30c-litre-gas-card-1022657/21/

Thank you frostiex.

You don't need to pay PST, right?

I check the Hyundai website, It shows that the sugested price for Touring GL in AB is $21224(including tax and other fee), which is $22853 in ON. That is huge difference. I wish I could buy the car from your province.

By the way, did you pay the Nitro fee for your car. I am wondering is it mandatory?

[JJKYLIN]

Please tell this "consultant" to take a flying leap. It is not mandatory. If it were it would be listed on the Hyundai web page. In fact why not call Hyundai's corporate customer service line and ask them if it's a mandatory. While you're at it tell them how dissatisfied you are with this dealer and their attempts to lie to you.

Nitrogen is an expensive gimmick imo. Just fill up using regular air like billions of ppl have done worldwide for the last 100 years.

$300 oil change - interesting gimmick. are you comfortable with bringing your car to this one location (i assume it's just the one location) for the rest of the car's life?


Thank you MrDisco, Very useful information.

[a2vr6]

Thank you frostiex.

You don't need to pay PST, right?

I check the Hyundai website, It shows that the sugested price for Touring GL in AB is $21224(including tax and other fee), which is $22853 in ON. That is huge difference. I wish I could buy the car from your province.

By the way, did you pay the Nitro fee for your car. I am wondering is it mandatory?

Any fee other than Freight/PDI and air tax (if you get a/c) is NOT mandatory. The dealer is lying to you. Go elsewhere...it will pay off in the long/short term.

[Albertan]

Can Anyone provide a Car Cost Canada report for a Tuscon GLS Auto AWD?

[dandanpapa]

Hi guys,
I am looking for a good deal for Touring GLS,
The dealer give me a offer which include 199 Nitro and 299 lifetime Oil change.
Nitro is something about filling tire with Nitrogen instead of air.
Here is my questions:

I know oil change is not mandatory but wonder is it worthy?
And the dealer said Nitro is mandatory. Is it ture? Anybody who bought Hyundai recently pay this fee ?


Touring GL
MSRP: 18599
dealer discount: -800
Freignt: 1495
AC&? tax: 130
Registration fee: 299 (I'm not sure if this one is necessary, but this is printed on their form)

total +13%tax=$22,287
This is what I paid last week

[JJKYLIN]

Touring GL
MSRP: 18599
dealer discount: -800
Freignt: 1495
AC&? tax: 130
Registration fee: 299 (I'm not sure if this one is necessary, but this is printed on their form)

total +13%tax=$22,287
This is what I paid last week

Not bad deal, but I think the registration fee is not mandatory 'cause my dealer didn't mention this fee.

Did you get some extra bonus? like free oil change

[Super strokey]

Hey folks who bought a Santa Fe what are you paying roughly for them. Wife is looking at a Limited AWD without navigation (maybe with depending on price).

[el_pablo]

This is the exact model I bought, driven it for 1 week so far no complaints....just wich it had a remote starter like my Focus which I replaced. But I will get one installed soon.

Anyways, I paid $21210 ($252.50/mo for 84mo)

this includes all the TAX, BS fees, block heater, mud flap...also have them throw in 6years free oil change.

I did this in Calgary.

Question to frostiex : Was it automatic?

[JJKYLIN]

Question to frostiex : Was it automatic?

It was

[GreyingJay]

$300 oil change - interesting gimmick. are you comfortable with bringing your car to this one location (i assume it's just the one location) for the rest of the car's life?

It would probably only take about 7-8 oil changes to break even, so it might be worthwhile.

[QuadESL63]

I haven't read the whole thread yet but is there any deal on the 2.0 turbo'ed Genesis Coupe? Thanks

[toonlad]

Can Anyone provide a Car Cost Canada report for a Tuscon GLS Auto AWD?


Just bought the exact same model using CCC report.
Ended up paying $33500 on the road.
Got the 0% and gas card deal
Did get the 7 yr 140000 warranty and mudguards,mats and cargo net added for that.
I was happy with the deal


2011 Hyundai Tucson AWD 4dr I4 Auto GLS

Manufacturers Code: JUC
4WD Sport Utility Vehicles

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 5 Years/100,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Emissions: 60 Years/100,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 9.8 (2010)
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 7.1 (2010)



Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $28,799.00 $26,949.00
Freight $1,760.00 $1,760.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
- GARNET RED (SAZ) $0.00 $0.00
- STANDARD PAINT (-PAINT) $0.00 $0.00
- BLACK, CLOTH W/LEATHER BOLSTER SEAT TRIM (9P) $0.00 $0.00
Totals including all items above $30,659.00 $28,809.00
*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.

** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.

Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2011
Graduate Rebate Program/Factory to Customer Rebate $500.00 April 30, 2011
Dealer Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate - Please see General Comments $3,000.00 April 30, 2011
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.00% 24 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 24 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 36 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 36 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 48 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 48 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 60 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 60 April 30, 2011
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 0.90% 60/84 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - except Quebec - Please see General Comments 3.79% 60/84 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 72 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.79% 72 April 30, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Quebec only - Please see General Comments 3.79% 84 April 30, 2011
Retail Finance 0.90% 84 April 30, 2011
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 2.49% 24 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 2.49% 36 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 3.49% 48 April 30, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 3.99% 60 April 30, 2011
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
The SMART FINANCE RATE can be combined with the Dealer Cash and the Stackable Cash Discount program, if available. Please consult your dealer for further details.
THE DEALER CASH/FACTORY TO DEALER REBATE applies to deliveries between April 1, 2011 and April 30, 2011 and can only be applied to cash purchases. This program can be combined with the currently available 3.79% Smart Finance rates but can not be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates). This rebate is applied to the before tax amount. Please consult your dealer for further details.
Please consult your dealer regarding THE FUTURE VALUE FINANCE PROGRAM for further details.
Hyundai Canada is currently offering the PETRO GAS GIFT CARD when purchasing a new eligible 2011 model. With this gift card a customer receives a $0.30/litre up to 1,200 litres of savings at a value of $360 when purchasing fuel at Petro Canada. Please consult your dealer for further details.
THE GRADUATE REBATE PROGRAM/FACTORY TO CUSTOMER REBATE can be combined with any other available factory incentive. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount.
NO SECURITY DEPOSIT required on all leases.

[Rehan]

It would probably only take about 7-8 oil changes to break even, so it might be worthwhile. The more important question is whether you would take your car for service to a dealer that has already lied to you. Don't be surprised if they tell you that your brakes are bad when they're not, that you need a transmission flush when you don't, etc. etc.

[cannon_fodder]

I am assuming these prices do not include tax?

Best deal I got was 84 months 0% on a FWD Santa Fe premium with a couple of accessories thrown in for 374.75/mth all in. Only an additional $75 for PPSA.

Took two full days of negotiating to find a dealer with the right colour.

I know of another dealer in the GTA who will give the same deal.

[mrmccowcow]

I haven't read the whole thread yet but is there any deal on the 2.0 turbo'ed Genesis Coupe? Thanks

0% up to 72 months
$4000 cash discount on 2.0t base manual
$3250 cash discount on rest of models

[cannon_fodder]

What's the price breakdown on the Santa Fe GL Premium?

If you still need this let me know and I can put all the details. If you have a car cost report then just use the wholesale price with freight and air and omvic and tire tax. Add your HST and then divide by 84.

[wolverine07]

We picked up our Hyundai Accent from the Thornhill dealership last night, in all we saved $880 from the wholesale price and $1989 retail before tax on the total cost of the car using CCC. Overall we are happy with the purchase, car had less than 50KM on it, and the salesman provided very good service. Though we didn't get the free oil changes, he threw in wheel locks without us asking. When the new 2012 Accent comes out, I will consider coming back here to buy.

The gas card was a bonus savings also.

[canadiankorean]

Do they offer 0% financing on all their cars?
Or is it just a few select models from each line like the Sonata, Elantra, etc?

[cannon_fodder]

Santa Fe GL Premium
Sale Price:.........$25,954.04
Freight:..............$1,760.00
Federal AC Levy:.....$100
OMVIC Fee:...............$5
Tire Stewardship:......$30
HST:..................$3,620.38
Total:...............$31,469.42
Licence:..................$87.85
Deposit:...............-$162.85
PPSA:.....................$85
TOTAL:.............$31,479.42

Financed at 0% over 84 months = $374.75/mth and included the gas card, wheel locks, mats, full tank of gas and a couple of other accessories with MSRP of $200.

[Jul251]

84 months!? wow! I've got some reading to do :)

[bingo_jake]

Santa Fe GL Premium
Sale Price:.........$25,954.04
Freight:..............$1,760.00
Federal AC Levy:.....$100
OMVIC Fee:...............$5
Tire Stewardship:......$30
HST:..................$3,620.38
Total:...............$31,469.42
Licence:..................$87.85
Deposit:...............-$162.85
PPSA:.....................$85
TOTAL:.............$31,479.42

Financed at 0% over 84 months = $374.75/mth and included the gas card, wheel locks, mats, full tank of gas and a couple of other accessories with MSRP of $200.

Congrat. That's really good price. so you were able to get the car at CCC whole sale price with no markup ?

would you mind sending me (PM) the dealer / sale person contact info? I am interested in buying a Sonata , hopefully I can get a deal like this.

[GreyingJay]

The more important question is whether you would take your car for service to a dealer that has already lied to you. Don't be surprised if they tell you that your brakes are bad when they're not, that you need a transmission flush when you don't, etc. etc.

True. I guess that judgement has to be made based on the specific dealer and one's feeling of whether or not they are being honest.

I used to trust my local Toyota dealer, but over the past year or so they seem to have gone downhill. Their labour rates have jumped by about $20/hour and they are starting to pull tricks that they didn't used to before, like "accidentally" forgetting that the service schedule alternates between the expensive "maintenance service" and the cheaper "express service", and doing three "maintenance" services in a row. They also told me I needed to book a time to do front brake work (fair enough) but when I arrived that morning, tried to tell me that I was booked for front AND back brake work. Hmm. :mad:

I used to take everything to them by default since they're close to home, they were honest, and prices were fairly competitive, but... not anymore.

[ahlavanthan]

Congrat. That's really good price. so you were able to get the car at CCC whole sale price with no markup ?

would you mind sending me (PM) the dealer / sale person contact info? I am interested in buying a Sonata , hopefully I can get a deal like this.



Please post any positive results you have for the Sonata. My lease is ending and am looking at that model too.

[cannon_fodder]

The guy who sold me my car is anxious to get one more car delivered on the weekend. He's already broken the all time record for his dealership for one month. Another RFDer got a deal from him today. At cost.

[wongster]

2011 Hyundai Santa Fe AWD 4dr V6 Auto Limited
Retail Price *Wholesale Price **
Base $35,799.00 $33,278.00
Freight $1,760.00 $1,760.00
Optional equipment selected
-FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $37,659.00 $35,138.00

Incentive TypeValueTermExpiry
Cash Incentives
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 April 30, 2011
Dealer Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate - $4,000.00 April 30, 2011

THE DEALER CASH/FACTORY TO DEALER REBATE applies to deliveries between April 1, 2011 and April 30, 2011 and can only be applied to cash purchases. This program can be combined with the currently available 3.79% Smart Finance rates but can not be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates). This rebate is applied to the before tax amount. Please consult your dealer for further details.

NO SECURITY DEPOSIT required on all leases.
Hyundai Canada is currently offering the PETRO GAS GIFT CARD when purchasing a new eligible 2011 model. With this gift card a customer receives a $0.30/litre up to 1,200 litres of savings at a value of $360 when purchasing fuel at Petro Canada. Please consult your dealer for further details.

[vietnutz]

Bought a Sonata 2.0T limited last thursday. $31497 before taxes...pretty much payed apa pre negotiated price. Went in, test drove both the base and turbo motors. Decided on the turbo. Signed paperwork and was out of there within 2hrs. Taking delivery in mid may because white is hard to get. Interest was 0% 60mths, 0.9% 72mths and 1.49% 84mths on 2.0T. Or 0% on 84mths for base engine. Read that 2.0T were 0% on 84mths in march but after booting the car around for 5 min. I didn't really care how much the rate was....its better than kia optima 4.9%, or mitsubishi and subaru 5-7%. Wife can't complain about having trouble passing others on the highway anymore.

[mabujan]

The guy who sold me my car is anxious to get one more car delivered on the weekend. He's already broken the all time record for his dealership for one month. Another RFDer got a deal from him today. At cost.

That was me :-).
Got the Sta Fe 2.4 GL Premium for 379/mth for 84 mths no interest, with the rear spoiler added.
Thanks Paul for the reference !!!!

[mepatrick]

I was looking at the Genesis Coupe 3.8GT.. guess it's not part of their deal :cry:

[bungaboy]

We picked up our Hyundai Accent from the Thornhill dealership last night, in all we saved $880 from the wholesale price and $1989 retail before tax on the total cost of the car using CCC. Overall we are happy with the purchase, car had less than 50KM on it, and the salesman provided very good service. Though we didn't get the free oil changes, he threw in wheel locks without us asking. When the new 2012 Accent comes out, I will consider coming back here to buy.

The gas card was a bonus savings also.

So you are saying you got it for less than CCC wholesale price?

I spoke to my dealer about the Elantra GLS and he would only deduct $200 from RETAIL!!! I have more work to do on him.

Anybody get an Elantra GLS below wholesale?

2012 Elantra's out in June. I might just wait to see them.

[AdmiralButthurt]

How do these Hyundai Canada deals stack up with buying and importing a car from America. Any discernible price differences?

Also, I'm sorta interested in the GL Automatic.. what sort of deal have people been able to get on this car?

[jtplayte]

Hi All,

I am toying with the idea of a new Santa Fe, and might go test drive today.

Just trying to find some information and feedback from those with more experience.

1. How much more per month does the tow package and V6 add? I have a 16 foot fiberglass boat, and a tent trailer.....might upgrade the tent trailer to a real travel trailer down the road....the V6 and tow package can handle 3500 lbs which should do....would be nice to have that future option.

2. Is it worth it to trade in a vehicle? I have a 2003 Mazda MPV minivan with trailer hitch etc. but some rust and broken door handle on sliding door....worth maybe $4000 if selling ? Or just trade it in ? Can you still get 0% for 84 months ?

3. Is AWD worth it ? I live 3 hours North of T.O. and our winters/driving can be bad, but if cost too much, FWD with winter tires should likely do? How much more for AWD? Does it affect your mileage etc. ?

4. Is bluetooth standard on all trims?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

[BBucKK]

Hi All,

I am toying with the idea of a new Santa Fe, and might go test drive today.

Just trying to find some information and feedback from those with more experience.

1. How much more per month does the tow package and V6 add? I have a 16 foot fiberglass boat, and a tent trailer.....might upgrade the tent trailer to a real travel trailer down the road....the V6 and tow package can handle 3500 lbs which should do....would be nice to have that future option.

2. Is it worth it to trade in a vehicle? I have a 2003 Mazda MPV minivan with trailer hitch etc. but some rust and broken door handle on sliding door....worth maybe $4000 if selling ? Or just trade it in ? Can you still get 0% for 84 months ?

3. Is AWD worth it ? I live 3 hours North of T.O. and our winters/driving can be bad, but if cost too much, FWD with winter tires should likely do? How much more for AWD? Does it affect your mileage etc. ?

4. Is bluetooth standard on all trims?

Any help is appreciated. Thanks.

I picked up the Santa Fe with 3.5GL and AWD (basic not sport or limited) and had the tow package put on - you will need 3.5 V6 to tow and I figure in Canada, the AWD is a good idea. They only charged me $500 for tow including wiring. I am paying $433 a month for 84 at 0% with gas card. Likely not a super deal but not too bad.

I think all the Santa Fe have the bluetooth.

Always better to sell privately but also a hassle. You can look here to see what they likely will give you for a trade-in (black book value):

http://www.canadianblackbook.com

[jtplayte]

I picked up the Santa Fe with 3.5GL and AWD (basic not sport or limited) and had the tow package put on - you will need 3.5 V6 to tow and I figure in Canada, the AWD is a good idea. They only charged me $500 for tow including wiring. I am paying $433 a month for 84 at 0% with gas card. Likely not a super deal but not too bad.

I think all the Santa Fe have the bluetooth.

Always better to sell privately but also a hassle. You can look here to see what they likely will give you for a trade-in (black book value):

http://www.canadianblackbook.com

Thank You VERY much for the very informative reply. Exactly what I was looking for.

Take Care.

[iLLNESS]

just remember when you buy a santa fe how hard it will be to find yours amongst the other 150 in the parking lot ;)

i see santa fe's everywhere. just a good note to know, that there will be 0 resale value on a sante fe if you ever do intend to get rid of it. buy it, and drive it till it buys basically.

[supersheik]

Bought a Sonata 2.0T limited last thursday. $31497 before taxes...pretty much payed apa pre negotiated price. Went in, test drove both the base and turbo motors. Decided on the turbo. Signed paperwork and was out of there within 2hrs. Taking delivery in mid may because white is hard to get. Interest was 0% 60mths, 0.9% 72mths and 1.49% 84mths on 2.0T. Or 0% on 84mths for base engine. Read that 2.0T were 0% on 84mths in march but after booting the car around for 5 min. I didn't really care how much the rate was....its better than kia optima 4.9%, or mitsubishi and subaru 5-7%. Wife can't complain about having trouble passing others on the highway anymore.


Congrats! They definetly look really nice with those 18" rims and dual exhaust. I test drove one, but ended up pulling the trigger on the limited 2.4L for around 33k w/ some accessories.

I'm looking to put the clearbra on mine before I start hitting the highways to protect the fenders and hood from rock chips, any chance you are? Anybody else also looking - could do a group buy and get a discount.

[vietnutz]

Congrats! They definetly look really nice with those 18" rims and dual exhaust. I test drove one, but ended up pulling the trigger on the limited 2.4L for around 33k w/ some accessories.

I'm looking to put the clearbra on mine before I start hitting the highways to protect the fenders and hood from rock chips, any chance you are? Anybody else also looking - could do a group buy and get a discount.

Thanks! I will be interested in group buy for clear bra, window tint and rear diffuser.

Congrats on your Sonata as well! Did you get a great price on yours? Afterwards, I started thinking had I tried to push for accesories maybe they would have given. I had my mind set on the colour combo and they said they would have to pull strings so I didn't bother.

[mrmccowcow]

I was looking at the Genesis Coupe 3.8GT.. guess it's not part of their deal :cry:

It was
0% up to 72 months
$3250 cash discount

for the month of april. Incentives will most likely change for May.


How do these Hyundai Canada deals stack up with buying and importing a car from America. Any discernible price differences?

Also, I'm sorta interested in the GL Automatic.. what sort of deal have people been able to get on this car?

We get better incentives than the Americans do. The cars themselves however, are cheaper in the states but there is no warranty if you do import the car.

[Sinoed]

worth maybe $4000 if selling ? Or just trade it in ?

The only benefits you get from trading are the tax savings from the trade in value (I think). I don't know if they still do this but the trade in value used to be deducted off the top of the sale price. That means that if you're offered $2500 you'll save $2500*0.13%=$325 because you won't be paying those taxes on the new vehicle. Other than that financially I think you'll always be better off to sell privately- the dealership's goal is to give you as little as possible for your trade in.

[wukenne]

Does anyone have the full 2011 Elantra Touring GL (Automatic) ccc report? I have only seen the 2010 version or the regular Elantra sedan, but not for the wagon hatchback. I have also seen portions of the report, but not for the full report.

Thanks in advance!

[ssjumbo]

Hi I am contemplating on getting the Elantra GL Auto in a month or so. I was told the admin fee is $400+ on top of the other fees (lic, tire, etc)?? Has anyone here paid that kin of money?? also, I have the CCC report and do not see any incentives for April. Is there a chance of Hyundai to provide incentives or reduce the interest rate in May? Honda Canada has slashed $1500 off on 2011 Civic DXG paving the way for 2012 models in the showroom now. wondering if hyundai will follow suit to some extent? Any info is welcomed. Thanks

[wukenne]

Hi I am contemplating on getting the Elantra GL Auto in a month or so. I was told the admin fee is $400+ on top of the other fees (lic, tire, etc)?? Has anyone here paid that kin of money?? also, I have the CCC report and do not see any incentives for April. Is there a chance of Hyundai to provide incentives or reduce the interest rate in May? Honda Canada has slashed $1500 off on 2011 Civic DXG paving the way for 2012 models in the showroom now. wondering if hyundai will follow suit to some extent? Any info is welcomed. Thanks

If the fee does not show up on the CCC report, then the fee is NOT mandatory and is purely the dealer's way of marking up the vehicle in selling it to you. They'll add stuff like security package, etching fee, admin fee, nitrogen fee etc etc to raise the price up. There isn't much of an incentive for the Elantra sedan as I was told that it selling well unlike the Touring, thus, they have no need to provide addition incentive such as 84 months 0% interest. I was at the dealership trying both out today and didn't get the prices that I wanted. In the end I decided to wait till May and see what new programs come out.

[bwr827]

Re: dealer "admin" fees, just point out that on the Hyundai Canada website, in the fine print, it says that Delivery and Destination (already about $1500) covers all administration fees, not to mention a full tank of gas. Anything the dealer tries to add is just them going for gravy.

On another topic, how soon will the May incentives be announced?

[BBucKK]

I'm thinking the $400 is the "security package" which is etching. The slipped that onto my agreement. when I noticed the next day, I had them remove it. They removed it with no argument. When I took delivery of my Santa Fe, they still included the etching at no charge.

Cheers
BBucKK

[morpheus_1987]

Re: dealer "admin" fees, just point out that on the Hyundai Canada website, in the fine print, it says that Delivery and Destination (already about $1500) covers all administration fees, not to mention a full tank of gas. Anything the dealer tries to add is just them going for gravy.

On another topic, how soon will the May incentives be announced?

I can't seem to find the fine print on Hyundai Canada's site but I can find it for a particular dealer:
http://www.sisleyhyundai.com/news/2011/04/hyundai-double-savings-event-on-now-at-sisley/

Mind pointing out where it is on the Hyundai Canada's site for me? Thanks.

[JJKYLIN]

Mind pointing out where it is on the Hyundai Canada's site for me? Thanks.

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

read those small words under the pictures.

[bwr827]

http://www.hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

read the small words at the end of this page.

Indeed, it's there about halfway down. I originally noticed it on the summary page after doing a build-and-price.

[JJKYLIN]

Does anyone have the full 2011 Elantra Touring GL (Automatic) ccc report? I have only seen the 2010 version or the regular Elantra sedan, but not for the wagon hatchback. I have also seen portions of the report, but not for the full report.

Thanks in advance!

I didn't find any ccc report for Touring in this thread. There was a ccc report for Elantra sedan which got the same MSRP price $20999 with Touring GLS and it's wholesale price is $19772. So I guess it might be $1200 off MSRP price for GLS and around $1100 off for GL.

[JJKYLIN]

I don't know why Touring have no stability control or traction control on it's L and GL trims.
It seems its competitors have these safty features for all the trims. like Toyota Matrix and Kia Forte 5.

Actully, I don't want the other features on Touring GLS except the Stability Control and Traction Control.
Does anybody can tell me how important these features are. Are they critical for safty?

Thanks in advance!

[wmahmud]

Are they giving decent trade in values for cars during this promo?

[ssjumbo]

If the fee does not show up on the CCC report, then the fee is NOT mandatory and is purely the dealer's way of marking up the vehicle in selling it to you. They'll add stuff like security package, etching fee, admin fee, nitrogen fee etc etc to raise the price up. There isn't much of an incentive for the Elantra sedan as I was told that it selling well unlike the Touring, thus, they have no need to provide addition incentive such as 84 months 0% interest. I was at the dealership trying both out today and didn't get the prices that I wanted. In the end I decided to wait till May and see what new programs come out.


Thanks. Probably will also wait till May for any new program. Can anyone tell me what they paid for Elantra GL Auto. OTD? a breakdown of it will be appreciated. Cheers.

[dopestone2k3]

Congrats! They definetly look really nice with those 18" rims and dual exhaust. I test drove one, but ended up pulling the trigger on the limited 2.4L for around 33k w/ some accessories.

I'm looking to put the clearbra on mine before I start hitting the highways to protect the fenders and hood from rock chips, any chance you are? Anybody else also looking - could do a group buy and get a discount.

I'm interested in clearbra as well... does anybody know of a good installer in the Great White North? (Sudbury) I checked the 3M site but the closest installer is still pretty far away!

[Rehan]

I don't know why Touring have no stability control or traction control on it's L and GL trims.
It seems its competitors have these safty features for all the trims. like Toyota Matrix and Kia Forte 5.

Actully, I don't want the other features on Touring GLS except the Stability Control and Traction Control.
Does anybody can tell me how important these features are. Are they critical for safty?

Thanks in advance! Personally, I wouldn't buy a car without those features.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K3m24bjkfg0

[DirtyDog]

I don't know why Touring have no stability control or traction control on it's L and GL trims.
It seems its competitors have these safty features for all the trims. like Toyota Matrix and Kia Forte 5.

Actully, I don't want the other features on Touring GLS except the Stability Control and Traction Control.
Does anybody can tell me how important these features are. Are they critical for safty?

Thanks in advance!
Critical? Well people got by for about a century without them.

Personally, I don't like nanny features but I suppose for the majority of drivers out there they are a better option.

[JJKYLIN]

Thanks Rehan and DirtyDog.

If my vehicle has stability control and traction control, do I still need to change snow tire in winter?

[krypton]

Thanks Rehan and DirtyDog.

If my vehicle has stability control and traction control, do I still need to change snow tire in winter?

Highly recommended, whether you have stability control and traction control or not

[supersheik]

I'm interested in clearbra as well... does anybody know of a good installer in the Great White North? (Sudbury) I checked the 3M site but the closest installer is still pretty far away!

I would check any automotive detailing. Anybody who does tinting may already do it. If you somehow decide to do it in toronto let me know.

[wolverine07]

So you are saying you got it for less than CCC wholesale price?

I spoke to my dealer about the Elantra GLS and he would only deduct $200 from RETAIL!!! I have more work to do on him.

Anybody get an Elantra GLS below wholesale?

2012 Elantra's out in June. I might just wait to see them.

Got it for $885 less before taxes with the $3K factory to dealership cash back rebate that was indicated on the CCC report, I had to ask the dealer for a quote on it in conjunction to the 3.79% financing fro 72 months, and it beat the 0% financing final price for 84 months. The monthly payments were almost the same, just slightly higher but the term of the finance was 1 year shorter. If I could get the same deal for the 2012 Accent, I will get their new 5 door hatchback.

[chimaera15]

Out of curiosity, would it be possible to trade-in a vehicle with a balance owing and still get the 0% financing on the full amount? If I have a vehicle with a $12k balance and it's worth $8k would the $4k balance be financed at 0% as well?

[DirtyDog]

Thanks Rehan and DirtyDog.

If my vehicle has stability control and traction control, do I still need to change snow tire in winter?
Absolutely. You can have all the driving aids in the world but they're not going to be much use if you've got crappy all seasons on in the winter.

[macalin]

The guy who sold me my car is anxious to get one more car delivered on the weekend. He's already broken the all time record for his dealership for one month. Another RFDer got a deal from him today. At cost.

Went in to see the same sales guy last night. He was able to put in a factory order for me for a Sonata Limited in Black at 2% over cost. Ended up 32.9 OTD financed at 0% over 72 months. Wheel locks, rubber mats, mud guards, $300 gas card and two free oil changes were included in the deal. First time buying a car and was quite pleased with the experience. Was in and out of there pretty fast.

[wolverine07]

Went in to see the same sales guy last night. He was able to put in a factory order for me for a Sonata Limited in Black at 2% over cost. Ended up 32.9 OTD financed at 0% over 72 months. Wheel locks, rubber mats, mud guards and two free oil changes were included in the deal. First time buying a car and was quite pleased with the experience. Was in and out of there pretty fast.

Which dealership is this?

[koffey]

Out of curiosity, would it be possible to trade-in a vehicle with a balance owing and still get the 0% financing on the full amount? If I have a vehicle with a $12k balance and it's worth $8k would the $4k balance be financed at 0% as well?

I did something similar a while back. They will take on the cost of the remaining balance on the vehicle, but they will tack it onto the MSRP of what you are planning on getting. Or at least, this is what they done to me.

Say, $10,000 owing, purchase price was $20,000, paid $30,000 for the vehicle. 0% down and 0.9% fiancing.

Hope that helps!

[macalin]

Which dealership is this?

Hyundai of Mississauga

[bwr827]

Looks like 0% for 84 is only available on the Elantra Touring in May. Sonata is now 0% for 72, same as Tucson.

[Spidey]

I think the base model cheapest car would be good for a young person or someone going away for school. With a 5 year warranty no worries except maintenance. Then after the 5 years just sell it.

Wasnt the base accent like $9,999

[JJKYLIN]

just check here for what i paid.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/hot-new-hyundai-promo-0-down-0-interest-84-months-30c-litre-gas-card-1022657/21/

Hey frostiex,
I saw you were looking for some accessories in other thread.
Did you find the right things you wanted?
Here is a website for Hyundai parts and accessories. I think it's really cheap, but I didn't try it yet.

http://www.hyundai-parts.com

[knapper]

Looks like Car Cost Canada has been updated and this month's incentives are not as good as last month. Hyundai's website has not been updated yet, I wonder if they have to honor the gas card and interest rate since they don't mention an end date.

[wolverine07]

Hyundai of Mississauga

We went to Hyundai at Yonge and Steeles. They wouldn't give us any oil changes, we only got the wheel locks. Plus they said they had to find us the correct colour from another dealer, so there was added costs. We are happy since we got it at $885 lower than the Wholesale cost, but oil changes would have had us doing business with them for life.

[knapper]

Went in to see the same sales guy last night. He was able to put in a factory order for me for a Sonata Limited in Black at 2% over cost. Ended up 32.9 OTD financed at 0% over 72 months. Wheel locks, rubber mats, mud guards and two free oil changes were included in the deal. First time buying a car and was quite pleased with the experience. Was in and out of there pretty fast.

Based on the April incentives?

[macalin]

Looks like Car Cost Canada has been updated and this month's incentives are not as good as last month. Hyundai's website has not been updated yet, I wonder if they have to honor the gas card and interest rate since they don't mention an end date.

I think they're still giving away the Gas Cards as I was able to get that yesterday without even asking. Seems the only thing that's changed is the term reduction for the 0% financing to a max of 72 months.


Based on the April incentives?
May incentives

[knapper]

I think they're still giving away the Gas Cards as I was able to get that yesterday without even asking. Seems the only thing that's changed is the term reduction for the 0% financing to a max of 72 months.

Also no cash rebate, and the Smart Finance Rate went up slightly.

With a trade-in (decrease in financed amount), the cash rebate with smart finance rate (3.79% for 72 months) was cheaper than the 0% for 84 months...

[wolverine07]

Was curious, Hyundai still hasn't gotten their pricing for the 2012 models on CCC. Will be interesting if and how much more they are than this past promotion.

[dcabrer]

does anyone have the up to date CCC report for the 2011 elantra touring automatic - L or GL trim? thanks!

[humansoul]

Anyone have some final pricing on an Elantra Touring Sport? Would like to see what people's final purchase was for the top of the line Elantra

[el_pablo]

My GF got an Elentra GL Auto yesterday.

Options and accessories :
- Rubber floor mats
- Cargo tray
- plastic hood protector
- all mud flaps
- Side visors
- Automatic
- Wheel lock nuts

Final cost over 84 months 23 158$ (Incl. Quebec taxes and interest at 3.9%)

Without interest it's around 20K$, I don't have the papers with me.

We took with interest because there was a 2 700$ rebate which made the final price cheaper. I also had a 500$ graduation rebate.

[wolfboy]

My GF got an Elentra GL Auto yesterday.

Options and accessories :
- Rubber floor mats
- Cargo tray
- plastic hood protector
- all mud flaps
- Side visors
- Automatic
- Wheel lock nuts

Final cost over 84 months 23 158$ (Incl. Quebec taxes and interest at 3.9%)

Without interest it's around 20K$, I don't have the papers with me.

We took with interest because there was a 2 700$ rebate which made the final price cheaper. I also had a 500$ graduation rebate.

I have heard of other people getting the $2700.00 rebate. Did the salesman tell you about it up front or did you ask him about it?

[knapper]

EDIT - was mistaken

[edgarm]

Anyone know how the 30 cents off gas card works?
Is it restricted to particular gas stations?
Is there an upper limit (no longer effective after x liters)?

I drive 200km per day, it would actually save me a lot of money. Thanks!

[Rehan]

Car cost is showing a $4,500 rebate. That's on the Elantra GL? Do you know if it's for auto only, or 6-spd also?

[Rehan]

Anyone know how the 30 cents off gas card works?
Is it restricted to particular gas stations?
Is there an upper limit (no longer effective after x liters)?

I drive 200km per day, it would actually save me a lot of money. Thanks! Details are in the fine print at http://hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx ... Valid at Petro Canada, limit of 1000 L or 1200 L depending on the model you purchase.

[knapper]

That's on the Elantra GL? Do you know if it's for auto only, or 6-spd also?

Sorry - was looking at the 2010... Forget it.

[Rehan]

Sorry - was looking at the 2010... Forget it. LOL. No wonder it was such a big discount. :)

[knapper]

LOL. No wonder it was such a big discount. :)

Yeah, I was using an old query from last year.

[el_pablo]

I have heard of other people getting the $2700.00 rebate. Did the salesman tell you about it up front or did you ask him about it?

I asked him if there was any deal if I didn't took the 0% interest deal.

[pete]

has anyone been able to get a good deal out of any of the dealerships in the Montreal area (preferably in the West Island/Vaudreuil dealerships)? Looking at the Sante Fe and Tucson...

[t0r0nt0]

Touring Sport Edition
Just took a test drive of the Touring sport edition (no highway - just regular roads - busy city block).
- very basic drive
- noisy interior
- hard suspension
- seemed to be a "heavy" ride
- slow pick up (underpowered engine?)
- brakes seemed a bit underperforming for this weight vehicle (especially for 4-wheel disc brakes)

I'm not a spirited driver, but going up a slight hill I could feel the engine pushing itself. I could only imagine what it would be like with four people and some luggage and the A/C on . . . I'm thinking that this will decrease the life of the engine, but I'm no expert.

The fit/finish on the car seemed to be very good. Visibility was great for the driver. Driver's room could accommodate tall persons. Value of the car is excellent.

Sonata Limited Edition
- nice looking exterior - it has good presence
- smooth transmission on gear changes
- plenty of power
- not as quiet (or refined) as an Accord, but very close
- instrument panel and surrounding area is kind of ugly, but this is a minor point
- trunk space seems just as big as my 98 Accord
- seems heavier than my nimble Accord, even with the extra 50 horses
- smaller windows that reduced visibility - tougher for smaller drivers, especially when in reverse

I currently drive a 98 Accord so it may be an unfair comparison with the Touring or the Sonata. These are just some first impressions so they are by no means comprehensive. Hope this helps somebody in their decision.

Personally, I would shell out a few more bucks and go for the Sonata. The salesman said Hyundai is the only automaker that pays for labour in the first 4 or 5 years. Not sure what he meant by that, but maybe it explains why some owners said they paid less than $1K of maintenance in their first 4-5 years of owning a Hyundai. I paid over $1K on maintenance on my Accord in the first 18 months.

[herekittykitty]

As someone else recommended I would also recommend Melissa at Mississauga Hyundai. She was great - even brought us a couple slices of pizza as I said we were hungry.

[dorakk]

I'm thinking of buying the 2011 Elantra GL Auto in the next 2 weeks, just a few questions:

1) Is the $3000 factory to dealer rebate no longer available?
2) What is the expiry date of the 0% finance rate?
3) Beside Melissa @ Missisaugua, any GTA dealer to recommend?
4) Will be great if someone can share a recently close deal of this car so that I can get an idea what's the "real" price is like.

Thanks in advanced.

[bungaboy]

I'm thinking of buying the 2011 Elantra GL Auto in the next 2 weeks, just a few questions:

1) Is the $3000 factory to dealer rebate no longer available?
2) What is the expiry date of the 0% finance rate?
3) Beside Melissa @ Missisaugua, any GTA dealer to recommend?
4) Will be great if someone can share a recently close deal of this car so that I can get an idea what's the "real" price is like.

Thanks in advanced.

I don't think the $3000 applied to the Elantra.

[mikewo]

I'm looking to get a 6spd base Sonota. I've got $4500 to put down. Does anyone know if there are factory incentives I should be looking for? Should I be able to get a better price than listed online? I'm in Cambridge, but will drive to get a better deal. I work in TO so I could even get it serviced there all the time.

[knapper]

I'm looking to get a 6spd base Sonota. I've got $4500 to put down. Does anyone know if there are factory incentives I should be looking for? Should I be able to get a better price than listed online? I'm in Cambridge, but will drive to get a better deal. I work in TO so I could even get it serviced there all the time.

0% finance for 72 months on GL and GLS Sonatas
$3,000 factory to dealer on cash deal on GL Automatic (not manual) and GLS
You can get the $3,000 off and finance at 3.9% for 72 months
Markup is approximately $1,600 on wholesale

With your down payment the difference between the GL manual @ 0% and the GL auto @ 3.9% and $3,000 off are closer than you may think. Here are some quick estimates:

GL manual
$23,196 ($500 above wholesale, including freight and A/C tax)
+$3,015 (HST)
-$4,500 (down payment)
=$21,711
=$301.55/month (0% for 72 months)

GL auto
$24,681 ($500 above wholesale, including freight and A/C tax)
-$3,000 (cashback)
=$21,681
+$2,818.53 (HST)
-$4,500 (down payment)
=$19,999.53
=$311.99/month (3.9% for 72 months - total payments = $22,462.98)

So the difference over the course of 72 months is only $750.

[thrifthunter]

Personally, I would shell out a few more bucks and go for the Sonata. The salesman said Hyundai is the only automaker that pays for labour in the first 4 or 5 years. Not sure what he meant by that, but maybe it explains why some owners said they paid less than $1K of maintenance in their first 4-5 years of owning a Hyundai. I paid over $1K on maintenance on my Accord in the first 18 months.

Accord >>>>>>>> Sonata

[hprockets]

Accord >>>>>>>> Sonata

BMW >>>>>>>>>> Accord

[Damed]

Accord >>>>>>>> Sonata

Or not.

http://www.carcomplaints.com/worst_vehicles/

[Albertan]

Sonata>>>>>>>> Accord

You're chinese, I bet. Also, I fixed your post.

[guy_uoft]

You're chinese, I bet. Also, I fixed your post.

wtf lol, that's the dumbest thing I've ever heard...

[jimmyzaas]

Touring Sport Edition
- noisy interior

Sonata Limited Edition
- not as quiet (or refined) as an Accord, but very close


I noticed Hyundai cars in general are noisier. The Accent is really noisy. Sonata is slightly noisier than an Accord. The power response seems great though. What worries me in particular is electronics failure. In two of my test drives in two different Sonata 2011s, the first one has a faulty media player (no radio, mp3, cd etc). The thing won't light up. Now I'm assuming when you are trying to sell a car, you cherry pick the very best one that has everything working. The second vehicle had faulty signalling. When I signal left and turn the signal off, it continues to blink signal left. I switch it to signal right and it switches to signal right but again, I can't get the signal to turn off. It took several tries to get the thing to turn off. It makes you think because at the time, Sonata was only roughly $1000 less than an Accord.

Anyway going back to the noise issue, I own an Accord 2011 (imo the "safe" option). Road noise isn't the real concern, it's something else. The A/C fan has chirping bearing noise even on low setting. The Windows don't seem to be as airtight as my 2004 accord, so on highways I can hear air leak. I don't think I've ever had this before.

I know you can get an Audi, Acura, etc and be done with the noise.. but it's not the same class of vehicle. I've test driven the new Chevy Malibu recently and I was shocked at how much more quieter this car is compared to my Accord! It handles well too! If noise is one of your criteria for choosing a car, I would suggest test driving a Malibu just to compare.

[bungaboy]

Accord >>>>>>>> Sonata

This adds nothing of value to this HYUNDAI thread.

Start your own thread.

[bungaboy]

BMW >>>>>>>>>> Accord

Start your own thread willya? This one is about HYUNDAI

[bungaboy]

You're chinese, I bet. Also, I fixed your post.

It shows the location and Newfoundland and Labrador. What does Chinese have to do with this thread?

Are you really an Albertan or an immigrant to Alberta?

[adobomb]

came to the same conclusion as you did when comparing both these vehicles, but I took the sonata 2.0T out for a spin, loved it.


Touring Sport Edition
Just took a test drive of the Touring sport edition (no highway - just regular roads - busy city block).
- very basic drive
- noisy interior
- hard suspension
- seemed to be a "heavy" ride
- slow pick up (underpowered engine?)
- brakes seemed a bit underperforming for this weight vehicle (especially for 4-wheel disc brakes)

I'm not a spirited driver, but going up a slight hill I could feel the engine pushing itself. I could only imagine what it would be like with four people and some luggage and the A/C on . . . I'm thinking that this will decrease the life of the engine, but I'm no expert.

The fit/finish on the car seemed to be very good. Visibility was great for the driver. Driver's room could accommodate tall persons. Value of the car is excellent.

Sonata Limited Edition
- nice looking exterior - it has good presence
- smooth transmission on gear changes
- plenty of power
- not as quiet (or refined) as an Accord, but very close
- instrument panel and surrounding area is kind of ugly, but this is a minor point
- trunk space seems just as big as my 98 Accord
- seems heavier than my nimble Accord, even with the extra 50 horses
- smaller windows that reduced visibility - tougher for smaller drivers, especially when in reverse

I currently drive a 98 Accord so it may be an unfair comparison with the Touring or the Sonata. These are just some first impressions so they are by no means comprehensive. Hope this helps somebody in their decision.

Personally, I would shell out a few more bucks and go for the Sonata. The salesman said Hyundai is the only automaker that pays for labour in the first 4 or 5 years. Not sure what he meant by that, but maybe it explains why some owners said they paid less than $1K of maintenance in their first 4-5 years of owning a Hyundai. I paid over $1K on maintenance on my Accord in the first 18 months.

[TorontoEh]

I noticed Hyundai cars in general are noisier. The Accent is really noisy. Sonata is slightly noisier than an Accord. The power response seems great though. What worries me in particular is electronics failure. In two of my test drives in two different Sonata 2011s, the first one has a faulty media player (no radio, mp3, cd etc). The thing won't light up. Now I'm assuming when you are trying to sell a car, you cherry pick the very best one that has everything working. The second vehicle had faulty signalling. When I signal left and turn the signal off, it continues to blink signal left. I switch it to signal right and it switches to signal right but again, I can't get the signal to turn off. It took several tries to get the thing to turn off. It makes you think because at the time, Sonata was only roughly $1000 less than an Accord.

Anyway going back to the noise issue, I own an Accord 2011 (imo the "safe" option). Road noise isn't the real concern, it's something else. The A/C fan has chirping bearing noise even on low setting. The Windows don't seem to be as airtight as my 2004 accord, so on highways I can hear air leak. I don't think I've ever had this before.

I know you can get an Audi, Acura, etc and be done with the noise.. but it's not the same class of vehicle. I've test driven the new Chevy Malibu recently and I was shocked at how much more quieter this car is compared to my Accord! It handles well too! If noise is one of your criteria for choosing a car, I would suggest test driving a Malibu just to compare.


Thanks JIMMYZAAS for the userful writeup. I was wondering if you had any experience driving the 2011 Elantra as I really love the new styling and have friends who test drove and love the handling of the car. I myself is shopping in b/w 2011 Civic or a Corolla but don't mind this if the price is right.

[Super strokey]

I personally would say avoid Hyundai right now, ive hard a 2007 and a 2010 Santa Fe, both loaded, and ive noticed a considerable droping in quality between them. This Santa Fe has been in the shop abotu 12 times since august. 3 times to replace the radio, 2 times to replace the blue tooth, 2 times to repair rust and 1 more time coming up still and some other things. Talked to both corporate and the go auto dealerships here in Edmonton (never buy from them, nothing mroe than a hassle) and both refuse to do anything about my car. The service on both ends has been just brutal once i started to push abotu being unhappy with the car (the people in service were actually excellent but the management... not so much).

Now my transmission is starting to go as well and they are pretty much doing NOTHING other than to say "wait for it to break then call us" which is the same damn thing they said about the rust on the Santa Fe. ALl of this happening on a 14k km vehicle is unacceptable and is just brutal.

[wolverine07]

For those that bought a car this Apr, that .30 Petro gas card is really coming in handy today. That was some crazy jump overnight, 6 cents.

[danfromwaterloo]

I personally would say avoid Hyundai right now, ive hard a 2007 and a 2010 Santa Fe, both loaded, and ive noticed a considerable droping in quality between them. This Santa Fe has been in the shop abotu 12 times since august. 3 times to replace the radio, 2 times to replace the blue tooth, 2 times to repair rust and 1 more time coming up still and some other things. Talked to both corporate and the go auto dealerships here in Edmonton (never buy from them, nothing mroe than a hassle) and both refuse to do anything about my car. The service on both ends has been just brutal once i started to push abotu being unhappy with the car (the people in service were actually excellent but the management... not so much).

Now my transmission is starting to go as well and they are pretty much doing NOTHING other than to say "wait for it to break then call us" which is the same damn thing they said about the rust on the Santa Fe. ALl of this happening on a 14k km vehicle is unacceptable and is just brutal.

Sounds like you just got a bum dealership. Our 2007 Santa Fe is pretty good. We've had the ball joints replaced, but that's it.

[bungaboy]

We evaluated 2012 Ford Focus, 2012 Honda Civic, 2011 Toyota Corolla, 2011 Hyundai Sonata and 2011 Hyundai Elantra.

After a lot of research, reading, discussion, inspection, etc we chose the 2011 Hyundai Sonata.

We are quite happy with it.

We still have our 2004 Snata Fe AWD, we bought in December 2003, with no major issues.

[jimmyzaas]

Thanks JIMMYZAAS for the userful writeup. I was wondering if you had any experience driving the 2011 Elantra as I really love the new styling and have friends who test drove and love the handling of the car. I myself is shopping in b/w 2011 Civic or a Corolla but don't mind this if the price is right.

Actually, we did test drive the 2011 Elantra in January and the interior for one is far and beyond what the Honda had on shelf with the Civic (not 2012). The handling is fantastic and I would say it's pretty much like driving a 2010 Mazda 3 (which btw, is sheer joy) but with less noise. Styling is another obvious bonus. However, questionable electronics reliability (from my Sonata demo experience) really pushed me away from Hyundai. When SUPER STROKEY mentioned about radio and bluetooth repairs, somehow I believe him. That being said, the demo 2011 Elantra had no issues.

Personally, I looked (not driven though) at the Civic 2012 while getting an oil change, and the back light looks like the old style camry (ie. ugly). Don't even get me started on Corolla (heh). If you don't mind the looks, for sure they are reputable and should do you well in the long run. Elantra is a worthwhile gamble. My reasoning is Hyundai is really pushing for this market and should be doing their best work on vehicles already and for the next few years to establish themselves as a leading auto manufacturer. However, so are many others like GM with their Chevy Cruze and some new Fords. I didn't take the gamble for the reason mentioned above, and because the symbol doesn't look as good as the Honda H (LOL).

[Super strokey]

Sounds like you just got a bum dealership. Our 2007 Santa Fe is pretty good. We've had the ball joints replaced, but that's it.

definately could be that, it should be state that our 2007 was bullet proof as well. Only had 1 issue with it ever (they replaced the radio). Hyundai corporate didnt want to do anything either and to be honest i dont blame them as the dealership didnt submit any info to them on all the issues and their records show that it has been in 3 times only. Obviously corporate cant do anything with that little amount of info so i really dont blame them but I certainly will never ever buy from the GO Auto dealership group again... likely never a hyundai either.

[Centauri]

Super Strokey, a friend bought a vehicle from Southtown in Edmonton last month he said the sales department sucked big time with empty promises, but the service department was great. I hope he doesn't have the problems you have had.

[Super strokey]

Super Strokey, a friend bought a vehicle from Southtown in Edmonton last month he said the sales department sucked big time with empty promises, but the service department was great. I hope he doesn't have the problems you have had.

I hope not too, just so that he knows there is a return policy with go auto of 90 days i think if they have issues right out of the gate (he should call to confirm, as i am not sure if this is true). Service departments are nothing but awesome though at nearly any dealership. They pick up the BS that the liars up front drop off. I have 0 issues with the folks in service, the rest... well look at it this way, its a huge chain of dealerships that done give one damn thing about you as they think they can just move one to the next one and i suppose they are right. Well i can tell you i wont be buying from Go Auto again, i was going to get a new car this summer as a treat to myself, ive decided the old one can last a bit more now. The Wife wanted a Veracruz when the third baby comes in a few years, well scratch that too. Same goes for her sister (wanted a veracruz too actually till all this) and my folks wanted to get a small SUV but they wont be going to go auto either (my mom likes the edge a fair bit, and in all honesty so do I).

I really should be saying dont buy a Hyundai as its really not fair to judge a vehicle brand off of 1 car, i realize that. Ive been a bit harsh with them and i should kinda retract it. I will however give say NOTHING positive about my experience with Go Auto other than to say that the service departments have been pretty stellar to deal with. Live and learn i guess. I hope you all can learn from my experience there.

A good experience with buying a car was with the ford dealership in innisfail though, the wife and I got it as our first car years and years ago. To this day they still treat us with respect which is odd as they never see us, however my wifes Grandma buys a new SUV in cash every year so that might be why lol.

Cheers gentlemen.

[cannon_fodder]

As far as the gas card it can be used for ANY car you (or a friend) own. Just restricted to Petro Canada. The pump shows the regular price but your receipt shows the discount.

[wolverine07]

As far as the gas card it can be used for ANY car you (or a friend) own. Just restricted to Petro Canada. The pump shows the regular price but your receipt shows the discount.

Yes this is true, we lent out the gas card to a family member that drives a van across Toronto daily to work. The Accent is fuel efficient enough, it was nice to fill up half a tank and the cost has not been more than $15 since we had the card. Good for 1000 litres, wonder how long it will last.

[jcdogg]

Are the new accents coming out next month?

[runeash]

Anybody got good deal on 2011 sonata hybrid?

[pete]

have people been taking the extended warranty? for $1800 seems pretty good to take the 7 yr option with the Santa Fe no? labour etc all included?

in general, how much are people getting the Santa Fe off of the MRSP?

[wolverine07]

have people been taking the extended warranty? for $1800 seems pretty good to take the 7 yr option with the Santa Fe no? labour etc all included?

in general, how much are people getting the Santa Fe off of the MRSP?

If I remember the warranty correctly some aspects of if covered over 5 years anyway, we declined, 5 years is more than sufficient. I will say I wish we got the side visors, the hyundai floor mats we got 10% off and they are made specifically for each model are cool.

[ultimate]

I am Just amazed at Hyundai their quality is just as good as any japanese manufacturer and they are way cheaper!! I can't believe it.

[TheRed]

Yeah how many % were you guys able to take off the MSRPs of your new Hyundais?

Im hoping for a 20% off msrps like you can do with the Honda Civics.

[cannon_fodder]

We got our Santa Fe at wholesale price plus $200 of accessories thrown in and 0% financing.

[anyt]

are there any rebates for cash payment?

[greedyemu]

Got the Elantra Touring GLS Automatic for $24,900 at 0% for 84, WITH 7 year 120k warranty included. Payments are ~$289/mo

Accessories: mud flaps, floor mats, heated seats, bluetooth, trunk cover, nitro, etching.

Went to Abbotsford Hyundai after dealing with the clowns at Vancouver and Richmond that wouldn't touch anything below MSRP, and who wanted to charge us for mudflaps and accessories we never agreed to purchase.

The salesman (Brad) was no-nonsense, pretty straightforward guy to deal with, Abbotsford is a good place to go.

[bernardma]

Anybody have recommendations for which dealership to go to around the GTA? Has anyone tried using a CCC report in Toronto? Seems Toronto dealers are scummier than other places...

[CSIFan29]

Anybody have recommendations for which dealership to go to around the GTA? Has anyone tried using a CCC report in Toronto? Seems Toronto dealers are scummier than other places...

It doesn't seem like it, they are...

How come no 0% on the Elantra or even cash discount?

[Supercooled]

Regarding the gas card, you simply present it to the gas attendee and they discount you on the spot? Seems pretty good to me. Sucks they don't offer it on either the Genesis sedan or coupe since they both guzz!

I read even the 2.0t Genesis is almost as bad as its 3.8litre counterpart.

[dreaderus]

perhaps im reading it wrong the genesis cars don't appear to guzzle gas on paper is this misleading?

[hector07]

How come no 0% on the Elantra or even cash discount?

I heard they are selling very well, no incentives are needed.

[wolverine07]

I'm curious has anyone tried the Hyundai Scratch pens? Someone ran their shopping cart on our driver side mirror of our new Black Accent this weekend, tiny scratch or sliver of white on the mirror.

[polypep]

I'm curious has anyone tried the Hyundai Scratch pens? Someone ran their shopping cart on our driver side mirror of our new Black Accent this weekend, tiny scratch or sliver of white on the mirror.

That sucks. I have always had touch paint pens for all of my cars. Can tell you that these are only good for spots that are not easily visible as the final finish is very obvious. However, you can use it anywhere you want. If the scratch is on an area that can be easily noticed, do couple of coats of paints (one coat a day), clear coat it (if included in the pen) let it dry for a few days and then polish with a power orbital polisher(not random orbit polisher). Use high quality product like Meguiar's® Scratch X or Ultimate Compound if the scratch is light. But if deep use a paint pen and after drying, use Ultimate Compound followed by Power polish.

Always worked for me.

[wolverine07]

That sucks. I have always had touch paint pens for all of my cars. Can tell you that these are only good for spots that are not easily visible as the final finish is very obvious. However, you can use it anywhere you want. If the scratch is on an area that can be easily noticed, do couple of coats of paints (one coat a day), clear coat it (if included in the pen) let it dry for a few days and then polish with a power orbital polisher(not random orbit polisher). Use high quality product like Meguiar's® Scratch X or Ultimate Compound if the scratch is light. But if deep use a paint pen and after drying, use Ultimate Compound followed by Power polish.

Always worked for me.

Yeah it does, my other car a 9 yr old vet was scratched within 2 weeks of it being driven out of the dealer lot by someone opening the door in a lot leaving 3 tiny scratches in the passenger side door. It's unbelievable how quickly a new car can get scratched. I know it's only $10 for a Hyundai scratch pen, sounds like an inexpensive solution. Thanks!

[bernardma]

Can anyone look up the CCC report for a 2011 Elantra Touring Auto GL? Thanks! :)

[GreyingJay]

Any good experiences at any dealers in Ottawa?

[Sinoed]

Anybody have recommendations for which dealership to go to around the GTA? Has anyone tried using a CCC report in Toronto? Seems Toronto dealers are scummier than other places...

I haven't purchased from them but some of my family members have bought vehicles from the Hyundai dealer on Queen near Kennedy in Brampton (Attrell Hyundai?). They have had good experiences - maybe try there?

[bernardma]

I was referred by a fellow RFDer to Brian Tan at Hyundai of Mississauga. We had a few pleasant words over the phone, and we arrived at quite a nice offer. Although I think I'll sit out this time around, I recommend him very highly based on his demeanor and the deal we arrived at.

[Pakito98]

will the sonata 2.0t go back up to 0% for 72 months or 84? or will it stick at 60 till promotion over?

my next day off thinking of heading to hyundai dealership in edmonton to test drive one.

[andreaplants]

They are definitely doing cash price vs 0% - basically you would have to take more than 4 years to pay it back to equal the interest you'd pay at 3.9%. Said another way, if you pay it off at 3.9% somewhere between year 4 and year 5, you are paying the exact same amount as you would pay to buy the car and finance it at 0%.

So you can save money in the end by doing 3.9% and paying it off as soon as possible.

Frustrating with the allure of 0% (aka free money)

[actionj]

Anybody recommend a good dealer in the GVRD area? Asking for a friend who lives in Surrey looking to buy a Tucson. Thanks.

[andreaplants]

sorry actionj - no idea - I hope to post soon, so far very happy with Brian Tan at Hyundai of Mississauga

Quick question -

If you keep your own plates and put them on your new vehicle, how much does it cost? I can't find it easily online

Thanks!

[Pakito98]

sorry actionj - no idea - I hope to post soon, so far very happy with Brian Tan at Hyundai of Mississauga

Quick question -

If you keep your own plates and put them on your new vehicle, how much does it cost? I can't find it easily online

Thanks!

i know in alberta transfer plate is something around $24 i could be wrong

[blurtonia]

So, I've officially decided to buy a Sonata GLS in Toronto, and I'm trying to get in touch with dealers to get a good price. Does anyone have any recommendations on dealers to chat with? (I've emailed Ting and Brian Tan but have not heard from either of them yet).

If you can help (or if you're a dealer), please PM me, or better yet, write me at robertcarsearch2011@hotmail.com.

[magicsteven]

Can Anyone provide a Car Cost Canada report for a Santa Fe 3.5 GL AWD? I'll appreciate. Thanks.

[magicsteven]

Did anybody get the OTD price for the SANTA FE 2.4 GL PREMIUM AWD?
MSRP:29699.

[bernardma]

So, I've officially decided to buy a Sonata GLS in Toronto, and I'm trying to get in touch with dealers to get a good price. Does anyone have any recommendations on dealers to chat with? (I've emailed Ting and Brian Tan but have not heard from either of them yet).

If you can help (or if you're a dealer), please PM me, or better yet, write me at robertcarsearch2011@hotmail.com.

Give BTan a call instead at 416 881-3992.

[ygtgxi]

will the sonata 2.0t go back up to 0% for 72 months or 84? or will it stick at 60 till promotion over?

my next day off thinking of heading to hyundai dealership in edmonton to test drive one.

defintly will not go back up to 0%. 2.0T had a promotion in march for 0% 84 months, car was oversold and instantly that was gone in april. 2.0T base automatics are defintly done now, what is left is what is left, car cannot be factory ordered anymore. Dealers refuse to give it up for dealer trade too. 2.0Ts in any model is hard to come by, sonata 2.4L limited with nav is sold out almost everywhere, sonata 2.4 limited is 95% done, only a handful is left, again they cannot be ordered.

[andreaplants]

OK it's official - Brian Tan is the best. He's not weird, shady, dishonest, sneaky, - just straight up best price, best deal, honest, super nice guy. Didn't know car salespeople could be normal - he is awesome. Thank you for the referrals from this board - he gave us a great price and great service - he's tech savvy, he understands that time is at a premium - I hope we don't have to buy cars again for a long long time, but I hope we can go back to him again when the time comes.

Brian Tan - Hyundai of Mississauga - his contact info is in this thread or just call hyundai of mississauga and ask for him.

905-828-5923
2450 Motorway Blvd.
Mississauga, ON
L5L 1X3

We get nothing from this referral - we don't even live near Mississauga - we've just been through the (two) car search/buying experience everywhere from Niagara to Brampton (and Toronto by email quotes) and he's the absolute winner.

[CSIFan29]

What are you guys getting for pricing? Anyone beat wholesale + 3%? Looking at the Elantra.

[bibowski]

Oh man I'd LOVE a 'new' car. I've bought second hand my whole life.

The Elantra Touring is functional AND is awesome to drive (I test drove 2 years ago) but the base model is AWFUL. But upgrading to the next Automatic model up starts to really add onto the price. That's how they get you, by not including stuff like A/C, ABS, ESC, etc. on the base models. Pretty cheeky on their part.

[evanx]

OK it's official - Brian Tan is the best. He's not weird, shady, dishonest, sneaky, - just straight up best price, best deal, honest, super nice guy. Didn't know car salespeople could be normal - he is awesome. Thank you for the referrals from this board - he gave us a great price and great service - he's tech savvy, he understands that time is at a premium - I hope we don't have to buy cars again for a long long time, but I hope we can go back to him again when the time comes.

Brian Tan - Hyundai of Mississauga - his contact info is in this thread or just call hyundai of mississauga and ask for him.

905-828-5923
2450 Motorway Blvd.
Mississauga, ON
L5L 1X3

We get nothing from this referral - we don't even live near Mississauga - we've just been through the (two) car search/buying experience everywhere from Niagara to Brampton (and Toronto by email quotes) and he's the absolute winner.

I dealt with him as well and got a very favourable experience. I don't know if he offers the lowest prices, but at least I didn't get any BS and he was upfront and courteous.

[cannon_fodder]

OK it's official - Brian Tan is the best. He's not weird, shady, dishonest, sneaky, - just straight up best price, best deal, honest, super nice guy. Didn't know car salespeople could be normal - he is awesome. Thank you for the referrals from this board - he gave us a great price and great service - he's tech savvy, he understands that time is at a premium - I hope we don't have to buy cars again for a long long time, but I hope we can go back to him again when the time comes.

Brian Tan - Hyundai of Mississauga - his contact info is in this thread or just call hyundai of mississauga and ask for him.

905-828-5923
2450 Motorway Blvd.
Mississauga, ON
L5L 1X3

We get nothing from this referral - we don't even live near Mississauga - we've just been through the (two) car search/buying experience everywhere from Niagara to Brampton (and Toronto by email quotes) and he's the absolute winner.

Glad to hear your mess was resolved by Brian. I think I'm the original referrer for Brian and I, too, get nothing from it. Except helping RFDers and Brian win-win.

[pete]

Looks like I'll be getting the Santa Fe premium FWD with about $1500 accessories for about $87 a week. I have a $2000 trade in. it's an okay price.. nothing special, should be better according to Carcost, but the dealers here in Quebec don't care... one was just brutal, while the other was upfront and gave me an honest price.

[mrmccowcow]

What are you guys getting for pricing? Anyone beat wholesale + 3%? Looking at the Elantra.

Shop around as many dealers can do alot lower than wholesale+3%. I got my car for $300 over wholesale.

[canehdianman]

Hi,

I've got a few questions regarding Hyundais:

1) Given the current deals (0%) expire today, what sort of promos will there be for June?

2) When will the 2012 limited sonatas be out? 2.0T?

[joelones]

Can anyone recommend a dealer in the greater montreal area?

[silver09]

Thanks. Updated the OP

Hello Every1:

Please recommend the best dealer for Hyundai Tuscon GLS 2011 in GTA who can give generous discount, it is kind of urgent as thinking to buy this wkend

Thanks a lot

[kenchau]

Hello Every1:

Please recommend the best dealer for Hyundai Tuscon GLS 2011 in GTA who can give generous discount, it is kind of urgent as thinking to buy this wkend

Thanks a lot

Perhaps read just a few posts above your's. And he's located in Mississauga too.

[GreyingJay]

So can anyone confirm what the incentives are for June? Is this still on? The Hyundai website link (see OP) still works and still shows this promo, but I can't tell yet if it's still on or just hasn't been updated yet.

I've had my heart set on a Ford Escape for many years based on aesthetics and specifications alone, but when I finally test drove one this week, I feel like it's too truckish for my liking. The Nissan Rogue I tried was much more comfortable but too small. The Hyundai Tucson is next on my list to try.

Edit: the ad in my local newspaper still looks the same, though it adds a headline about the 2011 Accents being cleared out.

[CSIFan29]

So can anyone confirm what the incentives are for June? Is this still on? The Hyundai website link (see OP) still works and still shows this promo, but I can't tell yet if it's still on or just hasn't been updated yet.

I've had my heart set on a Ford Escape for many years based on aesthetics and specifications alone, but when I finally test drove one this week, I feel like it's too truckish for my liking. The Nissan Rogue I tried was much more comfortable but too small. The Hyundai Tucson is next on my list to try.

Edit: the ad in my local newspaper still looks the same, though it adds a headline about the 2011 Accents being cleared out.

Check the build and price.

[silver09]

Check the build and price.

Unfortunately Erin Hyundai as recommended by few in this blog are not that straight forward as they pose. I had spent several hours with their sales person and Manager but their price is beaten by other dealer, Cooksville Hyundai...Great service. Erin Hyundai being run by ignorants as they even do not know the true MPG and insists on fictitious numbers for Tuscon 40MPG unbelieveable..US EPA agency and cars.com did research and it is only 28mpg on highway. Besides, they lie abou the built in features and offer test drive in the vehicle modified with after market items.Discovery: Car cost quote is not the final dealer price it was found that dealers are still making money through some other tactics and could sell below car cost..

[Rehan]

Unfortunately Erin Hyundai as recommended by few in this blog are not that straight forward as they pose. I had spent several hours with their sales person and Manager but their price is beaten by other dealer, Cooksville Hyundai...Great service. Erin Hyundai being run by ignorants as they even do not know the true MPG and insists on fictitious numbers for Tuscon 40MPG unbelieveable..US EPA agency and cars.com did research and it is only 28mpg on highway. Besides, they lie abou the built in features and offer test drive in the vehicle modified with after market items.Discovery: Car cost quote is not the final dealer price it was found that dealers are still making money through some other tactics and could sell below car cost.. 1) "Erin Hyundai"? You mean Hyundai of Mississauga ?
2) What blog?!
3) We're in Canada, so manufacturers use either L/100km (most common) or imperial MPG. The Tucson automatic transmission is specified in Canada as 6.5 L/100km, which is 43 imperial MPG. It does take advantage of people who don't know any better, but I've seen many other dealers do the same thing.

[silver09]

1.Hyundai Mississauga
2.Thanks for reminding me that we are in Canada. He clearly mention MPG thats why I asked clearly but they did not differentiate bw US amd IMP MPG however insisted on his version I do not want to name the sales person.
3.Blog is Hyundai promo current blog....where we are ....if I m not sleeping:)

[champdood]

1) "Erin Hyundai"? You mean Hyundai of Mississauga ?
2) What blog?!
3) We're in Canada, so manufacturers use either L/100km (most common) or imperial MPG. The Tucson automatic transmission is specified in Canada as 6.5 L/100km, which is 43 imperial MPG. It does take advantage of people who don't know any better, but I've seen many other dealers do the same thing.

EPA put it at 31mpg on the highway for the smallest engine, which is 37mpg and about 7.6 L/100km (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2011_Hyundai_Tucson.shtml)

Hyundai claim 6.3 for the 2.4L (http://hyundaicanada.com/pages/showroom/Specifications.aspx?model=TUCSON). There's some definite fudging of the numbers being done on Hyundai's part and that dealer isn't exactly being honest. They either know nothing about the car or are purposely using the most favourable number they can find. Either way, I wouldn't buy from them.

[Debonair]

waiting on 0% financing on the new elantra... then I'll think about it :)

[Rehan]

EPA put it at 31mpg on the highway for the smallest engine, which is 37mpg and about 7.6 L/100km (http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/bymodel/2011_Hyundai_Tucson.shtml)

Hyundai claim 6.3 for the 2.4L (http://hyundaicanada.com/pages/showroom/Specifications.aspx?model=TUCSON). There's some definite fudging of the numbers being done on Hyundai's part and that dealer isn't exactly being honest. They either know nothing about the car or are purposely using the most favourable number they can find. Either way, I wouldn't buy from them. I think silver09 was referring to the AWD version, which is 7.1 L/100km according to Hyundai and that's 40 mpg. It's not Hyundai doing the fudging, it's just the way fuel economy is calculated in Canada. For example, the 2011 Ford Fiesta is rated by Ford Canada as 5.3 L/100km on the highway, while Ford USA says 38 US mpg (6.2 L/100km). 2011 Toyota Corolla is 5.7 L/100km in Canada and 34 US mpg (6.9 L/100km) in the US...and http://www.toyota.ca/toyota/en/vehicles/corolla/specifications/capacity shows the imperial MPG along with the other units.

You can go through this comparison with any make & model. The problem is not really with the manufacturers or dealerships. Consumers focused too much on US numbers will obviously be confused, but it's not dishonesty on the dealership's part....they're just presenting published numbers.


3.Blog is Hyundai promo current blog....where we are ....if I m not sleeping:) This is a thread, not a blog. ;)

[pete]

anyone know where I can get some good winter tires for a Santa Fe 2011.. got the 16 inch rims for the winter even though my summers are 18..

or can anyone recommend good tires?

[jhong88]

Does anyone know what the whole sale price is for the 2011 Santa Fe Limited with Navi? Thanks

[buffylover]

Question... Does the 2011 Elantra GLS have a sunroof? It says on the website that it is standard on the GLS, but I've been watching some videos on YouTube and all the GLS don't have a sunroof. I was going to look more into it, but I haven't had time to go into a dealer to find out. Also does anybody have any pros or cons reguarding the 2011 Elantra GLS?

[Rehan]

Question... Does the 2011 Elantra GLS have a sunroof? It says on the website that it is standard on the GLS, but I've been watching some videos on YouTube and all the GLS don't have a sunroof. I was going to look more into it, but I haven't had time to go into a dealer to find out. In the US, the Elantra GLS is the base model and it has no sunroof (http://www.hyundaiusa.com/elantra/features.aspx). The videos you're watching are probably with US market vehicles. The Canadian Elantra GLS does have a sunroof, as it says on the website.

[retroshoe]

Question... Does the 2011 Elantra GLS have a sunroof? It says on the website that it is standard on the GLS, but I've been watching some videos on YouTube and all the GLS don't have a sunroof. I was going to look more into it, but I haven't had time to go into a dealer to find out. Also does anybody have any pros or cons reguarding the 2011 Elantra GLS?

The Elantra GLS Sport has a sunroof, along with the 17" alloys and spoiler, along with other options (ipod link, etc) for 24xxx The Elantra GLS doesn't have any of the above, but still loaded for 20xxx which is vgd in my opinion.

[buffylover]

Wait what? Lol

I just got two conflicting answers, by the way, thanks for he responses guys. Anyway, I just want the basic model, but I want a sunroof, so the GLS is the way to go? I'm looking at the sedan. I don't need a spoiler and all that junk


The Elantra GLS Sport has a sunroof, along with the 17" alloys and spoiler, along with other options (ipod link, etc) for 24xxx The Elantra GLS doesn't have any of the above, but still loaded for 20xxx which is vgd in my opinion.

[Rehan]

Wait what? Lol

I just got two conflicting answers retroshoe was referring to the Elantra Touring wagon, which is completely different from the 2011 Elantra sedan. :) There's no "GLS Sport" trim for the sedan.

[buffylover]

Ok got it, thanks guys, hopefully I can test drive one soon. I can't get one until the end of august due to some problems with my insurance. Anybody know when the new 2012 comes out and will I still be able to get a 2011 in aug and will it be a better price?

[LOOSEWHEEL]

2012's are on the lots now. 2011 supplies are dwindling. Doubt there will be any left in August.

[Xtyle86]

Hi guys,

This thread is helping me alot in making decisions. I have decided to go with Sonata GL 2011. I missed the boat for 0% 84 and 72 so I thought of 48 mo 0%. Got an offer of 575/mo for 48mo everything in including 500 graduate rebate... Is it a good deal? I was thinking of more like 570... but i guess that's too low?

Thank you

[TheRed]

I hope the 2012 Santa Fe will be a major redesign like the Tucson. Will Hyundai still have the 0% financing on new 2012 models? What about last year--do they offer 0% financing on new 2011 models at launch?

[LOOSEWHEEL]

I hope the 2012 Santa Fe will be a major redesign like the Tucson. Will Hyundai still have the 0% financing on new 2012 models? What about last year--do they offer 0% financing on new 2011 models at launch?

Doubt it. Even the new 2012 Accent is at 3.9% for financing.

[CSIFan29]

Anyone know what the 2012 Elantra GLS has over the 2011? Debating if I should wait or not..

[pete]

I hope the 2012 Santa Fe will be a major redesign like the Tucson. Will Hyundai still have the 0% financing on new 2012 models? What about last year--do they offer 0% financing on new 2011 models at launch?

I think the major redesign will be done on the 2013 model.

[buffylover]

Anyone know what the 2012 Elantra GLS has over the 2011? Debating if I should wait or not..

When is the 2012 launching? For cars, does the last years model tend to drop in price when the new one comes out?

[LOOSEWHEEL]

When is the 2012 launching? For cars, does the last years model tend to drop in price when the new one comes out?

2012 is out now (Elantra)

[napoleon1769]

Anyone got a CCC report on the Elantra lines?

[CSIFan29]

2012 is out now (Elantra)

Do you have pricing, features, financing rates?

[LOOSEWHEEL]

Pretty sure it's $100 more, financing remains at 3.9% (however 2011 financing drops to 2.9%) and the additional features are negligible, new colors is about it.

[Rehan]

2012 Elantra sedan pricing (excluding freight):

L Manual - $15,849
L Automatic - $17,049
GL Manual - $18,099
GL Automatic - $19,299
GLS Manual - $19,799
GLS Automatic - $20,999
Limited Automatic - $22,699
Limited Automatic w/ Nav - $24,699

Financing at 3.9% for 24-72 months.

[Ziggy007]

Hi guys,

This thread is helping me alot in making decisions. I have decided to go with Sonata GL 2011. I missed the boat for 0% 84 and 72 so I thought of 48 mo 0%. Got an offer of 575/mo for 48mo everything in including 500 graduate rebate... Is it a good deal? I was thinking of more like 570... but i guess that's too low?

Thank you

Never negotiate in terms of monthly payments, always work out the final price and then go from there.

[bingo_jake]

does anyone know what the cash incentives are for Sonata and Sonata 2.0? It seems 0% for 84 is no longer available >:(

an updated CCC report would be great, if anyone has access to. Thanks

[Pro]

2012 Elantra sedan pricing (excluding freight):

L Manual - $15,849
L Automatic - $17,049
GL Manual - $18,099
GL Automatic - $19,299
GLS Manual - $19,799
GLS Automatic - $20,999
Limited Automatic - $22,699
Limited Automatic w/ Nav - $24,699

Financing at 3.9% for 24-72 months.

Have you tried driving one yet? I would like to know if there's a big difference from the 2011 and 2012.

[Rehan]

Have you tried driving one yet? I would like to know if there's a big difference from the 2011 and 2012. No, I haven't driven one... I'm in the market for a newish car, but Elantra's not near the top of the list so I haven't bothered focusing on it much. I just got this info from APA's website, where the 2012 Elantra is now listed (even before it made it to hyundaicanada.com). I would expect that there's hardly anything new for 2012.

[nuropa]

Have you tried driving one yet? I would like to know if there's a big difference from the 2011 and 2012.

virtually no difference, except these two i think.

1. Active Eco System is standard on all Elantra automatic transmissions to improve real world fuel economy up to 7%. 2011 is passive which has a indicator that tells you when you drive economically, but doesn't do anything.

2. The horn sound was improved to sound more prominent on all trim levels Standard and Optional Features

full list of american 2012 changes here http://www.hyundai-forums.com/t63899-2012-hyundai-elantra-released.htm

[LacroixOfiel]

does anyone know what the cash incentives are for Sonata and Sonata 2.0? It seems 0% for 84 is no longer available >:(

an updated CCC report would be great, if anyone has access to. Thanks

Cash Discount: $2,250 Discount on all 2.0T trim levels; $2.000 for Sonata

Finance: 0.0/0.9/1.49% for 24-48/60/72-84 months

[bingo_jake]

Cash Discount: $2,250 Discount on all 2.0T trim levels; $2.000 for Sonata

Finance: 0.0/0.9/1.49% for 24-48/60/72-84 months

Thank you

[Xtyle86]

Never negotiate in terms of monthly payments, always work out the final price and then go from there.

Hello,

Thank you for replying.
Could you explain why I should not negotiate in monthly payments?

The final offer given was 575/month for 48mos (27600 all in). That works out to be about 3.75 markup according to ccc. He wrote it down and I put deposit. I'm waiting for the car to arrive at the dealership from another dealership. Dealer told me he will give the deposit back if I do not like the mileage on the car(he will call the other dealer to get the mileage information first before bringing it to his dealer) Is there anything I have to know, do, or be aware of at this point? I'm very new to buying new so if there's any advise you could give me, please. Thank you,

[wfeddern]

My 2002 hyundai accent is dying on me, and rather then putting more money into it, looking at replacing it with a 2011 or 2012. Looks like the 2012's are out now, so will be visiting the local dealerships next week.

I like the looks/features of the 2012, but may be hard to resist the deals on the 2011.

Would be nice to hear experiences of anyone else looking at/purchasing the 2012 accent.

[__wizard__]

My 2002 hyundai accent is dying on me, and rather then putting more money into it, looking at replacing it with a 2011 or 2012. Looks like the 2012's are out now, so will be visiting the local dealerships next week.

I like the looks/features of the 2012, but may be hard to resist the deals on the 2011.

Would be nice to hear experiences of anyone else looking at/purchasing the 2012 accent.

There is a reason why it has heavy incentives and I tihnk it is worth buying the 2012 as it has 30 more horsepower and better fuel economy

[pete]

did anyone get the rustproofing from hyundai..? I know people always say don't do it, but for $500 they guarantee no rust for life of the car.. and its transferable if I sell the car.. any signs of rust and they fix it.. the 5 yr warranty is only if there is a hole.

considering that it costs about $80-100 to get it done each year....

[superdsi]

Can't understand why there is always questions about etching, rust proof, $299 administration fees, and extra warranty.

The car salesperson/ dealership will only be nice to you until you sign the purchase agreement and pickup your car.

The first issue/warranty claim/ could you do something for me and the salesperson asks for ID to determine who you are.

The is redflagdeals where people worry about 32 cents not charity for car dealers.

The car dealerships are owned by dentists/ accountants/ and other rich people trying to get richer.

[B]Do not buy extra warranty, do not buy etching, and do not buy rust proofing.

There is little money to be made in selling $9999 acccents.

So they are insisting on people comeback to their dealerships to do extra maintenance.

Do you think they make money on the 36,000km check on your vehicle for $400? YES.

Be strong and say no. Get your maintenance done with a mechanic you trust.

Rant over.

[pete]

Can't understand why there is always questions about etching, rust proof, $299 administration fees, and extra warranty.

The car salesperson/ dealership will only be nice to you until you sign the purchase agreement and pickup your car.

The first issue/warranty claim/ could you do something for me and the salesperson asks for ID to determine who you are.

The is redflagdeals where people worry about 32 cents not charity for car dealers.

The car dealerships are owned by dentists/ accountants/ and other rich people trying to get richer.

[B]Do not buy extra warranty, do not buy etching, and do not buy rust proofing.

There is little money to be made in selling $9999 acccents.

So they are insisting on people comeback to their dealerships to do extra maintenance.

Do you think they make money on the 36,000km check on your vehicle for $400? YES.

Be strong and say no. Get your maintenance done with a mechanic you trust.

Rant over.


I agree and disagree at the sametime.. I'm just wondering on the rustproofing because for $1.50 more a week, I have peace of mind (unless there is some loophole which is why I asked the question).. I bought a Santa Fe, and all the other mechanics I've dealt with are crap.. Hyundai is actually known to have cheap labour so their maintenance is actually lower than most dealerships.

What guarantees are there from rust proofing with an outside company? (I'm asking this because I don't know, not to start a major debate)..



Hyundai does it one time and then they don't do it again ever on the car...

[beerbaron105]

new cars don't really rust, especially under the body, I would be more concerned with rust as a result of a leaky taillight/headlight, or rock-chip

if you're only keeping it for the financed term, I wouldn't bother

[pete]

new cars don't really rust, especially under the body, I would be more concerned with rust as a result of a leaky taillight/headlight, or rock-chip

if you're only keeping it for the financed term, I wouldn't bother



well it's a minimum of 7 years unless I trade in early.. my mazda was TERRIBLE for rust which is making me want to have it even more..

[silver09]

Never negotiate in terms of monthly payments, always work out the final price and then go from there.
Anyone explain the difference in Smart Financing on Tucson GLS vs regular financing? as dealers are able to reduce the monthly payment based on smart finance...

[LOOSEWHEEL]

Anyone explain the difference in Smart Financing on Tucson GLS vs regular financing? as dealers are able to reduce the monthly payment based on smart finance...

From website:

The monthly payment shown is for 60 months. However, the amount being financed (including taxes, levies and fees) is amortized over an 84 month period and the Remaining Principal Balance is due at the end of the 60 month period.


Essentially the payments are as if it was financed over 84 months BUT the term ends at 60 months. So at the end of 60 months you pay off the balance that would otherwise have been paid off monthly over the remaining 24 months (84 - 60=24)

[TimBittes]

Anyone know if the Dealer Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate of $4,000.00 for Santa Fe's in May was carried over into June?
I found some May CCC reports elsewhere on RFD but the cash rebates expire May 31. Curious to know if they were carried over like the other incentives.

Thanks in advance.
Tim

[GreyingJay]

Anyone know if the Dealer Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate of $4,000.00 for Santa Fe's in May was carried over into June?
I found some May CCC reports elsewhere on RFD but the cash rebates expire May 31. Curious to know if they were carried over like the other incentives.

Thanks in advance.
Tim

I know it was $3000 for the Tucson and the current incentives expire on June 30, 2011. I assume that means the Santa Fe is the same.

Here's a question for 2011 Tucson and Santa Fe owners: do your front passenger seats fold flat to increase the cargo capacity for long objects?

[pete]

Anyone know if the Dealer Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate of $4,000.00 for Santa Fe's in May was carried over into June?
I found some May CCC reports elsewhere on RFD but the cash rebates expire May 31. Curious to know if they were carried over like the other incentives.

Thanks in advance.
Tim

yes it did.

I think the financing is up though if I remember correctly.. might be 3.99 instead of 3.90

[TimBittes]

yes it did.

I think the financing is up though if I remember correctly.. might be 3.99 instead of 3.90

Thanks for the responses GreyingJay and Pete. Much Appreciated.

Tim

[TheRed]

I know it was $3000 for the Tucson and the current incentives expire on June 30, 2011. I assume that means the Santa Fe is the same.

Here's a question for 2011 Tucson and Santa Fe owners: do your front passenger seats fold flat to increase the cargo capacity for long objects?

Where can you find the $3,000 cash incentive for Tucson/Santa Fe? I don't see it mentioned anywhere? I even went to the dealer and they didn't mention anything about it.

[Rehan]

Where can you find the $3,000 cash incentive for Tucson/Santa Fe? I don't see it mentioned anywhere? I even went to the dealer and they didn't mention anything about it. You can get the info from CarCostCanada and APA. Here are the details for Tucson:
"No Cash Discount on L 5spd; $3,000 Cash Discount for GLS & Limited trim levels; $2,250 Cash Discount for all other trim levels. Ends Jun 30, 2011"

...for Santa Fe:
"No Cash Discount on GL 2.4L 6spd; $4,000 Cash Discount on all other trim levels; Ends Jun 30, 2011 "

[CSIFan29]

Can someone pull the APA for Elantra 2012 GLS? You can only do 2011 om CCC.

[bc1984]

Could someone confirm whether the current cash incentives that are on offer until June 30, 2011 are already applied to the prices quoted on the Hyundai website? I'm looking at the Elantra Touring which apparently has a cash incentive of $2700, but not on the L5spd model. So if I were to get the "GL 5 speed Manual" (the cash incentive should apply to) with an online selling price of $17,399, is the $2700 cash discount already included in this price or does it come off this price making it $14699?

Also, I'm assuming the standard applies that if I take the cash discount then I can not get the 0% financing? But if I take the cash discount, do I still get the $0.30 gas card?

Any help would be appreciated. I'm new to RedFlag and I'm new to possibly buying a brand-new car from the dealer.

Thanks!

[GreyingJay]

Could someone confirm whether the current cash incentives that are on offer until June 30, 2011 are already applied to the prices quoted on the Hyundai website? I'm looking at the Elantra Touring which apparently has a cash incentive of $2700, but not on the L5spd model. So if I were to get the "GL 5 speed Manual" (the cash incentive should apply to) with an online selling price of $17,399, is the $2700 cash discount already included in this price or does it come off this price making it $14699?

Also, I'm assuming the standard applies that if I take the cash discount then I can not get the 0% financing? But if I take the cash discount, do I still get the $0.30 gas card?

Any help would be appreciated. I'm new to RedFlag and I'm new to possibly buying a brand-new car from the dealer.

Thanks!

No, the prices quoted on the website usually don't include any discounts. First, discounts may vary from time to time and it's less work to update the website. Second, what you'll find is that some dealers are less up front than others about whether a discount exists and how much it is. Of course they want you to pay full MSRP and not ask about whether there are any discounts. And if you do, they might say "Yes! We'll take $2000 off!" instead of $2700. If you agree then they pocket the extra $700. That's why the CCC report is useful, if they try that then you can say "But I know you can do better than that".

Incidentally, one guy did try to do that. Apparently when you run a CCC report your name gets sent to a local dealer. A salesman emailed me, all excited, about how there was this big sale and how he could offer me an amazing $2500 cash discount! But my CCC report said there was $3000 dealer cash on the Tucson... :confused:

You are correct that the cash discount does not apply to 0% financing, however it can be combined with 3.99% financing. So if you do the math and especially if you have a down payment or trade, you may be able to save money by taking the 3.99%, as long as the interest you end up paying totals less than the $3000 discount.

I believe the gas card applies in all cases. However that thing is only worth $360 so keep it in perspective when you are negotiating. :)

[bc1984]

No, the prices quoted on the website usually don't include any discounts. First, discounts may vary from time to time and it's less work to update the website. Second, what you'll find is that some dealers are less up front than others about whether a discount exists and how much it is. Of course they want you to pay full MSRP and not ask about whether there are any discounts. And if you do, they might say "Yes! We'll take $2000 off!" instead of $2700. If you agree then they pocket the extra $700. That's why the CCC report is useful, if they try that then you can say "But I know you can do better than that".

Incidentally, one guy did try to do that. Apparently when you run a CCC report your name gets sent to a local dealer. A salesman emailed me, all excited, about how there was this big sale and how he could offer me an amazing $2500 cash discount! But my CCC report said there was $3000 dealer cash on the Tucson... :confused:

You are correct that the cash discount does not apply to 0% financing, however it can be combined with 3.99% financing. So if you do the math and especially if you have a down payment or trade, you may be able to save money by taking the 3.99%, as long as the interest you end up paying totals less than the $3000 discount.

I believe the gas card applies in all cases. However that thing is only worth $360 so keep it in perspective when you are negotiating. :)


Thanks GreyingJay. That helps a lot! That means the car we want is another $2700 off. Nice! :) It seems like the CCC or APA reports are really worth the money, eh?

Thanks again!

[bwr827]

Anyone know how to find out if any changes are coming for the 2012 Tucson? I'm told they'll start arriving next month. It would be awesome if they got a new engine to replace the 2.4L. Perhaps a more powerful and more efficient engine like the Sonata's.

[scoobysnax]

Can anyone tell me if there are any cash incentives for an Elantra 2011 Limited with NAV?

TIA.

[pete]

just picked up my Santa Fe today.. didn't have a chance to drive it yet, but 2 things to note.

car had 120 kms on it.. seems a lot to me no? what did everyone else have?

had 2 pretty big scratches on the side. wasn't happy at all with that. they said they'd deal with it.

-DO NOT get the all season mats.. terrible. I thought they'd be awesome since I have a 3yr old, but they're useless.. they don't fit in well at all. for $330 it was a waste.. got my money back right away.
pics make it look like they are built in, but they aren't.

[bwr827]

Can anyone tell me if there are any cash incentives for an Elantra 2011 Limited with NAV?

TIA.

Just ran the report -- there are no current incentives for that model, unless you count the security deposit waiver for leases.

[GreyingJay]

just picked up my Santa Fe today.. didn't have a chance to drive it yet, but 2 things to note.

car had 120 kms on it.. seems a lot to me no? what did everyone else have?

had 2 pretty big scratches on the side. wasn't happy at all with that. they said they'd deal with it.


I haven't purchased a new vehicle yet, but I'd say anything less than a couple hundred km's still counts as new. Every vehicle will have a couple of km's on it simply to drive it off the factory and onto the dealer lot. And then probably a couple of people took it out for a test drive. (That's probably how it got those two big scratches ;) )

How do you like the Santa Fe? Did you compare it to the Tucson at all?

[bwr827]

How do you like the Santa Fe? Did you compare it to the Tucson at all?

My wife and I were choosing between the Tucson and Santa Fe:

Santa Fe: smoother ride, but a little soft in handling. Better power (V6), but worse mileage. Lots more cargo space, but feels way bigger behind the wheel as well -- much more truck-like. Exterior is pleasing, but bland. Ditto for the interior. Standard features are a little better, as you need to go with a GLS in the Tucson to get Bluetooth and heated seats like in the Santa Fe GL. At first we liked the Santa Fe more, but then we decided it is too large for our everyday use.

Tucson: way more style inside and out, and more car-like in feel. However, ride is a lot firmer, which makes for better handling, but also a lot bumpier along the way.

We've decided to go with a Tucson FWD GLS.

[GreyingJay]

I'm torn. I test drove a Tucson and I found it quite pleasant and the GLS seems to offer a good bang for the buck. However, once you hover around the 28-30 mark, you're pretty close to RAV4, Escape, and other similar vehicles.

Taking a look at used vehicle prices (I've also been debating whether to buy something like an '08 Escape or RAV instead of a brand new Hyundai) it looks like used values plummet much more with Hyundai, less so with Ford, and even less so with Toyota and Honda (e.g. 2007 Tucsons are going for about $11K, 2007 Escapes for $15K, RAV4 and CRVs for $19K). Makes me wonder if buying a $30K RAV4 might be better value than a $28K Tucson.

On the other hand, my wallet would be much happier if I could find a nice AWD SUV, not too old, in the $15K range.

Perhaps the thing to do is wait another year when the first of the 2010 Tucsons should be coming off leases, and see if I can pick one up used. Meanwhile I can watch the market and see if anything interesting is planned for the 2012 Tucson, Santa Fe, and the new Ford Escape.

[proteinJunkie]

I'm torn. I test drove a Tucson and I found it quite pleasant and the GLS seems to offer a good bang for the buck. However, once you hover around the 28-30 mark, you're pretty close to RAV4, Escape, and other similar vehicles.

Taking a look at used vehicle prices (I've also been debating whether to buy something like an '08 Escape or RAV instead of a brand new Hyundai) it looks like used values plummet much more with Hyundai, less so with Ford, and even less so with Toyota and Honda (e.g. 2007 Tucsons are going for about $11K, 2007 Escapes for $15K, RAV4 and CRVs for $19K). Makes me wonder if buying a $30K RAV4 might be better value than a $28K Tucson.

On the other hand, my wallet would be much happier if I could find a nice AWD SUV, not too old, in the $15K range.

Perhaps the thing to do is wait another year when the first of the 2010 Tucsons should be coming off leases, and see if I can pick one up used. Meanwhile I can watch the market and see if anything interesting is planned for the 2012 Tucson, Santa Fe, and the new Ford Escape.



the difference i would say is that you get bumper to bumper warranty on new.

I am in the same boat, and have come to the decision new is the way to go.
and all current review sites etc aren't recommending toyota etc like they used to.

If i were you, i would cross the escape out of the list!

[Wiseman]

Hi, I'm really interested in possibly buying the Elantra Touring L (auto or 5spd) or Elantra Touring GL (auto or 5spd).

Would anyone happen to have these CCC reports? Please PM if you can share, thank you!

[bwr827]

True, the Tucson GLS is close in price to the competition, but you can't get anywhere near as good of a financing deal, monthly payment-wise. Rav4 for under $400/month? Not that I've seen.

[becker2_99]

Currently looking seriously at the 2011 Elantra Touring GL or GLS (havn't decided yet is worth the ~2000 price difference)

Here is the dealer invoice for the manual GL that I pulled off of CarSaver. Can anyone confirm if this matches what CCC shows?

Invoice: $16496
MSRP: $17399

If this is true, it would suggest that there is under $1000 in negotiating room if a consumer were to choose the 0%/84 months option.


Also in earlier posts to this thread there was some discussion regarding taking the cash purchase price savings of $2500 - $3000 and then financing through Hyundia at 3.9% (might not have all the details exactly correct)
Is there a simple calculator that shows the benefits of doing this?

Thanks in advance to all helpful fellow RFDers

[wolverine07]

Brian Tan - Hyundai of Mississauga - his contact info is in this thread or just call hyundai of mississauga and ask for him.

905-828-5923
2450 Motorway Blvd.
Mississauga, ON
L5L 1X3


I dealt with him as well and got a very favourable experience. I don't know if he offers the lowest prices, but at least I didn't get any BS and he was upfront and courteous.

For those that have dealt with this dealership, does anyone know what is Brian's preferred commission?

[Deirdref]

Anybody buy a Veracruz? I have the wholesale price, just wondering what kind of deals people are being offered, what is acceptable for "fees".

[bwr827]

Just bought a Tucson GLS (FWD). $31,136 all in, including a few accessories. Car Cost report certainly helped -- I think this works out to about 2.75% over invoice.

[southnam]

Hyundai Canada really need to start having the 2011 Accent with Cash Back on the hood because the upcoming 2012 Accent's hotness is making the 2011 a fugly deal at MSRP.


Any news on discounts on Accents. I was thinking of buying a 2007 or so Certified Used Civic but if Accents are dipping close to $10000 again, might be a better bet for a cheap commuter car that's great on gas. Anyone have a CCC report recently on a 2011 Accent.

[GreyingJay]

Any news on discounts on Accents. I was thinking of buying a 2007 or so Certified Used Civic but if Accents are dipping close to $10000 again, might be a better bet for a cheap commuter car that's great on gas. Anyone have a CCC report recently on a 2011 Accent.

I don't think you'll see any more movement on any of the 2011's as the 2012's are already starting to replace them in lots.

[luv_gr8_deals]

My 2002 Hyundai Sonata was by far the worst car I have EVER owned (and I've owned Fords in the 1980's:facepalm:).

There were/are no after market parts; Brake Rotors were $160 each, paper thin, and couldn't be machined even once. By comparison, at the time Impala Rotors cost $120 and could be machined 3-4 times. Same went for every other part - the best being the O2 sensor that was not in stock in North America and took 6 weeks to come from oversea's... :facepalm::facepalm:

Hyundai's are cheap out the door, but kill you on parts and repairs over the life of the vehicle (which I would say is no more than 5 years).

"2002".

Quality has continually improved.

[luv_gr8_deals]

New cars sales are down from last year. Expect more deals.

[napoleon1769]

New cars sales are down from last year. Expect more deals.

I wish. But not on Hyundais. Their sales are going up.

[Wasgo]

"2002".

Quality has continually improved.

I have a 2009 Elantra Touring and I absolutely love mine. So does Consumer Reports.

[Poulet]

When is the Veloster and Elantra Coupe coming out? How much will be the Veloster?

[berncres]

Just negotiated with a dealer - $39656 for a Tucson LTD with Navi, price out the door (plus license plate & sticker). This was $781 over my first offer based on the carcostcanada report. This was all done through e-mail (although I've been at the dealer twice already). I'm going to come in and try to either get it down a bit lower or get them to throw in some extras. There's probably only a half dozen of this model left in the GTA so I'm going to act soon. Monthly payments at 0.9% over 84 months will be $488.50 unless I manage to haggle some more.

I think I'm doing ok so far.

[KingRay99]

Just bought a Tucson GLS (FWD). $31,136 all in, including a few accessories. Car Cost report certainly helped -- I think this works out to about 2.75% over invoice.

Hi There...just want to check my math...

on the hyndai website the msrp all in for the 2011 tuscon gls fwd = $32418...but when you apply the $3000 discount and the tax savings my thinking is that your starting point of negotiation should be $3390 less at $29028...

am i missing something? Thanks in advance

[dealsdeamon]

OK it's official - Brian Tan is the best. He's not weird, shady, dishonest, sneaky, - just straight up best price, best deal, honest, super nice guy. Didn't know car salespeople could be normal - he is awesome. Thank you for the referrals from this board - he gave us a great price and great service - he's tech savvy, he understands that time is at a premium - I hope we don't have to buy cars again for a long long time, but I hope we can go back to him again when the time comes.

Brian Tan - Hyundai of Mississauga - his contact info is in this thread or just call hyundai of mississauga and ask for him.

905-828-5923
2450 Motorway Blvd.
Mississauga, ON
L5L 1X3

We get nothing from this referral - we don't even live near Mississauga - we've just been through the (two) car search/buying experience everywhere from Niagara to Brampton (and Toronto by email quotes) and he's the absolute winner.

My wife and I had the distinct pleasure of working with Brian this morning and would recommend him 100% to anyone in the GTA considering purchasing a Hyundai.

DD

[bwr827]

Hi There...just want to check my math...

on the hyndai website the msrp all in for the 2011 tuscon gls fwd = $32418...but when you apply the $3000 discount and the tax savings my thinking is that your starting point of negotiation should be $3390 less at $29028...

am i missing something? Thanks in advance

No factory discount when you finance. Savings of the $3,000 discount wasn't enough when compared with making a deal based on CCC info and then financing for a nice, low monthly payment.

[berncres]

Just negotiated with a dealer - $39656 for a Tucson LTD with Navi, price out the door (plus license plate & sticker). This was $781 over my first offer based on the carcostcanada report. This was all done through e-mail (although I've been at the dealer twice already). I'm going to come in and try to either get it down a bit lower or get them to throw in some extras. There's probably only a half dozen of this model left in the GTA so I'm going to act soon. Monthly payments at 0.9% over 84 months will be $488.50 unless I manage to haggle some more.

I think I'm doing ok so far.

UPDATE - Called Brian Tan and he informed me over the phone that he can beat this price by at least $400. So I met up with the first dealer and they were able to do the same. Deal is just about done - they just need to find the right colour (I gave them two choices only).

Brian, if you're reading this, sorry but I live 5 minutes from this dealer and you're all the way in Mississauga. However, thanks for giving me that quick quote over the phone - it really helped me a lot.:) I still +1 the recommendation that others gave you!

[bc1984]

We just inked a deal for a new Elantra Touring GL and pretty happy with the price. Thanks for the all help from everyone on here!

Question: Does anyone know where I can buy Hyundai accessories in Canada other than the dealership? I know about www.thehyundaiaccessorystore.com & www.hyundaiaccessorystore.com but shipping to Canada is ridiculous - it basically wipes out any significant savings compared to buying from the dealership. Anyone know of a place within Canada so that shipping isn't as brutal? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.

[Repooc]

We just inked a deal for a new Elantra Touring GL and pretty happy with the price. Thanks for the all help from everyone on here!

Question: Does anyone know where I can buy Hyundai accessories in Canada other than the dealership? I know about www.thehyundaiaccessorystore.com & www.hyundaiaccessorystore.com but shipping to Canada is ridiculous - it basically wipes out any significant savings compared to buying from the dealership. Anyone know of a place within Canada so that shipping isn't as brutal? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.

+1.. I'm also interested in finding OEM accessories without the stealership prices for my 2011 Tucson

[rollen]

We just inked a deal for a new Elantra Touring GL and pretty happy with the price. Thanks for the all help from everyone on here!

Question: Does anyone know where I can buy Hyundai accessories in Canada other than the dealership? I know about www.thehyundaiaccessorystore.com & www.hyundaiaccessorystore.com but shipping to Canada is ridiculous - it basically wipes out any significant savings compared to buying from the dealership. Anyone know of a place within Canada so that shipping isn't as brutal? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.

what price did you get it for? im also looking at the same vehicle...possible GLS depending on price difference.

[bc1984]

what price did you get it for? im also looking at the same vehicle...possible GLS depending on price difference.

We financed at 0% for 84 months with $0 down - its what made the most sense for us. Its an GL auto. I contacted about a dozen dealerships to see what people would do for me then took the best price back to who we'd done our test drive with to see if they'd match the price - which they did. Our total all in price including HST, fees, delivery charges, bank loan fees, etc etc was $21840 - down from an initial MSRP of $23507. This is with no accessories at all and not counting our trade-in (which we haven't decided if we're taking their offer yet as we've yet to take delivery). I might have been able to get a lower price but since I'd talked to a bunch of places I felt pretty good about this price.

Good luck!

[shopper-X]

We financed at 0% for 84 months with $0 down - its what made the most sense for us. Its an GL auto. I contacted about a dozen dealerships to see what people would do for me then took the best price back to who we'd done our test drive with to see if they'd match the price - which they did. Our total all in price including HST, fees, delivery charges, bank loan fees, etc etc was $21840 - down from an initial MSRP of $23507. This is with no accessories at all and not counting our trade-in (which we haven't decided if we're taking their offer yet as we've yet to take delivery). I might have been able to get a lower price but since I'd talked to a bunch of places I felt pretty good about this price.

Good luck!

No point using the trade-in to lower the monthly payments at 0%. Use the money to make the next few payments instead.

[bc1984]

No point using the trade-in to lower the monthly payments at 0%. Use the money to make the next few payments instead.

Good point! Although we got offered so little we might actually end up donating the car to a charity and taking the tax receipt. There's a pretty good chance that we'll get better value for it this way and that come tax time it'll be a wash or we'll come out slightly ahead. Plus its pretty fun shopping for charities to donate a car too!

[Poulet]

Anyone know if or when the Veloster or Elantra Coupe will be offered?

[Pro]

Good point! Although we got offered so little we might actually end up donating the car to a charity and taking the tax receipt. There's a pretty good chance that we'll get better value for it this way and that come tax time it'll be a wash or we'll come out slightly ahead. Plus its pretty fun shopping for charities to donate a car too!

If you do find a good charity in the GTA please post it. Good idea to be donating the car for sure. Often times you get so little for a trade-in.

[zero_]

We just inked a deal for a new Elantra Touring GL and pretty happy with the price. Thanks for the all help from everyone on here!

Question: Does anyone know where I can buy Hyundai accessories in Canada other than the dealership? I know about www.thehyundaiaccessorystore.com & www.hyundaiaccessorystore.com but shipping to Canada is ridiculous - it basically wipes out any significant savings compared to buying from the dealership. Anyone know of a place within Canada so that shipping isn't as brutal? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.

I did some research on this as well but couldn't find anything reasonable. I bought the same car and am looking for a cargo cover. Dealership wants 200+ for it. Used ones can be had on ebay for 100+shipping. I have been wondering if there are other cargo covers that may fit.

[molexir]

just picked up my Santa Fe today.. didn't have a chance to drive it yet, but 2 things to note.

car had 120 kms on it.. seems a lot to me no? what did everyone else have?

had 2 pretty big scratches on the side. wasn't happy at all with that. they said they'd deal with it...

I used to work PT for a company contracted by a major car manufacturer & drove new cars from the plant to a holding area or vice versa etc and the odometer was merely reset at the plant - so in all likelihood, no car honestly has "0km" most cars honestly have about 10-200km on them even if the odometer says 0km.


I haven't purchased a new vehicle yet, but I'd say anything less than a couple hundred km's still counts as new. Every vehicle will have a couple of km's on it simply to drive it off the factory and onto the dealer lot. And then probably a couple of people took it out for a test drive. (That's probably how it got those two big scratches ;) )...

^+1^

[bc1984]

I did some research on this as well but couldn't find anything reasonable. I bought the same car and am looking for a cargo cover. Dealership wants 200+ for it. Used ones can be had on ebay for 100+shipping. I have been wondering if there are other cargo covers that may fit.

Yeah, I want the cargo cover too but the dealership wants $266 for it, which is ridiculous. I can get is from www.hyundaiaccesorystore.com for $180 and then $40 for shipping - this is about $50 worth of savings. But I have a feeling that I'd probably get hit with import duties and possibly additional taxes too, so I'm not sure its worth it. I'm thinking I might get it shipped to Niagara Falls, NY and then make a drive down - its only about 90 minutes for me. But with the price of gas I might as well save myself the hassle and just pay the full dealership price. Sucks.

The cargo tray I'm also interested in, but doing it this way would only save me $5.

But if you're interested in the roof rack check out this site because even with paying shipping, you'd still be paying less than half of what the dealership wants.

[kajan23]

Looking to get Hyundai Elantra Touring GLS 2011- Auto, anyone have any spare CCC reports, or can anyone send me in the right direction, this would be my first car purchase, recent grad, looking for the 84 month finance option.

Thanks in advance, feel free to PM me.

[shopper-X]

Looking to get Hyundai Elantra Touring GLS 2011- Auto, anyone have any spare CCC reports, or can anyone send me in the right direction, this would be my first car purchase, recent grad, looking for the 84 month finance option.

Thanks in advance, feel free to PM me.

Most likely already posted or you can try to post in the 3 Free CarCostCanada reports! (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-3-free-carcostcanada-reports-484563/) thread.

Just did a quick search and found a 2010 one posted: 2010 Hyundai Elantra Touring 4dr Wgn Man GL (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-3-free-carcostcanada-reports-484563/104/#post10841297)

[pete]

a few things to note on the Santa Fe..

1 - all season mats are useless.. pictures look as if they are nice and snug fitting, but in reality they are terrible and loose.

2 - rear bumper protector has changed. older models it looks like a hard plastic, now it's just a piece of what feels like thick sandpaper.. will prevent scratches, but not bumps.. also doesn't cover the entire back.. somewhat of a waste of money.

3 - door sills. not that great... save ourself the money on this.

4 - Ipod cable - I've only used it for charging the phone once. I use a USB key primarily for music. Definitely a nice little feature that none of the dealers mentioned to me.

I got the santa fe about 3 weeks ago now, and still waiting on the Cargo cover, and for them to fix the scratches.

[desiboy76]

Hi I was wondering which model did you buy and how did you pay for it, I am looking to buy one.

thanks
bally





a few things to note on the Santa Fe..

1 - all season mats are useless.. pictures look as if they are nice and snug fitting, but in reality they are terrible and loose.

2 - rear bumper protector has changed. older models it looks like a hard plastic, now it's just a piece of what feels like thick sandpaper.. will prevent scratches, but not bumps.. also doesn't cover the entire back.. somewhat of a waste of money.

3 - door sills. not that great... save ourself the money on this.

4 - Ipod cable - I've only used it for charging the phone once. I use a USB key primarily for music. Definitely a nice little feature that none of the dealers mentioned to me.

I got the santa fe about 3 weeks ago now, and still waiting on the Cargo cover, and for them to fix the scratches.

[vipt2000]

Went with my bro. Negotiated for 2011 Hyundai Sonata GL Auto for invoice price minus 2,000 plus 644 for the dealer markup. Total cost 25,728 all fees and tax in.

The trade-in the 1997 nissan altima is 800 bucks before taxes. So the final price with everything included is $24,928 with the trade-in.
10k down then finance 14,928 @ 3.99% for 84 months for the monthly payment of 204.91.

The interest is 2,216.91 for 84 months and 67.87 for the admin charge on loan

Not sure if the good deal, but the dealer markup is 644. If my brother decide to pay off in 84 months then the cost for his car is 10k + 204.91*84 = 27,211
(of course you have to add 800 for his old nissan ~~28,011 as final cost)

Not as good deal as previous month but I think it is decent deal???? btw, we refused extended warranty and rust proofing.

What do you think about this deal? I guess it is too late anyway since my bro already signed and put down deposit.

[goofball]

Which dealership did you go to?
Why 3.99% financing? Hyundai website shows 1.49% for 84 months.

[sammy75]

Yeah, I want the cargo cover too but the dealership wants $266 for it, which is ridiculous. I can get is from www.hyundaiaccesorystore.com for $180 and then $40 for shipping - this is about $50 worth of savings. But I have a feeling that I'd probably get hit with import duties and possibly additional taxes too, so I'm not sure its worth it. I'm thinking I might get it shipped to Niagara Falls, NY and then make a drive down - its only about 90 minutes for me. But with the price of gas I might as well save myself the hassle and just pay the full dealership price. Sucks.

The cargo tray I'm also interested in, but doing it this way would only save me $5.

But if you're interested in the roof rack check out this site because even with paying shipping, you'd still be paying less than half of what the dealership wants.

I am also looking to buy a cargo cover and cargo tray for a Hyundai Tucson. Please keep us posted if you find any deals out there. Thanks!

[vipt2000]

Which dealership did you go to?
Why 3.99% financing? Hyundai website shows 1.49% for 84 months.

According to CCC, if you take the cash discount of $2,000 then you have to use the Smart finance of 3.99%. I calculated with 1.49% finance rate (can't combine 2k cash discount), this option turn out to be more expensive then the Smart finance. Of course with the 10k down
payment, it certaintly help.

My bro wants to have monthly pmt around $200 a month that is why he takes the 84 month finance. He probably will pay more and will take less than 84months to pay off. The final interest will be certainly less than 2,216.91.

It is the Hyundai dealership on Hunt Club.

I think you can get the 2011 Sonata GL auto for around 25,700 all inclusive if you pay cash upfront.

[tasimoJOE]

hi all,
i was just at cooksville hyundai today and not once was 0.30 cent gas card dealy mentioned as we completed the purchase (financing pending) of a 2011 GLS tucson
by nature of my purchase am i guranteed to get the card, or did they not mention it because they are 'out of stock', or because they didn't mention it will i just not be entitled to it?
i'll definitely call them and ask tomorrow, but i was wondering if anyone didn't hear mention of it as they were making their hyundai purchase but then was happy to get the gas card when they picked their car up?
thanks

[vipt2000]

hi all,
i was just at cooksville hyundai today and not once was 0.30 cent gas card dealy mentioned as we completed the purchase (financing pending) of a 2011 GLS tucson
by nature of my purchase am i guranteed to get the card, or did they not mention it because they are 'out of stock', or because they didn't mention it will i just not be entitled to it?
i'll definitely call them and ask tomorrow, but i was wondering if anyone didn't hear mention of it as they were making their hyundai purchase but then was happy to get the gas card when they picked their car up?
thanks

The gas card was not involved in our discussion. I was going to brought it up with the finance manager but the gas card is written up in the invoice.

btw, how much did you pay for the Tucson GLS?

[zero_]

hi all,
i was just at cooksville hyundai today and not once was 0.30 cent gas card dealy mentioned as we completed the purchase (financing pending) of a 2011 GLS tucson
by nature of my purchase am i guranteed to get the card, or did they not mention it because they are 'out of stock', or because they didn't mention it will i just not be entitled to it?
i'll definitely call them and ask tomorrow, but i was wondering if anyone didn't hear mention of it as they were making their hyundai purchase but then was happy to get the gas card when they picked their car up?
thanks

it should be written down on the purchase agreement
if not then you wont get it

[JJKYLIN]

We just inked a deal for a new Elantra Touring GL and pretty happy with the price. Thanks for the all help from everyone on here!

Question: Does anyone know where I can buy Hyundai accessories in Canada other than the dealership? I know about www.thehyundaiaccessorystore.com & www.hyundaiaccessorystore.com but shipping to Canada is ridiculous - it basically wipes out any significant savings compared to buying from the dealership. Anyone know of a place within Canada so that shipping isn't as brutal? Any help would be appreciated! Thanks.


Look at this website. It's cheaper than what you got.
http://www.hyundai-parts.com/scripts/prodView.asp?idProduct=328699

[tasimoJOE]

i spoke to the salesman and he said i will get the gas card at the time of delivery.
agreed to buy the 2011 tucson gls with 0% financing for a grand total, all in, otr = $32000.
went in hoping to get it for $31000 but i couldn't pull it off. so i'm not thrilled, but i dont feel screwed as it seems most 2011 santa fe owners are paying about $3500-4500 more for comparably loaded rides. i would have been through the roof if i could have walked in and said let me pay $30000 for it no hassle.

[MrSnazzyDeals]

Any cash deals on the Genesis Coupe? 84 months of payments makes me dizzy thinking about that...

[colesy]

We are looking at SUVs and the Tuscon looks decent, but do you know if you can get the automatic Santa Fe for the same price in the ad (it says 6 speed manual).

[trajancavalous]

Future Value Financing is described by Hyundai as:

How does Future Value Financing Work?

You purchase the vehicle and finance it using a Future Value Financing contract through a financial institution. The term of your finance contract is 60 months (5 years) but it is amortized over 84 months (7 years). This allows you to have a lower monthly payment. Your payment schedule is structured using a consecutive monthly payment for the 60 months (5 years) and a balloon payment at the end of your contract (which is the amount remaining on the loan). At the end of the contract term, you have 3 options for paying the balloon payment:

Refinance the outstanding balancing owing
Purchase the vehicle by paying the outstanding balance
Trade the vehicle in towards the lease or purchase of a new Hyundai vehicle

If you chose the third option, to trade in your car after 5 years, do you get the value equal to the outstanding balance towards the new car?

[dealsdeamon]

My wife and I had the distinct pleasure of working with Brian this morning and would recommend him 100% to anyone in the GTA considering purchasing a Hyundai.

DD


Just picked up our Santa Fe yesterday from Mississauga Hyundai and Brian Tan and are loving it. If you're in the GTA, go see Brian and he will take care of you.

DD

[fireguy9]

Just picked up our Santa Fe yesterday from Mississauga Hyundai and Brian Tan and are loving it. If you're in the GTA, go see Brian and he will take care of you.

DD

what did u pay and what model sante fe,,,,, parents lookin to buy one this week

[dealsdeamon]

what did u pay and what model sante fe,,,,, parents lookin to buy one this week


just give Brian a call and he will look after you. Mention to him you read about him here and he'll know :)

DD

[pete]

did anyone take the bumper protector on the santa fe?

I'm thinking I got screwed.. I thought it would be a hard plastic, but it's just a thin cover made out of what feels like sand paper.. he said it was the "new" version, but every santa fe I've seen has the other hard plastic that covers the entire back..

still haven't had my scratches fixed nor have I gotten my cargo cover.. it's been a month since I got my Santa Fe too.. has anyone experienced BS like this?

[longitude]

How's the stability of the Santa Fe?

[beppy]

Future Value Financing is described by Hyundai as:


If you chose the third option, to trade in your car after 5 years, do you get the value equal to the outstanding balance towards the new car?

They will probably negotiate with u what they think trade in value would be given market value and condition of the car at the time. Then u deduct that value against what's the final owing amount. The difference goes towards your new purchase

[luv_gr8_deals]

84 months? Is any vehicle that is 7 years old worth the same as brand new? You could buy a 7 year old vehicle for a margin of the cost, no matter what the nameplate. 7 years is a LONG time to be tied down to something that depreciates that much. That might be one of the dumbest decisions I've read today, which leads me to believe this is an April's Fool Day joke. Yes, a dealership can offer that long of a lease/buy, but that's a very bad investment. You should never lease/buy a vehicle beyond 4-5 years max, otherwise its not the same vehicle anymore.

Please, don't buy on those terms.

What are you talking about?

It's 0% interest (I haven't read the fine print though).

for UP TO 84 months.

So you would rather finance through a bank and pay interest?

[thaismomma]

I haven't purchased from them but some of my family members have bought vehicles from the Hyundai dealer on Queen near Kennedy in Brampton (Attrell Hyundai?). They have had good experiences - maybe try there?

Do not go to Attrell Hyundai. Not only because of their poor sales, service & inventory but they're located at the back of the Auto Mall next to a factory (http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=100+Canam+Crescent,+Brampton,+Ontario&hl=en&ll=43.702684,-79.795976&spn=0.002567,0.005681&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=37.692136,93.076172&t=h&z=18) that spews dirt all over their cars. They tried to deliver us a 2011 Sonata with scratch marks because "all black cars look like that". No thanks.

We ended up buying from Team Hyundai on Queen & Torbram. They were awesome, willing to negotiate $ and treat you well. See Mario or Francesco.

[rubeus]

Do not go to Attrell Hyundai. Not only because of their poor sales, service & inventory but they're located at the back of the Auto Mall next to a factory (http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=100+Canam+Crescent,+Brampton,+Ontario&hl=en&ll=43.702684,-79.795976&spn=0.002567,0.005681&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=37.692136,93.076172&t=h&z=18) that spews dirt all over their cars. They tried to deliver us a 2011 Sonata with scratch marks because "all black cars look like that". No thanks.

We ended up buying from Team Hyundai on Queen & Torbram. They were awesome, willing to negotiate $ and treat you well. See Mario or Francesco.

I disagree with this. I bought a black Santa Fe from Attrell and had no problems whatsoever.
Gave me the best price in the GTA.

[urir10]

What are you talking about?

It's 0% interest (I haven't read the fine print though).

for UP TO 84 months.

So you would rather finance through a bank and pay interest?

Its not the interest that is the problem but the length of the term. He is basically saying that after 7 year your monthly payment will be more than what the actual car is worth ;)

[espanolguy]

Its not the interest that is the problem but the length of the term. He is basically saying that after 7 year your monthly payment will be more than what the actual car is worth ;)


Yeah but in no way would it make sense to lock in to a short term or any term other than the full 84 months if it is 0% interest. You will decrease you monthly/bi-weekly obligation and have the OPTION to pay the vehicle off in less time if you prefer. If you lock in to a shorter term, you dont have the option to extend the term. Since there is no penalty for paying it off early, then why would you not go with the full term where 0% financing is available?

[danfromwaterloo]

Yeah but in no way would it make sense to lock in to a short term or any term other than the full 84 months if it is 0% interest. You will decrease you monthly/bi-weekly obligation and have the OPTION to pay the vehicle off in less time if you prefer. If you lock in to a shorter term, you dont have the option to extend the term. Since there is no penalty for paying it off early, then why would you not go with the full term where 0% financing is available?

If you want to pay off your loan early (say at the 36 month mark), open a separate bank account for your car loan payments to come out from. Every month put your car payment into that account via transfer. When you want to pay off the car, put all the money necessary to pay off the loan in that account, and let it sit for the remainder of your term. If we're using the 36 month mark on an 84 month term, your money will gather interest for 48 months. Assuming you can get around a percent for a savings account, and let's say at that point, you're paying off the loan of around $16,000, you can net yourself $400 in interest free. If you feel like taking more risks, you can put it into stocks or mutual funds and get a significantly higher return.

The real question, however, is whether 0% financing is preferrable to independent loans, given a discount for cash purchase. If you can get, say 3% financing (say from a second mortgage) from the bank at dealership A versus 0% financing from dealership B, it seems obvious that B is the better option. However, often, dealership B often charges additional $1500 for administration fees for 0% financing, while you can get typically a reduced rate from the dealership A for paying cash. I know that Kia, for example, offers $1000 less as a cash incentive. So, in order for the 0% financing to be preferrable to the bank 3% option, you need to have the interest exceed $2500.

[espanolguy]

I agree, if you can do cash, go for it and see what the dealer cash incentive is at this time. It will vary between vehicles. Sometimes it will make sense, but other times, depending on cash incentives and smart rate, may not. I work as a salesperson for a Hyundai dealership in east GTA and often recommend, if someone is set on financing, to extend to the full term if the rate is at 0%. People often dont realize that it would not make any sense at all to not go a full term of 0%. Also, programs change at the beginning of every month. This includes cash incentives. Any questions, let me know.

[total90]

I am desperately looking into buying a Tucson GLS AWD in black, and I want to get a hold of Brian Tan's email. It would be much appreciated if you can send me his email (I am currently out of the country at the moment). I went to the Don Valley Hyundai and they basically told me there's no more stock (not sure if that's true since I didn't find them being too honest when I visited).

Thanks for your help!

[vickysf]

Alas, we're in Winnipeg and are therefore a long way away from Missassauga and Brian Tan. :) Has anyone had any similarly good experiences here in Winnipeg? We're looking at the Elantra GL - has anyone bought one, and if so, what did you pay? Thanks!

[goofball]

Opinions on best dealership to visit in Ottawa for a Tucson L Auto?

[thaismomma]

I haven't seen this on the forum yet so if it's a repeat I apologize but a co-worker just showed me Unhaggle.com (https://www.unhaggle.com). Dealers compete for your business, might be worth checking out.

[gananoque]

I agree, if you can do cash, go for it and see what the dealer cash incentive is at this time. It will vary between vehicles. Sometimes it will make sense, but other times, depending on cash incentives and smart rate, may not. I work as a salesperson for a Hyundai dealership in east GTA and often recommend, if someone is set on financing, to extend to the full term if the rate is at 0%. People often dont realize that it would not make any sense at all to not go a full term of 0%. Also, programs change at the beginning of every month. This includes cash incentives. Any questions, let me know.

Agree regarding cash incentive. I was thinking to get a Tucson AWD GL, retail price before tax $28159, 0% for 72 months. Right now the cash incentive for this model is $2250. This is equivalent to a 2.55% interest per year. Unless someone can get a loan for less than that, locked for 72 months, the 0% offer is better. My line of credit has 4.75% which makes a cost of borrowing of $4263 over 72 months.

[firbrd234]

I'm in the market for a new car and looking seriously at the elantra GL. Just went to the dealership today and got a offer of $23,200 ($3000 down, $312/month for 6 years at 3.59%).

As I am new to Hyundai and not very familiar with the deals, can anyone help and let me if this is a good deal or not?

SHould I go for this deal? Is it good enough?

Any help would be appreciated

[weedb0y]

Any cash deals on the Genesis Coupe? 84 months of payments makes me dizzy thinking about that...

Just picked 2011 Genesis coupe Premiuum 2.0T for 30k from cooksville dealer at 0%. Around 760 dollars above dealer invoice and locking lug nuts included.

[MrSnazzyDeals]

Just picked 2011 Genesis coupe Premiuum 2.0T for 30k from cooksville dealer at 0%. Around 760 dollars above dealer invoice and locking lug nuts included.

Congrats! is that the OTD price? That price seems below cost! I know they offer a rebate of $4000 if you pay cash or finance at 3.6% but your price seems pretty low. Was it a demo or something?

Here are the numbers my dealer worked out: Dealer cost on that car with Freight and Air Tax is 27,858. Add the $760 in there for profit, your at $28,618 before tax. Add the HST (13%) of $3720.34 brings the grand total to $32338 + license + few other misc fees (OMVIC, PPSA).

BTW, post pics. Those cars are sweet.

[Phoenix3434]

For my next car, I was considering a few things. BMW 3xx, 5xxi, Audi A5/6, etc. Then I saw the Genesis. It has more luxuries than the car I listed, but obviously lack the "snob" factor. What do you guys think. I mean, I have absolutely no desire to throw away extra $30K (compared to 535i) just for shitz n giggles. But, if you could (not saying I could right now), would you go for the "recognized" premium brands?

Other considerations being, Hyundai is better for maintenance and fuel (cheap kind is fine).



Just picked 2011 Genesis coupe Premiuum 2.0T for 30k from cooksville dealer at 0%. Around 760 dollars above dealer invoice and locking lug nuts included.

Yeah, is that WITH tax?? Please clarify. Obviously makes a big difference.

[nabate]

I have to agree with this post. I refuse to have my car now serviced her. They are a bunch a kids learning on our cars. Mike the service
Adviser is an a tool thinking everyone out there will buy his ********


Do not go to Attrell Hyundai. Not only because of their poor sales, service & inventory but they're located at the back of the Auto Mall next to a factory (http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=100+Canam+Crescent,+Brampton,+Ontario&hl=en&ll=43.702684,-79.795976&spn=0.002567,0.005681&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=37.692136,93.076172&t=h&z=18) that spews dirt all over their cars. They tried to deliver us a 2011 Sonata with scratch marks because "all black cars look like that". No thanks.

We ended up buying from Team Hyundai on Queen & Torbram. They were awesome, willing to negotiate $ and treat you well. See Mario or Francesco.

[rambokid]

I agree with the poor service from Attrell Hyundai. Although I got a great deal on a new 07 Sonata, but that was the only good thing from them.

I asked for 3 sets of key & remote. They installed an aftermarket remote lock unit! WTF! The reason was the OEM only allows 2 remotes. The range sucked, I insisted they remove that POS and restore the OEM unit at their cost. They didn't even call to ask for my permission to mod the car.

I went for a few oil changes, the sign stated $29.99 with no small prints, but got charged extra ($5 iir) for the V6 and $2 (iir) for doc fee! WTF! The neighboring Brampton Mazda is honest, no hidden fee. I got pi$$ed from them, now I do my own oil change. One time, they lost one screw out of six that secure the engine cover, I showed to them, the guy went to the showroom, stole 1 from a new car! While waiting for the oil change, the service advisor said “you need and that” to every customers.

[vistokid]

Going to take a look at the Elantra and Sonata Limited editions in Alberta. Any advice on price? Can I get a cash price + 0% financing? I have the cash to buy, but don't see any reason with financing being so good. I've never bought a new car before so any help would be great.

Thanks in advance.

[woodstock827]

Do not go to Attrell Hyundai. Not only because of their poor sales, service & inventory but they're located at the back of the Auto Mall next to a factory (http://maps.google.ca/maps?q=100+Canam+Crescent,+Brampton,+Ontario&hl=en&ll=43.702684,-79.795976&spn=0.002567,0.005681&sll=49.891235,-97.15369&sspn=37.692136,93.076172&t=h&z=18) that spews dirt all over their cars. They tried to deliver us a 2011 Sonata with scratch marks because "all black cars look like that". No thanks.

We ended up buying from Team Hyundai on Queen & Torbram. They were awesome, willing to negotiate $ and treat you well. See Mario or Francesco.

Agreed. used to go to them a few times for oil changes since I worked in Brampton and used their shuttle service.
A few years ago my car was towed to them due to transmission issue. They tried to force us to tow it back to our Markham dealership on our own dime. I understand warranty repair doesn't make much money for the dealership but come on... Pretty sure they don't lose money.. anyway, it took us and the Markham dealership a great deal of convincing and threatened to complain to Hyundai headoffice to get them to replace the transmission. They still charged us a few bucks for some fastener or something stupid.

[raj1008]

I just bought a 2011 Genesis coupe 2.0 Auto base for 31,200 otr

[weedb0y]

Congrats! is that the OTD price? That price seems below cost! I know they offer a rebate of $4000 if you pay cash or finance at 3.6% but your price seems pretty low. Was it a demo or something?

Here are the numbers my dealer worked out: Dealer cost on that car with Freight and Air Tax is 27,858. Add the $760 in there for profit, your at $28,618 before tax. Add the HST (13%) of $3720.34 brings the grand total to $32338 + license + few other misc fees (OMVIC, PPSA).

BTW, post pics. Those cars are sweet.

Let me clarify, 30,000 + 13% tax for 2011 Premium Gen Coupe.

Bought it from Vinod at Cooksville Hyundai. Manager was great and they really played no games, looked at my carcost report and we started talking!

[FatWallet]

I'm in the market for a new car and looking seriously at the elantra GL.

I rented one recently and drove the hell out of it. I wasn't impressed, especially with the seats. My 1995 Firebird has better seats. On the other hand, I'm very impressed with the Genesis.

[BowlingGreenC]

OK it's official - Brian Tan is the best. He's not weird, shady, dishonest, sneaky, - just straight up best price, best deal, honest, super nice guy. Didn't know car salespeople could be normal - he is awesome. Thank you for the referrals from this board - he gave us a great price and great service - he's tech savvy, he understands that time is at a premium - I hope we don't have to buy cars again for a long long time, but I hope we can go back to him again when the time comes.

Brian Tan - Hyundai of Mississauga - his contact info is in this thread or just call hyundai of mississauga and ask for him.

905-828-5923
2450 Motorway Blvd.
Mississauga, ON
L5L 1X3

We get nothing from this referral - we don't even live near Mississauga - we've just been through the (two) car search/buying experience everywhere from Niagara to Brampton (and Toronto by email quotes) and he's the absolute winner.

I agree with this testimonial 100%! I just bought a Hyundai from Brian Tan at Hyundai Mississauga this week. Not only was the price great (2% over dealer cost), Brian was quick to reply to my phone call and emails, and was very pleasant, efficient & professional to deal with. No hassles or haggling. Very pleasant experience overall.

My wife independently priced the exact model from another Hyundai Dealership, and she was quoted over $1000 more. When she told her saleslady the price I got, the response was "How can that be? That price is below cost". So Brian's the person we strongly recommend if you are looking for a Hyundai. Tell Brian you want the "Red Flag Deals discount".

[DudebuD]

Just bought my first new car from Bobby at Team Hyundai. My uncle referred me to him as he is also in the business, and every preconceived notion I had of car salesmen other than my uncle pretty much went out the window with him. He gave me a complete breakdown of the price, didnt play any games and was willing to take care of me. Truly an honest guy and i'll be recommending family and friends, and you as well, to pay him a visit.

If you have any questions shoot me a pm.

[VTECMAN]

I dealt with Chris Vartarassen(sp) at Hyundai of Oakville. He's one of the managers there and was a no-nonsense guy. I would definitely deal with and recommend him to anyone.

[MrSnazzyDeals]

Let me clarify, 30,000 + 13% tax for 2011 Premium Gen Coupe.

Bought it from Vinod at Cooksville Hyundai. Manager was great and they really played no games, looked at my carcost report and we started talking!

Guess that was an auto, eh? When I ran the numbers just assumed you bought stick. Paddle shifting 4TW :)

What colour did you go with? I still can't believe they made a RWD sports car. Props to them for that. Should be a blast to drive. Sweet!!!

[CarCar1979]

Anyone know of what the August Hyundai promotions will be?

When I was test driving the Touring a few weeks back, the dealership said that the 0% for 84 months end July 31st.

[Konowl]

How did you like the touring? Can't beat 84 months.

[Cytosol]

I've been driving an old '95 accent for 3 years. It's actually a decent little car, and I haven't had any major problems with it. Starts up flawlessly each time in the winter, even hitting -40. I'm in the market for a new Hyundai in the next couple months, and taking a serious look at the new 2012 Accent, GL Hatch.

Unfortunately they are only offering 3.9% financing right now. I ran a carcost report, and there isn't much wiggle room on it for haggling. When does the interest rate usually come down on these newer cars? Think it's worth waiting for, or should I just bite the bullet and go for it?

How is the Elantra touring? I was taking a good look at that one also; 84mo, 0% financing is very attractive. It's a well rated car also, even though i'm not entirely sold on the looks. I might go test drive one this weekend is over. I wouldn't be surprised if the extend the financing on that one, at least until the 2012 Elantra Touring comes out.

[CarCar1979]

The Touring was pretty good actually. But we test drove the GLS, and after consideration, we'd want to buy the GLS Sport. The major difference driving-wise would be the wheels (17" on the GLS Sport vs. the 15" on the GLS). I am told that the bigger wheels can make the ride bumpier, so we'll have to test drive the Sprt to be sure.

And as far as the look of the Touring goes - LOVE it! So much room, and has a European look too. It's really nice. We'll definitely be getting either the 2011 or 2012. The 2012 has no changes to it. (It's the 2013 that will be redesigned).

Also - as many have said in this thread, Brian Tan is the way to go - he has the best price, and is very friendly and no-nonsense!!

[Cytosol]

Nice, i'm excited to give it a try. Are they even doing a new 2012 model of the touring? I'm surprised it isn't available yet. I don't want to wait another year to get a car, so the 2013 touring would be out of the question.

The 2011 GLS Touring comes to $267/month list (84mo @ 0%), which is very affordable for me..... I'm seriously considering this now. This would be an awesome car for camping. The GLS sport comes in at just under $300 with the same terms, and loaded with all the features I need.

Conversely, the 2012 Accent GL Auto comes in at $280/mo (72mo @ 3.59%).


What do you guys think? Anyone else own the touring, and do you recommend it?

[pfbmgd]

Anyone know of what the August Hyundai promotions will be?

When I was test driving the Touring a few weeks back, the dealership said that the 0% for 84 months end July 31st.

Just came back from the dealer on Lakeshore .He said the promotion is over at the end of July .

Anyone now how much wiggle room there is on the Tucson ? I`m looking at the 2011 Limited for 32K?

[Konowl]

Just came back from the dealer on Lakeshore .He said the promotion is over at the end of July .


Damn there goes that idea.

[Non-Imbroglio]

Nice, i'm excited to give it a try. Are they even doing a new 2012 model of the touring? I'm surprised it isn't available yet. I don't want to wait another year to get a car, so the 2013 touring would be out of the question.

The 2011 GLS Touring comes to $267/month list (84mo @ 0%), which is very affordable for me..... I'm seriously considering this now. This would be an awesome car for camping. The GLS sport comes in at just under $300 with the same terms, and loaded with all the features I need.

Conversely, the 2012 Accent GL Auto comes in at $280/mo (72mo @ 3.59%).


What do you guys think? Anyone else own the touring, and do you recommend it?

We got a 2010 Touring last summer. Great car but sadly we don't use it much because we bought an SUV. Your right about the 17 inch wheels being bumpier. My wife was pregnant when we got it and she refused the sport model :(

Anyway this car is very decent for the money. Handles well ( not as nice as my old Mazda3 but good enough). Cargo space and seating is simply awesome. When colleagues jump in the car they are surprised by all the leg and shoulder room.

Cheers

[tbernie]

how about the ottawa region any sales rep recommendations? Not really planning on going to toronto :|

[dbreaka]

I just got a service recall for my 2011 Santa Fe 2.4L.

I didn't ask what the issue was, but they need the car for an entire day to complete the repair.

I'll find out more and edit this post when I bring it back to the dealership for service.

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[EDIT1] 2011-AUG-3 - 4:00PM

Found this off a quick Google Search:

Latest 2011 Hyundai Santa Fe Recalls
2011 Hyundai SANTA FE Recall
Recall Date: 2010-12-09
Component Affected: SERVICE BRAKES, HYDRAULIC:FOUNDATION COMPONENTS:DISC:CALIPER
Potential Cars Affected: 1,785

It's funny because I bought my car in June 2011. That means I was sold a vehicle with a known issue since the recall was issued in 2010-DEC-09.

[pete]

I just got a service recall for my 2011 Santa Fe 2.4L.

I didn't ask what the issue was, but they need the car for an entire day to complete the repair.

I'll find out more and edit this post when I bring it back to the dealership for service.


let us know!

[Nikitty]

I just got a service recall for my 2011 Santa Fe 2.4L.

I didn't ask what the issue was, but they need the car for an entire day to complete the repair.

I'll find out more and edit this post when I bring it back to the dealership for service.


yes i would be interested too. we just bought a 2011 Santa Fe. picked it up on Friday.

[RedMosquito]

bought a genesis coupe 2.0t base from mountain hyundai in hamilton a couple weeks ago, paid about $600 over invoice. so far i really like the car, love driving a manual transmission again

[revlis]

We bought a Touring GL a couple weeks ago, and I really like it so far. Engine is super quiet, and it handles like a little sports car. The only thing I'm less than thrilled about is that compared to it's competition, it has very bland interior styling (the GLS is a bit better). Lots of room in the back, and in the hatch. Can't beat the price with 0% for 84 months.

[Konowl]

Apa website lists a 2700 cash incentive for the touring but can't find this info anywhere else - is it true??

[CarCar1979]

Apa website lists a 2700 cash incentive for the touring but can't find this info anywhere else - is it true??

I'd love to hear more about this as well!

Or does anyone know if the 0% for 84 months has been extended into August?

[Konowl]

Its been extented from what I can tell from the hyundai webpage

[Nikitty]

i think you can until the end of august but only up to 72 months. 84 is only in Quebec.
you can still get a gas card too.



I'd love to hear more about this as well!

Or does anyone know if the 0% for 84 months has been extended into August?

[Cheap Dave]

I agree with this testimonial 100%! I just bought a Hyundai from Brian Tan at Hyundai Mississauga this week. Not only was the price great (2% over dealer cost), Brian was quick to reply to my phone call and emails, and was very pleasant, efficient & professional to deal with. No hassles or haggling. Very pleasant experience overall.

My wife independently priced the exact model from another Hyundai Dealership, and she was quoted over $1000 more. When she told her saleslady the price I got, the response was "How can that be? That price is below cost". So Brian's the person we strongly recommend if you are looking for a Hyundai. Tell Brian you want the "Red Flag Deals discount".

We bought a 2011 Santa Fe from Brian last week and he was a pleasure to deal with. Anyone considering getting in on this deal should give Brian a call or drop him an email. He'll reply quickly (he also talks quickly!). He went the extra mile to ensure we were well taken care of and seems to genuinely care. Right off the bat his offer was over $2,000 better than another dealership I won't mention. Don't forget to tell him you're coming from RFD ;)

[total90]

My wife and I also had the pleasure to buy a 2012 Accent 5 Door Hatchback from Brian Tan. He was very clear and honest with all the numbers. If you are looking for a Hyundai, just go visit him in Mississauga.

[pfbmgd]

Any idea when the 2012 Santa Fe arrives ?

[MIKEYLIKESIT]

ANYBODY know what sort of Credit Rating I need to take advantage of this offer??? Any input would be VERY much appreciated.

THANKS !!!

[cruisx]

Hi guys, Im looking to buy my first car for university 2nd year and we are now looking at many makes. I was wondering do you guys recommend this Hyuandai deal for someone who will be drvinng 45min each way every day?

Also what model do you suggest? I was thinking about buying a honda but i hear that this year Hyuandai stepped up their game quite a bit.

[Col127]

What model did you get and what was your price? Looking at that vehicle... Thanks!


My wife and I also had the pleasure to buy a 2012 Accent 5 Door Hatchback from Brian Tan. He was very clear and honest with all the numbers. If you are looking for a Hyundai, just go visit him in Mississauga.

[adaguann]

My wife and I also had the pleasure to buy a 2012 Accent 5 Door Hatchback from Brian Tan. He was very clear and honest with all the numbers. If you are looking for a Hyundai, just go visit him in Mississauga.

Congrats on your purchase.

If you don't mind sharing your thoughts/opinion, we are in the market for something similar (Accent 5D/Rio 5/Diesel Golf).

What options/configuration did you select ?

Regards,
Aldo

[zero_]

I'd love to hear more about this as well!

Or does anyone know if the 0% for 84 months has been extended into August?


the 2700 rebate for touring is when you pay with cash

it can not be combined with any finance deal

this is the same rebate that has been going on since early this year

[Konowl]

Tried emailing brian no response. Are their tourings anywhere??

[redflag999]

how about the ottawa region any sales rep recommendations? Not really planning on going to toronto :|

Second that. If anyone in the Ottawa area knows of a decent/good sales rep, much appreciated

[total90]

We were simply attracted by the Accent's appearance and fuel efficiency. I've always been driving compact cars (Lancer and Civic), so I didn't expect a lot when I test drove it (it was the basic L model). The drive was very smooth and the pick up from 0-60km was really quick (with three people in the car). The interior is superior compared to other subcompact cars, and it's very spacious with regards to cargo space. It offers a lot for its price, and we got the GL model. For approx $2000 more, you get the 16" alloy rims, sunroof, fog lights, heated seats, mirror signals, bluetooth, etc. (you can check the website for details). I only needed the bigger rims, so I will just get rims elsewhere for. If money is not a huge factor, I'd say go for the GLS model. I didn't really look into RIO or Diesel Golf so I can't comment. For the money and performance, I think Accent is probably the best deal out there.



Congrats on your purchase.

If you don't mind sharing your thoughts/opinion, we are in the market for something similar (Accent 5D/Rio 5/Diesel Golf).

What options/configuration did you select ?

Regards,
Aldo

[NewBuyer]

We were simply attracted by the Accent's appearance and fuel efficiency. I've always been driving compact cars (Lancer and Civic), so I didn't expect a lot when I test drove it (it was the basic L model). The drive was very smooth and the pick up from 0-60km was really quick (with three people in the car). The interior is superior compared to other subcompact cars, and it's very spacious with regards to cargo space. It offers a lot for its price, and we got the GL model. For approx $2000 more, you get the 16" alloy rims, sunroof, fog lights, heated seats, mirror signals, bluetooth, etc. (you can check the website for details). I only needed the bigger rims, so I will just get rims elsewhere for. If money is not a huge factor, I'd say go for the GLS model. I didn't really look into RIO or Diesel Golf so I can't comment. For the money and performance, I think Accent is probably the best deal out there.

I am also in the market for 2012 Accent GL hatchback too. What is your on the road price if you dont mind to share. Thanks.

[bigb159]

I got this deal with an Elantra Touring. 80$ to fill her up twice a month (30c card is good for 100L or 1 year).
Too bad I can't pay the installments with my airmiles credit card. Now if anyone knows how to do this, I would be eternally grateful!

[woodstock827]

Pretty much the same mindset when I bought my 2012 Accent Hatch. I just got the GL too and will get the rims somewhere else later when these tires run out.

I didn't get (or ask for) any discount though since I'm financing anyway. so just follow the website price and that's pretty much your price (plus if you want the rust proofing, extended warranty etc).


We were simply attracted by the Accent's appearance and fuel efficiency. I've always been driving compact cars (Lancer and Civic), so I didn't expect a lot when I test drove it (it was the basic L model). The drive was very smooth and the pick up from 0-60km was really quick (with three people in the car). The interior is superior compared to other subcompact cars, and it's very spacious with regards to cargo space. It offers a lot for its price, and we got the GL model. For approx $2000 more, you get the 16" alloy rims, sunroof, fog lights, heated seats, mirror signals, bluetooth, etc. (you can check the website for details). I only needed the bigger rims, so I will just get rims elsewhere for. If money is not a huge factor, I'd say go for the GLS model. I didn't really look into RIO or Diesel Golf so I can't comment. For the money and performance, I think Accent is probably the best deal out there.

[Cytosol]

Im still leaning towards the Accent GL hatchback. How is the cargo room in this? I do a lot of camping, so i'm curious if it's enough room to hold a couple coolers, tent, misc. equipment and a dog? Has anyone taken the hatch camping yet?

Also, i'm curious if it would be possible to get a cargo box on this car? Am I better off upgrading to the elantra touring?

[bigb159]

Im still leaning towards the Accent GL hatchback. How is the cargo room in this? I do a lot of camping, so i'm curious if it's enough room to hold a couple coolers, tent, misc. equipment and a dog? Has anyone taken the hatch camping yet?

Also, i'm curious if it would be possible to get a cargo box on this car? Am I better off upgrading to the elantra touring?

I test drove the Accent and did not like how flimsy it felt, though the interior is nicer than the Touring.
The touring is great for cargo space!

[napoleon1769]

Why is the touring so much higher in gas consumption?

[Phils]

Im still leaning towards the Accent GL hatchback. How is the cargo room in this? I do a lot of camping, so i'm curious if it's enough room to hold a couple coolers, tent, misc. equipment and a dog? Has anyone taken the hatch camping yet?

Also, i'm curious if it would be possible to get a cargo box on this car? Am I better off upgrading to the elantra touring?

If you compare the hatchback tot he sedan, the hatchback seems quite a bit shorter. When you open the trunk of the sedan, the luggage space is quite impressive. Less so on the hatchback and I think it's because the hatchnack is a smaller car lengthwise.


Why is the touring so much higher in gas consumption?

The touring is an elantra, heavier and previous technology. For example, it doesn't have the 6 speed automatic transmission. Nice car though.

[Madevilz]

Damn it, a bit too late to get on the promo. Just got the news that my car engine is pretty much dead and got about 2 months left...
Really interested in the Elantra, hopefully a new promo coming soon :cry:

[redplanet]

would anyone happen to know if the promotion can be extended (maybe at least partially) to 2011 Elantra (non-Touring) model at all? I'm a lot more interested in this model due to its higher fuel efficiency.

[adaguann]

We were simply attracted by the Accent's appearance and fuel efficiency. I've always been driving compact cars (Lancer and Civic), so I didn't expect a lot when I test drove it (it was the basic L model). The drive was very smooth and the pick up from 0-60km was really quick (with three people in the car). The interior is superior compared to other subcompact cars, and it's very spacious with regards to cargo space. It offers a lot for its price, and we got the GL model. For approx $2000 more, you get the 16" alloy rims, sunroof, fog lights, heated seats, mirror signals, bluetooth, etc. (you can check the website for details). I only needed the bigger rims, so I will just get rims elsewhere for. If money is not a huge factor, I'd say go for the GLS model. I didn't really look into RIO or Diesel Golf so I can't comment. For the money and performance, I think Accent is probably the best deal out there.

I also want the 16" wheels. Too bad is not an option on the GL. When up sizing the wheels, will it not effect the speedometer or can a laymen configure the vehicle for 16 wheels ?

[woodstock827]

I also want the 16" wheels. Too bad is not an option on the GL. When up sizing the wheels, will it not effect the speedometer or can a laymen configure the vehicle for 16 wheels ?

as long as the overall diameter (including the tires) are the same it would not affect the speedometer.
the P175/70TR14 and the P195/50HR16 on the GL and GLS have the same overall diameter. Any decent tire shop can recommend a suitable tire size for you as well.

[shiny]

I bought my 2009 Hyundai Santa Fe 18 months ago and last month the back brakes seized. Brought it to the dealer and they said this is not under warranty (I have not contacted the head office yet). They had to put some grease on the parts of the back brakes and the problem went away. This cost me 130 + taxes. They told me I have to do this brakes service every year to avoid the problem. No F**king way. I did not have this problem with my previous cars: Toyota, Nissan ...

Now that my back brake pads wear-out more than my front brake pads. How could this be? It should be the other way around.

I have been following the required services of the car, suggested in the maintenance schedule. They do not mention anything about this service of the brakes every year.

Moreover, the workmanship is not that good. One of the screws of my back bumper is loose and the bumper is coming off. They tried to screw it back in but it keeps coming out.

My advice: think twice before buying a Hyundai. Make a search on the internet then you sill see many complains about this back brake seized problem. They still have a design flaw in the brakes system.

[danfromwaterloo]

I bought my 2009 Hyundai Santa Fe 18 months ago and last month the back brakes seized. Brought it to the dealer and they said this is not under warranty (I have not contacted the head office yet). They had to put some grease on the parts of the back brakes and the problem went away. This cost me 130 + taxes. They told me I have to do this brakes service every year to avoid the problem. No F**king way. I did not have this problem with my previous cars: Toyota, Nissan ...

Now that my back brake pads wear-out more than my front brake pads. How could this be? It should be the other way around.

I have been following the required services of the car, suggested in the maintenance schedule. They do not mention anything about this service of the brakes every year.

Moreover, the workmanship is not that good. One of the screws of my back bumper is loose and the bumper is coming off. They tried to screw it back in but it keeps coming out.

My advice: think twice before buying a Hyundai. Make a search on the internet then you sill see many complains about this back brake seized problem. They still have a design flaw in the brakes system.

Sorry to hear this. I have a 2007 Santa Fe, and have had little problems with both the dealership, warranty, or any big problems. I had the ball joints replaced under warranty with no problems. Never had an issue with the brakes, and in fact, I just recently replaced them - got almost 100K with the original OEM brakes.

Regardless of the make or model of cars, there's gonna be bad experiences. I think your experience is not reflective of the average, which has been overwhelmingly positive.

[Konowl]

Anyone have any idea when the 0% for 84 will return for the tucson? Test drove one and quite liked it.

[adaguann]

as long as the overall diameter (including the tires) are the same it would not affect the speedometer.
the P175/70TR14 and the P195/50HR16 on the GL and GLS have the same overall diameter. Any decent tire shop can recommend a suitable tire size for you as well.

Okay thanks. Sounds good.

[pfbmgd]

Anyone have any idea when the 0% for 84 will return for the tucson? Test drove one and quite liked it.

Probably next month .Hyundai has these all the time .

[Albertan]

as long as the overall diameter (including the tires) are the same it would not affect the speedometer.
the P175/70TR14 and the P195/50HR16 on the GL and GLS have the same overall diameter. Any decent tire shop can recommend a suitable tire size for you as well.

Call the Tire Rack at 1-888-541-1777 and ask them if they have any rims that will fit yet - they don't on their site but they should within the next month or two.

[GreyingJay]

Second that. If anyone in the Ottawa area knows of a decent/good sales rep, much appreciated

I haven't actually purchased so I can't vouch for good deals, but Sean from Myers Hyundai in Bell's Corners was straight up, honest and a pleasure to deal with. Ultimately I decided to wait a bit longer but if I had gone ahead with a purchase of the Tucson, I would have been happy to give my business to him.

Avoid Roy from Myers Kanata Hyundai, he got my contact info from a CCC request and wouldn't leave me alone. Then when I politely told him to back off, I received an extremely rude and unprofessional email in response.

[twopointfivebar]

Picked up my Genesis Coupe 2.0T Premium from Ontario Hyundai back in April. They didn't have the $0.30 off/liter promo on this particular car, but they included 5 years of FREE oil changes. I think thats a better deal. I only pay $4.50 for environmental disposal fee each time.

Also, they knocked the Plan B 7 years/140,000 km extended warranty from $1700 down to $1100, lifetime undercoat from $595 down to $295, and walk-away insurance for 1 year.

[Konowl]

I haven't actually purchased so I can't vouch for good deals, but Sean from Myers Hyundai in Bell's Corners was straight up, honest and a pleasure to deal with. Ultimately I decided to wait a bit longer but if I had gone ahead with a purchase of the Tucson, I would have been happy to give my business to him.

Avoid Roy from Myers Kanata Hyundai, he got my contact info from a CCC request and wouldn't leave me alone. Then when I politely told him to back off, I received an extremely rude and unprofessional email in response.

Hmm. I didn't mind roy - offered me ccc + 2% no admin charge free accessories before I even asked

[Konowl]

Picked up my Genesis Coupe 2.0T Premium from Ontario Hyundai back in April. They didn't have the $0.30 off/liter promo on this particular car, but they included 5 years of FREE oil changes. I think thats a better deal. I only pay $4.50 for environmental disposal fee each time.

Also, they knocked the Plan B 7 years/140,000 km extended warranty from $1700 down to $1100, lifetime undercoat from $595 down to $295, and walk-away insurance for 1 year.

How much over invoice you pay??

[GreyingJay]

Hmm. I didn't mind roy - offered me ccc + 2% no admin charge free accessories before I even asked

I have no doubt he would have offered me the same once he finally got me in there. I just felt the tone of his (multiple) emails and the voice message he left on my parents' machine (CCC had OLD contact data for me) struck me as being a little over-the-top, and the final straw was that last rude email.

I'm all for low prices but I also want a salesperson who is respectful and professional.

[kuyaxx]

Any info about Sept. rates would be for 2012 model?

[tbernie]

Hmm. I didn't mind roy - offered me ccc + 2% no admin charge free accessories before I even asked

mind I ask what vehicle that was?

[Konowl]

2012 tucson

[scouzer]

I bought my 2009 Hyundai Santa Fe 18 months ago and last month the back brakes seized. Brought it to the dealer and they said this is not under warranty (I have not contacted the head office yet). They had to put some grease on the parts of the back brakes and the problem went away. This cost me 130 + taxes. They told me I have to do this brakes service every year to avoid the problem. No F**king way. I did not have this problem with my previous cars: Toyota, Nissan ...

Now that my back brake pads wear-out more than my front brake pads. How could this be? It should be the other way around.

I have been following the required services of the car, suggested in the maintenance schedule. They do not mention anything about this service of the brakes every year.

Moreover, the workmanship is not that good. One of the screws of my back bumper is loose and the bumper is coming off. They tried to screw it back in but it keeps coming out.

My advice: think twice before buying a Hyundai. Make a search on the internet then you sill see many complains about this back brake seized problem. They still have a design flaw in the brakes system.

Honestly these problems are pretty small... I am no Hyundai fan but you are making a big hoopla over pretty minor issues.

[Inno]

Does the Genesis 2.0 T get better mileage?


I have one and it's really not that bad. I get around 8L avg right now and thats with alot of stop and go driving. On long trips I can usually get around 6-6.5 and that is keeping up with traffic not doing 95 in a 100 like I notice from some people. Unfortunately it only has a 4spd Auto but on the plus side its pretty quick and downshifts nicely when you need it. We bought ours because the rear seat space is far superior, especially with a rear facing child seat. Trunk fits a ton of stuff. And the handling is very nice with the 4 wheel independent suspension. The Sedan doesn't have rear independent suspension so it almost seems like a step backwards in the handling dept. I will say the Sedan is nice looking and the interior is a bit more sophisticated. But we are very happy with the Touring. If I could only swap that 2.0 with a Genesis 2.0T I would be a very happy camper :)

[peeboy]

Honestly these problems are pretty small... I am no Hyundai fan but you are making a big hoopla over pretty minor issues.

Sorry I disagree. Spending $130 + taxes every year for brake maintenance sounds pretty substantial to me for a new car, let alone the fact that I've never heard of this happening on any of the other cars I've owned. The vendor should definitely pointed this out.

[GreyingJay]

Honestly these problems are pretty small... I am no Hyundai fan but you are making a big hoopla over pretty minor issues.

How is "the brakes seized, out of warranty, on a less than two year old car" considered a "pretty small" problem?

[scouzer]

How is "the brakes seized, out of warranty, on a less than two year old car" considered a "pretty small" problem?

Compared to the nightmare that was my Pontiac Pursuit or the rust bucket issues Mazda 3's have.... that's small.

[Explode]

I bought my 2009 Hyundai Santa Fe 18 months ago and last month the back brakes seized. Brought it to the dealer and they said this is not under warranty (I have not contacted the head office yet). They had to put some grease on the parts of the back brakes and the problem went away. This cost me 130 + taxes. They told me I have to do this brakes service every year to avoid the problem. No F**king way. I did not have this problem with my previous cars: Toyota, Nissan ...

Now that my back brake pads wear-out more than my front brake pads. How could this be? It should be the other way around.

I have been following the required services of the car, suggested in the maintenance schedule. They do not mention anything about this service of the brakes every year.

Moreover, the workmanship is not that good. One of the screws of my back bumper is loose and the bumper is coming off. They tried to screw it back in but it keeps coming out.

My advice: think twice before buying a Hyundai. Make a search on the internet then you sill see many complains about this back brake seized problem. They still have a design flaw in the brakes system.

I don't know about your car but I am looking at the Manual for the Elantra and it clearly states that every 12 months that the front and rear brake disc/pads and calipers need to be inspected. You might not have to pay to repair them that often but not having your breaks inspected once a year isn't good. Breaks are something that happen with normal use of a vehicle so it isn't something that a warranty would cover. Should they fill your gas tank and give you free oil changes as well.

[ketsana]

bought a genesis coupe 2.0t base from mountain hyundai in hamilton a couple weeks ago, paid about $600 over invoice. so far i really like the car, love driving a manual transmission again

Mosquito,
Can you tell me what you payed? PM me if you like.

[yourmemory]

why not just post the price here so everyone can see? what difference does it make?

[pfbmgd]

why not just post the price here so everyone can see? what difference does it make?

:arrowu: with that .

[ChoW_MeiN]

Hey sorry guys, I wasn't at the computer for most of the day...I'd rather not post the actual price here as I don't think it would be fair to a lot of the other salesmen if I put it up, I got a really really good deal on it and I don't think it's realistic for a lot of people to get that price...I've been answering some PM's though, so if you really do want to know, I'd be glad to answer through there

Might seem like I'm trolling guys, but I'm not trying to, just playing it on the safe side in case a whole bunch of people go to the salesman I got the car from, or any other salesman for that matter, and demanding the same price since everyone's circumstances are different

[CHIA]

Hey sorry guys, I wasn't at the computer for most of the day...I'd rather not post the actual price here as I don't think it would be fair to a lot of the other salesmen if I put it up, I got a really really good deal on it and I don't think it's realistic for a lot of people to get that price...I've been answering some PM's though, so if you really do want to know, I'd be glad to answer through there

Might seem like I'm trolling guys, but I'm not trying to, just playing it on the safe side in case a whole bunch of people go to the salesman I got the car from, or any other salesman for that matter, and demanding the same price since everyone's circumstances are different

LOL, ya, ok.

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[mack]

Hey sorry guys, I wasn't at the computer for most of the day...I'd rather not post the actual price here as I don't think it would be fair to a lot of the other salesmen if I put it up, I got a really really good deal on it and I don't think it's realistic for a lot of people to get that price...I've been answering some PM's though, so if you really do want to know, I'd be glad to answer through there

Might seem like I'm trolling guys, but I'm not trying to, just playing it on the safe side in case a whole bunch of people go to the salesman I got the car from, or any other salesman for that matter, and demanding the same price since everyone's circumstances are different

I think you are in the wrong forum. RFD is only as good as the deals people SHARE. If you are not sharing, you are not contributing to this great community - please do everyone else a favor and stop trolling.

[Madevilz]

Hey sorry guys, I wasn't at the computer for most of the day...I'd rather not post the actual price here as I don't think it would be fair to a lot of the other salesmen if I put it up, I got a really really good deal on it and I don't think it's realistic for a lot of people to get that price...I've been answering some PM's though, so if you really do want to know, I'd be glad to answer through there

Might seem like I'm trolling guys, but I'm not trying to, just playing it on the safe side in case a whole bunch of people go to the salesman I got the car from, or any other salesman for that matter, and demanding the same price since everyone's circumstances are different

lol.

[Amuthini]

Hey sorry guys, I wasn't at the computer for most of the day...I'd rather not post the actual price here as I don't think it would be fair to a lot of the other salesmen if I put it up, I got a really really good deal on it and I don't think it's realistic for a lot of people to get that price...I've been answering some PM's though, so if you really do want to know, I'd be glad to answer through there

Might seem like I'm trolling guys, but I'm not trying to, just playing it on the safe side in case a whole bunch of people go to the salesman I got the car from, or any other salesman for that matter, and demanding the same price since everyone's circumstances are different

thanks for the info sam luong.

[jakemtl]

Hey sorry guys, I wasn't at the computer for most of the day...I'd rather not post the actual price here as I don't think it would be fair to a lot of the other salesmen if I put it up, I got a really really good deal on it and I don't think it's realistic for a lot of people to get that price...I've been answering some PM's though, so if you really do want to know, I'd be glad to answer through there

Might seem like I'm trolling guys, but I'm not trying to, just playing it on the safe side in case a whole bunch of people go to the salesman I got the car from, or any other salesman for that matter, and demanding the same price since everyone's circumstances are different

If you can get it anyone can get it. Salesperson just wants to sell!

[coriolis]

Has the Veloster arrived at any dealers yet? There's one in Edmonton that has two demos.

[Phils]

For those that are considering the Elantra Limited with automatic transmission you may interested in knowing that I have done recent 2 highway trips - one from Montreal to the Laurentians and last week, Montreal to Albany, NY.

My gas mileage for the first trip was 5.2 L / 100 KM and for the Albany trip, 5.5.
With mixed mileage, I usually do between 6.2 and 6.7.

[kuyaxx]

For those that are considering the Elantra Limited with automatic transmission you may interested in knowing that I have done recent 2 highway trips - one from Montreal to the Laurentians and last week, Montreal to Albany, NY.

My gas mileage for the first trip was 5.2 L / 100 KM and for the Albany trip, 5.5.
With mixed mileage, I usually do between 6.2 and 6.7.

5.2 was amazing mileage!

[ChoW_MeiN]

lol i love the negativity in here for me not posting a price.

And yet, the people who actually took the time to PM me got an actual response from me with a price and all my payment details. All I'm doing is weeding out all the fake buyers from the real buyers, which is what people should be doing anyways. Too many fake people on RFD trying to take advantage of other people's hard work and this way I get to ensure that only the very serious buyers will know what I paid. It's too bad that after all these years on RFD that I have to do it like that, but I'm sick of all the hoarders and selfish people on RFD who only look out for themselves, hit and run on a forum to only benefit themselves.

And thank you to those who actually took the time to PM me, at least I know you're serious unlike all the other children here who feel a sense of entitlement.

LOLOLOL at all you people who think i'm the salesman, get a life people.

[CHIA]

All I'm doing is weeding out all the fake buyers from the real buyers, which is what people should be doing anyways. Too many fake people on RFD trying to take advantage of other people's hard work and this way I get to ensure that only the very serious buyers will know what I paid. It's too bad that after all these years on RFD that I have to do it like that, but I'm sick of all the hoarders and selfish people on RFD who only look out for themselves, hit and run on a forum to only benefit themselves.




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[scouzer]

He's just a massive troll, ignore him...

[Madevilz]

What's the word on the September promotions?

[kenchau]

What's the word on the September promotions?

0% 60 months financing on 2012 Sonata, Genesis (Coupe), and Santa Fe.
2.9% 60 months financing on 2012 Elantra, and Accent.

Just saw that in the Metro newspaper advertisement this morning.

I can't believe they are offering those rates on 2012 models. Wow!

[Madevilz]

0% 60 months financing on 2012 Sonata, Genesis, and Santa Fe.
2.9% 60 months financing on 2012 Elantra, and Accent.

Just saw that in the Metro newspaper advertisement this morning.

I can't believe they are offering those rates on 2012 models. Wow!

nothing on leasing?

[kenchau]

nothing on leasing?

Not on this particular print ad. Perhaps Ting will soon update the other Hyundai Questions thread with full details on all models.

[yourmemory]

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+1

Hehehe... talk about the powertripping ego! What do you mean by real buyer from fake buyer?? LMAO!! That makes no sense!! hahahaha

[ChoW_MeiN]

+1

Hehehe... talk about the powertripping ego! What do you mean by real buyer from fake buyer?? LMAO!! That makes no sense!! hahahaha

Pretty simple actually. Real Buyers are the people who go into an actual dealership with the intention of buying and enter into a contract to purchase, fake buyers are the ones who act like they're interested and go test drive cars, get all sorts of pricing, and then don't buy, thereby wasting everyone's time.

You know what really makes no sense? All of the people on this forum asking me to post the price when in reality, they have no intention of buying a vehicle and are just wasting their time browsing on the forum. And btw, a power tripping ego would entail placing myself on a pedestal above everyone else when in fact the exact opposite is true and I am assisting people as best I can through PM, taking time out of my own day to help people who actually want to purchase a vehicle and get a good deal.

It's too bad that I can't come here offering help without criticism from others, but I guess that's the ways of the internet.

[trilby]

Pretty simple actually. Real Buyers are the people who go into an actual dealership with the intention of buying and enter into a contract to purchase, fake buyers are the ones who act like they're interested and go test drive cars, get all sorts of pricing, and then don't buy, thereby wasting everyone's time.

You know what really makes no sense? All of the people on this forum asking me to post the price when in reality, they have no intention of buying a vehicle and are just wasting their time browsing on the forum. And btw, a power tripping ego would entail placing myself on a pedestal above everyone else when in fact the exact opposite is true and I am assisting people as best I can through PM, taking time out of my own day to help people who actually want to purchase a vehicle and get a good deal.

It's too bad that I can't come here offering help without criticism from others, but I guess that's the ways of the internet.

Please, your story doesn't make sense. You're up to something,

1. So by taking the extra 30 seconds to PM you people are qualifying themselves as 'real buyers'?
2. Why do you care if people are 'real' or not, if you're not the salesman. Or are you just looking out for the dealership out of the goodness of your heart? I'm sure they really appreciate your 'help' and potentially driving away business.

[CHIA]

Please, your story doesn't make sense. You're up to something,

1. So by taking the extra 30 seconds to PM you people are qualifying themselves as 'real buyers'?
2. Why do you care if people are 'real' or not, if you're not the salesman. Or are you just looking out for the dealership out of the goodness of your heart? I'm sure they really appreciate your 'help' and potentially driving away business.

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[nksnks]

on the road less than $27K all in, invoice minus $1K dealer rebate plus $300 commission

RFD says $2K rebate, so maybe price could be even less, really $1300 commission

$30K on the road is full MSRP + taxes etc, w/o any rebate

[Rehan]

I just bought a 2012 Hyundai Sonata GL with auto at the Hyundai dealership on Dufferin yesterday, got a really good deal and the salesman was by far the best salesman I have ever dealt with in my years of buying different cars.

If anyone is interested or wants to buy the same car, let me know, Sang Luong is who I dealt with, if you let him know I referred you he'll probably give you the same deal as me lol What you mean is that if they let him know you referred them, you will get a referral fee. Most dealerships give $100+ per referral.

Don't be a selfish leech.

[Konowl]

Who cares. Back on topic....

0% for 60 months on the Tucson now - or 1750 cash back.

[goofball]

Who cares. Back on topic....

0% for 60 months on the Tucson now - or 1750 cash back.

0%, that's awesome, gonna try to view one soon then!

[Kenny Blankenship]

What's the word on the September promotions?

http://hyundaicanada.com/Pages/SpecialOffer/SalesPromotions.aspx

[RandomSanity]

This is really making me think about buying a Genesis.. I was planning on going Automatic though so I'll most likely end up buying a used 2010 unless anyone can point out any reasons not to?

[Konowl]

0%, that's awesome, gonna try to view one soon then!

I had one a week ago for the day - really liked it. Was suprised that it didn't handle like the typical north american SUV. Gonna pull the trigger on one soon I think.

[mrmccowcow]

This is really making me think about buying a Genesis.. I was planning on going Automatic though so I'll most likely end up buying a used 2010 unless anyone can point out any reasons not to?

2.0t genesis in auto gets horrible gas millage. It's because the automatic has a huge loss in pwoer due to the drivetrain (i believe it's around 20-25% loss) so Hyundai put a 4.1 rear axel in it so it still accelerates fairly fast. The problem with this is whenever you cruise, you're running at a higher rpm.

If you're dead set on an auto, get a 3.8 auto if you can.

As for all the talk about the dealership Chow_Mein went to, it's Toronto Hyundai on Dufferin (North of Eglinton). I bought my car (genesis coupe) there also since they sold it for cheap ($300 over invoice) and it was a quick and easy purchase without any extra/bogus fees (admin, etching, pdi, etc). I bought straight from the general sales manager though.

[Toronto_king]

Can some one tell me the mileage for Tucson and Santa...I lease a Murano 07 SL AWD 3.5 Land my lease will be done in the next month...If I have to own it the dealer quoted for $19k something including taxes. I'd have driven 50k kms by then...Market price for 07 Murano for about 80k kms is around 22k/23k.. The problem with Murano is it takes a lot of gas...I really like it on personal front...Can someone advise me which would be the best deal to own my Murano or go for a new SUV/Crossover...

[Survivor2008]

Can some one tell me the mileage for Tucson and Santa...I lease a Murano 07 SL AWD 3.5 Land my lease will be done in the next month...If I have to own it the dealer quoted for $19k something including taxes. I'd have driven 50k kms by then...Market price for 07 Murano for about 80k kms is around 22k/23k.. The problem with Murano is it takes a lot of gas...I really like it on personal front...Can someone advise me which would be the best deal to own my Murano or go for a new SUV/Crossover...


My husband gave up his 04 Murano Sl last week for that reason he spent almost $500 every month on gas. We bought the 2011 Hyundai sonata and he is a big guy but finds it very comfortable and is soooo happy with the fuel consumption. The trunk space is quite large so if you don't really NEED an SUV and you are looking to save $$ on gas I would recommend trying out the Sonata to see if its something you like. We did end up holiding onto the Murano and trading in my car which was an 01 Maxima. I figure if he really needs the power of the Murano in the winter he can drive it on an as needed basis.... anyway, something to think about but he is really happy with the Sonata.

[sexyblackbmw]

anyone know Carcostcanada for The 2011 Sonata Hybrid Premium model?

Which is the best dealer and sales rep to deal with in the Greater Toronto Area? I'm ready to buy today, and I have a trade in, so need someone who's willing to work with me, without low balling my trade.

thanks in advance.

[toopence]

Can some please post the car cost canada invoice for the Sonata GL 2012 please? We are looking to pull the trigger in the next couple of weeks

Thanks

[shopper-X]

anyone know Carcostcanada for The 2011 Sonata Hybrid Premium model?

Which is the best dealer and sales rep to deal with in the Greater Toronto Area? I'm ready to buy today, and I have a trade in, so need someone who's willing to work with me, without low balling my trade.

thanks in advance.


Can some please post the car cost canada invoice for the Sonata GL 2012 please? We are looking to pull the trigger in the next couple of weeks

Thanks

Try searching the 3 Free CarCostCanada reports! (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-3-free-carcostcanada-reports-484563/) thread for Sonata. Almost every 2011 model is ported in there, 2012 probably not yet.

[Survivor2008]

Try searching the 3 Free CarCostCanada reports! (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-3-free-carcostcanada-reports-484563/) thread for Sonata. Almost every 2011 model is ported in there, 2012 probably not yet.



That thread seems to have disappeared - while i was on it. WTF?

[Madevilz]

That thread seems to have disappeared - while i was on it. WTF?

looks like a mod deleted the thread

[shopper-X]

That thread seems to have disappeared - while i was on it. WTF?


looks like a mod deleted the thread

Still works for me.

Here is the 2011 Hyundai Sonata 4dr Sdn 2.0L Auto (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/merged-3-free-carcostcanada-reports-484563/167/#post12897429)


2011 Hyundai Sonata 4dr Sdn 2.0L Auto
Manufacturers Code: EC4
4-door Large Passenger Car

Manufacture warranty
Basic: 5 Years/100,000 km Drivetrain: 5 Years/100,000 km Corrosion: 5 Years/Unlimited km Emissions: 60 Years/100,000 km Roadside Assistance: 3 Years/Unlimited km

Fuel economy
EnerGuide Estimate - City (L/100 km): 9.3
EnerGuide Estimate - Hwy (L/100 km): 6.0


Retail Price * Wholesale Price**
Base $28,999.00 $26,928.00
Freight $1,565.00 $1,565.00
Optional equipment selected
- FEDERAL AIR CONDITIONING EXCISE TAX (-EXTAX) $100.00 $100.00
Totals including all items above $30,664.00 $28,593.00
*Retail Price - Also referred to as the M.S.R.P. or Manufacturer Suggested Retail Price or Retail Factory Price. The price the dealer wants you to pay.
** Wholesale Price - Also referred to as the Dealer Invoice Price, Dealer Factory Price or Dealer Cost. The price the dealer pays for the car, before adjusting for any applicable Factory Incentives. To start your negotiations, take this number, add a fair dealer markup/profit (3%-6% on most cars) and deduct any applicable factory incentive below.
Current Factory Incentive Programs.
Incentive Type Value Term Expiry
Cash Incentives
Graduate Rebate Program/Factory to Customer Rebate $500.00 May 31, 2011
Security Deposit Waiver $0.00 May 31, 2011
Dealer Cash/Factory to Dealer Rebate - Please see General Comments $2,500.00 May 31, 2011
Finance Program
Retail Finance 0.00% 24 May 31, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.90% 24 May 31, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.90% 36 May 31, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 36 May 31, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 48 May 31, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.90% 48 May 31, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.90% 60 May 31, 2011
Retail Finance 0.00% 60 May 31, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - except Quebec - Please see General Comments 3.90% 60/84 May 31, 2011
Future Value Finance - 60 months term/84 months amortization - except Quebec 0.90% 60/84 May 31, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Please see General Comments 3.90% 72 May 31, 2011
Retail Finance 0.90% 72 May 31, 2011
Retail Finance 1.49% 84 May 31, 2011
Smart Finance Rate - Quebec only - Please see General Comments 3.90% 84 May 31, 2011
Lease Program
Promotional Lease Rate 2.40% 36 May 31, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 2.99% 48 May 31, 2011
Promotional Lease Rate 3.99% 60 May 31, 2011
General Comments and Additional Factory Incentive Program Details
The SMART FINANCE RATE can be combined with the Dealer Cash and the Stackable Cash Discount program, if available. Please consult your dealer for further details.
NO SECURITY DEPOSIT required on all leases.
THE GRADUATE REBATE PROGRAM/FACTORY TO CUSTOMER REBATE can be combined with any other available factory incentive. Please check with dealer regarding eligibility and further details. This program is to be applied to the after tax amount.
THE DEALER CASH/FACTORY TO DEALER REBATE applies to deliveries between May 2, 2011 and May 31, 2011 and can only be applied to cash purchases. This program can be combined with the currently available 3.90% Smart Finance rates but can not be combined with any other available factory incentive (including lease and finance rates). This rebate is applied to the before tax amount. Please consult your dealer for further details.
Hyundai Canada is currently offering the PETRO GAS GIFT CARD when purchasing a new eligible 2011 model. With this gift card a customer receives a $0.30/litre up to 1,000 litres of savings at a value of $300 when purchasing fuel at Petro Canada. Please consult your dealer for further details.
Please consult your dealer regarding THE FUTURE VALUE FINANCE PROGRAM for further details.

[Konowl]

I have no doubt he would have offered me the same once he finally got me in there. I just felt the tone of his (multiple) emails and the voice message he left on my parents' machine (CCC had OLD contact data for me) struck me as being a little over-the-top, and the final straw was that last rude email.

I'm all for low prices but I also want a salesperson who is respectful and professional.

Agree with you about Roy now. Funny the games they play.

Went with Ting in Toronto. Long drive but like the guy!

[kuyaxx]

84 months? Is any vehicle that is 7 years old worth the same as brand new? You could buy a 7 year old vehicle for a margin of the cost, no matter what the nameplate. 7 years is a LONG time to be tied down to something that depreciates that much. That might be one of the dumbest decisions I've read today, which leads me to believe this is an April's Fool Day joke. Yes, a dealership can offer that long of a lease/buy, but that's a very bad investment. You should never lease/buy a vehicle beyond 4-5 years max, otherwise its not the same vehicle anymore.

Please, don't buy on those terms.

:facepalm::facepalm:

[adaguann]

We were simply attracted by the Accent's appearance and fuel efficiency. I've always been driving compact cars (Lancer and Civic), so I didn't expect a lot when I test drove it (it was the basic L model). The drive was very smooth and the pick up from 0-60km was really quick (with three people in the car). The interior is superior compared to other subcompact cars, and it's very spacious with regards to cargo space. It offers a lot for its price, and we got the GL model. For approx $2000 more, you get the 16" alloy rims, sunroof, fog lights, heated seats, mirror signals, bluetooth, etc. (you can check the website for details). I only needed the bigger rims, so I will just get rims elsewhere for. If money is not a huge factor, I'd say go for the GLS model. I didn't really look into RIO or Diesel Golf so I can't comment. For the money and performance, I think Accent is probably the best deal out there.

Thanks for the advise.

I purchased a 2011 GL Elantra Touring (standard, last of the 2011) from DVN Hyundai. Ryan was great to deal with. I tried Brian (great guy as well) they they only had the Ls.

[Inno]

Thanks for the advise.

I purchased a 2011 GL Elantra Touring (standard, last of the 2011) from DVN Hyundai. Ryan was great to deal with. I tried Brian (great guy as well) they they only had the Ls.

What were they selling the Elantra Touring Standard for? What gas mileage does this car get?

[adaguann]

What were they selling the Elantra Touring Standard for? What gas mileage does this car get?

The 2011 came with a factory rebate of $2,700 plus the dealer slashed the price to the bone, waved admin, plus gas card.

The gas mileage is so so and no where near the Elantra Sedan.

[AA0913]

a few things to note on the Santa Fe..

1 - all season mats are useless.. pictures look as if they are nice and snug fitting, but in reality they are terrible and loose.

2 - rear bumper protector has changed. older models it looks like a hard plastic, now it's just a piece of what feels like thick sandpaper.. will prevent scratches, but not bumps.. also doesn't cover the entire back.. somewhat of a waste of money.

3 - door sills. not that great... save ourself the money on this.

4 - Ipod cable - I've only used it for charging the phone once. I use a USB key primarily for music. Definitely a nice little feature that none of the dealers mentioned to me.

I got the santa fe about 3 weeks ago now, and still waiting on the Cargo cover, and for them to fix the scratches.


just out of curiosity, did this get sorted out for you, pete?

[Cytosol]

I checked with my local dealership for any remaining 2011 Elantra Tourings, they said they are sold out. But they did mention that they have the 2012 models. Has anyone seen these? Are they based on the new elantra look, or do they still look like the 2011 tourings? The Hyundai website doesn't even show a 2012 Elantra Touring, and I can't find any information on them.

[Survivor2008]

We purchased a 2011 Hyundai Sonata a few weeks ago and still have not received our gas card. Anyone else have this problem - getting kind of frustrated..

[AA0913]

We purchased a 2011 Hyundai Sonata a few weeks ago and still have not received our gas card. Anyone else have this problem - getting kind of frustrated..

gas card should have been presented at delivery.

No worries however, there is a form that you MUST sign to prove you received the card. If you didn't sign it, you should follow up with the Sales Manager of your dealership. Make sure the card is good for 750l if you received your car BEFORE end of August. As of Sept, they cut it back to 600l.

[kuyaxx]

Just signed a contract for Sonata 2012 with Brian Tan from Mississauga Hyundai.
He is awesome, no pressure, no nonsense, very straight forward, and excellent deal as well.
If you are looking for Hyundai, you don't need to buy CCC report, he will pull it out for you.

Call him: 416.881.3992 or 905.606.5081

[Phils]

Has anyone actually seen an Accent GLS Hatchback on the road?

[desertdeal]

Im planning of buying a 21012 Sante Fe AWD Auto GL Premium, other than the freight and a/c charges what other "fees" should I expect from the dealers (exclusive of taxes).

I saw a Sante Fe in ESPRESSO Brown looks nice.....

[Maedhros]

Hey every1....

Im a 19yr old student. Going to my second year of Uni.

I'm looking to pick up a Genesis Coupe 2T. Because of my various summer jobs (been working since I was 16...) I can afford the car, HOWEVER... insurance quotes are about 12k for the year -_-.

Was wondering... is that an accurate quote (remember I got that quote online)? Or can I get a more affordable rate? I have 1 accident claim (not @ fault).

I need a car to commute to school, it's a 1 hour 45 min bus ride. However spending 12k a year on insurance just does NOT make sense to me...

If it were perhaps 800 -900 I could afford it however...12k?!

[scouzer]

Hey every1....

Im a 19yr old student. Going to my second year of Uni.

I'm looking to pick up a Genesis Coupe 2T. Because of my various summer jobs (been working since I was 16...) I can afford the car, HOWEVER... insurance quotes are about 12k for the year -_-.

Was wondering... is that an accurate quote (remember I got that quote online)? Or can I get a more affordable rate? I have 1 accident claim (not @ fault).

I need a car to commute to school, it's a 1 hour 45 min bus ride. However spending 12k a year on insurance just does NOT make sense to me...

If it were perhaps 800 -900 I could afford it however...12k?!

Regardless of whether 12k is reasonable, you aren't going to come CLOSE to 800-900.

[Konowl]

Hey every1....

Im a 19yr old student. Going to my second year of Uni.

I'm looking to pick up a Genesis Coupe 2T. Because of my various summer jobs (been working since I was 16...) I can afford the car, HOWEVER... insurance quotes are about 12k for the year -_-.

Was wondering... is that an accurate quote (remember I got that quote online)? Or can I get a more affordable rate? I have 1 accident claim (not @ fault).

I need a car to commute to school, it's a 1 hour 45 min bus ride. However spending 12k a year on insurance just does NOT make sense to me...

If it were perhaps 800 -900 I could afford it however...12k?!

Buy a beater, get the cheapest insurance possible with no collision, and bank the rest. Your insurance is going to kill you (12k seems awefully high, but you can expect 4-5k I think).

[goofball]

Im planning of buying a 21012 Sante Fe AWD Auto GL Premium, other than the freight and a/c charges what other "fees" should I expect from the dealers (exclusive of taxes).

I saw a Sante Fe in ESPRESSO Brown looks nice.....

Admin fee, we saw this on a quote received today.
Plate transfer maybe?

[desertdeal]

Can anyone please explain the difference between a retail finance rate of 0% for 48 mos from a smart finance rate of 2.99% for 48mos. I read from a Carcost that the dealer cash incentive can be combined with the smart finance rates.

[hightech]

Hi,

I am currently looking for the Car Cost Canada information for the 2011 and 2012 SANTA FE 3.5 GL AWD. Could someone provide me this information. Also, if anyone has this specific model (i.e. basic SANTA FE 3.5 GL AWD) can they comment about any issues, etc. they are having with it?

I want to trade in my 09 Civic for something larger and looking at the price of this vs. other options and want to know what the best deals are going and what dealerships are good to deal with. Feel free to message here or private message me.

Thanks

[lastchild01]

Its sad when the day comes that you can afford to buy a car, outright even, but cant pay for the insurance. Thanks to the BS we deal with here in Toronto.

A couple options:

a) thanks to the wonderful government and the insurance companies, id say in a round about way, they're encouraging you to drive without insurance, you can always go that route ... kind of a joke yeah, but if they pull you over and you fail to show your insurance card, you could always pay the $80 dollar fine and loose 2 demerit points ... just wonderful

b) buy the car under your parents name, insure it under their insurance and get yourself placed as an occasional driver under their policy OR you can also risk it by not placing yourself under coverage, there is family coverage in the fine print of most insurance policies, however if you do get in an accident, the insurance company may not cover your damage or may insist that you be put on the policy going forward. Think about it, isn't possible to lend your car to a friend? isn't it even more possible to lend your car to a son or daughter?

- rant complete


Hey every1....

Im a 19yr old student. Going to my second year of Uni.

I'm looking to pick up a Genesis Coupe 2T. Because of my various summer jobs (been working since I was 16...) I can afford the car, HOWEVER... insurance quotes are about 12k for the year -_-.

Was wondering... is that an accurate quote (remember I got that quote online)? Or can I get a more affordable rate? I have 1 accident claim (not @ fault).

I need a car to commute to school, it's a 1 hour 45 min bus ride. However spending 12k a year on insurance just does NOT make sense to me...

If it were perhaps 800 -900 I could afford it however...12k?!

[ahlavanthan]

Its sad when the day comes that you can afford to buy a car, outright even, but cant pay for the insurance. Thanks to the BS we deal with here in Toronto.

A couple options:

a) thanks to the wonderful government and the insurance companies, id say in a round about way, they're encouraging you to drive without insurance, you can always go that route ... kind of a joke yeah, but if they pull you over and you fail to show your insurance card, you could always pay the $80 dollar fine and loose 2 demerit points ... just wonderful

b) buy the car under your parents name, insure it under their insurance and get yourself placed as an occasional driver under their policy OR you can also risk it by not placing yourself under coverage, there is family coverage in the fine print of most insurance policies, however if you do get in an accident, the insurance company may not cover your damage or may insist that you be put on the policy going forward. Think about it, isn't possible to lend your car to a friend? isn't it even more possible to lend your car to a son or daughter?

- rant complete



Just make sure you change licence address if you choose not to add yourself. Your parents must report EVERYONE in the household who hold a valid licence.

[Konowl]

Can anyone please explain the difference between a retail finance rate of 0% for 48 mos from a smart finance rate of 2.99% for 48mos. I read from a Carcost that the dealer cash incentive can be combined with the smart finance rates.

Exactly - you can combine the cash incentive to receive the smart finance rate.

So if there is a cash rebate of say $1500, you could pay 18500 instead of 20000 and finance the 18500 at the smart finance rate of 2.99% instead of financing 20000 at 0%.

[desertdeal]

Exactly - you can combine the cash incentive to receive the smart finance rate.

So if there is a cash rebate of say $1500, you could pay 18500 instead of 20000 and finance the 18500 at the smart finance rate of 2.99% instead of financing 20000 at 0%.'

Im looking at 2012 AWD V6 AUto GL which has a current incentive of 2500$ for dealer cash/factory to dealer rebate and can be combine with smart finance. The MSRP is 32859$ (inc. a/c tax & freight), hoping to get this @ 30,041$ (i(inc. a/c tax & freight, sales tax).

Note:Just got pre-approved for an auto loan with a local bank for 22k @ 5% for 60 mos, a bit steep I know but was told I can bargain for a lesser rate with the manager. As of now, the dealership smart finance at 2.99% for 48 or 60 mos combine with a 2500$(4000$ for 2011 model) factory to dealer rebate is way better.

[Konowl]

exactly! Give Ting a shout.

[Ziggy007]

Hey every1....

Im a 19yr old student. Going to my second year of Uni.

I'm looking to pick up a Genesis Coupe 2T. Because of my various summer jobs (been working since I was 16...) I can afford the car, HOWEVER... insurance quotes are about 12k for the year -_-.

Was wondering... is that an accurate quote (remember I got that quote online)? Or can I get a more affordable rate? I have 1 accident claim (not @ fault).

I need a car to commute to school, it's a 1 hour 45 min bus ride. However spending 12k a year on insurance just does NOT make sense to me...

If it were perhaps 800 -900 I could afford it however...12k?!

12k? That is a rate reserved for only the most uninsurable people...

When I got my brand new Sonata v6 back in university I was paying about $2400 a year.

You must have entered something wrong along the way...

[desertdeal]

exactly! Give Ting a shout.

I did, just not sure whether he could spare me some time as Im in AB.

[jungle88]

First time I'll be buying a new car
Went to Hyundai Don Valley North in Markham
2012 Hyundai Tucson GL AWD
MSRP + HST + Freight + etc. = On the Road = $32523.66

on Pickup:
$0 down
Pay $2466.35 (includes Freight, OMVIC, etc..+ HST)
60 months finance 0%: $466 (includes HST) per month
Total cost on the road will come to $30426.35

So it'll be only $2097.31 lower that the MSRP + Freight, etc cost.

So I plan to go to a few other dealerships and would very much appreciate if anyone can help so I can better bargain:

If anyone has recently bought a 2012 Hyundai Tucson GL AWD, can you post/PM what you have paid?

if not, what's reasonable $ to ask?

Thanks, Merci, Do jeh, Mh goi, Danke, grazie, Domo arrigato, Obrigado, Spasiba, Gracias, Salamat, Kam ouen, Nandri, Xie_Xie! :)

[hkz808]

does any have any price interest rate or news for the veloster ?

[ryyeung]

First time I'll be buying a new car
Went to Hyundai Don Valley North in Markham
2012 Hyundai Tucson GL AWD
MSRP + HST + Freight + etc. = On the Road = $32523.66

on Pickup:
$0 down
Pay $2466.35 (includes Freight, OMVIC, etc..+ HST)
60 months finance 0%: $466 (includes HST) per month
Total cost on the road will come to $30426.35

So it'll be only $2097.31 lower that the MSRP + Freight, etc cost.

So I plan to go to a few other dealerships and would very much appreciate if anyone can help so I can better bargain:

If anyone has recently bought a 2012 Hyundai Tucson GL AWD, can you post/PM what you have paid?

if not, what's reasonable $ to ask?

Thanks, Merci, Do jeh, Mh goi, Danke, grazie, Domo arrigato, Obrigado, Spasiba, Gracias, Salamat, Kam ouen, Nandri, Xie_Xie! :)

I'm looking for the exact same model. I'm wondering if those same users above could help me out.

Cheers,
Ryan

[jungle88]

I'm looking for the exact same model. I'm wondering if those same users above could help me out.

Cheers,
Ryan

I will need to get it by end of October, so I'll let you know how much I paid.. I'm thinking of get APA..

If you get it before me, please let me know.


Thanks,
Paul

[Maedhros]

Regardless of whether 12k is reasonable, you aren't going to come CLOSE to 800-900.

Guess I gotta take the GO bus for another couple years then...


Buy a beater, get the cheapest insurance possible with no collision, and bank the rest. Your insurance is going to kill you (12k seems awefully high, but you can expect 4-5k I think).

The thing is I don't want to drive a beater lol :| I know that sounds childish... but I'v been working so many years, I'd like a car that has some value to it. Might sound entitled but... I guess I'll just wait it out a couple years.


Its sad when the day comes that you can afford to buy a car, outright even, but cant pay for the insurance. Thanks to the BS we deal with here in Toronto.

A couple options:

a) thanks to the wonderful government and the insurance companies, id say in a round about way, they're encouraging you to drive without insurance, you can always go that route ... kind of a joke yeah, but if they pull you over and you fail to show your insurance card, you could always pay the $80 dollar fine and loose 2 demerit points ... just wonderful

b) buy the car under your parents name, insure it under their insurance and get yourself placed as an occasional driver under their policy OR you can also risk it by not placing yourself under coverage, there is family coverage in the fine print of most insurance policies, however if you do get in an accident, the insurance company may not cover your damage or may insist that you be put on the policy going forward. Think about it, isn't possible to lend your car to a friend? isn't it even more possible to lend your car to a son or daughter?

- rant complete

Yea... insurance rates are crazy...

TBH... I have thought about putting it under my parents name and driving it... however I just can't do it lol. Call me crazy but I just wouldn't be able to live with myself, even if I was paying for it myself.

+ my parents live in Mississauga and I'd be driving around Waterloo... So I suppose the insurance company might create a hassle if worse comes to worse.


12k? That is a rate reserved for only the most uninsurable people...

When I got my brand new Sonata v6 back in university I was paying about $2400 a year.

You must have entered something wrong along the way...


2400 a year? That's 200 a month...

No, I went back and reentered the info again and it's giving me a quote in the 1000+ a month range.

I do have 1 accident... me and the other party were charged, however my ticket was dropped. Damn Toyota Matrix with No snow tires...

(For those who are curious... and I know ppl will ask... I did hit the person, however they were performing an illegal maneuver at the time). Over zealous cop charged me with failure to turn out to left (im guessing because it was me and a friend getting coffee hitting an adult...).

[johnnyblayze]

Need some advice.

Thinking of the Sonata 2.0 limited 2011. CCC states that there is a $2500 factory to dealer incentive for cash purchases. I do want to take advantage of the 0% financing. When making my offer could I ask for invoice plus 3% minus The $2500? Would I have toadmit that I am looking to finance at 0% at this point? I would rather get agreement on price first and stay mum on discussing financing but not sure if that would work.

Thanks!

[Bskll]

Guess I gotta take the GO bus for another couple years then...

The thing is I don't want to drive a beater lol :| I know that sounds childish... but I'v been working so many years, I'd like a car that has some value to it. Might sound entitled but... I guess I'll just wait it out a couple years.

Yea... insurance rates are crazy...

TBH... I have thought about putting it under my parents name and driving it... however I just can't do it lol. Call me crazy but I just wouldn't be able to live with myself, even if I was paying for it myself.

+ my parents live in Mississauga and I'd be driving around Waterloo... So I suppose the insurance company might create a hassle if worse comes to worse.

2400 a year? That's 200 a month...

No, I went back and reentered the info again and it's giving me a quote in the 1000+ a month range.

I do have 1 accident... me and the other party were charged, however my ticket was dropped. Damn Toyota Matrix with No snow tires...

(For those who are curious... and I know ppl will ask... I did hit the person, however they were performing an illegal maneuver at the time). Over zealous cop charged me with failure to turn out to left (im guessing because it was me and a friend getting coffee hitting an adult...).

the most you could have been working is 5 years, i've known people who take the bus for 10 years and not a peep about being able to afford a car.

here is why you have high insurance, you've hit all the triggers for high rate:

sports car, new, financed, 19, male, accident on record, located around GTA, probably g2 license. that is why you have high insurance. out of those factors, there is 4 things you can do to lower rates, drive a non sports car, not new, not financed, and get a full g license. then your insurance will probably drop to 6k. remember that insurance is relative to your car's value. if you have a 40k sports car, then insurance will pay a lot more if it was totaled than a 6k toyota corolla.

200 a month for a new car is cheap.

most people i know are paying 300-350 for new car insurance, and these are people with 6-star records, over age of 25, and purchased car with cash.

[keny10]

I am so happy to leave in Quebec ! Here paying 200 month is when your are very young and have bad report, i paid now 150 month for 2 cars + house i am sorry but they are stealing all your money !

[Danno2005]

I am so happy to leave in Quebec ! Here paying 200 month is when your are very young and have bad report, i paid now 150 month for 2 cars + house i am sorry but they are stealing all your money !

How much do you pay in income taxes? Wait for it ... here's the link.
Quebec residents pay more than double the tax rate vs. Ontario.

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

This of course assumes you are earning an income....


And let's not get into Federal Transfer payments to "Have-not" provinces.
$2,189 per capita for Quebec vs. $1,326 for Ontario.

http://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/mtp-eng.asp

[scouzer]

How much do you pay in income taxes? Wait for it ... here's the link.
Quebec residents pay more than double the tax rate vs. Ontario.

http://www.cra-arc.gc.ca/tx/ndvdls/fq/txrts-eng.html

This of course assumes you are earning an income....


And let's not get into Federal Transfer payments to "Have-not" provinces.
$2,189 per capita for Quebec vs. $1,326 for Ontario.

http://www.fin.gc.ca/fedprov/mtp-eng.asp

Really? You bring in a tax and transfer payment troll into an insurance discussion? lol.

[mack]

2400 a year? That's 200 a month...

No, I went back and reentered the info again and it's giving me a quote in the 1000+ a month range.

I do have 1 accident... me and the other party were charged, however my ticket was dropped. Damn Toyota Matrix with No snow tires...

(For those who are curious... and I know ppl will ask... I did hit the person, however they were performing an illegal maneuver at the time). Over zealous cop charged me with failure to turn out to left (im guessing because it was me and a friend getting coffee hitting an adult...).


Shop around and you'll be surprised at what you can get.

Take me for example:
24, male, 1 minor speeding ticket, one accident (not at fault)

And I bought a 2012 genesis coupe and paying 322 a month for insurance. Keep in mind my address is in Toronto - the home of insanely high insurance rates. I had a Mazda 3 prior and it was going to cost me 390 to insure! The gencoupe is actually cheaper than a mazda3.

Also don't rely on online quotes. Rbc online wanted 12k to insure me. I just lulz I know everyone is different but you live in Waterloo - that should be in the 200s range or less IMO.

Good luck!

[buriboi]

the most you could have been working is 5 years, i've known people who take the bus for 10 years and not a peep about being able to afford a car.

here is why you have high insurance, you've hit all the triggers for high rate:

sports car, new, financed, 19, male, accident on record, located around GTA, probably g2 license. that is why you have high insurance. out of those factors, there is 4 things you can do to lower rates, drive a non sports car, not new, not financed, and get a full g license. then your insurance will probably drop to 6k. remember that insurance is relative to your car's value. if you have a 40k sports car, then insurance will pay a lot more if it was totaled than a 6k toyota corolla.

200 a month for a new car is cheap.

most people i know are paying 300-350 for new car insurance, and these are people with 6-star records, over age of 25, and purchased car with cash.

Well, those people you know can't be particularly bright. I am 30 years old, with a brand new $35,000 car (cash purchase) with no accidents on my driving record, much like the people you describe. Luckily, I pay less than $90 a month for my insurance. That includes 2 million liability, $500 deductibles, full replacement value if written off, etc...all the usual stuff. Anybody who pays 4-5 times that amount doesn't know how to shop comparitively.

[Danno2005]

Really? You bring in a tax and transfer payment troll into an insurance discussion? lol.

No trolling. I see it as a "putting it in perspective".

[kuyaxx]

Well, those people you know can't be particularly bright. I am 30 years old, with a brand new $35,000 car (cash purchase) with no accidents on my driving record, much like the people you describe. Luckily, I pay less than $90 a month for my insurance. That includes 2 million liability, $500 deductibles, full replacement value if written off, etc...all the usual stuff. Anybody who pays 4-5 times that amount doesn't know how to shop comparitively.

Don't forget, where you live also a factor that drive the rates up!

[mikewo]

I'm seriously thinking about a new veloster.

I'd get the base model as it has everything I need. The local dealer quoted me $151.63 biweekly including tax, delivery, etc for the future value financing. Anyone know if that is a good deal?

He said he could probably get a little cheaper by talking to his manager, but he was busy at the time and I couldn't wait around.

[johnnyblayze]

Hot or Not?

$36K all in (ie. taxes, plates, etc.) for a 2012 Sonata Limited 2.0T.

Thoughts?

[rfd_parasite]

Got a quote for a 2012 Elantra GT w/ auto for $22,400 on the road (including HST and etc.) cash.

This a good deal? for it?
Dealer is also offering extended warranty for $1,000 which bumps a lot of the coverage from 5-years to 7-years. You think this is worth it? It's for my sister and not me.

Just looking for your thoughts. Thanks, K

[tapanpatel88]

I'm seriously thinking about a new veloster.

I'd get the base model as it has everything I need. The local dealer quoted me $151.63 biweekly including tax, delivery, etc for the future value financing. Anyone know if that is a good deal?

He said he could probably get a little cheaper by talking to his manager, but he was busy at the time and I couldn't wait around.

I really have my heart set on the veloster as well. However my purchase timeline is 5-6 months from today. $151.63 bi weekly isn't BAD but I would never go for bi-weekly the main reason being not all months have 4 weeks. So in essence (depending how good of a deal you get) you end up paying more than a monthly plan. Since veloster is a brand new model and in mediocre-high demand, I would expect a none-to-minor negotiation margin on it.

Also, try to avoid future value financing. The main reason is that the balloon payment at the end of your 60 months is an obligatory payment to your bank. It's not like a lease where you have an option to return the car - you have to pay that amount to your financial provider and this is especially bad when this amount is MORE than than market value 60 months down the road.

I really do feel that the base model comes pretty loaded. For the extra $3000 tech package, I really don't care for navigation and sunroof (sunroof will decrease headroom by 1-2 inches). The 450W audio system sounds really good but I don't think I will go for the tech package.

[tapanpatel88]

Hot or Not?

$36K all in (ie. taxes, plates, etc.) for a 2012 Sonata Limited 2.0T.

Thoughts?

I would say that's pretty hot for a 2012 model. $36K after tax is basically $31,858 before tax. After you subtract the ~$1500 PDI it comes to approx 30,358 base price. Since the MSRP is $32.4K, you are essentially getting $2000 off MSRP which is approx 6% off MSRP. Just make sure to buy a CCC report to see if there any additional monthly incentives for this car. You could save even more. I would say go for it!

[Malta]

Guess I gotta take the GO bus for another couple years then...



I'm a little late to the party here, but you are going to want to make sure that you've had at least one day of insurance in your life. I used to sell insurance, and I recall quoting someone $12K on a new car. He was 30 and had never had insurance before. So he was automatically a 1*. I told him to go rent a car for one day and send me the receipt. After he could prove the one day of insurance, his rates came down to something like $1500 a year. Every insurance company is different, and this was about 10 years ago, but it's something to consider. Good luck!

[jtung]

I am also looking into a Sonata 2.0T Limited. If you look on carsaver.ca there looks to be an additional 'Manufacturer to Dealer' rebate of $1500.


I would say that's pretty hot for a 2012 model. $36K after tax is basically $31,858 before tax. After you subtract the ~$1500 PDI it comes to approx 30,358 base price. Since the MSRP is $32.4K, you are essentially getting $2000 off MSRP which is approx 6% off MSRP. Just make sure to buy a CCC report to see if there any additional monthly incentives for this car. You could save even more. I would say go for it!

[tapanpatel88]

I am also looking into a Sonata 2.0T Limited. If you look on carsaver.ca there looks to be an additional 'Manufacturer to Dealer' rebate of $1500.

That's not bad at all considering its a 2012 model. I would expect such discounts for a MY 2011. So basically the price for johnnyblayze should be:

30,358 (no point adding PDI since its the same amount as the cash rebate = $1500)
+ 13% tax = ~ $34,300

[tapanpatel88]

Got a quote for a 2012 Elantra GT w/ auto for $22,400 on the road (including HST and etc.) cash.

This a good deal? for it?
Dealer is also offering extended warranty for $1,000 which bumps a lot of the coverage from 5-years to 7-years. You think this is worth it? It's for my sister and not me.

Just looking for your thoughts. Thanks, K

That's ~ $41 per month for the extra 2 years ($1000/24 months). Personally I wouldn't go for it. But it depends if you plan on running the car to the ground. If you do = get it, If you don't = don't...since you won't be able to recope the entire value of $1000 if you decide to sell it 5-7 years down the road.

[sheepe]

Shop around and you'll be surprised at what you can get.

Take me for example:
24, male, 1 minor speeding ticket, one accident (not at fault)

And I bought a 2012 genesis coupe and paying 322 a month for insurance. Keep in mind my address is in Toronto - the home of insanely high insurance rates. I had a Mazda 3 prior and it was going to cost me 390 to insure! The gencoupe is actually cheaper than a mazda3.

Also don't rely on online quotes. Rbc online wanted 12k to insure me. I just lulz I know everyone is different but you live in Waterloo - that should be in the 200s range or less IMO.

Good luck!

Which company are you using? Also, I'm assuming is full coverage?

[gocolts]

Got a quote for a 2012 Elantra GT w/ auto for $22,400 on the road (including HST and etc.) cash.

This a good deal? for it?
Dealer is also offering extended warranty for $1,000 which bumps a lot of the coverage from 5-years to 7-years. You think this is worth it? It's for my sister and not me.

Just looking for your thoughts. Thanks, K

Got a 2012 Elantra GLS auto in Ottawa....they are offering the same warranty (7yr/140k) for $1400....including 20 free oil changes....I am also trying to figure out if it is worth it......

[johnnyblayze]

That's not bad at all considering its a 2012 model. I would expect such discounts for a MY 2011. So basically the price for johnnyblayze should be:

30,358 (no point adding PDI since its the same amount as the cash rebate = $1500)
+ 13% tax = ~ $34,300

I went for it! Worked out to $36014 on the road (this includes $85 for the financing setup fee, $82 for plates, $30 tire stewardship fee, and $5 omvic fee - by the way i looked into these fees and they are appear to be non-negotiable and legit - I did request them to get the plates for me hence the $82 fee).

I pretty much got invoice plus tax.

Only down side is that the 2.0Ts are on back order. Not sure when I will get the car but could be at least a month which kinda sucks!

By the way I was offered the $1500 discount for a cash purchase but I opted for the 60 mth 0% financing.

[gak]

Go to Brian Tan at Mississauga Hyundai. He will show you the invoice price.
I got a similarly priced 2012 Santa Fe GL FWD for less than 2% over invoice.

You can also try easycardiscount.com (Toronto based company).


First time I'll be buying a new car
Went to Hyundai Don Valley North in Markham
2012 Hyundai Tucson GL AWD
MSRP + HST + Freight + etc. = On the Road = $32523.66

on Pickup:
$0 down
Pay $2466.35 (includes Freight, OMVIC, etc..+ HST)
60 months finance 0%: $466 (includes HST) per month
Total cost on the road will come to $30426.35

So it'll be only $2097.31 lower that the MSRP + Freight, etc cost.

So I plan to go to a few other dealerships and would very much appreciate if anyone can help so I can better bargain:

If anyone has recently bought a 2012 Hyundai Tucson GL AWD, can you post/PM what you have paid?

if not, what's reasonable $ to ask?

Thanks, Merci, Do jeh, Mh goi, Danke, grazie, Domo arrigato, Obrigado, Spasiba, Gracias, Salamat, Kam ouen, Nandri, Xie_Xie! :)

[tapanpatel88]

I went for it! Worked out to $36014 on the road (this includes $85 for the financing setup fee, $82 for plates, $30 tire stewardship fee, and $5 omvic fee - by the way i looked into these fees and they are appear to be non-negotiable and legit - I did request them to get the plates for me hence the $82 fee).

I pretty much got invoice plus tax.

Only down side is that the 2.0Ts are on back order. Not sure when I will get the car but could be at least a month which kinda sucks!

By the way I was offered the $1500 discount for a cash purchase but I opted for the 60 mth 0% financing.

Congrats!!! :) I really like this car and was adamant on getting one but instead I will be buying the veloster.

[setell]

Got the 2012 elantra touring GL with old spec for 22,300 OTR. Got floor mats and cargo cover too. Anybody else get the gas card or a grad rebate with the 2012's? I got denied for both and didn't push it at the dealer.

[bungaboy]

From Hyundai Canada's web site. Althought it states NEW 2100MY Elantra Touring, Sonata, Tucson and Genesis Coupe, I wonder if it is because the website hasn't been updated?

The US website states:
WHO’S ELIGIBLE?
You must be a graduate of a four-year university, accredited two-year college, or a nursing school. You must have graduated from a U.S. university within the past two years or be on track to graduate within the next six months. The offer includes graduates and graduate candidates attending accredited masters or doctorate programs. Visit your participating Hyundai dealer for all the details.
The offer is available on any 2011 or 2012 Hyundai model purchased between September 1, 2011 and September 30, 2011.





Graduate Rebate Program


Your parents warned you about the “real-world”. Now you’re in it.

Hyundai knows what it’s like. New job. New apartment. New student loan payments. New life. New wheels.

New wheels? Yes – that’s right! A brand new Hyundai!

Hyundai Auto Canada is offering the following discounts to all new graduates:

Save $500 on a NEW 2011MY Elantra Touring, Sonata, Tucson and Genesis Coupe

If you have graduated within the past two (2) years, or will graduate within four (4) months, you may be eligible for the Hyundai Auto Canada Graduate Rebate Program! Please see your local dealer for complete details.

What are the program rules and regulations?

Qualified customers must meet all of the following criteria:
•Must have graduated within the last two (2) years or will graduate within four (4) months.
•The minimum certificate granted to the graduate must be a University degree, a diploma from a 2-year College program or in Quebec a CEGEP 3-year D.E.C. program.


Eligible vehicles:
•All new unreported Hyundai automobiles listed above including dealer demos, sold or leased to qualified individuals within the program period.


Ineligible vehicles:
•Fleet/courtesy/daily rental vehicles.
•Used units of any make or model year.


Other rules and regulations surrounding the program:
•There is a lifetime limit of one graduate rebate per qualified buyer.
•The vehicle must be registered in the graduate's name.
•All other trade/customer rebates being offered at time of graduate purchase are available to the dealer/customer in addition to the graduate rebate on the sale or lease of a new Hyundai automobile.
•To qualify, customer must inform dealer of their eligibility for the rebate prior to purchase.


No coupon necessary. See your local dealer for details.




Got the 2012 elantra touring with old spec for 22,300 OTR. Got floor mats and cargo cover too. Anybody else get the gas card or a grad rebate with the 2012's? I got denied for both and didn't push it at the dealer.

[setell]

From Hyundai Canada's web site. Althought it states NEW 2100MY Elantra Touring, Sonata, Tucson and Genesis Coupe, I wonder if it is because the website hasn't been updated?

The US website states:

I wonder too as it seems outdated on the Hyundai Canada site. Oh well, I will wait till Oct to see if it changes and then see if my sister can get the $500! I will post the car cost reports for Oct in the next few days as the Sept deals are going to end today. I was a bit upset how my ccc report thre me off a bit. It didn't state that it was old spec or new spec for the GL we got.

Btw buying near end of Q3 and month end is sooo much easier! :cheesygri

[jungle88]

Go to Brian Tan at Mississauga Hyundai. He will show you the invoice price.
I got a similarly priced 2012 Santa Fe GL FWD for less than 2% over invoice.

You can also try easycardiscount.com (Toronto based company).

was it invoice price + 2% + HST?

or

invoice price + Freight + Air Tax + 2% + HST?

I'm supposed to see Brian tomorrow.. pregnant wife permitting..

Thanks!

[Maedhros]

the most you could have been working is 5 years, i've known people who take the bus for 10 years and not a peep about being able to afford a car.

here is why you have high insurance, you've hit all the triggers for high rate:

sports car, new, financed, 19, male, accident on record, located around GTA, probably g2 license. that is why you have high insurance. out of those factors, there is 4 things you can do to lower rates, drive a non sports car, not new, not financed, and get a full g license. then your insurance will probably drop to 6k. remember that insurance is relative to your car's value. if you have a 40k sports car, then insurance will pay a lot more if it was totaled than a 6k toyota corolla.

200 a month for a new car is cheap.

most people i know are paying 300-350 for new car insurance, and these are people with 6-star records, over age of 25, and purchased car with cash.

Like I said... I have more then enough cash to purcahse the car out right.

For the record... I have a G license + Driving School... + Been registered on insurance since G2.

I have been taking the Bus (2.5 hour total 1 way) commute to school for a year and a half. I'v been working for roughly 5 years. I dont mean to sound like an entitled douche but ESPECIALLY after seeing all the Asians driving bmws their dad brought them I'd like to drive a car to School.

Plus my parent's have been driving ****** cars their entire lives (corolla, caravan etc) so I'd like to up1 on my dad :P

[yao416]

Anyone bought a 2012 genesis coupe recently?

PM me please

[kuyaxx]

was it invoice price + 2% + HST?

or

invoice price + Freight + Air Tax + 2% + HST?

I'm supposed to see Brian tomorrow.. pregnant wife permitting..

Thanks!

Invoice + 2% + Freight + a couple other fees + HST (unfortunately...)

[katonfire]

Anyone bought a 2012 genesis coupe recently?

PM me please

pm me too please

[asanand]

Did anyone recently buy a 2012 Sonata Limited without navigation system? Looking to buy one very shortly and will appreciate if someone could PM me or reply to this thread with what I may expect to be a reasonable offer.

[kuyaxx]

Did anyone recently buy a 2012 Sonata Limited without navigation system? Looking to buy one very shortly and will appreciate if someone could PM me or reply to this thread with what I may expect to be a reasonable offer.

Got it from Brian Tan.

[redflag999]

Does anyone know if there is any deal/rebate going on (or coming soon) for the 2012 Elentra other than the 2.9% financing? Thanks

[jungle88]

I went to see Brian Tan at Hyundai Mississauga yesterday after agreeing on a price (which was the best out there) on an Accent Hatchback GL Auto over the phone and I have to say that I will recommend him to all my family and friends if they looking to get a new hyundai.
There were no haggling, explained different items that made up the final price.. very pleasant experience..

I was also very pleasantly surprised with Dave the finance manager, he didn't try to push all the extra's like rustproofing, 7 year comprehensive warranty.. I told him that I'll do some research and he said no probs, just call Brian to add them if I choose to..

prior to going with Brian, I went 3 other dealerships and I wish I could take back the time I wasted with those idiots..

[katonfire]

I went to see Brian Tan at Hyundai Mississauga yesterday after agreeing on a price (which was the best out there) on an Accent Hatchback GL Auto over the phone and I have to say that I will recommend him to all my family and friends if they looking to get a new hyundai.
There were no haggling, explained different items that made up the final price.. very pleasant experience..

I was also very pleasantly surprised with Dave the finance manager, he didn't try to push all the extra's like rustproofing, 7 year comprehensive warranty.. I told him that I'll do some research and he said no probs, just call Brian to add them if I choose to..

prior to going with Brian, I went 3 other dealerships and I wish I could take back the time I wasted with those idiots..


jungle88, whats the number and location of the dealership? and can say you referred me? pm your name if so. thanks

[Ardvark]

We're considering either a Hyundai or Kia for our next automobile, we aren't keen on going new but will if the price is right. We want something with enough towing capacity for at least a utility trailer and I'm not sure any of the Hyundai's qualify for that.... anyone here in the know?

Also, we would be paying cash, should this affect the price beyond the financing fees obviously not being charged?

[jp149]

Well, those people you know can't be particularly bright. I am 30 years old, with a brand new $35,000 car (cash purchase) with no accidents on my driving record, much like the people you describe. Luckily, I pay less than $90 a month for my insurance. That includes 2 million liability, $500 deductibles, full replacement value if written off, etc...all the usual stuff. Anybody who pays 4-5 times that amount doesn't know how to shop comparitively.

YEAH GTA vs Calgary.... OKIE

[bibowski]

Has anyone managed to squeeze a gas card out of a dealer recently? (it's October now and I'm pretty sure that promo ended ages ago).

I'm waiting for my 2012 GLS Accent Hatchback to arrive (could be up to 12 weeks!!!) and I'd like to get something out of my dealership instead of just paying full sticker price like a schmuck.

Any ideas?

[goofball]

Has anyone managed to squeeze a gas card out of a dealer recently? (it's October now and I'm pretty sure that promo ended ages ago).

I'm waiting for my 2012 GLS Accent Hatchback to arrive (could be up to 12 weeks!!!) and I'd like to get something out of my dealership instead of just paying full sticker price like a schmuck.

Any ideas?

Nope, we got the weathertech-style floor liners, cargo liner, and side steps included though for our Tucson.

[aznprince23]

Has anyone managed to squeeze a gas card out of a dealer recently? (it's October now and I'm pretty sure that promo ended ages ago).

I'm waiting for my 2012 GLS Accent Hatchback to arrive (could be up to 12 weeks!!!) and I'd like to get something out of my dealership instead of just paying full sticker price like a schmuck.

Any ideas?

I got one with the purchase of a 2011 santa fe. I think it ended September and we managed to buy on September 30.

[vwfun]

Has anyone picked up a Veloster? Any feedback?

I know its not part of this promo but thought I'd ask.

[hkz]

Hi, I am looking to finance a 2011 or 2012 sonata limited 2.0T anyone purchased one would like to share some pricing or dealership sales . Pm me thanks.

[pricelesssavings]

Hello, I plan to purchase the 2011/2012 Sonata limited 2.0T with NAV soon (might wait to see what the November promos are first)...

Anyone willing to share what kind of pricing deals they got from their dealerships? I'd be interested in hearing from everyone but especially if you bought from dealerships in Edmonton or Calgary.... Please PM me!!!

I promise to return the favor to the forum if I get a good deal on my purchase... :cheesygri

Thanks in advance!

[tapanpatel88]

Has anyone picked up a Veloster? Any feedback?

I know its not part of this promo but thought I'd ask.

I will be ordering mine within 2 months and I have been following Veloster sales very closely (friend works at a dealership). You can expect an approximate discount of $500-$800 off MSRP depending upon the options you pick.

I also heard that Hyundai has slowed down the production of these cars in order to create a market hype. I am not entirely sure about this but I wouldn't be surprised if they did that.

Also, since this car was JUST released, I hardly doubt if any promos will be seen anytime shortly.

[CarCar1979]

Anyone know where Hyundai accessories can be purchased for cheaper than the dealership? Going to get a 2012 Elantra Touring GLS and the cargo cover costs $265!! Yikes!

Anyone?

[jungle88]

Anyone know where Hyundai accessories can be purchased for cheaper than the dealership? Going to get a 2012 Elantra Touring GLS and the cargo cover costs $265!! Yikes!

Anyone?


I would suggest you check out Brian Tan at Mississauga Hyundai.. bought my 2012 Accent Hatchback GL and got the best price and 50% off accessories, so got the cargo for $67 and great service as well!

[bobmtb]

Has anyone managed to squeeze a gas card out of a dealer recently? (it's October now and I'm pretty sure that promo ended ages ago).

I'm waiting for my 2012 GLS Accent Hatchback to arrive (could be up to 12 weeks!!!) and I'd like to get something out of my dealership instead of just paying full sticker price like a schmuck.

Any ideas?


I signed on September 9th and still no car... so I truly believe that there's a HUGE backlog. I didn't get anything thrown in with the car though, but I was able to talk down the price. Good luck with the wait!

[katonfire]

Just picked up a 2012 genesis coupe for 150 over dealer price, I can't wait till the car to arrive.

[Stroz]

How do you know the dealer price?
did you use Cars Cost Canada?
The reason I ask is I use CCC and went to a Nissan dealer who showed me the "dealer invoice" price and it was about $800 over the dealer "wholesale" price I got from CCC and about $700 under MSRP. Sorry I don't have the actual numbers here and it was a couple of months ago.


Just picked up a 2012 genesis coupe for 150 over dealer price, I can't wait till the car to arrive.

[lbamboo]

Hello there,

I am looking to purchase a Hyundai Elantra GL. Does anyone have CCC pricing or has recently purchased an Elantra and willing to share their price?

Thanks!

[setell]

Anyone know where Hyundai accessories can be purchased for cheaper than the dealership? Going to get a 2012 Elantra Touring GLS and the cargo cover costs $265!! Yikes!

Anyone?

I don’t know how much of a hardball you are but I negotiated a 2012 Elantra Touring GL for 3% above invoice OTR last month that include the cargo cover and all weather floor mats. I could care less how they work it out as I wanted that cargo cover and negotiated to get it. Don’t let the Hyundai website price scare you as the dealers get it at a way way lower price. So when negotiating your car tell the saleguy you want the accessories and negotiate it into the final price. Mind you I went on Sept 28 which was 2 days before month end AND quarter end too. I was there for a very short period of time.

Btw we love the touring it’s amazing.

[Inno]

I don’t know how much of a hardball you are but I negotiated a 2012 Elantra Touring GL for 3% above invoice OTR last month that include the cargo cover and all weather floor mats. I could care less how they work it out as I wanted that cargo cover and negotiated to get it. Don’t let the Hyundai website price scare you as the dealers get it at a way way lower price. So when negotiating your car tell the saleguy you want the accessories and negotiate it into the final price. Mind you I went on Sept 28 which was 2 days before month end AND quarter end too. I was there for a very short period of time.

Btw we love the touring it’s amazing.

I was thinking of the touring. What kind of final price should one expect to pay for the GL? Also, what mileage do you get city and/or highway? There is a litre/100 km guage on the dash, right?

Thanks!

[azsxdc2008]

I was thinking of the touring. What kind of final price should one expect to pay for the GL? Also, what mileage do you get city and/or highway? There is a litre/100 km guage on the dash, right?

Thanks!

I am in the market of the touring as well. Considering dealer got $2700 rebate for 2011 elantra touring .. That might actually be a good option instead of 2012 model. I am heading to different hyundai dealer to find out this weekend. =D

[setell]

I was thinking of the touring. What kind of final price should one expect to pay for the GL? Also, what mileage do you get city and/or highway? There is a litre/100 km guage on the dash, right?

Thanks!

Can't remember exact price but it was invoice + 3% profit + whatever fees/taxes etc. for the old spec (same as 2011 version). I also got the cargo cover + floor mats too.

I don't know about gas milage as I'm used to a gas guzzler so I'm not sure how "great" it is on gas other than we fill up once in a LONG time. I've also never noticed the litre/100 km guage as I don't use it (my current vehicle has it) because too many variables can make it fluctuate.


I am in the market of the touring as well. Considering dealer got $2700 rebate for 2011 elantra touring .. That might actually be a good option instead of 2012 model. I am heading to different hyundai dealer to find out this weekend. =D

Stock for 2011 has been gone or near non-existant in many places so the 2012 may be your only choice.

[Hugh Jass]

Hello there,

I am looking to purchase a Hyundai Elantra GL. Does anyone have CCC pricing or has recently purchased an Elantra and willing to share their price?

Thanks!

Did you ( or anyone else) find a CCC report on this model? I'm just about to buy one and would like to be armed with a ballpark figure going in. Thx

[MrDisco]

Btw we love the touring it’s amazing.

The touring was a top pick in today's Toronto star. It has a more European feel to go against the golf etc.

[espanolguy]

We have New programs coming out on the 1st... Plenty of in house promos going on till Monday night. Pm me if you are in the east end/ Durham.

[Hugh Jass]

We have New programs coming out on the 1st... Plenty of in house promos going on till Monday night. Pm me if you are in the east end/ Durham.

Any word on November deals yet? I'm hoping for 0% on the Elantra.

[himanshu]

Any word on November deals yet? I'm hoping for 0% on the Elantra.

In the same boat. Would jump on this if the first day it's out lol.

Otherwise i want to get the GL Elantra at 2.9% atleast -___-

[espanolguy]

im heading in soon and will pm you all back

[redflag999]

In the same boat. Would jump on this if the first day it's out lol.

Otherwise i want to get the GL Elantra at 2.9% atleast -___-

Can you let me know the price you get with the GL? I am in the market for one too, thanks

[himanshu]

Can you let me know the price you get with the GL? I am in the market for one too, thanks

lowest I've gotten it to is $22900 OTD. I want to finance, but I imagine if you pay cash upfront you can get it for cheaper.

[gekaizer]

I got the Elantra GLS with molded rubber mats for 24.6k. After all that calling! Hahah it's a sweeeeeeeeet car!

[minwersh]

What deals have people been able to score on the GLS Sonata? I am still debating if i should finance or wait a few more months, save up and pay outright for it.

Anyone know what the cash incentives are like?

[nikkers20]

Any new deals on Veloster for November? Looking to buy one soon.

[mikeguy82]

Any new deals on Veloster for November? Looking to buy one soon.

+1 Looking for a Veloster

[colin15]

Not to hijack the thread but is anyone considering the newly designed 2012 Kia Rio5? It's the sister car of the Accent, will cost about the same and is IMHO more appealing!

http://www.shaeraku.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/2012-Kia-Rio5-Hatchback-front-angle-photo.jpg

[shopper-X]

Not to hijack the thread but is anyone considering the newly designed 2012 Kia Rio5? It's the sister car of the Accent, will cost about the same and is IMHO more appealing!

http://www.shaeraku.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/2012-Kia-Rio5-Hatchback-front-angle-photo.jpg

Looks like a better 1st gen Toyota Echo mixed w/VW Golf. Good for Kia.

[himanshu]

I don't see any changes to the promos... were there any changes?

[Hugh Jass]

I don't see any changes to the promos... were there any changes?

I can't see any. I was hoping for a reduction in interest rate for the elantra :(

[mikeguy82]

I can't see any. I was hoping for a reduction in interest rate for the elantra :(

Yeah it seems like they haven't changed a thing, I am hoping they just didn't update website, is that possible?
If anyone works at a dealer, can you confirm change/no change?

Thanks...

[redflag999]

lowest I've gotten it to is $22900 OTD. I want to finance, but I imagine if you pay cash upfront you can get it for cheaper.

The MSRP for a GL automatic is $23600 so you got about $700 off?

[Keithsindiapaleale]

lowest I've gotten it to is $22900 OTD. I want to finance, but I imagine if you pay cash upfront you can get it for cheaper.


The MSRP for a GL automatic is $23600 so you got about $700 off?

I thought I did well at $23,000. Very good price...

[himanshu]

I thought I did well at $23,000. Very good price...

Haven't gotten it yet. Will be signing the contract within the next 2 weeks once I figure 1-2 things. Is it hard to get accepted for financing?

[Inno]

The MSRP for a GL automatic is $23600 so you got about $700 off?

Isn't there a pile of fees on top of the MSRP? His price was OTD = Out The Door (or OTR = On The Road).

[redflag999]

Isn't there a pile of fees on top of the MSRP? His price was OTD = Out The Door (or OTR = On The Road).

The price I quoted is from Hyundai website after I configure the GL (with tax and delivery added already). I guess there is some smaller fee like registration and such but that's minor.

The margin must be pretty thin if the invoice+3% is only about $700 under MSRP, just saying

[espanolguy]

Hey guys, there are too many people for me to reply to in terms of changes in the program... Ill just post it here and hope everyone sees it. There have BEEN NO CHANGES in the program for November. If anyone has any further questions, please let me know. Also in terms of financing and credit applications, we can get that started. PM for info.

[tarnator]

Any dealers worth recommending in BC? Especially the Vancouver area?
We are looking at a Tucson....

[ccyk]

I am shopping for a small suv crossover awd
the Tuscon price this month seems quite unattractive.

I made a spreadsheet for all major import brand. Tuscon ranked #11 based on price.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AoloNpzSmTs-dHRQYVZwS2JzbzVyYjBORFRUNVZ1WlE&output=html

[Faeton]

I am shopping for a small suv crossover awd
the Tuscon price this month seems quite unattractive.

I made a spreadsheet for all major import brand. Tuscon ranked #11 based on price.
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheet/pub?hl=en_US&hl=en_US&key=0AoloNpzSmTs-dHRQYVZwS2JzbzVyYjBORFRUNVZ1WlE&output=html

I took a look at your spreadsheet, and although detailed, it's a bit lacking. You have the Juke rated highly on price alone, but it's an outside example (same with the Venza) simply due to size/class. Plus, the #11 ranking is against a whole bunch of stripper base models which don't have nearly the same standard equipment as the Hyundai. Lastly, you have some rankings seperated by less than $150, which IMO is pretty negligable. Simply ranking of price alone, instead of other considerations (weight given to equipment, MSRP, MPG, financing deals, looks, etc) is a bit shortsighted IMO.

[ccyk]

I took a look at your spreadsheet, and although detailed, it's a bit lacking. You have the Juke rated highly on price alone, but it's an outside example (same with the Venza) simply due to size/class. Plus, the #11 ranking is against a whole bunch of stripper base models which don't have nearly the same standard equipment as the Hyundai. Lastly, you have some rankings seperated by less than $150, which IMO is pretty negligable. Simply ranking of price alone, instead of other considerations (weight given to equipment, MSRP, MPG, financing deals, looks, etc) is a bit shortsighted IMO.

the ranking is just for MY info only, it is by no mean the only method used for purchasing. I treat it as a starting place. eg some ppl say juke is so ugly and wont buy no matter what etc.

if you have time, you can enter more info in it and include price of accessories to get a closer direct comparison in different brand/trim.

but for me the only thing to consider is awd, additional price for backup cam, and leather seats. other features are of no value to me. (eg, gps, BT, moonroof, top rack etc.)

so by all mean create your own ranking.

but there is no doubt this month hyundai is not as cheap as it used to be when there were discounts.

[nikkers20]

Are there any cash incentives on Hyundai Veloster in November?

[Too itchy]

Not to hijack the thread but is anyone considering the newly designed 2012 Kia Rio5? It's the sister car of the Accent, will cost about the same and is IMHO more appealing!

http://www.shaeraku.com/wp-content/uploads/2011/05/2012-Kia-Rio5-Hatchback-front-angle-photo.jpg

I've been looking at this Kia hatch for the past few months....and this would definitely be my next car. at first I was looking at the Hyundai Accent...but with the three backseat headrest looking out the back window is a problem....but with the Kia's two backseat headrest looking out the back window isn't a problem. Also, I believe the Kia Rio5 is priced slightly lower than the accent and has a bit more options...i.e. rearview camera, telescoping steering wheel...in which the Hyundai doesn't have for the top of the line model.
This car looks sharp in all angles externally, inside is pretty nice looking....I would definitely go for the EX Luxury model. Best value for the money. :)

[manicdvln]

lowest I've gotten it to is $22900 OTD. I want to finance, but I imagine if you pay cash upfront you can get it for cheaper.

Thanks for the pricing dude, I went targeted this price to my local dealer, traded in a shitbox 94 camry v6 and lowered it to 22450$ for elentra GL 2012.

[wolverine07]

Ran CC report on car, nothing happening now unlike the OP sale that will move me to buy just yet.

[Hugh Jass]

Thanks for the pricing dude, I went targeted this price to my local dealer, traded in a shitbox 94 camry v6 and lowered it to 22450$ for elentra GL 2012.

94 Camry to 2012 Elantra, nice upgrade dude.

I'm getting my white Elantra next week. Cant wait.
Will post pics.

[tapanpatel88]

Are there any cash incentives on Hyundai Veloster in November?

nope, none

[whodaphucru]

94 Camry to 2012 Elantra, nice upgrade dude.

I'm getting my white Elantra next week. Cant wait.
Will post pics.

Does anyone know how I can get a good deal on a Hyundai Elantra GLS manual?

I made what I thought was a reasonable offer of dealer cost (based on car cost canada) + 2.5% but asked for no admin fee (admin fees are a dishonest way to do business in my opinion unless it is specifically for something like a registration fee or something). They turned it down and didn't make a counter offer, is that really a bad offer? Does anyone know of any motivated Hyundai dealers/ salesman in the GTA? I would go and buy it ASAP if I can get a good deal.

Are there any good days of the week or month to get a better deal?

[SPARTACVS]

Does anyone know how I can get a good deal on a Hyundai Elantra GLS manual?

I made what I thought was a reasonable offer of dealer cost (based on car cost canada) + 2.5% but asked for no admin fee (admin fees are a dishonest way to do business in my opinion unless it is specifically for something like a registration fee or something). They turned it down and didn't make a counter offer, is that really a bad offer? Does anyone know of any motivated Hyundai dealers/ salesman in the GTA? I would go and buy it ASAP if I can get a good deal.

Are there any good days of the week or month to get a better deal?

Go to automotive forum here and search the Hyndai Q&A. the guy is a saleman and seems to have a good reputation.

[johnnyblayze]

Does anyone know how I can get a good deal on a Hyundai Elantra GLS manual?

I made what I thought was a reasonable offer of dealer cost (based on car cost canada) + 2.5% but asked for no admin fee (admin fees are a dishonest way to do business in my opinion unless it is specifically for something like a registration fee or something). They turned it down and didn't make a counter offer, is that really a bad offer? Does anyone know of any motivated Hyundai dealers/ salesman in the GTA? I would go and buy it ASAP if I can get a good deal.

Are there any good days of the week or month to get a better deal?

I had a good experience with Tom Marlow at Attrell Hyundai in Brampton. Got a great deal on a Sonata.

[Hugh Jass]

Does anyone know how I can get a good deal on a Hyundai Elantra GLS manual?

I made what I thought was a reasonable offer of dealer cost (based on car cost canada) + 2.5% but asked for no admin fee (admin fees are a dishonest way to do business in my opinion unless it is specifically for something like a registration fee or something).

Both dealerships I went to wouldn't budge on their admin fee. They kept crying about how little they're making on the car and this was the only way to make a few bucks. I'm guessing this was why they dismissed your offer. Try an all-in ( otr) price.

Good luck getting the GLS. I had to settle for the GL as it would've taken 3 months otherwise.

[ccyk]

Both dealerships I went to wouldn't budge on their admin fee. They kept crying about how little they're making on the car and this was the only way to make a few bucks. I'm guessing this was why they dismissed your offer. Try an all-in ( otr) price.

Good luck getting the GLS. I had to settle for the GL as it would've taken 3 months otherwise.

maybe try ECD? kinna remember they put invoice+2.5% price at their page before.

[Hugh Jass]

maybe try ECD? kinna remember they put invoice+2.5% price at their page before.

At one place I got dealer +2% but wouldn't be moved on the $499 dealer bs with registration fee and all that jazz, but they couldn't get the colour car we wanted. The second place beat the first place's price by $80 and their bs fee was $389, to which they wouldn't be moved either. So I saved $190 from the first one.

[ccyk]

try other dealers maybe. there got to be more than 2 dealers around.
focus on the tax included final price.

I am gonna go through my 10 nearest dealer when I buy next month.

[coriolis]

Hmm, the refreshed GC......



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http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QZBl0vfU1KA/Trw4K7cS61I/AAAAAAAFsa4/W83hftlnKD8/s1600/Hyundai-G_Coupe-4.jpg

http://alt-a.bitg.net/nightmobile/cars/images2/100000/4000/500/104584.jpg

[manicdvln]

Hmm, the refreshed GC......



http://alt-a.bitg.net/nightmobile/cars/images2/100000/4000/500/104580.jpg

http://alt-a.bitg.net/nightmobile/cars/images2/100000/4000/500/104579.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-QZBl0vfU1KA/Trw4K7cS61I/AAAAAAAFsa4/W83hftlnKD8/s1600/Hyundai-G_Coupe-4.jpg

http://alt-a.bitg.net/nightmobile/cars/images2/100000/4000/500/104584.jpg

Exterior looks nice, but interior looks like an elantra.

[iamfob]

When will the refreshed Genesis Coupe be available at the dealership? I like the front end way more than the current one

[beppy]

http://www.autoevolution.com/images/news/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe-spotted-undisguised-interior-revealed-40259_1.jpg
http://www.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/medium/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe-spotted-undisguised-interior-revealed-medium_9.jpg
http://www.autoevolution.com/images/news/gallery/medium/2013-hyundai-genesis-coupe-spotted-undisguised-interior-revealed-medium_21.jpg

[whodaphucru]

Both dealerships I went to wouldn't budge on their admin fee. They kept crying about how little they're making on the car and this was the only way to make a few bucks. I'm guessing this was why they dismissed your offer. Try an all-in ( otr) price.

Good luck getting the GLS. I had to settle for the GL as it would've taken 3 months otherwise.

I ended up just going to the dealer that came up in the car cost canada system and they gave me the MSRP - discount I wanted (~2.4% above cost) and got them to drop the admin fee from $599 to $299. Picked-up the Elantra on Friday and have been pretty happy with it. Admin fees piss me off as it is a very dishonest way to do business as you are giving a discount in one place and just adding it back in elsewhere. Plus the rationale for the fee is usually the security package which they claim is mandatory which is a load of crap. Car dealers should be forced to show the all in price with no added fees (this goes for freight as well). Oh well, at least I only have to do this once every 7-10 years!

[ccyk]

I ended up just going to the dealer that came up in the car cost canada system and they gave me the MSRP - discount I wanted (~2.4% above cost) and got them to drop the admin fee from $599 to $299. Picked-up the Elantra on Friday and have been pretty happy with it. Admin fees piss me off as it is a very dishonest way to do business as you are giving a discount in one place and just adding it back in elsewhere. Plus the rationale for the fee is usually the security package which they claim is mandatory which is a load of crap. Car dealers should be forced to show the all in price with no added fees (this goes for freight as well). Oh well, at least I only have to do this once every 7-10 years!

all 'mandatory' fees (ie freight) should be included in MRSP imo and makers should put a big sign in their website saying there is no extra 'mandatory' fee from dealers.

[himanshu]

I ended up just going to the dealer that came up in the car cost canada system and they gave me the MSRP - discount I wanted (~2.4% above cost) and got them to drop the admin fee from $599 to $299. Picked-up the Elantra on Friday and have been pretty happy with it. Admin fees piss me off as it is a very dishonest way to do business as you are giving a discount in one place and just adding it back in elsewhere. Plus the rationale for the fee is usually the security package which they claim is mandatory which is a load of crap. Car dealers should be forced to show the all in price with no added fees (this goes for freight as well). Oh well, at least I only have to do this once every 7-10 years!

What's the final price you paid?

Agreed with all the hidden stuff... hate it so much.

[azsxdc2008]

so today I went to the dealership, the sales man offered me with the following:



2012 Hyundai Santa Fe Prem 4cyl FWD (Any Color), finance over 60m with $10000 Down $331.xx tax-in! just your license fee!

I think it is a okay price.

anyone else got a better deal please share.


Thanks!

[Hugh Jass]

anyone else got a better deal please share.


Thanks!

PM'd you

[Gray Jay]

Anyone have a car cost report on this?

One of the listed MSRP charges is $395 for Security Program

Total MSRP without sales taxes is $20800

Does anybody buy at suggested MSRP?

sigh, any help or advice will be appreciated.

[ForbiddenX]

Anyone have a sneak preview of the December deals?

I just started car shopping and it's between an Elantra or a Civic. But I'm really leaning towards an Elantra but would like to get the best deal for it as well!

[Ziggy007]

Anyone have a sneak preview of the December deals?

I just started car shopping and it's between an Elantra or a Civic. But I'm really leaning towards an Elantra but would like to get the best deal for it as well!

Just a personal opinion but you should check out the Kia Fore as well if you are in the hunt for something like a Civic.

[Hugh Jass]

Anyone have a sneak preview of the December deals?

I just started car shopping and it's between an Elantra or a Civic. But I'm really leaning towards an Elantra but would like to get the best deal for it as well!

I tested everything in that class and the Elantra was the best. 2012 Civic looks like schitt inside. I didnt even test drive it, took one look at the interior and walked str8 out of the dealership.

[garfield2006]

Nope, we got the weathertech-style floor liners, cargo liner, and side steps included though for our Tucson.


Which model did you get and at what price(includes everything)? I am planning to get a Tucson for myself as well. Thanks.

[raspeed]

The Civic will generally be more reliable, have much better resale value, and slightly better in the vanity dept (if you care if someone sees you driving a Hyundai or a Honda), although neither is a Benz. :)

[raspeed]

I was actually considering a Veloster, but the dealers have no stock and don't expect much soon. So much for getting one on the cheap.

[Albertan]

The Civic will generally be more reliable, have much better resale value, and slightly better in the vanity dept (if you care if someone sees you driving a Hyundai or a Honda), although neither is a Benz. :)

1999 called, it wants its outdated and unsupported general biases back.

[Albertan]

The Civic will generally be more reliable, have much better resale value, and slightly better in the vanity dept (if you care if someone sees you driving a Hyundai or a Honda), although neither is a Benz. :)

Actually the Civic is LESS reliable and is no longer recommended by Consumer Reports, due to Honda coasting on it's goodwill for the past decade and quality going downhill. Do you know what car IS recommended as the top pick by Consumer reports?

Hint - here's a link: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/cr-recommended/top-picks/small-car/index.htm

[Amps]

Actually the Civic is LESS reliable and is no longer recommended by Consumer Reports, due to Honda coasting on it's goodwill for the past decade and quality going downhill. Do you know what car IS recommended as the top pick by Consumer reports?

Hint - here's a link: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/cr-recommended/top-picks/small-car/index.htm

Don't forget that the Civic may cost you up to $2000 more to insure per month than say a Hyundai or Ford. That significantly raises the cost of owning a Honda.

[bungaboy]

The Civic will generally be more reliable, have much better resale value, and slightly better in the vanity dept (if you care if someone sees you driving a Hyundai or a Honda), although neither is a Benz. :)

Well that sounds like a crock to me. You should read the reviews. I did and bought the Sonata.

The Hyundai has a 5 year warranty. And the new designs outclass the civic and corolla.

[Albertan]

Don't forget that the Civic may cost you up to $2000 more to insure per month than say a Hyundai or Ford. That significantly raises the cost of owning a Honda.

You may want to check your figures.... You may mean $200 a year. No way it's $2,000 a month, let alone a year.

[superdsi]

Advertising does work. Everybody believes the Honda is good but it is not.

Consumer Reports and Lemon Aid knew Honda was cutting back on their car quality years ago and pushing the price up.

Mazda 3, Toyoya Corolla Suzuki SX4 are the best small cars now. Just read it in the latest Consumer Reports.

Arrogance and trying to make too make extra money on their cars has cost Honda.

[azsxdc2008]

Got an offer for elantra touring 2012

2012 Hyundai Elantra Touring GL Auto 60m $10000 Down:

$207.73/m or $95.88 biweekly.

2012 Hyundai Elantra Touring GLS Auto 60m $10000 Down:

$254.01/m or $117.24 biweekly

above number are tax-in all in price.

Looks very promising, going to the dealership this weekend to haggle more. =D

Anybody interested in the deal let me know =D

[LDN2012]

Don't forget that the Civic may cost you up to $2000 more to insure per month than say a Hyundai or Ford. That significantly raises the cost of owning a Honda.

You mean per year?...

[Rehan]

Actually the Civic is LESS reliable and is no longer recommended by Consumer Reports, due to Honda coasting on it's goodwill for the past decade and quality going downhill. Do you know what car IS recommended as the top pick by Consumer reports?

Hint - here's a link: http://www.consumerreports.org/cro/cars/new-cars/cr-recommended/top-picks/small-car/index.htm If you had a CR membership, you could see that the Civic has higher predicted reliability than the Elantra (above average vs. average). There are a lot of differences in pricing and features between US and Canada when you're comparing the Elantra and Civic, so don't use US comparisons as a basis for a Canadian decision.

One thing I've noticed with all of the recent Hyundai models is that their fuel economy numbers are waaaay too optimistic. They're pushing "40 mpg" in their specs because it's a magic number for marketing, but real world numbers are well off that. Look at this 2012 Accent review, for example.... http://www.wheels.ca/columns/article/801249


Hyundai claims best in class fuel economy with ratings of 6.7 L/100km city and 4.9 L/100km highway. I didn’t get close to such stellar figures - averaging 8.4 L/100 km in combined driving.:confused: 8.4 L/100km is 28 US mpg...which is also below the EPA rating of 30/40/33 (city/hwy/combined). Rather than using manufacturers' marketing numbers on fuel economy, it's better to go by real world numbers like on http://www.fuelly.com or http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList so you're not disappointed.


Consumer Reports and Lemon Aid knew Honda was cutting back on their car quality years ago and pushing the price up. 2002 Honda Civic LX sedan: $19100
2007 Honda Civic LX sedan: $20630
2012 Honda Civic LX sedan: $17490

2002 Hyundai Elantra GL: $15295
2007 Hyundai Elantra GL: $15595
2012 Hyundai Elantra GL: $18099

Yes, Hyundai has improved the quality of their cars but they've also increased the prices of the Elantra. Yes, Honda has lower quality trim inside the 2012 Civic but there has been a big price drop too. Many people complain about Canadian car prices being higher than their US equivalents, but the 2012 Civic in Canada is actually cheaper than in the US right now, plus it has more features (bluetooth, heated side mirrors, etc.). You have to give kudos to Honda for getting the pricing 'right', at least. Meanwhile, the 2012 Elantra GL auto is CAN$19299+$1495 vs US$17445+$760...and 5 yr warranty vs 10 yr. It's clear why it's doing so well in the US comparisons during their current economic situation.


Mazda 3, Toyoya Corolla Suzuki SX4 are the best small cars now. Just read it in the latest Consumer Reports. Consumer Reports ratings are funny. Somehow, this 'report card' for the Suzuki SX4 gets 73 out of 100:
http://i44.tinypic.com/33ylw09.png

and this one for the 2012 Civic gets 61/100:
http://i43.tinypic.com/7gw1.png


Anyway, each car has its pros and cons. Just because a Civic is a good choice for one person doesn't mean it's a good choice for his neighbor. Same applies to the Elantra.

[robmtl1]

If you had a CR membership, you could see that the Civic has higher predicted reliability than the Elantra (above average vs. average). There are a lot of differences in pricing and features between US and Canada when you're comparing the Elantra and Civic, so don't use US comparisons as a basis for a Canadian decision.

One thing I've noticed with all of the recent Hyundai models is that their fuel economy numbers are waaaay too optimistic. They're pushing "40 mpg" in their specs because it's a magic number for marketing, but real world numbers are well off that. Look at this 2012 Accent review, for example.... http://www.wheels.ca/columns/article/801249


Hyundai claims best in class fuel economy with ratings of 6.7 L/100km city and 4.9 L/100km highway. I didn’t get close to such stellar figures - averaging 8.4 L/100 km in combined driving.:confused: 8.4 L/100km is 28 US mpg...which is also below the EPA rating of 30/40/33 (city/hwy/combined). Rather than using manufacturers' marketing numbers on fuel economy, it's better to go by real world numbers like on http://www.fuelly.com or http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList so you're not disappointed.

2002 Honda Civic LX sedan: $19100
2007 Honda Civic LX sedan: $20630
2012 Honda Civic LX sedan: $17490

2002 Hyundai Elantra GL: $15295
2007 Hyundai Elantra GL: $15595
2012 Hyundai Elantra GL: $18099

Yes, Hyundai has improved the quality of their cars but they've also increased the prices of the Elantra. Yes, Honda has lower quality trim inside the 2012 Civic but there has been a big price drop too. Many people complain about Canadian car prices being higher than their US equivalents, but the 2012 Civic in Canada is actually cheaper than in the US right now, plus it has more features (bluetooth, heated side mirrors, etc.). You have to give kudos to Honda for getting the pricing 'right', at least. Meanwhile, the 2012 Elantra GL auto is CAN$19299+$1495 vs US$17445+$760...and 5 yr warranty vs 10 yr. It's clear why it's doing so well in the US comparisons during their current economic situation.

Consumer Reports ratings are funny. Somehow, this 'report card' for the Suzuki SX4 gets 73 out of 100:
http://i44.tinypic.com/33ylw09.png

and this one for the 2012 Civic gets 61/100:
http://i43.tinypic.com/7gw1.png


Anyway, each car has its pros and cons. Just because a Civic is a good choice for one person doesn't mean it's a good choice for his neighbor. Same applies to the Elantra.


There's nothing funny about those reports. Those criteria are probably weighted.

[Rehan]

There's nothing funny about those reports. Those criteria are probably weighted. The only way that explanation would be valid is if "Accident avoidance" accounted for ~90% of the overall rating. That's the only area where the SX4 beat the Civic, while the Civic beat the SX4 in 5 out of 10 criteria.

[Hugh Jass]

Got an offer for elantra touring 2012

2012 Hyundai Elantra Touring GL Auto 60m $10000 Down:

$207.73/m or $95.88 biweekly.

2012 Hyundai Elantra Touring GLS Auto 60m $10000 Down:

$254.01/m or $117.24 biweekly

above number are tax-in all in price.

Looks very promising, going to the dealership this weekend to haggle more. =D

Anybody interested in the deal let me know =D

So you went from getting a Santa Fe to an Elantra touring? Why?

[azsxdc2008]

So you went from getting a Santa Fe to an Elantra touring? Why?

we have a SUV at home, so we think instead of two SUV, a small car with relatively large cargo room is a better fit in our situation.

[CingKrab]

One thing I've noticed with all of the recent Hyundai models is that their fuel economy numbers are waaaay too optimistic. They're pushing "40 mpg" in their specs because it's a magic number for marketing, but real world numbers are well off that. Look at this 2012 Accent review, for example.... http://www.wheels.ca/columns/article/801249


Hyundai claims best in class fuel economy with ratings of 6.7 L/100km city and 4.9 L/100km highway. I didn’t get close to such stellar figures - averaging 8.4 L/100 km in combined driving.:confused: 8.4 L/100km is 28 US mpg...which is also below the EPA rating of 30/40/33 (city/hwy/combined). Rather than using manufacturers' marketing numbers on fuel economy, it's better to go by real world numbers like on http://www.fuelly.com or http://www.fueleconomy.gov/mpg/MPG.do?action=browseList so you're not disappointed.



To get 8.4 L/100 km with that car, the reviewer's foot must be made of lead. I'd know 'cause I own a 2012 Accent, and I'm averaging ~7.0 L/100 km right now, around 60-40 highway-city. I'm not babying the car either. If you drive like a grandma, you could get to 6.5 fairly easily I'd say.

[ForbiddenX]

Hey guys,

For their current offer for the 2012 Elantra it says its 2.9% financing up to 72 months.

Does that mean it's (Car price + 2.9% + HST) / 72 or is it the car price + 2.9% every year?

[Hugh Jass]

or is it the car price + 2.9% every year?

This.

You're borrowing money from a bank. They're not going to lend you the tax part for free.

[Hugh Jass]

To get 8.4 L/100 km with that car, the reviewer's foot must be made of lead. I'd know 'cause I own a 2012 Accent, and I'm averaging ~7.0 L/100 km right now, around 60-40 highway-city. I'm not babying the car either. If you drive like a grandma, you could get to 6.5 fairly easily I'd say.

I have an Elantra 11 days and the average since I bought it is about 7.9L/100, half city/half hwy. No way does it get 4.9L/100 on the highway, even driving like Grandma. Accent is a different car.

[Hugh Jass]

we have a SUV at home, so we think instead of two SUV, a small car with relatively large cargo room is a better fit in our situation.

Good thinking. SUVs are hogs on the gas, as I'm sure you're well aware.

[CingKrab]

I have an Elantra 11 days and the average since I bought it is about 7.9L/100, half city/half hwy. No way does it get 4.9L/100 on the highway, even driving like Grandma. Accent is a different car.

Rehan specifically mentioned the 2012 Accent and linked to its review, and that's what I quoted. Nothing to do with the Elantra at all.

[whodaphucru]

I have an Elantra 11 days and the average since I bought it is about 7.9L/100, half city/half hwy. No way does it get 4.9L/100 on the highway, even driving like Grandma. Accent is a different car.

I have a 2012 Elantra and would say that their quotes are likley correct under perfect conditions meaning on cruise control at 80-90 kph in 6th gear with one passenger with no AC or defrost, etc. I managed to observe 5.3 L/ 100km for a 50 km stretch or so doing about 95 kph. The problem is that all of us drive a lot harder than the conditions with which they quote these fuel consumption numbers. I have yet to own or hear of a car that actually produces the rated fuel economy under normal driving.

From what I see so far it is about the same as my 2007 Civic that I had before.

[whodaphucru]

You may want to check your figures.... You may mean $200 a year. No way it's $2,000 a month, let alone a year.

My insurance went down a couple hundred when I switched from 2007 civic to 2012 Elantra.

[whodaphucru]

Hey guys,

For their current offer for the 2012 Elantra it says its 2.9% financing up to 72 months.

Does that mean it's (Car price + 2.9% + HST) / 72 or is it the car price + 2.9% every year?


Google loan payment equation. Basically take the all in price including fees and discounts add the tax and you the attached equation (2) to figure out the payments.

http://oakroadsystems.com/math/loan.htm

[redflag999]

Anyone heard of any Dec incentive or discount available?

[whodaphucru]

Anyone heard of any Dec incentive or discount available?

I see just the low interest rates on car cost canada right now, same as what they were.

[radar2000]

Hi everyone.

Would any Ontario GTA Hyundai owners mind PM'ing their OTR price for the following models?

2012 Elentra GL Automatic
2012 Sonata GL Automatic

My parents are looking to pick one of these models up this week and I want to make sure that they are getting the common OTR price.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers!

[chixiao]

I'm looking into buying a SUV, is Santa Se the best choice in the market?
in terms of fuel economy, maintenance and durability, and price?

I'm not a heavy driver tho, probably aiming at 15000km a year
Thank you!

and btw, do they still offer this 30c a liter gas card? i don't see it on the website.

And if I go to the dealer for this new SUV, can I still negotiate for price? or it's fixed for new models?

[Hugh Jass]

I'm looking into buying a SUV, is Santa Se the best choice in the market?
in terms of fuel economy, maintenance and durability, and price?

Hyundai are great back for your buck. Whether it's the best choice....that's up to you.



I'm not a heavy driver tho, probably aiming at 15000km a year
Thank you!

You'd get full value for your warranty then :)



and btw, do they still offer this 30c a liter gas card? i don't see it on the website.

No.




And if I go to the dealer for this new SUV, can I still negotiate for price? or it's fixed for new models?

Definitely negotiate. You sound like you've never done this before. Have any friends that could stand up to a car salesman? Bring them along.

[chixiao]

Hyundai are great back for your buck. Whether it's the best choice....that's up to you.



You'd get full value for your warranty then :)



No.



Definitely negotiate. You sound like you've never done this before. Have any friends that could stand up to a car salesman? Bring them along.

thanks for the answers, I negotiated with used cars a lot, but i'm not sure what's the expectation to negotiate for a new car? which part is flexible?
and i'm comparing Subaru Forester and Hyundai Santa FE,
they are about the same price, subaru offers less warranty, and hyundai looks cooler.
Bus ppl say subaru has better engine quality, does that mean i need to repair hyundai engine within say 5 years?

which one gives me the best performance per buck?
I'm not into power, just a day to day car for work, and occasionally driving to snowboarding

[BigM]

Hi everyone.

Would any Ontario GTA Hyundai owners mind PM'ing their OTR price for the following models?

2012 Elentra GL Automatic
2012 Sonata GL Automatic

My parents are looking to pick one of these models up this week and I want to make sure that they are getting the common OTR price.

Thanks for your help.

Cheers!

I am looking for 2012 Sonata GL Automatic too. I asked couple dealer the on the road cash price is about 26000 after cash back.

I was told the cash back is $2000 or $3000.

Any body know how much cash back?

Any body know any discount before Holiday?

[Albertan]

Hot damn the english is terrible in this thread.

[Rehan]

I am looking for 2012 Sonata GL Automatic too. I asked couple dealer the on the road cash price is about 26000 after cash back.

I was told the cash back is $2000 or $3000.

Any body know how much cash back? $2750 discount for cash purchase of GL Auto or GLS. $2000 for other trims.

[BigM]

$2750 discount for cash purchase of GL Auto or GLS. $2000 for other trims.

I use this to calculate the price I should pay. Is it correct?

Total Invoice price (base price+ destination) +3% + HST - cash back

[Rehan]

I use this to calculate the price I should pay. Is it correct?

Total Invoice price (base price+ destination) +3% + HST - cash back Yes, that's basically correct. There are other minor fees also, like the tire stewardship fee ($30) and the a/c tax ($100).

[BigM]

Yes, that's basically correct. There are other minor fees also, like the tire stewardship fee ($30) and the a/c tax ($100).


if I trade in a old car for example $9000, could I use this to calculate the price? Because I trade in a car, can I get the whole cash back ($2750 )?

Total Invoice price (base price+ destination) +3% + other minor fees - car trade in + HST - cash back

[Rehan]

if I trade in a old car for example $9000, could I use this to calculate the price? Because I trade in a car, can I get the whole cash back ($2750 )?

Total Invoice price (base price+ destination) +3% + other minor fees - car trade in + HST - cash back Yes, that's correct.

[wackojacko]

if I trade in a old car for example $9000, could I use this to calculate the price? Because I trade in a car, can I get the whole cash back ($2750 )?

Total Invoice price (base price+ destination) +3% + other minor fees - car trade in + HST - cash back

U should confirm with dealer, but when I bought a Genesis coupe in June 2010, the cash back came off before HST, meaning you save the tax on the cashback as well.

[Rehan]

U should confirm with dealer, but when I bought a Genesis coupe in June 2010, the cash back came off before HST, meaning you save the tax on the cashback as well. Good point. It's listed as a "discount" rather than a "cash back", so it very well may be before HST is added on. Check with the dealership.

[Prof]

I was hoping to see Hyundai bring back their combo of cashback and 0% for December. Probabably no need with sales are going gangbusters. Ford, by comparison, is offering rebates for the first half of the month and 0% for the second.

[Rehan]

I was hoping to see Hyundai bring back their combo of cashback and 0% for December. Probabably no need with sales are going gangbusters. Sales are pretty good, although I'm sure Hyundai dealers were hoping for a little better (Canadian Honda Civic sales were 2.3x Elantra sales in November)... I think the main issue right now is limited supply. In the US, the CEO said "Accent, Elantra and Veloster remain in short supply. (http://rumors.automobilemag.com/compact-car-mixup-honda-civic-takes-top-spot-chevy-cruze-has-slowest-month-of-2011-92073.html)" .... might be similar situation up here.

[total90]

After purchasing my own 2012 Accent through Brian Tan @ Mississauga Hyundai, I just referred another friend of mine to him for a 2012 Hyundai Tucson GLS and if you are looking for a new Hyundai, just go to him before you make any decision. Happy New Year everyone!

[SPARTACVS]

Sales are pretty good, although I'm sure Hyundai dealers were hoping for a little better (Canadian Honda Civic sales were 2.3x Elantra sales in November)... I think the main issue right now is limited supply. In the US, the CEO said "Accent, Elantra and Veloster remain in short supply. (http://rumors.automobilemag.com/compact-car-mixup-honda-civic-takes-top-spot-chevy-cruze-has-slowest-month-of-2011-92073.html)" .... might be similar situation up here.

Quite possible. I went yesterday to see what promos Hyundai had on the elantra touring and I saw none.

[javis]

Any ideas on what would be a good out the door price on a 2012 Elantra Limited. Looked at one last night and I am interested but not sure what would be a good price. I was going to try and target 2.5% over invoice and get them to waive the crazy dealer fees.

[htc***]

No promotion for 2012 Hyundai Veloster

http://hyundaicanada.com/Content/Veloster/colorsVehicle/695.jpg (http://hyundaicanada.com/Pages/BuildPrice/step2_trims.aspx?model=Veloster)

http://hyundaicanada.com/Pages/BuildPrice/step2_trims.aspx?model=Veloster

[alanbrenton]

Good thinking. SUVs are hogs on the gas, as I'm sure you're well aware.

Is this the same for CUV's because of drag at highway speed and additional weight? With electronic stability control and other safety features, would an average sedan with similar safety features be more stable on a winding road than a CUV? I'm not talking Cayenne or X5's which I'm sure are as fun to drive as their sedan counterparts.

[nayan97]

Hey Has Anyone purchased a 2012 Hyundai Tucson??? Can you guys PM with what you got and also the price????

[Hugh Jass]

Any ideas on what would be a good out the door price on a 2012 Elantra Limited. Looked at one last night and I am interested but not sure what would be a good price. I was going to try and target 2.5% over invoice and get them to waive the crazy dealer fees.

Dunno where you are but I got my Elantra in TO and paid less than 2% over invoice, but they wouldn't budge on the $399 dealer rip off fee. In Oakville it was $499 and they wouldn't budge either, so at $399 I felt like I was doing well :)

[Hugh Jass]

Is this the same for CUV's because of drag at highway speed and additional weight? With electronic stability control and other safety features, would an average sedan with similar safety features be more stable on a winding road than a CUV? I'm not talking Cayenne or X5's which I'm sure are as fun to drive as their sedan counterparts.

I dont know the answer to this Alan, maybe someone else can pipe in. It's all about the centre of gravity, so I would imagine a sedan would be slightly better than a CUV.

[coriolis]

Veloster Turbo has been leaked, official announcement is 3:30pm tomorrow.


http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/481067-2/2013-Hyundai-Veloster-Turbo-above-02.JPG

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/481075-2/2013-Hyundai-Veloster-Turbo-above.JPG

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/481098-2/2013-Hyundai-Veloster-Turbo-Driving-02.JPG

http://www.autoguide.com/gallery/d/481130-2/2013-Hyundai-Veloster-Turbo-front.JPG

http://cache.gawkerassets.com/assets/images/12/2012/01/6d90ac1a79b4cc2dc1a3b44e03e88860.jpg

[Tha_Doggg]

The turbo looks great...can't wait for pricing details.

[javis]

Dunno where you are but I got my Elantra in TO and paid less than 2% over invoice, but they wouldn't budge on the $399 dealer rip off fee. In Oakville it was $499 and they wouldn't budge either, so at $399 I felt like I was doing well :)

Couldn't get 2% but got just under 2.5% with a free tint but still had to pay the $498 dealership fee.

[eshax]

I know this is a little off topic, but I bought a used 2009 Sonata today and the found the financing for Certified Hyundai Pre-Owneds to be amazing.

Last month a 60 month term deal was set at 3.8% fixed but about a week ago Hyundai Canada dropped the rate to 2.78%.

That's unheard of for a pre-owned loan. Less than my line of credit and less than prime!

Just a thought for those out there looking so save on delivery and such.

[dinesh_zee]

Dunno where you are but I got my Elantra in TO and paid less than 2% over invoice, but they wouldn't budge on the $399 dealer rip off fee. In Oakville it was $499 and they wouldn't budge either, so at $399 I felt like I was doing well :)


Couldn't get 2% but got just under 2.5% with a free tint but still had to pay the $498 dealership fee.

Where do you guys get the invoice price for various models? Does it vary by city/province?

[EP32k2]

I know this is a little off topic, but I bought a used 2009 Sonata today and the found the financing for Certified Hyundai Pre-Owneds to be amazing.

Last month a 60 month term deal was set at 3.8% fixed but about a week ago Hyundai Canada dropped the rate to 2.78%.

That's unheard of for a pre-owned loan. Less than my line of credit and less than prime!

Just a thought for those out there looking so save on delivery and such.

BMW does 0.9% on pre-owned a couple times a year, so I'm not sure why you think Hyundai's used rates are so stellar. Still good, but not amazing by any means.

[dpolites]

Wondering whether Hyundai will offer again the deal a family member got last year near end of last model year... 0% for 84 months, gas card and maybe even cash backon Sonata...

Deals now not all that good compared to that..

[anon_s]

Wondering whether Hyundai will offer again the deal a family member got last year near end of last model year... 0% for 84 months, gas card and maybe even cash backon Sonata...

Deals now not all that good compared to that..
Considering now that the Elantra won the NA Car of the Year '12, they might not bring this promo back. Even if they did, it might not apply on the Elantra.

[projectmoonlightcafe]

Hi guys,

I just checked a Santa Fe 2.4 GL Premium for $29,699 + delivery of $1,760 = $31,459. Financing for 84 months makes it $374.51. I am assuming I throw in 13% taxes, which makes it $4XX. Is there anything else I'm missing? It looks awfully cheaper than leasing, which ends up being $519.51...

Please don't flame me, I'm not very fluent in car buying. =) Thanks (i just used the hyundai.ca website, it says interest rate is still 0 for 84 months)

[wheeldeals]

BMW does 0.9% on pre-owned a couple times a year, so I'm not sure why you think Hyundai's used rates are so stellar. Still good, but not amazing by any means.

I believe BMW offers 0.9% only for 24 months and only for select models.

[Nethervue]

Considering now that the Elantra won the NA Car of the Year '12, they might not bring this promo back. Even if they did, it might not apply on the Elantra.

Ya, even last year, it didnt apply to the Elantra

[Damed]

The turbo looks great...can't wait for pricing details.

Agreed. Very sharp looking

[matdwyer]

No promotion for 2012 Hyundai Veloster

http://hyundaicanada.com/Content/Veloster/colorsVehicle/695.jpg (http://hyundaicanada.com/Pages/BuildPrice/step2_trims.aspx?model=Veloster)

http://hyundaicanada.com/Pages/BuildPrice/step2_trims.aspx?model=Veloster

The Velosters still have a two to three month wait to get here - not really a point in subsidizing a model that you can't even deliver.

The turbo looks very similar to the regular that the GF bought - There have been no issues in the road trip we took it on (3500km) or daily driving - spiffy little car that's phenomenal on gas (6.0 on the highway)

[TheLittleMuffin]

I signed up for a 2012 Genesis coupe Premium (Auto) for $35,263.88. This worked out to $284 bi/weekly if I chose to go that way. However, everyone is warning me not to go with it. They are telling me that the dealers will try to scam money from you. As you will end up paying a lot more than what was negotiated, sometimes even up to double the cost of the car. This is my first time buying from a dealer, let alone a new car. Can anyone shed some light on this?

[manicdvln]

If you guys live in Montreal, pm me and I will give you the best auto dealers name and location, I searched everywhere and he gave me the best deal with very little hassle on a brand new Hyundai Elanatra 2012 GL.

[Hugh Jass]

I signed up for a 2012 Genesis coupe Premium (Auto) for $35,263.88. This worked out to $284 bi/weekly if I chose to go that way. However, everyone is warning me not to go with it. They are telling me that the dealers will try to scam money from you. As you will end up paying a lot more than what was negotiated, sometimes even up to double the cost of the car. This is my first time buying from a dealer, let alone a new car. Can anyone shed some light on this?

Not that hard to figure out. Multiply the payment $284 by the number of weeks you'll be paying it off to find the total amount. Five years is $36,920, six years is $44,304......

[Rehan]

If you guys live in Montreal, pm me and I will give you the best auto dealers name and location, I searched everywhere and he gave me the best deal with very little hassle on a brand new Hyundai Elanatra 2012 GL. Then just post the details here, as others have done (e.g., several have recommended Brian Tan in Mississauga). You're not allowed to be fishing for referrals here so you can make extra cash from the kickbacks.

[pysik]

has anyone purchased the sonata 2.0t recently? thoughts on the car and if they wouldn't mind pm'ing me on how much they paid. Also does anyone have any recommendations for a good dealer I see people have recommended Brian Tan, but anyone else. thanks

[daviiiiiid]

Then just post the details here, as others have done (e.g., several have recommended Brian Tan in Mississauga). You're not allowed to be fishing for referrals here so you can make extra cash from the kickbacks.

+1, Im in Montreal and in the market for an Elantra, if we could all benefit from it, would be great.

[temporary user]

+1, I'm in Montreal and in the market for an Elantra, if we could all benefit from it, would be great.
+2 I am looking into buying a Veloster and I want to avoid hustling as much as possible.

[fromage]

I signed up for a 2012 Genesis coupe Premium (Auto) for $35,263.88. This worked out to $284 bi/weekly if I chose to go that way. However, everyone is warning me not to go with it. They are telling me that the dealers will try to scam money from you. As you will end up paying a lot more than what was negotiated, sometimes even up to double the cost of the car. This is my first time buying from a dealer, let alone a new car. Can anyone shed some light on this?

next years model gets 45 more hp and a proper dual clutch gearbox. should probably want to wait for that.

[82]

anyone has more information about the upcoming Elantra Touring? Like when will it be available in Canada and the dimension of it? thanks

[alpha-que]

next years model gets 45 more hp and a proper dual clutch gearbox. should probably want to wait for that.

I wonder how soon before we see it available OTR and if they will raise the price. Im guessing the price will go up by quite a bit more to "match" competitor in that segment..

damn... to buy a 2012 or wait for 2013... tough choice...

personally dont like the styling of the 2013 models but with the power boost and more accessories and possible increase in prices.... :confused: