Terra Nova - on FOX - From: Steven Spielberg | Involving Dinosaurs and Time Portals

[xpoint9]

The show begins in the year 2149, a time when all life on planet Earth is threatened with extinction. In an effort to save the human race, scientists develop a portal allowing travel 85 million years back in time to prehistoric Earth. The Shannon family (father Jim, his wife Elisabeth, and their three children Josh, Maddy and Zoe) join the tenth pilgrimage of settlers to Terra Nova, the first human colony on the other side of the temporal doorway. However, they are unaware that the colony is in the middle of a group of carnivorous dinosaurs.[4]


Looking forward to this.


The series was expected to premiere in May with a two-hour sneak preview, but due to the amount of time being spent on visual effects, its pilot will premiere in Fall 2011.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RoI6NDblT84

[hyperion]

Trailer has piqued my interest. I'm in.

[Talamasca]

Hey, it's the dude from Avatar playing the same role!

[Gebraroest]

Looks awesome

[originalnutta]

Hey, it's the dude from Avatar playing the same role!

I hate that dude. I hope he gets turned eaten by a T-rex.

[Angela V]

Hey, it's the dude from Avatar playing the same role!

Who? I didn't see anyone from Avatar. Though it's been a while since I saw it.

[Tornado F2]

Could be interesting, but it's hardly original. Besides, has Spielbery forgotten that changing the past also changes the present. If humans get established millions of years too early, how will that affect everything else?

Still, if they can add a "Raquel Welch in a bikini"-type character, I'm in! :razz:

http://www.boomertoyou.com/wp-options/upload/2010/12/MV5BMjAzMDUzODY3OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzg5MTUyMQ@@._ V1._SX352_SY500_.jpg

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Unfortunately it'll probably just be a way to test footage for a possible Jurassic Park IV.

[hyperion]

Who? I didn't see anyone from Avatar. Though it's been a while since I saw it.

The military colonel dude with white hair, that gives that badass speech at the beginning and gets killed in the mech at the end.

[djstiles]

Sweet! Looking forward to this!

[Super strokey]

Could be interesting, but it's hardly original. Besides, has Spielbery forgotten that changing the past also changes the present. If humans get established millions of years too early, how will that affect everything else?
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It just explains them finding hammers and stuff in million year old rocks lol.

[Johan Liebert]

Wasn't the dinosaur wiped out by meteor, how are the human race going to survive that? I wonder how they are going to survive that unless they brought in some nice projectiles to solve this problem.

[Talamasca]

Wasn't the dinosaur wiped out by meteor, how are the human race going to survive that? I wonder how they are going to survive that unless they brought in some nice projectiles to solve this problem.

They travel back 85 million years in time. The meteor impact was 65 million years ago. I'm sure they'll come up with a solution as they have 20 MILLION YEARS to think about it. :twisted:

[hyperion]

They travel back 85 million years in time. The meteor impact was 65 million years ago. I'm sure they'll come up with a solution as they have 20 MILLION YEARS to think about it. :twisted:

Travel further back. Live with trilobites and stuff.

[Troy_McClure]

finale will explain that the portal was just a gas chamber and they really died. The whole experience was purgatory, ending with a fade to white shot.

[xpoint9]

finale will explain that the portal was just a gas chamber and they really died. The whole experience was purgatory, ending with a fade to white shot.

you Lost me at purgatory

[Troy_McClure]

you Lost me at purgatory

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[CSAgent]

It's Fox, series will end by season 2.

[lor74]

Looks to much like Jurassic Park. What kind of story lines can they possbily have to keep it interesting...the dinosaur thing will get old real fast.

[xpoint9]

starts on September 26, 2011

[vchan81]

Can't wait for this show.

[AeonLux]

Previews looked amazing, hopefully it's not a disappointment.. but like another member said, it's fox.

[jcon]

Looks to much like Jurassic Park. What kind of story lines can they possbily have to keep it interesting...the dinosaur thing will get old real fast.

So there are dinosaurs in the show like Jurassic Park, otherwise what exactly is the similarity?

You can't think of a few story lines of settlers in a rough, new environment? Assuming this in not set-up as a bottle-episodes, there is a lot that can be established and built upon, including challenges we may not be considering.

[MasZakrY]

Anyone watch the first episode? I found myself yelling at the TV more then usual with this show... With so many blatant disregards for logic its amazing they could even pull together such a contrived story line.

-The family has a doctor and a police officer as heads of the family but they lived in a squalor (yet the commander states that they could have lived in a house within a dome)
-In the future prisons have the worst security. With weapons like a laser pen, why allow any contact with prisoners!
-Terra Nova has the worst security of all time when entering the portal (one way portal yet they seemingly just wander in and once through they just sit around with no secondary checks)
-Terra Nova portal is not in a white room; people are not checked/x-rayed for disease, animals, insects, banned substances, bombs, etc...
-You have to walk very long distances seemingly all the time in the future (no segway's, moving carpets, etc..)
-The camp is treated like a hippy town with everyone meandering about, choosing to do their jobs if they cared to
-Nobody is equipped with a phone or tracking device, the commander had to walk around until he found the doctor
-Of all the people brought over for Terra Nova the man in charge spends 90% of his time with the one family
-The man in charge is the head of security, there is no president or government system whatsoever
-Everyone seemed clueless and unprepared as what to expect when they got there
-No orientation before they arrived, only ONCE they had already landed were they politely asked to attend orientation
-The main character doctor did not have to attend orientation
-The kids were sneaking out through the gates with huge spaces between them and security saw them on camera and had been sneaking out for a long time
-The reevers, oh sorry, "sixers" are allowed to survive while daily causing mayhem to the village and are a constant threat to everyone's lives
-The weapons (rifles, pistols) can not kill dinosaurs but serve for what seems like noise makers to scare off them off
-The laser pen he got in the beginning could cut any dinosaur in pieces and could fit into your pocket
-The sound cannons are not auto targeting and seemed barely adequate to deter a single dinosaur
-The son character is blatantly ripped off of the son character in War of the Worlds and is as unlikable in this iteration as he was in that movie
-When the kids return home after the crazy ordeal, NOBODY is upset or disappointed with any of them
-In the future all the cars are right hand drive

-THE FENCES ARE SO F***ING LOW IT IS A JOKE!!! WHY ARE THEY MADE OUT OF TWIGS...with little pointy dowels sticking out of the tops!!


This show is such a joke, I had high hopes but nothing at all makes sense in this sci-fi abomination :!:

[Beradon]

Three words sum it up: Cliche family cheese

Hope it gets canned by the 6th episode.

[bradrm]

I'm just surprised they didn't cram in a football quarterback cliche in there.

At $4 million an episode, I had hoped they spend more then a few hundred on script writers.

[MasZakrY]

Oh yes I forgot some other major issues

-Why are the dinosaurs allowed so close to the fence!
-Why is the emotionally attached doctor allowed to go on the search party if she was such a valuable person to the village
-Why are the families not put through rigorous training and drink that milk substance before hand
-Why are we to feel sympathy for a police man who broke the law by having three kids...does he think he is above the law?
-All the stupid kids who went toe to toe with dinosaurs will survive
-When they check the car for the injured sixer, why is their first thought that the black sixer woman must have taken him and not a dinosaur?
-What is even the point of Terra Nova, they seemingly do nothing except wander around, maintaining the status quo

[DiceMan]

Funny, I've never really liked Spielberg's sci-fi efforts. Somehow they just don't work for me. I prefer it when he stays more or less grounded in reality.

[Psubs]

Could be interesting, but it's hardly original. Besides, has Spielbery forgotten that changing the past also changes the present. If humans get established millions of years too early, how will that affect everything else?

Still, if they can add a "Raquel Welch in a bikini"-type character, I'm in! :razz:

http://www.boomertoyou.com/wp-options/upload/2010/12/MV5BMjAzMDUzODY3OF5BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMzg5MTUyMQ@@._ V1._SX352_SY500_.jpg

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Unfortunately it'll probably just be a way to test footage for a possible Jurassic Park IV.

They used the probe and couldn't find it in the future so they deemed it a different reality stream.

They revealed too much too soon with the son of the leader and the markings. Should've dealt with it slower at a LOST pace.


-When they check the car for the injured sixer, why is their first thought that the black sixer woman must have taken him and not a dinosaur?

There are so many flaws, but I ignored them and enjoyed the episode.

Why do they REALLY need the ore? Isn't everything run on solar cells? Shouldn't the tech be really advanced 150 years into the future?

[Star*]

so disappointed..........

[Super strokey]

Sounds like it was pretty terrible... bummer.

I guess i will watch tonight and see if i like it.

[MasZakrY]

They used the probe and couldn't find it in the future so they deemed it a different reality stream.
How are they able to communicate with a different dimension?


They revealed too much too soon with the son of the leader and the markings. Should've dealt with it slower at a LOST pace. I called this out as soon as he mentioned "I had a son".


Why do they REALLY need the ore? Isn't everything run on solar cells? Shouldn't the tech be really advanced 150 years into the future?
If the ore is so important, why not mine it themselves instead of having to deal with the sixers? Easy solution is to have a ground to ground missle sent across the vortex and bomb the sixers, killing them all.

[Beradon]

Funny, I've never really liked Spielberg's sci-fi efforts. Somehow they just don't work for me. I prefer it when he stays more or less grounded in reality.I think Spielberg is losing it. He was also involved with the last Transformers movie(awful train wreck). Seems like he's trying to cash in on any project whether it's good or bad.

[Psubs]

If the ore is so important, why not mine it themselves instead of having to deal with the sixers? Easy solution is to have a ground to ground missle sent across the vortex and bomb the sixers, killing them all.

The Sixes probably stole all of the mining equipment and set up shop at the mine.

Leader stated that he doesn't want to let the future know that he knows about this problem until he knows who he can trust.

Stupid girl should've died. I guess leader probably adopted the white girl after parents died.

Also wondered, the rip in time must be on American soil or did the American's kill off the rest of civilization? :evil:

[rageking]

Spielberg is the executive producer for one episode in this series. I guess he ditched this project as fast as he could.

[astrotrain]

They should have ditched the crappy family motif, who wants to see cheesy ma and pa routines with ******** kids. I wanted the entire family to be eaten by a T-Rex when they first landed after the portal, too bad. What made Lost pretty good was majority of the cast were single and loners in their own way with no baggage tying them down. It is going to degenerate into a cheese fest of sappy family melodrama, oh boy, the daughter is going to lose her virginity, the dorky brother masturbates for the first time with a pimple on his wing wang, sigh. Just tear down the fence and let the dinos eat them already, this one not gonna make it past season 1.

[Ojam]

Why do they REALLY need the ore? Isn't everything run on solar cells? Shouldn't the tech be really advanced 150 years into the future?

How do you use solar cells for building materials?

[Blueroom]

-The laser pen he got in the beginning could cut any dinosaur in pieces and could fit into your pocket

And it's probably rechargeable, a larger gun sized one could probably cut a T-Rex in half, unlike bullets. Where are they getting bullets anyway? Does a big floating head come by and spew them out e.g. Zardoz?

Of course the laser cutter will never be seen again.

Could they not actually hear all that gunfire when they were searching for the kids?
Do they not notice a car missing?
Since the thing they sent to see if it was a working portal to Earths past never showed up why did they assume the portal was another Earth (or anything for that matter?)
Why not send scads of folks through the portal?

PS stop shooting TV shows in the dark, can't see squat.

[djemzine]

Anyone watch the first episode? I found myself yelling at the TV more then usual with this show... With so many blatant disregards for logic its amazing they could even pull together such a contrived story line.

-The family has a doctor and a police officer as heads of the family but they lived in a squalor (yet the commander states that they could have lived in a house within a dome)
-In the future prisons have the worst security. With weapons like a laser pen, why allow any contact with prisoners!
-Terra Nova has the worst security of all time when entering the portal (one way portal yet they seemingly just wander in and once through they just sit around with no secondary checks)
-Terra Nova portal is not in a white room; people are not checked/x-rayed for disease, animals, insects, banned substances, bombs, etc...
-You have to walk very long distances seemingly all the time in the future (no segway's, moving carpets, etc..)
-The camp is treated like a hippy town with everyone meandering about, choosing to do their jobs if they cared to
-Nobody is equipped with a phone or tracking device, the commander had to walk around until he found the doctor
-Of all the people brought over for Terra Nova the man in charge spends 90% of his time with the one family
-The man in charge is the head of security, there is no president or government system whatsoever
-Everyone seemed clueless and unprepared as what to expect when they got there
-No orientation before they arrived, only ONCE they had already landed were they politely asked to attend orientation
-The main character doctor did not have to attend orientation
-The kids were sneaking out through the gates with huge spaces between them and security saw them on camera and had been sneaking out for a long time
-The reevers, oh sorry, "sixers" are allowed to survive while daily causing mayhem to the village and are a constant threat to everyone's lives
-The weapons (rifles, pistols) can not kill dinosaurs but serve for what seems like noise makers to scare off them off
-The laser pen he got in the beginning could cut any dinosaur in pieces and could fit into your pocket
-The sound cannons are not auto targeting and seemed barely adequate to deter a single dinosaur
-The son character is blatantly ripped off of the son character in War of the Worlds and is as unlikable in this iteration as he was in that movie
-When the kids return home after the crazy ordeal, NOBODY is upset or disappointed with any of them
-In the future all the cars are right hand drive

-THE FENCES ARE SO F***ING LOW IT IS A JOKE!!! WHY ARE THEY MADE OUT OF TWIGS...with little pointy dowels sticking out of the tops!!


This show is such a joke, I had high hopes but nothing at all makes sense in this sci-fi abomination :!:

+1

[Ojam]

Where are they getting bullets anyway? Does a big floating head come by and spew them out e.g. Zardoz?
squat.

Ummm the oar?

[Odd I/O]

It appears that I liked this show more than most. Of course I had low expectations going in after suffering through Falling Skies, another Spielberg produced television series this summer. I thought it would be some hokey family driven drama set in the pre-historic era which would've been such a waste of money. And it certainly had those elements but it also had some decent mysteries like who are the Sixers? What do they want and what's their agenda? What happened to Taylor's son and what is he trying to calculate? Who really are the bad guys? Taylor or the Sixers? If they keep the family drama to a minimum (or execute it really well) and focus on the mysteries they've raised and keep the mysteries and intrigue coming this could be a decent show.



Anyone watch the first episode? I found myself yelling at the TV more then usual with this show... With so many blatant disregards for logic its amazing they could even pull together such a contrived story line.

-The family has a doctor and a police officer as heads of the family but they lived in a squalor (yet the commander states that they could have lived in a house within a dome)

The doctor, with her credentials would have been able to live a better life if she only selfishly looked after herself and her family but instead she chose to altruistically help the poor and the needy either for free or for much lower wages than what she could have been earning.



-In the future prisons have the worst security. With weapons like a laser pen, why allow any contact with prisoners!

The prison guard was bribed by the wife so I don't think he cared if they touched or not.



-Terra Nova has the worst security of all time when entering the portal (one way portal yet they seemingly just wander in and once through they just sit around with no secondary checks)
-Terra Nova portal is not in a white room; people are not checked/x-rayed for disease, animals, insects, banned substances, bombs, etc...

Agreed.



-You have to walk very long distances seemingly all the time in the future (no segway's, moving carpets, etc..)

This is a dystopian future where over-population and mis-management of natural resources had pretty much screwed up the world. In our own time we have shortages in helium as well as phosphorus (used in the production of fertilizer used to grow food) as well as achieving peak oil. So, it's not so far fetched that in 100 years we may have depleted our supply of vital natural resources to the point that we can't produce some of those fancy technologies you mentioned.



-The camp is treated like a hippy town with everyone meandering about, choosing to do their jobs if they cared to
-Nobody is equipped with a phone or tracking device, the commander had to walk around until he found the doctor

Without launching satellites into space they won't have GPS tracking or cell phones. Landlines maybe but who wants to have a cord attached to you? Maybe a radio transmitter?



-The reevers, oh sorry, "sixers" are allowed to survive while daily causing mayhem to the village and are a constant threat to everyone's lives

I don't think allowed to survive is the right interpretation of the situation. Taylor has purposely not informed the people back on Earth prime about the situation because he doesn't know who he can trust so he can't exactly ask them to send over a battalion of heavily armed troops. It isn't revealed exactly what he's doing to handle the situation other than looking weak.



-The weapons (rifles, pistols) can not kill dinosaurs but serve for what seems like noise makers to scare off them off

Yeah, the weapons are complete $h1t.



-The laser pen he got in the beginning could cut any dinosaur in pieces and could fit into your pocket

I don't know about that. All we saw it do was cut a cup in half.



-In the future all the cars are right hand drive

I don't think you can assume that as we've only seen the cars used by Taylor and his people. Considering almost everybody speaks like an American we can assume this is not an international expedition but a American lead one. And American cars have the steering wheel on the right.




Oh yes I forgot some other major issues

-Why are the dinosaurs allowed so close to the fence!
-Why is the emotionally attached doctor allowed to go on the search party if she was such a valuable person to the village
-Why are the families not put through rigorous training and drink that milk substance before hand
-Why are we to feel sympathy for a police man who broke the law by having three kids...does he think he is above the law?
-All the stupid kids who went toe to toe with dinosaurs will survive
-When they check the car for the injured sixer, why is their first thought that the black sixer woman must have taken him and not a dinosaur?
-What is even the point of Terra Nova, they seemingly do nothing except wander around, maintaining the status quo


On the way over to rescue them someone mentioned that they heard Sixer radio chatter or some such thing which is why they assumed it was Mira (leader of the Sixers).

On the surface Terra Nova is to ensure the survival of the human race by starting over on a pristine world. However, Mira mentions near the end of the episode that it was about controlling the past to control the future. This doesn't make sense to me as Terra Nova is in another timestream.

[Odd I/O]

How are they able to communicate with a different dimension?

I called this out as soon as he mentioned "I had a son".


If the ore is so important, why not mine it themselves instead of having to deal with the sixers? Easy solution is to have a ground to ground missle sent across the vortex and bomb the sixers, killing them all.

They mentioned that the Sixers control the mining area.

[bembol]

Never heard of this new series until it came up in the watching threads.

I downloaded the free episode of iTunes (US), not bored but not excited to finish it either. I still have over 30 minutes to go but will save it for tomorrow.

I don't think I will be following up, I just don't care what happens or fell for the characters. I guess it's poor casting, IMO it's over rated with Steven Spielberg's name behind it.


Fall's new series are so disappointing, compared to this past Summer with Suits, Awkward and Switched at Birth.

Terra Nova
Up All Night
PAN AM
Prime Suspect
Free Agents
New Girl
Charlie's Angels

I only managed to finish Prime Suspect, I guess I was bored but it was mediocre. Except for Terra Nova, I turned it off after 10 minutes. *All free on iTunes.

[SCEvan]

The son character is blatantly ripped off of the son character in War of the Worlds and is as unlikable in this iteration as he was in that movie


You hit the nail on the head with that one, I knew the character seemed very familiar, and I already want him to die on the show after 90 minutes. :)

[canguy9999]

I personally thought the show was decent.

Its not a show that I simply can't wait for the next episode, which means with its cost ya it may not last the season.

But I'm going to keep watching for now and see how it goes.

I do agree the show would have been better if they had a more diverse group of new comers who you follow, and not just the family. But this show is on fox people, its a family show.

[kitty]

I bet 70% of the episodes will involve rescuing someone (probably the son) who has wandered outside of the wall. Somewhere in the remaining 30% will probably deal with some prehistoric virus that makes everyone sick.

Or worse yet, they'll just combine the two ideas to have a virus that makes everyone sick and the only cure is to wander outside the wall; and the guy who does so will need to be rescued.

Hollywood is so formulaic.

Now, if Benjamin Linus (from Lost) shows up and says: "We're the good guys." Then I'll be interested.

[joeyjoejoe]

I personally thought the show was decent.

Its not a show that I simply can't wait for the next episode, which means with its cost ya it may not last the season.

But I'm going to keep watching for now and see how it goes.

I do agree the show would have been better if they had a more diverse group of new comers who you follow, and not just the family. But this show is on fox people, its a family show.

FOX a family channel?

But I agree with the rest... It's still entertaining and for that reason, I'll keep watching. For me it's like Hawaii Five-O... bad acting, nonsensical plots, but entertaining. Also it's nice to see some washed up Asian actors make guest spots... like Jason Scott Lee and the actor that played Shang Tsung in Mortal Combat.

[Tornado F2]

I don't think you can assume that as we've only seen the cars used by Taylor and his people. Considering almost everybody speaks like an American we can assume this is not an international expedition but a American lead one. And American cars have the steering wheel on the right.


You're obviously an immigrant, probably from Asia, if you really think that. Of the lead cast, only a few seem to be Americans. Others are British, Sri Lankan, Australian, etc. Which seems an odd mix for a future where people likely can't travel long distances easily.

The idiot teenage boy, btw, is Canadian. :lol:

As for the right-hand-drive cars, that's a clear giveaway that the show is filmed in Australia, rather than the expected Hawaii.

I think I'll have to try and switch my brain off and just try to enjoy the show while it lasts. Hopefully Spielberg won't throw in his typical aliens from Close Encounters. That will be a clear jump-the-shark moment. He ruined the ending of Kubrik's otherwise-good A.I. with them.

[Tornado F2]

Now, if Benjamin Linus (from Lost) shows up and says: "We're the good guys." Then I'll be interested.

He already has his own, likely less-expensive-to-produce show, Person of Interest. It's more likely to reach a 2nd season.

BTW, I noticed the mascara-eyed guy from Lost while channel-surfing the other night. I didn't stay tuned in long enough to note what it was though.

[MasZakrY]

The doctor, with her credentials would have been able to live a better life if she only selfishly looked after herself and her family but instead she chose to altruistically help the poor and the needy either for free or for much lower wages than what she could have been earning.
Even today, doctors working in "second class" hospitals still make a very decent wage and add on top, a police officer's salary and you have enough income to not live in a terrible dirty apartment.


The prison guard was bribed by the wife so I don't think he cared if they touched or not.
Kind of begs the question, how did she get all the way into the depths of the prison and then given the 5 minute ultimatum and then is allowed to leave without question. If in the future weapons are miniaturized, l highly doubt they would be allowing anyone to waltz in unchecked (for the guards own safety at least)




This is a dystopian future where over-population and mis-management of natural resources had pretty much screwed up the world. In our own time we have shortages in helium as well as phosphorus (used in the production of fertilizer used to grow food) as well as achieving peak oil. So, it's not so far fetched that in 100 years we may have depleted our supply of vital natural resources to the point that we can't produce some of those fancy technologies you mentioned.
In the future they have cars, ergo they can produce segways, escalators and moving carpets.



Without launching satellites into space they won't have GPS tracking or cell phones. Landlines maybe but who wants to have a cord attached to you? Maybe a radio transmitter?
They already showed security has radio's so that point is moot. A "GPS" can be created by installing three large beacons in an equilateral triangle around the complex. A drone plane would circle above capturing images and plotting the drone's position in relation to these three beacons could determine where they were taken. From these images, loaded onto a PDA device with the same position tracking tech, you could determine your location in relation to those images.



I don't think allowed to survive is the right interpretation of the situation. Taylor has purposely not informed the people back on Earth prime about the situation because he doesn't know who he can trust so he can't exactly ask them to send over a battalion of heavily armed troops. It isn't revealed exactly what he's doing to handle the situation other than looking weak. Bringing over a hand full of highly decorated special military personnel to take out the sixers makes a whole lot more sense then playing house and hoping he can be a big boy by himself. Heck, they could even send over a small drone spy plane to fly over the area to find the sixers and then anything is game (gas, bomb, note down location of base, etc..)




I don't know about that. All we saw it do was cut a cup in half.

A larger version could certainly cut through flesh, bone, muscle. Heck, we even saw the doctor had a laser scalpel held to her throat so it obviously can cut skin.



I don't think you can assume that as we've only seen the cars used by Taylor and his people. Considering almost everybody speaks like an American we can assume this is not an international expedition but a American lead one. And American cars have the steering wheel on the right.
American cars have the steering wheel on the left, unless they suddenly changed all American cars. Pro tip, the show is shot in Australia...




who are the Sixers? What do they want and what's their agenda? What happened to Taylor's son and what is he trying to calculate?...On the surface Terra Nova is to ensure the survival of the human race by starting over on a pristine world. However, Mira mentions near the end of the episode that it was about controlling the past to control the future. This doesn't make sense to me as Terra Nova is in another timestream.
The sixers are a faction of the original group who wanted to return home and the son is the leader, using those diagrams as a means to show that he is working on a way to get back to their own dimension (to a earlier time, to alter and warn those in the future). The son essentially wants to be able to either create his own portal or modify the existing portal to point to a different time/dimension.

At the end of the day, the plot will be surrounding:
-Sixers wreaking havok on the base either internal espionage or outside forces trying to break in (guaranteed a main character personnel is a sixer sympathizer)
-Dinosaurs wreaking havock, getting inside the grounds
-Major drama with the daughter dating a older guy
-drama surrounding another woman taking the interest of the doctor's husband
-drama with the son and those group of teenagers in their own house (guaranteed the son will want to/will move in with those teenagers and will move back in with the family with heartfelt sorrow)
-drama at school with the young daughter
-drama with the doctor at the "hospital" with staff
-drama with sixers needing supplies and doing more trades with the main camp

[MasZakrY]

BTW, I noticed the mascara-eyed guy from Lost while channel-surfing the other night. I didn't stay tuned in long enough to note what it was though.

The show is "Ringer" http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1819654/ and he plays the detective

FYI, this is a lame drama/soap opera show.

[canguy9999]

Even today, doctors working in "second class" hospitals still make a very decent wage and add on top, a police officer's salary and you have enough income to not live in a terrible dirty apartment.

We don't know enough about the future timeline to make any of these determinations. In todays society if a doctor works in a hospital in a less desirable place in north America, they still make money off of insurance, middle class ect. In the future, maybe you can only make money as a doctor when serving the wealthy, so she makes the decision to help out the less fortunate. Plus some doctors here do go work oversees for much less money.



Kind of begs the question, how did she get all the way into the depths of the prison and then given the 5 minute ultimatum and then is allowed to leave without question. If in the future weapons are miniaturized, l highly doubt they would be allowing anyone to waltz in unchecked (for the guards own safety at least)

Again we don't know enough about the future. Maybe they only have so many places they can actually live, instead of having prisons in more rural areas they have to put them in tighter cramped spaces in the cities. Also their society seems to be a lot more corrupt, maybe the wife paid other people off too, we really don't know.




In the future they have cars, ergo they can produce segways, escalators and moving carpets.

Really? This is unrealistic because they don't have segways, escalators and moving walkways? These things cost money, they cost money to maintain. I'm sure in one of the dome living spaces they mention they could very well have these things. Plus, really with how little exercise they probably get in a society where they need air masks to go out they might need to walk a little.



They already showed security has radio's so that point is moot. A "GPS" can be created by installing three large beacons in an equilateral triangle around the complex. A drone plane would circle above capturing images and plotting the drone's position in relation to these three beacons could determine where they were taken. From these images, loaded onto a PDA device with the same position tracking tech, you could determine your location in relation to those images.

This is going too far. So they have to create this drone and develop these devises. Yes they already have the applicable knowledge and technology, but very well probably haven't used or done anything like that in years. The cost of doing so in the future timeline might also be an issue.


Bringing over a hand full of highly decorated special military personnel to take out the sixers makes a whole lot more sense then playing house and hoping he can be a big boy by himself. Heck, they could even send over a small drone spy plane to fly over the area to find the sixers and then anything is game (gas, bomb, note down location of base, etc..)

This is really the decision of one man, it may be his decision because of his son, or because of a relationship with others in that group. He wants to figure things out before he goes rushing in. There are also repercussions for doing things like that, its like the concept of nuke now, ask questions later. Plus the special military personnel may not want to take the one way trip.




A larger version could certainly cut through flesh, bone, muscle. Heck, we even saw the doctor had a laser scalpel held to her throat so it obviously can cut skin.

Maybe they can only power a smaller laser, or maybe they can only make one so powerful.



At the end of the day, the plot will be surrounding:
-Sixers wreaking havoc on the base either internal espionage or outside forces trying to break in (guaranteed a main character personnel is a sixer sympathizer)
-Dinosaurs wreaking havoc, getting inside the grounds
-Major drama with the daughter dating a older guy
-drama surrounding another woman taking the interest of the doctor's husband
-drama with the son and those group of teenagers in their own house (guaranteed the son will want to/will move in with those teenagers and will move back in with the family with heartfelt sorrow)
-drama at school with the young daughter
-drama with the doctor at the "hospital" with staff
-drama with sixers needing supplies and doing more trades with the main camp

A lot of these are probably right, but again I see this as a "family show" so its to be expected.

All in all I think people are looking far too much into this series. Plot holes to me are explainable enough.

[porphyra]

Brannon Braga's name jumped at me during the opening credits and I had already written the show off. Glad to see that the man who destroyed the trek franchise and killed Kirk lives up to his name.

[TodayHello]

Good to hear the show turned out to be exactly what the previews alluded to ..... crap

[xpoint9]

just watched the show. The CGI is really terrible. I've seen better CGI in youtube videos. it's supposed to be a $150 millon show.

anyways, the interesting storyline was the captain's sons'. They need to tone down the family stuff, reminds me of falling skies. They also need to get rid of that A-hole son

[hyperion]

The show is not nearly as bad as this this thread make it look. It's not great, but I think it's a decent start. I'll see if it draws me in after 4-5 episodes, and make a decision then.

The dialogue has been pretty cheesy and I hope it improves.

Did the conversation between the sixers at the end essentially confirm that this isn't an alternate reality that they travelled in? That would have huge ramifications.

[time space]

Typical TV crap - but imagine if it was done right on a channel like HBO.

[carmaster]

The characters are boring. The CGI is crap. This show is not going to last. Too much hype and over rated. Your better off watching Jurassic Park which is 10X better.

[Psubs]

The characters are boring. The CGI is crap. This show is not going to last. Too much hype and over rated. Your better off watching Jurassic Park which is 10X better.

Really, they should've had that girl that bee-lined it out of the vehicle not survive. That alone would've made things darker and not fluffy.

[MrDisco]

Anyone watch the first episode?

i just got around to seeing it. I can't see this lasting beyond the season. The novelty of dinos will wear off by the 3rd ep at which point they'll just be an annoying distraction from the main plot of the dude's son, the etchings, and the sixers.

[MrDisco]

Now, if Benjamin Linus (from Lost) shows up and says: "We're the good guys." Then I'll be interested.

too late. he's stuck on his own formulaic show.

[Arctan]

Saw the premier of Terra Nova last week, the full two hours. Was really hoping for something special, like a Lost/Jurassic Park combo.

I'd give it a 4/10. I'm trying to forget why I even gave it such a high score. What came to mind right after the premier, was that for a show that's trying to portay time travel, the story is incredibly linear. :facepalm:

Some thoughts:
-Far too predictable, and paced too fast. Too much info and skipping plot points to get the story moving.

-None of the characters are even slightly likeable or interesting, especially the idiotic rebel son who has no respect for the dad. Really hoped a T-Rex would chomp down on his ***** , along with that rebel girl and his new friends. The know-it-all sister is also very irritating mainly because of her dialogue, as is her hunky potential love interest who just shows up. She would be much more attractive if she could shut up for a moment. Parents, also not likeable. The kid sister is such a cutie patootie and is the only character that should survive a dinosaur attack.

-That's another thing: too many relationships are being established way too early in a series. No character development at all. Parents/idiot son and old and new girlfriends/daughter and security guy etc.

-Cheesy dialogue and script. The ending where they see the moon...cringeworthy. And the girl wouldn't shutup about why its big compared to future earth.

-Too much 'in the nick of time' moments for an opening series (e.g. dad getting into portal after a ridiculous jail escape, driving into gates escaping dinosaurs, saving idiot son from raptors 'slashers,' saving the commander from assassination by sixer, etc etc, I'm sure there were more)

-I heard it was the most expensive episode of a series ever made...graphics were ok I guess. Jurassic Park, 1993, had much much better looking dinosaurs.

The first time I saw Lost, I was turned off by the monster story, as I was really hoping it would be a purely real survival story. The more I watched Lost the more I liked it, because the story telling was excellent and unique. The ending was crap though, so it was a waste of a series, it just got tangled in its own storyline.

From what I see on TerraNova so far, the storytelling is very poor, and I don't see it getting any better. The plot can branch off into aliens and whatnot, but again it would be nice to keep things simple and make it a survival story: people vs dinosaurs.

This show needs to improve bigtime in the next episode.

[hamant]

where can I stream from so i can join in on the hate!!!

[Arctan]

where can I stream from so i can join in on the hate!!!

http://www.zzstream.com/2011/09/terra-nova-season-1-episode-1-genesis.html

[hamant]

http://www.zzstream.com/2011/09/terra-nova-season-1-episode-1-genesis.html

thanks man!!!

[Arctan]

It's showing on ABC right now. If you missed it maybe you can catch the timeshift in 3 hours.

[DougO]

Actually, I prefer the Terra Nova from Heavy Gear to this one. :)

Seriously. Another family oriented show? Who is this aimed at again? The same market as "Falling Skies"? Just waiting for the religious kooks to turn up to complete the hokey plot. And I guess only the Americans know how to open up a rift gate? So, in the future, everone else in the world is still dumb and no one has a good scientific cadre that can build anything? Time to send the Yamato out after the Cosmo DNA, eh?

You will not see the kids in any real danger...no kids will be eaten by the dinos. However, adults are fair game. The dinos can't be killed. That would upset kids (according to the IMDB Q&A section). What criteria was established for membership in any of the colonies? Don't know that one (yet). People still live above ground and don't live underground to escape the toxic air? Hmm...you'd think that would be easier. I guess somehow we got rid of all the water in the future. Makes a good pic but no explanation as to how this is even possible, what with two thirds of the planet covered by the stuff.

Watching this show is why I went back to reading novels. So few disappointments that way.

Not going to be a priority show. May end up sitting on the PVR until I get around to watching it. Still waiting to see if they do S.M. Stirling's "Emberverse" novels as a series. Apparently they have been optioned. If they get the "Game of Thrones" treatment, that would be something to see.

Just so tired of the junk that passes itself off as entertainment (especially for television) these days...

[whampoa]

...Seriously. Another family oriented show? Who is this aimed at again? The same market as "Falling Skies"? Just waiting for the religious kooks to turn up to complete the hokey plot. And I guess only the Americans know how to open up a rift gate?...

I blame the movie Contact for how to open up the rift gate.

Mind you, that movie is a 1000x better than this dino crap.

And also, not only the American but the Japanese also have the same identical machine, albeit with the hand of an American tycoon.

[MrDisco]

I blame the movie Contact for how to open up the rift gate.


the book was a bit different (as you can imagine).

i blame Stargate more than Contact for this plot device.

[dealguy2]

I love the usual liberal plot elements in this one. Humans destroy their planet so let's go start a hippie commune. Anyone who breaks away from utopia is an evil "sixer".

[MasZakrY]

I think this one lines completely wraps up this show: "Dad, how do I know if a boy likes me?"

I was laughing when they return from delivering the pheromones all covered with bleeding cuts going over their harrowing tale... While conveniently NOT showing what would have been the most action packed part of the episode!

The SUV gets a flat tire...seriously 150 years from now apparently we still get flat tires in our extreme military grade vehicles.

Why are they being taught survival skills when they are to never leave the compound and when exactly are they going to school??

The fence is useless against all flying dinosaurs and they never mention insects EVER, which would be a huge problem.

The youngest daughter is smiling when she is supposed to be 'terrified'. Young actor or not, actors need to be coached as to exactly how they should be responding in a situation, especially when what you are reacting to is CG.

Last comment... they are in a extreme rush to synthesize the pheromones and yet the mother has time to come home and leisurely see her family again then stroll back to work. Why are there only two scientists to do all of this work (in Terra Nova) on what is supposed to be the biggest scientific find ever (going back in time millions of years).

EDIT: ok one more... Its the year 2149 but the armor the guards are supplied with is a motocross chest protector? What was the budget for this show again? Why do these guards not even wear helmets when they are going on a dangerous expedition at night, when its raining with dinosaurs all around, seriously, wtf?

[xpoint9]

I think this one lines completely wraps up this show: "Dad, how do I know if a boy likes me?"

I was laughing when they return from delivering the pheromones all covered with bleeding cuts going over their harrowing tale... While conveniently NOT showing what would have been the most action packed part of the episode!

The SUV gets a flat tire...seriously 150 years from now apparently we still get flat tires in our extreme military grade vehicles.

Why are they being taught survival skills when they are to never leave the compound and when exactly are they going to school??

The fence is useless against all flying dinosaurs and they never mention insects EVER, which would be a huge problem.

The youngest daughter is smiling when she is supposed to be 'terrified'. Young actor or not, actors need to be coached as to exactly how they should be responding in a situation, especially when what you are reacting to is CG.

Last comment... they are in a extreme rush to synthesize the pheromones and yet the mother has time to come home and leisurely see her family again then stroll back to work. Why are there only two scientists to do all of this work (in Terra Nova) on what is supposed to be the biggest scientific find ever (going back in time millions of years).

EDIT: ok one more... Its the year 2149 but the armor the guards are supplied with is a motocross chest protector? What was the budget for this show again? Why do these guards not even wear helmets when they are going on a dangerous expedition at night, when its raining with dinosaurs all around, seriously, wtf?

You know, normally with these type of shows you're suppose to suspend your disbelief, turn off your brain. But this show has huge flaws that they're distracting. Some of the stuff you pointed out should be common sense in any timeline. Another thing that's really stupid is their technological advancements. On one hand they have time travel, holographic displays and then they have vehicles that are worse than the Hummers that are bring used right now. We already have tires that don't need to be pressured with air. Hell you can even buy Run-On-Flat tires for your car for less than $150 that lets you to run your car on flat tire for up to 50mi. Also have they not improved windshield glass in the future? Some make the argument that these things are too little and don't contribute to the story, but for me; if I'm watching a big-budgeted show about the future I except to see small details that are up to date with the show's timeline.

Also the CGI was crap again. I gotta look up who does the CGI for these guys, probably Stargate.

I'll stick with Game of Thrones for a big-budget show.

[time space]

Humans destroy their planet so let's go start a hippie commune.

The show is idiotic, but I don't think anyone who's actually seen it would describe the colony as a "hippy commune".

[MasZakrY]

The bottom line is this is supposed to be a show about humans living on 85 million years ago, alternate dimension, earth fighting dinosaurs and rogue colonists not 7th Heaven in Africa. There is enough drama, love triangles and awkwardly acted teenage angst to feel right at home playing on ABC Family. I'm done with the show but I can guarantee there will be an episode where the daughter asks about sex, the changes her body is going through, a boy coming across which forms another love triangle, etc...

[enforcerviper]

I had high hopes, but couldn't stand it. Deleted from sick beard.

[gatorb6]

I still have the first 3 episodes saved on the PVR. Been trying to avoid reading too much on this thread but the outlook doesn't look good.
I've only watched the first 30 min or so of the first episode and I can see where this is going.

[oranr]

I tried to like this show but after 3 episodes and this wonderful thread on all the "issues" of the show...i have given up on the show.

[Migger]

I watched the first episode last night on Rogers On Demand, and if there's one thing I'm grateful for, it's that I'll have more time to devote to other things because I won't be bothered with this show.

What was fun was playing the "You know it's the future when..." game while watching this.

You know it's the future when:
- it's always night time in the cities, and while there are blinking lights on everything, it's still so dimly illuminated
- they can make a USB key-sized laser, but all their regular weapons are unnecessarily large and bulky.
- soldiers wear body armor that doesn't really cover much
- there's always some sort of big brother organization that is out to stop you from procreating too much/being too happy/being too sad/etc.
- all vehicles operate with a whining "electric-powered" sound
- portals or gates to other worlds are located in rooms with very little security and incompetent guards

[Psubs]

The bottom line is this is supposed to be a show about humans living on 85 million years ago, alternate dimension, earth fighting dinosaurs and rogue colonists not 7th Heaven in Africa. There is enough drama, love triangles and awkwardly acted teenage angst to feel right at home playing on ABC Family. I'm done with the show but I can guarantee there will be an episode where the daughter asks about sex, the changes her body is going through, a boy coming across which forms another love triangle, etc...

The issues are like No Ordinary Family which got canceled. :confused: I guess they'll find the mole next episode and interrogate 'em.

[djstiles]

I am in the same boat as everyone else, the show has been nothing but a disappointment. I PVR'd the first 2 weeks and after watching last nights episode there is no way I can let this show take up any space on my PVR going forward.

[rageking]

no blood/gore, and no nudity = fewer watchers. Do a spartacus-like thing with this show and they will have a winner.

[carmaster]

The show was so boring yesterday. I had to turn it off after 30 minutes. It's pathetic.

[MrDisco]

wow ep3 was just horrid. this type of lame sci-fi television might have worked in the 80s but not today.

the real shame is the lead actor was pretty good in life on mars (a far better show than this ever will be)

[Tornado F2]

i just got around to seeing it. I can't see this lasting beyond the season. The novelty of dinos will wear off by the 3rd ep at which point they'll just be an annoying distraction from the main plot of the dude's son, the etchings, and the sixers.

It's on Fox. If it's good it will be cancelled without any conclusion. If it's crap it will last for years. I'll likely tune in largely because I've noticed nothing else worth tuning in for at the same time.

[Tornado F2]

wow ep3 was just horrid. this type of lame sci-fi television might have worked in the 80s but not today.

the real shame is the lead actor was pretty good in life on mars (a far better show than this ever will be)

Speaking of old shows, is V coming back?

[Arctan]

"Dad, how do you know when a boy likes you?" :facepalm::facepalm::facepalm:

I PVRd the episode from this past Monday (Oct 3rd), and just watched it today. That was not much of an improvement from the 2 hour premiere. I fast-forwarded many parts. If nobody gets eaten in the next episode, this show will be cancelled. The only thing going for the show right now is that the preview of the next episode showed a T-Rex having some guy for a snack. Finally! :D In fact the very short clip in the preview looked very similar to the scene from Jurassic Park, where the T-Rex eats the guy hiding in the toilet/outhouse.

There seems to be absolutely no sense of urgency in this place. Odd, considering these people are on a tiny plot of land surrounded by freaking dinosaurs. Not to mention their village camp has no protection from above, and their protective fence looks like a few logs stacked on top of each other. That somehow keeps out angry dinosaurs. Right. Also, the graphics still look pretty bad.

The character and relationship development is still terrible. The story is still predictable. Here's what's gonna happen: the son's new girlfriend will buy him the guitar, they'll fall in love, and she'll turn out to be a 6'er, bring him to the dark side, and he'll become the leader of the 6'ers, and eventually fight his family. (assuming the show survives that long).

How do the producers not brainstorm some simple things? Like what stuff from the future would look like? The scientists use 3D touchable holographic molecular synthesizers, but the vehicles still use metal coil springs which ofcourse can still get flat tires. :facepalm: It's just simple details like this that make or break productions. Lost nailed this in their first season (except the bit where the aircraft engines continue to rev on the beach, just like in Castaway where the aircraft engines also keep revving in the middle of the ocean) It's good for dramatic effect, so ok, fine.

Terra Nova is making idiotic mistakes. I'll give it only one more chance, and that too only because the preview showed a T-Rex.

[DougO]

Oh well...they moved up the first episode of the 2nd season of The Walking Dead from October 31st to October 16th, so we'll have something to watch at least...

I dunno why Spielberg is green lighting so many family oriented shows. Falling Skies, Terra Nova, Tin Tin (movie...I know) etc. Not looking at his own age group at all anymore. Maybe he's going through his mid life crisis. He has not produced anything nor directed anything really good in a long time. Pity that...

[Tornado F2]

Oh well...they moved up the first episode of the 2nd season of The Walking Dead from October 31st to October 16th, so we'll have something to watch at least...

I dunno why Spielberg is green lighting so many family oriented shows. Falling Skies, Terra Nova, Tin Tin (movie...I know) etc. Not looking at his own age group at all anymore. Maybe he's going through his mid life crisis. He has not produced anything nor directed anything really good in a long time. Pity that...

Time to remake Jaws perhaps? ;)

[MasZakrY]

The character and relationship development is still terrible. The story is still predictable. Here's what's gonna happen: the son's new girlfriend will buy him the guitar, they'll fall in love, and she'll turn out to be a 6'er, bring him to the dark side, and he'll become the leader of the 6'ers, and eventually fight his family. (assuming the show survives that long).

Right on the money but I do believe it will come to him having to make a last second choice between leaving with her (and her friends) or his family and he will choose his family (remember its a family show). This should happen in a very late episode in this season.

The son of the main leader, who is the leader of the sixers will try to take over the exit portal and repoint it to go back into the original dimension in a earleir then 2150 time point to save his mother or something. Those calculations he scribbled are for time travel... This part should be the climaxing end of the season episode.

[board123]

I watched the first two episodes and immediately dropped this show. The script and acting is just awful. That "the moon is insane" line at the end of episode 2 was the straw that broke the camel's back.

What a terrible show. I can't believe people watch this garbage.

[mastercool]

Agree with all the mentioned points and I thought I'd just add in this:

http://io9.com/5851122/the-most-expensive-show-on-television-uses-nerf-guns-as-props

So the "future" weaponry is just nerf guns spray painted..that's funny and really sad.

I tried to get into this show but honestly there's nothing to look forward to. Sucks that there really is no new shows to look forward to this season.

[Blueroom]

It's badly written, and the McGuffin (the reason the Sixers are what they are) hasn't been addressed even though their have been plenty of opportunities to do so (including when the guy asked the leader of the Sixers and she basically shrugged it off).
The whole show has enormous plot holes. It won't make it past the already filmed episodes (13 I think).

How they haven't had some primitive plague / insect / plant wipe them out I'll never know. Never mind the dinosaurs.

[avaross09]

It seems like a mash up of all sci fi concepts that you can think of and put together. Its making all more confusion and it sometimes doesn’t make any kind of sense. Stephan Lang in the movie makes it look like a déjà vu, as if he is playing Col. Miles from Avatar in Terra Nova.

[FunRing]

Despite some flaws revolving the science/theories, I am enjoying this show more than I've anticipated!
In my opinion, they've done a good job filming it, so it's great entertainment!

[Ziggy007]

As has been mentioned earlier, this is a show that prepetuates it's own mysteries by have characters that acting so abnormally it defies logic.

When Jim was with Mira she could have laid everything bare but instead acted in a weird mysterious creepy way and sent him packing bad to camp instead of trying to win him over. Boooooooring.

[CSAgent]

Agree with all the mentioned points and I thought I'd just add in this:

http://io9.com/5851122/the-most-expensive-show-on-television-uses-nerf-guns-as-props

So the "future" weaponry is just nerf guns spray painted..that's funny and really sad.

I tried to get into this show but honestly there's nothing to look forward to. Sucks that there really is no new shows to look forward to this season.

LoL That is really sad!

Show to be cancelled by episode 10 my prediction.

[DougO]

...except for one thing...all 13 episodes of the first season are apparently completed. Have seen interviews with some of the cast and crew and they are very unconvincing as to the merits of the show. Ah well...

[Psubs]

Someone gets murdered in camp on Halloween! FINALLY! :|

[time space]

Someone gets murdered in camp on Halloween! FINALLY! :|

Let's hope it's the distributor.

;)

[the_fm]

...except for one thing...all 13 episodes of the first season are apparently completed.

doesn't mean it can't be cancelled. look at charlie's angels. got cancelled even though 8 episodes (if i remember correctly) were already done

[xpoint9]

so today I turned it off about halfway through. Too much sucking.
I'm definitely done with it. I know some of you guys gave up early, saved yourself couple of hours.

[DougO]

My Gawd! Tonight's episode was terrible. And the dinosaur hatching scene was pretty bad. Time for the SPFX peeps to check the Discovery channel to show what a lizard hatching out of an egg really looks like. Money? Adultry? I thought this was the new start? Same old same old. I guess old habits (and writing ideas) die hard. Or else the writers can't come up with any real crimes for the colony. So cliched...

And shouldn't the colony be over run with little kids? No more population control, unlimited food, great air, no pollution. The rugrats should be all over the place. Not in this show though...Seems the writers are skirting around the S-E-X issue. Also no mixed families...like gay or lesbian families. But it has to have Spielberg's seal of approval (and the Fox network's as well) so I guess we won't see that either. Some future world, no?

Ai Yi Yi!

Just found this very interesting link:

http://www.afterelton.com/TV/2011/01/brannon-braga-star-trek-gay-characters

[Tornado F2]

My Gawd! Tonight's episode was terrible. And the dinosaur hatching scene was pretty bad. Time for the SPFX peeps to check the Discovery channel to show what a lizard hatching out of an egg really looks like. Money? Adultry? I thought this was the new start? Same old same old. I guess old habits (and writing ideas) die hard. Or else the writers can't come up with any real crimes for the colony. So cliched...

And shouldn't the colony be over run with little kids? No more population control, unlimited food, great air, no pollution. The rugrats should be all over the place. Not in this show though...Seems the writers are skirting around the S-E-X issue. Also no mixed families...like gay or lesbian families. But it has to have Spielberg's seal of approval (and the Fox network's as well) so I guess we won't see that either. Some future world, no?


Well they're supposed to be starting a new society, aren't they? With limited resources available the obvious thing to do is send back healthy young heteros, in peak child-bearing years. That way they can "go forth and multiply". There's little point sending back 10,000 gays who will all be dead and childless within 50 years.

As for that dino egg, why save a baby dino? Maybe it was never intended to survive. Now it will live among humans, learn language, lead the other dinos to conquer the entire planet, and change history for ever. Mankind will be deliberately exterminated at the early primate stage. Congrats doc! :D

[Psubs]

As for that dino egg, why save a baby dino? Maybe it was never intended to survive. Now it will live among humans, learn language, lead the other dinos to conquer the entire planet, and change history for ever. Mankind will be deliberately exterminated at the early primate stage. Congrats doc! :D

Opposable thumbs!!! Someone would have to bang the dino and one would have to give birth to a viable new combo species (like V).

[Tornado F2]

Opposable thumbs!!! Someone would have to bang the dino and one would have to give birth to a viable new combo species (like V).

Go "bang" a crocodile and see if that's even feasible. :razz: The Greeks haven't succeeded in producing any more centaur offspring over the last 2 millennia, so something tells me your idea's not going to work. :lol:

[Arctan]

I think it's safe to say that Terra Nova has become so idiotic that it's not even worth discussing how crappy it is anymore.

Remember the first few seasons of Lost? Every episode was thrilling and left you wondering what will happen next. Viewers even set up a huge 'Lost Encyclopedia' website to try to solve the various mysteries (which were never answered as the show started tangling itself into a mess, and took the cheap/easy way out i.e. let the viewer come to their own conclusions).

Lost was excellent story-telling. TerraNova has nothing going for it. Apart from the acting and plot, even the graphics suck. Who green-lights this crap?

[Psubs]

Go "bang" a crocodile and see if that's even feasible. :razz: The Greeks haven't succeeded in producing any more centaur offspring over the last 2 millennia, so something tells me your idea's not going to work. :lol:

Your idea's not going to work either. Maybe if they took in some for of primates and they hung around the humans, they could go all Planet of the Apes-like.

[nagasadow]

Wtf is with the crappy cgi?

[flexwong]

I was excited for this show because I thought "oh wow, dinosaurs. This is gonna be cool." First couple of episodes: "ok, not too bad, but nothing amazing. It'll get better." Then I just gave up. Too many cheesey lines and not enough dinosaurs in my opinion.

[Psubs]

I was excited for this show because I thought "oh wow, dinosaurs. This is gonna be cool." First couple of episodes: "ok, not too bad, but nothing amazing. It'll get better." Then I just gave up. Too many cheesey lines and not enough dinosaurs in my opinion.

Ya, need moooooooaaaarrrr roooooooaaaarrr!!! >:(

I suppose the son, negotiating with the 6ers to contact the future should be okay. No wait, he should just move on and get with the brunette that wants him. :facepalm:

http://www.celebs101.com/gallery/Allison_Miller/332948/Allison_Miller_Picture.jpg

[hyperion]

^ That actor is the only good thing about the show imo.

[Psubs]

^ That actor is the only good thing about the show imo.

At least there are more big dinos tonight. :| Hopefully, they will crush the fence.

[DougO]

Hmmm....an emergency access tunnel that only a little kid can fit through? Must be a bugger to fix any broken wires in there... Isn't that the Jeffries Tube from Star Trek?

An emergency door switch on the wrong side of the door? How cliched is that?

The box...do you REALLY want me to explain this to you...transparent plotline (speculations on Imdb from weeks ago)...

A tape worm removal operation was one of the highlights of the show? Who writes this stuff? Oh yeah, the people that killed Enterprise...

One poster on Imdb says that is the most action we get for the remaining episodes as he has read snippets of the scripts from the upcoming episodes. I hope he's wrong (but will probably be right)...

Please don't hurt the dinos...little kids would be upset...

Akkk!

[Tornado F2]

Your idea's not going to work either. Maybe if they took in some for of primates and they hung around the humans, they could go all Planet of the Apes-like.

Note the ":D". It was only a joke.


Please don't hurt the dinos...little kids would be upset...


They should parachute in Baby Sinclair to save the show:

http://t1.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:ANd9GcRkOYEKj8MEs1jglo9M-h0BXWG7hokQTmuOtK2h-LWY70Ht_9F97AW19rHl

Gotta love him! :D

http://images4.wikia.nocookie.net/__cb20060413173125/muppet/images/thumb/0/06/BabySinclair.JPG/300px-BabySinclair.JPG

[DougO]

I got a laugh out of this thread on Imdb today:

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1641349/board/nest/191103416

To think the writers get $200K per episode to write this badly...:lol:

[Psubs]

It's actually decent now. The son went back to the future and coming back with an army to destroy the whole colony. Battle time!!!

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Am I the only one who is still watching this because of Skye Alexandria "Bucket" Tate?

The things I would do to her...

edit: her:

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1079/18411220.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6773/amgun.jpg
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http://img707.imageshack.us/img707/3251/am03.jpg
http://img69.imageshack.us/img69/2765/am04m.jpg

[carmaster]

Watched the first two episodes and found the show so damn boring. The characters are pathetic, the CGI is crap, and the writing is horrific.

[rageking]

The series isnt renewed yet. They will make a decision mid January. Ratings are ok though so probably season 2 in september.

[Tornado F2]

Am I the only one who is still watching this because of Skye Alexandria "Bucket" Tate?

The things I would do to her...

edit: her:

http://img440.imageshack.us/img440/1079/18411220.jpg
http://img266.imageshack.us/img266/6773/amgun.jpg


Apparently the actress is 26 - 8 years older than the kid. :lol:

They need to send in Summer Glau as a terminator to wipe out the boring family (except the father) and work towards some great climactic battle between her and Skye. :)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l129/sskable/summer-glau-terminator.png

[Haz]

Apparently the actress is 26 - 8 years older than the kid. :lol:

They need to send in Summer Glau as a terminator to wipe out the boring family (except the father) and work towards some great climactic battle between her and Skye. :)

http://i95.photobucket.com/albums/l129/sskable/summer-glau-terminator.png

Doesn't every show Summer Glau star in die a horrible death?

[the_fm]

Doesn't every show Summer Glau star in die a horrible death?

while true, the blame is more on fox than summer. slotting tv shows on a friday night is a death wish (except the cape. that one was just bad!)

[wineluvr]

I'm guessing it gets cancelled, ratings are about a 9.5, not good for a costly series, series never really took off, another network may picknitbup

[Tornado F2]

Doesn't every show Summer Glau star in die a horrible death?

Possibly so, but I, and many others, keep buying the DVD/BR boxsets when they come out, so there's still good money to be made.

(Except the Cape - agreed, that stank). :razz:

http://l.yimg.com/l/im_siggjKhcF6FWIfJ9Qk4uP1Yz7Q---y626/tv/us/img/site/37/39/0000073739_20110107135312.jpg

Sorry Vinnie! :lol:

[zod]

I'm guessing it gets cancelled, ratings are about a 9.5, not good for a costly series, series never really took off, another network may picknitbup

isn't 9.5 epicly good in todays tv climate? I don't even think lost pulled those kind of numbers? (except maybe at the beginning?)

[Ojam]

isn't 9.5 epicly good in todays tv climate? I don't even think lost pulled those kind of numbers? (except maybe at the beginning?)

It ended with 7.2 million viewers, which is twice of what Fringe ended with last year. On a per episode bases costs can't be that different, sets are already built, both have CG elements. The only difference would be location based. Probably still lower than what Fox wanted though.

For comparison sake Person of Interest's last episode had 13 million viewers

[DougO]

Costs are very different. Listed as the most expensive series ever made. 13 episodes cost over $44 Million! If Stevie manages to get a 2nd season out of this, then they have to do something about the budget. They also need a longer season and a lot less teenage angst. As far as it being sci-fi, it isn't...it's "family drama" says Brannon Braga. Peeps looking forward to the 2nd season of Falling Skies for more "Family Drama". The only "Family Drama" I want to see is the 2nd season of "Game of Thrones". Those are some families... :lol:

[Ojam]

Costs are very different. Listed as the most expensive series ever made. 13 episodes cost over $44 Million! If Stevie manages to get a 2nd season out of this, then they have to do something about the budget. They also need a longer season and a lot less teenage angst. As far as it being sci-fi, it isn't...it's "family drama" says Brannon Braga. Peeps looking forward to the 2nd season of Falling Skies for more "Family Drama". The only "Family Drama" I want to see is the 2nd season of "Game of Thrones". Those are some families... :lol:

But what was it per episode? How much of that 44 million was spent on the show before it even started shooting? How much of it was for advertising the show? How much of it were costs associated with set design and the Vehicles, which they only need to spend once. I can see there being high upfront costs associated with the show, but there really isn't a lot of CG in it, so I can't see it being all that more to shoot.

Wikipedia says 4 mill per episode, compared to 3 mill for an average drama.

PS: Game of Thrones is 10 times the show both Falling Skys and Terra Nova are added together and squared.

[DougO]

Go to Imdb and look, especially at the early posts. Some of the crew people had logged on to give you the poop on costs. I know their vehicle budget was miniscule which is why you have no aircraft, only land based vehicles. Costs for the scripts...something like $200K per episode. Many were really badly written (IMO). Remnants of Star Trek series abound since Braga used the same writers. Location filming cost a lot. They (apparently) couldn't use Canada as a backdrop this time but had to go somewhere expensive to shoot. "Falling Skies" is filmed in Hamilton, so it's cheap to make which is why it got an immediate renewal. No word on TN yet.

I really miss a space based series. Don't seem to be any in the immediate future either...

[Tornado F2]

Go to Imdb and look, especially at the early posts. Some of the crew people had logged on to give you the poop on costs. I know their vehicle budget was miniscule which is why you have no aircraft, only land based vehicles. Costs for the scripts...something like $200K per episode. Many were really badly written (IMO). Remnants of Star Trek series abound since Braga used the same writers. Location filming cost a lot. They (apparently) couldn't use Canada as a backdrop this time but had to go somewhere expensive to shoot. "Falling Skies" is filmed in Hamilton, so it's cheap to make which is why it got an immediate renewal. No word on TN yet.

I really miss a space based series. Don't seem to be any in the immediate future either...

Given the high up-front costs, especially for preparation of the location, it's surprising that they made the first season so short. I assume their bean-counters were in a rush to get DVD/BR boxsets out to rake in extra money. I'm not a fan of half-season boxsets though, so I'll likely pass on this one.

As for location, the LOST set would probably have been available. But apparently Spielberg didn't want to shoot in Hawaii for whatever reason.

[Mr. Robo]

Looks like this show is officially cancelled.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/23237/fox-cancels-terra-nova

[AzN_RiverdaleCI]

Looks like this show is officially cancelled.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/23237/fox-cancels-terra-nova

Thank God.

[SCEvan]

Hope the cancellation lets Fringe stay around awhile longer. :!:

[oranr]

Finally!

[Tornado F2]

Looks like this show is officially cancelled.

http://www.darkhorizons.com/news/23237/fox-cancels-terra-nova

Yeah, read that earlier. Apparently Fox are offering the show to other networks, but the other networks already have their own crap. Not a biggie for me anyway, as I mostly seem to tune in to CBS and ABC (and even CBC - where are you CTV Toronto? Can't get you here in Niagara) shows since the switchover to HD OTA. Fox Buffalo used to come in clear and strong back in analog days, but I can't catch their digital signal at all. I hate going back to 4:3 cable now that I've got used to watching OTA.

[Haz]

Too bad. It was finally getting interesting in the last few episodes.

[the_fm]

Hope the cancellation lets Fringe stay around awhile longer. :!:

yeah, we just need one more season of fringe to tie everything up. fox has to give that to it's fans. we have 4 seasons so far, they can't end it on a cliffhanger

[halflife150]

Is there any legal online streaming Canadian site that has this show to watch? I remember watching the first few episodes on citytv, but apparently they are gone now because I can't find it anymore. The show kind of sucked but I heard the season finale was decent, so would like to try to watch it.

[Tornado F2]

Is there any legal online streaming Canadian site that has this show to watch? I remember watching the first few episodes on citytv, but apparently they are gone now because I can't find it anymore. The show kind of sucked but I heard the season finale was decent, so would like to try to watch it.

gate... horse... bolted...

Had you tuned in earlier, the show might have survived.

Fox need to keep Fringe going though. I watch it weekly, and buy the boxsets. I'm sure I'm not the exception. Fox owe us fans a proper conclusion.

[Haz]

Fox need to keep Fringe going though. I watch it weekly, and buy the boxsets. I'm sure I'm not the exception. Fox owe us fans a proper conclusion.

I watch Fringe weekly (though I PVR it) and I also buy the Blu-Ray boxsets to show my support for the show.

[BD006]

I stopped watching this after the fourth episode, so I was under the impression it was already cancelled. :|

[iridium001]

Not surprised, too much family drama. It almost became like Full House, but with dinosaurs!

[Tornado F2]

Not surprised, too much family drama. It almost became like Full House, but with dinosaurs!

ABC actually did something like that - called Dinosaurs! It was a hit largely thanks to wisecracking Baby Sinclair (google him). This show could have used a similar comedic character to get people tuning in.

The thing that really killed it with American audiences though, sadly enough, was the collection of non-US accents (which didn't make a lot of sense for its future-world scenario anyway). It's probably doing better in other regions of the world. But the orientation around a single boring family was certainly its most fatal flaw. Typically Spielberg mind, but there was no young Drew Barrymore or Haley Joel Osment here.

[time space]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BkAEH6uX7hQ

[Free Willy]

I couldn't even get through the pilot, the characters were so grating. Has it gotten any better?

[halflife150]

gate... horse... bolted...

Had you tuned in earlier, the show might have survived.

Fox need to keep Fringe going though. I watch it weekly, and buy the boxsets. I'm sure I'm not the exception. Fox owe us fans a proper conclusion.

I did watch the show, but after 2-3 episodes, I found it to suck. But just recently read that the season finale was actually a good episode. So wouldn't mind watching just that season finale, if there is any place that still some tv station that streams it online.

[canadiankorean]

Not surprised, too much family drama. It almost became like Full House, but with dinosaurs!

Don't know about you, I hardly saw any dinosaurs...

[Tornado F2]

Don't know about you, I hardly saw any dinosaurs...

At least Spielberg didn't get to throw in his trademark aliens.

They ruined the ending of A.I., which had looked good through Kubrik's opening 2/3rds (before he died and Spielberg took over).

[the_fm]

ABC actually did something like that - called Dinosaurs! It was a hit largely thanks to wisecracking Baby Sinclair (google him). This show could have used a similar comedic character to get people tuning in.

why make a new show when they could just re-air Dinosaurs?

[Tornado F2]

why make a new show when they could just re-air Dinosaurs?

The state of TV these days, with gazillions of channels of nothing for the most part, interspersed by busy periods (too many shows on, all at the same time, on Tuesday and Sunday evening for me right now - I miss most of them), it would actually be better if they'd rerun some of the old shows. I pick up DVD boxsets from time to time when I come across old favourites, or popular shows that came before my time, and I'm sure I'm not the only one. They could get a lot of mileage out of those old shows. I've commented in the past how I wish Space would show some older sci-fi series from the 70s or 80s, for example, rather than air all the more recent filler they currently have (which they've mostly already aired) just to freshen things up. The same advice can be applied to the more mainstream channels. Don't bother "remaking" a show - usually just a generic show with an old favourite's name applied - but air the actual original instead.

[carmaster]

I don't know why Netflix would even bother with this crap. It costs 4 million an episode to make and looked terrible. I am pretty sure if Netflix takes this series over we can see the cardboard created dinosaurs in the background. The story was horrible and the actors were poorly cast. They should just bury this series and wipe it clean from their memory.