Snowblower / Thrower Deal Watch Thread 2011/12

[NotMoneyGuy]

A little earlier than the start of last year's thread, but yesterday - August 09, 2011 - right beside the grass seed :lol:, Costco Ellesmere and Warden had snow throwers on display! Let the shopping season begin, eh?

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[pacman]

I'm waiting for a deal on the new models of the Toro Single Stage blowers. Anyone have insight on the pricing for the 621 models?

[mrwinky]

I hate to admit it, but I'm getting excited for Snow, I bought the Cub Cadet last year and cant wait for more snow lol, I just need to figure out a way to hook up a Timmy's holder and use the grip warmer to keep it warm lol

[Zenthar]

I should really follow that thread this year. After last year, no way I'm going to shovel all that again...

[riskit]

You beat me to the post

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[Cashfan]

Its nice to see the new seasons thread starting. Belieive it or not, I;ve been checking
here all summer to see the new posts.
I;ve been enjoying my SnoTek 24" last winter and look forward to using it again.
By the way, 29 degrees and sunny in Winterpeg today!

Lets see some more posts and deals.


Dan

[ndog2]

I'm waiting for a deal on the new models of the Toro Single Stage blowers. Anyone have insight on the pricing for the 621 models?

I'm kind of curious about the new ones too; Toro has a lot riding on replacing the r-tek engines with 4 cycle models across the whole line up I think it's probably safe to assume they did their homework. As for the pricing no idea; but homedepot.com (search for toro snow) has a mix of both the old and new models up and some models are $50-$60 under msrp while others are $10 less. My guess is retail prices will be within $50-$100 of those--toro is usually pretty good about not trashing us compared to american prices at least compared to some other OPE makers.



A little earlier than the start of last year's thread, but yesterday - August 09, 2011 - right beside the grass seed :lol:, Costco Ellesmere and Warden had snow throwers on display! Let the shopping season begin, eh?


I thought the Halloween costumes and candy that costco put out 2 weeks ago was pushing it(and I watched people buying the candy too) they seem to be starting the season. I was in Lowes and Rona today with no snowblowers in sight.

[NotMoneyGuy]

I hate to admit it, but I'm getting excited for Snow, I bought the Cub Cadet last year and cant wait for more snow lol, I just need to figure out a way to hook up a Timmy's holder and use the grip warmer to keep it warm lol

Yeah, beverage holders! Got my Ariens Sno-Thro cab (72408000) so late last winter (early March), only saw limited storm action with it. All set now...

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/NotMoneyGuy/SnoThroCabbeers900.jpg

[mrwinky]

Lol do I spy 2 silver bullets in the cab!!!!!

[darcyh]

Yeah, beverage holders! Got my Ariens Sno-Thro cab (72408000) so late last winter (early March), only saw limited storm action with it. All set now...

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/NotMoneyGuy/SnoThroCabbeers900.jpg

Man, I like your style!

[pacman]

I'm kind of curious about the new ones too; Toro has a lot riding on replacing the r-tek engines with 4 cycle models across the whole line up I think it's probably safe to assume they did their homework. As for the pricing no idea; but homedepot.com (search for toro snow) has a mix of both the old and new models up and some models are $50-$60 under msrp while others are $10 less. My guess is retail prices will be within $50-$100 of those--toro is usually pretty good about not trashing us compared to american prices at least compared to some other OPE makers.




Where are you finding the MSRP? I searched all over the Toro site and couldn't find anything.

Thanks
James

[nabate]

Looks like Home Depot has posted their 2011/2012 Sno-Tek Assortment. Minor Refresh ion the Chute.

http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp108/nabate1/Snow.jpg

[polypep]

Got myself a Toro QR621 with Electric start for $399 at HD in early spring (regular $899). Did not see any snow after the purchase but ready for some action this year.

[Blitzo]

I had great luck buying a rebuilt ariens. The thing was over 20 years old, but boy did that thing ever chew through slush and hard snow. Can anyone bring insight into whether the newer snow blowers (like this poulan pro) can compare to an older ariens?

[Barayolayosa]

Subscribed.

I just moved to St. John's, Newfoundland and am definitely in the market for a snowblower. I will be following this thread closely!

[oggie]

I'm looking for one that has steering for my father who is a senior. I assume the costco one doesn't have that?

[uglyguy]

hi All,

It is time for me to get a snowblower from last winter experience. Can you tell me what are the basic knowledge to "invest" in a snowblower? My starting budget is $1K or less.

Thanks,

[NotMoneyGuy]

It is time for me to get a snowblower from last winter experience. Can you tell me what are the basic knowledge to "invest" in a snowblower? My starting budget is $1K or less.

If by "last winter experience" you mean that you had tons of snow, you may be needing / wanting a 2-stage, as opposed to a single-stage. Depends on area and type and amount of snow. Toro makes great single-stage units, and Ariens should be considered if going 2-stage. Honda and Yamaha if you got the bucks, but probably not at the $1K price point.

This link talks about machine selection based on area and amounts of snow and may be useful reading to get you started http://www.ariens.com/products_snow/Pages/snow-blowers.aspx

[ndog2]

Where are you finding the MSRP? I searched all over the Toro site and couldn't find anything.

Thanks
James

From the Toro us website which I was comparing to the us homedepot prices. At this point it's the best we can do there's no Canadian pricing info at all yet.

[lak8]

Haha, and the thread starts. :cheesygri

[ndog2]

Haha, and the thread starts. :cheesygri

It wouldn't be late-summer on rfd without one.

[Slicktoxic]

hi All,

It is time for me to get a snowblower from last winter experience. Can you tell me what are the basic knowledge to "invest" in a snowblower? My starting budget is $1K or less.

Thanks,

The Snowblower homework thread would be a good starting point (albeit it is a long read).

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/official-snowblower-homework-thread-503484/

[uglyguy]

NOTMONEYGUY, SLICKTOXIC

Thank you very much, you have been thanked. I'll start the research/reading this weekend.

**thinking: the machine looks pretty intimidating to me. I now remembered the reason I never got one for the last 7 years :-( **

[Jaremy T]

Should I sit on the fence for a bit, or grab this now and return if another deal comes out? Last winter killed me lol

Is this a half decent unit?

[NotMoneyGuy]

Should I sit on the fence for a bit, or grab this now and return if another deal comes out? Last winter killed me lol

Is this a half decent unit?

Sorry to possibly have misled you; the season opener Poulan "deal" was shown as one of the first merchants (Costco) to market blowers this season, not necessarily to tout that particular unit. IMO, there will be more (read: better) deals soon, it is still way early IMO. Also, that 208 cc may be a bit small on a 24" 2-stage. Wait for HD to roll out the Ariens line-up and pricing soon.

[Dolfan-Neil]

Before you jump on that Poulan Pro bandwagon, take a look at that engine. It's a Powermore which is made in China.

I made the mistake of buying a Cub Cadet a few years ago, and while I was told (at HD) that it was Canadian made, it's a Powermore engine. Through normal snow it is fine, but the wet slushy stuff really bogs it down and you end up having to deal with it by hand.

I bought my father-inlaw a Canadiana (Murray) last year with a Briggs and Stratton engine and was thorough impressed by the engine and what it could handle. The only things missing on the Canadiana 24" that I bought him was the turning controls (man, they make things easier) and the joystick control on the chute (yes, you can crank left and right, but you can't remotely adjust the throwing height).

My 2 cents, take it however you like, but I would never buy another snow thrower with a Powermore engine, B&S for me.

[ndog2]

Unless you're finding a close out deal on a leftover from last year (which can be a great idea, most lines change very little from year to year.) The sales aren't even close to starting; most stores still have to sell off their lawnmowers.

As for the Chinese engines; Ariens uses a LCT engine on the sno-tek series and by most accounts these perform very well. LCT has apparently bought the rights to the Tecumseh Snow King line so we might start seeing those engines again this year or next.

[ndog2]

Homedepot.ca has the full snowblower line up online now http://www.homedepot.ca/catalog/snow-throwers/172306/24/0/P_BuyCount|1 No deals yet but at least you can check the products and start planning your purchase. They're carrying the new toro models and most seem to be $30-$70 more then the .com us prices.

[ywfj]

looking forward to any info & thread. thanks~have a good weekend;)

[Slapshot747]

Not going without this season.. My back needs to be protected...will keep watching thread...cheers all

[Lee C]

Just moved to Barrie I think I am going to need a Snowblower. I will keep an eye on this thread:)

[geenoomee]

Long time lurker, first time poster. I have seen a single stage does it's job down tothe pavement but I have never seen how clean a dual stage is. Can anyone enlighten me please? Thanks.

[window shopper]

http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/Sno-Tek_24_28_4.jpg



http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

this seems like a decent price, im looking at buying this one in the fall. any thoughts on this one anybody?

[ndog2]

Long time lurker, first time poster. I have seen a single stage does it's job down tothe pavement but I have never seen how clean a dual stage is. Can anyone enlighten me please? Thanks.

Generally a good single stage assuming you're not getting too much snow or too wet snow for it to handle will give you that right down to the pavement clean. They use rubber tipped augers to scrape the pavement clean. On a two stage they have adjustable scraper bars to help pull more snow into the auger. If you adjust it properly so it has a good scraping action (but without damaging your surface) you can get to an acceptable level where the sun will probably melt the rest.




http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

this seems like a decent price, im looking at buying this one in the fall. any thoughts on this one anybody?

Last year they put that model on for $599 and $499. Also lowes had a 20% off all snowblowers which HD matched (so $519.) $649 is the regular price but you can do better; plus wait for them to come in store so you're not paying $50+ in shipping.

[$lacker]

I'll be checking this on the regular... new house with a new huge driveway

[Synic_deals]

I really hate these combined deal post. Makes it hard to actually find a deal. Most of the time its not even a deal just a small discount.

[hordosr]

also looking for one this year, will be keeping an eye out

[fruzmatik]

I really hate these combined deal post.

WOW. Thanks for your contribution!

[sczwik]

I was thinking about ordering a Power Clear 621 QZR Single Stage (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621-qzr-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/959625) from homedepot I was just wondering if anyone could answer a few questions I had.

1) Should I wait till it's further in the season before I order?
2) I don't have any dealers around me is the homedepot site my best option? There listed @ $729.00 / 10instock
3) Is the electric start worth $110? My feeling is no...
4) I don't really wish to spend much more then $800 is this my best option?

[Cashfan]

SCZWIK, do yourself a favor and look at the new Snotek 24" at Home Depot.
I bought one last year and its great. Whats better this year is now they have the remote
shute control on the panel. I wish they had it last year!

The engine is fine and more than powerful to handle what Winnipeg threw at me
last winter.

I think for the price, its the #1 contender. I got mine for 499.00 on sale at the beginning of the year.
They did go fast at that price.

My thinking is if you snooze you lose.

Good luck.

Dan

[ywfj]

Does anyone have comments on the link below? how is the price? thanks a lot everyone!

http://www.homedepot.com/Outdoors-Outdoor-Power-Equipment-Snow-Equipment-Snow-Blowers/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbxc5/R-202222476/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

comparing with this http://www.homedepot.com/Outdoors-Outdoor-Power-Equipment-Snow-Equipment-Snow-Blowers/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbxc5/R-202222490/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

[Ballroomblitz]

Anyoneelse get an error message opening up the link? Winters just around the corner once more have to start researching for a good deal.

[ywfj]

Anyoneelse get an error message opening up the link? Winters just around the corner once more have to start researching for a good deal.

oops, I went to the homedepot.com. that should be the reason. I should probably go to homedepot.ca;):(

[brunes]

I really hate these combined deal post. Makes it hard to actually find a deal. Most of the time its not even a deal just a small discount.

Any really good deal will have its own post anyway so it doesn't matter much.

[Carc]

I was thinking about ordering a Power Clear 621 QZR Single Stage (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621-qzr-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/959625) from homedepot I was just wondering if anyone could answer a few questions I had.

1) Should I wait till it's further in the season before I order?
2) I don't have any dealers around me is the homedepot site my best option? There listed @ $729.00 / 10instock
3) Is the electric start worth $110? My feeling is no...
4) I don't really wish to spend much more then $800 is this my best option?

You're looking at a top quality snow thrower! 1) It's always tough to say
2) Home Depot is probably your best bet, but if you have a problem you'll need a Toro Dealer
3) Generally you don't need an electric start depends on if your wife or kids are going to use it and have a problem pulling on the recoil - everybody's have different strength
4) I have a 221QE and just love it and should be enough for me. You have to ask yourself can you throw the snow onto the snowbank from where you're clearing or do you have to throw it ahead and then throw it over to the snowbank.

[sczwik]

You're looking at a top quality snow thrower! 1) It's always tough to say
2) Home Depot is probably your best bet, but if you have a problem you'll need a Toro Dealer
3) Generally you don't need an electric start depends on if your wife or kids are going to use it and have a problem pulling on the recoil - everybody's have different strength
4) I have a 221QE and just love it and should be enough for me. You have to ask yourself can you throw the snow onto the snowbank from where you're clearing or do you have to throw it ahead and then throw it over to the snowbank.

Thanks.. I made the purchase for the 621 my driveway isn't really all that big I do live in Canada though I'm hoping this little guy can keep up with some of the winter storms we get..

[pacman]

For those of you with Toros....what are your thoughts on the base model 621's vs the higher end models?

The electric start vs recoil start is an easy decision to make, but what about the upgrades such as the zip deflector chute or the chute controls on the handle?

There is a $200 premium for some of those options and it's hard to determine if it's worth it.

[Just Looking For a Deal]

For those of you with Toros....what are your thoughts on the base model 621's vs the higher end models?

The electric start vs recoil start is an easy decision to make, but what about the upgrades such as the zip deflector chute or the chute controls on the handle?

There is a $200 premium for some of those options and it's hard to determine if it's worth it.

The Zip Deflector is very usefull, the chute control is really worth it. When going back and forth or turning around, you just slide it up or down and it redirects snow on the fly (chute control), its a big reason why this machine is so easy to use and fast. Just look around, most snow plow contractors carry this in the back of their pick-up.

[pacman]

The Zip Deflector is very usefull, the chute control is really worth it. When going back and forth or turning around, you just slide it up or down and it redirects snow on the fly (chute control), its a big reason why this machine is so easy to use and fast. Just look around, most snow plow contractors carry this in the back of their pick-up.

Thanks for the reply. Does the chute control seem like it's a durable system?

[Casper]

for anyone with an amerifriend...
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07188957000P?sid=IAx20071211x000001&aff=Y

[Just Looking For a Deal]

Thanks for the reply. Does the chute control seem like it's a durable system?

Only used it for about a year, but no issues, if you were to store it outside I could see the snow melting on it and freezing (never heard of this though), but if you put it in the garage, the snow just melts off. I have the electric start, it is just fabulous. One more thought, this year they went to the 4 stroke engine throughout the line, it is a slightly heavier unit in terms or weight, and now requires an oil change. Check the video out on Toro's website, you'll see if it suits your needs or not. http://www.toro.com/en-ca/Homeowner/Snow-Blowers/Single-Stage/Pages/Model.aspx?pid=Power-Clear-621QZE-38459

[ywfj]

found this this morning. now $599. seems a big save. any experience with this machine? thanks and have a great long weekend:razz:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/SnowRemoval/Snowthrowers/PRD~1993700P/Yard+Machines+2-Stage+208+cc+Snowthrower.jsp?locale=en

[pacman]

This Briggs and Stratton model at Canadian Tire seems to have all of the features of the Toro (which sells for $829) for $599.

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/SnowRemoval/Snowthrowers/PRDOVR~0603762P/Briggs+%26+Stratton+Single-Stage+Snow+Thrower%2C+205+CC.jsp?locale=en

any thoughts on this model?

[fifa204]

found this this morning. now $599. seems a big save. any experience with this machine? thanks and have a great long weekend:razz:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/SnowRemoval/Snowthrowers/PRD~1993700P/Yard+Machines+2-Stage+208+cc+Snowthrower.jsp?locale=en

Showing up as 799 for me. =(

[mrwinky]

I was wondering what peoples thoughts are on the Universal Cabs for these? I have a Cub Cadet and was thinking of getting the Cab for it :)

Winky

[666Hunter666]

Saw the 27" Poulan Pro at Costco also for $899.99. Costco Clareview in Edmonton.

http://img43.imageshack.us/img43/9103/picture003vjo.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/43/picture003vjo.jpg/) http://img153.imageshack.us/img153/2092/picture017ki.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/153/picture017ki.jpg/) http://img695.imageshack.us/img695/3011/picture014yc.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/695/picture014yc.jpg/) http://img97.imageshack.us/img97/6508/picture012ip.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/97/picture012ip.jpg/) http://img801.imageshack.us/img801/8145/picture004ev.th.jpg (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/801/picture004ev.jpg/)

I sold my Ariens compact in the spring because it did not have the remote chute deflection. So I need to find another to replace it.

[ywfj]

Showing up as 799 for me. =(

$599 is from tomorrow, got the info from CT flyer:o

[shingor6]

What would you buy between the :

-poulan pro 27" at costco for 899$

-Ariens deluxe 28" for 999$ : http://www.ariens.com/products_snow/s_deluxe_group/s_deluxe_28/Pages/features.aspx

[NotMoneyGuy]

What would you buy between the :

-poulan pro 27" at costco for 899$

-Ariens deluxe 28" for 999$ : http://www.ariens.com/products_snow/s_deluxe_group/s_deluxe_28/Pages/features.aspx

Nice price on the 28 Deluxe! No brainer, 14" auger and 14" impeller and orange, Ariens orange. They changed the light and dash from last year, see pic from page one, the one with the beer holders cab.

[Dave_H]

What would you buy between the :

-poulan pro 27" at costco for 899$

-Ariens deluxe 28" for 999$ : http://www.ariens.com/products_snow/s_deluxe_group/s_deluxe_28/Pages/features.aspx


May I ask where this deal is for the Ariens?

[Bordak]

What would you buy between the :

-poulan pro 27" at costco for 899$

-Ariens deluxe 28" for 999$ : http://www.ariens.com/products_snow/s_deluxe_group/s_deluxe_28/Pages/features.aspx

If you can link me where to find the Deluxe 28" for $999, I'll buy one today.

[infared_vision]

found this this morning. now $599. seems a big save. any experience with this machine? thanks and have a great long weekend:razz:

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/SnowRemoval/Snowthrowers/PRD~1993700P/Yard+Machines+2-Stage+208+cc+Snowthrower.jsp?locale=en

Does anyone have feedback on this snowblower....i checked the net can't find much....i just bought it and want to make sure it's a good machine...

any feedback would be much appreciated.
thanks.

[ndog2]

Does anyone have feedback on this snowblower....i checked the net can't find much....i just bought it and want to make sure it's a good machine...

any feedback would be much appreciated.
thanks.

Built by MTD it's ok entry level snowblower with the basics in terms of features. If you paid $799 take it back for sure you can do much better for that kind of money. $599 is a different story can't say take it back for sure but I would. Either upping your budget by $50 or waiting for a sale gets you to a better place. Something like the ariens sno-tek 24" is $649 without any sales (HD hasn't even had their first snow blower sale yet; it'll go on sale for $599 or less if they repeat last year's sales) But even at full price of $649 you get a more reputable brand then the yard-machines and way way more features: remote deflector control, steel chute, 6 fwd speeds 2 reverse, longer warranty, bigger clearing path, arguably a better engine(but they're both still chinese engines), pin lock wheels.

[infared_vision]

Built by MTD it's ok entry level snowblower with the basics in terms of features. If you paid $799 take it back for sure you can do much better for that kind of money. $599 is a different story can't say take it back for sure but I would. Either upping your budget by $50 or waiting for a sale gets you to a better place. Something like the ariens sno-tek 24" is $649 without any sales (HD hasn't even had their first snow blower sale yet; it'll go on sale for $599 or less if they repeat last year's sales) But even at full price of $649 you get a more reputable brand then the yard-machines and way way more features: remote deflector control, steel chute, 6 fwd speeds 2 reverse, longer warranty, bigger clearing path, arguably a better engine(but they're both still chinese engines), pin lock wheels.

thanks for the feedback..i picked it up for $599 looking around it doesn't seem to have all the features some of the other snow blowers in this price range do....i think i'll get a refund and wait for one of the other sales....

[chachu]

How good are Troy Bilts ? CT has it I think for 1K for 28 " with all bells and whistles .
Poulan Pro 24" - 699.
Is is to early ..? What are your choices with dual stage 1,2,3....brand wise,long term maintainence ?

[canuck88]

If you can link me where to find the Deluxe 28" for $999, I'll buy one today.

Seems that homedepot.com has them for $999 with free shipping. Incredible that homedepot.ca charges 45% more ($1399) and then adds shipping on top of that.

[window shopper]

Does anyone have feedback on this snowblower....i checked the net can't find much....i just bought it and want to make sure it's a good machine...

any feedback would be much appreciated.
thanks.

link doesnt work

[Bordak]

Seems that homedepot.com has them for $999 with free shipping. Incredible that homedepot.ca charges 45% more ($1399) and then adds shipping on top of that.

That is absurd, and being from Newfoundland, a road trip to the US is not feasible. I'll have to hold out for a sale / cash back as a giftcard special at HD and cut my losses.

[ndog2]

How good are Troy Bilts ? CT has it I think for 1K for 28 " with all bells and whistles .
Poulan Pro 24" - 699.
Is is to early ..? What are your choices with dual stage 1,2,3....brand wise,long term maintainence ?

They're also MTD built it seems other then the B&S single stage CTs entire line up is MTD this year. Troy-bilt is one of the MTD premium brands(like Cub Cadet, Bolens, and White Outdoor) so you'll get all of the features compared to the yard machines models.

The poulan is built by AYP.

It might be a little early so far only CT has had any "sales" but the haven't been that great. Nothing at HD or Lowes yet. Single stage or dual stage depends on your surface (paved, gravel) amount of snow you get, how heavy/wet it is and what does the plow leave at the end of the driveway. The top end brands are Honda, Yamaha, Ariens(sno-tek) and Toro, but the first two are astronomically priced and they don't really justify it. MTD, AYP and B&S make virtually everything else no matter what the brand says on it and they make a very wide range of machines at differing quality level. They're not all bad choices you just have to choose carefully and shop around because one store might be selling it's version for less than others for the exact same snowblower with different stickers. This year they're all 4 cycle engines most brands are either using B&S engines or private labelled overseas engines you maintain them like any OPE engine. Use fresh stabilized gas and change the oil/plugs/filters as recommended any of the engines will probably outlast the rest of the blower.



Seems that homedepot.com has them for $999 with free shipping. Incredible that homedepot.ca charges 45% more ($1399) and then adds shipping on top of that.


That is absurd, and being from Newfoundland, a road trip to the US is not feasible. I'll have to hold out for a sale / cash back as a giftcard special at HD and cut my losses.

The prices have gotten a little better; on some brands but ariens is still a ways off on the high end models. Home depot should be doing their gift card back sale they've done the last couple years once it starts getting a little cold and hopefully lowes does the 20% off sale again which is more or less the best deal around save for perhaps the end of season clearance.




One thing I noticed this year MTD also has more single stages with the toro "copy" paddle system, not just the B&S single stages anymore. They're selling them as troy-bilt at CT and cub cadet at HD http://www.homedepot.ca/product/208cc-ohv-21-inch-single-stage-cub-cadet-snow-thrower/942306. With the new toros all being 4 cycle this could really shake up the single stage market.

[chachu]

Single stage or dual stage depends on your surface (paved, gravel)

Thanks for advice ndog.
I have a interlocked paved driveway ,what are deciding factors when picking up a snowblower for such a surface ?

[pulsar]

Sears.ca has a bunch of their snowblowers on sale currently if you can live with the Craftsman brand and I believe they have one Poulan Pro.

[Barayolayosa]

Sears.ca has a bunch of their snowblowers on sale currently if you can live with the Craftsman brand and I believe they have one Poulan Pro.

Yup, looks like they're pretty much all on sale.

How are these units in terms of quality?

[pacman]

I went to Home Depot last night to look at the single stage Toro machines. I didn't realize how big the 621 models were! I think they are going to be too big to fit in my garage in both the winter and summer. They also had the 412 model there, which was quite a bit smaller, but has a much smaller engine as well. The price is around $500 or so on those.

Now I'm debating the Sears Craftsman models, as it seems like you get much more bang for your buck with regards to price. Heck, the fully loaded Craftsman model with a 205cc B&S engine are $300 less than the Toro (the craftsmans are on sale right now) and it has all of the same features.

Any input on the single stage Craftsmans such as this one?:

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

[canuck88]

What would you buy between the :

-poulan pro 27" at costco for 899$

-Ariens deluxe 28" for 999$ : http://www.ariens.com/products_snow/s_deluxe_group/s_deluxe_28/Pages/features.aspx

Dude, this is RFD - you can't post that you can get a Deluxe 28 for $999 and then not post any further details!

[Bordak]

Dude, this is RFD - you can't post that you can get a Deluxe 28 for $999 and then not post any further details!

He was looking at the US Home Depot site.

[ndog2]

Thanks for advice ndog.
I have a interlocked paved driveway ,what are deciding factors when picking up a snowblower for such a surface ?

If the interlock(or asphalt for that matter) is relatively flat a single stage can give you a good down to the pavement clean. Single stage use a rubber auger that scrapes the driveway surface clean. If your driveway is in poor condition with big cracks/dips, loose pieces or sinking parts the single stage may not clean as well. The real important factor is single stages should not be used on gravel or any surface that's loose or breaking up. A two stage can get a good clean too but you'll have to find point of optimum cleaning and adjust the shoes and scraper bar to get as close as possible without scraping and damaging the surface.


Yup, looks like they're pretty much all on sale.

How are these units in terms of quality?




Now I'm debating the Sears Craftsman models, as it seems like you get much more bang for your buck with regards to price. Heck, the fully loaded Craftsman model with a 205cc B&S engine are $300 less than the Toro (the craftsmans are on sale right now) and it has all of the same features.

Any input on the single stage Craftsmans such as this one?:

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

All of the craftsman blowers are built by MTD, AYP and B&S. The quality varies based on the features sears picked for that model. That particular single stage is built by B&S (the former murray manufacturing group) and is the same blower as: http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/SnowRemoval/Snowthrowers/PRD~0603762P/Briggs+%26+Stratton+Single-Stage+Snow+Thrower%2C+205+CC.jsp?locale=en just with different paint. Last year a couple posters bought the B&S version from CT and were very happy with the results. Perhaps one of them will chime in and post an update but if not look at the 2010/2011 thread as this model was introduced new last year. The real key is the "toro copy" paddle previous to this most other non-toro single stages used a different style of auger with not so good results. The Toros do cost more but they're proven machines backed by one of the top brands in the OPE game. Sometimes it's worth it and previous to last year I would have said toro or nothing for a single stage but these "copy" machines seem to work just as well; but as they're brand new we really don't know how they'll hold up and what the service will be and parts availability. But they could be great in that regard too for all we know.

[rgilld]

Can anyone comments on these two sears models? At this price point should I be getting a different brand? Thanks.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-208cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AS53TF599
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-dual-stage-208cc-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AM53TF599

[Barayolayosa]

Can anyone comments on these two sears models? At this price point should I be getting a different brand? Thanks.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-208cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AS53TF599
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-dual-stage-208cc-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AM53TF599

I too am trying to decide on which model to buy. I have been advised NOT to buy one with a plastic chute. I googled it, and it appears that they are very unreliable - best to go metal. I went to Sears to see for myself, and found that the plastic is extremely flimsy. I'd say once it's subjected to cold winter temps, any reasonably-sized chunk of ice would probably break it.

[tosaid]

I too am trying to decide on which model to buy. I have been advised NOT to buy one with a plastic chute. I googled it, and it appears that they are very unreliable - best to go metal. I went to Sears to see for myself, and found that the plastic is extremely flimsy. I'd say once it's subjected to cold winter temps, any reasonably-sized chuck of ice would probably break it.

Which one of these two models got a plastic chute?

Thank you.

[insanity]

Folks, whichever blower/thrower you buy, make sure its a 4 cycle (oil and gas are separate) and not a 2 cycle (mix oil/gas). It is worth the money because with the 2 cycle ones (the one I have), you will stink of exhaust fumes to the point where you will need to change your clothing and maybe even take a shower, at least this is what I'm experiencing with my TORO.

[manyapples]

Which one of these two models got a plastic chute?

Thank you.

Both

[shingor6]

Dude, this is RFD - you can't post that you can get a Deluxe 28 for $999 and then not post any further details!

I was assuming that homedepot.com had the same price has canada because 1$US = 1$Can, I was wrong.

I had to go for work to the us last week and I bring back the ariens 28" deluxe, I didn't pay for transport, so pretty good deal.

[ndog2]

Folks, whichever blower/thrower you buy, make sure its a 4 cycle (oil and gas are separate) and not a 2 cycle (mix oil/gas). It is worth the money because with the 2 cycle ones (the one I have), you will stink of exhaust fumes to the point where you will need to change your clothing and maybe even take a shower, at least this is what I'm experiencing with my TORO.

No one is making 2 cycle snow blowers as of this year. Toro single stage with r-tek engines in the 2010 model year were the last. The 2011 models are all 4 stroke OHV engines; if you find one with a 2 stroke engine it's old stock. That said if you want to get rid of the toro I'll give you 50 bucks for it ;)


Can anyone comments on these two sears models? At this price point should I be getting a different brand? Thanks.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-208cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AS53TF599
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-dual-stage-208cc-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AM53TF599

Those some of the higher end craftsman models probably made by mtd. I'm not really sure what the difference is. My guess the first one is left over from last year and the second is the "new" 2011 model. You're very close in price to the 26" Toro and maybe some of the ariens on sale.


The plastic chutes are debatable; it's possible they can break and some early ones did but plastics have improved and it would take a very large piece of ice to crack one. But other than the ariens models almost everything has plastic chutes. Toro models have plastic chutes and they're guaranteed forever.

[tosaid]

I too am trying to decide on which model to buy. I have been advised NOT to buy one with a plastic chute. I googled it, and it appears that they are very unreliable - best to go metal. I went to Sears to see for myself, and found that the plastic is extremely flimsy. I'd say once it's subjected to cold winter temps, any reasonably-sized chuck of ice would probably break it.


No one is making 2 cycle snow blowers as of this year. Toro single stage with r-tek engines in the 2010 model year were the last. The 2011 models are all 4 stroke OHV engines; if you find one with a 2 stroke engine it's old stock. That said if you want to get rid of the toro I'll give you 50 bucks for it ;)



Those some of the higher end craftsman models probably made by mtd. I'm not really sure what the difference is. My guess the first one is left over from last year and the second is the "new" 2011 model. You're very close in price to the 26" Toro and maybe some of the ariens on sale.


The plastic chutes are debatable; it's possible they can break and some early ones did but plastics have improved and it would take a very large piece of ice to crack one. But other than the ariens models almost everything has plastic chutes. Toro models have plastic chutes and they're guaranteed forever.

What is the big difference between 208cc vs 250cc beside speed? it s it worth it to go big in terme of cc?

Thank you.

[pulsar]

What is the big difference between 208cc vs 250cc beside speed? it s it worth it to go big in terme of cc?

This all depends on the type of snow you get. If you get the wet heavy snow, and deal with a lot of ice/end of driveway plowed stuff, then you need the higher discplacement so that the snow blower can throw it with easy much better instead of bogging down and throw it only 1 foot ahead.

Lower cc's best for dry type snow.
Higher cc's best for plowed snow/ice.

If you can afford it, nothing wrong with more power.

[hordosr]

i have a 3 car wide driveway and a 3 car deep between the houses, flat driveway, usually get lots of driftage between the 2 houses
would a 4 stroke single stage do the trick, got a snowthrower last year for Xmas and hated it and took it back to walmart....would like to go the snowblower route and kick some snow in the ***** this year without busting my back....price range is def less than 1k - more between 500 and 800 but not sure if that is even possible...when did all of the before season sales happen last year? what brand is best?

thanks for your help

[pacman]

After calling various independent Toro dealers in Calgary and Edmonton, I've decided I'm going with the small, 87cc 418ZE model, which MSRP's at $499 and Homedepot sells for $450.

This model was suggested by 8 of the places I called based on the amount of snowfall Calgary gets and I only have a 2 car driveway to "blow".

I was going to buy the larger 163cc 621QZE model, but the unit was quite big and it would be a hassle storing it in the garage.

Anyone know if HomeDepot puts the snowblowers on sale before the snow arrives?

[hordosr]

After calling various independent Toro dealers in Calgary and Edmonton, I've decided I'm going with the small, 87cc 418ZE model, which MSRP's at $499 and Homedepot sells for $450.

This model was suggested by 8 of the places I called based on the amount of snowfall Calgary gets and I only have a 2 car driveway to "blow".

I was going to buy the larger 163cc 621QZE model, but the unit was quite big and it would be a hassle storing it in the garage.

Anyone know if HomeDepot puts the snowblowers on sale before the snow arrives?

+1

[hordosr]

Looks like Home Depot has posted their 2011/2012 Sno-Tek Assortment. Minor Refresh ion the Chute.

http://i402.photobucket.com/albums/pp108/nabate1/Snow.jpg

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

the 24 shows up as 649...hmm

[rgilld]

Sorry I should have mentioned that the cheaper one does not have heated handles otherwise they look the same. So you are paying $100 for this feature.


Can anyone comments on these two sears models? At this price point should I be getting a different brand? Thanks.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-208cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AS53TF599
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-dual-stage-208cc-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AM53TF599

[ndog2]

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

the 24 shows up as 649...hmm

$649 is the price in store too; it seems to be a regular price. That image was from really early when they first appeared.




Anyone know if HomeDepot puts the snowblowers on sale before the snow arrives?

Yes they usually put on the blowers with a mail in rebate gift card when it starts getting a little closer to snow season. Look at last year's thread for the dates. There's also the lowe's 20% off sale that HD will match.

[jed]

Sorry I should have mentioned that the cheaper one does not have heated handles otherwise they look the same. So you are paying $100 for this feature.

I have heated handles on my Craftsman 305cc, and would NOT be without them. They were an absolute Godsend last year for me.

[Barayolayosa]

For those that are intersted, Honda snowblowers are on sale. They aren't discounted by much, but I don't think they have to be in order for them to sell...

http://powerequipment.honda.ca/snowblowers

[ScubaSteve]

Originally Posted by hordosr
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-...x-speed/918481

the 24 shows up as 649...hmm$649 is the price in store too; it seems to be a regular price. That image was from really early when they first appeared
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
This seems like a good deal for an Arien branded snowblower. I just pickup up the following Poulan Pro model on clearance from Sears for $670. At first glance the Poulan Pro looks/sounds better based on what the salesman told me (Tecumseh engine, power steering, metal chute etc), but intrigued by the Arien side of the equation.

http://www.poulanpro.com/node7967.aspx?pid=211222

Any idea how the Poulan Pro compares to the SnowTek above from HD ?

Wondering if I should take the Poulan Pro back and get the SnowTek?

[mcmanus_78]

Just bought this baby :

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-30-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TH599 (Craftsman 30 inch - 357cc)

Craftsman 30 inch - 357cc engine Snow Thrower for 1039$ (1188$ all in). We get a lot of snow here in Quebec and I have a huge driveway (80' X 20')

Seems to be the same as a lot of MTD models and the same as the Cub Cadet 530 SWE. The only difference is the color. The Cub Cadet sells for 1599$ at HD.

Any thoughts, opinion or review?

[Just Looking For a Deal]

Folks, whichever blower/thrower you buy, make sure its a 4 cycle (oil and gas are separate) and not a 2 cycle (mix oil/gas). It is worth the money because with the 2 cycle ones (the one I have), you will stink of exhaust fumes to the point where you will need to change your clothing and maybe even take a shower, at least this is what I'm experiencing with my TORO.

i have the toro 2 stroke, and do not have any of the issues you stated. you can go back to other threads and see the recommendations. i use amsoil, one of their versions is smokeless. Also their oils burn with a sweet smell. i grasp the 4 stroke idea, but on a smaller machine I prefer to not have to change the oil, prefer a lighter machine with less maintenance, and you can never really get tired of the 2 stroke sound . To each his own i guess, i have a mix of 2 and 4 strokes.

[howmuch]

Just got back from the new Lowes on the Queensway, where they have a "CANADIANA" 24in snowblower with a 208cc Briggs and Stratton engine for $698. Does anyone have any information and/or experience with this machine?

[ndog2]

Just got back from the new Lowes on the Queensway, where they have a "CANADIANA" 24in snowblower with a 208cc Briggs and Stratton engine for $698. Does anyone have any information and/or experience with this machine?

If you look at last year's thread I posted in it with the complete breakdown of the models. But basically, they're made by Briggs & Stratton and it was a brand that they only sold in Europe (I guess even in Nordic countries Canada = snow.) until last year when Lowes started to sell them. They share common components and design with Snapper/Simplicity and Brute snow blowers. I don't know if anyone bought one last year but look at the old thread to see manuals and thoughts.

[fifa204]

Wonder if its going to be a slow year for Snowblower sales... typically HD has had one by now. =(

[triple5]

I saw Walmart Brampton have Poulan PR521 single stage snowblowers for $198.00. They look like the same 139CC unit they were selling on boxing day.
Great price for anyone looking for a single stage.

[nino]

I saw Walmart Brampton have Poulan PR521 single stage snowblowers for $198.00. They look like the same 139CC unit they were selling on boxing day.
Great price for anyone looking for a single stage.

Sounds like a good deal.

[jonmar]

What time of year are the best deals normally put out there?

[infared_vision]

I saw Walmart Brampton have Poulan PR521 single stage snowblowers for $198.00. They look like the same 139CC unit they were selling on boxing day.
Great price for anyone looking for a single stage.

does anyone have and reviews on this snowblower ?

looking for something for a double car drive way.

[djemzine]

does anyone have and reviews on this snowblower ?

looking for something for a double car drive way.

+1 our driveway can hold up to 4 cars, quiet big.

[ndog2]

does anyone have and reviews on this snowblower ?

looking for something for a double car drive way.


+1 our driveway can hold up to 4 cars, quiet big.

Search for last year's thread and look for posts around boxing day that's when walmart first got these snow blowers; a number of people bought them and gave impressions.

[NotMoneyGuy]

Bad news, those waiting for HD's 20% missed the boat sort of. I read about Sears' sale here, but till I got going through my flyers tonight (for Blue Bin tomorrow) I did not know the scope of their sale. (I don't like Sears btw.) Their now expired Sep 10/11 - Sep 14/11 "Snowfest on Now" flyer stated "20% off all reg. priced snowblowers". That is the exact type of flyer that one should be taking to HD for a match off of their regular prices. Sorry to harp on this after the fact, but just a heads up for the next time you see such a % sale elsewhere. I have pulled this off with Zellers flyers on lawnmowers at HD, so trust me, it works.

[djemzine]

I know that CT has a good deal on Briggs & Stratton according to their latest flyer:

Briggs & Stratton 250CC/27" is $1199.99 + taxes PLUS get a $100 Bonus Card
http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444331 8895&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672077&bmUID=1316793944059

Briggs & Stratton 208CC/22" is $549.99 + taxes PLUS get a $50 Bonus Card
http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=84552444331 8894&FOLDER%3C%3Efolder_id=1408474396672077&bmUID=1316794268570

http://i52.tinypic.com/2ln7c5t.jpg

I am not too sure if the $100 Bonus Card or $50 Bonus Card is already included in the sale price or if its extra. To confirm, would be best to call your local CT Store.

[fifa204]

Saw this in today's Walmart flyer

Murray 8 TP/24" Snow Blower - Electric start Briggs & Stratton 6fwd 2rvs $593

[lili78]

I was at walmart today Vaughn location they have the pr521 for sale 198 I paid 288 plus tax last year that sux do u think I can get a price adjustment? Lol:cheesygri

[ledanqc]

I m looking at Husqvarna 1827EXLT with trac drive. Any comment on this brand ? Seen it for 2299 CAD, anyone have seen better ? Thanks
http://www.husqvarna.com/us/homeowner/products/snow-throwers/1827exlt/
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1876/1827exlt794d428c.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/1827exlt794d428c.png/)

[brunes]

I m looking at Husqvarna 1827EXLT with trac drive. Any comment on this brand ? Seen it for 2299 CAD, anyone have seen better ? Thanks
http://www.husqvarna.com/us/homeowner/products/snow-throwers/1827exlt/
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1876/1827exlt794d428c.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/1827exlt794d428c.png/)

That thing looks like it could eat some of the other blowers in this thread for breakfast.

[djemzine]

I was at walmart today Vaughn location they have the pr521 for sale 198 I paid 288 plus tax last year that sux do u think I can get a price adjustment? Lol:cheesygri

Is it only the Vaughan location that they have this? I called up the Major Mac/Bayview location in Richmond Hill, they said they don't sell snow blowers :(. Do you know if they have more?



That thing looks like it could eat some of the other blowers in this thread for breakfast.

Lol

[jed]

I m looking at Husqvarna 1827EXLT with trac drive. Any comment on this brand ? Seen it for 2299 CAD, anyone have seen better ? Thanks
http://www.husqvarna.com/us/homeowner/products/snow-throwers/1827exlt/
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1876/1827exlt794d428c.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/1827exlt794d428c.png/)

I don't think you'll come close for those kind of features in Canada. A friend of mine is on his way back from Kalispell, MT today, where he got their last year's model tracked Honda for around 2 grand. Up here, closer to 3 IIRC.

[Carc]

I m looking at Husqvarna 1827EXLT with trac drive. Any comment on this brand ? Seen it for 2299 CAD, anyone have seen better ? Thanks
http://www.husqvarna.com/us/homeowner/products/snow-throwers/1827exlt/
http://img5.imageshack.us/img5/1876/1827exlt794d428c.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/5/1827exlt794d428c.png/)

That looks like a pretty nasty machine, nothing will stop that!
Hane you looked at the Ariens? They have a comparible machine!

[tommyle]

There's currently a discount of $130 on this single-stage Honda. http://powerequipment.honda.ca/snowblowers/hs520c2
How is it compared to a same priced Toro?

[pacman]

There's currently a discount of $130 on this single-stage Honda. http://powerequipment.honda.ca/snowblowers/hs520c2
How is it compared to a same priced Toro?

I've done lots of research on this Honda compared to the Toro 621 model, and everyone raves about the Honda. The frustrating thing is, the Honda dealers (in Calgary at least) are adding on $170 to the price for PDI and freight, so it brings the price back up again.

I tried to negotiate the PDI and Freight and they would not budge. In fact, they really couldn't be bothered to help me out, as the snowblowers were taking up a small corner in the big Honda dealership and they were busy running around selling motorbikes, scooters, ATV's, etc

[smokeeater]

Hey all...I've been watching this thread for a while cause I need a snowblower, but now a friend has offered me this..

A Murray from Home depot appox 8 yrs old
31" 12h.p.
apparently still see knobs on tires and it was hardly used for first 5 yrs and then say in garage for last 3

for $500.00
Is that too much?

Any help is greatly appreciated

[cross2010]

The Snow Joe MAX at Costco.ca (http://tinyurl.com/6ylo8gr) is BACK for 2011! Last year's batch sold out quickly. Going for $199 (free shipping). I just picked one up and looking forward to using it.

http://content.costco.ca/Images/Content/Product/285211c.jpg

Features:

Instant start
Easy push-button switch
180-degree adjustable chute
Chute deflector controls height of snow stream
20-W halogen light
Scraper clears to the pavement
13.5 A motor moves up to 294.8 kg (650 lb.) of snow per minute
4 steel-blade rotor throws snow up to 6.1 m (20 ft.)
Cuts up to 45.7 cm (18 in.) wide and 25.4 cm (10 in.) deep in one pass
Convenient, compact shape
Compact wheels for easy maneuverability
Maintenance free
CETL compliant


Linky: http://tinyurl.com/6ylo8gr

[DaLurker]

Is it only the Vaughan location that they have this? I called up the Major Mac/Bayview location in Richmond Hill, they said they don't sell snow blowers :(. Do you know if they have more

I went to Vaughn to pick one up. Looks like they had close to 10 there.

Note other walmarts should be getting snowblowers soon.

[NotMoneyGuy]

I was at walmart today Vaughn location they have the pr521 for sale 198 I paid 288 plus tax last year that sux do u think I can get a price adjustment? Lol:cheesygri


I went to Vaughn to pick one up. Looks like they had close to 10 there.

Note other walmarts should be getting snowblowers soon.

Here's what the larger sibling PR621 sounds like with its 208 cm3 engine (vs. the smaller 136 cm3 one.) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VAwKtXXhiCE&feature=related

The thing is really easy to whip around in tight quarters, very nimble and agile. Not sure how the smaller motor will throw slush as the the 208 just pukes it out. Then again, the 249 cm3 Ariens is no fan of slush either.

[ledanqc]

That looks like a pretty nasty machine, nothing will stop that!
Hane you looked at the Ariens? They have a comparible machine!

Yes but feature are not as good like hydrostatic speed and power steering and more expensive too

[Barayolayosa]

I ordered the Honda HS928TCD:

http://powerequipment.honda.ca/assets/Models/9999/hs900/hs928tcd_r_232______red_front.png?Crop=auto&Width=365&Height=365

Not cheap, but I have to say, I wasn't exactly comforted the by quality of this year's line-up from Sears. My brother and I looked around quite a bit, and I just wasn't completely happy with any of the other offerings. Being in Newfoundland, I need something with major throwing power, and I'm sure the tracks won't go astray either (although this wasn't on my list of 'must-haves').

At $300 off, they just don't get any cheaper, which is kind of brutal actually!

[Ungie]

Comments from anyone who bought this unit last year? Would it be suitable for a gravel walkway?

Thanks!



The Snow Joe MAX at Costco.ca (http://tinyurl.com/6ylo8gr) is BACK for 2011! Last year's batch sold out quickly. Going for $199 (free shipping). I just picked one up and looking forward to using it.

http://content.costco.ca/Images/Content/Product/285211c.jpg

Features:

Instant start
Easy push-button switch
180-degree adjustable chute
Chute deflector controls height of snow stream
20-W halogen light
Scraper clears to the pavement
13.5 A motor moves up to 294.8 kg (650 lb.) of snow per minute
4 steel-blade rotor throws snow up to 6.1 m (20 ft.)
Cuts up to 45.7 cm (18 in.) wide and 25.4 cm (10 in.) deep in one pass
Convenient, compact shape
Compact wheels for easy maneuverability
Maintenance free
CETL compliant


Linky: http://tinyurl.com/6ylo8gr

[Sloan55]

It is time for me to make the purchase of a single stage snowblower, I have been waiting for the HD to have sale, but noticed that Sears has the following machine on

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932#BVReviews

Any thoughts on the reliability of this machine? I have about $70 in Sears gift cards that I can use towards it which is why I am considering it, is it comparable to the following:

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621qze-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/960185

Any insight would be appreciated.

[sroghen]

It is time for me to make the purchase of a single stage snowblower, I have been waiting for the HD to have sale, but noticed that Sears has the following machine on

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932#BVReviews

Any thoughts on the reliability of this machine? I have about $70 in Sears gift cards that I can use towards it which is why I am considering it, is it comparable to the following:

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621qze-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/960185

Any insight would be appreciated.


I am actually in the same situation comparing these 2 models. Any experts can share their views on these: features/functionality/price/support and warranty issues?

[djemzine]

Is a single stage snow blower good for a 4 car driveway or is a dual stage/2 stage recommended/required?

[jjj112]

Is a single stage snow blower good for a 4 car driveway or is a dual stage/2 stage recommended/required?

I have a single and a 4 car driveway(Toro ccr 3650 6 years young):-0. fast and easy to use......:razz:

[Barayolayosa]

In terms of single vs. dual stage, it's not about the size of the area in which you'll be using the blower (ie. a 1 car vs. a 4 car driveway). The more important factor is how much snow you get in that same area.

So, a four-car driveway with 3 cm of snow can easily be handled with a single-stage, however you'd likely need a dual stage for a single-car driveway with 60 cm of snow in it.

This of course doesn't take into account the bucket size of the blower. Obviously a 24" will require more passes than a 30", all else being equal.

[djemzine]

In terms of single vs. dual stage, it's not about the size of the area in which you'll be using the blower (ie. a 1 car vs. a 4 car driveway). The more important factor is how much snow you get in that same area.

So, a four-car driveway with 3 cm of snow can easily be handled with a single-stage, however you'd likely need a dual stage for a single-car driveway with 60 cm of snow in it.

This of course doesn't take into account the bucket size of the blower. Obviously a 24" will require more passes than a 30", all else being equal.

Hmm, the area I live in its really iffy when it comes to the amount of snow. Live in the Richmond Hill, ON location. Not sure if you know but I know the fellow GTA-ers would know hopefully heh. Don't want to end up with a single stage and have to experience huge snowfall for the winter season. At most we got in the past 2 winters it was around 40-45cm of snow with winter storms. Otherwise if small we shovel but only if its big then we would use a snow blower. We got a contractor to come and plow the driveway when I was in university, so this time it'll be my parents and I doing the job.

[pacman]

I am actually in the same situation comparing these 2 models. Any experts can share their views on these: features/functionality/price/support and warranty issues?

I was just at Sears looking at this unit last night. It's hard to justify the $839 price of the Toro when this model is basically $300 cheaper, and has all the same features, as well as a 205cc B&S engine. I personally think the Toros are a bit overpriced for what you get, but that's usually the case with the bigger brands.

I've basically narrowed it down to this Craftsman. If I'm going to spend $840 on a single stage, I would rather buy the Honda HS520 for $840 (after PDI and Freight), even though it doesn't have electric start or the handle operated chute control.

[CodF4ther]

So from what I've read the best value in the $500-$800 category is the Snow-Tek 24 inch at Home Depot.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

Is there any reason not to go with this machine? The reviews all seem good but I still hear people talking about buying single-stage machines for the same price or even higher. I feel like I'm missing something :(

[Gutty96]

So from what I've read the best value in the $500-$800 category is the Snow-Tek 24 inch at Home Depot.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

Is there any reason not to go with this machine? The reviews all seem good but I still hear people talking about buying single-stage machines for the same price or even higher. I feel like I'm missing something :(

I am going into my 3rd winter with this machine. Going to do an oil change, and maybe change the plug soon before it gets too cold to make sure all is running well. Made the mistake of waiting until I actually needed it before I tried to start it for the first time last year. Never again, LOL.

Been a great unit, for about as cheap as you will find a blower that size. What you lose vs. the real Ariens, and other more expensive models. Tires are smaller, no electric start (the wires are there just no starter), plastic shoot, and that is about it. I have no regrets saving the money and getting this one.

Go for it.

[tutchio]

This baby on the homedepot.ca

Ariens 342cc Deluxe 30" Platinum Snow Thrower
Model: 921018
Internet/Cat #: 979758
Store SKU #: 1000658948

is at 1895$ + tax

Now homedepot has a policy of a 10% if you find somewhere else cheaper

I was searching around for a better price because i really wanted this beast
I found it at 1839$ at http://www.jeanguglia.com/ ( but in store )

Now the problem I had with the Platinum Is that It could only be sold online and not in store. I tried going to the store and have a special order but knowing they would need to sell it to me 1655$ they denied to even try to get it into the store so they told me to call the homedepot.ca and told me to deal with them.

So I call homedepot.ca ofcourse the people on there call center ask me which website so i gave it to them now they check the website(im on hold) they come back on the phone telling me theres no price on the site and that they cannot place an other this is where i explain to them to call in store and ask jean guglia there regular price. They denied telling me they do not do that that there pricematch is only website to website to place an order. Then I ask hom to show me on their website policy where its written it is only website to website. puts me on hold again came back saying that they dont have a price protected policy for the website only.

so he reads me this:

TERMS : This Price Guarantee applies to identical in-stock items at The Home Depot retail location you visit. No special orders (with the exception of Special Order Appliances only) or rain checks. This guarantee does not apply to competitor online prices or offers. The Home Depot reserves the right to verify the price and availability of the product at the local competitor location before honouring this offer. Price confirmation from a competitor must be presented to The Home Depot during the effective dates of the competitor's flyer or within thirty (30) days of any other proof of competitor pricing. This Price Guarantee excludes typographical or other errors, free offers, gifts with purchase, gift cards, gift certificates, rebates, clearance or close-out prices, credit or financing programs, used, damaged, returned, open box or display merchandise, special orders (other than appliances), delivery or assembly services, labour, installation, and products and services furnished by our Installation Services. Discount applied before taxes and environmental stewardship fees or other levies, if applicable. We reserve the right to limit quantities to an amount reasonable for a residential homeowner. This price guarantee cannot be combined with any other offer. Ask an associate in store for details.

So i told him that he just told me he needed to price match website vs website BUT their policy says they dont cover online prices or offer (he puts me on hold to have me talk with a supervisor)

Superviser comes on the phone and told me that their headoffice tells them that they do not have any special policy for the online website and they are aware of that and they must use the website vs website for their online store. He also tells me that the price only applies to identical in-stock items at The Home Depot retail location But the homedepot.ca is a retail location So I told him thaT is not my fault if they advertise a 10% policy on the website but that is not applicable or (well written)

This is where I had a argument I told them that if the product would be in store that they would have applied it and that if there employe calls at that shop i mention above they would know that I could order on phone like i was doing right now and have the machine shipped at my house he keep telling me that they cannot do that.

I hung up. The next day I gave a call to head office. After argumenting she said she would contact homedepot.ca

I came home today with an email

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p295/lethalblink/snowthrower.jpg

Now this deal should be able to be for everyone. If you guys think its hot well maybe it is maybe its not. If i remember last years deal it was 20% But instore with the stock that was left. This model comes directly from the manufacture

If you have any questions yes my story was quite big But they cannot just tell us its website vs website and that is not written anywhere I told them they cant just ******** us like that if there head office does not make a special website clause

goodluck guys

hope this helps a few people till they change the policy

remember they will do anything to deny it.

[Bordak]

I ordered the Honda HS928TCD:

http://powerequipment.honda.ca/assets/Models/9999/hs900/hs928tcd_r_232______red_front.png?Crop=auto&Width=365&Height=365

Not cheap, but I have to say, I wasn't exactly comforted the by quality of this year's line-up from Sears. My brother and I looked around quite a bit, and I just wasn't completely happy with any of the other offerings. Being in Newfoundland, I need something with major throwing power, and I'm sure the tracks won't go astray either (although this wasn't on my list of 'must-haves').

At $300 off, they just don't get any cheaper, which is kind of brutal actually!

My father has last years version, and it's been a beast. A friend brings up a load of from the US in the fall, and sold them for ~3 grand CAD each I believe.

[hempopotamus]

I am going into my 3rd winter with this machine. Can you tell me where you are located so I can gauge what kind of snowfall you are used to. Thanks

[Ohboiya]

In terms of single vs. dual stage, it's not about the size of the area in which you'll be using the blower (ie. a 1 car vs. a 4 car driveway). The more important factor is how much snow you get in that same area.

So, a four-car driveway with 3 cm of snow can easily be handled with a single-stage, however you'd likely need a dual stage for a single-car driveway with 60 cm of snow in it.

This of course doesn't take into account the bucket size of the blower. Obviously a 24" will require more passes than a 30", all else being equal.

hmmm ... i'm in mississauga which is a suburb of toronto ... how would the single stage do with a foot high snow fall? thanks!

[NotMoneyGuy]

If you are brand new to snow thrower shopping, I suggest you look at Honda, Ariens and Toro and go elsewhere with caution, though Husqvarna and Yamaha are in there too for sure. Check out these Ariens videos here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3uubT8q-cY&feature=BFa&list=PLD86A1FC30DC408D7&lf=autoplay

My Deluxe 28 looks improved...you guys can't go wrong with Orange.

[iggsplode]

If you are brand new to snow thrower shopping, I suggest you look at Honda, Ariens and Toro and go elsewhere with caution, though Husqvarna and Yamaha are in there too for sure. Check out these Ariens videos here: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q3uubT8q-cY&feature=BFa&list=PLD86A1FC30DC408D7&lf=autoplay

My Deluxe 28 looks improved...you guys can't go wrong with Orange.

+1

i scored my ariens deluxe 28 the same time that notmoneyguy did and it's a pretty awesome machine.. might not have all the gimmicky gadgets some other lesser brands have, but it does the job, and does it extremly well.

i put alot of time into research when i bought mine and ariens/toro/honda were the only three brands i was buying.

[gwan]

first snowblower
needs some tips

is this too much? we have a double asphalt driveway and on a dead end
neighbours say that the city will push all the snow in front of our driveway (because it's the end of the road)...

http://catalog.sears.ca/wcsstore/MasterCatalog/images/catalog/Product_271/std_lang_all/06/_p/671_52106_P.jpg
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TG599

on sale at sears for 999, saving of $500 until oct 1

[Gutty96]

Can you tell me where you are located so I can gauge what kind of snowfall you are used to. Thanks

Cobourg Ontario.

We get enough that I don't want to shovel it. This may be more then I need, but I am happy with it.

[carmv4]

I'm getting my first home in November. The driveway is approximately 100 ft. long, one car wide. I definitely want a gas snowblower. The house is in Hamilton on the mountain. I recall heavy snowfall twice last year. Should I be looking into single stage or dual stage? What should I expect to spend for a decent machine? I don't need anything top of the line, just something reliable. Sorry for all the snowblower noob questions.

[mt42]

first snowblower
needs some tips

is this too much? we have a double asphalt driveway and on a dead end
neighbours say that the city will push all the snow in front of our driveway (because it's the end of the road)...

http://catalog.sears.ca/wcsstore/MasterCatalog/images/catalog/Product_271/std_lang_all/06/_p/671_52106_P.jpg
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TG599

on sale at sears for 999, saving of $500 until oct 1

We were looking at that model as well but the next one up seemed to be a better choice for the extra $100 ($1099 on sale until Oct 2nd, regular $1599) - Mostly because it's a B&S engine, metal chute, etc...
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-305cc-dual-stage-snowblower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696101

With that said, we also saw that the Craftsman Pro model will be on sale again this weekend for $1299 (regular $1699)...
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-professional8482-27-305cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696102

Does anyone have any experience with either of these models? Is it worth going up to the Pro model or are there better options in this price range (looking to spend around 1000-1200 - 8 car driveway in the country outside of Guelph so need something reliable)...

Thanks.

[Shane1]

I am looking for the best 24" Snow thrower. Are Briggs and Stratton engines the best?
Can someone tell me which one would you recommend? Sears, Poulan, Airens, Canadiana, etc.
I am not living in the snow belt. Just normal snow fall.
Do not want to spend over $1000.00 including taxes.
I know this is a difficult question to answer I just need your opinion on a solid reliable gas powered 24" snow thrower.
Someone must have a list of top picks?

Thanks

[benyl]

The Snow Joe MAX at Costco.ca (http://tinyurl.com/6ylo8gr) is BACK for 2011! Last year's batch sold out quickly. Going for $199 (free shipping). I just picked one up and looking forward to using it.

http://content.costco.ca/Images/Content/Product/285211c.jpg



Very tempted to order this. I am in Calgary. Wondering if this is good enough for the snow we get. I really don't want to deal with the maintenance of a Gas powered thrower.

[NotMoneyGuy]

Shane1,

If you can somehow wait for or PM 20% off on HD's $1129 web price you'd be at 1129*.8*1.13=$1020.62 for this little 24" beast complete with remote deflector angle control, halogen light, and 14" auger & 14" impeller.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st24le-deluxe-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width/954281

http://www.ariens.com/products_snow/s_deluxe_group/s_deluxe_24/Pages/default.aspx

[djemzine]

I have a noob question, with an electric snow blower, is it safe that the power cord is in the snow, etc?

Thanks

[MTL-TechY]

I have a noob question, with an electric snow blower, is it safe that the power cord is in the snow, etc?

Thanks

ITS INSULATED, and make sure u use an insulated extension cable for outdoors and you should be fine

[djemzine]

ITS INSULATED, and make sure u use an insulated extension cable for outdoors and you should be fine

Thanks for the tip. Also, does electric snow blowers have more power than gas? I know they're easier to maintain and such.

[MTL-TechY]

Thanks for the tip. Also, does electric snow blowers have more power than gas? I know they're easier to maintain and such.

i would have to say that gas snowblowers will def have more power than electric, especially in harsh climates with lots of snow, but if you don't have too much snowfall, or a small space than i guess it would be fine, i would still go with gas vs. electric. Especially with snowfalls in QC OR ON, the only major things is changing ur spark plug and oil, pretty easy to do DIY, and the snowblower should last you decades

[pacman]

Very tempted to order this. I am in Calgary. Wondering if this is good enough for the snow we get. I really don't want to deal with the maintenance of a Gas powered thrower.

I used an electric blower in Calgary last year. It was the Toro Powercurve 1800. It worked fairly well, but dealing with the cord was a big hassle. It would be stiff, and easy to step on and slip on it.

I'm getting a really small Toro 87cc gas powered version for this year. The price is not much more than the electric model (for the 418ZR) and it should work just as well at snow removal with less hassle.

[benyl]

I used an electric blower in Calgary last year. It was the Toro Powercurve 1800. It worked fairly well, but dealing with the cord was a big hassle. It would be stiff, and easy to step on and slip on it.

I'm getting a really small Toro 87cc gas powered version for this year. The price is not much more than the electric model (for the 418ZR) and it should work just as well at snow removal with less hassle.

I didn't think of that part. Maybe I will cancel my order as I did order it this aft.

[Samsonites]

This baby on the homedepot.ca

Ariens 342cc Deluxe 30" Platinum Snow Thrower
Model: 921018
Internet/Cat #: 979758
Store SKU #: 1000658948

is at 1895$ + tax

Now homedepot has a policy of a 10% if you find somewhere else cheaper

I was searching around for a better price because i really wanted this beast
I found it at 1839$ at http://www.jeanguglia.com/ ( but in store )

Now the problem I had with the Platinum Is that It could only be sold online and not in store. I tried going to the store and have a special order but knowing they would need to sell it to me 1655$ they denied to even try to get it into the store so they told me to call the homedepot.ca and told me to deal with them.

So I call homedepot.ca ofcourse the people on there call center ask me which website so i gave it to them now they check the website(im on hold) they come back on the phone telling me theres no price on the site and that they cannot place an other this is where i explain to them to call in store and ask jean guglia there regular price. They denied telling me they do not do that that there pricematch is only website to website to place an order. Then I ask hom to show me on their website policy where its written it is only website to website. puts me on hold again came back saying that they dont have a price protected policy for the website only.

so he reads me this:

TERMS : This Price Guarantee applies to identical in-stock items at The Home Depot retail location you visit. No special orders (with the exception of Special Order Appliances only) or rain checks. This guarantee does not apply to competitor online prices or offers. The Home Depot reserves the right to verify the price and availability of the product at the local competitor location before honouring this offer. Price confirmation from a competitor must be presented to The Home Depot during the effective dates of the competitor's flyer or within thirty (30) days of any other proof of competitor pricing. This Price Guarantee excludes typographical or other errors, free offers, gifts with purchase, gift cards, gift certificates, rebates, clearance or close-out prices, credit or financing programs, used, damaged, returned, open box or display merchandise, special orders (other than appliances), delivery or assembly services, labour, installation, and products and services furnished by our Installation Services. Discount applied before taxes and environmental stewardship fees or other levies, if applicable. We reserve the right to limit quantities to an amount reasonable for a residential homeowner. This price guarantee cannot be combined with any other offer. Ask an associate in store for details.

So i told him that he just told me he needed to price match website vs website BUT their policy says they dont cover online prices or offer (he puts me on hold to have me talk with a supervisor)

Superviser comes on the phone and told me that their headoffice tells them that they do not have any special policy for the online website and they are aware of that and they must use the website vs website for their online store. He also tells me that the price only applies to identical in-stock items at The Home Depot retail location But the homedepot.ca is a retail location So I told him thaT is not my fault if they advertise a 10% policy on the website but that is not applicable or (well written)

This is where I had a argument I told them that if the product would be in store that they would have applied it and that if there employe calls at that shop i mention above they would know that I could order on phone like i was doing right now and have the machine shipped at my house he keep telling me that they cannot do that.

I hung up. The next day I gave a call to head office. After argumenting she said she would contact homedepot.ca

I came home today with an email

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p295/lethalblink/snowthrower.jpg

Now this deal should be able to be for everyone. If you guys think its hot well maybe it is maybe its not. If i remember last years deal it was 20% But instore with the stock that was left. This model comes directly from the manufacture

If you have any questions yes my story was quite big But they cannot just tell us its website vs website and that is not written anywhere I told them they cant just ******** us like that if there head office does not make a special website clause

goodluck guys

hope this helps a few people till they change the policy

remember they will do anything to deny it.

What's the number to the head office?

[djemzine]

i would have to say that gas snowblowers will def have more power than electric, especially in harsh climates with lots of snow, but if you don't have too much snowfall, or a small space than i guess it would be fine, i would still go with gas vs. electric. Especially with snowfalls in QC OR ON, the only major things is changing ur spark plug and oil, pretty easy to do DIY, and the snowblower should last you decades

Gotcha!

[Aceace]

Any affordable options for something similar to this...

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-all-season-power-brush-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/953978

I like my sidewalk bare, right down to the concrete. I'm not sure a snow thrower/blower is for me?

[wheelz]

Poulon Pro PR521 at Walmart for $198. Walmart off the Queensway had s bunch to them.

[djemzine]

Poulon Pro PR521 at Walmart for $198. Walmart off the Queensway had s bunch to them.

Do you think its suitable for York Region snow falls, especially that of Richmond Hill?

[Anatomy]

Poulon Pro PR521 at Walmart for $198. Walmart off the Queensway had s bunch to them.

Any time I'm near a Walmart in Edmonton I check for these ones... nothing so far. The best I can find is a disposable single stage for $400 but I'd rather spend 2x as much for a good one. That said, if I can find one of these $200 ones I might buy a couple!

[wheelz]

Do you think its suitable for York Region snow falls, especially that of Richmond Hill?

I really don't know till I try it. But for $200 its worth a shot. I'm in York Region as well and we don't get that much snow anyways.

[yyz2hkg]

Sears is having a 3 day sale from Friday, Sep 30th to Oct 2. Craftsman 24" Dual Stage Snowblower.

LCT 291cc Engine
14.5lb torque
and bonus lights and handwarmers

$799.99

SKU 52062

or


Craftsman 24" Dual Stage Snowblower with EZ Steer Powered Steering

208cc engine with lights and handwarmers

$799.99

SKU 521002

[NotMoneyGuy]

I really don't know till I try it. But for $200 its worth a shot. I'm in York Region as well and we don't get that much snow anyways.

Don't forget it is not just the nice fresh stuff that falls, it is also the sun-melted and re-frozen stuff when you come home from work and also what the snowplow brings you sometimes....

I am also in York Region and have both a single stage Poulan Pro PR621ES and a two stage Ariens Deluxe 28. The Ariens is for when you really need a snow thrower, the days when the single stage suffices are really days that the shovel could have done the job, but it always fun to use machines instead.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/snowblower-thrower-deal-watch-thread-2010-11-a-925873/78/#post12407330

[wheelz]

Don't forget it is not just the nice fresh stuff that falls, it is also the sun-melted and re-frozen stuff when you come home from work and also what the snowplow brings you sometimes....

I am also in York Region and have both a single stage Poulan Pro PR621ES and a two stage Ariens Deluxe 28. The Ariens is for when you really need a snow thrower, the days when the single stage suffices are really days that the shovel could have done the job, but it always fun to use machines instead.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/snowblower-thrower-deal-watch-thread-2010-11-a-925873/78/#post12407330

Which one would you say you use more?

[djemzine]

Sears is having a 3 day sale from Friday, Sep 30th to Oct 2. Craftsman 24" Dual Stage Snowblower.

LCT 291cc Engine
14.5lb torque
and bonus lights and handwarmers

$799.99

SKU 52062

or


Craftsman 24" Dual Stage Snowblower with EZ Steer Powered Steering

208cc engine with lights and handwarmers

$799.99

SKU 521002

Online or in store?

[NotMoneyGuy]

Which one would you say you use more?

I'd say around 60 - 40 in favour of the bigger Ariens. The only reason I got the 208 cm3 Poulan was because of the deal last boxing day with the mis-labeled boxes thing at Wal-mart, my price on the PR621ES worked out to less than $237 + HST after all was said and done.

I'd give up the small one in a heartbeat if I could only keep one machine. It is a "nice to have", not a must, and when the amount of snow calls for the single stage, you could probably get away with do nothing or shovel it. BUT when it really SNOWS, you wish you had a serious two stage. IMO it is the whole purpose of these machines, to save you from the heavy dumps, and to make this winter chore fun. The small machine is just an excuse to use outdoor power equipment. Having said that, the $200 136 cm3 is a nice scoop, I'd probably grab one too.

[shingor6]

I'd say around 60 - 40 in favour of the bigger Ariens. The only reason I got the 208 cm3 Poulan was because of the deal last boxing day with the mis-labeled boxes thing at Wal-mart, my price on the PR621ES worked out to less than $237 + HST after all was said and done.

I'd give up the small one in a heartbeat if I could only keep one machine. It is a "nice to have", not a must, and when the amount of snow calls for the single stage, you could probably get away with do nothing or shovel it. BUT when it really SNOWS, you wish you had a serious two stage. IMO it is the whole purpose of these machines, to save you from the heavy dumps, and to make this winter chore fun. The small machine is just an excuse to use outdoor power equipment. Having said that, the $200 136 cm3 is a nice scoop, I'd probably grab one too.

I also have a ariens 28" Deluxe and I live in Quebec

Like NotMoneyGuy said, the problem is really when you do not remove the snow as soon as it snow.

For example : It start to snow when you sleep, then the snow turn in to rain in the morning, you have 2 feet of wet snow in the driveway and almost 4 feet at the end of the driveway because of the city snowplow.

My Ariens 28" deluxe was really working hard to remove the snow and it didn't throw at more than 7-8 feet with all that weight.

I don't want to imagine what a single stage would do in that situation.

The moment when you REALLY want a snowblower is when the snow is thick and heavy, if you can only use your blower when you have light snow, what's the point?

I say if you have the money, buy a quality 2 stage or even better, a yamaha or honda

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_UF7KhsW5tos/StumpSeGDWI/AAAAAAAAAAo/UbCDv_LzlaE/s320/yamaha+snowblowers.jpg
http://i.treehugger.com/files/honda-hybrid-snowblower-01.jpg

With that kind of machine, it will go through anything, snow, dogs, kids, bicycle.... and all your neighbour will admit defeat when they see you throw snow 100 feet away :)

[tutchio]

What's the number to the head office?



they transfered me over the phone.

Was a pretty hard to get them to do so.

But hey they have a policy and dont want to apply it must go hard on them :) Now ive got a a nice machine at 16% cheaper in total.

I could of also get the track. But alot of people told me its more problemish

[yyz2hkg]

Online or in store?

Both.

[djemzine]

Both.

Thanks.

[Sloan55]

It is time for me to make the purchase of a single stage snowblower, I have been waiting for the HD to have sale, but noticed that Sears has the following machine on

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932#BVReviews

Any thoughts on the reliability of this machine? I have about $70 in Sears gift cards that I can use towards it which is why I am considering it, is it comparable to the following:

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621qze-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/960185

Any insight would be appreciated.

I took the plunge and bought the Cradtsman 208cc single stage, it was $150 off the regular price. One thing I wanted to find out from those that have first hand knowledge, this machine has the hard plastic chute, anyone had any problems with this vs. the metal chutes?

[ledanqc]

Roller skid instead of plastic skid in case anyone have interest

https://sites.google.com/site/rollerskid/

http://www.rcpw.com/ariens-skids/1250.html

[se@n]

I took the plunge and bought the Cradtsman 208cc single stage, it was $150. One thing I wanted to find out from those that have first hand knowledge, this machine has the hard plastic chute, anyone had any problems with this vs. the metal chutes?

Did you buy Crasftsman 208 CC in-store? Online price is 549 CAD or am I missing something?

[Sloan55]

Did you buy Crasftsman 208 CC in-store? Online price is 549 CAD or am I missing something?

Sorry, I meant to say it was $150 off regular price, I paid $549. They had a floor model in store to look at, but my machine will come in in about 1 week time.

[BoombasticSloth]

Roller skid instead of plastic skid in case anyone have interest

https://sites.google.com/site/rollerskid/

http://www.rcpw.com/ariens-skids/1250.html

Excellent post ledanqc.

[Dave_H]

Looking at these two snow blowers from HD:

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-28-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918482#BVRRWidgetID


http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-max-726-oe-2-stage-snow-blower-26-inch/960184

My driveway is fairly long >150ft... which would you want and why?

TIA

[ledanqc]

Looking at these two snow blowers from HD:

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-28-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918482#BVRRWidgetID


http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-max-726-oe-2-stage-snow-blower-26-inch/960184

My driveway is fairly long >150ft... which would you want and why?

TIA

Poulan pro 250cc 27'' at Costco...899 better motor and hydrostatic transmission. Possibility of a rebate around beginning of december

[window shopper]

HERE ARE SOME "NEW LOWER" PRICE SNOWBLOWERS AT HOME DEPOT:

http://homerenomontreal.com/images/home_depot_banner-2.jpg

http://www.homedepot.ca/catalog/snow-throwers/172305/24/0/P_BuyCount%7C1



http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/Sno-Tek_20_3.jpg
SnoTekSnoTek 20, 120v Electric Start, Single Speed, 20 Inch Clearing Width

$549.00http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/global/icons/en/lower-price.gif

http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/Toro_pwrclr_621QZE_38459_l_1k_3.jpg
ToroPower Clear 621QZE Single Stage Snow Blower - 21 Inch

$799.00http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/global/icons/en/lower-price.gif

http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/Compact24_3.jpg
AriensAriens ST24LE Compact, 120v Electric Start, 24 Inch Clearing Width

$999.00http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/global/icons/en/lower-price.gif

http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/31AM53TR596_3.jpg
Cub CadetCub Cadet 24 Inch Snow Thrower

$999.00http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/global/icons/en/lower-price.gif

[Dave_H]

Poulan pro 250cc 27'' at Costco...899 better motor and hydrostatic transmission. Possibility of a rebate around beginning of december

Is that in store? The website shows $1199.99

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10353805&search=snow&Sp=S&Mo=31&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-CA&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=snow&Ntt=snow&No=2&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

[Ohboiya]

What's the best unit under $500? I've got a smaller driveway that holds two cars comfortably and I live in Lorne Park / Mississauga.

[NotMoneyGuy]

With regards to the HD "lower price" of $999 on the 24" Ariens Compact 24, IMO the extra $130 at $1129 for the 24" Deluxe 24 blows away the Compact; larger engine, larger auger, larger impeller....

[jaibalaji]

Is that in store? The website shows $1199.99

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10353805&search=snow&Sp=S&Mo=31&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-CA&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=snow&Ntt=snow&No=2&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

Its 899 in store.

[jaibalaji]

Any suggestions/ideas for Poulan Pro 24" - 2 stage - 208 cc from Costco @ 699 in store ( website 899).

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10329128&search=snow+blower&Mo=4&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-CA&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Sp=S&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=snow+blower&Ntt=snow+blower&No=2&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

[NotMoneyGuy]

Any suggestions/ideas for Poulan Pro 24" - 2 stage - 208 cc from Costco @ 699 in store ( website 899).

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10329128&search=snow+blower&Mo=4&cm_re=1_en-_-Top_Left_Nav-_-Top_search&lang=en-CA&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Sp=S&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=snow+blower&Ntt=snow+blower&No=2&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

That is the one in post #1 and #5 of this thread's first page and has been priced at the same $699.99 since Aug 09, 2011. You are not saving $200 really vs the high web price. Consider the lack of light, lack of remote chute deflector angle control, only 208 cm3 motor, small impeller and small auger and weigh that against the Ariens Deluxe 24's (http://www.ariens.com/products_snow/s_deluxe_group/s_deluxe_24/Pages/default.aspx) features/specs at $1129, a lot more $. BUT, if you get eight years out of your Ariens, that is a small $54 or so annual premium to pay for a IMO better machine/experience. Sooner or later someone will hopefully have a 20% off sale and getting that off the $1129, you'd be at a $204 premium above the $699.99 one.

There is "no replacement for displacement" some say, and the chute angle remote control missing may drive you nuts if you have to operate in tight quarters where aim is important.

[Anatomy]

What's the best unit under $500? I've got a smaller driveway that holds two cars comfortably and I live in Lorne Park / Mississauga.

Saw a single stage 21" at Walmart for $400. It looked exactly like a Sears Craftsman one I bought a few years ago... It served me well for 3 winters of hard use while I cleared Alberta snow at home and 2 rental properties. There are a number of wear items that are expensive to replace but if you consider that I did effectively 9 years of snow (single house) it's a pretty good deal.

I don't know if it's the best deal under $500 but I suspect it's pretty good for a 4-stroke single stage.

[djemzine]

In the latest WM flyer there are some Murray blowers on sale. Not sure of their original price but I think that's the markdown price.

http://i53.tinypic.com/1zwdnrk.jpg

[brunes]

Anyone have any opinions on this blower? It is $500 off today. AND free delivery.

Am seriously thinking about it...

I did some research and this engine is a PowerMore. The guy who runs the movingsnow.com blog said that there have been little/no reports about this engine being under-powered. I THINK this review here of the 30" model is essentially the same except the 2" width boost... http://mowingsnow.com/category/canadian-snow-blower-reviews/30-in-craftsmanmd-357cc-ez-steer

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TG599

357cc Craftsman OHV engine.
12" auger
6 forward speeds and 2 reverse speeds.
Electric starter for quick starts. No need to pull.
200 degrees chute rotation controlled with a 4-way joystick. Provides a wide range of rotation for more optimum snow dispersal.
16" x 4.8" Xtrac Tires. Tough tread snow tires for maximum traction.
E-Z Steer power steering
Clutch lockdown. Locks in speeds to keep one hand free for snow thrower operation.
Gear drive for improved performance and longer wear.
2 year limited warranty

[rongwon]

Got this at Sears Bramalea City Center


Sears is having a 3 day sale from Friday, Sep 30th to Oct 2. Craftsman 24" Dual Stage Snowblower.

LCT 291cc Engine
14.5lb torque
and bonus lights and handwarmers

$799.99

SKU 52062

or


Craftsman 24" Dual Stage Snowblower with EZ Steer Powered Steering

208cc engine with lights and handwarmers

$799.99

SKU 521002

[rongwon]

It has a 2 yr mfg warranty and the 3 yr extended warranty is $200 + tax. Is it worth getting this?

Thanks

[nino]

Any time I'm near a Walmart in Edmonton I check for these ones... nothing so far. The best I can find is a disposable single stage for $400 but I'd rather spend 2x as much for a good one. That said, if I can find one of these $200 ones I might buy a couple!

Picked one of these up today from Walmart, looks like $199 is regular price.

Some bad reviews on Sears here:
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-21-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000202721-52061?extid=affiliate_comj#BVRRWidgetID

[NotMoneyGuy]

Picked one of these up today, looks like $199 is regular price.

Some bad reviews on Sears here:
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-21-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000202721-52061?extid=affiliate_comj#BVRRWidgetID

Same as Walmart's Poulan Pro PR521.

[pacman]

I called various Walmart stores in Calgary/Edmonton and they claim the Poulan 521 isnt' even in the system. Perhaps it's only available out east?

[nino]

Same as Walmart's Poulan Pro PR521.

Sorry forgot to mention it was from Walmart, but it is the same model re-branded at Sears.

[Pug]

how is it different from Costco's Poulan PRO® 136 cc Gas-powered 21-in. Single-stage Snow Thrower

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10353750&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA|114|3241|22254&N=4010129&Mo=4&pos=1&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22254&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&ec=BCCA-EC22125-Cat3241&topnav=

[nino]

how is it different from Costco's Poulan PRO® 136 cc Gas-powered 21-in. Single-stage Snow Thrower

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10353750&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA|114|3241|22254&N=4010129&Mo=4&pos=1&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22254&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&ec=BCCA-EC22125-Cat3241&topnav=

It is not different, they are the same. This is the exact same one I got from Walmart today.

[blaznazn22]

I will be shoveling my snow the old fashioned way, with my trusty $20 snow shovel. Its good exercise as well, so Im not too bothered by it. Snowblowers should be ok for older folks though.

[nino]

I will be shoveling my snow the old fashioned way, with my trusty $20 snow shovel. Its good exercise as well, so Im not too bothered by it. Snowblowers should be ok for older folks though.

I've been shoveling my whole life, this is the first snowblower I've gotten. The price was just too tempting.

[jimform2k1]

Hello,

If I buy a Walmart or Costco or Home Depot snow blower, how are parts (beater bar, scraper, etc...) and service handled during and after warranty?

Thanks

[pacman]

Hello,

If I buy a Walmart or Costco or Home Depot snow blower, how are parts (beater bar, scraper, etc...) and service handled during and after warranty?

Thanks

Neither of those 3 companies sell the parts. You will have to buy them from a local, smaller dealer that also sells the parts. There are lots of Toro dealers around that stock them. Not sure about the other brands like Poulan, MTD etc.

[macyme]

I called various Walmart stores in Calgary/Edmonton and they claim the Poulan 521 isnt' even in the system. Perhaps it's only available out east?

just an fyi.....i called several stores in mississauga/brampton/bolton and they didn't have them anymore or were unaware of the product. I picked one up last night at the Queensway store in Etobicoke, there were 7 left. No sign about the price just sitting on a skid.......wonder if they're just clearing out their stock from last year or if they'll be getting more in. I know they weren't advertised in their recent flyer with the other snow blowers. For $200 i'll give it a try.

[Slapshot747]

Anyone have any opinions on this blower? It is $500 off today. AND free delivery.

Am seriously thinking about it...

I did some research and this engine is a PowerMore. The guy who runs the movingsnow.com blog said that there have been little/no reports about this engine being under-powered. I THINK this review here of the 30" model is essentially the same except the 2" width boost... http://mowingsnow.com/category/canadian-snow-blower-reviews/30-in-craftsmanmd-357cc-ez-steer

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TG599

357cc Craftsman OHV engine.
12" auger
6 forward speeds and 2 reverse speeds.
Electric starter for quick starts. No need to pull.
200 degrees chute rotation controlled with a 4-way joystick. Provides a wide range of rotation for more optimum snow dispersal.
16" x 4.8" Xtrac Tires. Tough tread snow tires for maximum traction.
E-Z Steer power steering
Clutch lockdown. Locks in speeds to keep one hand free for snow thrower operation.
Gear drive for improved performance and longer wear.
2 year limited warranty


Bought this sunday for $999... Not killing my back this year..Had two close scares with my back last year. I like the power and need the 28in for my wide sidewalks. Its not a briggs engine but the reviews for this engine are not too bad. I have a question for anyone that has this type of blower.. How easy to put together out of the box?..Thanks for any help you can give me... Everyone expect a great winter i just bought a snowblower..lol..

[YHZLSA]

Home Depot in Halifax has these out but engine size is 136cc not the 208cc. Sales guy said there a special buy and the engine is a 136cc engine not the 208cc.

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[hempopotamus]

I opted to get the next model from Sears for 1099 that was also 500 off. It's a 27 with a 305 Briggs engine. I'm looking forward to try g the ez steer feature in these models.




Bought this sunday for $999... Not killing my back this year..Had two close iscares with my back last year. I like the power and need the 28in for my wide sidewalks. Its not a briggs engine but the reviews for this engine are not too bad. I have a question for anyone that has this type of blower.. How easy to put together out of the box?..Thanks for any help you can give me... Everyone expect a great winter i just bought a snowblower..lol..

[pacman]

Bought this sunday for $999... Not killing my back this year..Had two close scares with my back last year. I like the power and need the 28in for my wide sidewalks. Its not a briggs engine but the reviews for this engine are not too bad. I have a question for anyone that has this type of blower.. How easy to put together out of the box?..Thanks for any help you can give me... Everyone expect a great winter i just bought a snowblower..lol..

It's really not worth shovelling once you hurt your back. I hurt my back 5 years ago shovelling....... 3 back surgeries later, and I'm still feeling some lingering pain and nerve damage in my leg.

I'll be buying my snowblower this week.

[lakobebryant]

I have narrowed down to two snow blowers that are in my price range can someone please tell me pros and cons of both and which you would recommend.

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10329128&lang=en-CA
and
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

Also if there are any other snowblowers below $700 before tax please recommend.
Im located at Markham and the snow fall is pretty similar to other GTA places.

[ledanqc]

I have narrowed down to two snow blowers that are in my price range can someone please tell me pros and cons of both and which you would recommend.

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10329128&lang=en-CA
and
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

Also if there are any other snowblowers below $700 before tax please recommend.
Im located at Markham and the snow fall is pretty similar to other GTA places.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/snowblower-thrower-deal-watch-thread-2011-12-a-1068827/12/#post13546943

[wak4]

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/snowblower-thrower-deal-watch-thread-2011-12-a-1068827/12/#post13546943

Any thought on this Poulan Pro 27in 250cc

VS

Ariens 28 Deluxe (Homedepot 921022)

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202222479/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

The only advantage I can see for buying the Poulan Pro is that I would buy it from Costco which is 15 min away from home.

EDIT: Do you know how it works to PM a shop that is 200km away? (http://www.rouleauetfreres.com/index-2.php?item=P12938&t=souffleuse-a-neige-ariens-serie-deluxe-28-st-28-le-921022)

Thx

[rongwon]

The description in the link says it has power steering. Is this the same as ez steer? (I bought this thinking that they are one and the same.:confused:)

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-291cc-24-dual-stage-mid-frame-snow-blower/671-000202721-52062



I opted to get the next model from Sears for 1099 that was also 500 off. It's a 27 with a 305 Briggs engine. I'm looking forward to try g the ez steer feature in these models.

[thrifthunter]

Any thought on this Poulan Pro 27in 250cc

VS

Ariens 28 Deluxe (Homedepot 921022)

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202222479/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

The only advantage I can see for buying the Poulan Pro is that I would buy it from Costco which is 15 min away from home.

EDIT: Do you know how it works to PM a shop that is 200km away? (http://www.rouleauetfreres.com/index-2.php?item=P12938&t=souffleuse-a-neige-ariens-serie-deluxe-28-st-28-le-921022)

Thx

I would go with the ariens out of those two. But in the same price range as the ariens, I would recommend the toro 826oxe. I got one last year and it is excellent. The free wheel steering and joystick chute make it a breeze to use, plus it throws the snow just as far as my neighbours honda 928(we had a throwing distance competition, at half the price of his honda he was impressed! lol).

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-max-826-oxe-snowblower-with-electric-start/918479

Here is a video of one in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q43GCi1kDs&feature=related

[NotMoneyGuy]

Any thought on this Poulan Pro 27in 250cc

VS

Ariens 28 Deluxe (Homedepot 921022)

http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202222479/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

The only advantage I can see for buying the Poulan Pro is that I would buy it from Costco which is 15 min away from home.

EDIT: Do you know how it works to PM a shop that is 200km away? (http://www.rouleauetfreres.com/index-2.php?item=P12938&t=souffleuse-a-neige-ariens-serie-deluxe-28-st-28-le-921022)

Thx

+1 on the Ariens. The one at Rouleau & Brothers is last year's Deluxe 28 in the photo. Make sure you get this year's with the cast iron gear box and revamped dash with integral headlight. Try the PM and get HD to beat it by 10%.

[Samsonites]

+1 on the Ariens. The one at Rouleau & Brothers is last year's Deluxe 28 in the photo. Make sure you get this year's with the cast iron gear box and revamped dash with integral headlight. Try the PM and get HD to beat it by 10%.

NotMoneyGuy,

Do you find the 250CC Deluxe 28 more then enough power to deal with EOD and heavy snow? Debating whether to get this one of pay $200 more for the Deluxe 30 with the 305CC

[NotMoneyGuy]

Do you find the 250CC Deluxe 28 more then enough power to deal with EOD and heavy snow? Debating whether to get this one of pay $200 more for the Deluxe 30 with the 305CC

I'd say enough power - just right, by no means over-kill. If you have the extra $200, go bigger; two hundred bucks over say eight years is a mere $25 per season premium. In the below situation I wonder my the s/s Poulan PR621ES is even taking up space in my garage.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/NotMoneyGuy/EOD1.jpg

[jamdat]

I'd say enough power - just right, by no means over-kill. If you have the extra $200, go bigger; two hundred bucks over say eight years is a mere $25 per season premium. In the below situation I wonder my the s/s Poulan PR621ES is even taking up space in my garage.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/NotMoneyGuy/EOD1.jpg

So you wouldn't use your single stage on this?

[hempopotamus]

It is the same. As far as I understand it all Craftsman models that are 27" and above have the EZ Steer regardless of the engine in them. I didn't pay attention to the 28 that you purchased, I may have opted for that one as well. I was hung up on the B&S engine and the Steel Chute, right or wrong. Hopefully we both have decent machines. I like that yours has hand warmers.


The description in the link says it has power steering. Is this the same as ez steer? (I bought this thinking that they are one and the same.:confused:)

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-291cc-24-dual-stage-mid-frame-snow-blower/671-000202721-52062

[wak4]

I would go with the ariens out of those two. But in the same price range as the ariens, I would recommend the toro 826oxe. I got one last year and it is excellent. The free wheel steering and joystick chute make it a breeze to use, plus it throws the snow just as far as my neighbours honda 928(we had a throwing distance competition, at half the price of his honda he was impressed! lol).

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-max-826-oxe-snowblower-with-electric-start/918479

Here is a video of one in action:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_Q43GCi1kDs&feature=related

I saw the toro but I'm a little concerned about the joystick actually. It is made of plastic so I don't know how it's going to "age". Anyway, I don't really need to change the direction of the chute as if my life depended on it...

Do you guys know if homedepot.COM has any rebates going on the ariens anywhere near November / December?

[rongwon]

It is just 24" and not 28. I picked the smallest blower that can handle ~20" snow. Based on post 159 above and other posts, I checked with a small engines repair guy and he told me that the LCT 291 cc has a good rep and is still being used by Husqavarna etc.. He does not think high of Craftsman's craftsmanship and suggested Honda etc which are out of budget range. I am hoping this compromise will pan out for me in the long term. I do not know if the handwarmers are of any use since we need our gloves anyway.


It is the same. As far as I understand it all Craftsman models that are 27" and above have the EZ Steer regardless of the engine in them. I didn't pay attention to the 28 that you purchased, I may have opted for that one as well. I was hung up on the B&S engine and the Steel Chute, right or wrong. Hopefully we both have decent machines. I like that yours has hand warmers.

[NotMoneyGuy]

So you wouldn't use your single stage on this?

Nope. I think any single stage would have struggled with that heavy mess consisiting of chunks of bashed up old snowbank and slush plowed off the streets. Even the mighty Toro Power Clear 221Q with its two-stroke power.

[dummjock]

Rona has a special on for a White Outdoor 2-phase snow blower for $559.00 after a $40 rebate (i presume this means 2-stage). On top of that, there is a scratch and save event this Saturday for 10-50% off your purchase.

At worst (and most likely), you get 10% off, so that's $503.10 plus tax. Seems like a decent deal.

Here are a few quick specs:

179 cc MTD Powermore 4-cycle OHV engine with overhead valves.
22" clearing width.
3-year warranty.

http://flyers.rona.ca/Flyers/KN1/AC1/neutral/KN1_C1.pdf

[tutchio]

This deal is now DEAD they fixed their online price so they dont get screwed too many times. We were 3 in our family to use this deal. and maybe a few here I imagine?

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st30dle-platinum-120v-electric-start-30-inch-clearing-width/979758


This baby on the homedepot.ca

Ariens 342cc Deluxe 30" Platinum Snow Thrower
Model: 921018
Internet/Cat #: 979758
Store SKU #: 1000658948

is at 1895$ + tax

Now homedepot has a policy of a 10% if you find somewhere else cheaper

I was searching around for a better price because i really wanted this beast
I found it at 1839$ at http://www.jeanguglia.com/ ( but in store )

Now the problem I had with the Platinum Is that It could only be sold online and not in store. I tried going to the store and have a special order but knowing they would need to sell it to me 1655$ they denied to even try to get it into the store so they told me to call the homedepot.ca and told me to deal with them.

So I call homedepot.ca ofcourse the people on there call center ask me which website so i gave it to them now they check the website(im on hold) they come back on the phone telling me theres no price on the site and that they cannot place an other this is where i explain to them to call in store and ask jean guglia there regular price. They denied telling me they do not do that that there pricematch is only website to website to place an order. Then I ask hom to show me on their website policy where its written it is only website to website. puts me on hold again came back saying that they dont have a price protected policy for the website only.

so he reads me this:

TERMS : This Price Guarantee applies to identical in-stock items at The Home Depot retail location you visit. No special orders (with the exception of Special Order Appliances only) or rain checks. This guarantee does not apply to competitor online prices or offers. The Home Depot reserves the right to verify the price and availability of the product at the local competitor location before honouring this offer. Price confirmation from a competitor must be presented to The Home Depot during the effective dates of the competitor's flyer or within thirty (30) days of any other proof of competitor pricing. This Price Guarantee excludes typographical or other errors, free offers, gifts with purchase, gift cards, gift certificates, rebates, clearance or close-out prices, credit or financing programs, used, damaged, returned, open box or display merchandise, special orders (other than appliances), delivery or assembly services, labour, installation, and products and services furnished by our Installation Services. Discount applied before taxes and environmental stewardship fees or other levies, if applicable. We reserve the right to limit quantities to an amount reasonable for a residential homeowner. This price guarantee cannot be combined with any other offer. Ask an associate in store for details.

So i told him that he just told me he needed to price match website vs website BUT their policy says they dont cover online prices or offer (he puts me on hold to have me talk with a supervisor)

Superviser comes on the phone and told me that their headoffice tells them that they do not have any special policy for the online website and they are aware of that and they must use the website vs website for their online store. He also tells me that the price only applies to identical in-stock items at The Home Depot retail location But the homedepot.ca is a retail location So I told him thaT is not my fault if they advertise a 10% policy on the website but that is not applicable or (well written)

This is where I had a argument I told them that if the product would be in store that they would have applied it and that if there employe calls at that shop i mention above they would know that I could order on phone like i was doing right now and have the machine shipped at my house he keep telling me that they cannot do that.

I hung up. The next day I gave a call to head office. After argumenting she said she would contact homedepot.ca

I came home today with an email

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p295/lethalblink/snowthrower.jpg

Now this deal should be able to be for everyone. If you guys think its hot well maybe it is maybe its not. If i remember last years deal it was 20% But instore with the stock that was left. This model comes directly from the manufacture

If you have any questions yes my story was quite big But they cannot just tell us its website vs website and that is not written anywhere I told them they cant just ******** us like that if there head office does not make a special website clause

goodluck guys

hope this helps a few people till they change the policy

remember they will do anything to deny it.

[jcjchan]

I'd say enough power - just right, by no means over-kill. If you have the extra $200, go bigger; two hundred bucks over say eight years is a mere $25 per season premium. In the below situation I wonder my the s/s Poulan PR621ES is even taking up space in my garage.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/NotMoneyGuy/EOD1.jpg

Hi, Im a long time reader and im trying to search for the right snowblower for my dad. We have the same issue as above in the picture..cept we manually shovel it. My question here is, if a single stage will not suffice to plow through this mess..would a 2-stage be the solution?

Thanks!

[DaLurker]

Hi, Im a long time reader and im trying to search for the right snowblower for my dad. We have the same issue as above in the picture..cept we manually shovel it. My question here is, if a single stage will not suffice to plow through this mess..would a 2-stage be the solution?

Thanks!

I'm hoping the single stage can handle it if I only use up half the width of the blower.

Shall see this season, if it doesn't work out it will be time to upgrade next year.

[nelly29]

Anyone have any opinions on this blower? It is $500 off today. AND free delivery.

Am seriously thinking about it...

I did some research and this engine is a PowerMore. The guy who runs the movingsnow.com blog said that there have been little/no reports about this engine being under-powered. I THINK this review here of the 30" model is essentially the same except the 2" width boost... http://mowingsnow.com/category/canadian-snow-blower-reviews/30-in-craftsmanmd-357cc-ez-steer

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TG599

357cc Craftsman OHV engine.
12" auger
6 forward speeds and 2 reverse speeds.
Electric starter for quick starts. No need to pull.
200 degrees chute rotation controlled with a 4-way joystick. Provides a wide range of rotation for more optimum snow dispersal.
16" x 4.8" Xtrac Tires. Tough tread snow tires for maximum traction.
E-Z Steer power steering
Clutch lockdown. Locks in speeds to keep one hand free for snow thrower operation.
Gear drive for improved performance and longer wear.
2 year limited warranty


Got the same one last week...For the engine size (357cc) and features I could not find another one in the under 1k price range....I checked with my small engine repair guy and the Powermore engine in this bad boy gets good reviews and has lots of parts/support. Bring on the snow!!!!!!!!!


Info on the engine:

http://movingsnow.com/powermore-craftsman-troy-bilt-yardman-cub-cadet-ohv-winterized-engines/1920/

[wak4]

This deal is now DEAD they fixed their online price so they dont get screwed too many times. We were 3 in our family to use this deal. and maybe a few here I imagine?

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st30dle-platinum-120v-electric-start-30-inch-clearing-width/979758

Just so everyone knows, I called the same store asking for the Ariens 28LE DELUXE (921022) and they are selling it for 1194$ so it would be a good price match opportunity... now I just need to tell the wife :confused:

[chillz911]

I have a 60 foot long two car driveway. Last year i hired a company to come do and plow. They would only come if it snowed 7cm or more. They came three times so it was well worth my money not purchasing a machine. Since i dont want to spend alot of money, I am considering purhchasing a single stage snow blower any recommendations or deals you can suggest to me.

Do they work well?

Thank You

[jamdat]

I'm hoping the single stage can handle it if I only use up half the width of the blower.

Shall see this season, if it doesn't work out it will be time to upgrade next year.Yeah that's what I'm hoping for as well. I have a 2x2 car driveway (so four total) and I picked up an old two stage snowblower last year. Cleaned off all the rust, but something is funky with the carb (I think) since the engine surges. Either way, it seems too big for my driveway. Plus whenever there's a 5cm snowfall, it never gets used - I shovel afterwards anyway, so I just end up doing the whole thing.
The point of having a snowblower is to use it, so I am considering getting a single stage and if I get the snowplow or heavy EOD stuff, I'll just go slowly and use half the width.

[tutchio]

Just so everyone knows, I called the same store asking for the Ariens 28LE DELUXE (921022) and they are selling it for 1194$ so it would be a good price match opportunity... now I just need to tell the wife :confused:

You called Jean Guglia and they have the deluxe for 1194$? This is great this would be a even better deal then i got on my platium

let us know!!

[pagal]

Just stopped by Lowes and they have Canadiana Brand, John Deere and on other brand. The Canadiana all have B&S engines and seem quite well built for $749. This seems to be the best deal for the B&S Engine. Anyone care to comments on this brand

[thrifthunter]

I saw the toro but I'm a little concerned about the joystick actually. It is made of plastic so I don't know how it's going to "age". Anyway, I don't really need to change the direction of the chute as if my life depended on it...

Do you guys know if homedepot.COM has any rebates going on the ariens anywhere near November / December?

Plastic will hold up better than metal(rust). This plastic can really take a beating. How many snowmobiles do you see with metal skis?

[NotMoneyGuy]

If you are all set to buy something from HD, you should be able to get at least 10% off by mentioning or bringing proof of Rona's Sat Oct 08 scratch and save event (10% - 50%). If they let you leave Rona with your scratched card with a higher than 10% value, you may even be able to swing that higher discount at HD. Or if you want to buy a machine at Rona, Saturday may be the day for it.

[Tha DraGun]

Anyone have any comments on this one? Seems small, but not too small. Handle folds down so it should fit good in the garage. Looks like a good price to me.



Rona has a special on for a White Outdoor 2-phase snow blower for $559.00 after a $40 rebate (i presume this means 2-stage). On top of that, there is a scratch and save event this Saturday for 10-50% off your purchase.

At worst (and most likely), you get 10% off, so that's $503.10 plus tax. Seems like a decent deal.

Here are a few quick specs:

179 cc MTD Powermore 4-cycle OHV engine with overhead valves.
22" clearing width.
3-year warranty.

http://flyers.rona.ca/Flyers/KN1/AC1/neutral/KN1_C1.pdf

[wak4]

You called Jean Guglia and they have the deluxe for 1194$? This is great this would be a even better deal then i got on my platium

let us know!!

I called :
LEFEBVRE EQUIPEMENT PLUS INC
10 RANG DE LA MONTAGNE
MONT ST-GREGOIRE, PQ J0J1K0
phone: 450-357-9364

W. VACHON & FILS INC.
1653 GLADSTONE
MONTREAL, PQ H4E1C6
phone: 514-766-3875

JEAN GUGLIA & FILS
10344 ST-LAURENT
MONTREAL, PQ H3L2P2
phone: 514-387-0871

They have the Ariens 28 Deluxe (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345) in stock for 1194$ and HomeDepot.ca tells me this morning that St-Constant has 4 in stock, Greenfield Park has 1 and Pointe-Claire has 2... considering that you got this deal 3 times, why wouldn't it work?

Still debating if it's worth it since I already have a Toro in working condition...

[tutchio]

I did not take the deluxe but the platinium and it wasent in store it was online onlt for the platinium so i think since yours is instore it should be even easier

[tutchio]

Also if you buy the deluxe from homedepot you should be paying 1075$ causr of their price guarante

[chillz911]

I have a 60 foot long two car driveway. Last year i hired a company to come do and plow. They would only come if it snowed 7cm or more. They came three times so it was well worth my money not purchasing a machine. Since i dont want to spend alot of money, I am considering purhchasing a single stage snow blower any recommendations or deals you can suggest to me.

Do they work well?

Thank You


any comments?

[jimform2k1]

Is it me or are ads just quoting cc numbers on new machines and not horsepower?

208cc = 5hp???

[dummjock]

Anyone have any comments on this one? Seems small, but not too small. Handle folds down so it should fit good in the garage. Looks like a good price to me.

Another option is this 20" Snowtek machine from Home Depot. If you use the same 10%-50% off coupon from Rona, your actually about $10 cheaper. Plus you get an Ariens product. Seems like a steal at $494 +tax.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480

[polypep]

Anyone have any comments on this one? Seems small, but not too small. Handle folds down so it should fit good in the garage. Looks like a good price to me.

It looks like a single speed machine which depending on your physical strength may be a challenge and annoying because of the size and weight of the machine. When you are looking at 2 stage blowers, it is expected that you need some serious power to chop away ice and snow. Only for that reason I would go with something that has a true variable transmission (Forward & Reverse speeds) as you need to adjust to the volume of ice and snow on your property. The more the snow, the slower you need to move. Electric start is also a nice feature to have for these big machines (don't see that for this one in the ad).

I live out west so we do not get that much snow and usually it is dry so I got myself a Toro single stage. If I was living in central or eastern Canada or the maritimes, I would have seriously considered a reputable brand's 2 stage with variable speed. Some entry level machines made by good brands use Chinese engines, I would stay clear of those. At this time Briggs & Stratton is the trusted engine manufacturer for cost price machines. Power steering is also a nice feature but not necessary as you will have to pay for this extra feature.

Remember you are spending over $500 on a machine so choose wisely and not just go with the lowest price.

[polypep]

Another option is this 20" Snowtek machine from Home Depot. If you use the same 10%-50% off coupon from Rona, your actually about $10 cheaper. Plus you get an Ariens product. Seems like a steal at $494 +tax.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480

Not all HD will honour the 10% off Rona coupons. However it is a YMMV.

My local HD does not honor Rona 10 - 50% coupon campaigns. I have tried on various occasions with different CSRs and always got the same reply.

[DrSavant]

Another option is this 20" Snowtek machine from Home Depot. If you use the same 10%-50% off coupon from Rona, your actually about $10 cheaper. Plus you get an Ariens product. Seems like a steal at $494 +tax.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480



So are you suggesting to buy something small in Rona, get a coupon and then try your luck with that coupon at an HD store?

[NotMoneyGuy]

So are you suggesting to buy something small in Rona, get a coupon and then try your luck with that coupon at an HD store?

I don't think you have to actually go to a Rona first, just walk into HD with some sort of proof of the Oct 08/11 "scratch and save" event (newspaper, flyer, web print) and say something like "I plan to go over to Rona today and buy a snowthrower and get 10-50% off unless you sell me one here at HD now and give me the 10% off on it; the lowest scratch I could get if I went to Rona."

Edit: then say "you know what, I feel real lucky today; I'm sure I'd scratch a 20% or better over there, what'd'ya say we meet in the middle and you make it 15% off, that way I feel like I'm beating those Rona guys and I'd much rather shop here with you guys at HD...."

[DrSavant]

Haha, in that case I should try going all in - I feel like I'm getting 50% off at Rona today - how about hooking me up right here, at HD? :D

[NotMoneyGuy]

Haha, in that case I should try going all in - I feel like I'm getting 50% off at Rona today - how about hooking me up right here, at HD? :D

Start high, settle lower, why not? :D

Also, try "I could scratch at worst 10% at Rona, you guys here at HD beat others by 10%, so make it 20% off (10+10) and we have a deal'. Trust me, the math challenged are out there.

[chachu]

Ariens do not have hand warmer grips on 24/28 where as Troy Bilts have them -Confusing which one to buy ? Any other considerations for a dual stage pref 24.:|

[tutchio]

Troy Bilts are very unriliable

[Bordak]

Ariens do not have hand warmer grips on 24/28 where as Troy Bilts have them -Confusing which one to buy ? Any other considerations for a dual stage pref 24.:|

Ariens do have hand warmers, but only on the Platinum models. The Deluxe models do not include them. I believe you can buy the official ones from Ariens for ~$75.

[NotMoneyGuy]

Ariens do have hand warmers, but only on the Platinum models. The Deluxe models do not include them. I believe you can buy the official ones from Ariens for ~$75.

The Ariens Deluxe 30 has them.

[Bordak]

The Ariens Deluxe 30 has them.

He was asking about the 24/28, but for the sake of clarity, thanks for pointing this out.

[chachu]

Tx
How about Snow tek they r also from Arien . Snow Tek 28 is 749 -twice sold out at my local HD . Arien 28 DLX is 1399 -engine is big etc.
I have 50 x 30 feet driveway ,what should i pick ..?

[tutchio]

Tx
How about Snow tek they r also from Arien . Snow Tek 28 is 749 -twice sold out at my local HD . Arien 28 DLX is 1399 -engine is big etc.
I have 50 x 30 feet driveway ,what should i pick ..?

As i said in previous replys you could get the DLX for 1070$ at homedepot Since its 1194$ at jean guglia and every store listed on ariens.com at 1070$ You cannot go wrong with the dlx you will have more power and you have the orange machine ;)

[ldnsaver]

Hello,

Wondering if anyone is ever heard of P3?

I was talking to someone at NAPA and they mentioned they had this model of snowblower last year.

http://www.p3power.ca/st_gse3266stg.html

I know its Chinese made.

He mentioned they had a couple left and were clearing them out at $499 + taxes.

Any thoughts? Would it be worth the risk at the price?

Thanks,

Ldnsaver

[polypep]

Hello,

Wondering if anyone is ever heard of P3?

I was talking to someone at NAPA and they mentioned they had this model of snowblower last year.

http://www.p3power.ca/st_gse3266stg.html

I know its Chinese made.

He mentioned they had a couple left and were clearing them out at $499 + taxes.

Any thoughts? Would it be worth the risk at the price?

Thanks,

Ldnsaver

saw this make at the s edm princess auto. cant remember the price

[aubullion]

Hi all,

I have read every page of this thread, and still have a few questions (sorry no deal to offer!)

1) Is there any issue with interlocking brick?

2) Both single and two stage models would have problems with that "plow over" from the street plows filling the end of the driveway with tons of crap.... If this is my main concern, is there a real difference?

3) Would a cheap one stage suffice if he is constantly staying on top of it? Will it work, if he goes slow with "plow over" at end of the driveway?

4) Also, are these all "push" operated? Is it similar to pushing a mower? Lighter / heavier for example? I may not see the benefit if he has to push a 50lb piece of metal across the driveway 20x.[/B]

Thanks in advance!

[chachu]

Hd has fixed price Arien 28 Dlx is now showing 1119 where as 24 is 1129..?

[NotMoneyGuy]

Hd has fixed price Arien 28 Dlx is now showing 1119 where as 24 is 1129..?

Yes, that makes no sense with the 28 for less than the 24. Forget the Deluxe 24, grab the 28!

The Ariens Deluxe 28 for $1,119 less 10% matching Rona on Saturday =$1,007.10 should probably be a contender for those looking for a solid two stage. Just make sure you get this year's with cast iron gear box and integral headlight. (The new gear box is black and the machine also has grey covers on the levers and the chute rotator).

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345

Edit: then later, if in the next 30 days HD should ever have their sought after 20% off sale, come back for the "other 10%" off as an adjustment. 20% off $1,119 = $895.20; pretty sweet for this machine. (HD puts it out at $1,399 to see who will bite.)

[chachu]

Yes, that makes no sense with the 28 for less than the 24. Forget the Deluxe 24, grab the 28!

The Ariens Deluxe 28 for $1,119 less 10% matching Rona on Saturday =$1,007.10 should probably be a contender for those looking for a solid two stage. Just make sure you get this year's with cast iron gear box and integral headlight. (The new gear box is black and the machine also has grey covers on the levers and the chute rotator).

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345

Did check with local dealer - cannot fit the ordered hand warmers on these machines - too bad>:(

[NotMoneyGuy]

Did check with local dealer - cannot fit the ordered hand warmers on these machines - too bad>:(

Granted I've only used my snow throwers for one winter, but the cold hands thing and desire for hand warmers never crossed my mind once. Just get good gloves. Maybe different if you are out there for hours or in a commercial setting.

[Barayolayosa]

Granted I've only used my snow throwers for one winter, but the cold hands thing and desire for hand warmers never crossed my mind once. Just get good gloves. Maybe different if you are out there for hours or in a commercial setting.

I've been using one all my life (well since I was old enough...lol). Have to agree that I've never had hand warmers and never wished I did.

That said, it's probably a nice to have, but I definitely wouldn't let it sway my decision against a particular machine.

[sroghen]

Quick Shoot on Toro Snowblower

Anyone knows how easy it is to get the Quick shoot parts and have them installed on your compatible snowblower?
Any contacts what can do it?
Any price estimates?

Thx

[chachu]

Yes, that makes no sense with the 28 for less than the 24. Forget the Deluxe 24, grab the 28!

The Ariens Deluxe 28 for $1,119 less 10% matching Rona on Saturday =$1,007.10 should probably be a contender for those looking for a solid two stage. Just make sure you get this year's with cast iron gear box and integral headlight. (The new gear box is black and the machine also has grey covers on the levers and the chute rotator).

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345

Edit: then later, if in the next 30 days HD should ever have their sought after 20% off sale, come back for the "other 10%" off as an adjustment. 20% off $1,119 = $895.20; pretty sweet for this machine. (HD puts it out at $1,399 to see who will bite.)

Why would HD match Rona today when Rona does not sell this product..?
Further to correct ,did check with other dealer ,hand warmers can be fitted onto this machine kit is 80 + 30 installation

[NotMoneyGuy]

Why would HD match Rona today when Rona does not sell this product..?

They are matching the general promotion, not item specific. I went to both stores today, bought an item at Rona and scratched 10% off. They don't let you leave with the scratch card, so I just left with a store flyer that mentions the promo. I took this to my local HD and the sales associate said no problem in matching it on the Deluxe 28 which was in the system for $1,119 (but still price tagged at $1,399). It would have been 10% off the $1,119. She had sold one earlier in the morning and had two left in boxes. The display model was last year's though. I told her I would let my neighbour know about the deal and may be back.

[NotMoneyGuy]

Based on the excessive (?) quantities of these in new boxes on skids at two HD's I saw this morning, I suspect something is coming up on them, better than the current $649. One location had 35.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

[Samsonites]

can someone clarify the Home Depot price match policy? I went to get the Deluxe 28 and showed them a competitors price that was lower. They said because the competitor's price was a sale, they will only match it and not give the additional 10% off.

[Tha DraGun]

It looks like a single speed machine which depending on your physical strength may be a challenge and annoying because of the size and weight of the machine. When you are looking at 2 stage blowers, it is expected that you need some serious power to chop away ice and snow. Only for that reason I would go with something that has a true variable transmission (Forward & Reverse speeds) as you need to adjust to the volume of ice and snow on your property. The more the snow, the slower you need to move. Electric start is also a nice feature to have for these big machines (don't see that for this one in the ad).

I live out west so we do not get that much snow and usually it is dry so I got myself a Toro single stage. If I was living in central or eastern Canada or the maritimes, I would have seriously considered a reputable brand's 2 stage with variable speed. Some entry level machines made by good brands use Chinese engines, I would stay clear of those. At this time Briggs & Stratton is the trusted engine manufacturer for cost price machines. Power steering is also a nice feature but not necessary as you will have to pay for this extra feature.

Remember you are spending over $500 on a machine so choose wisely and not just go with the lowest price.

I bought it today. Got 15% off so it ended up being $475.15 +tax.
Price was no issue. I was more concerned with size. I only have a single garage and dont have much room. I dont think I will need a huge one anyways. We havent been getting much snow lately. I didnt want one of those dinky snow throwers either so hopefully this will be ok.
It does have electric start, I'm pretty sure all White Outdoors snowblowers has that feature. From what I've heard no one ever uses that anyways. Its also got the poly Slide shoes so it wont scratch the driveway. One other thing I like is that the augers all have separate shear bolts. So if one breaks you can still use the snowblower, and even without the bolt it should still work.. the way its designed the other augers just push it along to keep it going.

[tutchio]

can someone clarify the Home Depot price match policy? I went to get the Deluxe 28 and showed them a competitors price that was lower. They said because the competitor's price was a sale, they will only match it and not give the additional 10% off.

Yes that ia correct of you find a competitor with a lower price at regular price they will match it and give you 10% off on top of it, if it is a sale price at the competitor they will match the exact same price of the item so you might as well buy from the competitor or you ask for a manager and ask him to explain to you why would you buy from them if they offer the same price only. I bet they will give you a 5% off just for you tp buy now if you negociate

[NotMoneyGuy]

HD's policy is as you posted.

[sroghen]

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-clear-180-snow-blower/910387
Got it at $399 after PM

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8902/homedepot.png

PM with
Kooy Brothers Equipment Ltd.
www.kooybros.com
Model 38272 – $ 399.99

- Dealt with a gentleman at MISSISSAUGA BRITANNIA but total as......e at BRAMPTON
Store #7006. The guy there was trying very hard to find a reason not to allow PM, even suggesting I get a letterhead with this quote. I said thanks and bye. No time to deal with a...e
- Tried to get extra 10% but could not. Someone else may be able to.

[knievel]

Thinking about getting one this size, that's a good price. Can I ask what you pricematched with?


http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-clear-180-snow-blower/910387
Got it at $399 after PM

http://img267.imageshack.us/img267/8902/homedepot.png

[BinaryJay]

Thinking about getting one this size, that's a good price. Can I ask what you pricematched with?

+1 give us the PM info before it's too late. I think I want a thrower this year, very long driveway... but I don't want or think I need a monster truck thrower. I just want a simple inexpensive small one that isn't going to be a piece of crap as long as I don't wait until there's 4 feet of snow on the ground.

[MrDisco]

holy crap. at lunch costco had the snowjow max (electric) for $200 that was advertised in their latest newsletter. decided to get it after waiting a couple of hours and now it's sold out :'(

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10353229&cm_mmc=CNEmail_EN_568-_-Focus-_-13-_-MarketingItemName

[pagal]

Walmart 24" Murray with a B& Engine $749+Change
Lowes 24" Canadiana again with B&S engine $749 & Change
Sears Mastercraft 24" was on sale this weekend ($200 off + $50 Coupon) with EZ Steer $850+Change

Anyone care to comments on Sears EZ Steer with Joystick.....

Sears will be back on Sale Next weekend.

[jamdat]

Hi all,

I have read every page of this thread, and still have a few questions (sorry no deal to offer!)

1) Is there any issue with interlocking brick?

2) Both single and two stage models would have problems with that "plow over" from the street plows filling the end of the driveway with tons of crap.... If this is my main concern, is there a real difference?

3) Would a cheap one stage suffice if he is constantly staying on top of it? Will it work, if he goes slow with "plow over" at end of the driveway?

4) Also, are these all "push" operated? Is it similar to pushing a mower? Lighter / heavier for example? I may not see the benefit if he has to push a 50lb piece of metal across the driveway 20x.[/B]

Thanks in advance!Also interested in the answers to these questions. I'm basically in the same situation.

[rsiddi01]

Who are you Price Matching? please let me know!

[NotMoneyGuy]

+1 give us the PM info before it's too late. I think I want a thrower this year, very long driveway... but I don't want or think I need a monster truck thrower. I just want a simple inexpensive small one that isn't going to be a piece of crap as long as I don't wait until there's 4 feet of snow on the ground.

Jay,

In case you DO want a monster in an otherwise reasonably-sized package, check the specs on this 28" beast...

http://www.ariens.com/products_snow/s_professional_group/s_professional_28/Pages/default.aspx :-0

[sroghen]

Updated with PM information

[pacman]

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-clear-180-snow-blower/910387
Got it at $399 after PM



PM with
Kooy Brothers Equipment Ltd.
www.kooybros.com
Model 38272 – $ 399.99

- Dealt with a gentleman at MISSISSAUGA BRITANNIA but total as......e at BRAMPTON
Store #7006. The guy there was trying very hard to find a reason not to allow PM, even suggesting I get a letterhead with this quote. I said thanks and bye. No time to deal with a...e
- Tried to get extra 10% but could not. Someone else may be able to.

Did you get the Toro 418ZR or the Toro Powerclear 180? The receipt and model indicate the Toro 418ZR but the link you provided to the HD website shows the Powerclear 180 ( which is last years version of the 418ZR).

I just got HD to price protect these guys http://equipmentexpress.ca/snowblowers_single.htm who have the 38272 Toro 418ZR for $399.

HD beat the price by 10%, so I paid $360 for the unit which is a pretty good deal. Not sure if I'll be able to find it for less anywhere else.

I can upload the receipt if it helps anyone.

James

[dancom]

[I just got HD to price protect these guys http://equipmentexpress.ca/snowblowers_single.htm who have the 38272 Toro 418ZR for $399.

HD beat the price by 10%, so I paid $360 for the unit which is a pretty good deal. Not sure if I'll be able to find it for less anywhere else.

I can upload the receipt if it helps anyone.

James[/QUOTE]

****

Please upload the receipt. Thanks.
Dan

[sroghen]

Did you get the Toro 418ZR or the Toro Powerclear 180? The receipt and model indicate the Toro 418ZR but the link you provided to the HD website shows the Powerclear 180 ( which is last years version of the 418ZR).

I just got HD to price protect these guys http://equipmentexpress.ca/snowblowers_single.htm who have the 38272 Toro 418ZR for $399.

HD beat the price by 10%, so I paid $360 for the unit which is a pretty good deal. Not sure if I'll be able to find it for less anywhere else.

I can upload the receipt if it helps anyone.

James


Yes, there was a confusion on that in store. Both has same PN: 38272. I showed the guy the model online, he said there was none of the powerclear 180 despite the inventory says they had 8. After some searching, he ended up saying these 2 are actually the same with same PN. The box says 418ZR.
Im not sure how to check for any difference between the 2 on the snowblower itself.

Anything different between the 2 models?

[pacman]

Yes, there was a confusion on that in store. Both has same PN: 38272. I showed the guy the model online, he said there was none of the powerclear 180 despite the inventory says they had 8. After some searching, he ended up saying these 2 are actually the same with same PN. The box says 418ZR.
Im not sure how to check for any difference between the 2 on the snowblower itself.

Anything different between the 2 models?


I'm not sure, but the model # is the same between the powerclear 180 and the 418ZR according to many websites.

My guess is, the Powerclear 180 had a huge recall last year due to a rusting pin in the carb, which caused gas to leak out of the blower onto the floor. I suspect Toro rectified the quality control issue, and just slapped a new sticker on the box/blower for a 418ZR. They machines look identical, and there really isn't much of a reason to change the model since it had only been out for a year or so.

Either way, hopefully these new 418ZR models have fixed the issue. From the videos I've watched on youtube, these small machines have quite a bit of power and are perfect if you don't want a big machine taking up space in the garage.

This website gives the serial # range for units that had issues.

Mine is 312006631, so it looks to be out of the range.

James

James

[benyl]

Which HD in Calgary did you get yours at? do you have to go to Customer service to get the price match, or will they do it at the till?

[sroghen]

Which HD in Calgary did you get yours at? do you have to go to Customer service to get the price match, or will they do it at the till?

you will need customer service to do it. They will call the company and verify.

[v1p3r69]

I just got Home Depot in Waterloo to price match and beat by 10% a local store for the Toro Power Clear 418 ZR. Ended up being $360 plus taxes and came out to around $405 taxes in.

Home depot link: http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-clear-180-snow-blower/910387#BVRRWidgetID
Local small engine shop (Meetz) link: http://www.meetz.ca/equip/equipDet.php?eClass=4&eType=1&eModel=130
Note different names but same model number.

[wheelz]

Still 3 available at this location as of today a 1pm.


Poulon Pro PR521 at Walmart for $198. Walmart off the Queensway had s bunch to them.

[milkman_tom]

holy crap. at lunch costco had the snowjow max (electric) for $200 that was advertised in their latest newsletter. decided to get it after waiting a couple of hours and now it's sold out :'(

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10353229&cm_mmc=CNEmail_EN_568-_-Focus-_-13-_-MarketingItemName

Don't get the electric one from Costco, I got it last year and it will not handle medium to heavy snow. I returned it. Going to get the 24" gas thrower this year, either at Costco or HD.

[iam_immigrant]

Was at the Markham East location last night and saw SnowTek 2stage with 136cc motor with gears for $499...talked to the guy and he said those are special buys..once they are gone they are gone.

They have the same machine with the 208cc motor for $649...is the bigger motor worth an extra $150??

[jamwong]

Has anyone purchased a Toro Power Curve 1800 in Edmonton?

The cheapest I see it is $359.99 at Home Hardware. I am going to guess HD would price match + 10% off which would help but it still seems pretty expensive.

[brunes]

Anyone else see this other model at Costco for $899?

It seems like a good price to me for a 27"., metal chute, power steer... no hand warmers though.

http://i.imgur.com/mq3H6l.jpg (http://imgur.com/mq3H6)

[kckool]

heads up. lowes is offering a range of discounts on snow throwers starting tomorrow. 500-999 (100), 1000-1499 (200), 1500+ (300). You get the money in the form of gift cards. I took the flyer to HD and used against the Ariens Deluxe 28. Picked it up for 929. Which was 200 off. YMMV.

[direct-x]

Can anyone comment on the following two machines?

Poulan Pro LCT24 (http://www.sears.ca/product/poulan-pro-9torque-lct24-mid-frame-dual-stage-snow-blower/671-000202721-961980038) and Sno-Tek 24 (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481)

Basically $100 difference in price, specs look pretty much the same from what I can tell. I guess I am really concerned with durability and longevity. I am in Quebec, so get quite a bit of nasty snowfalls.

Driveway is about 35 x 25 on asphalt.

Would these both be a decent buy? HD is somewhat attractive due to the no payments for 12 month offer they have going on.

[volan]

I need a new snow thrower. I was using a small electric Toro Power Curve which worked pretty well, but the parts are all plastic and get scraped up in a few years. I'm thinking of getting Snow Joe to replace my Toro, but I came across a Wheeled Snow Shovel called a Wovel, which apparently has been getting really good reviews.

I was wondering if anyone on this thread has any experience with a Wovel (available at HD online) and what they thought.

[pagal]

Can anyone comment on the following two machines?

Poulan Pro LCT24 (http://www.sears.ca/product/poulan-pro-9torque-lct24-mid-frame-dual-stage-snow-blower/671-000202721-961980038) and Sno-Tek 24 (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481)

Basically $100 difference in price, specs look pretty much the same from what I can tell. I guess I am really concerned with durability and longevity. I am in Quebec, so get quite a bit of nasty snowfalls.

Driveway is about 35 x 25 on asphalt.

Would these both be a decent buy? HD is somewhat attractive due to the no payments for 12 month offer they have going on.

They both have LCT engines.....Thats a no go for me....Briggs Engines is the way to go
Checkout the Canadiana at Lowes

[sroghen]

I just got Home Depot in Waterloo to price match and beat by 10% a local store for the Toro Power Clear 418 ZR. Ended up being $360 plus taxes and came out to around $405 taxes in.

Home depot link: http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-clear-180-snow-blower/910387#BVRRWidgetID
Local small engine shop (Meetz) link: http://www.meetz.ca/equip/equipDet.php?eClass=4&eType=1&eModel=130
Note different names but same model number.

Thanks
Went back to HD and got another 10% off.
418ZR @ $360+taxes

[NotMoneyGuy]

heads up. lowes is offering a range of discounts on snow throwers starting tomorrow. 500-999 (100), 1000-1499 (200), 1500+ (300). You get the money in the form of gift cards. I took the flyer to HD and used against the Ariens Deluxe 28. Picked it up for 929. Which was 200 off. YMMV.

Awesome! Great price for a machine that will do you proud when it really snows, and it will snow. Go big or go home.

[pacman]

Has anyone purchased a Toro Power Curve 1800 in Edmonton?

The cheapest I see it is $359.99 at Home Hardware. I am going to guess HD would price match + 10% off which would help but it still seems pretty expensive.

I would get the 418ZR and get HD to price protect it for $360. It's a much better machine than the electric 1800 and roughly the same size.

[darcyh]

Anyone else see this other model at Costco for $899?

It seems like a good price to me for a 27"., metal chute, power steer... no hand warmers though.

http://i.imgur.com/mq3H6l.jpg (http://imgur.com/mq3H6)

Hello:

I have had the Poulin Pro for two seasons. No issues / troubles to report. Easy to start, good on gas and throws pretty well. I added a fuel filter and fuel turn off valve to the engine.

Regards,

Dave

[cavuu]

Was at the Markham East location last night and saw SnowTek 2stage with 136cc motor with gears for $499...talked to the guy and he said those are special buys..once they are gone they are gone.

They have the same machine with the 208cc motor for $649...is the bigger motor worth an extra $150??

I personally would stay away from special buys that are limitied production as obtaining parts may be a problem in the future.

[Samsonites]

heads up. lowes is offering a range of discounts on snow throwers starting tomorrow. 500-999 (100), 1000-1499 (200), 1500+ (300). You get the money in the form of gift cards. I took the flyer to HD and used against the Ariens Deluxe 28. Picked it up for 929. Which was 200 off. YMMV.

Do you think I can get an additional $200 off if I already bought my snowblower last week using a price match?

[TrueDon]

holy crap. at lunch costco had the snowjow max (electric) for $200 that was advertised in their latest newsletter. decided to get it after waiting a couple of hours and now it's sold out :'(

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10353229&cm_mmc=CNEmail_EN_568-_-Focus-_-13-_-MarketingItemName

Costco is now taking orders but it's back-ordered expected to ship in 3 weeks. Ordered one.

[chachu]

heads up. lowes is offering a range of discounts on snow throwers starting tomorrow. 500-999 (100), 1000-1499 (200), 1500+ (300). You get the money in the form of gift cards. I took the flyer to HD and used against the Ariens Deluxe 28. Picked it up for 929. Which was 200 off. YMMV.

HD online did not do that as Lowes is not selling this particular model ,How would the store do ..?

[BinaryJay]

Costco is now taking orders but it's back-ordered expected to ship in 3 weeks. Ordered one.

I like the idea of NOT needing to deal with or store gasoline in my garage, or do any of the maintenance that gasoline engines require BUT add the cost of a really long heavy gauge extension cord and the fact that it probably isn't any good for more than a couple inches of fluffy snow and I think it'll just frustrate me and cost me more than I think in the end. :(

[karmanwalia]

Costco is now taking orders but it's back-ordered expected to ship in 3 weeks. Ordered one.

I ordered the Snow Joe on Oct 7th and it was shipped out on Oct 12th.

[Bordak]

Picked up a 28" Ariens Deluxe today. They want $25 for assembly, but if you are even moderately handy, assembly will take 45 minutes. The box is a monster, 34" high, 34" wide and 56" long, so I had to use a friends van, no SUV I had access to could handle it.

Neighbors saw me assembling it in the backyard and complained it was way too early to put it together yet, but now I am dieing for the years first storm.

[chachu]

Picked up a 28" Ariens Deluxe today. They want $25 for assembly, but if you are even moderately handy, assembly will take 45 minutes. The box is a monster, 34" high, 34" wide and 56" long, so I had to use a friends van, no SUV I had access to could handle it.

Neighbors saw me assembling it in the backyard and complained it was way too early to put it together yet, but now I am dieing for the years first storm.

Mind sharing price..?

[Bordak]

Mind sharing price..?

$1119 and tax at Home Depot, the current list price that was lowered last week from $1400, no extra deal here.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345

[MrDisco]

Costco is now taking orders but it's back-ordered expected to ship in 3 weeks. Ordered one.

yup. it came back online yesterday. i was refreshing every few hours since i posted here. i ordered one as well..3week lead time is pretty good in case there's a sale on something better elsewhere (though i think only Toro makes a similar electric blower. not sure which one is better)

[cadave]

Thanks
Went back to HD and got another 10% off.
418ZR @ $360+taxes


I just got Home Depot in Waterloo to price match and beat by 10% a local store for the Toro Power Clear 418 ZR. Ended up being $360 plus taxes and came out to around $405 taxes in.

Home depot link: http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-clear-180-snow-blower/910387#BVRRWidgetID
Local small engine shop (Meetz) link: http://www.meetz.ca/equip/equipDet.php?eClass=4&eType=1&eModel=130
Note different names but same model number.

Do you guys mind sharing which location you went to that gave you the price beat? The associates at the Home Depot store at Sunrise were being total tools... would only match the price but refused to beat it because Meetz is a "dealer" and not a "retailer".

[chachu]

heads up. lowes is offering a range of discounts on snow throwers starting tomorrow. 500-999 (100), 1000-1499 (200), 1500+ (300). You get the money in the form of gift cards. I took the flyer to HD and used against the Ariens Deluxe 28. Picked it up for 929. Which was 200 off. YMMV.

Cool ,they wont do this here as it is not available in store only online ,HD online people want to see exact model being sold by Lowes ,and Lowes dosn't sell Ariens.
Where did you pick yours..?

[sroghen]

Do you guys mind sharing which location you went to that gave you the price beat? The associates at the Home Depot store at Sunrise were being total tools... would only match the price but refused to beat it because Meetz is a "dealer" and not a "retailer".

Find another HD and tell them they are a retailer.
One HD I went to told me the same crap.

[kckool]

HD online did not do that as Lowes is not selling this particular model ,How would the store do ..?

The advertisement was for all snowblowers they stocked. Similar situation to those that did the 10% Rona promotion match.

[kckool]

Do you think I can get an additional $200 off if I already bought my snowblower last week using a price match?

Your pricematch is going to based on the original price you paid - so I'd do the math and decide which favours you better.

[kckool]

Cool ,they wont do this here as it is not available in store only online ,HD online people want to see exact model being sold by Lowes ,and Lowes dosn't sell Ariens.
Where did you pick yours..?

Local - GTA.

[mackie29]

I have narrowed it down to these snowblowers any thoughs on them.

Ariens ST24LE Compact $999
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st24le-compact-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width/918483


Poulan PRO 250 cc Gas-powered 27-in. $899 instore
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10353805&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA|114|3241|22254&N=4010129&Mo=3&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22254&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&hierPath=114*3241*22254*&topnav=

Thanks

[v1p3r69]

Do you guys mind sharing which location you went to that gave you the price beat? The associates at the Home Depot store at Sunrise were being total tools... would only match the price but refused to beat it because Meetz is a "dealer" and not a "retailer".

I got mine at the Waterloo location (on King Street). I didn't have any issues at all, actually the employee that assisted me said they price match (and beat) the local small engine shops regularly.

[brunes]

Home Hardware has on sale a Yard Machines 30" for $899! Seems too good to be true?

Don't have time to scan but here's the details

Powermore 4 cycle OHV engine
Electric Start
6 F / 2 R Speed
2 way chute control
Plastic chute
Light
21" intake
Folding handles

I think it's this one

http://www.homehardware.ca/products/300/55549951.jpg

http://www.walmart.com/ip/Yard-Machines-30-357cc-Two-Stage-Snowthrower/17252193
http://www.homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Outdoor-Living/Yard-Maintenance/Snow-Removal-Aids/Power-Tools/Gas-Snow-Throwers/THROWER-SNOW-357CC-30/_/N-ntlijZ2pqa/R-I5554995

[coombs]

I have narrowed it down to these snowblowers any thoughs on them.

Ariens ST24LE Compact $999
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st24le-compact-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width/918483


Poulan PRO 250 cc Gas-powered 27-in. $899 instore
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10353805&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA|114|3241|22254&N=4010129&Mo=3&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22254&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&hierPath=114*3241*22254*&topnav=

Thanks

I'm trying to decide on these exact same two models. Have you made a decision? Anyone with reviews on the Poulans? I find a lot of good things about the Ariens but not much about the Poulans good or bad. The Poulan is a larger unit for less money. But is that necessarily better?

someone help!!!

[clammydog]

Trying to decide which one to buy.

Home Depot sells both of these models for the same price of $999.

Both have excellent reviews and similar features except the Cub has heated hand grips and power steering.

I think either are good but I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on these models.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st24le-compact-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width/918483

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/cub-cadet-24-inch-snow-thrower/911817

Thanks,

[NotMoneyGuy]

^^^

Sorry to harp on this, but if you're looking to buy the Ariens Compact 24, PLEASE make sure that you weigh the extra cash for the Deluxe 24 versus the spec benefits before doing so. A lot better than afterwards. Even if you can only get it from HD.ca for a reasonable delivery fee, the total cost difference may be worth it to you. Just check it out. A lot more machine IMO.

[Lee C]

^^^

Sorry to harp on this, but if you're looking to buy the Ariens Compact 24, PLEASE make sure that you weigh the extra cash for the Deluxe 24 versus the spec benefits before doing so. A lot better than afterwards. Even if you can only get it from HD.ca for a reasonable delivery fee, the total cost difference may be worth it to you. Just check it out. A lot more machine IMO.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st24le-deluxe-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width/954281
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345
No Brainer I guess

[ivorm]

Trying to decide which one to buy.

Home Depot sells both of these models for the same price of $999.

Both have excellent reviews and similar features except the Cub has heated hand grips and power steering.

I think either are good but I was wondering if anyone had any thoughts on these models.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st24le-compact-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width/918483

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/cub-cadet-24-inch-snow-thrower/911817

Thanks,


^^^

Sorry to harp on this, but if you're looking to buy the Ariens Compact 24, PLEASE make sure that you weigh the extra cash for the Deluxe 24 versus the spec benefits before doing so. A lot better than afterwards. Even if you can only get it from HD.ca for a reasonable delivery fee, the total cost difference may be worth it to you. Just check it out. A lot more machine IMO.

Yeah if you can get the deluxe 24 for the same deal that kckool got ($200 off price matching Lowes) then that would be a pretty good deal on the deluxe.

Edit: people do with the barbeque sales all summer long when HD doesn't carry the same models so I would think you can convince them to do it.

Might have to go for the 28 to get the best deal though, I don't know if the 24 is available in store; at least it wasn't on the floor in Halifax.

[NotMoneyGuy]

Yeah if you can get the deluxe 24 for the same deal that kckool got ($200 off price matching Lowes) then that would be a pretty good deal on the deluxe.

Yeah, but he got the Deluxe 28, not Deluxe 24. If you got the room for it, the 28 is the way to go. But if for some reason you are hell-bent on a 24, the Deluxe 24 is probably better value than the Compact 24.

[clammydog]

^^^

Sorry to harp on this, but if you're looking to buy the Ariens Compact 24, PLEASE make sure that you weigh the extra cash for the Deluxe 24 versus the spec benefits before doing so. A lot better than afterwards. Even if you can only get it from HD.ca for a reasonable delivery fee, the total cost difference may be worth it to you. Just check it out. A lot more machine IMO.

No worries, I appreciate the advice. I realize that the 28" is a better deal but I don't need something that big or heavy. I have a small double car driveway and 50 feet of sidewalk to clean. I mostly need a machine to deal with the windrows at the end of my driveway after the plow comes by. On the other hand if I can get $200 knocked off the price with the Lowes gift card promo I'll give it serious consideration. I'll try it this weekend.

Thanks,

[NotMoneyGuy]

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st24le-deluxe-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width/954281
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345
No Brainer I guess

Here's all three side by side (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductCompareView?storeId=10051&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&N=0&Ntx=mode+matchany&Dx=mode+matchany&Ntk=P_PartNumber&Ntt=954281 954345 918483 undefined &D=954281 954345 918483 undefined &sourcePage=ProductCompareView&compareType=item&compare=954281 954345 918483 undefined &searchTermForCompare=null&searchLevel=level1&prod1=954281&prod2=954345&prod3=918483&prod4=undefined).

Obviously the Deluxe 28 rules at less cost than the Deluxe 24. If you need / must have a 24, get the Deluxe 24.

[Lee C]

Here's all three side by side (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductCompareView?storeId=10051&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&N=0&Ntx=mode+matchany&Dx=mode+matchany&Ntk=P_PartNumber&Ntt=954281 954345 918483 undefined &D=954281 954345 918483 undefined &sourcePage=ProductCompareView&compareType=item&compare=954281 954345 918483 undefined &searchTermForCompare=null&searchLevel=level1&prod1=954281&prod2=954345&prod3=918483&prod4=undefined).

Obviously the Deluxe 28 rules at less cost than the Deluxe 24. If you need / must have a 24, get the Deluxe 24.

Thanks

[zalapski]

For those on the fence with the Deluxe 28- My cousin tried pushing around the Deluxe 28 on a dry-run at the local store and she found the handles on the high-side and overall quite uncomfortable to handle after only a few minutes. She is by no means petite. Of course nothing beats a real snow test but something to consider. In the end she opted for the 24 Compact.


Here's all three side by side (http://www.homedepot.ca/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ProductCompareView?storeId=10051&catalogId=10051&langId=-15&N=0&Ntx=mode+matchany&Dx=mode+matchany&Ntk=P_PartNumber&Ntt=954281 954345 918483 undefined &D=954281 954345 918483 undefined &sourcePage=ProductCompareView&compareType=item&compare=954281 954345 918483 undefined &searchTermForCompare=null&searchLevel=level1&prod1=954281&prod2=954345&prod3=918483&prod4=undefined).

Obviously the Deluxe 28 rules at less cost than the Deluxe 24. If you need / must have a 24, get the Deluxe 24.

[pulsar]

I realize that the 28" is a better deal but I don't need something that big

Bet you won't be saying that when it's -25 outside and you have 6 inches or more snow to clear.

[kckool]

For those on the fence with the Deluxe 28- My cousin tried pushing around the Deluxe 28 on a dry-run at the local store and she found the handles on the high-side and overall quite uncomfortable to handle after only a few minutes. She is by no means petite. Of course nothing beats a real snow test but something to consider. In the end she opted for the 24 Compact.

I was going to get the compact 24 as well - I just couldn't pass on the Deluxe 28 for an extra $30.

[Lee C]

I was going to get the compact 24 as well - I just couldn't pass on the Deluxe 28 for an extra $30.

I am thinking the same now that I moved to Barrie 3 Months ago:D

[sameolg]

This is a good deal for a single stage machine with this much power. Well worth the price considering you're getting better specs than a Toro. This machine is more than adequate to take care of a 2 or 3 car driveway in GTA, should reasonably handle the snow left at the edge of the driveway by snowplows ( for areas other than toronto).

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/SnowRemoval/Snowthrowers/PRD~0603726P/Troy-Bilt+208+cc+21-in+Single+Stage+Snow+Thrower.jsp?locale=en


http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/CanadianTire/0603726_1?$medium$&defaultImage=image_na_EN

[bobmacc]

I am replacing an 8HP MTD 28" snow blower with a Tecumseh 300+cc engine that has died after 25 plus years and have been following this thread with interest. I learned one thing from this snow blower and that is the only time your really need it is when there is damp or wet snow. The real need is to clear the wet compacted snow piled at the bottom of the driveway by a snow plow and you need a blower with the greatest power that you can afford. If you have never owned a blower before, don't underestimate the frequency of such conditions in the GTA. Most of the rest of Ontario gets lots more snow but it is much lighter and a lesser machine may be fine there. I have some doubts as to the ability of the smaller engines on many machines for such a task. While I highly doubt any snowblower I purchase today will last another 25 years, I am inclined to look at Troy Bilt blowers - under whatever brand - given their long experience. I would really like to see feedback from people who have bought machines in the last couple of years and hear their experiences of how they handle a 20 inch tall plow windrow at the bottom of their driveways.

[Tha DraGun]

This is a good deal for a single stage machine with this much power. Well worth the price considering you're getting better specs than a Toro. This machine is more than adequate to take care of a 2 or 3 car driveway in GTA, should reasonably handle the snow left at the edge of the driveway by snowplows ( for areas other than toronto).

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/SnowRemoval/Snowthrowers/PRD~0603726P/Troy-Bilt+208+cc+21-in+Single+Stage+Snow+Thrower.jsp?locale=en


http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/CanadianTire/0603726_1?$medium$&defaultImage=image_na_EN

Anyone know if Lowes carries this for a price match? The US site does, but I cant figure out how to search stock on the Canadian one.

[Dolfan-Neil]

I am replacing an 8HP MTD 28" snow blower with a Tecumseh 300+cc engine that has died after 25 plus years and have been following this thread with interest. I learned one thing from this snow blower and that is the only time your really need it is when there is damp or wet snow. The real need is to clear the wet compacted snow piled at the bottom of the driveway by a snow plow and you need a blower with the greatest power that you can afford. If you have never owned a blower before, don't underestimate the frequency of such conditions in the GTA. Most of the rest of Ontario gets lots more snow but it is much lighter and a lesser machine may be fine there. I have some doubts as to the ability of the smaller engines on many machines for such a task. While I highly doubt any snowblower I purchase today will last another 25 years, I am inclined to look at Troy Bilt blowers - under whatever brand - given their long experience. I would really like to see feedback from people who have bought machines in the last couple of years and hear their experiences of how they handle a 20 inch tall plow windrow at the bottom of their driveways.

I bought a Cub Cadet with all the bells and whistles 3 years ago. It has a Powermore 208cc engine. I would not recommend anything with the Powermore engine. It really had a hard time with wet snow.
Last year, I bought my father-in-law a Canadiana base model (made by Murray), no bells and whistles, but it has the Briggs and Stratton 208 cc engine, and let me tell you, I was impressed with the engine, it felt like it could handle anything. The only problem I have with my father-in-laws thrower is no power steering, no throttle control, awkward gear shift, no light and the most important is the lack of joystick control for directing the chute. I never even noticed the lack of hand warmers on his.

Bottom line, go for a B&S motor or I think you'll regret it. The bells and whistles are totally personal and depends on your needs, but the motor is key.

Hope this helps.

[tutchio]

A little update on this i ordered the 26 of sept 2011 I still haven't received my snowthrower apparently its back order at the warehouse. It might take a month from today to get it so I phoned homedepot.ca to place a complaint because when I placed my order it was available for shipment because they told me 7 to 10 days for it to arrive at my house. The supervisor Cynthia confirmed that it was back order and that her employers could not of told me so. After a few minutes of debating she gave me an extra 100$ off my order.


so I have it for 1785$ tax in as for now.


but yet i didnt even receive it.



This baby on the homedepot.ca

Ariens 342cc Deluxe 30" Platinum Snow Thrower
Model: 921018
Internet/Cat #: 979758
Store SKU #: 1000658948

is at 1895$ + tax

Now homedepot has a policy of a 10% if you find somewhere else cheaper

I was searching around for a better price because i really wanted this beast
I found it at 1839$ at http://www.jeanguglia.com/ ( but in store )

Now the problem I had with the Platinum Is that It could only be sold online and not in store. I tried going to the store and have a special order but knowing they would need to sell it to me 1655$ they denied to even try to get it into the store so they told me to call the homedepot.ca and told me to deal with them.

So I call homedepot.ca ofcourse the people on there call center ask me which website so i gave it to them now they check the website(im on hold) they come back on the phone telling me theres no price on the site and that they cannot place an other this is where i explain to them to call in store and ask jean guglia there regular price. They denied telling me they do not do that that there pricematch is only website to website to place an order. Then I ask hom to show me on their website policy where its written it is only website to website. puts me on hold again came back saying that they dont have a price protected policy for the website only.

so he reads me this:

TERMS : This Price Guarantee applies to identical in-stock items at The Home Depot retail location you visit. No special orders (with the exception of Special Order Appliances only) or rain checks. This guarantee does not apply to competitor online prices or offers. The Home Depot reserves the right to verify the price and availability of the product at the local competitor location before honouring this offer. Price confirmation from a competitor must be presented to The Home Depot during the effective dates of the competitor's flyer or within thirty (30) days of any other proof of competitor pricing. This Price Guarantee excludes typographical or other errors, free offers, gifts with purchase, gift cards, gift certificates, rebates, clearance or close-out prices, credit or financing programs, used, damaged, returned, open box or display merchandise, special orders (other than appliances), delivery or assembly services, labour, installation, and products and services furnished by our Installation Services. Discount applied before taxes and environmental stewardship fees or other levies, if applicable. We reserve the right to limit quantities to an amount reasonable for a residential homeowner. This price guarantee cannot be combined with any other offer. Ask an associate in store for details.

So i told him that he just told me he needed to price match website vs website BUT their policy says they dont cover online prices or offer (he puts me on hold to have me talk with a supervisor)

Superviser comes on the phone and told me that their headoffice tells them that they do not have any special policy for the online website and they are aware of that and they must use the website vs website for their online store. He also tells me that the price only applies to identical in-stock items at The Home Depot retail location But the homedepot.ca is a retail location So I told him thaT is not my fault if they advertise a 10% policy on the website but that is not applicable or (well written)

This is where I had a argument I told them that if the product would be in store that they would have applied it and that if there employe calls at that shop i mention above they would know that I could order on phone like i was doing right now and have the machine shipped at my house he keep telling me that they cannot do that.

I hung up. The next day I gave a call to head office. After argumenting she said she would contact homedepot.ca

I came home today with an email

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p295/lethalblink/snowthrower.jpg

Now this deal should be able to be for everyone. If you guys think its hot well maybe it is maybe its not. If i remember last years deal it was 20% But instore with the stock that was left. This model comes directly from the manufacture

If you have any questions yes my story was quite big But they cannot just tell us its website vs website and that is not written anywhere I told them they cant just ******** us like that if there head office does not make a special website clause

goodluck guys

hope this helps a few people till they change the policy

remember they will do anything to deny it.

[pagal]

Went all over town looking for Blowers....
MAstercraft....Sears $500 Off deal on EZ Steer, 1st year with EZ Steer, would stay away and other Mastercraft models, plastic has been cracking in really cold days with ice chips impacting chute
Poulan Pro @ Costco good, but no Discounts
Home Depot Ariens....metal chute and B&S engines,...deals coming up on limited models i,e 28" etc could be 10-15% off sometime in Nov

[Lee C]

Went all over town looking for Blowers....
MAstercraft....Sears $500 Off deal on EZ Steer, 1st year with EZ Steer, would stay away and other Mastercraft models, plastic has been cracking in really cold days with ice chips impacting chute
Poulan Pro @ Costco good, but no Discounts
Home Depot Ariens....metal chute and B&S engines,...deals coming up on limited models i,e 28" etc could be 10-15% off sometime in Nov

I want the Ariens 28 Deluxe 10-15 off would be great Thanks:cheesygri

[pagal]

I want the Ariens 28 Deluxe 10-15 off would be great Thanks:cheesygri

If in Ottawa, Goodtime Center Ottawa has a sale for various models of Ariens....HD will match but as Goodtime does not have flyer only Website you have to discuss with Customer Service at HD

[pagal]

If in Ottawa, Goodtime Center Ottawa has a sale for various models of Ariens....HD will match but as Goodtime does not have flyer only Website you have to discuss with Customer Service at HD

http://www.ottawagoodtime.com/

Forgot to post link to Ottawagoodtime....:D

[merlenn]

Went all over town looking for Blowers....
MAstercraft....Sears $500 Off deal on EZ Steer, 1st year with EZ Steer, would stay away and other Mastercraft models, plastic has been cracking in really cold days with ice chips impacting chute
Poulan Pro @ Costco good, but no Discounts
Home Depot Ariens....metal chute and B&S engines,...deals coming up on limited models i,e 28" etc could be 10-15% off sometime in Nov

I tried to do the match this weekend with the Lowes gift card deal, however my local HD didn't accept. But, they did encourage me to come back in a few weeks as the person suggested that the HD sale is coming very soon over the next few weeks. Take it for what it's worth, but hope it's coming soon!

[Samsonites]

http://www.ottawagoodtime.com/

Forgot to post link to Ottawagoodtime....:D

Are the prices on this website the "regular" price or the sale price? HD told me it was their sales price so they only offered to PM it and not give an additional 10% off.

[clammydog]

I tried to do the match this weekend with the Lowes gift card deal, however my local HD didn't accept. But, they did encourage me to come back in a few weeks as the person suggested that the HD sale is coming very soon over the next few weeks. Take it for what it's worth, but hope it's coming soon!

I purchased the Cub Cadet 24" (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/cub-cadet-24-inch-snow-thrower/911817) thrower from HD in Whitby on Saturday (I was going to get the Ariens 24" Compact but the Cub was the bigger bang for the buck).

Manager knocked $100 off the price to match Lowes gift card offer. He said HD will be having a snow thrower sale around the first week in November. I can price match the sale price within 30 days if it's lower than the $899 I paid.

[smuPoker]

I purchased the Cub Cadet 24" (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/cub-cadet-24-inch-snow-thrower/911817) thrower from HD in Whitby on Saturday (I was going to get the Ariens 24" Compact but the Cub was the bigger bang for the buck).

Manager knocked $100 off the price to match Lowes gift card offer. He said HD will be having a snow thrower sale around the first week in November. I can price match the sale price within 30 days if it's lower than the $899 I paid.

Hmmm, if HD does in fact have a 30-day price protection policy, I may go get the Ariens I was looking at at HD and then get the price protection when the sale happens.

[clammydog]

Hmmm, if HD does in fact have a 30-day price protection policy, I may go get the Ariens I was looking at at HD and then get the price protection when the sale happens.

Exactly. Then you don't have to worry about any lack of stock issues. I would confirm the 30 day price match policy with your local HD just in case.

[chachu]

Exactly. Then you don't have to worry about any lack of stock issues. I would confirm the 30 day price match policy with your local HD just in case.

Ordered Arien 28 dlx by calling HD ,was told price match policy starts from day I get delivery and not order date.

[clammydog]

The Cub Cadet I ordered on Saturday from HD was suppose to be delivered today. It never showed up. Called HD, delivery paperwork got screwed up. They promised it for tomorrow and they will refund the delivery charge. Sweet!

[mrwinky]

The Cub Cadet I ordered on Saturday from HD was suppose to be delivered today. It never showed up. Called HD, delivery paperwork got screwed up. They promised it for tomorrow and they will refund the delivery charge. Sweet!

Enjoy the cub cadet, I bought the same one last yeat in Feb for $799.... I love the heated grips!!!!


Winky

[sameolg]

Anyone know if Lowes carries this for a price match? The US site does, but I cant figure out how to search stock on the Canadian one.

Unfortunately Lowes Canada does not carry this model. It is sold only exclusively at Canadian Tire.

[dingmah]

Just ordered the Craftsman 205cc single stage. Does anyone have any videos of it or any of its clones (Toro 621QZE) in action?

[Sloan55]

Just ordered the Craftsman 205cc single stage. Does anyone have any videos of it or any of its clones (Toro 621QZE) in action?

Just bought one of these a couple of weeks ago when it was $150 off. I couldn't find any videos of it either, but I took the plunge, knowing that it was a B&S engine. Assembly took about 10 minutes and she started on the first pull. Let me know your impressions when you get it.

[tutchio]

Finally they sent me the bill and I have now a Platinium 30" at a better price then the Deluxe 30"

http://i131.photobucket.com/albums/p295/lethalblink/home.jpg

for the ones who used this deal congrats.


1489$ + tax = 1696$ tax in for a nice machine

[zebek]

Hey guys,
I am looking at the White brand at Rona, they have a 22" Dualstage, and I am wondering if you guys know anything about it. It's $599 right now, but I am hoping for a sale to come up. It's not on their website, but the guy said that the Whites have a 3 year warranty.
Thoughts? (I have $250 in gift cards from Rona - it's why I am looking there, and 22" because I need it to fit through my gate and the 24" doesnt' my neighbour has one)

[Anatomy]

Just bought one of these a couple of weeks ago when it was $150 off. I couldn't find any videos of it either, but I took the plunge, knowing that it was a B&S engine. Assembly took about 10 minutes and she started on the first pull. Let me know your impressions when you get it.

Still $150 off and I'm considering this one as well but I want to know how much it will cost to replace the rubber bits on the auger and the scraper bar. I have submitted a request to their parts dept but I'm not holding my breath. Have you got a model number from your packaging or instructions so that I can try the sears-parts website?

Thanks!

[Sloan55]

Still $150 off and I'm considering this one as well but I want to know how much it will cost to replace the rubber bits on the auger and the scraper bar. I have submitted a request to their parts dept but I'm not holding my breath. Have you got a model number from your packaging or instructions so that I can try the sears-parts website?

Thanks!

I have that info at home, I will post it later tonight or tomorrow. Let me know what they say, I am assume I will get atleast 2-3 seasons out of the auger depending on the use.

[dingmah]

Still $150 off and I'm considering this one as well but I want to know how much it will cost to replace the rubber bits on the auger and the scraper bar. I have submitted a request to their parts dept but I'm not holding my breath. Have you got a model number from your packaging or instructions so that I can try the sears-parts website?


I have that info at home, I will post it later tonight or tomorrow. Let me know what they say, I am assume I will get atleast 2-3 seasons out of the auger depending on the use.
Considering that it's a Toro clone, it should be ~$100 for the replacement rubber augers IIRC. I asked the Sears sales guy last night, and he didn't know either. Just told me to check with the service department.

[Anatomy]

Looks like the Honda and Toro wear items can be replaced in the $100 range and ~30% cheaper on ebay. If the Craftsman parts are in the ballpark I'll pick one up tonight and keep $200-$300 in my pocket a little longer.

[jamdat]

This is a good deal for a single stage machine with this much power. Well worth the price considering you're getting better specs than a Toro. This machine is more than adequate to take care of a 2 or 3 car driveway in GTA, should reasonably handle the snow left at the edge of the driveway by snowplows ( for areas other than toronto).

http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/SnowRemoval/Snowthrowers/PRD~0603726P/Troy-Bilt+208+cc+21-in+Single+Stage+Snow+Thrower.jsp?locale=en


http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/CanadianTire/0603726_1?$medium$&defaultImage=image_na_EN

Do you know if this is a 4-stroke engine? I can't see anything on the CT website. I'm considering a single stage but don't want to have to mix oil and fuel.

[Tha DraGun]

Do you know if this is a 4-stroke engine? I can't see anything on the CT website. I'm considering a single stage but don't want to have to mix oil and fuel.

yes it is

[polypep]

Do you know if this is a 4-stroke engine? I can't see anything on the CT website. I'm considering a single stage but don't want to have to mix oil and fuel.

I have a Toro 221QE (2 stroke) and believe me mixing oil and gas is only a 2 minute task. I dreaded doing that but its easier than you think. BTW you will be lucky to find a 2 stroke snowblower these days.

[Sloan55]

I have that info at home, I will post it later tonight or tomorrow. Let me know what they say, I am assume I will get atleast 2-3 seasons out of the auger depending on the use.

Craftsman 208cc Single Stage for $549 at Sears

Model Number C950520601

Part Number you are looking for is 1751388YP Auger Assembly Complete

[pacman]

Do you know if this is a 4-stroke engine? I can't see anything on the CT website. I'm considering a single stage but don't want to have to mix oil and fuel.

Mixing the oil is easy. Just put the small container of oil into the full gas can and shake it up.

With a 4 stroke, you have to change the oil which is more of a hassle.

[NotMoneyGuy]

Ordered Arien 28 dlx by calling HD ,was told price match policy starts from day I get delivery and not order date.

FWIW you may also be happy to know that in the just received November 2011 issue of Consumer Reports cover titled "Best Products of the Year : 500+ top picks and great buys" they have the Ariens 921022 (Deluxe 28) (http://www.ariens.com/products/snow-blowers/deluxe-snow-blower/pages/default.aspx) tied for first in the "Two-stage gas" category with a score of 88 with a not-available-in-Canada machine (Troy-Bilt Storm 3090 XP 31AH55Q (http://www.troybilt.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_14102_567904_55003_-1)). [Page 34 and Canada Extra page 38C].

[chachu]

FWIW you may also be happy to know that in the just received November 2011 issue of Consumer Reports cover titled "Best Products of the Year : 500+ top picks and great buys" they have the Ariens 921022 (Deluxe 28) (http://www.ariens.com/products/snow-blowers/deluxe-snow-blower/pages/default.aspx) tied for first in the "Two-stage gas" category with a score of 88 with a not-available-in-Canada machine (Troy-Bilt Storm 3090 XP 31AH55Q (http://www.troybilt.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/product_10001_14102_567904_55003_-1)). [Page 34 and Canada Extra page 38C].

Great !!!! Waiting to assemble ,is it straight forward..?

[NotMoneyGuy]

Great !!!! Waiting to assemble ,is it straight forward..?

Pretty easy; unfold hanldbars, attach chute and chute crank; just take your time and refer to the manual. Just be sure not to kink or pinch cables etc. as you unfold the handlebars. Here's a link to the manual for the new 2011 model (S/N 35000+). It covers a bunch of Ariens models and may be of general interest.

http://apache.ariens.com/manuals/04335900C_ENG.pdf

[Anatomy]

Craftsman 208cc Single Stage for $549 at Sears

Model Number C950520601

Part Number you are looking for is 1751388YP Auger Assembly Complete

Thanks Sloan!

Model number is not bringing anything up on their parts system but the Auger Assembly is showing as $121.70 :cry:. I wonder if you can buy just the rubber bits like everyone else?! $122 + scraper bar (~$30?) + belt (~$20?) might kill it for me if I can have the same rebuild for $90 with the others. They never make it easy do they?

[ndog2]

Thanks Sloan!

Model number is not bringing anything up on their parts system but the Auger Assembly is showing as $121.70 :cry:. I wonder if you can buy just the rubber bits like everyone else?! $122 + scraper bar (~$30?) + belt (~$20?) might kill it for me if I can have the same rebuild for $90 with the others. They never make it easy do they?

The "1751388YP" part number is the straight murray part number so it fits on any of the brands that murray/B&S makes this model of snowblower for. This of course means you can shop at any B&S dealer or online you don't need to shop at sears. Looking at a couple parts diagram it seems like the auger is only sold as a complete assembly but plenty of sites from random googling are listing it at $91

[Anatomy]

The "1751388YP" part number is the straight murray part number so it fits on any of the brands that murray/B&S makes this model of snowblower for. This of course means you can shop at any B&S dealer or online you don't need to shop at sears. Looking at a couple parts diagram it seems like the auger is only sold as a complete assembly but plenty of sites from random googling are listing it at $91

Thanks! Good to know that it's a Murray... it should be much easier to find reasonably priced parts and brings this one back into the fight. As a Murray it will definitely bring the price of the other pieces down from Sears' inflated prices but replacing a whole auger assembly seems silly and wasteful.

[sameolg]

Do you know if this is a 4-stroke engine? I can't see anything on the CT website. I'm considering a single stage but don't want to have to mix oil and fuel.

Yes, this machine is a 4-stroke, so you DO NOT have to mix oil and fuel

I know some have responded saying that mixing oil and fuel is easy...no argument there. The problem is that usually its a lot noisier and the fumes are pretty strong. You coat, gloves, etc will stink afterwards. As well, a little more maintenance work has to go into it at the end of season to properly drain/clean up.

To add, the machine comes with a 4 year warranty. In my opinion, its a good deal for $475 and you're getting better specs than anything other single stage machine out there right now...toro, craftsman, sno-tek, cub-cadet (all of which are priced higher). Enjoy.
http://s7d5.scene7.com/is/image/CanadianTire/0603726_1?$medium$&defaultImage=image_na_EN

[yyz2hkg]

Just wondering if anyone posted this deal here...

Poulan Pro 136cc 21" - $198 @ WM

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/costco-gas-21-single-stage-snowthrower-379-198-wm-ymmv-1093719/

[dingmah]

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6049/6265409166_995d2ce2c9.jpg

Single stage B&S 205cc engine on sale until Wednesday October 26 at Lowe's for $498.
Only downside is that this one doesn't have a chute control lever by the handle bars, manual only.
Otherwise, it's identical to the other Toro/Craftsman/Canadian Tire 205cc single stage clones.

[CHIA]

http://farm7.static.flickr.com/6049/6265409166_995d2ce2c9.jpg

Single stage B&S 205cc engine on sale until Wednesday October 26 at Lowe's for $498.
Only downside is that this one doesn't have a chute control lever by the handle bars, manual only.
Otherwise, it's identical to the other Toro/Craftsman/Canadian Tire 205cc single stage clones.

Looks like regular price on both. There's a PR621ES (electric start, 208cc) @ Costco right now for $499,
and the SnowJoe electric, more deluxe than the Lowes version, for $199 shipped.

[smuPoker]

Heads up to anyone (like me) who was looking to get the Deluxe 28 Ariens from Home Depot. My online flyer shows the blower for a price of $1399 now, but the website still shows $1119. I am hopefully going to get to HD sometime today to get one of these for the website price, if they have indeed adjusted the price in store.

I printed out the website page for reference.

[Phoenix3434]

Just wondering if anyone posted this deal here...

Poulan Pro 136cc 21" - $198 @ WM

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/costco-gas-21-single-stage-snowthrower-379-198-wm-ymmv-1093719/

No. I think people on this thread are going for the $500+ throwers. I am sure they are better and faster than the cheapo $200 mower. But, my question is, for a typical Canadian driveway (2 car), do you really need the expensive throwers? Hell, even if the $200 one breaks quicker, you can just buy another one and still be in the profit!

It's like computers. My primary computer is still a 4 year old computer (well with a new AMD 6850 in it) - but everything else is 4 year old CPU, mobo, memory, etc. Obviously, the newer computers are faster and better - but do YOU really need it???.. For the vast majority of people in this country, they just need a $350-400 E-350 type laptop for their day-to-day needs. Yet, they regularly buy computers that are much more expensive.

And why go for a 6850 you ask with my current setup? So that when I do a full system upgrade maybe next year, my GPU won't be very obsolete :).

[smuPoker]

No. I think people on this thread are going for the $500+ throwers. I am sure they are better and faster than the cheapo $200 mower. But, my question is, for a typical Canadian driveway (2 car), do you really need the expensive throwers? Hell, even if the $200 one breaks quicker, you can just buy another one and still be in the profit!



You can't just assume everyone in this thread has a 2 car driveway. I have a 4 car driveway and live in NB (ie. snowstorms bring knee deep snow). I've had a crappy snow blower and it's amazingly frustrating to realize that even though you have a snow blower, shoveling might actually be faster because of how crappy the machine is.

[chen0289]

No. I think people on this thread are going for the $500+ throwers. I am sure they are better and faster than the cheapo $200 mower. But, my question is, for a typical Canadian driveway (2 car), do you really need the expensive throwers? Hell, even if the $200 one breaks quicker, you can just buy another one and still be in the profit!
.

$500 is more like a cheap single stage, more like everyone is going for $1000+, if you read 10% of the thread you will know anything less powerful will not handle the pile left by the trucks at end of the driveway, if your going to buy a $200 might as well stay with a shovel.

[chen0289]

You can't just assume everyone in this thread has a 2 car driveway. .

:arrowu::arrowu::arrowu::arrowu::arrowu:

[NotMoneyGuy]

I tried to do the match this weekend with the Lowes gift card deal, however my local HD didn't accept. But, they did encourage me to come back in a few weeks as the person suggested that the HD sale is coming very soon over the next few weeks. Take it for what it's worth, but hope it's coming soon!


Heads up to anyone (like me) who was looking to get the Deluxe 28 Ariens from Home Depot. My online flyer shows the blower for a price of $1399 now, but the website still shows $1119. I am hopefully going to get to HD sometime today to get one of these for the website price, if they have indeed adjusted the price in store.

I printed out the website page for reference.

I too noticed the Deluxe 28 $1,399 price in my new hard-copy flyer last night. Maybe HD is trying to set themselves up (i.e. protect) for any "20% off" sale in the future. The kicker is that $1,399 x .8 = $1,119.20 which is a couple of dimes more than the previous store-asking price of $1,119, if they have in fact now changed it to $1,399 in store. You gotta think the flyer is accurate.

That's why a few pages back (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/snowblower-thrower-deal-watch-thread-2011-12-a-1068827/18/#post13584865), I was pointing at the Sat. Oct. 8/11 10% Rona "scratch and save" PM opportunity at HD, where the Deluxe 28 would have been $1,119 x .9 = $1,007.10. Hopefully some RFD'ers scored this price.

[Phoenix3434]

You can't just assume everyone in this thread has a 2 car driveway. I have a 4 car driveway and live in NB (ie. snowstorms bring knee deep snow). I've had a crappy snow blower and it's amazingly frustrating to realize that even though you have a snow blower, shoveling might actually be faster because of how crappy the machine is.

I didn't assume that. That's why I said "But, my question is, for a typical Canadian driveway (2 car)...". My question was targeted at those who do have a 2 car space - which is for the most part. Sure, if you have a 4 car then it makes sense to buy a faster thrower.

Sort of like me asking "If all you do is surf the net and do word processing, do you really need a $1000 computer?".

Good point about location. Got to get rid of my GTA mentality :).


$500 is more like a cheap single stage, more like everyone is going for $1000+, if you read 10% of the thread you will know anything less powerful will not handle the pile left by the trucks at end of the driveway, if your going to buy a $200 might as well stay with a shovel.

Another good point. But you can use the shovel a bit when the city snow removal truck plows through, but for the rest of the driveway you can still use your thrower. Convenience vs money. Even though I have to say that the last few times the city did the road cleanup on my road, the pileup left was really not that bad. Think the cheapo $200 could easily deal with it.

[direct-x]

I am looking to make a purchase this weekend.

After going through most of the different manufacturers/models, I can't make a decision.

Is there any real difference in all these brands/models?

My budget is $1200 + taxes (Quebec 15%).

Toro, Ariens, Cub Cadet, Poulan, what's the real difference.

From what I have taken out of the thread, B&S engine is the way to go. 24-28 inch is the normal clearing width people go for.

I have no friggen idea what to purchase. Just want something that will last 7-10 years, requires minimal maintenance, has 2-3 year warranty, and has replacement parts easily available.

Any suggestions?

[NotMoneyGuy]

Just wondering if anyone posted this deal here...

Poulan Pro 136cc 21" - $198 @ WM

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/costco-gas-21-single-stage-snowthrower-379-198-wm-ymmv-1093719/


No.
By lili78 on Sep. 25 link (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/snowblower-thrower-deal-watch-thread-2011-12-a-1068827/8/#post13521409).

[NotMoneyGuy]

direct-x,

Quebec snow, parts availability, warranty, $1,200 budget, long-lasting = $1,119 Ariens Deluxe 28 at HD (match HD on-line).

Start off with that one in your head and let others, pricing, value etc. try to convince you otherwise. You will not be disappointed.

[Quanger]

Ariens deluxe 28 is $999 plus hst at www.ottawagoodtime.com

Is that a better price than the hd online price?

[f2chow]

There's a special order Snow-Tek blower at my HD in Halifax. It's not on their website, but is listed on the US HD website. Price in store was $499 and came assembled.

This is a TWO-Stage 24" blower with 136cc engine. Electric start. For those considering single stage snow shovels, this might be a good alternative. Only concern is with engine power, but the sales guy said given that it's a two-stage machine I'll be able to handle the worst of maritime snow falls ... I just might have to take it a bit slower compare for a 20x cc engine.

Here's the link, but again this is a special item some stores have ordered for the season.
http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202786977/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053

[NotMoneyGuy]

Ariens deluxe 28 is $999 plus hst at www.ottawagoodtime.com

Is that a better price than the hd online price?

That is a great price, but direct-x may have a hard time getting someone in Quebec to match an Ottawa store, may depend on distance and "local shopping area" or whatever excuse one may encounter.

BUT, in Ottawa - or anywhere you get it to work - convincing HD that the $999.95 is a regular (not sale) price, and then asking for meet and beat PM would give you $999.95 x .9 = $899.96 :).

Edit: I just called the Ottawa store to verify that the 28's are this year's model, he said yes and mentioned the integrated headlight. They're in stock "on the floor".

Edit 2: To make sure you are getting this year's Deluxe 28 with improved cast-iron gear box etc. you don't have to go into a sealed box to find out, just check the S/N, if it is 35000+ you're good.

[Samsonites]

That is a great price, but direct-x may have a hard time getting someone in Quebec to match an Ottawa store, may depend on distance and "local shopping area" or whatever excuse one may encounter.

BUT, in Ottawa - or anywhere you get it to work - convincing HD that the $999.95 is a regular (not sale) price, and then asking for meet and beat PM would give you $999.95 x .9 = $899.96 :).

Edit: I just called the Ottawa store to verify that the 28's are this year's model, he said yes and mentioned the integrated headlight. They're in stock "on the floor".

Edit 2: To make sure you are getting this year's Deluxe 28 with improved cast-iron gear box etc. you don't have to go into a sealed box to find out, just check the S/N, if it is 35000+ you're good.

NotMoneyGuy - when you called, did they say that was their regular price or sales price?

[NotMoneyGuy]

NotMoneyGuy - when you called, did they say that was their regular price or sales price?

I didn't ask him. But if you plan to PM at HD, bring a screen-shot print from the website that shows the price of $999.95 without the use of the word "sale" nor indicating a higher "regular" price.

Edit: Looks good! Here's a couple of fresh screen shots that indicate how they show a "sale" price on one of the two machines below. Looking at this, one would assume that the 28's $999.95 is "regular" price.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/NotMoneyGuy/Ottawa22.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/NotMoneyGuy/Ottawa28.jpg

[midget_man]

$500 is more like a cheap single stage, more like everyone is going for $1000+, if you read 10% of the thread you will know anything less powerful will not handle the pile left by the trucks at end of the driveway, if your going to buy a $200 might as well stay with a shovel.

Not so. I have a big ol' Ariens 2-stage but still bought the $200 Poulan. I don't always feel like hauling the 2-stage beast out for lighter snowfalls so I end up shoveling. The Ariens is huge, noisy and difficult to maneuver. Sure, it makes short work of deep snow and a hard packed windrow, but is overkill for 6 inches of snow. The more maneuverable single stage will be perfect for lighter snow and I'll be able to use it on my very large porch. No way my Ariens is getting up on the porch without a fork lift. So its really about having the right tool for the job. And if you had bothered to read the other thread, you would realize that the $198 price tag is a real steal. Its regularly $450 at Costco, and the re-branded Sears model is over $400 as well.

[Quanger]

So home depot will do a price match and offer 10% off?
Can anyone confirm this.

[pacman]

So home depot will do a price match and offer 10% off?
Can anyone confirm this.

That's what they did for me.

I bought a Toro 418ZR from HD. Their price was $499. A local competitor had it for $399. HD matched the price, and gave another 10% off the price, so I got it for $360

James

[Samsonites]

I didn't ask him. But if you plan to PM at HD, bring a screen-shot print from the website that shows the price of $999.95 without the use of the word "sale" nor indicating a higher "regular" price.

Edit: Looks good! Here's a couple of fresh screen shots that indicate how they show a "sale" price on one of the two machines below. Looking at this, one would assume that the 28's $999.95 is "regular" price.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/NotMoneyGuy/Ottawa22.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/NotMoneyGuy/Ottawa28.jpg

I called them up and they said those were their sales prices and that they will likely increase those prices in the next month. Not too sure what to believe.

[Lee C]

27"Poulan at TSC Stores 799
http://www.tscstores.com/Snow-Blowers-C71.aspx

[cadave]

So home depot will do a price match and offer 10% off?
Can anyone confirm this.

They will only offer an additional 10% off the competitor's price if it's the competitor's REGULAR price. If it's a competitor sale price, they will only match the price.

[financeg]

what do you guys think of this one, I'm thinking of buying one. I hope it's good for Quebec snow. Is the price right at 649?
Sno-Tek 24, 120v Electric Start, 24 Inch Clearing Width, Six Speed:

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

[pagal]

They will only offer an additional 10% off the competitor's price if it's the competitor's REGULAR price. If it's a competitor sale price, they will only match the price.

They Priced matched Goodtime and gave me the 10% on the 24" Compact Ariens, came to $755+tax, but Kanata had no stock so I have to wait for delivery, paid in full etc;)

[ndog2]

what do you guys think of this one, I'm thinking of buying one. I hope it's good for Quebec snow. Is the price right at 649?
Sno-Tek 24, 120v Electric Start, 24 Inch Clearing Width, Six Speed:

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

It's a nice snow blower and if the 24" size isn't limiting then it should handle Québec snow. But $649 is the regular price so at this point it's worth waiting for a deal since we still have a few more weeks before the snow starts.

[direct-x]

Most blowers are now on sale at Sears.

Any opinions on the Craftsman OHV winterized engine's vs the B&S engines?

I have it down to the following two models from Sears

1. Craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TG599)
2. Craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100)

or the Ariens Deluxe 28 at Home Depot for $120 more.

Any opinions between the two Sears models?

[pagal]

Most blowers are now on sale at Sears.

Any opinions on the Craftsman OHV winterized engine's vs the B&S engines?

I have it down to the following two models from Sears

1. Craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TG599)
2. Craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100)

or the Ariens Deluxe 28 at Home Depot for $120 more.

Any opinions between the two Sears models?

I was considering these, but EZ steer, 1st year introducing this feature and it is a mechanical clutch type feature that I want to stay away as it introduces another item that could jam or fail. They look well built and good bang foy r your buck, but decided to go with Ariens.

[tutchio]

I would stay away from crasftman to repair its a pain in the butt

I choose arien also


Most blowers are now on sale at Sears.

Any opinions on the Craftsman OHV winterized engine's vs the B&S engines?

I have it down to the following two models from Sears

1. Craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TG599)
2. Craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100)

or the Ariens Deluxe 28 at Home Depot for $120 more.

Any opinions between the two Sears models?

[Quanger]

So I've decided to probably go with the sno-tek 26" from ottawagoodtime. The only problem I have with it is that it does not come with an electric starter. I called ottawagoodtime and they said that the electric start is not available for that model (as it is a last year model). Is it possible to buy the electric starter kit? It's priced at $539.95+hst.
Is there a way to find out if an electric starter can be installed? Thanks.

[Quanger]

After a bit of research, I will get this years model instead (Sno-tek 24 electric start). With all the upgrades and electric start, I think it's worth the extra money.

[pagal]

After a bit of research, I will get this years model instead (Sno-tek 24 electric start). With all the upgrades and electric start, I think it's worth the extra money.

If you can afford another $200, the ariens price match from HD is a better machine. Cast iron gear etc, + B&S engine will go a long away.
I started with Sno-Tek as well, but when it is -25 and it does not start etc it becomes a liability:(

[rgilld]

They Priced matched Goodtime and gave me the 10% on the 24" Compact Ariens, came to $755+tax, but Kanata had no stock so I have to wait for delivery, paid in full etc;)

How did you get the 10% off given Goodtime shows the 24" on sale? Thanks.

[member2004]

what you guys think about 8 TP/24'' MURRAY from walmart? this is 205 cc briggs & stratron OHV. price is $598
thanks

[makker]

Any opinions on this Craftsman 30", B&S 13.5 (305 cc) engine? Last year's model (Model # 52948 in Canada, Model # 88761 in US) for $899. Seems a little heavy at 275 lbs. Do you think I would miss the EZ-Steer functions? Very few reviews on this model.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-dual-stage-mid-frame-snowblower-with-30-clearing-path/671-000088716-1695737

[pagal]

How did you get the 10% off given Goodtime shows the 24" on sale? Thanks.

Just asked for a pricematch 1st and the HD guys prompted the 10% as I knew the policy was on regular price, so I quickly took out my plastic and said charge me and I will pickup later and belted it :lol:

[Gutty96]

So I've decided to probably go with the sno-tek 26" from ottawagoodtime. The only problem I have with it is that it does not come with an electric starter. I called ottawagoodtime and they said that the electric start is not available for that model (as it is a last year model). Is it possible to buy the electric starter kit? It's priced at $539.95+hst.
Is there a way to find out if an electric starter can be installed? Thanks.

Just choke, prime 3 times and pull the cord. No need for the electric starter, it will start just fine without one.

[djemzine]

Saw the Murray 824ES and 824EX at WM for $598 and $748 respectively. Any thoughts? Cannot seem to find online reviews and such. Also saw at HD a Sno Tek 24" 136CC 2 stage on sale for $499 as opposed to $549. I.e. Model # 920404. I found it on the US website but not the Cdn website: http://www.homedepot.com/h_d1/N-5yc1v/R-202786977/h_d2/ProductDisplay?cm_mmc=CJ-_-4485850-_-10368321&selectedCatgry=SEARCH+ALL&jspStoreDir=hdus&catalogId=10053&navFlow=3&keyword=354780&Ntpc=1&langId=-1&Nu=P_PARENT_ID&storeId=10051&Ntpr=1&ddkey=Search&AID=10368321&PID=4485850&SID=u0t3271220f9fp0dd0c0s671&cj=true

Took a pic of the price tag though: http://i54.tinypic.com/351bho0.jpg

One other question I had, when it comes to servicing, which companies/retailers offer them? Lets say if I buy a snow blower from HD, WM, Sears, Lowes, CT, etc, do they service them, or do I have to go directly to the manufacturer, etc?

[jonnyboi]

anyone have any reviews or experience with the 24" Canadiana Dual Stage Snow Blower?
Currently on sale for $583 reg.$648

http://lowescanada.shoplocal.com/lowescanada/default.aspx?action=detail&flashbrowse=y&storeid=2626514&rapid=1290921&pagenumber=24&listingid=-2082418882&ref=%2flowescanada%2fdefault.aspx%3faction%3dbrows epageflash%26storeid%3d2626514%26pagenumber%3d24%2 6rapid%3d1290921%26prvid%3dLowesCanada-773811
http://www.canadianaproducts.ca/products/snowthrowers/detail/?id=62e928f712bf1f62d2a970d9c73da797
http://www.bsppwebtools.com/data/products/1696079_Canadiana_LF_lg.JPG

3 YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY
• 205cc OHV SnowSeries™ engine
• Electric start
• 3 forward, 1 reverse speed

[85bj60]

bump, snow is coming!:cheesygri

[ndog2]

what you guys think about 8 TP/24'' MURRAY from walmart? this is 205 cc briggs & stratron OHV. price is $598
thanks


Saw the Murray 824ES and 824EX at WM for $598 and $748 respectively. Any thoughts? Cannot seem to find online reviews and such. Also saw at HD a Sno Tek 24" 136CC 2 stage on sale for $499 as opposed to $549.

One other question I had, when it comes to servicing, which companies/retailers offer them? Lets say if I buy a snow blower from HD, WM, Sears, Lowes, CT, etc, do they service them, or do I have to go directly to the manufacturer, etc?


anyone have any reviews or experience with the 24" Canadiana Dual Stage Snow Blower?
Currently on sale for $583 reg.$648



B&S makes the murray and canadiana snowblowers the 24" models are the same snowblower in different paint and a longer warranty. They're not bad units at all maybe a little light on the features compared to what you can get on a sno-tek. Parts and service are easy to come by there are lots of B&S service dealers and stuff online. The B&S engine may be an advantage depending on who you ask.

That sno-tek is probably last years model with the smaller engine and no remote chute control.

None of the big retailers service anything(sears may but it's probably way overpriced); Most of the regular maintenance is simple diy stuff requiring only basic tools. If something major needs work or it's beyond your skill set you can look up a service place on the manufacturer's website. If you want to buy something at the same place you get service you'll have to find an independent OPE dealer that sells the brand you're looking at buying.

[Quanger]

The Sno-Tek 24" electric start is actually on sale for 599 at HD. Sale ends on the 26th and the reg. price is 649.

[sadrna]

The Sno-Tek 24" electric start is actually on sale for 599 at HD. Sale ends on the 26th and the reg. price is 649.

where did you see this? it still $649 online and at the Scarborough HD.

[saint2e]

I'm leaning towards the 24" Canadiana myself... I like the fact that it has a B&S engine, and I like to keep things simple as far as "features" go... Having the joystick to change the chute is just one more thing that can need repairs down the line, so a manual chute is fine by me. And I live in Kitchener, so hand warmers are a bit overkill.

That being said, the Sno-Tek 24" from Home Depot is tempting too... Currently debating back and forth... anyone have a smoking gun to help me decide? ;)

[pagal]

I'm leaning towards the 24" Canadiana myself... I like the fact that it has a B&S engine, and I like to keep things simple as far as "features" go... Having the joystick to change the chute is just one more thing that can need repairs down the line, so a manual chute is fine by me. And I live in Kitchener, so hand warmers are a bit overkill.

That being said, the Sno-Tek 24" from Home Depot is tempting too... Currently debating back and forth... anyone have a smoking gun to help me decide? ;)

The Candiana frame is made by John Deere, I was very very keen on buying this, also has a B&S engine + PLus LOwes had the Gift card rebate $100, so it was a good deal, but as this is a new line I swayed to Ariens, but they look like solid blowers. Met all my criteria (B&S engine, metal chute, chute control, swing and elevation).

[direct-x]

So is the Sno-Tek essentially a "stripped-down" version of the higher end Arien blower?

Are they both just as reliable, same type of construction, etc?

[ndog2]

The Candiana frame is made by John Deere, I was very very keen on buying this.

John Deere doesn't make their own snowblowers. They're built by B&S along with murray, canadiana, snapper, simplicity, brute, some craftsman, and B&S. They all share common frames and platforms based on the size then the different panels, parts and features are bolted on depending on how high up (ie snapper, simplicity and deere have more) the line is. They even share part numbers for the common pieces and most of the bolt on upgrades. You can order the parts to make your murray a john deere if you'd like.


I'm leaning towards the 24" Canadiana myself... Currently debating back and forth... anyone have a smoking gun to help me decide? ;)
I don't really think there is a smoking gun, maybe waiting for a big sale and letting price decide.


So is the Sno-Tek essentially a "stripped-down" version of the higher end Arien blower?

Are they both just as reliable, same type of construction, etc?

More like a value line the Ariens models have thicker steel in places and a more robust gear box and a LCT engine instead of b&s--although ariens has started putting LCT on some of their premium line so they must have confidence in it. They're both built in the same American factory and you can see the and compare the quality at HD. Little differences that wont matter for most people.

[saint2e]

Great. The Canadiana one is on for $583 at Lowes right now, so I may go snag that tonight.

[djemzine]

B&S makes the murray and canadiana snowblowers the 24" models are the same snowblower in different paint and a longer warranty. They're not bad units at all maybe a little light on the features compared to what you can get on a sno-tek. Parts and service are easy to come by there are lots of B&S service dealers and stuff online. The B&S engine may be an advantage depending on who you ask.

That sno-tek is probably last years model with the smaller engine and no remote chute control.

None of the big retailers service anything(sears may but it's probably way overpriced); Most of the regular maintenance is simple diy stuff requiring only basic tools. If something major needs work or it's beyond your skill set you can look up a service place on the manufacturer's website. If you want to buy something at the same place you get service you'll have to find an independent OPE dealer that sells the brand you're looking at buying.

Hmm, so what you are saying is to go with a snow blower with a Briggs&Stratton engine? As its easier to get serviced, etc? Is Murray a good brand actually? That's what I was trying to figure out. As for the retailers servicing it, ya I know that Sears does with their Craftsman line with the standard manufacturer warranty, so it shouldn't be an extra charge no? However I did read somewhere on this thread that Craftsman are not good brands. Basically I am looking to get a 24inch, dual stage, 6 speed with electric start gas snow blower. I thought that Sno Tek at HD was a good price.

I wish there was a website for those two Murray snow blowers at WM so I can get more info on them... ugh...

[Dolfan-Neil]

anyone have any reviews or experience with the 24" Canadiana Dual Stage Snow Blower?
Currently on sale for $583 reg.$648

http://lowescanada.shoplocal.com/lowescanada/default.aspx?action=detail&flashbrowse=y&storeid=2626514&rapid=1290921&pagenumber=24&listingid=-2082418882&ref=%2flowescanada%2fdefault.aspx%3faction%3dbrows epageflash%26storeid%3d2626514%26pagenumber%3d24%2 6rapid%3d1290921%26prvid%3dLowesCanada-773811
http://www.canadianaproducts.ca/products/snowthrowers/detail/?id=62e928f712bf1f62d2a970d9c73da797
http://www.bsppwebtools.com/data/products/1696079_Canadiana_LF_lg.JPG

3 YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY
• 205cc OHV SnowSeries™ engine
• Electric start
• 3 forward, 1 reverse speed

I bought my fatherinlaw a similar model last year, but his had 6 forward, 2 reverse gears.

Pros

Engine was superior (B&S) to my 3 year old Cub Cadet (Powermore Engine) - same 208 cc


Cons

No steering control, so harder to turn than my CC
No light, so removing snow when it was dark depended on street and house lighting
Gear change was in an awkward position (3/4s of the way down)
No throttle control
Chute control was only remote left and right left a lot to desire compared to the joystick control


All in all, a good little machine, I just wish it had some of the features I like as mentioned above. Although I would be concerned only about the 1 reverse gear, it may be too slow.

My 2 cents, hope it helps.

[djemzine]

Noob question, what is chute control remote left and right? I know that there's like a joystick or crank that you turn for the chute to go left or right. Is this the same thing or?

[ndog2]

Hmm, so what you are saying is to go with a snow blower with a Briggs&Stratton engine? As its easier to get serviced, etc? Is Murray a good brand actually? That's what I was trying to figure out. As for the retailers servicing it, ya I know that Sears does with their Craftsman line with the standard manufacturer warranty, so it shouldn't be an extra charge no? However I did read somewhere on this thread that Craftsman are not good brands. Basically I am looking to get a 24inch, dual stage, 6 speed with electric start gas snow blower. I thought that Sno Tek at HD was a good price.

I wish there was a website for those two Murray snow blowers at WM so I can get more info on them... ugh...

Not exactly. I'm saying they're decent snowblowers and that some people think you should have a B&S engine. Personally I'm not sure, the overseas built OHV engines have come a long way, more and more brands are using them even on high end products. In warranty stuff is free; I thought you were talking about out of warranty service work. For sno-tek or the murray just searching richmond hill on their respective websites comes up with about 10 difference places in and around richmond hill that are servicing locations for murray and ariens.

I suppose it comes down to in the budget category if you'd like more features sno-tek if you'd like a b&s engine murray or canadiana.

[djemzine]

Not exactly. I'm saying they're decent snowblowers and that some people think you should have a B&S engine. Personally I'm not sure, the overseas built OHV engines have come a long way, more and more brands are using them even on high end products. In warranty stuff is free; I thought you were talking about out of warranty service work. For sno-tek or the murray just searching richmond hill on their respective websites comes up with about 10 difference places in and around richmond hill that are servicing locations for murray and ariens.

I suppose it comes down to in the budget category if you'd like more features sno-tek if you'd like a b&s engine murray or canadiana.

Ah okay. Ya I was referring to in warranty stuff, i.e. taking it to a respective dealer for the snow blowers and such if anything does go wrong.

Is it possible to give me the exact link you found when looking up the Sno Tek or Murray in the Richmond Hill area? I'd appreciate it.

Thanks

[ndog2]

Ah okay. Ya I was referring to in warranty stuff, i.e. taking it to a respective dealer for the snow blowers and such if anything does go wrong.

Is it possible to give me the exact link you found when looking up the Sno Tek or Murray in the Richmond Hill area? I'd appreciate it.

Thanks

Sure, I suspect that any B&S dealer could probably work on the murray too; many of these locations are actually the same for both brands.

http://murray.via.infonow.net/locator/ or http://www.briggsandstratton.com/engines/support/dealer-locator/

http://www.ariensstore.com/locator/

[djemzine]

Sure, I suspect that any B&S dealer could probably work on the murray too; many of these locations are actually the same for both brands.

http://murray.via.infonow.net/locator/ or http://www.briggsandstratton.com/engines/support/dealer-locator/

http://www.ariensstore.com/locator/

Thanks. So let me get this sorted out, the Sno Tek blowers are powered by a B&S engine correct?

[ndog2]

Thanks. So let me get this sorted out, the Sno Tek blowers are powered by a B&S engine correct?

Nope they're powered by LCT engines (www.lctusa.com) the engines are made overseas but the snow blower itself is made in Wisconsin. You get a great warranty and all of the bells and whistles. Murray/Canadiana I think are made in the us too but it's unclear. They come with an entry level B&S snow series engine but all of the rest of the features are the bare minimum.

[djemzine]

Nope they're powered by LCT engines (www.lctusa.com) the engines are made overseas but the snow blower itself is made in Wisconsin. You get a great warranty and all of the bells and whistles. Murray/Canadiana I think are made in the us too but it's unclear. They come with an entry level B&S snow series engine but all of the rest of the features are the bare minimum.

Hmm, then I think I'll be leaning towards a Sno Tek from HD then. I did see few on sale yesterday within the $500 to $550 mark.

Update: I found this comment in a YouTube video "LCT engines are not better than Briggs and Stratton engines, not by a long shot. Cheap flimsy carb linkages on LCT engines are nothing compared to the robust design of Briggs carbs and linkages. LCT's have metal gas tanks which rust when gas sits in them during periods of non use....Briggs uses plastic fuel tanks, much better design."

[ndog2]

Hmm, then I think I'll be leaning towards a Sno Tek from HD then. I did see few on sale yesterday within the $500 to $550 mark.

Update: I found this comment in a YouTube video "LCT engines are not better than Briggs and Stratton engines, not by a long shot. Cheap flimsy carb linkages on LCT engines are nothing compared to the robust design of Briggs carbs and linkages. LCT's have metal gas tanks which rust when gas sits in them during periods of non use....Briggs uses plastic fuel tanks, much better design."


Nice, I think they represent a good value. Two things to watch out for: the 20" model is stripped down and lacks features in that case it may be better to look at one of the B&S made brands and get a 24" for about the same money/features. Last years 24"+ models had a smaller engine and lack the remote deflector control so check for those on any deal.

As for the update. I don't think lct is better but I don't think they're worse either. I can't speak to the carb linkages. It is true about the metal gas tanks but Honda engines also have metal gas tanks. It's just one of those things where some people debate. I think with proper maintenance any modern small engine is going to last well past the point where the rest of the blower starts to rust.

[djemzine]

Nice, I think they represent a good value. Two things to watch out for: the 20" model is stripped down and lacks features in that case it may be better to look at one of the B&S made brands and get a 24" for about the same money/features. Last years 24"+ models had a smaller engine and lack the remote deflector control so check for those on any deal.

As for the update. I don't think lct is better but I don't think they're worse either. I can't speak to the carb linkages. It is true about the metal gas tanks but Honda engines also have metal gas tanks. It's just one of those things where some people debate. I think with proper maintenance any modern small engine is going to last well past the point where the rest of the blower starts to rust.

Hmm. Ya the 24" Sno Tek at I saw at HD had all the features I was looking for, including 6 forward speed and 2 reverse speeds, but its a 138CC as opposed to the 208CC. What is the remote deflector control? Sorry to ask that. I did notice that there is one crank or lever to tilt the chute left/straight/right and one lever to adjust the top of the chute in terms of degrees. Do you think this model for $499 is a good price, considering its 138CC and might lack the remote deflector control?

Or I guess I pay $150 more and get this instead - http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481.

We will be getting it delivered of course, but is assembly easy to do or?

[ndog2]

Hmm. Ya the 24" Sno Tek at I saw at HD had all the features I was looking for, including 6 forward speed and 2 reverse speeds, but its a 138CC as opposed to the 208CC. What is the remote deflector control? Sorry to ask that. I did notice that there is one crank or lever to tilt the chute left/straight/right and one lever to adjust the top of the chute in terms of degrees. Do you think this model for $499 is a good price, considering its 138CC and might lack the remote deflector control?

Or I guess I pay $150 more and get this instead - http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481.

We will be getting it delivered of course, but is assembly easy to do or?

This years model has levers and cranks on the control panel that let you adjust the chute from left to right and the deflector up and down (deflector is the little flap on top of the chute it controls the vertical part of the throw) Last year's model you have to stop loosen wing nuts set the deflector then tighten the nuts. Unless you're going to buy one of the older models wait for a bit; it's still pretty early and HD hasn't really had a big snow blower sale yet, the last couple years they've had a gift card by mail in rebate and have matched lowe's 20% off deals.

Assembly is easy also most home depots let you rent a cargo van for $19.99/75 minutes so you can still bring one home even if your car is small.

[djemzine]

This years model has levers and cranks on the control panel that let you adjust the chute from left to right and the deflector up and down (deflector is the little flap on top of the chute it controls the vertical part of the throw) Last year's model you have to stop loosen wing nuts set the deflector then tighten the nuts. Unless you're going to buy one of the older models wait for a bit; it's still pretty early and HD hasn't really had a big snow blower sale yet, the last couple years they've had a gift card by mail in rebate and have matched lowe's 20% off deals.

Assembly is easy also most home depots let you rent a cargo van for $19.99/75 minutes so you can still bring one home even if your car is small.

Great tips to know. Thanks. Ya I think we'll hold off on a while, but when do the prices go up again? Will there be better sales comes November/December or? How about stock level then?

Ya the ones I saw yesterday did have levers and cranks on the control panel to adjust the just chute from left to right, and the deflector up and down. I can put up a YouTube link with the same model, but they show a 20inch, but it has the same stuff like in the 24 and 28 inches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkeTWYHJYwA

[ndog2]

Great tips to know. Thanks. Ya I think we'll hold off on a while, but when do the prices go up again? Will there be better sales comes November/December or? How about stock level then?

Ya the ones I saw yesterday did have levers and cranks on the control panel to adjust the just chute from left to right, and the deflector up and down. I can put up a YouTube link with the same model, but they show a 20inch, but it has the same stuff like in the 24 and 28 inches.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mkeTWYHJYwA

$649 is the regular price for the 24" model so if you're seeing a new 2011 24" model 920402 for $5xx then that would be some kind of sale price. The new models have 2 levers on control panel (plus the hand grip controls of course) and a crank just below. The 1:50 to 2:00 minute mark in that video show them. The crank is the left to right control the up/down level is deflector control and the side to side lever controls the speed. The old models lacked the up down level for the deflector. Usually there's a sale around the end of October / beginning of November. Once the snow starts tho they'll be harder to find and probably not on sale except for the holiday shopping period but usually not a better sale. It all depends on how the winter goes; if it's really snowy probably few sales if it's warmer and less snowy they'll want to get rid of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EvdcIWInVc that random youtube video shows the 2010 24" model. Control panel around 2:20 mark

[djemzine]

$649 is the regular price for the 24" model so if you're seeing a new 2011 24" model 920402 for $5xx then that would be some kind of sale price. The new models have 2 levers on control panel (plus the hand grip controls of course) and a crank just below. The 1:50 to 2:00 minute mark in that video show them. The crank is the left to right control the up/down level is deflector control and the side to side lever controls the speed. The old models lacked the up down level for the deflector. Usually there's a sale around the end of October / beginning of November. Once the snow starts tho they'll be harder to find and probably not on sale except for the holiday shopping period but usually not a better sale. It all depends on how the winter goes; if it's really snowy probably few sales if it's warmer and less snowy they'll want to get rid of them.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0EvdcIWInVc that random youtube video shows the 2010 24" model. Control panel around 2:20 mark

Hmm. The model that I saw i.e. 24" for $499 was on display at HD in Richmond Hill north location. They had tonnes of them in boxes behind 3 display units. The model # 920404. $549 was the original price. HD Canada doesn't have them up on their website, but apparently HD USA did. So isn't there something fishy about this or?

[ndog2]

Model 920404 is the one that was sold here last year, it's got the 136 cc engine and no remote deflector control. 920402 is the newer/current model with the remote deflector control and the 208cc engine. http://apache.ariens.com/manuals/04335200B_ENG.pdf Page 31 of the manual explains the differences between the models.

[direct-x]

Thanks for all the info in this thread.

I ended up pulling the trigger on the Ariens ST28LE Deluxe today. Having it shipped to my door. If HD has a sale, hopefully it will fall into the 30 day price protection window.

I figured the modest price premium was well worth it given the good reviews and features on this unit.

Just need it to snow now.

[djemzine]

Model 920404 is the one that was sold here last year, it's got the 136 cc engine and no remote deflector control. 920402 is the newer/current model with the remote deflector control and the 208cc engine. http://apache.ariens.com/manuals/04335200B_ENG.pdf Page 31 of the manual explains the differences between the models.

Cheers for the update. Shall take a look into the newer model then. So wait, all the remote deflector does is that instead of a lever/crank, its basically electronic on the control panel with buttons right? Isn't this just a preference or? The power of the engine, I can understand...

[Lee C]

Thanks for all the info in this thread.

I ended up pulling the trigger on the Ariens ST28LE Deluxe today. Having it shipped to my door. If HD has a sale, hopefully it will fall into the 30 day price protection window.

I figured the modest price premium was well worth it given the good reviews and features on this unit.

Just need it to snow now.If you don't mind How much was it 1119 Thanks

[chachu]

Thanks for all the info in this thread.

I ended up pulling the trigger on the Ariens ST28LE Deluxe today. Having it shipped to my door. If HD has a sale, hopefully it will fall into the 30 day price protection window.

I figured the modest price premium was well worth it given the good reviews and features on this unit.

Just need it to snow now.

Good choice . I ordered too on 14th still waiting for delivery ,called HD today ,was told it ships from US to Burlington and then Local.Not only 30 day price protection window from date of delivery but also 90 days free return window too ,if first window becomes narrower !!!!.

[clifftomas]

We have a two car driveway, in London, On., with a slight downslope to the road.
I'm thinking of a snow blower/thrower.
I have no idea how much I really need to spend. The Poulan thrower at Costco for $379 was interesting but
it might not be enough for the mounds of snow the plows leave at the road.
So I'm thinking of the Canadiana (http://www.lowes.ca/products/search.aspx?querytext=snow%20thrower) at lowes for $583.00
or the Snowtech (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480#BVRRWidgetID) ay HD for $549.00
Any thought? Am I missing any others in this price point?
Thanks.

[IcedUpSquirrel]

Hello everyone, I've been keeping a close eye on this thread ever since the meteorologists of the land have preemptively declared this winter in Vancouver will be the coldest in nearly twenty years. I'm not terribly well versed when it comes to snow blowers, and I've been trying to pick some things up along the way by reading your very helpful posts, but I was hoping for a little bit of advice.
I've got a two car driveway that's maybe about fifty feet long and twenty wide that slopes up towards the garage. I've been looking at a few models, but because we don't generally get much snow, I've primarily kept my focus towards single-stage snow blowers. The one I've been reading up is the Toro Power Clear 180 Snow Blower @ HD http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-clear-180-snow-blower/910387
Any feedback provided would be much appreciated!
Thanks!

[ndog2]

We have a two car driveway, in London, On., with a slight downslope to the road.
I'm thinking of a snow blower/thrower.
Thanks.
With the kind of snow London gets a two stage is probably a good idea. Read over the few pages for a discussion about the canadiana/murray vs sno-tek. The 20" ariens is stripped down look at the 24"


Hello everyone, I've been keeping a close eye on this thread ever since the meteorologists of the land have preemptively declared this winter in Vancouver.
Thanks!

Single stage is probably going to be enough for Vancouver. All of the toros are very good units. Another for consideration is the B&S single stage http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/SnowRemoval/Snowthrowers/PRD~0603762P/Briggs+%26+Stratton+Single-Stage+Snow+Thrower%2C+205+CC.jsp?locale=en

[Quanger]

Nope they're powered by LCT engines (www.lctusa.com) the engines are made overseas but the snow blower itself is made in Wisconsin. You get a great warranty and all of the bells and whistles. Murray/Canadiana I think are made in the us too but it's unclear. They come with an entry level B&S snow series engine but all of the rest of the features are the bare minimum.
Hmm, then I think I'll be leaning towards a Sno Tek from HD then. I did see few on sale yesterday within the $500 to $550 mark.

Update: I found this comment in a YouTube video "LCT engines are not better than Briggs and Stratton engines, not by a long shot. Cheap flimsy carb linkages on LCT engines are nothing compared to the robust design of Briggs carbs and linkages. LCT's have metal gas tanks which rust when gas sits in them during periods of non use....Briggs uses plastic fuel tanks, much better design."

HD has a sale that ends Oct 26 so you'd better hurry. Sno-Tek 24" 2011 model (208cc, remote deflector, steel chute, electric start) for $599. The Sno-tek 20" is also on sale for 549. The canadiana from lowes has less feature/power but offers a "made in USA" motor by briggs and straton. It is a smaller, entry level motor albeit made in the USA. I didn't mind going with an LCT simply because nearly all makes are now incorporating LCT made engines such as the reputable Husqvarna.

I bought a 24" sno-tek today and it took 30min to set up. Added some fuel and fired it up. Can't wait for the heavy white stuff to fall.

The other reason why I pulled the trigger is because I don't think the sales really get much better ($599 from $649) unless you can afford to wait until the end of winter for a clearance sale. Once snow falls, there will be a mad scramble.

[cavuu]

HD has a sale that ends Oct 26 so you'd better hurry. Sno-Tek 24" 2011 model (208cc, remote deflector, steel chute, electric start) for $599. The Sno-tek 20" is also on sale for 549. The canadiana from lowes has less feature/power but offers a "made in USA" motor by briggs and straton. It is a smaller, entry level motor albeit made in the USA. I didn't mind going with an LCT simply because nearly all makes are now incorporating LCT made engines such as the reputable Husqvarna.

I bought a 24" sno-tek today and it took 30min to set up. Added some fuel and fired it up. Can't wait for the heavy white stuff to fall.

The other reason why I pulled the trigger is because I don't think the sales really get much better ($599 from $649) unless you can afford to wait until the end of winter for a clearance sale. Once snow falls, there will be a mad scramble.
Where do you see the 24" SnoTek for $599? Online it show $649

[window shopper]

Where do you see the 24" SnoTek for $599? Online it show $649

can someone confirm this price? i went in store and online and i dont see this price..

[saint2e]

I also would like to know this. for $599 I will go and grab one now.

[dr_pepper]

Have been following this thread and there is lots of good info. But I'm looking to clarify one major question on single stage. Do all single stage "pull" the blower through the snow. Was at HD yesterday and saw a Toro that indicated this, but was surprised at the $$ as it was almost $750 and was under 170cc. I've seen a Poulan at Costco for $499. Not the one on the website as this one was higher cc - why the large discrepancy?

I'd like to find one that "pulls", with the remote for the discharge chute, 170+cc all for preferably under $500, but would go to $550. I'm in Calgary and I'm looking for a machine for frequent lighter snow clearing. I'm actually ok pulling out the shovel for the heavy snows - doing a crappy job with the shovel and then a clean up with the blower. We had frequent falls last year and I'm looking to get some time back to my evening vs slugging snow. Only a 2 car driveway, but on a corner lot with sidewalk all around. And a neighbor whos too friendly with better work hours. He was doing the sidewalk too often. So we'd go back and forth trying to out do and pay each other back for the help. Ended up with a couple sundays of 2 hours of shoveling to pay him back. Oh and a relatively steep driveway and the sidewalk too.

[midget_man]

Have been following this thread and there is lots of good info. But I'm looking to clarify one major question on single stage. Do all single stage "pull" the blower through the snow. Was at HD yesterday and saw a Toro that indicated this, but was surprised at the $$ as it was almost $750 and was under 170cc. I've seen a Poulan at Costco for $499. Not the one on the website as this one was higher cc - why the large discrepancy?

I'd like to find one that "pulls", with the remote for the discharge chute, 170+cc all for preferably under $500, but would go to $550. I'm in Calgary and I'm looking for a machine for frequent lighter snow clearing. I'm actually ok pulling out the shovel for the heavy snows - doing a crappy job with the shovel and then a clean up with the blower. We had frequent falls last year and I'm looking to get some time back to my evening vs slugging snow. Only a 2 car driveway, but on a corner lot with sidewalk all around. And a neighbor whos too friendly with better work hours. He was doing the sidewalk too often. So we'd go back and forth trying to out do and pay each other back for the help. Ended up with a couple sundays of 2 hours of shoveling to pay him back. Oh and a relatively steep driveway and the sidewalk too.

May not fit your 170CC+ criteria, but you may be able to overlook that for $300 less than your budget dicatates.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/costco-gas-21-single-stage-snowthrower-379-198-wm-ymmv-1093719/

[project240]

May not fit your 170CC+ criteria, but you may be able to overlook that for $300 less than your budget dicatates.

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/costco-gas-21-single-stage-snowthrower-379-198-wm-ymmv-1093719/

Not available here in Calgary. Dr_Pepper... sounds like we're looking for the same unit. Larger single stage, decent price.

I've been keeping my eye on the stores and will probably wait to pull the trigger until there's a bit of a sale (hopefully soon).

[dingmah]

Not available here in Calgary. Dr_Pepper... sounds like we're looking for the same unit. Larger single stage, decent price.

I've been keeping my eye on the stores and will probably wait to pull the trigger until there's a bit of a sale (hopefully soon).
I purchased this last week, Sears CRAFTSMAN®/MD 22'' 205cc Single Stage Snow Blower (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932), which is the same as Power Clear 621QZE Single Stage Snow Blower (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621qze-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/960185)

Largest single stage available with the most features, and at the lowest price for now. Unless you're willing to wait until the spring when it goes on clearance. Same machine as the Toro/Canadian Tire B&S/Canadiana/Murray versions.

[BinaryJay]

I purchased this last week, Sears CRAFTSMAN®/MD 22'' 205cc Single Stage Snow Blower (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932), which is the same as Power Clear 621QZE Single Stage Snow Blower (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621qze-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/960185)

Largest single stage available with the most features, and at the lowest price for now. Unless you're willing to wait until the spring when it goes on clearance. Same machine as the Toro/Canadian Tire B&S/Canadiana/Murray versions.

My problem with this is that as soon as you buy it another $50 sears coupon will pop up. :P

[ndog2]

Largest single stage available with the most features, and at the lowest price for now. Unless you're willing to wait until the spring when it goes on clearance. Same machine as the Toro/Canadian Tire B&S/Canadiana/Murray versions.

Toro isn't the same they make their own, but B&S manufacturers the rest of the them and they are the same machine with different housing. The only way to get a Toro is to buy one.


Have been following this thread and there is lots of good info. But I'm looking to clarify one major question on single stage. Do all single stage "pull" the blower through the snow. Was at HD yesterday and saw a Toro that indicated this, but was surprised at the $$ as it was almost $750 and was under 170cc. I've seen a Poulan at Costco for $499. Not the one on the website as this one was higher cc - why the large discrepancy?


There are B&S made models like the sears model digmah linked. B&S makes it for a number of stores under different brands
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/SnowRemoval/Snowthrowers/PRDOVR~0603762P/Briggs+%26+Stratton+Single-Stage+Snow+Thrower%2C+205+CC.jsp?locale=en Canadian tire version
http://www.canadianaproducts.ca/products/snowthrowers/detail/?id=295117ac2a0773a2c0492d183f960333 Lowe's version

MTD makes a bunch as well that are similar but some models lack remote chute control
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/208cc-ohv-21-inch-single-stage-cub-cadet-snow-thrower/942306 Home depot version
http://www.rona.ca/shop/~snowblower-white-outdoor-497826_winter-season_shop Rona version
http://homehardware.ca/en/rec/index.htm/Outdoor-Living/Yard-Maintenance/Snow-Removal-Aids/Power-Tools/Gas-Snow-Throwers/THROWER-SNOW-179CC-21-AS2S5E/_/N-2pqfZ67l/Ne-67n/No-48/Ntk-All_EN/R-I5554956?Ntt=snow+blower&Num=0 Home Hardware version

There are more choices if you're looking under 170cc but above 170cc those (or variations of those) are about it. You can pick the brand you want and keep watching sales.

[Quanger]

Today is the last day of the sno-tek 24" for $599.
Go to homedepot.ca
Click on eflyer
click on category
click on exterior products
and you'll see this:

SNO-TEK ™ 24" 2-Stage Snow Thrower
Product ID: 1000671257
Price: NOW $599

Equipped with 120V electric start
WAS $649

+ NO INTEREST IF PAID IN FULL WITHIN 12 MONTHS*

This is the last day so I hope you guys can find an HD with a few in stock.

[Quanger]

We have a two car driveway, in London, On., with a slight downslope to the road.
I'm thinking of a snow blower/thrower.
I have no idea how much I really need to spend. The Poulan thrower at Costco for $379 was interesting but
it might not be enough for the mounds of snow the plows leave at the road.
So I'm thinking of the Canadiana (http://www.lowes.ca/products/search.aspx?querytext=snow%20thrower) at lowes for $583.00
or the Snowtech (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480#BVRRWidgetID) ay HD for $549.00
Any thought? Am I missing any others in this price point?
Thanks.

I'd seriously check out the sno-tek 24" that's on sale for $599 (last day is today) at HD. It's more than the sno-tek 20" but offers a better gear box, remote chute, and just overall much studier. I mean for $50 more, I think the choice is easy.
I bought mine yesterday for $599 and 2/3 HD were sold out.

[CHIA]

Quanger - Do you work for sno-tek?? Quite the promotion of the model.

[direct-x]

Today is the last day of the sno-tek 24" for $599.
Go to homedepot.ca
Click on eflyer
click on category
click on exterior products
and you'll see this:

SNO-TEK ™ 24" 2-Stage Snow Thrower
Product ID: 1000671257
Price: NOW $599

Equipped with 120V electric start
WAS $649

+ NO INTEREST IF PAID IN FULL WITHIN 12 MONTHS*

This is the last day so I hope you guys can find an HD with a few in stock.

Not seeing this anywhere in the eflyer.

[ndog2]

Cheers for the update. Shall take a look into the newer model then. So wait, all the remote deflector does is that instead of a lever/crank, its basically electronic on the control panel with buttons right? Isn't this just a preference or? The power of the engine, I can understand...

No both still have the crank, it moves the chute from left to right but the deflector is the little flap on the top of the chute that controls the vertical throw you'll adjust this as the snow banks grow so you can get snow on top of them. On the 04 model you have to stop throwing snow and adjust by loosing wing nuts on the flap itself. On the 02 model you can adjust it from the control panel while throwing snow so you can see via the snow how high you need to be and not just guess.



Today is the last day of the sno-tek 24" for $599.
Go to homedepot.ca
Click on eflyer
click on category
click on exterior products
and you'll see this:


This is probably the best price we'll see before clearance time unless Lowe's does the 20% off thing again. It's very strange they didn't change the price online maybe the sale is only in select markets and not nation-wide.


Not seeing this anywhere in the eflyer.
With a Montréal postal code on page 14 there's no picture but under the 20" sno-tek it says:


Souffleuse à neige 24 po à deux phases SNO-TEK MC
Prix: MAINTENANT 599 $
Nombre de Produit: 1000671257
Avec démarreur électrique 120 V
ÉTAIT 649 $
AUCUN INTÉRÊT SI PAYÉ EN ENTIER AVANT 12 MOIS*

[arias86]

I'm interested in getting this for my dad..however I don't know much about snow blowers. Our garage fits 6 cars (3 across)..

does anyone know if this would this be large enough to get the job done in a reasonable time? I saw some reviews that said this is a smaller snow blower.

thanks for any input.





I'd seriously check out the sno-tek 24" that's on sale for $599 (last day is today) at HD. It's more than the sno-tek 20" but offers a better gear box, remote chute, and just overall much studier. I mean for $50 more, I think the choice is easy.
I bought mine yesterday for $599 and 2/3 HD were sold out.

[arias86]

Also, which one of these would you guys recommend?

CRAFTSMAN®/MD 22'' 205cc Single Stage Snow Blower for $549
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932?extid=affiliate_comj#BVRRWidgetID

OR

Sno-Tek 24, 120v Electric Start, 24 Inch Clearing Width, Six Speed for $599
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

[seabird]

for those of you looking for a single stage...save your time and buy a toro. i've had them all from honda's, ariens and craftsman and nothing comes close to a toro. they just throw snow better than any single i've owned. the best model i've used is the 2450...great machine that could throw snow, slush and even water. i liked it better than the 221.

[ivorm]

I'm interested in getting this for my dad..however I don't know much about snow blowers. Our garage fits 6 cars (3 across)..

does anyone know if this would this be large enough to get the job done in a reasonable time? I saw some reviews that said this is a smaller snow blower.

thanks for any input.

How long is your driveway?

[cavuu]

Today is the last day of the sno-tek 24" for $599.
Go to homedepot.ca
Click on eflyer
click on category
click on exterior products
and you'll see this:

SNO-TEK ™ 24" 2-Stage Snow Thrower
Product ID: 1000671257
Price: NOW $599

Equipped with 120V electric start
WAS $649

+ NO INTEREST IF PAID IN FULL WITHIN 12 MONTHS*

This is the last day so I hope you guys can find an HD with a few in stock.
Although it does show $599 using your instructions it comes up as $649 when you try to order.

You are now chatting with Noelle.
Noelle: Welcome to The Home Depot. How may I assist you today?
Me: When going to the flyer and selecting exterior products the Sno-Tek 24, 120v comes up as $599 but when I go to the product it is 649
Noelle: I'll be happy to help you!
Noelle: May I have the model number of this item, please?
Me: Model: 920402 | Internet/Cat: 918481 | Store SKU: 1000671257
Noelle: Let me check that for you. It will take just a moment.

Noelle: Thank you for holding. The snow blower that is in the flyer is not the same item that you have shown me.
Noelle: The snow blower model number that you provided me is $649.00.
Me: Go to homedepot.ca Click on eflyer click on category click on exterior products and you'll see this: SNO-TEK ™ 24" 2-Stage Snow Thrower Product ID: 1000671257 Price: NOW $599
Me: It's not in the flyer photo but is in the list re above instructions
Noelle: Yes, I am checking on this now. I appreciate your patience.
Noelle: Each time that I try to replicate this using your local area, I get that it is product ID: 1000671261 that is on sale for $549.
Noelle: This is a 20" 2 stage snow thrower.
Me: The only way to see this is to use the drop down list under Catagories and select Exterior products
Noelle: I do see this now.
Noelle: Thank you.
Noelle: I suggest that you call customer service to inquire about a price match on this item.

[pixelguy]

[QUOTE=cavuu;13658886]Although it does show $599 using your instructions it comes up as $649 when you try to order.

FYI....I picked one up today at HD in woodbridge and you don't need to deal with customer service, it rings up at the register for $599.

[753951]

for those of you looking for a single stage...save your time and buy a toro. i've had them all from honda's, ariens and craftsman and nothing comes close to a toro. they just throw snow better than any single i've owned. the best model i've used is the 2450...great machine that could throw snow, slush and even water. i liked it better than the 221.

Out of curiosity, when did you test all these models? Just recently (this/last year), or are you talking about models over longer period?

[Metroplex]

If any Air Miles collectors are considering buying from Sear's, do yourself a favour and buy online from airmilesshops.ca to get the Miles. You get 1 mile per $20 spent...even more if there is a promo on at the time of purchase. You can still pick it up at your local store or have it delivered to your house.

[snider]

Anyone else a little bit apprehensive about the Chinese engine that's in the Sno-Tek? Trying to decide on the $600 Sno-Tek or the true 24" Ariens for $939 at Good Times Centre in Ottawa.

[cruzine]

I'd seriously check out the sno-tek 24" that's on sale for $599 (last day is today) at HD. It's more than the sno-tek 20" but offers a better gear box, remote chute, and just overall much studier. I mean for $50 more, I think the choice is easy.
I bought mine yesterday for $599 and 2/3 HD were sold out.


Quanger - Do you work for sno-tek?? Quite the promotion of the model.

Huh?! Are you quite the conspiracy theorist? I guess I should assume you work for a competing brand?! :facepalm:

I don't see anywhere that the poster promoting the Sno-Tek's being a better machine than other competing brands, and BTW Sno-Tek is just a lower end Ariens, not another company.
As far as I can see, the poster is simply stating a sale is ending soon, and for $50 more the 24" model offers a lot more value than it's smaller 20" sibling.

[CodF4ther]

Today is the last day of the sno-tek 24" for $599.
Go to homedepot.ca
Click on eflyer
click on category
click on exterior products
and you'll see this:

SNO-TEK ™ 24" 2-Stage Snow Thrower
Product ID: 1000671257
Price: NOW $599

Equipped with 120V electric start
WAS $649

+ NO INTEREST IF PAID IN FULL WITHIN 12 MONTHS*

This is the last day so I hope you guys can find an HD with a few in stock.


How does this work? you just go into the store and ask for the discounted price?

[saint2e]

Apparently it rings up at $599 at the register.

[project240]

Out of curiosity, when did you test all these models? Just recently (this/last year), or are you talking about models over longer period?

Curious about this as well. I think a single stage will work better in my situation, however, want to make sure I get a good machine and hopefully a great price.

[Quanger]

I don't work for Sno-tek.
I'm just trying to let you guys know that you can get it for pretty cheap. I did some research before buying and happened to stumble across HD's sale. It is weird since there is no mention or picture of the 24" on the paper flyer itself, it is only on line through eflyer. I really found out about this when I was on my iphone HD app and was scrolling and found it. Either way, it rang in at $599 so I really didn't have to talk to them.

I was actually looking at last years model which you can still get for a bargain at www.ottawagoodtimes.com. I'm just not sure why their 24" is more expensive than the larger 26". But not having an electric start, remote chute, and steel chute were the deal breaker.

[direct-x]

I called in today for my father in law who was also in the market for a new blower. CS rep had a very hard time following and finding that the 24 inch details were embedded in the print of the 20 inch sale ad. I got the same story that I was looking at the wrong model, etc, etc. After about 20 minutes on the phone, and being put on hold 4-5 times, the rep finally confirmed with a manager that I could have it for the $599 price point. Total came to $751 with shipping and taxes.

[djemzine]

Where do you see the 24" SnoTek for $599? Online it show $649

+1 was going to ask as well.. Its $649


Also, which one of these would you guys recommend?

CRAFTSMAN®/MD 22'' 205cc Single Stage Snow Blower for $549
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932?extid=affiliate_comj#BVRRWidgetID

OR

Sno-Tek 24, 120v Electric Start, 24 Inch Clearing Width, Six Speed for $599
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

Still says $649, and even called in store. Called up Home Depot at Richmond Hill North, the customer service lady said it shows up at $649 in their system as its brand new and I said that others whom I know (I lied) bought it today, said they got it for $600 when they rang it up at the register. Unless they rectified the problem?

[seabird]

Out of curiosity, when did you test all these models? Just recently (this/last year), or are you talking about models over longer period?

I've been using these models over the past 8 years or so. My first was a new arien 722 and then I moved to a number of different toros from the ccr1000, ccr2000, ccr3000, 2450, 3650, 221, Honda 621 and a mastercraft that I can't recall the model number. I typically buy, restore and then sell. I'm not doing this as much now a days however if i was able to get one machine back or opportunity to find a new one it would be the 2450. I don't have as much experience with the 4 stoke toros but based on my past experience, would not hesitate to buy one.

[direct-x]

+1 was going to ask as well.. Its $649



Still says $649, and even called in store. Called up Home Depot at Richmond Hill North, the customer service lady said it shows up at $649 in their system as its brand new and I said that others whom I know (I lied) bought it today, said they got it for $600 when they rang it up at the register. Unless they rectified the problem?

Does this help?

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6440/screenshot20111025at159.png

[wilsonlam97]

Anyone else a little bit apprehensive about the Chinese engine that's in the Sno-Tek? Trying to decide on the $600 Sno-Tek or the true 24" Ariens for $939 at Good Times Centre in Ottawa.


There's nothing wrong with engines built in China. Just depends on which factory it came from and the workmanship. It should be decent.

[djemzine]

Does this help?

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6440/screenshot20111025at159.png

Well that's the HD in French or in Montreal. I am visiting the English version of the site/ in Ontario and I am getting this: http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481. So unless that print screen you gave, and when I take that into the store and show it to them and if it works, then its helpful.

http://i39.tinypic.com/141607t.jpg

[djemzine]

Does this help?

http://img403.imageshack.us/img403/6440/screenshot20111025at159.png

Well that's the HD in French or in Montreal. I am visiting the English version of the site/ in Ontario and I am getting this: http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481. So unless that print screen you gave, and when I take that into the store and show it to them and if it works, then its helpful.

http://i39.tinypic.com/141607t.jpg

Hmm, update: Checked the E-flyer in Ontario, and under the 20" Sno Tek model for $549, in small writing "24" equipped with 120V electric start (1000671257) now $599 was $649. So why are the stores when one calls up or the regular link lie?

Another update: Called again, and told them about the E flyer/Weekly flyer, and the person checked with the manager and if I wanted that price, I'd have to order it on the phone and pick it up in store tomorrow... Something not right here... Hmm...

[snider]

There's nothing wrong with engines built in China. Just depends on which factory it came from and the workmanship. It should be decent.

Thanks, hope you're right. I ended up getting the last boxed one at the Barrhaven HD. Funny when the associate entered the sku into the computer it showed $649 but when I went to pay for it, it rung up at $599 (he was going to do a price adjustment anyways). All things considered, I think this is a decent purchase without breaking the bank. Thanks guys.

[direct-x]

Here is the english e-flyer ad. Notice the small print half way down the advertisement of the Sno-tek 20 inch

http://img24.imageshack.us/img24/172/screenshot20111025at948.png (http://imageshack.us/photo/my-images/24/screenshot20111025at948.png/)

[djemzine]

Here is the english e-flyer ad. Notice the small print half way down the advertisement of the Sno-tek 20 inch



Ya I read that as mentioned in my post above, but what's funny is that, I called up two locations in my town, one corrected themselves, saying yes its $599 on sale, which ends tomorrow. The other store (Richmond Hill North) claims its still not :P

Ah... how hilarious.

[project240]

I'm going to check out a used (1 year) Toro 210E tomorrow. Anything in specific to look for with a used model? What would be a good price for this machine? I can't really find anything online besides this http://www.snowblowersdirect.com/Toro-38593-Snow-Thrower/p5064.html showing the product as discontinued, but with a price of about $650-$700 CDN new. I'm assuming it would be fairly comparable to the new 621 model, except 2 cycle instead of 4 cycle.

[dr_pepper]

So pretty sure the Costco model I saw was the 208cc PR621ES for $499. So question is - is the Toro Power Clear 621QZE worth the extra $300?? How hard is it going to be to get parts and service the Poulan. For $300, I can live without the remote chute control. And then for $599 price range is the Canadian Tire 205cc. Found this for any interested as well:


http://i1098.photobucket.com/albums/g361/kezagger/Untitled.jpg

[djemzine]

I'm going to check out a used (1 year) Toro 210E tomorrow. Anything in specific to look for with a used model? What would be a good price for this machine? I can't really find anything online besides this http://www.snowblowersdirect.com/Toro-38593-Snow-Thrower/p5064.html showing the product as discontinued, but with a price of about $650-$700 CDN new. I'm assuming it would be fairly comparable to the new 621 model, except 2 cycle instead of 4 cycle.

On the link, that's pretty expensive for a discontinued model. How much are you looking to spend on the used 1 year model? Might as well go for brand new for a dual stage eh

[saint2e]

For those wondering about the Sno-Tek 24", I went to the Home Depot in Waterloo and had them scan it in. It scans at $599. Just ask them to scan it prior to buying to confirm.

[djemzine]

For those wondering about the Sno-Tek 24", I went to the Home Depot in Waterloo and had them scan it in. It scans at $599. Just ask them to scan it prior to buying to confirm.

Cheers, will keep that in mind. Will be picking up one tomorrow at one of the two locations after work.

[ndog2]

I'm going to check out a used (1 year) Toro 210E tomorrow. Anything in specific to look for with a used model?
Make sure it starts easily and runs. Take a look at the rubber on the paddles and the scraper bar. They should be in good shape if it's only a year old but if it was run hard or used commercially they could be worn out. Get at least an extra $100 off the price if they need to be replaced. I'd probably offer somewhere in the $300s and go from there.


Thanks, hope you're right. I ended up getting the last boxed one at the Barrhaven HD. Funny when the associate entered the sku into the computer it showed $649 but when I went to pay for it, it rung up at $599 (he was going to do a price adjustment anyways). All things considered, I think this is a decent purchase without breaking the bank. Thanks guys.

I wouldn't worry about the Chinese engine they're showing up more and more in even higher end products. Any small engine these days if you maintain it, it should last beyond the point where the rest of the snowblower is rusting.

[project240]

On the link, that's pretty expensive for a discontinued model. How much are you looking to spend on the used 1 year model? Might as well go for brand new for a dual stage eh

I don't need a 2 stage in my situation. I'm pretty sure a larger single stage will work fine for my needs. I'm just trying to determine if it's worth it to buy a slightly used (they said 6 times last year, probably means 15+) machine rather than new. We bought a new house last year and I've been constantly buying new toys... If I can save a bit on a good used machine, I'll go for it, if not, I'd rather buy new.

Also, trying to figure out which current model it would be most comparable with. I'm thinking probably this one http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621-e-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/959609 again, the biggest difference being 2 vs 4 cycle.

[chachu]

Arien 28 dlx is showing 1399 on today's HD flyer but still 1119 HD online .? What's the catch.

[smuPoker]

Besides the obvious price difference, is there a reason why almost everyone is opting for the 24" Sno-tek as opposed to the 28" Sno-tek?

[cavuu]

Besides the obvious price difference, is there a reason why almost everyone is opting for the 24" Sno-tek as opposed to the 28" Sno-tek?
It's smaller and will fit through the door of my garden shed for summer storage, takes less room in the garage. Smaller and easier to handle and will only require 1 more run down the driveway than the 28 inch. Both have the same engine.

[snider]

Besides the obvious price difference, is there a reason why almost everyone is opting for the 24" Sno-tek as opposed to the 28" Sno-tek?


The smaller footprint is ideal for me as well since I'll be storing it in my single-car garage. I only have a single lane driveway as well which the 24" would be sufficient for. If I had more space I would have gone with the 28" Ariens deluxe from GoodTimes for $999.

[saint2e]

Echoing the other posters. I've got a single car garage, double car driveway... So storage is more of a concern than trips up and down the driveway.

[smuPoker]

I just got back from my Home Depot. The Ariens 28 Deluxe was still tagged at 1119 (got the last one).
Also huge YMMV, but there was a Sno-tek 24 on display just before the snowblower section and it had a clearance price of 499 (while quantities last). I think it may have been last year's model because the chute had a handle on it, and the Sno-tek 24 in the proper snow blower section did not.

[saint2e]

Finally pulled the trigger on the 24" Sno-Tek from Home Depot.

I'll probably put it together tonight or tomorrow night. now I gotta sell the huge old one on Kijiji!

[753951]

Can someone with single stage blower tell me how log does rubber auger last before it needs replacement?

[pixelguy]

I guess I should've read the fine print...

Don't know if this is the case with all other retailers but I ordered a single-stage blower from sears.ca online, a few days past (4 to be exact) and I changed my mind and wanted to go with a two-stage(from HomeDepot) so I called and cancelled the sears order (still hadn't picked up my order)....sears customer service said that I had only 72hrs to cancel the order and that she was going to charge me 20% restocking fee!!! For an item that I didn't even pickup yet and they are going to charge me $120!!! I asked to speak to manager but she said no-one was here and to just email sears.ca with a complaint....I asked if this is the same policy in store (buy a blower for a gift...decide to return in unopen box...etc)...she said doesn't matter 20% fee still applies even if unopen!

Does HD or others charge this 20% restocking fee on unopen items for snow blowers?? That's crazy....just wanted to give you the heads up if you decide to order any blowers from sears!

Sears just lost a customer for life!.... 100% satisfaction gauranteed*

*less 20% restock fee

[project240]

If that's the case, why not pick it up and immediately return it. "It was supposed to be a gift, they have a snowblower already..."

I can't see anywhere on their policy where it says you can/will be charged a restocking fee.

[dr_pepper]

Most stores actually have a restocking fee in the fine print but seldom chose to charge it. Particularly if you return it packaged appropriately with all manuals etc. I think you got a rep having a bad day. I'd look into returning to a store or getting a hold of someone more senior by phone. Keep us updated if you have no luck as well. Then you can refer sears to this site and all their lost business for a crappy policy

[pixelguy]

If that's the case, why not pick it up and immediately return it. "It was supposed to be a gift, they have a snowblower already..."

I can't see anywhere on their policy where it says you can/will be charged a restocking fee.

Online, on their return policy it has this down the page...

Major Appliances, Outdoor Power equipment, Seasonal products and Fitness equipment Exchange or refund within 30 days

Purchases may be cancelled within 72 hours of order placement without a restocking fee, after 72 hours a 10% restocking fee will be applied to Major Appliances, and a 20% restocking fee will apply to other categories listed.
No returns on installed product which has not been installed by a Sears technician.

I'm going to try someone senior tomorrow and if that doesn't work I'll pick it up and return it and see how that goes...

[project240]

Best of luck to you! Keep us posted.

[seabird]

Can someone with single stage blower tell me how log does rubber auger last before it needs replacement?

under normal use i would guess at least 5 years.

[djemzine]

Just picked up the Sno Tek 24" on sale for $600 at HD, took advantage of the 12 month no interest as well. They had 2 in stock, i.e. floor models, but the seasonal dept rep helped us out by ordering one for us when more stock comes in, which is a week or so.

Great buy for sure.

[jonnyboi]

Just got back from my local HD. I broke down and bought the Sno Tek 24 instead of going for the Canadiana 24" at Lowes.
I didnt like the handle for the Canadiana, the lack of controls and speed adjustment on the motor itself.
The Snotek 24 was just what I was looking for. I was a little hesitant at first because of the "Chinese made" engine, where as the Canadiana B&S USA made engine.

I knew that HD had a 'price match' policy of "comparable" products, so with the SnoTek 24 @ $599 and the Canadiana going for $583, I figured i'd try and save myself the $16.

When I asked the service desk for the price match, they let me know that they will beat the price 10% if the "regular" price is cheaper than theirs.
Snotek 24 Regular price: $649
Canadiana 24 Regular price: $648

So I ended up paying $518.20 (before taxes) for my SnoTek 24!! :D

Was pleasantly surprised! They didn't have any in stock but are expecting delivery Nov. 24.

Does anyone know if my 30day price protection starts the day I pay for it? or when I take delivery??


Thanks! :)

[djemzine]

Just got back from my local HD. I broke down and bought the Sno Tek 24 instead of going for the Canadiana 24" at Lowes.
I didnt like the handle for the Canadiana, the lack of controls and speed adjustment on the motor itself.
The Snotek 24 was just what I was looking for. I was a little hesitant at first because of the "Chinese made" engine, where as the Canadiana B&S USA made engine.

I knew that HD had a 'price match' policy of "comparable" products, so with the SnoTek 24 @ $599 and the Canadiana going for $583, I figured i'd try and save myself the $16.

When I asked the service desk for the price match, they let me know that they will beat the price 10% if the "regular" price is cheaper than theirs.
Snotek 24 Regular price: $649
Canadiana 24 Regular price: $648

So I ended up paying $518.20 (before taxes) for my SnoTek 24!! :D

Was pleasantly surprised! They didn't have any in stock but are expecting delivery Nov. 24.

Does anyone know if my 30day price protection starts the day I pay for it? or when I take delivery??


Thanks! :)

Few things:

(1) How can they PM that one at Lowes which is a different brand? Same features/specs or? Usually they only PM same brands, don't they?
(2) Do you think I can do that, even though I already bought my Sno Tek today at HD? Curious how you got the $518 before taxes if its 10% off the difference

Also got a link to the Canadiana snow blower at Lowes.ca?

Hmm the chute deflector on the Canadiana is manual, tsk tsk :P. The Sno Tek is remote controlled :)

[jonnyboi]

Few things:

(1) How can they PM that one at Lowes which is a different brand? Same features/specs or? Usually they only PM same brands, don't they?
(2) Do you think I can do that, even though I already bought my Sno Tek today at HD? Curious how you got the $518 before taxes if its 10% off the difference

Also got a link to the Canadiana snow blower at Lowes.ca?

Hmm the chute deflector on the Canadiana is manual, tsk tsk :P. The Sno Tek is remote controlled :)

Here is the Canadiana @ Lowes:
http://lowescanada.shoplocal.com/lowescanada/default.aspx?action=detail&flashbrowse=y&storeid=2626514&rapid=1290921&pagenumber=24&listingid=-2082418882&ref=%2flowescanada%2fdefault.aspx%3faction%3dbrows epageflash%26storeid%3d2626514%26pagenumber%3d24%2 6rapid%3d1290921%26prvid%3dLowesCanada-773811

1) I was told by my HD that they will price match any "comparable" product.
2) I am not sure? You might be able to for their 'price protection' policy?

I will upload the order for you, and maybe it will help you out:

http://i41.tinypic.com/1j2p7b.jpg

[djemzine]

1) I was told by my HD that they will price match any "comparable" product.
2) I am not sure? You might be able to for their 'price protection' policy?

I will upload the order for you, and maybe it will help you out:

http://i41.tinypic.com/1j2p7b.jpg

Hmm, this is what they say according to their website:


We beat everyday prices by 10%. If you find a lower regular price on an identical in-stock item at any retail location of a local competitor in Canada, just bring us the confirmation of the lower price and we'll BEAT that price by 10%.

Their sale price is our price. Bring us confirmation that an identical in-stock item is on sale at any retail location of a local competitor in Canada and we will match that sale price. Where the sale is offered in the form of a percentage discount we will match the discounted price on an identical item.

Now according to that, I don't see anything about a comparable product. I only see identical, so meaning the same brand? As for local competitor, I know that means like Lowes or Rona for example. They say its 10%.

So if Lowes is $583, 10% off that price is $58.30, which brings it to $524.70 before taxes. So how did you get $80 off? Care to explain :P? Any how I think its too late as the Canadiana was on sale till today, so it goes back up. Oh well. Maybe I can still try my luck by calling them tomorrow?

[jonnyboi]

Hmm, this is what they say according to their website:



Now according to that, I don't see anything about a comparable product. I only see identical, so meaning the same brand? As for local competitor, I know that means like Lowes or Rona for example. They say its 10%.

So if Lowes is $583, 10% off that price is $58.30, which brings it to $524.70 before taxes. So how did you get $80 off? Care to explain :P? Any how I think its too late as the Canadiana was on sale till today, so it goes back up. Oh well. Maybe I can still try my luck by calling them tomorrow?

I wouldn't even know where to begin haha. I just went in there with my Lowes flyer and they basically did all the talking. I was more than happy to get my price, I wasn't going to say anything :D

[ndog2]

It's called a mistake people make them, sometimes they make them while doing a price match and sometimes that helps you out ;)

Oh and don't worry about the engine if you maintain it properly it'll last just as long as B&S which at least for some models aren't so much made in the USA as they are assembled in the USA.

[jtking]

Is this a good deal?

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932?campaign=rr_item_ClickCP_0_0

22", 1 stage, 205 cc B&S engine, with electric starter for 550, or the 20" 2 stage sno tek from HD with the same price? I have a small garage.

[snider]

Good job jonnyboi you got a great deal! I'm just happy to be able to get it at $599 with free shipping (credit card signup).

[direct-x]

Good job jonnyboi you got a great deal! I'm just happy to be able to get it at $599 with free shipping (credit card signup).

Just a question. How were you able to order it online with free shipping if you just applied for financing? They told my father in law he had to wait 7 to 10 days to receive his physical card before he could use it online for the purchase. Seeing the deal was ending, we ended up ordering with mastercard and paying for shipping. He then cancelled the approved card.

[snider]

Just a question. How were you able to order it online with free shipping if you just applied for financing? They told my father in law he had to wait 7 to 10 days to receive his physical card before he could use it online for the purchase. Seeing the deal was ending, we ended up ordering with mastercard and paying for shipping. He then cancelled the approved card.

I didn't order it online, it was in store. First off, the associate checked the price in the computer which rang up at $649 but after I convinced him that the sale was good until the next day he agreed to adjust it to $599.99. When checking out, it rang at $599.99 anyhow so he didn't have to make any adjustments. I asked him about shipping options which he told me would be $60. He then said that that if I applied for a HD credit card, they normally would give new customers a $50 credit or in this case he could waive my shipping costs (this is not standard policy btw, its done at the associate's discretion). So I opted for the free shipping and on top of that I could purchase it on my newly approved HD credit card with 12 months no interest. I will receive the physical card by mail later but he printed out a temporary barcode which is essentially the same as the card so that I could use it right away. I was pleased with how it all turned out, too bad you couldn't do the transaction in-store instead.

[knievel]

Is this a good deal?

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932?campaign=rr_item_ClickCP_0_0

22", 1 stage, 205 cc B&S engine, with electric starter for 550, or the 20" 2 stage sno tek from HD with the same price? I have a small garage.

Would appreciate some input on this one as well. Have been looking at the $800 Toro at Depot.
This one is wider and has a bigger engine for $250 less?

[clammydog]

I wouldn't even know where to begin haha. I just went in there with my Lowes flyer and they basically did all the talking. I was more than happy to get my price, I wasn't going to say anything :D

I did the same thing a couple of weeks ago (see post #335). HD knocked $100 off the Cub Cadet I purchased because it was comparable to Lowes Canadiana model (Lowes had a $100 gift card offer at the time). They can't price match because they don't carry the same brands. As long as you buy a comparable brand they should price match. I also got my delivery fee refunded because the snowblower wasn't delivered when promised.

[jonnyboi]

I did the same thing a couple of weeks ago (see post #335). HD knocked $100 off the Cub Cadet I purchased because it was comparable to Lowes Canadiana model (Lowes had a $100 gift card offer at the time). They can't price match because they don't carry the same brands. As long as you buy a comparable brand they should price match. I also got my delivery fee refunded because the snowblower wasn't delivered when promised.

Yeah, that's what they told me. A comparable product, it did not have to be identical. They basically saw that it was also a 24" Snow Blower and multi-speed, so they said it'd be comparable.

[PJStyles]

I'm looking to buy the Toro 621QZE this winter and just saw Home Depot has $40 off. I was hoping to find a better deal on this until. Here's the link to the Home Depot product description & price:

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621qze-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/960185

Anyone know where/how I might be able to find a better deal?

Thanks
PJStyles

[ndog2]

I'm looking to buy the Toro 621QZE this winter and just saw Home Depot has $40 off. I was hoping to find a better deal on this until. Here's the link to the Home Depot product description & price:

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621qze-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/960185

Anyone know where/how I might be able to find a better deal?

Thanks
PJStyles

You can try some independent dealers but like most other high end ope there's little movement on prices other than sales like this and then end of season clearance. The us pricing is 749.99 so you probably wont find it for less than that here. Potentially you could wait for it go on sale in the us and go get it but depending on gas and all of that you might not save much.

[6millions]

Just found myself a used 80's Toro 724 for 180$!
From what I read it sounds like a solid machine, just need to rent a van to pick it up.

[axelmazda]

what do you guys think of this, it seems like a good deal at 549.00

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480

[saint2e]

It's a minimalistic model, but it should do the job. I bought the 24" version recently.

Is your main concern money or size? If it's money, I saw the 24" Canadiana model at Lowes is only $40 more (I think $583), and has a B&S engine.

I don't see them on lowes.ca, so YMMV...

[axelmazda]

It's a minimalistic model, but it should do the job. I bought the 24" version recently.

Is your main concern money or size? If it's money, I saw the 24" Canadiana model at Lowes is only $40 more (I think $583), and has a B&S engine.

I don't see them on lowes.ca, so YMMV...


i read a couple pages back that the 24'' was 599 a few days ago, Iam going to wait it out for the 24th at this point to see if goes back on sale , i live in toronto so we dont really get allot of snow

[axelmazda]

http://www.homedepot.com/Outdoors-Outdoor-Power-Equipment-Snow-Equipment-Snow-Blowers/h_d1/N-5yc1vZbxc5/R-202222489/h_d2/ProductDisplay?langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053


Prices 599 in the States.... with their sale it would be between 500-550, so as always were getting ripped off here in Canada, this model has really good reviews as well, out of 109 reviews it gets 4.5 out of 5

[chachu]

Got my Arien 28 DLX today looks big in the box will assemble tomorrow ,any body can let me know how good are hand warmers ,will cost another 100 bucks to put but is it worth ,called a dealer to order who discouraged saying they dont warm up that much , with arthritis was looking for something which will be a help with hands in cold weather .?

[GTABuySell]

Just bought the Ariens ST28LE Deluxe 28" from HD this evening. After PM + 10% off, I ended up paying $899 + Tax. YMMV.

HD price is $1119.
Competitor's price is $999: http://egger-truck-machine.ariensstore.com/seriespage/deluxe/
Other models are cheaper than HD as well.

[djemzine]

Just found myself a used 80's Toro 724 for 180$!
From what I read it sounds like a solid machine, just need to rent a van to pick it up.

Cool beans.

[Lee C]

Just bought the Ariens ST28LE Deluxe 28" from HD this evening. After PM + 10% off, I ended up paying $899 + Tax. YMMV.

HD price is $1119.
Competitor's price is $999: http://egger-truck-machine.ariensstore.com/seriespage/deluxe/
Other models are cheaper than HD as well.Wow Great Deal

[vwfun]

I am also looking for a snowblower, and quickly looking at specs, it would appears that sears have better deal than HD?

for example, like this 26" dual stage, 208 cc OHV engine, $799
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-208cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AS53TF599

Not sure if this is the one I'd get as but on paper (or screen) it sure looks pretty good

Any inputs?

[wilsonlam97]

I am also looking for a snowblower, and quickly looking at specs, it would appears that sears have better deal than HD?

for example, like this 26" dual stage, 208 cc OHV engine, $799
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-208cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AS53TF599

Not sure if this is the one I'd get as but on paper (or screen) it sure looks pretty good

Any inputs?

Pretty good for the price.

[chen0289]

looking at a 3yr old snowblower that was never used for sale for 1/3 the price, its a single stage 2stroke Toro, the owner said it was for her parents and her parents never used it, still in box with staples on it. Would leaving a engine for 3 years without touching it, damage it in anyway? or would it work like new if I start using it now?

[CHIA]

looking at a 3yr old snowblower that was never used for sale for 1/3 the price, its a single stage 2stroke Toro, the owner said it was for her parents and her parents never used it, still in box with staples on it. Would leaving a engine for 3 years without touching it, damage it in anyway? or would it work like new if I start using it now?

Should be fine, as long as it was stored properly. was it left indoors or out?

[olly123]

Just bought the Ariens ST28LE Deluxe 28" from HD this evening. After PM + 10% off, I ended up paying $899 + Tax. YMMV.

HD price is $1119.
Competitor's price is $999: http://egger-truck-machine.ariensstore.com/seriespage/deluxe/
Other models are cheaper than HD as well.

HD Manager was fighting me over 249cc vs 250cc....looks like HD gets a special version 1 cc less so they can avoid price match....but I beat them anyways.

[vwfun]

HD Manager was fighting me over 249cc vs 250cc....looks like HD gets a special version 1 cc less so they can avoid price match....but I beat them anyways.

I was just at home depot, they didn't use the 1cc, but rather they said its "online" so they can only price match , no price beat.
So I left, the ones on sale at sears for 999 is better anyways,

[tutchio]

I received my 30" platinium from ariens man this thing is a BEAST I also like the joystick chute control the deluxe chute control kinda suck if you want to put a shield to protect yourself from the snow

[Anatomy]

looking at a 3yr old snowblower that was never used for sale for 1/3 the price, its a single stage 2stroke Toro, the owner said it was for her parents and her parents never used it, still in box with staples on it. Would leaving a engine for 3 years without touching it, damage it in anyway? or would it work like new if I start using it now?

I hate mixing oil and gas but I'd buy that in a second!

[chen0289]

I hate mixing oil and gas but I'd buy that in a second!

well I heard its better then changing oil on a 4 stroke?

[jed]

Just a different set of features - with a 2 stroke you are mixing fuel, and from my experience, should only use premium. Plus, unless you use a good synthetic 2 stroke oil, it'll smell and stink up your clothes.

2 Stroke gives you more power for a given size of engine over a 4 cycle.

That being said, I agree, I'd buy this in a second. But I have a whole range of small engine stuff, including 2 strokes and 4 cycle so I wouldn't have to adjust or change a thing (fuel, fuel can, oil).

[redpassion831010]

HD Manager was fighting me over 249cc vs 250cc....looks like HD gets a special version 1 cc less so they can avoid price match....but I beat them anyways.
ya, i bought mine today at HD as well and convinced them to price match...:cheesygri

[jed]

Got my Arien 28 DLX today looks big in the box will assemble tomorrow ,any body can let me know how good are hand warmers ,will cost another 100 bucks to put but is it worth ,called a dealer to order who discouraged saying they dont warm up that much , with arthritis was looking for something which will be a help with hands in cold weather .?

I have a Craftsman 52907 with the hand warmers, and last winter as cold as it was out West, hand warmers were a godsend. IMO.

[cavuu]

Just a different set of features - with a 2 stroke you are mixing fuel, and from my experience, should only use premium. Plus, unless you use a good synthetic 2 stroke oil, it'll smell and stink up your clothes.2 Stroke gives you more power for a given size of engine over a 4 cycle.

That being said, I agree, I'd buy this in a second. But I have a whole range of small engine stuff, including 2 strokes and 4 cycle so I wouldn't have to adjust or change a thing (fuel, fuel can, oil).
I second that!! I have a 2 stroke Toro and your clothes will smell like an outboard motor by the time you finish. I bought it for $25 five years ago and it just keeps going. It is the older paddle wheel type that throws the snow out the front. Great for decks as it's light and can easily be carried up the stairs. Good for 1-3" of snow but almost useless if the snow is over 6".

[BoombasticSloth]

looking at a 3yr old snowblower that was never used for sale for 1/3 the price, its a single stage 2stroke Toro, the owner said it was for her parents and her parents never used it, still in box with staples on it. Would leaving a engine for 3 years without touching it, damage it in anyway? or would it work like new if I start using it now?

This should be a no brainer. TaKe It!!!! It is a good deal. As it is still in the box unopened, it most likely was kept indoors so there should not be condensation problems due morning dew and fuel was never put in it.

[project240]

looking at a 3yr old snowblower that was never used for sale for 1/3 the price, its a single stage 2stroke Toro, the owner said it was for her parents and her parents never used it, still in box with staples on it. Would leaving a engine for 3 years without touching it, damage it in anyway? or would it work like new if I start using it now?

What model Toro?

I just bought a Toro 210E after spending a lot of time reading a snow/ice removal forum. Nearly all the contractors there swear by the Toro 2 cycle machines. No need to worry about the engine sitting that long, just put in the proper oil/fuel mix, 2 primes and I'd bet it starts on the first or second pull.

[BoombasticSloth]

The 2 cycle Toro is a battle proven machine.

[arkayel]

I've decided on a single stage unit to give to my son as a housewarming present.

Walmart has one on sale for $398, but and HD has a couple of Toro models for just a little more and I have had good experience with Toro products:

Toro Power Clear 180 (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-clear-180-snow-blower/910387) for $499 and

Toro Power Clear 418 ZE (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-418-ze-single-stage-snow-blower-18-inch/959624) for $449

The problem is the cheaper machine (which seems a bit better in that it comes with an electric starter) is only available on-line and is currently on back order and won't be available until November 12th. Plus, there is no free shipping so the price its total cost increases by $24.13 (to me).

I've placed an order for the $449 unit, but can back out anytime before it ships.

I'd like to ask the thread for its thoughts on these two units or any other comparable models or deals available.

Thanks to all.

[ajadudu]

Just bought the Ariens ST28LE Deluxe 28" from HD this evening. After PM + 10% off, I ended up paying $899 + Tax. YMMV.

HD price is $1119.
Competitor's price is $999: http://egger-truck-machine.ariensstore.com/seriespage/deluxe/
Other models are cheaper than HD as well.

Thanks!! I scored this deal this morning. Went to my local HD last night and they were out of stock, surprising as I was in last week and counted 6 in storage, these babies are moving fast!

He looked up a few HD close by and all sold out, but for one. We called them and they said could not find the last one in stock, being 7:55pm I guess they just could not be bothered since it was about closing time.

Up and early this morning, went to the store and was able to find it with the assistance of a sales rep. I gave them the $999 and this other sales rep refused to give me 10% off, he couldn't comprehend the maths. So I called for the manager, who told me they would only match since its internet price. I explained I called the internet department of HD and they told me they could not match/beat the online price (I actually did this last night when I thought I would not find this model as it seems sold out in west GTA), internet department would only match/beat if the website has a shopping cart and egger didn't. In other words, egger's price is NOT an internet price.

At that point he gave up and gave me for $899.10, wooohoo!

[NotMoneyGuy]

Getting the Deluxe 28 for under $900 (by getting HD@ $1,119 to PM & beat the $999.9x prices) is an awesome price for this machine. Way to go folks!

While it is still nice outside, I would recommend using some car wax on the machine, including the inside of the chute. Keep them beautiful and slippery, and looking good for years to come.

[sroghen]

I've decided on a single stage unit to give to my son as a housewarming present.

Walmart has one on sale for $398, but and HD has a couple of Toro models for just a little more and I have had good experience with Toro products:

Toro Power Clear 180 (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-clear-180-snow-blower/910387) for $499 and

Toro Power Clear 418 ZE (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-418-ze-single-stage-snow-blower-18-inch/959624) for $449

The problem is the cheaper machine (which seems a bit better in that it comes with an electric starter) is only available on-line and is currently on back order and won't be available until November 12th. Plus, there is no free shipping so the price its total cost increases by $24.13 (to me).

I've placed an order for the $449 unit, but can back out anytime before it ships.

I'd like to ask the thread for its thoughts on these two units or any other comparable models or deals available.

Thanks to all.


You can get the 180 for $360+taxes. Look for the earlier pages on this thread on how to.

[gwako]

Hey guys,

I went ahead and purchased the sno-tek 24 from HD, and had a couple of questions for the experts as I am a rookie when it comes to this:

1) do I need to add fuel stabilizer until our first snow fall, or is that only for long term storage ?

2) I cant figure out the choke position as it seems the knob it's not lined up with the sticker.
Is all the way left choke closed or open ?

Thanks in advance

[IcedUpSquirrel]

Hey guys!
So I've narrowed it down to two choices, any advice for a newbie to snow blowers would be greatly appreciated!

(1) Toro Power Clear 180 http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-clear-180-snow-blower/910387

or

(2) Sno Tek 20 http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480

Have a great day!

[pacman]

Hey guys!
So I've narrowed it down to two choices, any advice for a newbie to snow blowers would be greatly appreciated!

(1) Toro Power Clear 180 http://www.homedepot.ca/product/toro-power-clear-180-snow-blower/910387

or

(2) Sno Tek 20 http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480

Have a great day!

I live in Calgary and bought the Toro 180 (which is now called the 418ZR, but has the same model # as the 180). I think the 2 stage unit will be overkill for Vancouver. Heck, last year I had the Toro electric unit (less powerful than the 418ZR/180) and it was fine.

[CHIA]

You can get the 180 for $360+taxes. Look for the earlier pages on this thread on how to.

currently? i dont see it, how/where?

[jtking]

You can get the 180 for $360+taxes. Look for the earlier pages on this thread on how to.

If I had known this maybe I wouldn't pull trigger on the craftsman 22" 205cc for $550.
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932?campaign=rr_item_ClickEV_0_0#BVQAWidgetID

but for $190 I get much powerful engine and electric start and chute control, that is not so bad.

[pagal]

Puschased from HD over 1.5 wks ago, they still have not received it in store (Kanata):mad:

[djemzine]

I have two thing to ask/say:

(1) Why are singe stage snow blowers so expensive, some even the prices of dual stage? Won't it be just better to get a dual stage for the same price with more features?
(2) Saw at Lowes, one on sale, starts with a "B", its a 24" and its $850. Never heard of the brand before... wait its a Bolens make:

Bolens
24" 2-Stage Gas Snow Thrower
#22411
SPECIAL VALUE!, 10% off*
now $898.20

( was $998)
Offer valid thru Nov 2
PRODUCT INFORMATION
• 4 YEAR LIMITED WARRANTY
• 208cc OHV 4-cycle engine
• 6 forward, 2 reverse speeds
• Electric start
• Heated grips
• 4-way joystick

Was just wondering. Picked up myself a Sno Tek 24" at HD earlier this week.

[PJStyles]

Debating between these 3 and having a hard time deciding

Craftsman
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

Toro 621 QZE
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

Cub Cadet
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/208cc-ohv-21-inch-single-stage-cub-cadet-snow-thrower/942306

The best price is on the craftsman but the sale ends tonight at midnight. It's on sale for $549. The Toro is $799 and the Cub Cadet is $699.

Would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks
PJstyles

[project240]

I have two thing to ask/say:

(1) Why are singe stage snow blowers so expensive, some even the prices of dual stage? Won't it be just better to get a dual stage for the same price with more features?


A dual stage isn't necessarily better, it just depends on what you plan on using it for. Obviously dual stage can be purchased with much larger motors/clearing widths, but if you're planning on using it for a small double driveway/walks, you really don't need it.

Also, depends where you live and the typical average snowfall. This will be my first year using a single stage, I just bought a Toro 2 cycle. Our average snowfall is 2-3", so for me a single stage will be quicker, easier to maneuver, lighter and takes up less space.

What are you planning on using it for?

[jtking]

Debating between these 3 and having a hard time deciding

Craftsman
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

Toro 621 QZE
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

Cub Cadet
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/208cc-ohv-21-inch-single-stage-cub-cadet-snow-thrower/942306

The best price is on the craftsman but the sale ends tonight at midnight. It's on sale for $549. The Toro is $799 and the Cub Cadet is $699.

Would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks
PJstyles

Go back to page 30 there were some discussions about these snowblowers. I bought the craftsman this afternoon but will keep on watching for better deals.

[member2004]

which one I go?

paulan pro, 24 $699 at cosco (208c ,)
ariens compact, 24 $839 at gootime (208c, brigs n straton)
ariens compact, 22 $719 at goodtime (208c, brigs nd straton)

or any deals with brigs n straton engine? about 24' size.

thanks

[mackie29]

Anyone have any opions on these model was going to go with an Ariens but got an 1500 gift card to Sears from work as bonus.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TG599

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-249cc-27-dual-stage-snowblower/671-000202721-52811

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-291cc-24-dual-stage-mid-frame-snow-blower/671-000202721-52062

or any other suggestions there sale ends Nov 6 so have to buy soon.
Thanks

[tutchio]

if sizze is not an issue i would go with the 24" and 291cc its powerfull and has a metal chute Now what you need to check is if the hole chute is large or tiny if its small i would pick the 27" hoping the hole is larger



Anyone have any opions on these model was going to go with an Ariens but got an 1500 gift card to Sears from work as bonus.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TG599

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-249cc-27-dual-stage-snowblower/671-000202721-52811

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-291cc-24-dual-stage-mid-frame-snow-blower/671-000202721-52062

or any other suggestions there sale ends Nov 6 so have to buy soon.
Thanks

[mackie29]

When you say the chute is large what would you consider large or small they both look about the small from the pick. Size is not that importan power steering/ez steer is.

[axelmazda]

I am personally thinking of these 2, the only downside with the Sno Tek is that they dont have a light on the unit... I dont see a problem with the engine as they are under Honda Supervision manufactured in China.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481 549.00 on sale ( regular 599.99)

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480 649.99 no sale ( previous sale was 599.99)


might as well wait for the 24'' to go on sale again for 599.... the american made engines on Ariens , craftsman etc etc always run over 800 even on sale they dont go below 750 from what Ive seen ( Ive checked : Sears, HD, Lowes, XS cargo, independent stores)

[BoombasticSloth]

Debating between these 3 and having a hard time deciding

Craftsman
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

Toro 621 QZE
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

Cub Cadet
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/208cc-ohv-21-inch-single-stage-cub-cadet-snow-thrower/942306

The best price is on the craftsman but the sale ends tonight at midnight. It's on sale for $549. The Toro is $799 and the Cub Cadet is $699.

Would appreciate your feedback.

Thanks
PJstyles

I say go with the Craftsman.

[NotMoneyGuy]

I hate mixing oil and gas but I'd buy that in a second!


well I heard its better then changing oil on a 4 stroke?

Go with whichever machine you think serves your snow clearing purposes best, don't worry about oil. Changing oil on a 4-cycle is simple; did two of them yesterday, piece of cake. The well designed Ariens even has an extender pipe to make the whole process surgically clean and easy. (Tip: wrap the drain extender pipe with some protective electrical tape and clamp a Vise-grip on it, resting on some protective cardboard on the orange body. This prevents the extender pipe from rotating as you turn the 5/8" wrench on the end plug). The Poulan s/s was a bit messier, but no biggie.

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/NotMoneyGuy/Deluxe28oilchange.jpg

http://i279.photobucket.com/albums/kk137/NotMoneyGuy/PoulanPR621ESoilchange.jpg

[saint2e]

Nice. Now that I've got the 24" Sno-Tek I gotta get my beast sold... I have an old 8 speed (6 forward, 2 reverse) 10HP 32" mammoth snow blower which is way too big for my needs. Gotta change the oil, and do some maintenance before listing on Kijiji.

Good practice for when I have to service the 24" one.

[zalapski]

Interested in hearing what type of car wax do you use on your thrower? The regular CT kind?




While it is still nice outside, I would recommend using some car wax on the machine, including the inside of the chute. Keep them beautiful and slippery, and looking good for years to come.

[sroghen]

What brand oil is required for a 4-cycle Toro snowblower?

Thx

[Lee C]

Interested in hearing what type of car wax do you use on your thrower? The regular CT kind?

I say any wax you have around will do Good Luck

[dingmah]

Interested in hearing what type of car wax do you use on your thrower? The regular CT kind?
Silicone spray would also probably work well, and be easier to apply than waxing by hand.

[axelmazda]

Nice. Now that I've got the 24" Sno-Tek I gotta get my beast sold... I have an old 8 speed (6 forward, 2 reverse) 10HP 32" mammoth snow blower which is way too big for my needs. Gotta change the oil, and do some maintenance before listing on Kijiji.

Good practice for when I have to service the 24" one.



Next Years Sno Tek models will have a light and heated hand grips.

[ndog2]

I am personally thinking of these 2, the only downside with the Sno Tek is that they dont have a light on the unit... I dont see a problem with the engine as they are under Honda Supervision manufactured in China.

The engines don't have anything to do with Honda. They're designed and built by LCT www.lctusa.com


What brand oil is required for a 4-cycle Toro snowblower?

Thx
No particular brand just any good quality name brand automotive oil in 5w-30 (10w-30 could be used too but they don't recommend it past -15) Canadian tire has castrol gtx 5w-30 on sale for $3.98 this week. It's a good conventional oil. If you want to go all out get a full synthetic 5w-30.

[NotMoneyGuy]

Interested in hearing what type of car wax do you use on your thrower? The regular CT kind?


I say any wax you have around will do Good Luck

Yeah, whatever you have kicking around should be fine and better than nothing. I used Turtle Wax, some of the green liquid and also some of that quicky high-gloss spray-on stuff too.

[vwfun]

Next Years Sno Tek models will have a light and heated hand grips.


that would've been nice if they had it this year...
I would so pick it up.

I saw the 24" sno-tek on sale today for $499, was so tempted to pick it up, but I think I'll stick with a B&S engine
(and I want the little things like hand warmer and headlight, if they had those features, I'd probably forget about the engine part of it)

[gwako]

Hey guys,

I went ahead and purchased the sno-tek 24 from HD, and had a couple of questions for the experts as I am a rookie when it comes to this:

1) do I need to add fuel stabilizer until our first snow fall, or is that only for long term storage ?

2) I cant figure out the choke position as it seems the knob it's not lined up with the sticker.
Is all the way left choke closed or open ?

Thanks in advance

Anyone ?

[saint2e]

Anyone ?

I can't really speak to the first question, but the second one, when the choke dial is in the 10 o'clock / 4 o'clock position, (when viewing it from where the handle bars are) that's when the choke is all the way open. At least that's how it is on my sno-tek 24".

[Lee C]

that would've been nice if they had it this year...
I would so pick it up.

I saw the 24" sno-tek on sale today for $499, was so tempted to pick it up, but I think I'll stick with a B&S engine
(and I want the little things like hand warmer and headlight, if they had those features, I'd probably forget about the engine part of it)

Where was it for 499 Thanks

[goofball]

Any thoughts on a Murray-built Sears snowthrower model from 2007 with B&S engine, model C950-52725-0? Looking to pick one up used. I know less than 0 about these things. Thanks!

This model

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932#BVQAWidgetID

[ivorm]

Where was it for 499 Thanks

I think he might be talking about one of the "special buy" 136cc models; I think someone said they are last years model maybe?

[Darryl]

Hey guys,

I went ahead and purchased the sno-tek 24 from HD, and had a couple of questions for the experts as I am a rookie when it comes to this:

1) do I need to add fuel stabilizer until our first snow fall, or is that only for long term storage ?

2) I cant figure out the choke position as it seems the knob it's not lined up with the sticker.
Is all the way left choke closed or open ?

Thanks in advance

Generally you only need fuel stabilizer if it will sit for more than 30-60 days. Chances are you would only need to put fuel stabilizer in when you put it away for good in the spring.

[ivorm]

Anyone ?

You might want to check your snowblower manual or engine manual for short term storage procedure, I pretty sure gasoline starts to degrade pretty quickly, this is what my old tecumseh manual says:

Disclaimer: I don't have much experience with small engines personally, this is just what my manual says.

SHORT TERM STORAGE
NEVER store the engine with fuel in the fuel tank inside a building with potential sources
of ignition such as hot water and space heaters, clothes dryers, electric motors, etc.
If engine fuel stored in the gas tank and/or an approved gas container is to be unused without gasoline
stabilizer for more than 15-30 days, prepare it for short term/seasonal storage.
TecumsehPower recommends using ULTRA-FRESH™ or Fuel Saver Plus Gasoline Stabilizer plus Fuel
System Cleaner as an acceptable method of minimizing formation of fuel gum deposits during storage.
This product is available from your Authorized TecumsehPower Servicing Dealer.
Always follow mix ratio found on stabilizer container. Failure to do so may result in equipment damage.
It is not necessary to drain stabilized gas from carburetor.
FUEL TREATMENT
1. Add fuel stabilizer according to manufacturer’s instructions.
2. Run engine at least 10 minutes after adding stabilizer to allow it to reach carburetor.
3. Instead of using a fuel preservative/stabilizer, you can empty the fuel tank as described under "Extended
Storage”.


Fuel Recommendations - continued
EXTENDED STORAGE NOTES
Clean debris from engine before draining fuel from carburetor. If you have prepared your fuel for short
term storage it is not necessary to drain fuel that contains stabilizer from your carburetor.
To avoid severe injury or death, DO NOT pour fuel from engine or siphon fuel by mouth.
1. To prevent serious injury from fuel fires, empty fuel tank by running engine until it stops from lack of
fuel. DO NOT attempt to pour fuel from engine.
2. Run the engine while waiting until the remaining fuel is consumed.
NEVER leave the engine unattended when it is running and NEVER run engine in enclosed areas.
FUEL ADDITIVES
Only fuel additives such as Tecumseh Power’s fuel stabilizer Part No. 730245A or liquid varieties can be
used when mixed properly. For winter applications, Isopropyl alcohol fuel dryers may be used in the fuel
system but must be mixed at the proper ratio recommended by the manufacturer. NEVER USE METHANOL
BASED FUEL DRYERS.

[shingor6]

Silicone spray would also probably work well, and be easier to apply than waxing by hand.

I use rustcheck, it's a bit messy but as long as it doesn't rust, I'm happy.

[Anatomy]

Any thoughts on a Murray-built Sears snowthrower model from 2007 with B&S engine, model C950-52725-0? Looking to pick one up used. I know less than 0 about these things. Thanks!

This model

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932#BVQAWidgetID

I had one of those and used it up. Great machine but keep an eye on the wear items since they're more expensive than most to replace (ie, must replace the whole auger, not just the rubber). Also check the condition of the scraper bar and I think it had replaceable wear bars on the sides as well. I pushed my auger a little past its prime into the middle of last winter and the steel broke when it hit something hard on the walkway, came around and cracked the housing. Replacing the $130 auger on time would have saved it imo. Engine was always awesome and even fired up 1st pull with year old gas last week.

[jed]

You might want to check your snowblower manual or engine manual for short term storage procedure, I pretty sure gasoline starts to degrade pretty quickly, this is what my old tecumseh manual says:

Disclaimer: I don't have much experience with small engines personally, this is just what my manual says.

SHORT TERM STORAGE
NEVER store the engine with fuel in the fuel tank inside a building with potential sources
of ignition such as hot water and space heaters, clothes dryers, electric motors, etc.
If engine fuel stored in the gas tank and/or an approved gas container is to be unused without gasoline
stabilizer for more than 15-30 days, prepare it for short term/seasonal storage.
TecumsehPower recommends using ULTRA-FRESH™ or Fuel Saver Plus Gasoline Stabilizer plus Fuel
System Cleaner as an acceptable method of minimizing formation of fuel gum deposits during storage.
This product is available from your Authorized TecumsehPower Servicing Dealer.
Always follow mix ratio found on stabilizer container. Failure to do so may result in equipment damage.
It is not necessary to drain stabilized gas from carburetor.
FUEL TREATMENT
1. Add fuel stabilizer according to manufacturer’s instructions.
2. Run engine at least 10 minutes after adding stabilizer to allow it to reach carburetor.
3. Instead of using a fuel preservative/stabilizer, you can empty the fuel tank as described under "Extended
Storage”.


Fuel Recommendations - continued
EXTENDED STORAGE NOTES
Clean debris from engine before draining fuel from carburetor. If you have prepared your fuel for short
term storage it is not necessary to drain fuel that contains stabilizer from your carburetor.
To avoid severe injury or death, DO NOT pour fuel from engine or siphon fuel by mouth.
1. To prevent serious injury from fuel fires, empty fuel tank by running engine until it stops from lack of
fuel. DO NOT attempt to pour fuel from engine.
2. Run the engine while waiting until the remaining fuel is consumed.
NEVER leave the engine unattended when it is running and NEVER run engine in enclosed areas.
FUEL ADDITIVES
Only fuel additives such as Tecumseh Power’s fuel stabilizer Part No. 730245A or liquid varieties can be
used when mixed properly. For winter applications, Isopropyl alcohol fuel dryers may be used in the fuel
system but must be mixed at the proper ratio recommended by the manufacturer. NEVER USE METHANOL
BASED FUEL DRYERS.

I've had more than my share of grief with fuel, although I have used fuel stabilizer, in my small engine stuff. To clarify, I counted them up the other day and have 15 units of various shapes and sizes.

I have found that you have 2 choices. Use premium fuel or empty your carb and tank if unit will be stored. And use a metal fuel can. If you do have issues, I've found the Polaris Carbon Clean fuel additive works wonders, read the directions on the bottle.

[Bordak]

I use rustcheck, it's a bit messy but as long as it doesn't rust, I'm happy.

One of the reasons people use a silicone spray / wax is so that wet and heavy snow does not stick to the chute, allowing you to throw heavy snow further, and without clogging. I don't believe RustCheck would provide this.

[axelmazda]

that would've been nice if they had it this year...
I would so pick it up.

I saw the 24" sno-tek on sale today for $499, was so tempted to pick it up, but I think I'll stick with a B&S engine
(and I want the little things like hand warmer and headlight, if they had those features, I'd probably forget about the engine part of it)

where did you see it for 499????? I've never seen it below 599.00
please pm me asap or reply here

[window shopper]

where did you see it for 499????? I've never seen it below 599.00
please pm me asap or reply here

+1

[ndog2]

+1


where did you see it for 499????? I've never seen it below 599.00
please pm me asap or reply here

Look through the last few pages people mentioned locations but the $499 model is the 136cc engine and the manual chute deflector it was the standard model last year. This year it's either left over stock or some kind of promotional buy.

[mackie29]

Anyone have any opions on these model was going to go with an Ariens but got an 1500 gift card to Sears from work as bonus.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TG599

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-249cc-27-dual-stage-snowblower/671-000202721-52811

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-291cc-24-dual-stage-mid-frame-snow-blower/671-000202721-52062

or any other suggestions there sale ends Nov 6 so have to buy soon.
Thanks

So any one have any thoughs hoping to buy before sales end. Thanks

[axelmazda]

Look through the last few pages people mentioned locations but the $499 model is the 136cc engine and the manual chute deflector it was the standard model last year. This year it's either left over stock or some kind of promotional buy.

never mind lol i'll pass at 499... this years model is on sale for 549.99 for the 20 inch and 649 for the 24 inch model, only reason iam not jumping on it yet is because their is no lights on the unit or heated grips

[djemzine]

never mind lol i'll pass at 499... this years model is on sale for 549.99 for the 20 inch and 649 for the 24 inch model, only reason iam not jumping on it yet is because their is no lights on the unit or heated grips

The question is, does a light really help? Are those lights ever that bright, etc? I have a neighbour who has one and its not that helpful at all. Isn't it just better to use one's driveway/porch light? Also for heated grips, are they 100% beneficial or? Or do the gloves not just cut it?

[axelmazda]

So any one have any thoughs hoping to buy before sales end. Thanks

check out the snotek 28 inch on HD, its much cheaper and you have ariens reliability

[vwfun]

where did you see it for 499????? I've never seen it below 599.00
please pm me asap or reply here

The location was Warden and Ellesmere.

I was there trying to decide which one to get, my friend Highly recommend the Arien so i was looking at them seeing which one is good.
Since only the 30" model comes with the handwarmer, I was tempted to get that but after wasting over an hour of my time with them,
and the response I got, the only decision I've made is I will not buy snow blower from them. Period. I will also stop buying other products from them, which really is their lost since overall I spend each year over $10k there (I know its not a lot from their perspective, but I can easily take my business else where)

Sorry about the vent, but really, being told that they will not price match / price beat for me because of the reason:
"We didn't price match for other people so we're not going to do it for you either."

Can you believe that?

well, the longer version is, after waiting for 30 mins for this guy to finish with another customer, he turns around and say yeah, I know you want to show me an ad from Oshawa (which isn't even the case), I know about that , its not real ad, we don't match that, blah blah...
when I try to explain to him what I want to show him isn't even in Oshawa, he just says:
"We didn't price match for other people so we're not going to do it for you either."
Then after I told him I really don't care how he treats other customer or what they bring in for price match, etc...
he uses the technique of "leave your number, I'll look into it tomorrow, call the company you are trying to pricematch and call you with result"
when I asked what time he will call, etc he said "I promise I'll call you before 3pm"

and of course, no call.

So bottom line, thats the end of shopping at HD for me.
there's plenty of other places to spend money.

[axelmazda]

The location was Warden and Ellesmere.

I was there trying to decide which one to get, my friend Highly recommend the Arien so i was looking at them seeing which one is good.
Since only the 30" model comes with the handwarmer, I was tempted to get that but after wasting over an hour of my time with them,
and the response I got, the only decision I've made is I will not buy snow blower from them. Period. I will also stop buying other products from them, which really is their lost since overall I spend each year over $10k there (I know its not a lot from their perspective, but I can easily take my business else where)

Sorry about the vent, but really, being told that they will not price match / price beat for me because of the reason:
"We didn't price match for other people so we're not going to do it for you either."

Can you believe that?

well, the longer version is, after waiting for 30 mins for this guy to finish with another customer, he turns around and say yeah, I know you want to show me an ad from Oshawa (which isn't even the case), I know about that , its not real ad, we don't match that, blah blah...
when I try to explain to him what I want to show him isn't even in Oshawa, he just says:
"We didn't price match for other people so we're not going to do it for you either."
Then after I told him I really don't care how he treats other customer or what they bring in for price match, etc...
he uses the technique of "leave your number, I'll look into it tomorrow, call the company you are trying to pricematch and call you with result"
when I asked what time he will call, etc he said "I promise I'll call you before 3pm"

and of course, no call.

So bottom line, thats the end of shopping at HD for me.
there's plenty of other places to spend money.



take your business somewhere else, i had a similar problem with a window i orderd from them ($480.00... not cheap) , it came broken, I waited over 3 weeks for that window and for compensation they wanted to give me 50 dollars off ..LOL, I said no give me back my money and I will go to lowes and thats exactly what I did, I went back to homedepot a week later for other things and the window guy told me that the customer service people were "talking ****" behind my back and saying that I wanted to get the window for free ( which I never did nor did I ever request to get the window for free),

in terms of customer service lowes is the best but their prices are always higher than HD so you kind of have to play the juggling game. I go to a different homedepot now and I have also reported their lack of customer service to home depot head office both in canada and the states, I suggest you do the same

[roguetomato]

The question is, does a light really help? Are those lights ever that bright, etc? I have a neighbour who has one and its not that helpful at all. Isn't it just better to use one's driveway/porch light? Also for heated grips, are they 100% beneficial or? Or do the gloves not just cut it?

Depending on the time of day and where you actually use your snowblower, lights can be very helpful. I love the lights on my snowblower. Coming home after work in the middle of winter (IE: after 6pm = DARK) to a dump of snow that needs to be cleared by my snowblower is definitely easier to do with something to light my way. I also blow some paths around the backyard to get to my shed and my I have no immediate street lights near my home and the entrance light doesn't cut it :P

Better to have the light option IMO. If you don't want to use it, you can simply disconnect the wires ;)

As for hand warmers, I've personally never used them on my blower. Good insulated gloves work fine for me, but a few older guys I've talked to said they are great and would never get a blower without one/wished they had them. Depends on your circulation I guess?

[vwfun]

Didnt see anything at lowes that was interesting.
However, Sears is having scratch and save this weekend, heard on radio
If thats the case I will most likely pickup one from them.

[djemzine]

check out the snotek 28 inch on HD, its much cheaper and you have ariens reliability

$749 no?



Depending on the time of day and where you actually use your snowblower, lights can be very helpful. I love the lights on my snowblower. Coming home after work in the middle of winter (IE: after 6pm = DARK) to a dump of snow that needs to be cleared by my snowblower is definitely easier to do with something to light my way. I also blow some paths around the backyard to get to my shed and my I have no immediate street lights near my home and the entrance light doesn't cut it :P

Better to have the light option IMO. If you don't want to use it, you can simply disconnect the wires ;)

As for hand warmers, I've personally never used them on my blower. Good insulated gloves work fine for me, but a few older guys I've talked to said they are great and would never get a blower without one/wished they had them. Depends on your circulation I guess?

Ah ya, we live in a newly developed neighbourhood which opened up back in Jan/Feb of this year. There were no street lights then, but there is one in front of our house which is 70% sufficient plus the porch light we have is pretty bright too.

As for the heated handles feature, have insulated gloves so that should be fine heh.

[mackie29]

Anyone have any opions on these model was going to go with an Ariens but got an 1500 gift card to Sears from work as bonus.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-28-357cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH55TG599

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-249cc-27-dual-stage-snowblower/671-000202721-52811

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-291cc-24-dual-stage-mid-frame-snow-blower/671-000202721-52062

or any other suggestions there sale ends Nov 6 so have to buy soon.
Thanks

Work was going to give sears gift card is now saying to just go buy and bring in reciept so back to looking at ariens was looking at the 28 deluxe are they easy to manuver. Or are there other sujjestions on something with power steering.
Thanks

[Quanger]

anyone look into how to add a light mod?

[vwfun]

anyone look into how to add a light mod?

http://www.amazon.com/Arnold-490-241-0009-Universal-Throwers-Alternators/dp/B002DH157A

but not sure which model has alternators that doesn't include light.

for the price and effort, I'd just rather buy one with a light built in.
also, as for handwarmers, I remember my fingers still freezing with my gloves on when dealing with snow so thats a big "plus" for me.

as for sears, their scratch and save is this weekend but excludes lawn and snow equipment.

[djemzine]

anyone look into how to add a light mod?

Or old fashion way - somehow attach a flashlight/lantern to it? :S Nevermind, won't work heh.

[wilsonlam97]

The location was Warden and Ellesmere.

I was there trying to decide which one to get, my friend Highly recommend the Arien so i was looking at them seeing which one is good.
Since only the 30" model comes with the handwarmer, I was tempted to get that but after wasting over an hour of my time with them,
and the response I got, the only decision I've made is I will not buy snow blower from them. Period. I will also stop buying other products from them, which really is their lost since overall I spend each year over $10k there (I know its not a lot from their perspective, but I can easily take my business else where)

Sorry about the vent, but really, being told that they will not price match / price beat for me because of the reason:
"We didn't price match for other people so we're not going to do it for you either."

Can you believe that?

well, the longer version is, after waiting for 30 mins for this guy to finish with another customer, he turns around and say yeah, I know you want to show me an ad from Oshawa (which isn't even the case), I know about that , its not real ad, we don't match that, blah blah...
when I try to explain to him what I want to show him isn't even in Oshawa, he just says:
"We didn't price match for other people so we're not going to do it for you either."
Then after I told him I really don't care how he treats other customer or what they bring in for price match, etc...
he uses the technique of "leave your number, I'll look into it tomorrow, call the company you are trying to pricematch and call you with result"
when I asked what time he will call, etc he said "I promise I'll call you before 3pm"

and of course, no call.

So bottom line, thats the end of shopping at HD for me.
there's plenty of other places to spend money.

I feel ya. There are a lot of crap associates out there that just don't know how to do business and believe in that they must do everything that makes sure their profit stays intact. They need to be fired in all honesty, nobody will buy from you if your not willing to make your customers happy even at a "lost". Its like not allowing returns on lightly used things that your not satisfied with.

CT/WM always allows returns easily to satisfy customers while FS/BB will inspect the crap out of something even after confirming it to work and have the right serial number. Often fs/bb will find every reason to avoid your return. I hate these crap sales people with passion.

[BargainWiz]

In October I picked up 27" Brute snow blower at WM on sale for $793. It is made by Briggs & Stratton, came with B&S 1150 snow series engine and headlight. No power steering and no heated hand grips. I bought it based on price. The ultimate machine I wanted to get was Ariens ST28LE Deluxe. Easy to maneuver, with power steering and headlight, but the price difference was nearly $400 with tax. I think Briggs & Stratton engines made for Ariens are of better quality than Briggs & Stratton engines made for others. Perhaps they are still made in USA. Looking closely they have fuel shut off valve, throttle control, and the cover from pullup cord is screwed on not riveted on. In conclusion, you get what you pay for and quality has its price.

[Quanger]

LCT engines also come with fuel shut off valve, throttle control, and the cover for the recoil is screwed. Again, only time will tell how long this unit last but I have yet to find anyone with big problems using the LCT engine. I'm not sure about briggs and stratton but reading the engines manual for the LCT motor, it recommends that the oil be changed after the first month of use. I'm sure how well your machine performs will have a lot to do with how well you maintain it.

[hordosr]

am all over the 20 inch snowtech at HD which is $50 off, especially if i can use the 15% off coupon from Rona, turns it into 466 plus tax

[rongwon]

My neighbor bought a few of these for his garden shed, closet etc and has stuck one right on his snow blower. He is happy with it.


anyone look into how to add a light mod?

[mintchris]

I was at HD last night and asked if they would accept the 15% off coupon from Rona and they said yes. I said "even snowblowers" and they said yes!
That brings the 24 inch sno-tek down from $649-551.65!
Are there any major differences between the 20 and 24 inch models besides size? I have never owned a snow blower before so I want to make sure I get the right one.
Thanks!

[hordosr]

I was at HD last night and asked if they would accept the 15% off coupon from Rona and they said yes. I said "even snowblowers" and they said yes!
That brings the 24 inch sno-tek down from $649-551.65!
Are there any major differences between the 20 and 24 inch models besides size? I have never owned a snow blower before so I want to make sure I get the right one.
Thanks!

looks like 6 forward speeds, 2 reverse speeds compared to single speed on the cheaper one, plus the 4inches in width...$100 more it might be worth it, thoughts?

[Trexim]

I was at HD last night and asked if they would accept the 15% off coupon from Rona and they said yes. I said "even snowblowers" and they said yes!
That brings the 24 inch sno-tek down from $649-551.65!
Are there any major differences between the 20 and 24 inch models besides size? I have never owned a snow blower before so I want to make sure I get the right one.
Thanks!

Very interesting. Is the Rona coupon in their flyer this week? Thanks.

Edit: oopss, nvm. Found the thread: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/rona-15-off-single-product-your-choice-1100131/

[member2004]

any snowblower deals on this weekend?

[mintchris]

looks like 6 forward speeds, 2 reverse speeds compared to single speed on the cheaper one, plus the 4inches in width...$100 more it might be worth it, thoughts?

Worth it!
I am going to use the Rona coupon and pick one up this weekend!
Thanks!

[axelmazda]

any snowblower deals on this weekend?

we'll find out by tomorrow

[axelmazda]

Worth it!
I am going to use the Rona coupon and pick one up this weekend!
Thanks!


Regular price is 649.99 at homedepot.... on sale it is 599.00 at homedepot which is approximately a 7.55% homedepot discount over the regular price so with the Rona discount you get a decent amount off , it would be 649.99 minus 15%+ 13% HST so its pretty much like not paying taxes... I think this is as best as we are going to get it.

now lets see how many people can actually get it at this price


EDIT: Correction HST is 13% in toronto

[hordosr]

Regular price is 649.99 at homedepot.... on sale it is 599.00 at homedepot which is approximately a 7.55% homedepot discount over the regular price so with the Rona discount you get a decent amount off , it would be 649.99 minus 15%+ 15% HST so its pretty much like not paying taxes... I think this is as best as we are going to get it.

now lets see how many people can actually get it at this price

hopefully it is still 599 at HD today, then i am sold and only 10% tax here.

phoned and they had 12 left at my store, coming up on system at 649, hoping for a scan of 599

[axelmazda]

hopefully it is still 599 at HD today, then i am sold and only 10% tax here.

phoned and they had 12 left at my store, coming up on system at 649, hoping for a scan of 599

as far as I know the sales done, either ways you can still get 15% off with the Rona coupon.

Lucky you for 10% tax, we have to pay 13% HST in Toronto

[axelmazda]

I called 4 Ariens independent stores today which were listed at sno-tek.net.... none of them sell sno-tek brand even though their company names is listed in the sno-tek website, the cheapest price I got for a comparable Ariens 24'' was about 400 more than the sno-tek which is quite allot... they dont recommend the Chinese engines but the price difference in my view is to great to ignore the sno-tek altogether.

[direct-x]

I called 4 Ariens independent stores today which were listed at sno-tek.net.... none of them sell sno-tek brand even though their company names is listed in the sno-tek website, the cheapest price I got for a comparable Ariens 24'' was about 400 more than the sno-tek which is quite allot... they dont recommend the Chinese engines but the price difference in my view is to great to ignore the sno-tek altogether.

This whole "chinese crap" engine stuff is complete nonsense. When you consider the uplift in price to get an "american" built engine you can pretty much buy a whole new snow blower if it ever fails.

I highly doubt big name manufacturers would risk tainting their name by putting inferior engines into their products, even if it is in their budget series of blowers.

[andyss]

Picked up a Snow-Tec 24 at HD today using the Rona coupon. Manager said she'll do it for me only this one time ;-)

[djemzine]

I was at HD last night and asked if they would accept the 15% off coupon from Rona and they said yes. I said "even snowblowers" and they said yes!
That brings the 24 inch sno-tek down from $649-551.65!
Are there any major differences between the 20 and 24 inch models besides size? I have never owned a snow blower before so I want to make sure I get the right one.
Thanks!

I wonder if I can try to use that coupon after purchasing it last week :P. Then again I paid $599 + taxes when it was on sale.


looks like 6 forward speeds, 2 reverse speeds compared to single speed on the cheaper one, plus the 4inches in width...$100 more it might be worth it, thoughts?

The remote control deflector?


hopefully it is still 599 at HD today, then i am sold and only 10% tax here.

phoned and they had 12 left at my store, coming up on system at 649, hoping for a scan of 599

That was last week's sale of $599. It went back up to $649 as of last week Thursday.

[window shopper]

http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/Sno-Tek_24_28_4.jpg
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

once again to confirm i went to store and they price matched the "RONA 15% off coupon" with no problem at all in Winnipeg. Hard to find stk in wpg, only 2 left at kenaston store.

+$649.00 PRICE
-$97.35(15% off)
+$9.00 (ECO FEE)
-------------------
$560.65


easy to put together, just need to put chute on and bolt up handle bars. The machine already has new oil in the machine and ready to go. Only problem i had was one of the tires was flat and just need to filled up...

[axelmazda]

http://www.homedepot.ca/wcsstore/HomeDepotCanada/images/catalog/Sno-Tek_24_28_4.jpg
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918481

once again to confirm i went to store and they price matched the "RONA 15% off coupon" with no problem at all in Winnipeg. Hard to find stk in wpg, only 2 left at kenaston store.

+$649.00 PRICE
-$97.35(15% off)
+$9.00 (ECO FEE)
-------------------
$560.65


easy to put together, just need to put chute on and bolt up handle bars. The machine already has new oil in the machine and ready to go. Only problem i had was one of the tires was flat and just need to filled up...


I;ll try it 2moro in Toronto with the Rona coupon and let everyone know how it works..... anyways if anyone is unsure that they want this unit they can just buy it wait 29 days and if they chose to keep it open up the box ... snow doesent come for at least 5-7 weeks anyways.

[hordosr]

Bought the 24 inch snowtech from hd, no prob using the 15% off from Rona. 615 taxes in!

[financeg]

is the 20' model at 549$ a bad deal? everybody seems to be going for the one at 599$. But they both have the same engine. I'm pretty sure this one can do the same job but maybe in more passes:
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480

[666Hunter666]

is the 20' model at 549$ a bad deal? everybody seems to be going for the one at 599$. But they both have the same engine. I'm pretty sure this one can do the same job but maybe in more passes:
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480


The 20" Snow-Tec lacks the remote deflector, 6 forward speeds, 2 reverse speeds. For $100 more to get those functions I would gladly pay for it on the 24" Snow-Tec. Buy what you think suits your budget and space. But my recommendation would be to get the 24" and try to use the Rona 15% off coupon. Which would make the 24" $551.65 before taxes/eco fees. One good thing that the 20" has is that it only weighs 130Lbs compared to the 173 Lbs of the 24".

[financeg]

The 20" Snow-Tec lacks the remote deflector, 6 forward speeds, 2 reverse speeds. For $100 more to get those functions I would gladly pay for it on the 24" Snow-Tec. Buy what you think suits your budget and space. But my recommendation would be to get the 24" and try to use the Rona 15% off coupon. Which would make the 24" $551.65 before taxes/eco fees. One good thing that the 20" has is that it only weighs 130Lbs compared to the 173 Lbs of the 24".


I think I'll go with the 20'. I went in store and even with no reverse speeds, the blower is so light that it can easily be backed up or pushed, with little effort. Plus, on more thing that can go bad on it (gears). As for the deflector, there is only only plastic thing to turn and it can be easily adjusted. The one thing I didn't like about the 20' vs 24' is that the deflector itself , the body is made out of plastic on the 20' and it's metal on the 24'.
At 549$ with 15% off I think it's a good deal.

[hordosr]

I think I'll go with the 20'. I went in store and even with no reverse speeds, the blower is so light that it can easily be backed up or pushed, with little effort. Plus, on more thing that can go bad on it (gears). As for the deflector, there is only only plastic thing to turn and it can be easily adjusted. The one thing I didn't like about the 20' vs 24' is that the deflector itself , the body is made out of plastic on the 20' and it's metal on the 24'.
At 549$ with 15% off I think it's a good deal.

yah the metal deflector was a big selling point for me, suppose to get a bit of snow this weekend so will see how things go

[axelmazda]

I think I'll go with the 20'. I went in store and even with no reverse speeds, the blower is so light that it can easily be backed up or pushed, with little effort. Plus, on more thing that can go bad on it (gears). As for the deflector, there is only only plastic thing to turn and it can be easily adjusted. The one thing I didn't like about the 20' vs 24' is that the deflector itself , the body is made out of plastic on the 20' and it's metal on the 24'.
At 549$ with 15% off I think it's a good deal.



on The Rona coupon it says offer can be combined with sales iteams so you would get 549- 15% which is 477.00..... You will never find a price lower than this even at the end of the season, Iam personally going for the 24inch maybe today

another thing people need to know is that these snow blowers dont go all the way to the ground, they leave about 0.2 inches of snow on the ground which means you have to go over it with a shovel afterwards

[member2004]

Guys, is it worth to spend extra money(~$300) to buy ariens 24 inch compact rather than 24inch snow-tek? I am on the fence to buy which one?
please advice me...thanks

[marksmithy69]

I have no idea if this is a good deal or not, but this model is on sale for $649 this week (the website still says $699, but the flyer shows $649)...

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-205cc-dual-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1696097


Also, Sears has their scratch and save this weekend as well. Does anyone know if scratch and save coupons can be used on snowblowers? Thanks.

[ndog2]

Guys, is it worth to spend extra money(~$300) to buy ariens 24 inch compact rather than 24inch snow-tek? I am on the fence to buy which one?
please advice me...thanks

Is a B&S engine, light and cast iron gear case worth $300 to you? On the compact line that's the only difference. I think they share the same frame. The sno-tek 24" especially when on sale or combined with the rona coupon repersents probably the best value 2 stage snowblower out there.


I have no idea if this is a good deal or not, but this model is on sale for $649 this week (the website still says $699, but the flyer shows $649)...

Also, Sears has their scratch and save this weekend as well. Does anyone know if scratch and save coupons can be used on snowblowers? Thanks.

You'll have to check the fine print on the scratch card; usually there's a different box for big ticket items where it's $10,$20,$50 off instead of 10%,20% 50% or whatever the values are. The card will say which items fit into the % off or $ off.

I don't think that snow blower is a good deal tho; that's the B&s built base model same as the canadiana at lowes and the murray at walmart. It's the bare minimum of features look back a several pages we talked about that (as the lowes / wm model) and compared with the sno-tek. For a similar price (or way less with the coupon) you get many many more features. If you really want that particular model take the rona coupon to lowes and buy the canadiana. It's on at lowes for $598 this week literally the exact same thing except for the stickers, add the 15% off rona coupon and you get it for almost $150 less than sears.

[cavuu]

Bought the 24 inch snowtech from hd, no prob using the 15% off from Rona. 615 taxes in!
My HD in Owen Sound said no on the Rona 15%. Said they would only price match identical items.

[axelmazda]

My HD in Owen Sound said no on the Rona 15%. Said they would only price match identical items.

go to a diffrent HD, I have 3 homedepots within 10km radius in Toronto

[ndog2]

My HD in Owen Sound said no on the Rona 15%. Said they would only price match identical items.

The official policy is only matching on identical items. But unofficially because of the level of competition HD, Rona and Lowe's always match each others sales and coupons when they apply on any product or category. None of them want to lose out on a sale especially on a big ticket item. Try speaking to someone else at the store (go back when a different shift would be on) or try another near by location.

[cavuu]

go to a diffrent HD, I have 3 homedepots within 10km radius in Toronto
I phoned them and the sales person spoke to the manager and he quoted the official line re price matching. I even mentioned others were successful with a price match, still no joy.
Unfortunately the closest HD is 1:15 from home and everything else is at least 2 hours away so driving around to price match isn't very practical.
Will have to wait for an official sale!

[vwfun]

I have no idea if this is a good deal or not, but this model is on sale for $649 this week (the website still says $699, but the flyer shows $649)...

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-205cc-dual-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1696097


Also, Sears has their scratch and save this weekend as well. Does anyone know if scratch and save coupons can be used on snowblowers? Thanks.

Already looked into this earlier this week, and in the actual flyer's fine print, lawn equipment and snow removal equipment are EXCLUDED.
(as well as some other stuff)
I actually posted this earlier (I think a page or 2 ago) but easy to miss on a 41 page thread.

Cheers.

[window shopper]

I phoned them and the sales person spoke to the manager and he quoted the official line re price matching. I even mentioned others were successful with a price match, still no joy.
Unfortunately the closest HD is 1:15 from home and everything else is at least 2 hours away so driving around to price match isn't very practical.
Will have to wait for an official sale!

thats strange when i used the coupon the cashier didnt even get a manager and just adjusted it.

[Darryl]

I picked up a 2 year old Murray Pro Series 10hp and 30" wide for $440 on Kijiji the other night. This ends my Sale search.

Problem is, I can't find much about this model anywhere on the internet. Not even on Murray's or Briggs and Straton's websites. I was hoping to find an owners manual.

I think the belt that spins the auger is a little loose, so I want to take that apart and get that winter ready. And also, one of the cables (think bicycle brake cable) is broken on the chute controls, so it only turns in one direction for now.

All in all though, I think it was still worth the $440.

[hempopotamus]

Easier said then done in Grey Bruce County. Hi Home Depot in OWen Sound will be the closest for at least another 60 minutes or more.



go to a diffrent HD, I have 3 homedepots within 10km radius in Toronto

[ndog2]

I picked up a 2 year old Murray Pro Series 10hp and 30" wide for $440 on Kijiji the other night. This ends my Sale search.

Problem is, I can't find much about this model anywhere on the internet. Not even on Murray's or Briggs and Straton's websites. I was hoping to find an owners manual.

I think the belt that spins the auger is a little loose, so I want to take that apart and get that winter ready. And also, one of the cables (think bicycle brake cable) is broken on the chute controls, so it only turns in one direction for now.

All in all though, I think it was still worth the $440.


Without the exact model number it's very difficult to find the manual. It does have a B&S engine right not a Tecumseh? 2 years old should have a B&S engine marked in TP"Total power" or in CC. If it's marked in HP and has a Tecumseh Snow King engine that was made before the murray bankruptcy (and B&S purchase) It's also probably more than 2 years old; 2007 maybe.

[koston78]

i just did a price match at home depot for the ariens deluxe 30" and a make a good deal.

Just print the ottawa good center web page with the ariens 30" deluxe and bring it to home depot and you done a big deal here.

Home depot sell the 30 deluxe for 1599.00 and ottawa good center sell for 1299.95. You have 300$ in price and with the 10% you get another 130$ of discount for a total of 430$

I get the ariens deluxe 30" with taxe at home depot for 1332.87. Im still below their retail price. I get a 30 " for the price of 28" and i have the hand warmer.

Remember print the home depot politic price because the manager try to only price match because the dealer was in ottawa and i buy in quebec, but with the home depot politic i got in hand they said retail in canada. So i got the the price match with the 10%.

Enjoy the deal

[vwfun]

i just did a price match at home depot for the ariens deluxe 30" and a make a good deal.

Just print the ottawa good center web page with the ariens 30" deluxe and bring it to home depot and you done a big deal here.

Home depot sell the 30 deluxe for 1599.00 and ottawa good center sell for 1299.95. You have 300$ in price and with the 10% you get another 130$ of discount for a total of 430$

I get the ariens deluxe 30" with taxe at home depot for 1332.87. Im still below their retail price. I get a 30 " for the price of 28" and i have the hand warmer.

Remember print the home depot politic price because the manager try to only price match because the dealer was in ottawa and i buy in quebec, but with the home depot politic i got in hand they said retail in canada. So i got the the price match with the 10%.

Enjoy the deal

I'm happy for you. I would have gladly bought the 30" deluxe for what you paid.
They try to dismiss / excuse by saying the page doesn't include an exact part #. (even when Arien's own website has no part #, only *line* + size
i.e. compact 24 / deluxe 28 / profession 28 / etc

[darcyh]

LCT engines also come with fuel shut off valve, throttle control, and the cover for the recoil is screwed. Again, only time will tell how long this unit last but I have yet to find anyone with big problems using the LCT engine. I'm not sure about briggs and stratton but reading the engines manual for the LCT motor, it recommends that the oil be changed after the first month of use. I'm sure how well your machine performs will have a lot to do with how well you maintain it.

I repair and rebuild small engines. I cannot speak to the quality of LCT engines but your advice is right on. Given the amount of aluminum in any modern engine it's a good idea to change the oil frequently.

With all my new small engines I run them about 15 minutes and change oil to get all the crap out of them. Then after about 2 hours of run time another oil change. Oil is cheap! After that another oil change at about 10 hours, then on to a regular yearly oil change using synthetic 0W30 Castrol. Of course this depends on how many hours you run the engine.

The first two oil changes are critical.

Regards
Dave

[axelmazda]

can we get a poll of how many people successfully got 15% HD 24 inch Sno-Tek with Rona coupon?

[djemzine]

can we get a poll of how many people successfully got 15% HD 24 inch Sno-Tek with Rona coupon?

+1 even after purchasing it and still can do a price protection or whatever.

[pmacgill]

unfortunately unsuccessful @ Dartmouth Crossing & Moncton...got the infamous leave your name schtick...:mad:

[Darryl]

Without the exact model number it's very difficult to find the manual. It does have a B&S engine right not a Tecumseh? 2 years old should have a B&S engine marked in TP"Total power" or in CC. If it's marked in HP and has a Tecumseh Snow King engine that was made before the murray bankruptcy (and B&S purchase) It's also probably more than 2 years old; 2007 maybe.

Thanks ndog2, this is excellent information to know. I believe that the model itself is older than 2 years - he said he bought it new from Canex (Military store) and this would be it's 3rd winter. The model is 630106X31, the serial number is 112906M 002019 and the Product/Maintenance Level(?) is 961970012 00.

It says 'Briggs and Stratton Power Products' on the label affixed to the auger bell housing containing the information above, but the sticker on the gas tank says 'Tecumseh Snow King'.

Cosmetically it looks almost brand new and started on the first pull (also has electric starter that works). And it has the newer style tires with the big rectangular lugs. I found a kijiji ad in Ottawa that has pictures of the exact same one, so I'll post a link to that rather than posting my own.

http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-tools-equipment-Murray-Pro-Series-30-10-0HP-2-Stage-Power-Propelled-Snowblower-W0QQAdIdZ324581331

Darryl

[Darryl]

unfortunately unsuccessful @ Dartmouth Crossing & Moncton...got the infamous leave your name schtick...:mad:

I find the Home Depot in Dartmouth Crossing to not be very good with customer service. Try the one in Halifax (Bayer's Lake) as they have a Kent and Rona right near them.

[member2004]

I got sno-tek 24' with 15% rona coupon at HD.
:)

[ndog2]

Thanks ndog2, this is excellent information to know. I believe that the model itself is older than 2 years - he said he bought it new from Canex (Military store) and this would be it's 3rd winter. The model is 630106X31, the serial number is 112906M 002019 and the Product/Maintenance Level(?) is 961970012 00.

It says 'Briggs and Stratton Power Products' on the label affixed to the auger bell housing containing the information above, but the sticker on the gas tank says 'Tecumseh Snow King'.

Cosmetically it looks almost brand new and started on the first pull (also has electric starter that works). And it has the newer style tires with the big rectangular lugs. I found a kijiji ad in Ottawa that has pictures of the exact same one, so I'll post a link to that rather than posting my own.

http://ottawa.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-tools-equipment-Murray-Pro-Series-30-10-0HP-2-Stage-Power-Propelled-Snowblower-W0QQAdIdZ324581331

Darryl


I was staring at the picture for a while thinking it didn't look right. You know why: Briggs & Stratton / murray /didn't make this. AYP/Poulan/Husqvarna made this snow blower. The model number is murray but all the parts are AYP, they rebadged it or bought the parts. My best guess is it's still 2007, I'm not sure why I said that was made before the murray bankruptcy. I'll chalk that up to not enough coffee.

If yours is in as good a shape at that one you got a great deal. Unfortunately I don't think you'll be able to find a manual on line many of the older Murray products have zero online support. It should be possible to still get parts and manuals but I think you're going to have to call B&S directly or maybe visit a local dealer to see if you can get a parts list especially since they're all going to be AYP parts. AYP makes poulan pro and many craftsman. If you can find the poulan or craftsman that's the same it's manual and parts list will apply here.

[nicktech]

Got the Sno-Tek 24" at HD in Lachenaie and successfully applied the Rona 15% discount....561$ +tx
Took all of 2 minutes to get sales rep to get ok from manager.

I didn't even have to show the printing rebate.

And you also get 12 months interest free....I never say no to that :)

Hopefully the Sno-Tek will last 8-10 years

[axelmazda]

went into home depot, I got the 15% off 649 which came to a discount of 97 dollars which is more than HD sales price will ever give anyone ( lowest hd discount rate is 7.55% which comes to 599.99), no hassle at all, it just took them a while to bring it down with a forklift,

total came out to 623.36 after taxes..............over 450 dollars less than a comparable ariens , the frame, chute, auger , transmission is all the same as the sno-tek... only differene is the light , engine ( Chinese vs American), orange colour and 5 year warranty versus the 2 year for the snotek.

[axelmazda]

if anyone is interested in the manual for the engine on the 24 sno-tek , you can check it here

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northerntool.com%2Fdow nloads%2Fmanuals%2F60912.pdf

[djemzine]

if anyone is interested in the manual for the engine on the 24 sno-tek , you can check it here

https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.northerntool.com%2Fdow nloads%2Fmanuals%2F60912.pdf

That the 138CC or 208CC variant?

[axelmazda]

That the 138CC or 208CC variant?

its this years model, 208 cc

[ndog2]

a comparable ariens transmission is all the same as the sno-tek.

Just for the sake of being complete the sno-tek has an aluminum gear case with alloy steel gears while the ariens has cast iron. Probably won't make a difference to the average homeowner.

[axelmazda]

Just for the sake of being complete the sno-tek has an aluminum gear case with alloy steel gears while the ariens has cast iron. Probably won't make a difference to the average homeowner.

as long as you run it at the proper speed it wouldent make a difference to 99% of users... this means when you have 20 inches of snow dont run the machine at 6mph go 1mph

[wilsonlam97]

Just for the sake of being complete the sno-tek has an aluminum gear case with alloy steel gears while the ariens has cast iron. Probably won't make a difference to the average homeowner.

I heard cast iron is much stronger and its better when it comes to the longevity of the snowblower.

[direct-x]

Absolutely no luck getting online CSR's to honor the 15% off Rona coupon. Also tried to get my shipping charges refunded for the blower I ordered last week, no luck. I had gone to 5 or 6 HD's in my area. None had stock of the model I was looking for.

I ended up buying online and ate a 65 dollar shipping charge. On top of this shipping charge, I need to take a day off from work waiting for the freight company to come.

I was told by two clerks at two different locations that they were OOS on the Sno-tek24 and were not expecting new shipments for another 5-6 weeks. The sale at $599 was ending that day, so I felt online was the only way to get the deal. I had to fight with online that day for about 30 minutes to get the $599 price. They kept stating only the 20 was on sale.

Low and behold, I saw tons of the 24 in stock today when I was purchasing some LED lights for xmas. I was extremely fumed. Store manager would not do anything to credit me, nor would online. I essentially overpaid when everyone else is getting the 15% off coupon honored and are able to pick up their order directly in store.

Anyone have an e-mail address or phone number for corporate headquarters?

I am very tempted to return my Ariens deluxe and refusing the Sno-tek when it arrives Monday just on principle. I am very tempted to take my business elsewhere.

[axelmazda]

for those interested in knowing how much the 22 and 24 inch sno tek last year was, I went through the 2009/2010 thread and from what I saw it was 599 for the 22 and 699 for the 24 last year with a best sale price of 10% discount, so who ever got the 15% Rona discount this year , you can be rest assured that HD wont have it for any cheaper than you bought it, even in cleranance end of season sales.


P.S last years LCT engines did not come with electric start, auto chute and it was a the 136cc engine not the 208cc that we have this year.

[axelmazda]

I heard cast iron is much stronger and its better when it comes to the longevity of the snowblower.


True but for regular use I really dont see a problem with it, especially in Toronto.

[axelmazda]

Absolutely no luck getting online CSR's to honor the 15% off Rona coupon. Also tried to get my shipping charges refunded for the blower I ordered last week, no luck. I had gone to 5 or 6 HD's in my area. None had stock of the model I was looking for.

I ended up buying online and ate a 65 dollar shipping charge. On top of this shipping charge, I need to take a day off from work waiting for the freight company to come.

I was told by two clerks at two different locations that they were OOS on the Sno-tek24 and were not expecting new shipments for another 5-6 weeks. The sale at $599 was ending that day, so I felt online was the only way to get the deal. I had to fight with online that day for about 30 minutes to get the $599 price. They kept stating only the 20 was on sale.

Low and behold, I saw tons of the 24 in stock today when I was purchasing some LED lights for xmas. I was extremely fumed. Store manager would not do anything to credit me, nor would online. I essentially overpaid when everyone else is getting the 15% off coupon honored and are able to pick up their order directly in store.

Anyone have an e-mail address or phone number for corporate headquarters?

I am very tempted to return my Ariens deluxe and refusing the Sno-tek when it arrives Monday just on principle. I am very tempted to take my business elsewhere.

I am wondering if you return it ( which I would do if I were you ) would you get your freight charges back?

I did a bit of research for you, here is the info for the people you need to contact

Home Depot Canada - Head Office
900-1 Concorde Gate
North York, ON
M3C 4H9
(416) 609-0852
Fax: (416) 412-6791

Customer Service 1-800-668-2266

http://www.homedepot.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ContentView?pn=Contact_Us&langId=-1&storeId=10051&catalogId=10053&locStoreNum=121
http://www.homedepot.ca/communityaffairs/content/en_CA/CAOurLeadership.html
http://www.ziplocal.ca/companies/640509-Home-Depot-Canada-Head-Office


you can send them an e-mail through their website.... first link or e-mail: consumeraffairs@homedepot.com


hope this helps

[djemzine]

Absolutely no luck getting online CSR's to honor the 15% off Rona coupon. Also tried to get my shipping charges refunded for the blower I ordered last week, no luck. I had gone to 5 or 6 HD's in my area. None had stock of the model I was looking for.

I ended up buying online and ate a 65 dollar shipping charge. On top of this shipping charge, I need to take a day off from work waiting for the freight company to come.

I was told by two clerks at two different locations that they were OOS on the Sno-tek24 and were not expecting new shipments for another 5-6 weeks. The sale at $599 was ending that day, so I felt online was the only way to get the deal. I had to fight with online that day for about 30 minutes to get the $599 price. They kept stating only the 20 was on sale.

Low and behold, I saw tons of the 24 in stock today when I was purchasing some LED lights for xmas. I was extremely fumed. Store manager would not do anything to credit me, nor would online. I essentially overpaid when everyone else is getting the 15% off coupon honored and are able to pick up their order directly in store.

Anyone have an e-mail address or phone number for corporate headquarters?

I am very tempted to return my Ariens deluxe and refusing the Sno-tek when it arrives Monday just on principle. I am very tempted to take my business elsewhere.

Yikes, sorry to hear that. Hopefully HD gives me a call to let me know when my Sno Tek can be delivered... ordered it last week on the 26th

[ndog2]

as long as you run it at the proper speed it wouldent make a difference to 99% of users... this means when you have 20 inches of snow dont run the machine at 6mph go 1mph
Yea it won't but it's still an important distinction between the lines and people should be aware.


for those interested in knowing how much the 22 and 24 inch sno tek last year was, I went through the 2009/2010 thread and from what I saw it was 599 for the 22 and 699 for the 24 last year with a best sale price of 10% discount

Last year the biggest discount before the clearance was when Lowe's did a 20% off all snow blowers sale. The 15% off is a good deal unless you really want to roll the dice on the 20%.


Absolutely no luck getting online CSR's to honor the 15% off Rona coupon. Also tried to get my shipping charges refunded for the blower I ordered last week, no luck. I had gone to 5 or 6 HD's in my area. None had stock of the model I was looking for.


Get the corporate contact info from the website and talk to them, you can almost certainly get the $65 back and probably something for your trouble too they screwed up not you.

[axelmazda]

Last year the biggest discount before the clearance was when Lowe's did a 20% off all snow blowers sale. The 15% off is a good deal unless you really want to roll the dice on the 20%.

If you can use other stores coupons at HD, their is a way to save more than 20%, even up to 50% in some cases, we have to wait and see what comes along, I bought mine already but I am not opening it for 29 days till I am sure their is no other better deal out their.

[Starxin]

It took me some time to find these info about Sno-tek 24 from Internet. Hope it helps.

http://www.sno-tek.net/products/sno-tek-24.html

English Owners Manual (http://apache.ariens.com/manuals/04335200B_ENG.pdf)

English Parts Manual (http://apache.ariens.com/manuals/04335300A.pdf)


http://youtu.be/mkeTWYHJYwA

:D

[djemzine]

It took me some time to find these info about Sno-tek 24 from Internet. Hope it helps.

http://www.sno-tek.net/products/sno-tek-24.html

English Owners Manual (http://apache.ariens.com/manuals/04335200B_ENG.pdf)

English Parts Manual (http://apache.ariens.com/manuals/04335300A.pdf)


http://youtu.be/mkeTWYHJYwA

:D

Thanks

[axelmazda]

anyone know if I should be buying regular 87 octane fuel for the snotek or 94 octane ( best available).

heres my options
http://www.petro-canada.ca/en/wholesalefuel/314.aspx

[abstracted]

anyone know if I should be buying regular 87 octane fuel for the snotek or 94 octane ( best available).

heres my options
http://www.petro-canada.ca/en/wholesalefuel/314.aspx

From the LCT website (http://www.lctusa.com/page.cfm?sp=detail&i=8#2):

Regular Unleaded 87 Octane Gasoline (10% Ethonal blend can be used with LCT engines. E-85 can NOT be used.)

[abstracted]

Tried using the Rona 15% off today and they refused, stating that they are selling the snow blowers like crazy right now so there's no reason to discount them. He told me to try later in the season when they have hit their sales quotas and want to get rid of stock. Then the salesman told me he's starting a snow removal service and gave me his number LOL.

[VictorT]

I got acall from a friend who works at Sears Oshawa center. They have 7 of these snow blowers that they are selling for $649.00 Nov 7 to 10th only. They are currently onsale on the website for $949.00 but Sears Oshawa is selling them for $300 less.
Here is the link:
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-277cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TF599

[axelmazda]

Tried using the Rona 15% off today and they refused, stating that they are selling the snow blowers like crazy right now so there's no reason to discount them. He told me to try later in the season when they have hit their sales quotas and want to get rid of stock. Then the salesman told me he's starting a snow removal service and gave me his number LOL.

what a joke, dont talk to sales associates regarding things like this, you need to talk to the manager, sales associates have no authority what so ever to give any sort of discount unless its approved by a manager first via phone call or in person, I know this for a fact.

[axelmazda]

From the LCT website (http://www.lctusa.com/page.cfm?sp=detail&i=8#2):

the manual says the same thing, not sure how to find out if its less than 10% though

[djpositivek]

I find the Home Depot in Dartmouth Crossing to not be very good with customer service. Try the one in Halifax (Bayer's Lake) as they have a Kent and Rona right near them.

Tried the Halifax Home Depot and they wouldn't match the coupon. Asked at Customer Service but after she called someone (assuming Manager) they would not match it. Was going to buy the 24" Sno-Tek but instead I left empty handed. >:(

[axelmazda]

I got acall from a friend who works at Sears Oshawa center. They have 7 of these snow blowers that they are selling for $649.00 Nov 7 to 10th only. They are currently onsale on the website for $949.00 but Sears Oshawa is selling them for $300 less.
Here is the link:
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-277cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TF599

if its true than it has to be the best deal of all time ... 651 dollar discount seems unlikely though, let us know if you get it at 649.00, i'll be glad to return my sno tek and drive an hour to Oshawa to pick this up

[valve]

for those interested in knowing how much the 22 and 24 inch sno tek last year was, I went through the 2009/2010 thread and from what I saw it was 599 for the 22 and 699 for the 24 last year with a best sale price of 10% discount, so who ever got the 15% Rona discount this year , you can be rest assured that HD wont have it for any cheaper than you bought it, even in cleranance end of season sales.


P.S last years LCT engines did not come with electric start, auto chute and it was a the 136cc engine not the 208cc that we have this year.

Best price for the 24" was $499.99. I know as I bought one at that price. Was around September / October time frame, door crasher special.

valve

[ndog2]

the manual says the same thing, not sure how to find out if its less than 10% though
If gas contains any ethanol it's marked (and required to be marked) on the pump. Pretty much everything except shell v-power gold contains upto 10% ethanol. This is E-10 gas. The warnings are saying don't use E-85 which is mostly alcohol, only certain engines which are designed to run e-85 can. Around the GTA not much E-85 is sold.


Tried the Halifax Home Depot and they wouldn't match the coupon. Asked at Customer Service but after she called someone (assuming Manager) they would not match it. Was going to buy the 24" Sno-Tek but instead I left empty handed. >:(


what a joke, dont talk to sales associates regarding things like this, you need to talk to the manager, sales associates have no authority what so ever to give any sort of discount unless its approved by a manager first via phone call or in person, I know this for a fact.

The Official policy is to match in stock same items only. In places where there are Rona, Lowe's, Home Hardware, Independant places, etc. HD, Lowe's and Rona take each other's sales and you don't even need the manager they'll do it right at the checkout. But in smaller markets like the Maritimes or Owen Sound as we've seen they may not. Here if they say no you can travel a couple KM and go to 5 different home centres but in places you can't they're much more guarded about the discounts.

[djpositivek]

The Official policy is to match in stock same items only. In places where there are Rona, Lowe's, Home Hardware, Independant places, etc. HD, Lowe's and Rona take each other's sales and you don't even need the manager they'll do it right at the checkout. But in smaller markets like the Maritimes or Owen Sound as we've seen they may not. Here if they say no you can travel a couple KM and go to 5 different home centres but in places you can't they're much more guarded about the discounts.

I knew they didn't have to accept it based on their policy. Halifax isn't really a "smaller" market as we have many competitors nearby (Rona, Kent, Home Hardware etc...) The only one we're missing that I can think of is Lowe's. But the mentality around here is different, they don't seem to care about competitors or losing sales. I went to check out the snowblowers at Rona but they didn't have anything in the same price range as Sno-Tek. According to another member, the HD in Dartmouth and Moncton also refused to match the Rona 15% discount.

[VictorT]

if its true than it has to be the best deal of all time ... 651 dollar discount seems unlikely though, let us know if you get it at 649.00, i'll be glad to return my sno tek and drive an hour to Oshawa to pick this up

I gave him a deposit as the deal only starts tommorow. Ask for Dan

[djemzine]

Got the Rona 15% off coupon applied to my Sno Tek 24" order that I placed last week. Bought it for $599 when it was on sale + deliver and taxes which came to $734 ish on the HD card. Went to the same store I bought it - Richmond Hill North location and went to the nice/helpful CSR. Told her that I have a Rona coupon here for 15% and would like to do a price protection on an order I've already placed. After the coupon was applied, I got a refund of $101.15 back on the HD card. So theoretically the balance to pay is $633.85 (the snow blower + delivery + taxes).

Job well done might I say so myself.

[axelmazda]

Best price for the 24" was $499.99. I know as I bought one at that price. Was around September / October time frame, door crasher special.

valve

your most likely talking about last years 24inch model with the 136cc engine which is on sale this year as a clearance iteam at HD for 499 on sale.

[axelmazda]

Got the Rona 15% off coupon applied to my Sno Tek 24" order that I placed last week. Bought it for $599 when it was on sale + deliver and taxes which came to $734 ish on the HD card. Went to the same store I bought it - Richmond Hill North location and went to the nice/helpful CSR. Told her that I have a Rona coupon here for 15% and would like to do a price protection on an order I've already placed. After the coupon was applied, I got a refund of $101.15 back on the HD card. So theoretically the balance to pay is $633.85 (the snow blower + delivery + taxes).

Job well done might I say so myself.

You got it as the best possible pricing, this means you got about a 21.5% discount over regular price of 649.00, I will be doing the same thing next week if it goes on sale again for 599

[IcedUpSquirrel]

Sounds like the Sno-Tek is a pretty hot deal if you can get HD to match the 15% coupon from Rona, but for me, living in Vancouver, I think I'll be alright with a Toro, and that's what I ended up getting today. Went to the Richmond HD today, and got them to give me 15% off a Toro (original price $499). Thanks for everyone's help and contributions - it's been great learning things from you guys! Hopefully you all get the snow blower/thrower that you're looking for - and at a great price too!

[pmacgill]

...But in smaller markets like the Maritimes or Owen Sound as we've seen they may not. Here if they say no you can travel a couple KM and go to 5 different home centres but in places you can't they're much more guarded about the discounts.

we have those stores...HRM is small, but ~ 350k, we do not have a Lowes, we have all the other stores you mentioned.

Anyways I called Halifax and still no luck. Asked the associate and they said to fill out a form on-line about the inconsistencies of this situation happening. Not logically getting the "were smaller" market either. It's BS as far as I am concerned.

Anyways thanks to all the posters who post snowblower deals. Apparently I will continue to look, while keeping an eye on perhaps Black Friday sales...

[ndog2]

I knew they didn't have to accept it based on their policy. Halifax isn't really a "smaller" market as we have many competitors nearby (Rona, Kent, Home Hardware etc...) The only one we're missing that I can think of is Lowe's. But the mentality around here is different, they don't seem to care about competitors or losing sales. I went to check out the snowblowers at Rona but they didn't have anything in the same price range as Sno-Tek. According to another member, the HD in Dartmouth and Moncton also refused to match the Rona 15% discount.

Sorry I didn't mean to insinuate anything or be negative by using the term smaller I just meant for example in the GTA within say a 30-45 minute drive there are 12 lowe's stores, almost 20 home depots, and 8 rona's. Competition is stiff and everyone is fighting for sales so the official policy can get a little loose.

Pretty much all of the snow blowers rona offers are MTD built and not really that great of a deal as you can often find the same thing elsewhere for less money.

Maybe try the homedepot.ca reps to see if you can convince someone to honour the discount. No one's been successful yet but it might be worth spending 10 minutes giving it shot.


It's BS as far as I am concerned.


I totally agree it's not fair; it might be worth writing to homedepot, they're always going on about customer satisfaction.

[direct-x]

Got the Rona 15% off coupon applied to my Sno Tek 24" order that I placed last week. Bought it for $599 when it was on sale + deliver and taxes which came to $734 ish on the HD card. Went to the same store I bought it - Richmond Hill North location and went to the nice/helpful CSR. Told her that I have a Rona coupon here for 15% and would like to do a price protection on an order I've already placed. After the coupon was applied, I got a refund of $101.15 back on the HD card. So theoretically the balance to pay is $633.85 (the snow blower + delivery + taxes).

Job well done might I say so myself.

Awesome. Unfortunately they would not do the same for me. Going to be contacting corporate tomorrow morning to try to get this straightened out.

If anyone has a sales receipt for the Sno-tek 24 that shows the 15% off Rona discount, I'd really appreciate a copy to use as proof when I make my case with Home Depot tomorrow morning.

[djemzine]

Awesome. Unfortunately they would not do the same for me. Going to be contacting corporate tomorrow morning to try to get this straightened out.

If anyone has a sales receipt for the Sno-tek 24 that shows the 15% off Rona discount, I'd really appreciate a copy to use as proof when I make my case with Home Depot tomorrow morning.

Sorry to hear that. Check your PM.

[window shopper]

interesting article regarding the snotek

http://www.jsonline.com/business/69023327.html

also a recall notice i believe on last years model

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml11/11137.html

[20red]

Sounds like the Sno-Tek is a pretty hot deal if you can get HD to match the 15% coupon from Rona, but for me, living in Vancouver, I think I'll be alright with a Toro, and that's what I ended up getting today. Went to the Richmond HD today, and got them to give me 15% off a Toro (original price $499). Thanks for everyone's help and contributions - it's been great learning things from you guys! Hopefully you all get the snow blower/thrower that you're looking for - and at a great price too!

I was the Richmond BC Home Depot today too, I got the Sno Tek 24" with no problem using the 15% off Rona coupon. They have 5 available plus the floor model left. I live in North Vancouver, BC where we usually get high amounts of snow than the Vancouver city, so I think the Sno Tek was the right choice for me.

Called first to check stock, (online search said 6 available) and to confirm use of the Rona coupon. All good, no problems.

PRICE 649.00
Discount 15% 97.35
ECO FEE 10.00
HST 12% 67.40
TOTAL 629.05 :D

Thanks a bunch everyone!!

[axelmazda]

I was the Richmond BC Home Depot today too, I got the Sno Tek 24" with no problem using the 15% off Rona coupon. They have 5 available plus the floor model left. I live in North Vancouver, BC where we usually get high amounts of snow than the Vancouver city, so I think the Sno Tek was the right choice for me.

Called first to check stock, (online search said 6 available) and to confirm use of the Rona coupon. All good, no problems.

PRICE 649.00
Discount 15% 97.35
ECO FEE 10.00
HST 12% 67.40
TOTAL 629.05 :D

Thanks a bunch everyone!!

I cant believe people are still being forced to pay the sneaky underhanded eco fee, its ridiculous and its not even used to protect the environment.

[axelmazda]

interesting article regarding the snotek

http://www.jsonline.com/business/69023327.html

also a recall notice i believe on last years model

http://www.cpsc.gov/cpscpub/prerel/prhtml11/11137.html

very good article, thanks for posting, in the article it mentions that they did hundreds of hours of testing which I believe but it is also a fact that last years 136cc engine was no good for north american winters, especially in Canada so they switched over to a beefier 208cc engine this year

[abstracted]

what a joke, dont talk to sales associates regarding things like this, you need to talk to the manager, sales associates have no authority what so ever to give any sort of discount unless its approved by a manager first via phone call or in person, I know this for a fact.

I missed the boat on this sale and endd up going late on a Sunday afternoon, so I assumed that there wouldn't be a real 'manager' working at that time and would end up talking to a 'acting manager' if I asked for one anyways so I just tried it on the sales associate with no luck. He knew that Rona didn't have a snow blower comparable to the 24" Sno-Tek or it might have been a different story.



The Official policy is to match in stock same items only. In places where there are Rona, Lowe's, Home Hardware, Independant places, etc. HD, Lowe's and Rona take each other's sales and you don't even need the manager they'll do it right at the checkout. But in smaller markets like the Maritimes or Owen Sound as we've seen they may not. Here if they say no you can travel a couple KM and go to 5 different home centres but in places you can't they're much more guarded about the discounts.

Around here (Edmonton) the stores don't seem to care. I have 3 home depots, 1 lowes, and 3 ronas all with a 10 minute drive from me. I've never been successful getting them to compete; They don't seem to care about getting or losing business around here. I once tried getting the manager at Rona to price match a similar bbq from HD with no luck. Another time, I wanted a specific BBQ and they only had a floor model so he tried to sell me that. I wanted a discount but instead he wanted to charge me +$80 because it was already assembled LOL.

[axelmazda]

Around here (Edmonton) the stores don't seem to care. I have 3 home depots, 1 lowes, and 3 ronas all with a 10 minute drive from me. I've never been successful getting them to compete; They don't seem to care about getting or losing business around here. I once tried getting the manager at Rona to price match a similar bbq from HD with no luck. Another time, I wanted a specific BBQ and they only had a floor model so he tried to sell me that. I wanted a discount but instead he wanted to charge me +$80 because it was already assembled LOL.



In reality he should have given you minimum 100 dollars off, have you ever seen how they assemble products at big box stores? 99% of the time its done completely wrong and unsafe, especially for things like snow blowers, lawn mowers and BBQ,

It seems getting the 15% discount involved luck more than anything.

[theskydiveguy]

I bought the 20" - it's all I will need.

I gave the guy my coupon who was helping me - he called the manager - the manager read the coupon - then shook my hand and thanked me for shopping at HD and authorized the cashier to take 15% off no problem.. It's a shame that I spent my drive to the store gearing up for a long diatribe about competition and business etc.. :)

Good luck to all and thanks for saving me $83..

[sonyminidiscman]

VictorT Posted yesterday...CRAFTSMAN®/MD 26'' 277cc Dual Stage Snow Blower with EZ Steer is now $50% off


It is now $649.99 and can order online. even has heated hand grips!

[saint2e]

VictorT Posted yesterday...CRAFTSMAN®/MD 26'' 277cc Dual Stage Snow Blower with EZ Steer is now $50% off


It is now $649.99 and can order online. even has heated hand grips!

Wow... Buyer's remorse for the 24" Sno-Tek I bought 2 weeks ago has just set in upon seeing this deal.

If you have not pulled the trigger one a snowblower yet, this is probably your best deal now.

[jayshahu]

Wow... Buyer's remorse for the 24" Sno-Tek I bought 2 weeks ago has just set in upon seeing this deal.

If you have not pulled the trigger one a snowblower yet, this is probably your best deal now.

Checked the specs out. It has a craftsman engine. Should I be concerned?

[window shopper]

Wow... Buyer's remorse for the 24" Sno-Tek I bought 2 weeks ago has just set in upon seeing this deal.

If you have not pulled the trigger one a snowblower yet, this is probably your best deal now.

link for everyone:


http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-277cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TF599

[abstracted]

So:

- 2" bigger than the Sno-Tek
- hand warmers
- ez-steer
- lights
- bigger engine

Anything else? Is that worth $100 more?

[f2chow]

Holy crap x2 on the buyer's remorse for the 24" snow-tek! The craftsman sounds like an amazing deal!


link for everyone:


http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-277cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TF599

[window shopper]

Holy crap x2 on the buyer's remorse for the 24" snow-tek! The craftsman sounds like an amazing deal!

well if i didnt have home depot gift cards i wouldve gone for the one at sears instead, much better deal...

[abstracted]

How many here have only a two-stage? Do you only use it on days when there is a huge amount of snow or do you still use it on those 2-3" days?

[saint2e]

Checked the specs out. It has a craftsman engine. Should I be concerned?

Seeing as how I just sold a 22 year old Craftsman snowblower (admittedly with a Tecumseh engine) in working condition, I'd say you're pretty safe.

[cyril2]

if its true than it has to be the best deal of all time ... 651 dollar discount seems unlikely though, let us know if you get it at 649.00, i'll be glad to return my sno tek and drive an hour to Oshawa to pick this up
This deal is definitely on right now. If you think you might want to purchase one I would do some research first. There is a review on line by an aircraft mechanic of the same craftsman engine in a 28" craftsman snowblower and he gives a very detailed description of all the problems he has had with it. Just a word to the wise. Obviously different people may have different luck.

[cyril2]

Seeing as how I just sold a 22 year old Craftsman snowblower (admittedly with a Tecumseh engine) in working condition, I'd say you're pretty safe.
Not necessarily. As the mechanic points out in his review he had purchased craftsman in the past and they had always made a quality product so he assumed this snowblower would be no exception but he now believes he was mistaken. Different engine means different snowblower entirely.

[NotMoneyGuy]

interesting article regarding the snotek

http://www.jsonline.com/business/69023327.html


very good article, thanks for posting...

I like the last couple of lines in the article...maybe keep the "robustness" factor in mind when shopping for a good deal.


"But Ariens Co. isn't worried about its value-minded product line stealing sales from the Ariens brand.

A customer that wants a robust Ariens product isn't the same customer that will buy a Sno-Tek, Dan Ariens said."

[saint2e]

Not necessarily. As the mechanic points out in his review he had purchased craftsman in the past and they had always made a quality product so he assumed this snowblower would be no exception but he now believes he was mistaken. Different engine means different snowblower entirely.

That's fair. Could you post this article you keep mentioning?

[hyginc]

That's fair. Could you post this article you keep mentioning?

http://community.craftsman.com/Craftsman-277cc-28-quot-path-Two-stage-Snowblower-review-fb6a

I think this is the article

[sonyminidiscman]

http://community.craftsman.com/Craftsman-277cc-28-quot-path-Two-stage-Snowblower-review-fb6a

I think this is the article

I ordered this one... never had a snowblower in my life before.... I hope I don't run into those problems.

Sometimes the best manufacturers can put out a lemon or 2... as long as there isn't 100 reviews saying that its bad...... i think i am safe...

[direct-x]

Guys,

The Craftsman 26 277CC at 50% off is dead. Confirmed in-store and online. Dead everywhere.

[nxtort]

Guys,

The Craftsman 26 277CC at 50% off is dead. Confirmed in-store and online. Dead everywhere.

You don't happen to have a screen capture of that deal to you Direct?

[valve]

your most likely talking about last years 24inch model with the 136cc engine which is on sale this year as a clearance iteam at HD for 499 on sale.

Nope, 208cc. The 24" from last year was 208cc.

[dummjock]

You don't happen to have a screen capture of that deal to you Direct?

I do --> https://docs.google.com/open?id=0B0jFs7kEpvHFZGM3OGVmNjItMzIzNy00MDZkLWE0M TctMjAzYzM4NTkyYTVm

Thread here: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/hot-630-tax-50-off-less-20-coupon-craftsman-26-277cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-1101954/

[sonyminidiscman]

I hope my order goes thru...............

[saint2e]

And Buyer's Remorse is now subsiding...

[jayshahu]

I was able to get one at a local store. I am the slip for me to go pick it up. I better hurry before they decide not to honour the price.

[jonmar]

I ordered one online and got a confirmation. Hopefully they don't cancel it.

[brigusnf]

I seem to have gotten one online from sears as well, I guess it's wait and see time. I don't see that model on the sears website, maybe it older stock? Not that that matters to me.

[axelmazda]

guys I went in today to see the craftsman that's on sale at 649... the chute is made of plastic which turned me away from buying it, their was one left, I could have bought it but its not as great as you all might think its not worth more than 700 dollars anyways, the engine is also Chinese its not a B/S engine, its Chinese.

[clammydog]

guys I went in today to see the craftsman that's on sale at 649... the chute is made of plastic which turned me away from buying it, their was one left, I could have bought it but its not as great as you all might think its not worth more than 700 dollars anyways, the engine is also Chinese its not a B/S engine, its Chinese.

The reason plastic chute's are popular is because they don't freeze up like the metal ones. My Cub Cadet has a limited lifetime warranty on the plastic chute and I'm very happy with it.

My understanding is that B & S engines are made in China like most other engines.

[tutchio]

guys I went in today to see the craftsman that's on sale at 649... the chute is made of plastic which turned me away from buying it, their was one left, I could have bought it but its not as great as you all might think its not worth more than 700 dollars anyways, the engine is also Chinese its not a B/S engine, its Chinese.

people go for cheap now a days instead of quality

every places who repair snowblowers told me to stay away from craftman because when they break down it cost a fortune to fix

[axelmazda]

The reason plastic chute's are popular is because they don't freeze up like the metal ones. My Cub Cadet has a limited lifetime warranty on the plastic chute and I'm very happy with it.

My understanding is that B & S engines are made in China like most other engines.


their is a reason why the best snowblowers out their have a metal chute, they do not freeze up during use, if you leave it outside with nothing covering it yes they will for sure freeze, the problem with plastic chute is also that their is no lock on the chute which means the angles will keep changing when snow is being thrown, maybe not at first use but after a while the plastic will warp and shrink due to the weather conditions ( basic chemistry), you really have to go see the unit to see what I mean.

[montyhall]

Looks like the Snow Joe MAX is available for order at Costco.ca (http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?whse=BCCA&topnav=&prodid=10353218&ec=BCCA-EC780-CatHome&pos=5&lang=en-CA) with a $25 discount. Can't comment on the quality of it, but with Costco's return policy you can buy and try! ;) If anyone has tried it, can someone comment on it's performance?

[jayshahu]

their is a reason why the best snowblowers out their have a metal chute, they do not freeze up during use, if you leave it outside with nothing covering it yes they will for sure freeze, the problem with plastic chute is also that their is no lock on the chute which means the angles will keep changing when snow is being thrown, maybe not at first use but after a while the plastic will warp and shrink due to the weather conditions ( basic chemistry), you really have to go see the unit to see what I mean.

Even iphones, ipads, ipods are made in China. There is nothing wrong with things made in China as long as the quality control is there. Made in China doesn't neccessarily mean bad quality.

[dummjock]

Even iphones, ipads, ipods are made in China. There is nothing wrong with things made in China as long as the quality control is there. Made in China doesn't neccessarily mean bad quality.

+1

Don't buy domestic. Support comparative advantage.

[axelmazda]

Even iphones, ipads, ipods are made in China. There is nothing wrong with things made in China as long as the quality control is there. Made in China doesn't neccessarily mean bad quality.

I bought a sno-tek so Iam not complaining, the B/S engines do last longer but I look at everything including the price which is 400 dollars less as well so I went with chinase, and your right most goods from china are overall good quality these days.

[clammydog]

their is a reason why the best snowblowers out their have a metal chute, they do not freeze up during use, if you leave it outside with nothing covering it yes they will for sure freeze, the problem with plastic chute is also that their is no lock on the chute which means the angles will keep changing when snow is being thrown, maybe not at first use but after a while the plastic will warp and shrink due to the weather conditions ( basic chemistry), you really have to go see the unit to see what I mean.

Both Cub Cadet and Toro's have plastic chutes and they are considered to be the better snowblowers. My Cub's chute does lock and to release it I need to use the trigger on the joystick. When I first started looking at snowblowers I only wanted a metal chute. After looking at many makes and models my bigger concern was build quality and features. I agree that in future there might be a issue with shrinkage and wrapping but I can easily replace the part or buy another snowblower.

[djemzine]

I am happy with my Sno Tek 24" purchase from HD. I don't care about the heated handles or a light lol. As long as it gets the job done then that's all that matters :)

[sbarro]

Guys,

The Craftsman 26 277CC at 50% off is dead. Confirmed in-store and online. Dead everywhere.


Hmm
Just picked one up from the Southland (Calgary) Sears store (4pm), I asked if they could match their $649 online price.
CSR checked his computer and informed that the unit is on sale for that price starting today. As an added bonus, there is a scratch and save promo, good for another $20 off in my case.

[JFK]

i just did a price match at home depot for the ariens deluxe 30" and a make a good deal.
Just print the ottawa good center web page with the ariens 30" deluxe and bring it to home depot and you done a big deal here.
Home depot sell the 30 deluxe for 1599.00 and ottawa good center sell for 1299.95. You have 300$ in price and with the 10% you get another 130$ of discount for a total of 430$
I get the ariens deluxe 30" with taxe at home depot for 1332.87. Im still below their retail price. I get a 30 " for the price of 28" and i have the hand warmer.
Remember print the home depot politic price because the manager try to only price match because the dealer was in ottawa and i buy in quebec, but with the home depot politic i got in hand they said retail in canada. So i got the the price match with the 10%.
Enjoy the deal

Thank you, Sir.

Thanks to you, I got the same deal from HD in Vaudreuil, Qc.

They went through the motions then agreed my PM request was kosher and they honoured it.

Moreover for $35 all included (rental, taxes & gas) I rented one of their trucks and ramps to take the machine home.
Even better, I applied on-site for a HD credit card to be allowed paying for it in 12 months no interest and got a $25 gift I could use immediately.

Like koston78 said, bring a copy of the web page from ottawagoodtime.com. Tell them it is a real brick&mortar shop and that they can check the address from the web site, verify it's not even a special price, and it's indeed the same model (921013).

I was extremely pleased with the way I was treated by all the HD staff in Vaudreuil. Thank you ppl.

N.B. Check ottawagoodtime prices for the other Ariens models: They're all cheaper than HD's.

[kirkwy]

Hmm
Just picked one up from the Southland (Calgary) Sears store (4pm), I asked if they could match their $649 online price.
CSR checked his computer and informed that the unit is on sale for that price starting today. As an added bonus, there is a scratch and save promo, good for another $20 off in my case.

I am in Calgary too. Can you post/pm your receipt so that I can get one at the same price at Southland location too? Deadly want one at that price.

[sbarro]

I am in Calgary too. Can you post/pm your receipt so that I can get one at the same price at Southland location too? Deadly want one at that price.


Here ya go!

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb383/kroubian/Scan1.jpg

[kirkwy]

Here ya go!

http://i1203.photobucket.com/albums/bb383/kroubian/Scan1.jpg

Appreciate it! Will give a try tmr!

[smuPoker]

Thank you, Sir.

Thanks to you, I got the same deal from HD in Vaudreuil, Qc.

They went through the motions then agreed my PM request was kosher and they honoured it.

Moreover for $35 all included (rental, taxes & gas) I rented one of their trucks and ramps to take the machine home.
Even better, I applied on-site for a HD credit card to be allowed paying for it in 12 months no interest and got a $25 gift I could use immediately.

Like koston78 said, bring a copy of the web page from ottawagoodtime.com. Tell them it is a real brick&mortar shop and that they can check the address from the web site, verify it's not even a special price, and it's indeed the same model (921013).

I was extremely pleased with the way I was treated by all the HD staff in Vaudreuil. Thank you ppl.

N.B. Check ottawagoodtime prices for the other Ariens models: They're all cheaper than HD's.

I'm pretty surprised that you guys got this deal. The HD policy clearly states that they will match "at any retail location of a local competitor in Canada". But nicely done. Being out here in NB, I don't even think I'd bother trying to match the ottawagoodtime price.

[Zenthar]

Might be late on the news, but I just got an email from Costco saying they have a 200$ rebate on the 27" 250cc Poulan Pro 2 Stage blower (http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10354633)(now 1000$ shipped). It seems it has a B&S engine, any comments on this specific brand/model? Sorry I cannot do much search on my own as I'm currently using an eReader on a very spotty and slow wireless connection in Costa Rica :P.

If you want to suggest better deals, it should be known that I live in the Montreal region.

[axelmazda]

Might be late on the news, but I just got an email from Costco saying they have a 200$ rebate on the 27" 250cc Poulan Pro 2 Stage blower (http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10354633)(now 1000$ shipped). It seems it has a B&S engine, any comments on this specific brand/model? Sorry I cannot do much search on my own as I'm currently using an eReader on a very spotty and slow wireless connection in Costa Rica :P.

If you want to suggest better deals, it should be known that I live in the Montreal region.

Ive been told not to purchase Poulan snow blowers as they have really crappy unreliable frames, the only thing worth of value on the Poulan is the engine, nothing else.

[JFK]

...
If you want to suggest better deals, it should be known that I live in the Montreal region.


You'd better get an Ariens than a Poulan.
See the other posts on how to get a PM from HD using http://www.ottawagoodtime.com/showroom/Ariens where they offer:
Ariens Deluxe 28" @ $999.95 ($1119.00 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345)
Ariens Compact 24" (Reg. $988) @ $839.95 ($999 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24148-2-stage-sno-throltsupgtreglt-supgt-snow-thrower/918483)

[NotMoneyGuy]

You'd better get an Ariens than a Poulan.
See the other posts on how to get a PM from HD using http://www.ottawagoodtime.com/showroom/Ariens where they offer:
Ariens Deluxe 28" @ $999.95 ($1119.00 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345)


+1!

[Scott S.]

Been eyeing up a couple snowblowers at the local Home Depot. The Ariens ST28LE Deluxe and the Toro Power Max 726.

Seen a fair bit written about the Ariens, any opinions on this particular Toro model?

[jbond]

You'd better get an Ariens than a Poulan.
See the other posts on how to get a PM from HD using http://www.ottawagoodtime.com/showroom/Ariens where they offer:
Ariens Deluxe 28" @ $999.95 ($1119.00 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345)
Ariens Compact 24" (Reg. $988) @ $839.95 ($999 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24148-2-stage-sno-throltsupgtreglt-supgt-snow-thrower/918483)
Can someone who're able to price match @ HomeDepot kind enough to post a scan receipt as some HD sales may not have access to on-line pricing. So scan receipt from other HD will help alot in PM. Thank you in advance.

[shingor6]

Been eyeing up a couple snowblowers at the local Home Depot. The Ariens ST28LE Deluxe and the Toro Power Max 726.

Seen a fair bit written about the Ariens, any opinions on this particular Toro model?

The ST28LE Deluxe is a proven model, the Toro MAX 726 might be as good, but why take the canche when there's such a good deal on the Ariens.

You can't go wrong with orange.

[ndog2]

Been eyeing up a couple snowblowers at the local Home Depot. The Ariens ST28LE Deluxe and the Toro Power Max 726.

Seen a fair bit written about the Ariens, any opinions on this particular Toro model?

Both of these are absolute top of the line models that always score top marks in any kind of testing. It really comes down to your preference and what kind of deal you can get. The toro has a better deflector and chute control with the joystick but bottom line is you can't really go wrong with either.

[Darryl]

ndog2, do you happen to know where/if I could get a cable for my snowblower we talked about previously?

This model has a a lever on it that is used to rotate the chute and one of the cables is broken. It looks like one of those bicycle brake cables with the nipple end and inside a black sleeve. The problem is, it looks like it has a special clip on each end of the sleeve that connects to the snowblower, holding it in place.

I called a couple of local places, but they said they were only able to get the entire rotating unit, not just the cable. And it was over $130!

Any suggestions? I might have to MacGuyver it eventually, but I'd rather the proper cable if I could.

[ndog2]

ndog2, do you happen to know where/if I could get a cable for my snowblower we talked about previously?

This model has a a lever on it that is used to rotate the chute and one of the cables is broken. It looks like one of those bicycle brake cables with the nipple end and inside a black sleeve. The problem is, it looks like it has a special clip on each end of the sleeve that connects to the snowblower, holding it in place.

I called a couple of local places, but they said they were only able to get the entire rotating unit, not just the cable. And it was over $130!

Any suggestions? I might have to MacGuyver it eventually, but I'd rather the proper cable if I could.

I took a quick look at a poulan parts diagram (I can't be 100% sure it's the same as yours but the chances are high) but my guess is it's part number 178659. It looks like the cables only come as part of a assembly with both the lever and the rotor mechanism. Plugging that into google they're on ebay for 99.99 + 9.99 shipping and that seems to be the lowest price(but I'd do a little more digging to make sure it's the right part before spending $110.) Since they only come in an assembly from AYP short of making your own I think the only other way is if you can get the cable off a scrapped snow blower.

[Darryl]

I took a quick look at a poulan parts diagram (I can't be 100% sure it's the same as yours but the chances are high) but my guess is it's part number 178659. It looks like the cables only come as part of a assembly with both the lever and the rotor mechanism. Plugging that into google they're on ebay for 99.99 + 9.99 shipping and that seems to be the lowest price(but I'd do a little more digging to make sure it's the right part before spending $110.) Since they only come in an assembly from AYP short of making your own I think the only other way is if you can get the cable off a scrapped snow blower.

Thanks. Sounds like the same results I was able to come up with earlier. I'm not going to replace the entire unit.. I'm sure I can figure something out.

Appreciate the help though.

[ndog2]

Thanks. Sounds like the same results I was able to come up with earlier. I'm not going to replace the entire unit.. I'm sure I can figure something out.

Appreciate the help though.

No problem. More and more on all types of OPE parts are only coming in assemblies; it's a big money maker since assemblies sell for more and it cuts costs as they only have to stock and sell 1 part instead of 4 plus the assemblies are usually built overseas for labour savings too.

[window shopper]

15% OFF any item @ RONA again this weekend. As before pricematch @ homedepot.


http://www.promo.rona.ca/_images/promo_rona_ca_en_cours_sem46_g_en.jpg

[krazy_leb]

Any way of taking advantage of this deal today? Wont be around for the weekend unfortunatly :(

[jbond]

15% OFF any item @ RONA again this weekend. As before pricematch @ homedepot.


http://www.promo.rona.ca/_images/promo_rona_ca_en_cours_sem46_g_en.jpg

Is this coupon from email or flyers to homes?

[window shopper]

Is this coupon from email or flyers to homes?

I just got this off the rona website.

[goofball]

Is this coupon from email or flyers to homes?

It's in the flyer as well, front page.

[CHIA]

Hmmm, wonder is Lowes will accept this at face value?

[ndog2]

Hmmm, wonder is Lowes will accept this at face value?

I can't say for sure specifically on snowblowers but I've used the Rona 15% off in past on tools, the cashier accepted it without question.

[CHIA]

I can't say for sure specifically on snowblowers but I've used the Rona 15% off in past on tools, the cashier accepted it without question.

Well, guess all I can do is ask.

[axelmazda]

Well, guess all I can do is ask.

hd has better deals on snow blowers, go to hd instead

[CHIA]

hd has better deals on snow blowers, go to hd instead

I want a somewhat inexpensive single stage, and saw this one at Sears, which is going on sale for $550:

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

They have one at Lowes, that looks almost identical, for $499, but has no remote chute operation,
or the little handle to adjust chute angle......I think other than that, the look identical.

Anyone have any experience with this machine by chance? B&S 205cc engine, electric start, 22", seems ok.

[polypep]

I want a somewhat inexpensive single stage, and saw this one at Sears, which is going on sale for $550:

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

They have one at Lowes, that looks almost identical, for $499, but has no remote chute operation,
or the little handle to adjust chute angle......I think other than that, the look identical.

Anyone have any experience with this machine by chance? B&S 205cc engine, electric start, 22", seems ok.

Sears site has it for $700 right now.

For $29 more why not get a Toro.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621-qzr-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/959625

[nToxEk8d]

Sears site has it for $699 right now.

For $30 more why not get a Toro.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621-qzr-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/959625

I was just at Sears in Scarborough Town Center looking at snow blowers and the associate told me they are having a store-wide sale tomorrow and no tax. Might be worth a trip.

EDIT

Just got a email from TD Rewards:

The Toro Power Clear 621 is the deal of the day for Nov 14th @ $499 from $749!

[CHIA]

Sears site has it for $700 right now.

For $29 more why not get a Toro.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621-qzr-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/959625

As I said, it's going on sale tomorrow, for $550, which it was a couple weeks ago as well.

This, coupled with possibly "save the tax", which I'm not sure if applicable in BC, seems decent.

[CHIA]

EDIT

Just got a email from TD Rewards:

The Toro Power Clear 621 is the deal of the day for Nov 14th @ $499 from $749!

Where from, Home Depot? Would that be applicable out West? Can you PM me the details?

Thanks

[CHIA]

I was just at Sears in Scarborough Town Center looking at snow blowers and the associate told me they are having a store-wide sale tomorrow and no tax. Might be worth a trip.

EDIT

Just got a email from TD Rewards:

The Toro Power Clear 621 is the deal of the day for Nov 14th @ $499 from $749!

I assume you have to hold a TD credit card to get this deal?

[ndog2]

I want a somewhat inexpensive single stage, and saw this one at Sears, which is going on sale for $550:

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

They have one at Lowes, that looks almost identical, for $499, but has no remote chute operation,
or the little handle to adjust chute angle......I think other than that, the look identical.

Anyone have any experience with this machine by chance? B&S 205cc engine, electric start, 22", seems ok.

If you're talking about the Canadiana model at Lowe's that's the same snowblower as the crasftsman without the automatic chute accessory. B&S makes both; they also make this model for Canadian Tire (sold as B&S there.) Last year several people bought the B&S version and all of the reports are positive. It's probably a sold choice if Toro is out of your budget.

TD Rewards www.tdrewards.com it's a loyalty shopping site for TD credit card holders, you need a TD card to use it.

[htc***]

I want a somewhat inexpensive single stage, and saw this one at Sears, which is going on sale for $550:

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

They have one at Lowes, that looks almost identical, for $499, but has no remote chute operation,
or the little handle to adjust chute angle......I think other than that, the look identical.

Anyone have any experience with this machine by chance? B&S 205cc engine, electric start, 22", seems ok.

Costco has Poulan PRO® 208 cc Gas-powered 21-in., Single-stage Snow Thrower and Electric Start for $500 include shipping, if you have a membership.

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10360961&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA|114|3241|22254&N=4010129&Mo=4&pos=1&No=2&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22254&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&ec=BCCA-EC22125-Cat3241&topnav=

http://content.costco.ca/Images/Content/Product/288111c.jpg

[CHIA]

If you're talking about the Canadiana model at Lowe's that's the same snowblower as the crasftsman without the automatic chute accessory. B&S makes both; they also make this model for Canadian Tire (sold as B&S there.) Last year several people bought the B&S version and all of the reports are positive. It's probably a sold choice if Toro is out of your budget.

TD Rewards www.tdrewards.com it's a loyalty shopping site for TD credit card holders, you need a TD card to use it.

Thanks.....dang, $499 for that Toro would be a great deal, wonder if I can sign up on a TD card that fast to be eligible.

[CHIA]

Costco has Poulan PRO® 208 cc Gas-powered 21-in., Single-stage Snow Thrower and Electric Start for $500 include shipping, if you have a membership.

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10360961&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA|114|3241|22254&N=4010129&Mo=4&pos=1&No=2&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22254&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&ec=BCCA-EC22125-Cat3241&topnav=

http://content.costco.ca/Images/Content/Product/288111c.jpg

Ya, just not a fan of that model......like the B&S engine, and like the other model which has
steel sides, where you run into the snow, not plastic like the Poulan....I see this is a wear area.

The remote chute with the better angle mechanism is a bonus too.

[nToxEk8d]

I assume you have to hold a TD credit card to get this deal?

Yes. It does require a TD Visa. They have a Deal of the Day item until close to xmas.

https://www.tdrewards.com/shoppingmall/

[nToxEk8d]

Thanks.....dang, $499 for that Toro would be a great deal, wonder if I can sign up on a TD card that fast to be eligible.

Just an FYI - The TD Rewards Deal of the Day works on a lottery system. Members click on the "I want one" button to enter the lottery. At 4pm, or there abouts, the lucky winners are emailed a link that enables them to add it to their carts.

[CHIA]

Just an FYI - The TD Rewards Deal of the Day works on a lottery system. Members click on the "I want one" button to enter the lottery. At 4pm, or there abouts, the lucky winners are emailed a link that enables them to add it to their carts.

Ahhhh, ok, thanks, had no idea......that idea has lost momentum then, no interest in lottery type deals, sure things only.

[AMDFerrari]

Just an FYI - The TD Rewards Deal of the Day works on a lottery system. Members click on the "I want one" button to enter the lottery. At 4pm, or there abouts, the lucky winners are emailed a link that enables them to add it to their carts.

That is not correct. Only the "Red Hot" deals are lottery based. The rest are limited quantity. The Toro doesn't look like it'll be a Red Hot deal.

[nToxEk8d]

That is not correct. Only the "Red Hot" deals are lottery based. The rest are limited quantity. The Toro doesn't look like it'll be a Red Hot deal.

I stand corrected. And I had the wrong date - it should be November 15 and it is a limited quantity offer.

[razrsharp]

I want a somewhat inexpensive single stage, and saw this one at Sears, which is going on sale for $550:

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

They have one at Lowes, that looks almost identical, for $499, but has no remote chute operation,
or the little handle to adjust chute angle......I think other than that, the look identical.

Anyone have any experience with this machine by chance? B&S 205cc engine, electric start, 22", seems ok.

A bunch of us bought this B&S 22" model last year from Canadian Tire:
http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp;jsessionid=MlGWZKwX7vLlRBTY1NyQ wgJtsL0Bhlc6dl8nNl21W51g1qJMXCTy!-1986692439?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443318894&bmUID=1290110614909

I think the best price they had was $549 with a $50 or $75 gift card, if i recall correctly. I assume the Sears model gets similar pricing but do check the warranty on it for comparison - the CT B&S model had a 5 year warranty when i bought it.

I've been pretty happy with mine - it's thrown all the various types of snow we received last year - from wet to dry and chugged through it all without hesitation. Personally I find the remote chute control REALLY handy, and i think it makes a huge difference in time savings. For me, i only throw the snow on one side of my driveway and am constantly using the control to swap from a left/right throw as i move up and down the driveway - and as such i can clear the driveway in 10 minutes. If i had to constantly bend over to move the shute control, i could see how that would be more time consuming.

[CHIA]

A bunch of us bought this B&S 22" model last year from Canadian Tire:
http://www.canadiantire.ca/browse/product_detail.jsp;jsessionid=MlGWZKwX7vLlRBTY1NyQ wgJtsL0Bhlc6dl8nNl21W51g1qJMXCTy!-1986692439?PRODUCT%3C%3Eprd_id=845524443318894&bmUID=1290110614909

I think the best price they had was $549 with a $50 or $75 gift card, if i recall correctly. I assume the Sears model gets similar pricing but do check the warranty on it for comparison - the CT B&S model had a 5 year warranty when i bought it.

I've been pretty happy with mine - it's thrown all the various types of snow we received last year - from wet to dry and chugged through it all without hesitation. Personally I find the remote chute control REALLY handy, and i think it makes a huge difference in time savings. For me, i only throw the snow on one side of my driveway and am constantly using the control to swap from a left/right throw as i move up and down the driveway - and as such i can clear the driveway in 10 minutes. If i had to constantly bend over to move the shute control, i could see how that would be more time consuming.

Thanks, appreciate the first hand feedback, and yes, it appears to be identical, so that really helps.

[CHIA]

I was just at Sears in Scarborough Town Center looking at snow blowers and the associate told me they are having a store-wide sale tomorrow and no tax. Might be worth a trip.

EDIT

Just got a email from TD Rewards:

The Toro Power Clear 621 is the deal of the day for Nov 14th @ $499 from $749!

This model sells for $629 at HD, so not as hot as a first assumed, thinking it was the remote chute version.

It's this one: http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621-e-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/959609

[axelmazda]

This model sells for $629 at HD, so not as hot as a first assumed, thinking it was the remote chute version.

It's this one: http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621-e-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/959609

overpriced to say the least ...........

[coolbreeze]

You'd better get an Ariens than a Poulan.
See the other posts on how to get a PM from HD using http://www.ottawagoodtime.com/showroom/Ariens where they offer:
Ariens Deluxe 28" @ $999.95 ($1119.00 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345)
Ariens Compact 24" (Reg. $988) @ $839.95 ($999 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24148-2-stage-sno-throltsupgtreglt-supgt-snow-thrower/918483)


Ok, went to HD today and was told the one at ottawagoodtime.com is last year's old model. They won't PM it and will just knock $100 off the current price.

[nora578]

Ok, went to HD today and was told the one at ottawagoodtime.com is last year's old model. They won't PM it and will just knock $100 off the current price.

Did you confirm it was last years model or are you taking HD's word for it. Call Ottawa Good Time and see what they say.
If you don't get a PM at one HD try another. Or try to use the Rona 15% off thing this Saturday, that would make it $150 off

[NotMoneyGuy]

Did you confirm it was last years model or are you taking HD's word for it. Call Ottawa Good Time and see what they say. If you don't get a PM at one HD try another. Or try to use the Rona 15% off thing this Saturday, that would make it $150 off

+1.

Call like I did, see http://forums.redflagdeals.com/snowblower-thrower-deal-watch-thread-2011-12-a-1068827/26/#post13641211

[nora578]

With the Sears pay the Tax day. Just enter offer number 941612468 at checkout to deduct 15.5% from your purchase

This one seems like a good deal;

CRAFTSMAN®/MD 27'' 249cc Dual Stage Snow Blower with EZ Steer $999.99 otd currently $500 off the reg. $1499.99
11.5 Torque Power 249cc Briggs & Stratton Engine.
12" auger handles the heaviest snow.
6 forward speeds and 2 reverse speeds.
Electric starter on engine for easy dependable starting. Starter cord included.
Crank controlled, 180 degree chute rotation. Throw snow where you want it.
16" x 6.5" Arctic Trac tires provide excellent traction. Rubber cleats eliminate the need for tire chains and do not mark paved surfaces.
E-Z Steer power steering
Dual trigger control allows for easy maneuverability.
Reinforced drive belts for long life.
2 year limited warranty


http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100

http://catalog.sears.ca/wcsstore/MasterCatalog/images/catalog/Product_271/std_lang_all/25/_p/671_52125_P.jpg

[window shopper]

SEARS WILL PAY ALL THE TAX TODAY ONLY..................


http://www.sears.ca/custom-content/we-pay-the-tax?extid=110511_ca_Display_EN_WEPAYTHETAX_Text%20 _REDFLAGDEALS_SPONSOREDDEAL_WEEKNOV11

*Sears will charge and remit any applicable taxes and deduct 15.5% from the item price. Applicable tax(es) will be shown at checkout.

Excludes items with prices ending in .97 and .88. Offer valid November 11, 2011 only.

(my bad double post i just read the post above this one....)

[cypher]

With the tax free shopping today, I'm looking at the following models:

CRAFTSMAN®/MD 27'' 249cc Dual Stage Snow Blower with EZ Steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100)

CRAFTSMAN®/MD 24'' 277cc Dual Stage Snow Thrower with EZ Steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-277cc-dual-stage-snow-thrower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TE599)

Both are selling for $999, with the main differences being:

1) 27" vs 24"
2) 27" model is using a 249cc Briggs & Stratton Engine
3) 24" model is using a 277cc Craftsman OHV winterized engine
2) The 24" has heated handles

I don't believe I need the 27" and like the idea of ther slighty smaller footprint and heated handles on the 24" model. However, I'm not familiar with the quality difference between these two engines. Any throughts?

[mikeo2]

Hey i am new to buying snowblowers and i wanted your guys opinion on this one at walmart

548$ and i can use a 20% off coupon from being an employee =D

Brute Snowblower 8TP/22" 205 cc Briggs& stratton OHV snow series Engine. Electric Start. Plastic Discharge chute

Thanks!

[dummjock]

With the tax free shopping today, I'm looking at the following models:

CRAFTSMAN®/MD 27'' 249cc Dual Stage Snow Blower with EZ Steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100)

CRAFTSMAN®/MD 24'' 277cc Dual Stage Snow Thrower with EZ Steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-277cc-dual-stage-snow-thrower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TE599)

Both are selling for $999, with the main differences being:

1) 27" vs 24"
2) 27" model is using a 249cc Briggs & Stratton Engine
3) 24" model is using a 277cc Craftsman OHV winterized engine
2) The 24" has heated handles

I don't believe I need the 27" and like the idea of ther slighty smaller footprint and heated handles on the 24" model. However, I'm not familiar with the quality difference between these two engines. Any throughts?

I would go for the 27" with the B&S engine. Personally, the B&S is a better engine, and I also like the bigger tires and the steel chute.

[axelmazda]

With the tax free shopping today, I'm looking at the following models:

CRAFTSMAN®/MD 27'' 249cc Dual Stage Snow Blower with EZ Steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100)

CRAFTSMAN®/MD 24'' 277cc Dual Stage Snow Thrower with EZ Steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-277cc-dual-stage-snow-thrower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TE599)

Both are selling for $999, with the main differences being:

1) 27" vs 24"
2) 27" model is using a 249cc Briggs & Stratton Engine
3) 24" model is using a 277cc Craftsman OHV winterized engine
2) The 24" has heated handles

I don't believe I need the 27" and like the idea of ther slighty smaller footprint and heated handles on the 24" model. However, I'm not familiar with the quality difference between these two engines. Any throughts?


Brigs engines are known to be the best for snow blowers and are made in the U.S, the other engine you listed is Chinese made. I would go with the 27 so you do less back and forth work and more importantly the engine.

Ive heard the heated handles do not do much unless you going to plowing for an extended period of time.

[CHIA]

I want a somewhat inexpensive single stage, and saw this one at Sears, which is going on sale for $550:

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932

They have one at Lowes, that looks almost identical, for $499, but has no remote chute operation,
or the little handle to adjust chute angle......I think other than that, the look identical.

Anyone have any experience with this machine by chance? B&S 205cc engine, electric start, 22", seems ok.

With coupon, $534 inc tax and delivery, done

[ndog2]

Hey i am new to buying snowblowers and i wanted your guys opinion on this one at walmart

548$ and i can use a 20% off coupon from being an employee =D

Brute Snowblower 8TP/22" 205 cc Briggs& stratton OHV snow series Engine. Electric Start. Plastic Discharge chute

Thanks!

Brute is built by B&S and generally good quality but sometimes they lack a lot of features. We need more details on it's features or a model number to decide if it's a good value, they don't appear to have it on the website. $439 is certainly going to be a very low price for that size of snow blower.

[clifftomas]

Bought the 24 Snow Tek last week and still haven't picked it up.
Anyone know if it will fit into the back of a mazda tribute?

My sense is that the chute's too big, but please let me know if anyone's tried.

[window shopper]

Bought the 24 Snow Tek last week and still haven't picked it up.
Anyone know if it will fit into the back of a mazda tribute?

My sense is that the chute's too big, but please let me know if anyone's tried.

its gonna be close with the seats pulled down, the chute is not attached in the box you need to assemble that.

i think unassembled dimensions are:


Item Depth
42 In.

Item Height
31 In.

Item Weight
192 Lbs.

Item Width
27 In.

[axelmazda]

Bought the 24 Snow Tek last week and still haven't picked it up.
Anyone know if it will fit into the back of a mazda tribute?

My sense is that the chute's too big, but please let me know if anyone's tried.

it will fit with the seats folded down, the box is waist high and the chute is not assembled in the box so its not as high as u think

[davidslegend]

With coupon, $534 inc tax and delivery, done


Told my wife to hold off due to shipping charges... anyone know the size of box... probably won't fit in my toyota echo but, maybe a Elentra sedan?

Thanks,

David:cry:

[coolbreeze]

+1.

Call like I did, see http://forums.redflagdeals.com/snowblower-thrower-deal-watch-thread-2011-12-a-1068827/26/#post13641211

THanks. went back to HD and talked to a different rep. Got PM and extra 10% discount.

[djemzine]

So today is supposed to be the scheduled delivery date for our Sno Tek 24" purchased at HD on Oct 26th. Shall I do the following:

(1) Wait till they call when they have in stock?

OR

(2) Call them and find out what is the status and if they're on back order for another 2 to 3 weeks, ask them to provide a floor model for a lesser price? We did pay for shipping as well so they can have that floor model shipped out to us.

Suggestions?

Thanks

Update: Called up HD they said they have it in stock and will deliver to us on the 19th of November i.e next week. I said that your CSR said they'll call us when they come in stock, etc. They apologized... I shook my head...

[cavuu]

With the tax free shopping today, I'm looking at the following models:

CRAFTSMAN®/MD 27'' 249cc Dual Stage Snow Blower with EZ Steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100)

CRAFTSMAN®/MD 24'' 277cc Dual Stage Snow Thrower with EZ Steer (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-277cc-dual-stage-snow-thrower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TE599)

Both are selling for $999, with the main differences being:

1) 27" vs 24"
2) 27" model is using a 249cc Briggs & Stratton Engine
3) 24" model is using a 277cc Craftsman OHV winterized engine
2) The 24" has heated handles

I don't believe I need the 27" and like the idea of ther slighty smaller footprint and heated handles on the 24" model. However, I'm not familiar with the quality difference between these two engines. Any throughts?

I just ordered this one
CRAFTSMAN®/MD 24'' 208cc Dual Stage Snow Blower with EZ Steer $899
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-208cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AM53TE599

$100 less than the 24" you were looking at. The only difference is a smaller engine. I think Sears has made a mistake in their no tax calculation of reducing by 15.5% then adding 13% HST as the total after tax is $854 not $899.

Comparing to the $649 Sno Tek 24" For a $120 extra the Sears gives you larger tires, power steering, headlight, heated grips, and joy stick control of the chute

[elessar0802]

With the Sears pay the Tax day. Just enter offer number 941612468 at checkout to deduct 15.5% from your purchase

This one seems like a good deal;

CRAFTSMAN®/MD 27'' 249cc Dual Stage Snow Blower with EZ Steer $999.99 otd currently $500 off the reg. $1499.99
11.5 Torque Power 249cc Briggs & Stratton Engine.
12" auger handles the heaviest snow.
6 forward speeds and 2 reverse speeds.
Electric starter on engine for easy dependable starting. Starter cord included.
Crank controlled, 180 degree chute rotation. Throw snow where you want it.
16" x 6.5" Arctic Trac tires provide excellent traction. Rubber cleats eliminate the need for tire chains and do not mark paved surfaces.
E-Z Steer power steering
Dual trigger control allows for easy maneuverability.
Reinforced drive belts for long life.
2 year limited warranty


http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100

http://catalog.sears.ca/wcsstore/MasterCatalog/images/catalog/Product_271/std_lang_all/25/_p/671_52125_P.jpg

I almost bought this snowblower today as well but then did more searching and found:
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-249cc-27-dual-stage-snowblower/671-000202721-52811

I think the first one might be an older model with "$500 off" and the one I posted in a newer model with a $100 saving. I am just guessing but they look like identical machines.

Tom

[axelmazda]

So today is supposed to be the scheduled delivery date for our Sno Tek 24" purchased at HD on Oct 26th. Shall I do the following:

(1) Wait till they call when they have in stock?

OR

(2) Call them and find out what is the status and if they're on back order for another 2 to 3 weeks, ask them to provide a floor model for a lesser price? We did pay for shipping as well so they can have that floor model shipped out to us.

Suggestions?

Thanks

Update: Called up HD they said they have it in stock and will deliver to us on the 19th of November i.e next week. I said that your CSR said they'll call us when they come in stock, etc. They apologized... I shook my head...


negotiate with them, make a fuss, even if they give u 25-50 bucks off its stil better than nothing.

[MrDisco]

Looks like the Snow Joe MAX is available for order at Costco.ca (http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?whse=BCCA&topnav=&prodid=10353218&ec=BCCA-EC780-CatHome&pos=5&lang=en-CA) with a $25 discount. Can't comment on the quality of it, but with Costco's return policy you can buy and try! ;) If anyone has tried it, can someone comment on it's performance?

i was just going to post this...good thing i searched. i ordered this model a few weeks back at the reg price. i'll have to return it and re-order.

[CHIA]

Told my wife to hold off due to shipping charges... anyone know the size of box... probably won't fit in my toyota echo but, maybe a Elentra sedan?

Thanks,

David:cry:

I got it shipped to a catalog outlet, which happens to be 2 blocks from my house, no charge.

[zoomzoom]

I've got a 2 car garage driveway, but the space between my driveway and my neighbor's property is not that much - probably 4 feet for neighbor #1, and maybe 10 or 12 feet for neighbor #2. From a few videos that I have watched of the gas snowblowers in action, it appears that you really need a lot of space between your property and your neighbor's property - otherwise you will be throwing snow onto your neighbor's property. Are the chutes on these machines adjustable so that you can adjust how far to throw the snow? Ideally, I believe the best scenario for my case would be if the snow if throwen up and over 5 to 8 feet so that the snow is still on side of the property. Maybe an electric would be better suited for my needs? How's the SnowJoe?

[666Hunter666]

Bought the single stage http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932?extid=affiliate_comj
for $489.25 including tax and shipping to store for pick up. Used Sears card also to get Sears points. So just shy of 80 points more of getting $10 gift card.
Looked at the Toro Power Clear 621 QZE for $799 at Homedepot. It was just too much difference in cash for almost a similiar item. Now to look for the 2 stage Ariens 28" Deluxe.

[htc***]

I've got a 2 car garage driveway, but the space between my driveway and my neighbor's property is not that much - probably 4 feet for neighbor #1, and maybe 10 or 12 feet for neighbor #2. From a few videos that I have watched of the gas snowblowers in action, it appears that you really need a lot of space between your property and your neighbor's property - otherwise you will be throwing snow onto your neighbor's property. Are the chutes on these machines adjustable so that you can adjust how far to throw the snow? Ideally, I believe the best scenario for my case would be if the snow if throwen up and over 5 to 8 feet so that the snow is still on side of the property. Maybe an electric would be better suited for my needs? How's the SnowJoe?


I think you can adjust the chutes down and it won't throw far away or you throw the snow onto the street.

[CHIA]

Bought the single stage http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-22-205cc-single-stage-snow-blower/671-000088716-1695932?extid=affiliate_comj
for $489.25 including tax and shipping to store for pick up. Used Sears card also to get Sears points. So just shy of 80 points more of getting $10 gift card.
Looked at the Toro Power Clear 621 QZE for $799 at Homedepot. It was just too much difference in cash for almost a similiar item. Now to look for the 2 stage Ariens 28" Deluxe.

How did you purchase it for that price? I just did it today, as mentioned above,
and my total, after tax, and to a local outlet for pickup, was $534 and change.

It's on sale for $549, so what magical method did you use to get it tax fee and
$60 further discounted???

[666Hunter666]

How did you purchase it for that price? I just did it today, as mentioned above,
and my total, after tax, and to a local outlet for pickup, was $534 and change.

It's on sale for $549, so what magical method did you use to get it tax fee and
$60 further discounted???


Cost for snowblower is $462.00, shipping is $3.95 and Gst is $23.30. When I went to Sears to look at the blower today I heard on their intercom that they were doing save double the GST. My shipping charge is $3.95 shipped to my Sears store for pick up. I am guessing you are having it delivered to your house for $65.00. I was looking to see if I could apply other coupon codes to the already 15.5% discount but nothing else worked. My mom had a 1500 points coupon but I could not stack it with the discount. My pick up is for November 19. My initial that was that I could stack this 15.5% coupon with save the GST, but this 15.5% coupon was save the GST discount.

[CHIA]

Cost for snowblower is $462.00, shipping is $3.95 and Gst is $23.30. When I went to Sears to look at the blower today I heard on their intercom that they were doing save double the GST. My shipping charge is $3.95 shipped to my Sears store for pick up. I am guessing you are having it delivered to your house for $65.00. I was looking to see if I could apply other coupon codes to the already 15.5% discount but nothing else worked. My mom had a 1500 points coupon but I could not stack it with the discount. My pick up is for November 19. My initial that was that I could stack this 15.5% coupon with save the GST, but this 15.5% coupon was save the GST discount.

The link you provided was the model I bought (#52060).....price is $549, not $462....

[666Hunter666]

The link you provided was the model I bought (#52060).....price is $549, not $462....


The $462 price is after coupon applied, but before taxes. All I did was input that coupon code.
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8962/sears3.png
So after taxes and shipping fee it will cost $489.25 out the door. Also I live in Alberta gst is 5%.

[jonmar]

Just off the phone with Sears and confirmed I will be getting the one they had on sale for a couple hours earlier this week:
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-277cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TF599
I ended up getting it for $549 plus tax, free delivery due to an issue I had at a local store trying to buy a snow blower. Customer Service guy at sears was awesome.

I found it interesting that the sale was to be for three days at 50% off and yet it lasted just over an hour before the deal was dead. When the page was relisted, it was shown 'out of stock'. As soon as that sale ends, stock reappears and it's now $999 instead of $649. So the words 'save $300' are a bit misleading if you followed the price of the machine.

[CHIA]

The $462 price is after coupon applied, but before taxes. All I did was input that coupon code.
http://img18.imageshack.us/img18/8962/sears3.png
So after taxes and shipping fee it will cost $489.25 out the door. Also I live in Alberta gst is 5%.

Ahhhh, Alberta, that's the ticket, did not know that originally....10% difference overall, with tax savings.

[Zenthar]

You'd better get an Ariens than a Poulan.
See the other posts on how to get a PM from HD using http://www.ottawagoodtime.com/showroom/Ariens where they offer:
Ariens Deluxe 28" @ $999.95 ($1119.00 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345)
Ariens Compact 24" (Reg. $988) @ $839.95 ($999 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24148-2-stage-sno-throltsupgtreglt-supgt-snow-thrower/918483)
Do you know if a Quebec HD would PM this store since it's in Ontario? Does PM work online too (I will probably have it deliver if I cannot find someone to pick it up for me ... my guess is it won't fit in my Yaris :P)?

[JFK]

Do you know if a Quebec HD would PM this store since it's in Ontario? Does PM work online too (I will probably have it deliver if I cannot find someone to pick it up for me ... my guess is it won't fit in my Yaris :P)?

I can't do better than repeating my previous posts (Even if the 2nd one was already a reply to YOU. Please RTFF!):

Thank you, Sir.

Thanks to you, I got the same deal from HD in Vaudreuil, Qc.

They went through the motions then agreed my PM request was kosher and they honoured it.

Moreover for $35 all included (rental, taxes & gas) I rented one of their trucks and ramps to take the machine home.
Even better, I applied on-site for a HD credit card to be allowed paying for it in 12 months no interest and got a $25 gift I could use immediately.

Like koston78 said, bring a copy of the web page from ottawagoodtime.com. Tell them it is a real brick&mortar shop and that they can check the address from the web site, verify it's not even a special price, and it's indeed the same model (921013).

I was extremely pleased with the way I was treated by all the HD staff in Vaudreuil. Thank you ppl.

N.B. Check ottawagoodtime prices for the other Ariens models: They're all cheaper than HD's.

You'd better get an Ariens than a Poulan.
See the other posts on how to get a PM from HD using http://www.ottawagoodtime.com/showroom/Ariens where they offer:
Ariens Deluxe 28" @ $999.95 ($1119.00 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345)
Ariens Compact 24" (Reg. $988) @ $839.95 ($999 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24148-2-stage-sno-throltsupgtreglt-supgt-snow-thrower/918483)
Plus:
- koston78 got a PM from Lachenaie (East of Montreal).
- PM's are in-store only.
- Stores can deliver (Mine asked for $65), but by renting a truck AND ramps you don't need any help to load/unload the snowblower.
- I think the ST28LE Deluxe's finally came in at HD.

[nora578]

You'd better get an Ariens than a Poulan.
See the other posts on how to get a PM from HD using http://www.ottawagoodtime.com/showroom/Ariens where they offer:
Ariens Deluxe 28" @ $999.95 ($1119.00 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345)
Ariens Compact 24" (Reg. $988) @ $839.95 ($999 @ http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24148-2-stage-sno-throltsupgtreglt-supgt-snow-thrower/918483)

Thanks JFK,

Successfully PM'd the Ariens 24" Compact @ HD in Richmond Hill with no problems and put it on my HD card so no interest on it until 2013.

[axelmazda]

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-277cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TF599
I had an order of this for family, went today to pick it up and they told me its delayed till monday........... I was pissed so they gave me 70 bucks off my total and free delivery, they said they dont know when it will be deliverd, but it will be sometime next week and they will call me in advance to let me know.

[kaibur]

Just off the phone with Sears and confirmed I will be getting the one they had on sale for a couple hours earlier this week:
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-277cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TF599
I ended up getting it for $549 plus tax, free delivery due to an issue I had at a local store trying to buy a snow blower. Customer Service guy at sears was awesome.

I found it interesting that the sale was to be for three days at 50% off and yet it lasted just over an hour before the deal was dead. When the page was relisted, it was shown 'out of stock'. As soon as that sale ends, stock reappears and it's now $999 instead of $649. So the words 'save $300' are a bit misleading if you followed the price of the machine.

How did you get the one that was listed for $649 for $549?

[axelmazda]

How did you get the one that was listed for $649 for $549?


she mentioned she had a previous issue with them so they gave her a discount to make her happy, big box stores do it all the time, at the end of the day they want to keep a customer not get rid of them... they gave me 70 off for the problem they caused me as well.

[VictorT]

which store location gave you an extra $70 off? They have delayed me as well till next week

[axelmazda]

which store location gave you an extra $70 off? They have delayed me as well till next week

It was through the sears in Ajax

[deals4every1]

It was on sale for 999 from 1099. PM'ed with Rona 15% to bring it down to 849 and put on HD card for free interest for a year at Barhaven location
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/cub-cadet-24-inch-snow-thrower/911817

Arien 24" can be PM for similar price with good time center but not as good IMHO
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24148-2-stage-sno-throltsupgtreglt-supgt-snow-thrower/918483

[marunio]

Checked out Sno-tech 24 at HD and I like it, but:
1. Would prefer bigger engine for EOD heavy stuff
2. Lack of power steer (no clutches on handles) so it will be a bit of pain to turn

Seeking comments especially on turning without ability to release wheel (never had snowblower before).

M

[htc***]

FYI before decide to buy single or dual stage



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI-AFIA56yo

[axelmazda]

Checked out Sno-tech 24 at HD and I like it, but:
1. Would prefer bigger engine for EOD heavy stuff
2. Lack of power steer (no clutches on handles) so it will be a bit of pain to turn

Seeking comments especially on turning without ability to release wheel (never had snowblower before).

M


I have the 24inch snow-tek, still haven't opened it out of the box but to address your concerns from what ive found out:

1. if you go with the 208cc 24inch , under dense snow conditions it should be in gear 1 or 2, this applies to bigger 277cc+ engines as well, with fluffy snow you can go 6th gear because the snow is light. From what ive read most people dont use the reverse gears at all so its kind of gimmicky in my view.

2. the 24inch comes out of the box with power sent to one wheel which means you rotate the machine slightly and the one wheel will follow in a turn, or you can connect the pin to both wheels and they will both provide traction but no turning possible.

The manual to the engine is available at the lct website and the snow-blowermanual is on the ariens/snotek website.

Ive tried to attach it here as well in PDF format but it seems the file is too big.

[htc***]

Nice to have these snowblowers. Drink coffee and do snowblower the same time. You won't get cold in early morning.


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tPg1ZMiC9pA&feature=related


http://www.youtube.com/watch?NR=1&v=F29XU0aYA_E

[marunio]

Thanks Axel.
These are good points.
My foremost concern is heavy, packed and wet stuff 1-2 feet high, 4-8 feet long at the end of the double car wide driveway (courtesy of city plows:)
For heavy stuff one wheel drive might not be sufficient and having both wheels locked in will take a toll on your back maneuvering.
I am hoping to hear from someone that has used this particular model in similar to my conditions.
M





I have the 24inch snow-tek, still haven't opened it out of the box but to address your concerns from what ive found out:

1. if you go with the 208cc 24inch , under dense snow conditions it should be in gear 1 or 2, this applies to bigger 277cc+ engines as well, with fluffy snow you can go 6th gear because the snow is light. From what ive read most people dont use the reverse gears at all so its kind of gimmicky in my view.

2. the 24inch comes out of the box with power sent to one wheel which means you rotate the machine slightly and the one wheel will follow in a turn, or you can connect the pin to both wheels and they will both provide traction but no turning possible.

The manual to the engine is available at the lct website and the snow-blowermanual is on the ariens/snotek website.

Ive tried to attach it here as well in PDF format but it seems the file is too big.

[direct-x]

Put together the sno-tek 24 today. I noticed though that the chute seems to be a little loose. I attached the two bolts as per the manual, but the chute is still a little wobbly. Anyone have the same issue, or did I miss something?

[axelmazda]

Put together the sno-tek 24 today. I noticed though that the chute seems to be a little loose. I attached the two bolts as per the manual, but the chute is still a little wobbly. Anyone have the same issue, or did I miss something?

I thought u returned it lol? what happend!

[axelmazda]

Thanks Axel.
These are good points.
My foremost concern is heavy, packed and wet stuff 1-2 feet high, 4-8 feet long at the end of the double car wide driveway (courtesy of city plows:)
For heavy stuff one wheel drive might not be sufficient and having both wheels locked in will take a toll on your back maneuvering.
I am hoping to hear from someone that has used this particular model in similar to my conditions.
M

look up last years thread ( 2010-2011), Iam sure theirs user reviews.

[direct-x]

I thought u returned it lol? what happend!

Sears screwed me over with the 50% off blower, luckily I was able to get the delivery company to come back with the HD delivery that same day.

[kaibur]

she mentioned she had a previous issue with them so they gave her a discount to make her happy, big box stores do it all the time, at the end of the day they want to keep a customer not get rid of them... they gave me 70 off for the problem they caused me as well.

Okay, so I'm not really getting all this.

Did you buy the Sears 50% off deal or did a family member buy it? Did you pick it up or did she pick it up? Was there a shipping charge or not (If it was being picked up at a Sears location, there shouldn't have a shipping charge in the first place) And then why did they take another $70.00 off a machine that was a 50% off price error to begin with?

A copy of the receipt would help the rest of us who got this deal. We could all negotiate for another $70.00 reduction based on your sale.

Don't mean to suspect your story, but picking up this machine for $549 seems a little hard to believe.

Cheers.

[jonmar]

Okay, so I'm not really getting all this.

Did you buy the Sears 50% off deal or did a family member buy it? Did you pick it up or did she pick it up? Was there a shipping charge or not (If it was being picked up at a Sears location, there shouldn't have a shipping charge in the first place) And then why did they take another $70.00 off a machine that was a 50% off price error to begin with?

A copy of the receipt would help the rest of us who got this deal. We could all negotiate for another $70.00 reduction based on your sale.

Don't mean to suspect your story, but picking up this machine for $549 seems a little hard to believe.

Cheers.

When I started my search for a snowblower, I went to my local sears outlet store. They had a couple of last year's snow blowers at 'clear out' prices. They were the display models, and were pre built. They had been displayed outside and looked a little weathered. Minor rust etc. It was believable that they had not been started, but they didn't look brand spankin' new and shiny either. There were no manuals or anything available. The price suggested a phenomenal deal, and the salesman suggested the discount was 'significant'. Anyhow, I went to a few more stores and then did some research on line. Sears.ca had a brand spankin' new one of the exact model for $20 more. I called to voice my concerns that a weathered, rusted unit with no documents was being presented as a monumental discount when in fact it was only $20. I also explained how furious I would have been had I acted on the salesperson's assertions, rented a truck and brought it home, only to find that I had saved a whopping $20 over a brand new one. The person I spoke with was really great and offered me $100 off and free delivery on the new one. I asked to think it over for a day or two and when I called back it was sold out. The service rep advised me to keep looking. On Monday, I noticed the 50% off sale, bought one before it was pulled and contacted the service rep. He said he would be happy to refund $165 plus HST to my credit card once the unit is delivered next weekend.

So, that is how I got it for $549 plus tax, free delivery.

[kaibur]

When I started my search for a snowblower, I went to my local sears outlet store. They had a couple of last year's snow blowers at 'clear out' prices. They were the display models, and were pre built. They had been displayed outside and looked a little weathered. Minor rust etc. It was believable that they had not been started, but they didn't look brand spankin' new and shiny either. There were no manuals or anything available. The price suggested a phenomenal deal, and the salesman suggested the discount was 'significant'. Anyhow, I went to a few more stores and then did some research on line. Sears.ca had a brand spankin' new one of the exact model for $20 more. I called to voice my concerns that a weathered, rusted unit with no documents was being presented as a monumental discount when in fact it was only $20. I also explained how furious I would have been had I acted on the salesperson's assertions, rented a truck and brought it home, only to find that I had saved a whopping $20 over a brand new one. The person I spoke with was really great and offered me $100 off and free delivery on the new one. I asked to think it over for a day or two and when I called back it was sold out. The service rep advised me to keep looking. On Monday, I noticed the 50% off sale, bought one before it was pulled and contacted the service rep. He said he would be happy to refund $165 plus HST to my credit card once the unit is delivered next weekend.

So, that is how I got it for $549 plus tax, free delivery.

Thanks for replying jonmar, (although I was wondering more specifically about axelmazda's story.)

Looks like your circumstances were unique to you and having a salesman offer you this machine for $549 is pretty sweet.
I know there's a ridiculous mark-up on these in the first place, but nobody's gonna argue that this price isn't hot.

[axelmazda]

Okay, so I'm not really getting all this.

Did you buy the Sears 50% off deal or did a family member buy it? Did you pick it up or did she pick it up? Was there a shipping charge or not (If it was being picked up at a Sears location, there shouldn't have a shipping charge in the first place) And then why did they take another $70.00 off a machine that was a 50% off price error to begin with?

A copy of the receipt would help the rest of us who got this deal. We could all negotiate for another $70.00 reduction based on your sale.

Don't mean to suspect your story, but picking up this machine for $549 seems a little hard to believe.

Cheers.


bought it for family, was supposed to be deliverd to ajax sears, ended up being deliverd to toronto instead, i picked it up, no shipping charge, they took 70 bucks off cause they scrwerd up my order 3 times,

p.s I am not sure why your calling it an error, its not an error its a discontinued clearance iteam, I would not be suprised if it went for 599 at the end of winter this year.

its not worth anything more than 600 anyways, their is an excessive use of plastic in the weak points of the unit , for those who bought it they know what I mean. Ive seen the top of the line craftsman thats going for around 1500 which in terms of quality is no better than the one I bought, only difference is the size and stronger 370+cc Chinese engine.

just because sears puts a regular price of 1300 and than puts it down to 649 doesent mean its an amazing deal lol, Sears does this with all their products, for example a treadmill a month ago was 1799+tax and this week it was 699+tax, same thing with all their power equipment, even kitchen equipment like blenders. its a sneaky marketing tactic which of course works.



EDIT: good review on this unit
http://mowingsnow.com/category/canadian-snow-blower-reviews/26-in-craftsmanmd-277cc-ez-steer

[Darelict1]

FYI before decide to buy single or dual stage



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI-AFIA56yo

Its like bringing a knife to a gun fight or in landscaping terms, buying a ride-on lawn mower to do an average 40x100 suburban size property. Nice snow, I meant sell job! I have a Toro single-stage (4 stroke with quickshoot) to do a 4 car driveway. Winters in the GTA even with the EOD, 10 out of 10 times, I can do my driveway faster than my neighbor with his two-stage. Plus I can keep the blower stored in the front of my garage, and still park two family vehicles.

[kaibur]

bought it for family, was supposed to be deliverd to ajax sears, ended up being deliverd to toronto instead, i picked it up, no shipping charge, they took 70 bucks off cause they scrwerd up my order 3 times,

p.s I am not sure why your calling it an error, its not an error its a discontinued clearance iteam, I would not be suprised if it went for 599 at the end of winter this year.

its not worth anything more than 600 anyways, their is an excessive use of plastic in the weak points of the unit , for those who bought it they know what I mean. Ive seen the top of the line craftsman thats going for around 1500 which in terms of quality is no better than the one I bought, only difference is the size and stronger 370+cc Chinese engine.

just because sears puts a regular price of 1300 and than puts it down to 649 doesent mean its an amazing deal lol, Sears does this with all their products, for example a treadmill a month ago was 1799+tax and this week it was 699+tax, same thing with all their power equipment, even kitchen equipment like blenders. its a sneaky marketing tactic which of course works.

Thanks for your reply Axelmazda, but I don't really need to be educated about the retail tactic of marking "up" so you can mark "down".

And regardless of whether or not you think this machine is only worth $600, it is virtually impossible to find any versions of this same blower for less than about $1000 right now.
(You discovered this when you did a search of the mtd site) The Canadian Tire Yardworks version is presently $999.00

Also, this item was never referred to as a discontinued clearance item and it still isn't. As you must know from reading this thread and others, more than one salesperson referred to it as a mistake and refused to honour the price. Face it, this blower at $629.00 was a great buy.... and those of us who were lucky enough to get it, saved ourselves almost $400.00

If, as you have suggested many times, it's a sub-standard blower, and the Home Depot Sno-Tek deal was better, why did you (or a "family member") purchase this one?

I'm not all that interested in the "pissing" contest over best engine, best brand. For the average consumer who would normally have to pay a lot more for a blower of this size and strength at this time of year, this was a sweet deal. See review: http://movingsnow.com/2011-craftsman-cub-cadet-troy-bilt-yardman-mtd-pro-yard-machines-craftsman®md-snow-blowers-whats-the-difference/6001/

Once again, thanks for your reply and enjoy your Craftsman!

[axelmazda]

Thanks for your reply Axelmazda, but I don't really need to be educated about the retail tactic of marking "up" so you can mark "down".

And regardless of whether or not you think this machine is only worth $600, it is virtually impossible to find any versions of this same blower for less than about $1000 right now.
(You discovered this when you did a search of the mtd site) The Canadian Tire Yardworks version is presently $999.00

Also, this item was never referred to as a discontinued clearance item and it still isn't. As you must know from reading this thread and others, more than one salesperson referred to it as a mistake and refused to honour the price. Face it, this blower at $629.00 was a great buy.... and those of us who were lucky enough to get it, saved ourselves almost $400.00

If, as you have suggested many times, it's a sub-standard blower, and the Home Depot Sno-Tek deal was better, why did you (or a "family member") purchase this one?

I'm not all that interested in the "pissing" contest over best engine, best brand. For the average consumer who would normally have to pay a lot more for a blower of this size and strength at this time of year, this was a sweet deal. See review: http://movingsnow.com/2011-craftsman-cub-cadet-troy-bilt-yardman-mtd-pro-yard-machines-craftsman®md-snow-blowers-whats-the-difference/6001/

Once again, thanks for your reply and enjoy your Craftsman!


I agree that RIGHT NOW their is nothing that is close to this unit at 649, that is true, but given the quality what I am saying is that it is only worth 649 and not more. when your comparing it to the sno-tek you have to look at what you want in features in my case I got the snotek because in my view it is more robust, hardly any plastic components, better drive gear, metal skid shoes, metal chute, better tires etc etc, the craftsman on the other hand is 2 inches wider, has a light, handwarmer, and electric drive, so it really comes down to what you want in a machine and the use you will be getting out of it.

Now the reason the craftsman was purchased for a family member is because for my sno-tek I used a 15% rona coupon (649-15%+HST), when this craftsman deal came around the coupon deal was already done so I suggested to family that lives in Ajax to look up the craftsman that was on sale, they decided they wanted it so I orderd it for them ( they dont speak english)

I know both as a consumer and business major the tactics big box stores use, so personally I dont fall for their so called AMAZING deals but 99.99% of people do, thats how they make a profit of 400% even on a sale iteam, I stand by my statment that this unit is not worth more than 600-650 do to the excessive use of cheap plastic, at the end of the day I paid for what the unit was worth no less and no more. The other MTD products will go on sale at the similar prices within the next 1-2 months as well, since they are all identical, just different sub-brands.

I hope you enjoy your unit and it lasts you 30 years

[Trexim]

I agree that RIGHT NOW their is nothing that is close to this unit at 649, that is true, but given the quality what I am saying is that it is only worth 649 and not more.

I searched through the last few years, and the best deal I found for a similar snow blower is a review from a buyer from CT and it's $850. There are problem with plastic chutes and there are problem with metal chutes. You have your bias toward the snow-tek because you bought it yourself which is understandable. But there is no need to put down the other product without any basis.

[007bond]

I ordered one following the rfd motto buy now think later but don't realy need it. If someone wants they can meet me at sears sherway gardens they can have it for cost plus a couple Tylenol.

[dummjock]

I searched through the last few years, and the best deal I found for a similar snow blower is a review from a buyer from CT and it's $850. There are problem with plastic chutes and there are problem with metal chutes. You have your bias toward the snow-tek because you bought it yourself which is understandable. But there is no need to put down the other product without any basis.

I've decided to just ignore axelmazda's comments. I am a mere commoner without a business degree, and I have never purchased a product in my life.

I am also unaware of any advantages or disadvantages with regards to the use of specific materials in manufacturing products, thus his comparison of steel vs. plastic means nothing to me.

I will blindly trust that a sale of 50% off for this product is a good deal, for a decent machine (actually closer to 60% off for those who used the coupon and got sears to apply the no tax sale to their purchase).

[spena]

any current deals for snowblowers? looking to buy one for my family for the holidays

[shingor6]

I don't know if I'm the only one, but I just can't wait to use my snowblower.

Each day I hope we get 12"+ of snow

For the 2 stage vs single stage, it might be different where you live, but here in Quebec, I have never seen anyone use a single stage for there driveway, it's always 2 stage blower.

The only person I knew who had a single stage used it for a month in the winter then buy a 2 stage.

If you have heavy snowfall in your region, it's much cheaper to buy a good 2 stage than buying a single stage selling it and then buying a 2 stage.

Here it's not uncommon to have EOD height of over 30", we get that 5-6 times per winter at least.

[axelmazda]

I searched through the last few years, and the best deal I found for a similar snow blower is a review from a buyer from CT and it's $850. There are problem with plastic chutes and there are problem with metal chutes. You have your bias toward the snow-tek because you bought it yourself which is understandable. But there is no need to put down the other product without any basis.


XS cargo had one today 30'' for 699.00, I actually bought the Sno-tek for my self and the craftsman for family, their both assesmbled sitting in my garage, no bias actually, its all facts, Ive already listed the pros and cons of both units, as I mentioned its YOUR personal opinion what you look for in this machine but the build quality is not questionable.


I've decided to just ignore axelmazda's comments. I am a mere commoner without a business degree, and I have never purchased a product in my life.

I am also unaware of any advantages or disadvantages with regards to the use of specific materials in manufacturing products, thus his comparison of steel vs. plastic means nothing to me.

I will blindly trust that a sale of 50% off for this product is a good deal, for a decent machine (actually closer to 60% off for those who used the coupon and got sears to apply the no tax sale to their purchase).

you are a marketing teams wet dream lol, suit your self, I provided an opinion and facts, its your choice to except it or not, no one is making you go either ways, I could care less if you paid 1500 dollars for a unit that costs 600, its ur money not mine

[kaibur]

XS cargo had one today 30'' for 699.00, I actually bought the Sno-tek for my self and the craftsman for family, their both assesmbled sitting in my garage, no bias actually, its all facts, Ive already listed the pros and cons of both units, as I mentioned its YOUR personal opinion what you look for in this machine but the build quality is not questionable.
you are a marketing teams wet dream lol, suit your self, I provided an opinion and facts, its your choice to except it or not, no one is making you go either ways, I could care less if you paid 1500 dollars for a unit that costs 600, its ur money not mine

XSCargo is hardly a fair comparison of retail pricing - "We find the clearance, overstock, liquidation, refurbished products that mean the best buys for you. We bring you brand name products purchased from distressed situations at incredibly low prices. We are not a traditional retailer." - try getting a service warranty from them.

And as to your statement about facts... You state facts, but follow them with personal opinion.


in my view it is more robust, hardly any plastic components, better drive gear, metal skid shoes, metal chute, better tires etc etc

but others disagree:
http://movingsnow.com/2011-craftsman-cub-cadet-troy-bilt-yardman-mtd-pro-yard-machines-craftsman®md-snow-blowers-whats-the-difference/6001/

"The poly skids don’t scratch your cement driveway or sidewalks. In other words you won’t have brown (rust streaks) on your driveway in the spring. The large ones will last longer than the smaller skids but they are only $30 when you need to replace them."

Plastic/Metal blah blah blah. I still operate a Yardworks blower that is 11 years old. The chute is plastic and works fine - the metal skids leave behind rust. It's time to chillax axelmazda. Your family may have ended up with the better deal.They can also buy a very impressive MYHOME service warranty from Sears for $200.00 that covers everything on this machine parts and labor, and includes "come to your house" service calls for three years. If you don't use it, Sears will give you back the money as a sears gift card to be used on future purchases.

The people who picked up this machine for $629.00 scored!

As to your remarks re: "a marketing team's wet dream", sometimes people who know very little become empowered when they learn something that everyone else already knows. You're not telling us anything about retail pricing that we don't already know. We're all aware of fake regular retail prices, but we're also aware of average retail prices that exist between competitors, and we have all shopped around. Go out and find this machine at this price at some place other than xscargo and then we'll talk. (And please don't bother to tell us that it will eventually be on sale, after the high season. We know that, but we obviously wanted to buy it now, didn't we? Even after the winter season, I'm sure you'll be hard pressed to find one for this price.)

[dummjock]

XSCargo is hardly a fair comparison of retail pricing - "We find the clearance, overstock, liquidation, refurbished products that mean the best buys for you. We bring you brand name products purchased from distressed situations at incredibly low prices. We are not a traditional retailer." - try getting a service warranty from them.

....

Go out and find this machine at this price at some place other than xscargo and then we'll talk. (And please don't bother to tell us that it will eventually be on sale, after the high season. We know that, but we obviously wanted to buy it now, didn't we? Even after the winter season, I'm sure you'll be hard pressed to find one for this price.)

+1


And as to your statement about facts... You state facts, but follow them with personal opinion.

+10


Plastic/Metal blah blah blah. I still operate a Yardworks blower that is 11 years old. The chute is plastic and works fine - the metal skids leave behind rust. It's time to chillax axelmazda. Your family may have ended up with the better deal.

+1

I also note that plastic components weigh less than metal components, thus making the machine more maneuverable. And just to confirm, I am not suggesting plastic is better, there are just pros and cons to each.


The people who picked up this machine for $629.00 scored!

+1

And the people who picked it up for even less scored a better deal. I actually have it on order for ~$605 after tax because I got Sears to apply the no tax sale from Friday.


As to your remarks re: "a marketing team's wet dream", sometimes people who know very little become empowered when they learn something that everyone else already knows. You're not telling us anything about retail pricing that we don't already know. We're all aware of fake regular retail prices, but we're also aware of average retail prices that exist between competitors, and we have all shopped around.

+100

I also wanted to comment that I have actually purchased products before, and I was not born yesterday. Apparently I did not put enough sarcasm into my previous post.

[mariner126]

I don't know if I'm the only one, but I just can't wait to use my snowblower.

Each day I hope we get 12"+ of snow

For the 2 stage vs single stage, it might be different where you live, but here in Quebec, I have never seen anyone use a single stage for there driveway, it's always 2 stage blower.

The only person I knew who had a single stage used it for a month in the winter then buy a 2 stage.

If you have heavy snowfall in your region, it's much cheaper to buy a good 2 stage than buying a single stage selling it and then buying a 2 stage.

Here it's not uncommon to have EOD height of over 30", we get that 5-6 times per winter at least.



I purchased a new 2 stage about 5 weeks ago and personally I hope it rots in my garage from lack of use due to no snow...::razz.....I'd even sell my new snow tires at half price....LOL....just hope everyone is happy with their new machines because living in Canada there is a good chance that snow will be flying from the chutes.

[axelmazda]

XSCargo is hardly a fair comparison of retail pricing - "We find the clearance, overstock, liquidation, refurbished products that mean the best buys for you. We bring you brand name products purchased from distressed situations at incredibly low prices. We are not a traditional retailer." - try getting a service warranty from them.

And as to your statement about facts... You state facts, but follow them with personal opinion.



but others disagree:
http://movingsnow.com/2011-craftsman-cub-cadet-troy-bilt-yardman-mtd-pro-yard-machines-craftsman®md-snow-blowers-whats-the-difference/6001/

"The poly skids don’t scratch your cement driveway or sidewalks. In other words you won’t have brown (rust streaks) on your driveway in the spring. The large ones will last longer than the smaller skids but they are only $30 when you need to replace them."

Plastic/Metal blah blah blah. I still operate a Yardworks blower that is 11 years old. The chute is plastic and works fine - the metal skids leave behind rust. It's time to chillax axelmazda. Your family may have ended up with the better deal.They can also buy a very impressive MYHOME service warranty from Sears for $200.00 that covers everything on this machine parts and labor, and includes "come to your house" service calls for three years. If you don't use it, Sears will give you back the money as a sears gift card to be used on future purchases.

The people who picked up this machine for $629.00 scored!

As to your remarks re: "a marketing team's wet dream", sometimes people who know very little become empowered when they learn something that everyone else already knows. You're not telling us anything about retail pricing that we don't already know. We're all aware of fake regular retail prices, but we're also aware of average retail prices that exist between competitors, and we have all shopped around. Go out and find this machine at this price at some place other than xscargo and then we'll talk. (And please don't bother to tell us that it will eventually be on sale, after the high season. We know that, but we obviously wanted to buy it now, didn't we? Even after the winter season, I'm sure you'll be hard pressed to find one for this price.)


Never mentioned anything about skidpads being better or worse did I?

you dont like XS Cargo which is fine, BUT they do have warranty on their products and its actually not a repair warranty, its a replace warranty which means if it breaks down in 1,2,3 years you take it into the store and they credit you for it if they dont have it or give u a new one. It seems like you just want to be right and not except the truth which is fine, I could care less, I stated the facts and stand by my statements. It wouldent matter if I listed 10 stores with similar pricing, you would still go on saying blah blah blah its a great deal i save a penny.

No matter what you say I am still sticking with what I said cause its facts, and it seems most people that know about snowblowers would agree to the pros and cons which I have listed. Opinions are Opinions and facts are facts.

Again I could care less if you paid 1500 or 50 bucks, at the end of the day its your money , Iam just here to state what I know and your just here to nag it seems, either ways suit your self

[kaibur]

Never mentioned anything about skidpads being better or worse did I?

Yes... you did.

And now you're singing the praises of XSCARGO.

So much for your expert knowledge of retail...

It would seem that for you, something is a fact only when you want it to be.

Cheers

[axelmazda]

XSCargo is hardly a fair comparison of retail pricing - "We find the clearance, overstock, liquidation, refurbished products that mean the best buys for you. We bring you brand name products purchased from distressed situations at incredibly low prices. We are not a traditional retailer." - try getting a service warranty from them.


I just proved you wrong that's all, if you dont know what your talking about its best not to confuse other people, seems like you had no clue about the warranty did u?

[kaibur]

I just proved you wrong that's all, if you dont know what your talking about its best not to confuse other people, seems like you had no clue about the warranty did u?

Selling you a refurbished piece of crap, and then telling you they'll give you a store credit or exchange within 30 days of finding out it's a worthless piece of crap, is not my idea of a service warranty.

And I'm certain that most people who have been reading your contentious nonsense for the last week or two on this and other snowblower threads, are not at all confused about that "fact"

Enough, already.

[axelmazda]

Selling you a refurbished piece of crap, and then telling you they'll give you a store credit or exchange within 30 days of finding out it's a worthless piece of crap, is not my idea of a service warranty.

And I'm certain that most people who have been reading your contentious nonsense for the last week or two on this and other snowblower threads, are not at all confused about that "fact"

Enough, already.


New not refurbished, get ur facts right, dont talk unless your sure what your saying is a fact, the iteam I am talking about is NOT refurbished or USED, its clearance iteam, NEW out of the box

[Carc]

Its like bringing a knife to a gun fight or in landscaping terms, buying a ride-on lawn mower to do an average 40x100 suburban size property. Nice snow, I meant sell job! I have a Toro single-stage (4 stroke with quickshoot) to do a 4 car driveway. Winters in the GTA even with the EOD, 10 out of 10 times, I can do my driveway faster than my neighbor with his two-stage. Plus I can keep the blower stored in the front of my garage, and still park two family vehicles.

+1

I thought the single stage would be useless until I read on this forum about them. I found a toro for cheap and was amazed at what they can do. They clean down to the asphalt which a two stage simply won't do. So much faster getting the job done as well. I've used both and for the GTA a single stage is all you need.

[axelmazda]

https://c.sears.com/assets/vid/SnowThrowers2.m4v?sid=I0084400010000100600&aff=Y

[djemzine]

Sorry to go off topic, but lately this thread has been from useful/helpful to people making criticism against other's posts, etc.

[Darryl]

Back on topic..

I was at Home Depot last night and they had the 24" two-stage Snotek snowblowers on sale for $499 (reg $649 I think).

There were 8 or 9 of them at the Halifax store.

If I hadn't already bought one, I probably would have picked it up.

[axelmazda]

Back on topic..

I was at Home Depot last night and they had the 24" two-stage Snotek snowblowers on sale for $499 (reg $649 I think).

There were 8 or 9 of them at the Halifax store.

If I hadn't already bought one, I probably would have picked it up.


is it the same one u bought, i think you can do a price adjustment up to 30 days if it is ( not 100% sure)

[Darryl]

is it the same one u bought, i think you can do a price adjustment up to 30 days if it is ( not 100% sure)

No. I bought a used 10hp, 30" Murray.

[jayshahu]

I just proved you wrong that's all, if you dont know what your talking about its best not to confuse other people, seems like you had no clue about the warranty did u?

Axelmazda you are very much entitled to your opinion and others to theirs. Some of your comments on this thread and others has a hint of lecturing. Some statments of yours like you need a full sized SUV to carry the sears product home is completely misleading. I took the sears unit home in the 2008 RAV4 with enough space to take more stuff home. The 2008 RAV4 is hardly a full sized SUV , it I believe is classied as a compact SUV.

I am not wanting to start a pissing contest here. So peace..

[djpositivek]

Back on topic..

I was at Home Depot last night and they had the 24" two-stage Snotek snowblowers on sale for $499 (reg $649 I think).

There were 8 or 9 of them at the Halifax store.

If I hadn't already bought one, I probably would have picked it up.

Ugggh... Just drove over to Home Depot to find these are the 136cc units (SKU 920404) discussed in this thread previously. They are regular $549 according to the tag and there is another tag on them that says "Compare at $649". :facepalm:

[meh_33333]

do you guys think there will be deals to be had during boxing day/week on snow blowers?

[Darryl]

Ugggh... Just drove over to Home Depot to find these are the 136cc units (SKU 920404) discussed in this thread previously. They are regular $549 according to the tag and there is another tag on them that says "Compare at $649". :facepalm:

Oh man, I am very sorry for that. I was there last night for something totally unrelated and saw them as I was walking in. I didn't spend much time with them as I needed to stay focused on my reason for being there, but I saw a 24" SnoTek, with prices $499 and $649 on them.

Sorry for making you drive all the way out there. And to Bayer's Lake at that. Ugh.

[djemzine]

Back on topic..

I was at Home Depot last night and they had the 24" two-stage Snotek snowblowers on sale for $499 (reg $649 I think).

There were 8 or 9 of them at the Halifax store.

If I hadn't already bought one, I probably would have picked it up.

Ya those might have been the 208CC ones with the remote deflector chute.

[ndog2]

do you guys think there will be deals to be had during boxing day/week on snow blowers?

Last year walmart and home depot brought in a special buy snowblower for boxing day. The walmart unit was the $199 poulan pro single stage that they recently brought back to get rid of left over stock. I don't recall home depot's but if you check last years thread there's some talk about it. Home depot also started putting the regular models on clearance but those deals varied by store and model (some didn't go on clearance until much later) depending on what they had left.

[Marty25]

This Snow Joe MAX 13.5 A Electric Snow Thrower (http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=10353218&whse=BCCA&topnav=&cat=22254&hierPath=114*3241*22254*&lang=en-CA) is onsale $25 off for $175, whats the general consensus on these on RFD? From the reviews I've found they are about 70-80% positive

[htc***]

This Snow Joe MAX 13.5 A Electric Snow Thrower (http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=10353218&whse=BCCA&topnav=&cat=22254&hierPath=114*3241*22254*&lang=en-CA) is onsale $25 off for $175, whats the general consensus on these on RFD? From the reviews I've found they are about 70-80% positive

Price Reduction from November 7, 2011 to November 20, 2011 (4 more days from now). You have to have a Costco's membership to buy it.

[axelmazda]

Pretty good article for preventative maintenance.

http://gilsonsnowblowers.com/snowoperation.html

[AvacadoLover]

This Snow Joe MAX 13.5 A Electric Snow Thrower (http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=10353218&whse=BCCA&topnav=&cat=22254&hierPath=114*3241*22254*&lang=en-CA) is onsale $25 off for $175, whats the general consensus on these on RFD? From the reviews I've found they are about 70-80% positive

That is a great deal. I was hoping to find something about that price range (cheap) for my 4 cars driveway in Toronto-snow weather.

Love to see some feedback.

[djpositivek]

Oh man, I am very sorry for that. I was there last night for something totally unrelated and saw them as I was walking in. I didn't spend much time with them as I needed to stay focused on my reason for being there, but I saw a 24" SnoTek, with prices $499 and $649 on them.

Sorry for making you drive all the way out there. And to Bayer's Lake at that. Ugh.

No worries I went over my lunch and wasn't too far out. It was worth investigating (would have been a good deal) since they wouldn't match Rona's 15% off coupon recently. Will keep an eye out for deals. I've made it through 7 winters with my old scoop and some muscle despite my 120 ft driveway :cheesygri

[axelmazda]

Found this deal at XS cargo , store warranty comes at 30 days but they have replacement warranty at 1,2 and 3 years from what I was told today.

$699.00
http://www.shopxscargo.com/product_catalogue/cat_product_details.asp?category_id=17&product_code=31128&sub_category_1_id=93&category=Power%20Equipment

more about their warranty here
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shopxscargo.com%2Fpdf% 2FPPP_brochure_11.10.pdf

[cyril2]

Found this deal at XS cargo , store warranty comes at 30 days but they have replacement warranty at 1,2 and 3 years from what I was told today.

$699.00
http://www.shopxscargo.com/product_catalogue/cat_product_details.asp?category_id=17&product_code=31128&sub_category_1_id=93&category=Power%20Equipment

more about their warranty here
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shopxscargo.com%2Fpdf% 2FPPP_brochure_11.10.pdfUp to you what you do of course but I would not buy a snowblower from XS cargo nor would I trust a warranty from them.

[CHIA]

Found this deal at XS cargo , store warranty comes at 30 days but they have replacement warranty at 1,2 and 3 years from what I was told today.

$699.00
http://www.shopxscargo.com/product_catalogue/cat_product_details.asp?category_id=17&product_code=31128&sub_category_1_id=93&category=Power%20Equipment

more about their warranty here
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shopxscargo.com%2Fpdf% 2FPPP_brochure_11.10.pdf

Here's some more detail info on the machine, although I would never buy it from XS personally, scary:

http://www.p3power.ca/st_gse5230stg.html

Selling new for $1399 - http://www.cpe-direct.com/interface_1.php?record_id=6

[CHIA]

Found this deal at XS cargo , store warranty comes at 30 days but they have replacement warranty at 1,2 and 3 years from what I was told today.

$699.00
http://www.shopxscargo.com/product_catalogue/cat_product_details.asp?category_id=17&product_code=31128&sub_category_1_id=93&category=Power%20Equipment

more about their warranty here
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shopxscargo.com%2Fpdf% 2FPPP_brochure_11.10.pdf

Here's some more detail info on the machine, although I would never buy it from XS personally, scary.

Spend an extra $100 on a warranty that gives a store credit for $650 when it breaks down, no thanks, not there.

http://www.p3power.ca/st_gse5230stg.html

Selling new for $1399 - http://www.cpe-direct.com/interface_1.php?record_id=6

[cyril2]

Here's some more detail info on the machine, although I would never buy it from XS personally, scary.

Spend an extra $100 on a warranty that gives a store credit for $650 when it breaks down, no thanks, not there.

http://www.p3power.ca/st_gse5230stg.html

Selling new for $1399 - http://www.cpe-direct.com/interface_1.php?record_id=6Well buying direct from them seems even scarier. All deals final they do not repair or replace. At least with XS cargo you MIGHT get store credit. I got credit once on an item I bought there but it was like pulling teeth to get it. These guys say they buy direct from the manufacturer but don't tell you who that is or how to get you warranty honored in the 30 day period. They also list 10 different kinds of products on their main page but 9 of them are coming soon.

As for XS Cargo even if they do give you store credit which at my store is extremely hard to get what good is store credit in the middle of the winter when they no longer stock any snowblowers. You get stuck buying hundreds of dollars of their other junk and you still need to go out and buy another snow blower.

[axelmazda]

Well buying direct from them seems even scarier. All deals final they do not repair or replace. At least with XS cargo you MIGHT get store credit. I got credit once on an item I bought there but it was like pulling teeth to get it. These guys say they buy direct from the manufacturer but don't tell you who that is or how to get you warranty honored in the 30 day period. They also list 10 different kinds of products on their main page but 9 of them are coming soon.

As for XS Cargo even if they do give you store credit which at my store is extremely hard to get what good is store credit in the middle of the winter when they no longer stock any snowblowers. You get stuck buying hundreds of dollars of their other junk and you still need to go out and buy another snow blower.


price seems decent but yea I get where your coming from in terms of warranty and store credit its a bit shady

[polypep]

Found this deal at XS cargo , store warranty comes at 30 days but they have replacement warranty at 1,2 and 3 years from what I was told today.

$699.00
http://www.shopxscargo.com/product_catalogue/cat_product_details.asp?category_id=17&product_code=31128&sub_category_1_id=93&category=Power%20Equipment

more about their warranty here
https://docs.google.com/viewer?url=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.shopxscargo.com%2Fpdf% 2FPPP_brochure_11.10.pdf

Buy from Princess Auto instead. I do not remember their price, but it is the same or very similar unit (P3) and comes with a better warranty. (All PA power equipment is minimum 1 year but check and see if they would take it back if it breaks, I bet they will).

[chen0289]

for a eletric snowblower can we use 14gauge or does it have to be 12 gauge extension cord?

wheres the cheapest place to buy 12 gauge cords?

[ivorm]

for a eletric snowblower can we use 14gauge or does it have to be 12 gauge extension cord?

wheres the cheapest place to buy 12 gauge cords?

I think Costco usually has a 100' 12 gauge cord for $40, at least they did last year.

[milkman_tom]

That is a great deal. I was hoping to find something about that price range (cheap) for my 4 cars driveway in Toronto-snow weather.

Love to see some feedback.

If you are talking about the one from Costco, then don't get it. I got it last year from Costco, it will work on light stuff (1 to 2 inch) well, but when the snowplow machine drive by from the City, the machine will be useless. I return it after a month.

Anyway good luck on your search.

[TrueDon]

This Snow Joe MAX 13.5 A Electric Snow Thrower (http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?prodid=10353218&whse=BCCA&topnav=&cat=22254&hierPath=114*3241*22254*&lang=en-CA) is onsale $25 off for $175, whats the general consensus on these on RFD? From the reviews I've found they are about 70-80% positive

I ordered this Joe MAX back before the $25 discount, I was going to order the Joe Max again at the lower price and return one at the original priced invoice but was able to grab the $198 136cc Poulan Pro from Walmart. So I'm debating which one to keep. But just a note for those ordering the Snow Joe; the delivery person just left the box on the front porch. Even though it was an hour between the time it was left and I came home, it was surprising to see it just sitting there luckily my neighborhood as pretty quiet.

[wak4]

Hey guys

I don't know if it's been discussed before but costco has this Poulan PRO® 250 cc Gas-powered 27-in. Dual-stage Snow Thrower going for 999$...
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10354633&search=ST1110&Sp=S&Mo=1&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=ST1110&Ntt=ST1110&ec=1&forcelang=en-CA&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

I'm pretty sure that near october they had the same model but without all the yellow... Could anyone point me out the differences with this model since it's 200$ more (without the rebate and comparing only online) than the black version...

Thx

[axelmazda]

Hey guys

I don't know if it's been discussed before but costco has this Poulan PRO® 250 cc Gas-powered 27-in. Dual-stage Snow Thrower going for 999$...
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10354633&search=ST1110&Sp=S&Mo=1&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=ST1110&Ntt=ST1110&ec=1&forcelang=en-CA&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

I'm pretty sure that near october they had the same model but without all the yellow... Could anyone point me out the differences with this model since it's 200$ more (without the rebate and comparing only online) than the black version...

Thx


The price seems close to the Ariens that was on sale at HD a couple weeks back , this one has a stronger B&S engine, the other one was 208cc I think,

[Zenthar]

Hey guys

I don't know if it's been discussed before but costco has this Poulan PRO® 250 cc Gas-powered 27-in. Dual-stage Snow Thrower going for 999$...
http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10354633&search=ST1110&Sp=S&Mo=1&No=0&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&N=0&whse=BCCA&Dx=mode+matchallpartial&Ntk=Text_Search&Dr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&Ne=4000000&D=ST1110&Ntt=ST1110&ec=1&forcelang=en-CA&Ntx=mode+matchallpartial&Nty=1&topnav=&s=1

I'm pretty sure that near october they had the same model but without all the yellow... Could anyone point me out the differences with this model since it's 200$ more (without the rebate and comparing only online) than the black version...

ThxI was told (here (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/snowblower-thrower-deal-watch-thread-2011-12-a-1068827/49/#post13721572)) that the engine is good, but the build is poor; no idea how true this is however.

[axelmazda]

I was told (here (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/snowblower-thrower-deal-watch-thread-2011-12-a-1068827/49/#post13721572)) that the engine is good, but the build is poor; no idea how true this is however.

I was warned at the home depot that the Poulan frames are crap and the only reason they sell is because of the B&S engines,

Source: Home Depot Caledonia

[cheaper_than_cheap]

I was warned at the home depot that the Poulan frames are crap and the only reason they sell is because of the B&S engines,

Source: Home Depot Caledonia
Hmm. I wonder whether Home Depot sells Poulan snowblowers?

Could that possibly have anything to do with bad mouthing Poulan? :razz:

[CHIA]

Hmm. I wonder whether Home Depot sells Poulan snowblowers?

Could that possibly have anything to do with bad mouthing Poulan? :razz:

Unheard of! LOL

[axelmazda]

Hmm. I wonder whether Home Depot sells Poulan snowblowers?

Could that possibly have anything to do with bad mouthing Poulan? :razz:

lol I havent looked into Poulans so I am just posting what Ive been told by HD

[snace]

This thread is pretty intense.

I wanted to get a smaller snow thrower - and if I wasn't out of the country recently I would have taken advantage of the Walmart deal. But now I think I need something a little bigger and will spend the money. For me, smaller was better for storage, but I realize that I will have to deal with this issue no matter what. I can get a bigger unit and have it work better. Would an electric single stage work - prob not.

What is the best value for $600 - $1000? I was looking at the snoTek from hd:
http://http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-28-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918482 (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-28-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918482)

Or the Costco poulan pro:


(http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10329128&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA%7C114%7C3241%7C22254&N=4010129&Mo=4&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22254&Ns=P_Price%7C1%7C%7CP_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&hierPath=114*3241*22254*&topnav=)

Am I better off spending a little more and going up to the $1000 mark? What is important to me is reliability, convenience, speed, being able to use it for small snows easily (not be overkill), useful options. I don't know enough about them t this point but want to decide soon.

[snace]

I was told (here (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/snowblower-thrower-deal-watch-thread-2011-12-a-1068827/49/#post13721572)) that the engine is good, but the build is poor; no idea how true this is however.

What did you end up ordering?

[ivorm]

I ordered this Joe MAX back before the $25 discount, I was going to order the Joe Max again at the lower price and return one at the original priced invoice but was able to grab the $198 136cc Poulan Pro from Walmart. So I'm debating which one to keep. But just a note for those ordering the Snow Joe; the delivery person just left the box on the front porch. Even though it was an hour between the time it was left and I came home, it was surprising to see it just sitting there luckily my neighborhood as pretty quiet.

I don't think you would have to return the SnowJoe to get the $25 back, just go to the nearest Costco with your receipt, maybe you could even do it over the phone since it was an online order. Someone else might know more about that.

I have the snowjoe from last year, it's fine for light snow up to maybe 6", after that it gets pretty counter productive, you have to keep ramming it against the snow. For EOD (end of driveway) stuff or when the snow starts drifting on the side walk between the snow banks later in the season it starts having a lot of trouble. It would be great for clearing a deck or some thing like that. It pulls itself along pretty good, my driveway is on a slight down hill so that helps. Also the cord is pain.

I think you'd be crazy not to keep the poulan over the snowjoe, it's got to be better. Maybe someone who owns can chime in on it's performance.

[Zenthar]

What did you end up ordering?Still haven't ordered anything yet :(
I might try to PM HD with an Ottawa store that seels the Ariens ST28LE for 1039$ (used to be 999$) which is still better than the 1119$ online (and 1399$ I think in-store).

[NotMoneyGuy]

This thread is pretty intense.

I wanted to get a smaller snow thrower - and if I wasn't out of the country recently I would have taken advantage of the Walmart deal. But now I think I need something a little bigger and will spend the money. For me, smaller was better for storage, but I realize that I will have to deal with this issue no matter what. I can get a bigger unit and have it work better. Would an electric single stage work - prob not.

What is the best value for $600 - $1000? I was looking at the snoTek from hd:
http://http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-28-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918482 (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-28-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918482)

Or the Costco poulan pro:


(http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10329128&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA%7C114%7C3241%7C22254&N=4010129&Mo=4&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22254&Ns=P_Price%7C1%7C%7CP_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&hierPath=114*3241*22254*&topnav=)

Am I better off spending a little more and going up to the $1000 mark? What is important to me is reliability, convenience, speed, being able to use it for small snows easily (not be overkill), useful options. I don't know enough about them t this point but want to decide soon.

IMHO, this: http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345 Ariens Deluxe 28 somehow PM'd down at HD by getting them to match some competitor's promo to bring it under/near $1000. ($1119 x .9 = $1007.10, $1119 x .85 = $951.15 etc.)

Over-kill maybe for smaller snows, but isn't the whole idea of a snow thrower to assist you with the big snow dumps and EOD? Shovel the small stuff and bring out the beast when needed. Can't go wrong with a historic company out of Wisconsin, great support for online manuals and parts lists, dealer network for service and parts. Good luck.

[axelmazda]

This thread is pretty intense.

I wanted to get a smaller snow thrower - and if I wasn't out of the country recently I would have taken advantage of the Walmart deal. But now I think I need something a little bigger and will spend the money. For me, smaller was better for storage, but I realize that I will have to deal with this issue no matter what. I can get a bigger unit and have it work better. Would an electric single stage work - prob not.

What is the best value for $600 - $1000? I was looking at the snoTek from hd:
http://http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-28-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918482 (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/sno-tek-28-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width-six-speed/918482)

Or the Costco poulan pro:


(http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10329128&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA%7C114%7C3241%7C22254&N=4010129&Mo=4&No=1&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22254&Ns=P_Price%7C1%7C%7CP_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&hierPath=114*3241*22254*&topnav=)

Am I better off spending a little more and going up to the $1000 mark? What is important to me is reliability, convenience, speed, being able to use it for small snows easily (not be overkill), useful options. I don't know enough about them t this point but want to decide soon.


you got lots of options at 600-1000 for really good snow blowers, the best one IMHO would be the Ariens , when I was doing research for mine I read allot of article about how these units actually last decades, they are pretty sturdy . At your price range you should be looking with something that has a B&S engine, metal chute, power steering ( both wheels), somethings which i dont find necessary but you might also want to look for is heated hand grips and light. also make sure you dont buy a single stage snow blower, their no good in really wet snow from what Ive read.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24148-2-stage-sno-throltsupgtreglt-supgt-snow-thrower/918483 on sale for 999

Some people were also price matching this last week http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24148-2-stage-sno-throltsupgtreglt-supgt-snow-thrower/918483 for under a 1000.00 which is a really good deal.

[NotMoneyGuy]

Some people were also price matching this last week http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24148-2-stage-sno-throltsupgtreglt-supgt-snow-thrower/918483 for under a 1000.00 which is a really good deal.

Please do not buy the Ariens Compact 24 for $999 without first comparing its detailed specs to the Ariens Deluxe 24 (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st24le-deluxe-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width/954281)for $130 more at $1129 if you must have a smaller 24" machine (i.e. garage space issues), rather than the $10 less costly (!?!?!) Deluxe 28" at $1119.

The only problem I can see is that the Deluxe 24" seems to be online only, an added cost (delivery) for those intending to haul units home themselves from a store.

[axelmazda]

Please do not buy the Ariens Compact 24 for $999 without first comparing its detailed specs to the Ariens Deluxe 24 (http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st24le-deluxe-24-120v-electric-start-24-inch-clearing-width/954281)for $130 more at $1129 if you must have a smaller 24" machine (i.e. garage space issues), rather than the $10 less costly (!?!?!) Deluxe 28" at $1119.

The only problem I can see is that the Deluxe 24" seems to be online only, an added cost (delivery) for those intending to haul units home themselves from a store.


he/she can also wait till the deluxe 24 inch goes on sale, no need to rush yet IMO, the 28 inch is also a good option at 1119, eventually it will go on sale sometime within the next month, HD usually cyles their sales, I.E, one iteam on sale for 1-2 weeks.

[tetris]

i missed the Craftsman 26" one last week 50% off, spotted this (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-205cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-variable-speed/671-000088716-1696098)thrower for $699.00, Is it a good price or it may go lower in coming days or any comparable thrower in this price range? Any suggestion? Now in Regina snowing and it looks like will last until March next year.

[htc***]

i missed the Craftsman 26" one last week 50% off, spotted this (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-205cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-variable-speed/671-000088716-1696098)thrower for $699.00, Is it a good price or it may go lower in coming days or any comparable thrower in this price range? Any suggestion? Now in Regina snowing and it looks like will last until March next year.


How is about this one $599.99 until November 27, 2011


CRAFTSMAN®/MD 24'' 179cc Dual Stage Snow Blower (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-179cc-dual-stage-snow-blower/671-000749275-31AS62EE599)

[benyl]

Is this a decent blower? It is probably overkill for what I need. took advantage of a website glitch.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100

I went to Sears on the 12th and wanted the tax free price. They said that was "yesterday" only (the 11th). I bought it anyway for $1049.

I came home and looked through this thread and saw the code for 15.5% off. Added the snowblower to my cart, put in the code and voila: $999 blower ($1049 with GST) for $886.15 all in.

[zalapski]

Aside from the specification differences between the units one should go in-store to compare the physical size difference. If the "man" of the house will be doing all the snow clearing then the Deluxe 28 may be an option because of its bulkiness. But if the snow clearing job will be spread out among members of the household then the Compact 24 may be more suitable because of the smaller size and ease of maneuverability compared to the Deluxe 28.

Either way you cannot go wrong with this Made in USA product.




Some people were also price matching this last week http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24148-2-stage-sno-throltsupgtreglt-supgt-snow-thrower/918483 for under a 1000.00 which is a really good deal.

[jory29]

Is this a decent blower? It is probably overkill for what I need. took advantage of a website glitch.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100

I went to Sears on the 12th and wanted the tax free price. They said that was "yesterday" only (the 11th). I bought it anyway for $1049.

I came home and looked through this thread and saw the code for 15.5% off. Added the snowblower to my cart, put in the code and voila: $999 blower ($1049 with GST) for $886.15 all in.


What code was this? I can't find it...

[tetris]

How is about this one $599.99 until November 27, 2011


CRAFTSMAN®/MD 24'' 179cc Dual Stage Snow Blower (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-179cc-dual-stage-snow-blower/671-000749275-31AS62EE599)

I looked at it, but more power with $699.00 one and better engine and compactness to easily place in garage corner.

[jory29]

Anyone know what the price of the blowers in Costco are right now? $999 on line, but in-store should be a lot less money? I know it Aug. it was $700!

Edited to add: No, it wasn't - it was the 24" model that was $700 in Aug.

[htc***]

What code was this? I can't find it...

I think this is the promo code 941612468 at checkout to deduct 15.5%. Try it and see how it goes.

According from Sears CA wensite (Please note that your promotion or coupon code will be applied if applicable for this order.)

[jory29]

I think this is the promo code 941612468 at checkout to deduct 15.5%. Try it and see how it goes.

According from Sears CA wensite (Please note that your promotion or coupon code will be applied if applicable for this order.)

Thanks, I guess it's not available for use anymore: The order you have placed does not meet the requirements for the bonus coupon applied.

I'm still not sold on the expensive ones.... mid-range seems better in some ways to me.

[benyl]

Anyone know what the price of the blowers in Costco are right now? $999 on line, but in-store should be a lot less money? I know it Aug. it was $700!

According to this thread: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/costco-west-deals-nov-14-20-duracell-harry-potter-dvd-mango-salsa-kd-mico-popcorn-1104933/?prefixid=Home9

$899.

http://www3.telus.net/public/tw2110/Nov14/87.JPG

[jory29]

Thanks, Benyl, you are right, I phoned in before I got your posting, and they told me it was that price. They also said they have a 24" Poulan for $699.99. (Alberta)

[jory29]

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480#BVRRWidgetID

Can anyone comment on the reliabilty of this model? I think this one might be $500 in-store?

[htc***]

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/snotek-20-120v-electric-start-single-speed-20-inch-clearing-width/918480#BVRRWidgetID

Can anyone comment on the reliabilty of this model? I think this one might be $500 in-store?

It has only a single speed.

[jory29]

It has only a single speed.

Is that bad for heavy snow loads, or is it too powerful and doesn't work as well on lighter snow loads? Sorry, we've never owned a snowblower before.

[htc***]

Is that bad for heavy snow loads, or is it too powerful and doesn't work as well on lighter snow loads? Sorry, we've never owned a snowblower before.

It has 208 cc and should have more speed. Usually, most blowers with that cc should have 6 speed forward and 2 speed reverse. 1st or 2nd speed is for heavy snow load or ice build up. 3rd to 6th speed is depend on snow load (sluggish or wet snow or light bluffy).

How to Pick a Snow Blower (http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Pick-a-Snow-Blower-255042288)

talk about 6 speed. (http://www.5min.com/Video/Craftsman-Snowblower-95281379)

[jory29]

It has 208 cc and should have more speed. Usually, most blowers with that cc should have 6 speed forward and 2 speed reverse. 1st or 2nd speed is for heavy snow load or ice build up. 3rd to 6th speed is depend on snow load (sluggish or wet snow or light bluffy).


Thanks!! I appreciate your comments and information.

[JFK]

It has only a single speed.

Beware, one-speed means slow speed (Probably #2 on a 1-6 scale)

[axelmazda]

Is that bad for heavy snow loads, or is it too powerful and doesn't work as well on lighter snow loads? Sorry, we've never owned a snowblower before.

Depends where you live though, mine has the 6 speed and I dont think I will ever use the 2 reverse speeds, maybe just the 2-3 forward speeds.

EDIT: Its better to have something that might be more than you need because every year theirs that 1 snow storm where you wish you had a better snow blower, just do research ALLOT, wait for a sale and give your self enough time to know all the major stores prices,

For me I got a 6 speed because I know I will use 2-3 gears at least, most of the snow in Toronto is fluffy not dense

[axelmazda]

It has 208 cc and should have more speed. Usually, most blowers with that cc should have 6 speed forward and 2 speed reverse. 1st or 2nd speed is for heavy snow load or ice build up. 3rd to 6th speed is depend on snow load (sluggish or wet snow or light bluffy).

How to Pick a Snow Blower (http://www.5min.com/Video/How-to-Pick-a-Snow-Blower-255042288)

talk about 6 speed. (http://www.5min.com/Video/Craftsman-Snowblower-95281379)

really good videos, thanks for the post! Iam happy to hear I bought the right snowblower

[htc***]

Depends where you live though, mine has the 6 speed and I dont think I will ever use the 2 reverse speeds, maybe just the 2-3 forward speeds.

+1. When you need its speed, you know it there.

[Zenthar]

Sears has the CRAFTSMAN 27'' 305cc Dual Stage Snowblower (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-305cc-dual-stage-snowblower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696101) for 999$ (B&S engine). Any comments on this compared to the Costo Poulan 250cc or the similar Ariens?

Sorry if this is a repost, but I tried to search this thread to see if someone mentioned this before and couldn't.

[bubba_gump]

Superstore is having a no tax event this weekend, anybody seen any branches carrying snow blowers?

[headrippa]

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-277cc-dual-stage-snow-thrower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TE599


Does anyone have any opinion of this model, this poor Aussie has had it with shoveling driveways for 2 years and wants the easy way out.

[Gotoff]

whats the best snow thrower under 300/400 ?

I'm in scarborough, so we don't get that many snow storms..

[oneowl]

The 27" 305 c.c Craftsman is awesome. I picked one up a few days ago and will get price matched this weekend. Its actually made by Huscavarna. For 1000$ dollars this is easily the best deal I could find anywhere, if you are willing to spend that much. But the difference between a 700$ sno-tek and this thing is huge. Power steering, 16" wheels and large B&S motor. All metal chute, which I prefer and is recommended by most techs.

[axelmazda]

whats the best snow thrower under 300/400 ?

I'm in scarborough, so we don't get that many snow storms..

at that price you should be looking at a single stage thrower , You could possibly get a starting model two stage with no electric start and with manual chute control

[axelmazda]

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-277cc-dual-stage-snow-thrower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TE599


Does anyone have any opinion of this model, this poor Aussie has had it with shoveling driveways for 2 years and wants the easy way out.

the price for a model similar to this but 26 inches was 1299 than 649 than back to 999 and now its 949 so I would consider this price high
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-277cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TF599

[khiz]

Have any of you used your single stage snowblowers yet. I'm looking at the Toro 621qze or the Craftsman 205cc and can't decide on either. Just wanted to know if any of you have recently purchased either one and was it worth it or should i just go dual stage. btw...i live in mississauga (thats why i'm considering a single stage)

[axelmazda]

Have any of you used your single stage snowblowers yet. I'm looking at the Toro 621qze or the Craftsman 205cc and can't decide on either. Just wanted to know if any of you have recently purchased either one and was it worth it or should i just go dual stage. btw...i live in mississauga (thats why i'm considering a single stage)

go with the twin stage, its better to have that just in case, single stage is better for light snow, twin stage is better for heavier dense snow, 5 inches of dense wet snow is like 20 inches of fluffy snow.

in dense snow you have to push and pull the single stage so it can plow through the snow, with twin stage you just put it in gear and it drives it self, with a snow blower you want to have less work, and no aching back

[gerrythegreat]

Sears has the CRAFTSMAN 27'' 305cc Dual Stage Snowblower (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-305cc-dual-stage-snowblower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696101) for 999$ (B&S engine). Any comments on this compared to the Costo Poulan 250cc or the similar Ariens?

Sorry if this is a repost, but I tried to search this thread to see if someone mentioned this before and couldn't.

compared to the Ariens at HD, which one would you guys choose?

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/ariens-st28le-deluxe-120v-electric-start-28-inch-clearing-width/954345

[htc***]

go with the twin stage, its better to have that just in case, single stage is better for light snow, twin stage is better for heavier dense snow, 5 inches of dense wet snow is like 20 inches of fluffy snow.

in dense snow you have to push and pull the single stage so it can plow through the snow, with twin stage you just put it in gear and it drives it self, with a snow blower you want to have less work, and no aching back


+1, that why snow blower come in handy.

[Carc]

Have any of you used your single stage snowblowers yet. I'm looking at the Toro 621qze or the Craftsman 205cc and can't decide on either. Just wanted to know if any of you have recently purchased either one and was it worth it or should i just go dual stage. btw...i live in mississauga (thats why i'm considering a single stage)

I have a single stage Toro and love it! I got rid of my dual stage. It really depends on your driveway. Can you throw your snow from the driveway to the snowbank or do you have to throw it ahead and then on to the snowbank? If you can get rid of it right away all you need is a single stage. They are self propelling as well with the auger pulling it along. They are a lot quicker as well and easier to move around. As well as smaller for storage.

I have the Toro 221QE which is 141cc and the 621 is a 163cc, so it is bigger. Toro is a proven product and I don't know much about the Craftsmen.

Hope this helps!

You may have to go over the driveway twice on a big snow but this would be to clean up (very seldom). Also a single stage cleans down to asphalt, brick or what have you. One thing you can't do is clear off grass or gravel.
By the way I live in Georgetown north of Mississauga.

[wilsonlam97]

Have any of you used your single stage snowblowers yet. I'm looking at the Toro 621qze or the Craftsman 205cc and can't decide on either. Just wanted to know if any of you have recently purchased either one and was it worth it or should i just go dual stage. btw...i live in mississauga (thats why i'm considering a single stage)


Nope, no snow here in Scarborough. I think single stage is good enough for the gta. I've tested mine, it seems powerful enough.

[polypep]

Have any of you used your single stage snowblowers yet. I'm looking at the Toro 621qze or the Craftsman 205cc and can't decide on either. Just wanted to know if any of you have recently purchased either one and was it worth it or should i just go dual stage. btw...i live in mississauga (thats why i'm considering a single stage)

Used my Toro 221QE (same as 621QZE in design but smaller and 2 stroke engine) 1st time today in Edm. I was blown away with its performance on paved surfaces. A job that would have taken me over 30 mins was done in 5 min. It threw snow a good 25 ft away and I am looking forward to using it again.

[goofball]

Have any of you used your single stage snowblowers yet. I'm looking at the Toro 621qze or the Craftsman 205cc and can't decide on either. Just wanted to know if any of you have recently purchased either one and was it worth it or should i just go dual stage. btw...i live in mississauga (thats why i'm considering a single stage)

I just bought the craftsman from a retired couple that have had it for 2 seasons, and it worked well for them. Only reason they got rid of it was they went with snow removal instead, they don't care for the snow shovelling/blowing.

[cyril2]

Buy from Princess Auto instead. I do not remember their price, but it is the same or very similar unit (P3) and comes with a better warranty. (All PA power equipment is minimum 1 year but check and see if they would take it back if it breaks, I bet they will).

I agree if you want that snowblower Princess auto is a MUCH better place to buy it. They honor their warranties. I have never had a problem returning anything. With XS cargo you basically have no warranty and who knows what this machine is like.

[djemzine]

Hey guys got my Sno Tek 24" 208cc snow blower delivered to me earlier this afternoon. Set it up, but I am experiencing one setback i.e. when I attached the remote deflector cable where it should be and when I tried it out, the chute does not change angles at all :S. The crank works to turn the chute and even powered up the snowblower, but the remote chute deflector does not work. Have I done something wrong here or? Should I call HD or Ariens/Sno Tek?

[polypep]

Hey guys got my Sno Tek 24" 208cc snow blower delivered to me earlier this afternoon. Set it up, but I am experiencing one setback i.e. when I attached the remote deflector cable where it should be and when I tried it out, the chute does not change angles at all :S. The crank works to turn the chute and even powered up the snowblower, but the remote chute deflector does not work. Have I done something wrong here or? Should I call HD or Ariens/Sno Tek?

Call the 1800 number that is included with every purchase. It will connect youbto customer service and they will help you out.

[zalapski]

Had the same issue with my cousin's Ariens 24 Compact. Upon closer inspection the deflector piece had quite an interference/tight fit with the chute. Even though some sort of vaseline-like substance was factory applied it did not sufficiently lubricate the two parts completely. Am thinking more lubricant would help? Anybody have a better suggestion? Thanks.



Hey guys got my Sno Tek 24" 208cc snow blower delivered to me earlier this afternoon. Set it up, but I am experiencing one setback i.e. when I attached the remote deflector cable where it should be and when I tried it out, the chute does not change angles at all :S. The crank works to turn the chute and even powered up the snowblower, but the remote chute deflector does not work. Have I done something wrong here or? Should I call HD or Ariens/Sno Tek?

[axelmazda]

Hey guys got my Sno Tek 24" 208cc snow blower delivered to me earlier this afternoon. Set it up, but I am experiencing one setback i.e. when I attached the remote deflector cable where it should be and when I tried it out, the chute does not change angles at all :S. The crank works to turn the chute and even powered up the snowblower, but the remote chute deflector does not work. Have I done something wrong here or? Should I call HD or Ariens/Sno Tek?

if your sure its connected right but it seems stiff than apply some WD40 to it, that should fix it considerably, this pretty much applies to all snowblowers, its not just sno-teks .

Another problem might be that the cable is loose and you need to torque the actual cable

[oneowl]

the price for a model similar to this but 26 inches was 1299 than 649 than back to 999 and now its 949 so I would consider this price high
http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-277cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TF599

Hi, the one that is 305cc is made by husquvarna, the 277 is mtd. Its a world apart in terms of quality. The MTD is good but anything made by AYP/Huscy is just pure sweetness!

[oneowl]

Also the one is a Craftsman (powermore) engine and the other is a true Briggs and Stratton. One comes from china the other is from the U.S. I agree that the 277 c.c is not that great a deal, but the 305cc 14.5 hp husqy for $1000 is a hard price to beat, all specs being equal.

[axelmazda]

Hi, the one that is 305cc is made by husquvarna, the 277 is mtd. Its a world apart in terms of quality. The MTD is good but anything made by AYP/Huscy is just pure sweetness!


Husquvara engines are supplied by LCT ( same as Sno-tek engine) BUT the frame build quality is superior to both craftsman and Sno-tek.
Essentially their both Chinease engines, as where the B&S is made in the "good old usa"

http://www.husqvarna.com/ca/en/homeowner/products/snow-throwers/husqvarna-snow-throwers-for-homeowners/

[oneowl]

Sears has the CRAFTSMAN 27'' 305cc Dual Stage Snowblower (http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-305cc-dual-stage-snowblower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696101) for 999$ (B&S engine). Any comments on this compared to the Costo Poulan 250cc or the similar Ariens?

Sorry if this is a repost, but I tried to search this thread to see if someone mentioned this before and couldn't.

Hi, I believe both are made by AYP which is a good thing and is typically of high quality. The craftsman has a larger B&S motor which never hurts and costs 100 dollars more. I assume the poulan has power steering also. If so both are great blowers and good deals and the better blower would depend on you need for motor size. Power steering does come in handy with larger mid-size units like this, and I could not see it listed on the poulan box.

[oneowl]

Husquvara engines are supplied by LCT ( same as Sno-tek engine) BUT the frame build quality is superior to both craftsman and Sno-tek.
Essentially their both Chinease engines, as where the B&S is made in the "good old usa"

http://www.husqvarna.com/ca/en/homeowner/products/snow-throwers/husqvarna-snow-throwers-for-homeowners/

your right, but some craftsman are built in the husqy plant on husqy frames (like the one listed above). the B&S motors are used on both Craftsman(mtd & ayp) and Sno-tek(mtd). The key is to make sure if you buy a craftsman you know what you getting. This is one a pure husqy so frame built quality is excellent. Craftsman blowers and tractors that are low to mid range are generally from mtd and then mid to high range is from ayp. So its up to the buyer to determine which unit they are getting. So 50$ more to go from a mtd with 277c.c powermore engine to a husqy with 305 c.c B&S is a huge step up (both badged as craftsman).

[djemzine]

if your sure its connected right but it seems stiff than apply some WD40 to it, that should fix it considerably, this pretty much applies to all snowblowers, its not just sno-teks .

Another problem might be that the cable is loose and you need to torque the actual cable

Hmm, well that's what I think, there's not much force applied on the cable to change the degree of the chute when I use the lever. I am sure that it needs to be tightened some where. Worst case, I'll just call up Ariens and have them guide me through it.

Also when I fired it up for the first time, it had a pungent smell of gas (filled up gas that I got at the pump yesterday), so I had to leave the garage door open for sometime. That's common right?

[ndog2]

Hmm, well that's what I think, there's not much force applied on the cable to change the degree of the chute when I use the lever. I am sure that it needs to be tightened some where. Worst case, I'll just call up Ariens and have them guide me through it.

Also when I fired it up for the first time, it had a pungent smell of gas (filled up gas that I got at the pump yesterday), so I had to leave the garage door open for sometime. That's common right?

I'd probably just call up Ariens might as well use some of that support you paid for with the purchase.

Do you mean smells like raw unburnt gas? If that's the case check for any leaks. If you mean just exhaust odors engines are usually coated with various sealants and lubricants to protect them during shipping and the time they sit at the store. All that stuff burns off the first time you fire it up and can smell. Next time you start it; it should be fine if that's the issue.

[axelmazda]

So 50$ more to go from a mtd with 277c.c powermore engine to a husqy with 305 c.c B&S is a huge step up (both badged as craftsman).

agreed, very big step up for little cost

[axelmazda]

Hmm, well that's what I think, there's not much force applied on the cable to change the degree of the chute when I use the lever. I am sure that it needs to be tightened some where. Worst case, I'll just call up Ariens and have them guide me through it.

Also when I fired it up for the first time, it had a pungent smell of gas (filled up gas that I got at the pump yesterday), so I had to leave the garage door open for sometime. That's common right?

maybe its cause of the oil, If your came with oil prefilled, drain it and put new oil in it, only 4.99 at canadian tire for 5w-30, who knows how long the oils been sitting in the snow blower.

[djemzine]

maybe its cause of the oil, If your came with oil prefilled, drain it and put new oil in it, only 4.99 at canadian tire for 5w-30, who knows how long the oils been sitting in the snow blower.

Good point. Ya we bought separate oil for the snowblower by Ariens at HD. Noob question, how do I drain the existing oil and I'd need an oil pan correct? Also how do I dispose of that oil per se?

Thanks

[cyril2]

Good point. Ya we bought separate oil for the snowblower by Ariens at HD. Noob question, how do I drain the existing oil and I'd need an oil pan correct? Also how do I dispose of that oil per se?

ThanksCheck the owners manual, it should show you how to drain the oil. It usually means removing a plug at the bottom of the engine with a wrench. Yes you will need something to catch the oil in. Most stations that change oil for a living will dispose of it for you. Phone a few and check.

You may also find a funnel useful for the procedure.

[axelmazda]

Check the owners manual, it should show you how to drain the oil. It usually means removing a plug at the bottom of the engine with a wrench. Yes you will need something to catch the oil in. Most stations that change oil for a living will dispose of it for you. Phone a few and check.

You may also find a funnel useful for the procedure.

+1

[direct-x]

Check the owners manual, it should show you how to drain the oil. It usually means removing a plug at the bottom of the engine with a wrench. Yes you will need something to catch the oil in. Most stations that change oil for a living will dispose of it for you. Phone a few and check.

You may also find a funnel useful for the procedure.

What about draining excess fuel at the end of season? I am mechanically inept so this is all new to me.

[Zenthar]

I went to Sears to see the 305cc today and the salesmen told me the 2yr warranty only covers the parts, not labor. For 200$ extra you get a 3yr warranty that covers both parts and labor. Not sure if his first statement was ******** just to sell me the extended warranty, I will have to double-check.

[Carc]

What about draining excess fuel at the end of season? I am mechanically inept so this is all new to me.


Put some fuel stabilizer in the gas and leave it! I know the manual probably says drain it out of the tank and run it through the carb, but I heard if there isn't any fuel in the carb the gaskets will dry up over the years. I always leave fuel in. Just make sure you put in fuel stabilizer from Canadian Tire or any small engine place.

Anybody else have a suggestion?

[axelmazda]

I went to Sears to see the 305cc today and the salesmen told me the 2yr warranty only covers the parts, not labor. For 200$ extra you get a 3yr warranty that covers both parts and labor. Not sure if his first statement was ******** just to sell me the extended warranty, I will have to double-check.


its true that you pay around 200 and they come to your home and fix it for you during the extended warranty, and if you dont use the warranty they either refund you the money back minus the taxes or put it on a gift card ( not sure about gift card), but I know for a fact that they give back the money minus tax, I got a call few days ago, Iam still thinking about it.



What about draining excess fuel at the end of season? I am mechanically inept so this is all new to me.

I was warned against "fiddling" with the fuel line, it says in the manual to just let it run dry which I dont suggest since IMO that can damage the engine in the long run, what I do with my other power eqipment is just put a small clean hose in it and suck the fuel out ( the redneck way).


Put some fuel stabilizer in the gas and leave it! I know the manual probably says drain it out of the tank and run it through the carb, but I heard if there isn't any fuel in the carb the gaskets will dry up over the years. I always leave fuel in. Just make sure you put in fuel stabilizer from Canadian Tire or any small engine place.

Anybody else have a suggestion?

I got my fuel Stabilizer today at Canadian tire, I looked at 3 different ones and they all say that its good for 4-6 months so I think draining the fuel out out is a better idea if the blowers going to sit for over 4-6 months.

[Zenthar]

its true.... you pay around 200 and they come to your home and fix it for you, and if you dont use the warranty they either refund you the money back minus the taxes or put it on a gift card ( not sure about gift card), but I know for a fact that they give back the money minus tax, I got a call few days ago, Iam still thinking about it.Yeah, that is the thing that has me slightly biased toward the Sears model over the HD Ariens. Since I don't own a trailer or even have a hitch on my car (a Yaris), having to bring the snowblower to a shop could be a bit troublesome (I can find people to lend me their's, but it's still hoops to jump through). So it ends-up being 1119$ for a ~250cc Ariens that I have to move myself to service or 1200$ for the ~300 cc Craftsman for which a technician will come if needed and I could get 200$ back if never used (which could be a good thing).

[sbarro]

Yeah, that is the thing that has me slightly biased toward the Sears model over the HD Ariens. Since I don't own a trailer or even have a hitch on my car (a Yaris), having to bring the snowblower to a shop could be a bit troublesome (I can find people to lend me their's, but it's still hoops to jump through). So it ends-up being 1119$ for a ~250cc Ariens that I have to move myself to service or 1200$ for the ~300 cc Craftsman for which a technician will come if needed and I could get 200$ back if never used (which could be a good thing).

I've been trying to find something in writing regarding that extended warranty as I got slightly different responses from different Sears people.
The nice lady trying to sell me that warranty mentioned the refund if the service was never used, and only in the form of a gift card for the amount you paid for it, with a few caveats; that the purchase the card was to be used for must be at least twice the value of that card and that there was a (short) expiry on it.
The CSR at the Tools dept said essentially the same thing, that the value of the goods must be twice the card value, but had no expiry date,

Also, when would that warranty be deemed to kick in, as there is a manufacturers warranty running concurrently. I.e. if I drop off the snow blower to their repair depot would that extra warranty be considered to be "used"?

[axelmazda]

I've been trying to find something in writing regarding that extended warranty as I got slightly different responses from different Sears people.
The nice lady trying to sell me that warranty mentioned the refund if the service was never used, and only in the form of a gift card for the amount you paid for it, with a few caveats; that the purchase the card was to be used for must be at least twice the value of that card and that there was a (short) expiry on it.
The CSR at the Tools dept said essentially the same thing, that the value of the goods must be twice the card value, but had no expiry date,

Also, when would that warranty be deemed to kick in, as there is a manufacturers warranty running concurrently. I.e. if I drop off the snow blower to their repair depot would that extra warranty be considered to be "used"?


LOL I hope your wrong, but if your not than this warranty is as good as a rip off as warranties come.

[sbarro]

I went to Sears to see the 305cc today and the salesmen told me the 2yr warranty only covers the parts, not labor. For 200$ extra you get a 3yr warranty that covers both parts and labor. Not sure if his first statement was ******** just to sell me the extended warranty, I will have to double-check.

That salesguy was full of BS. The included warranty does cover parts and labour- check your manual, it's all in there.
Only thing is you have to drag the machine over to their service depot to have it repaired.

[axelmazda]

That salesguy was full of BS. The included warranty does cover parts and labour- check your manual, it's all in there.
Only thing is you have to drag the machine over to their service depot to have it repaired.

+1, in the manual it says your responsible for the transporting the machine.


Sears Canada Inc will at its sole option, repair or replace and product or component which fail in normal use. Such repairs or replacments will be made at no charge to the customer for parts or labor provided that the customer shall be responsible for any transportation cost.

[sbarro]

Put some fuel stabilizer in the gas and leave it! I know the manual probably says drain it out of the tank and run it through the carb, but I heard if there isn't any fuel in the carb the gaskets will dry up over the years. I always leave fuel in. Just make sure you put in fuel stabilizer from Canadian Tire or any small engine place.

Anybody else have a suggestion?

If storing it for the season, absolutely drain whatever fuel you can and then run the engine dry.
Otherwise gas left in the engine evaporates and leaves behind a residue of "varnish" that will coat and plug up everything it touches. That's VERY bad news for a Carburetor and its tiny Jets and passages.

After running it dry, pour a couple of teaspoons of engine oil or ATF inside the spark plug hole and slowly pull the starter cord a few times. The oil will coat the insides and keep it from corrosion.

P.S. the Gaskets "drying up" may have been true at one time, I don't know. But certainly not true with todays gasket materials, they will not shrink, dry up or rot.

[Zenthar]

That salesguy was full of BS. The included warranty does cover parts and labour- check your manual, it's all in there.
Only thing is you have to drag the machine over to their service depot to have it repaired.He might have been "playing with words" then, he might have given me the cost if the technician has to come home (which was 100$ + 80$/hr). But the thing about having to spend 400$ to "get" the 200$, that is kind of a downer. I will go see them back and ask for additional details.

[cavuu]

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-277cc-dual-stage-snow-thrower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TE599


Does anyone have any opinion of this model, this poor Aussie has had it with shoveling driveways for 2 years and wants the easy way out.

I bought this one http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-208cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AM53TE599 for $854 tax in and delivered to Sears store when they had their no-tax sale. It appears to be exactally the same as you were looking at except for a 208cc engine. My opinion is before using it for real (no snow) is that it appears to be well built, has much larger tires that the Sno-Tek and the power steering works well. It also has the hand warmers and head light. Took about 30 minutes to assemble.

When I was at CTC I noticed that the Sears looks the same as the $1099 Troy Built.

The box is 32" high but if you cut the top off it can be reduced to 29" so will fit in the back of most SUV's or small wagons.

[axelmazda]

I bought this one http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-24-208cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AM53TE599 for $854 tax in and delivered to Sears store when they had their no-tax sale. It appears to be exactally the same as you were looking at except for a 208cc engine. My opinion is before using it for real (no snow) is that it appears to be well built, has much larger tires that the Sno-Tek and the power steering works well. It also has the hand warmers and head light. Took about 30 minutes to assemble.

When I was at CTC I noticed that the Sears looks the same as the $1099 Troy Built.

The box is 32" high but if you cut the top off it can be reduced to 29" so will fit in the back of most SUV's or small wagons.


The MTD 277cc products are 99% the same, just different badging

[uman]

I spoke to a sales guy at the local HD over the weekend about snow blowers. The guy suggested I wait until next week and buy the Ariens 24" snow blower for $749. It is on sale for $999 but is supposed to be further discounted next week. He said they are receiving more stock in anticipation of the demand for these blowers at $749. I'm not sure how true this is but had I not bought the $629, Craftsman deal of a couple of weeks ago, I'd have gone for the Ariens.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24-2-stage-sno-thro-snow-thrower/918483

[elnady]

I went to Sears to see the 305cc today and the salesmen told me the 2yr warranty only covers the parts, not labor. For 200$ extra you get a 3yr warranty that covers both parts and labor. Not sure if his first statement was ******** just to sell me the extended warranty, I will have to double-check.

I ended up buying the extended warranty ($200+taxes, plus since it took them about 30 minuted to do it I got a $25 gift certificate), I did think about it but you know what, to take couple of hours of your time to get this 200+lbs unit into your car, drive to sears, leave it there and then pick it up, will worth more than the $200, also to try to get a yearly tuneup, how much this will cost (asked my engine guy, minimum 1.5hrs @$80/hr = $120),I bought a new blower as mine was getting old, and to get it in shape it needed $400+, so buying a new one was a better option (and I already sold the old one for $380), so right off the back I made $780 that went towards the new machine.

I have no intention in getting the money back as what they offer is total BS, I will have them do a tuneup every year, replace the scraper bar once a year, complain about the belt and have it changed at least once, etc. basically it's a "use it or lose it" and they bit that most people will lose it, just use it to keep your machine in top shape and you end up a winner!

[kpsxtyone]

Hi RFDers,

I am in the market of upgrading my 10 yr old canadian tire snow blower. I will be giving it away to a family member with a single car driveway. I am considering the deal from sears

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-305cc-dual-stage-snowblower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696101
or
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24-2-stage-sno-thro-snow-thrower/918483
or
http://www.walmart.ca/canada-estore/catalog/productdetailpagecontainer.jsp?skuId=10033720&_DARGS=/canada-estore/common/slapStoreResultOverlay.jsp#


I have a 2 car wide and can fit 4 cars. Is this too much? or should i go with a 24" wide. I saw this due to its discounted price. For the walmart it was priced at 998 and do have a 20% discount. If i go with Sears one i will probably do the monthly payment plan. I do plan to keep the blower for more than 10 years. My driveway gets alot of snow drifts during bad snow days.

[htc***]

If storing it for the season, absolutely drain whatever fuel you can and then run the engine dry.
Otherwise gas left in the engine evaporates and leaves behind a residue of "varnish" that will coat and plug up everything it touches. That's VERY bad news for a Carburetor and its tiny Jets and passages.

After running it dry, pour a couple of teaspoons of engine oil or ATF inside the spark plug hole and slowly pull the starter cord a few times. The oil will coat the insides and keep it from corrosion.

P.S. the Gaskets "drying up" may have been true at one time, I don't know. But certainly not true with todays gasket materials, they will not shrink, dry up or rot.


Have you do that with your lawnmower?

[elnady]

Have you do that with your lawnmower?

Tips from a guys with 2 motorcycles, 2 snowmobile, a vintage car, generator, lawnmower and a new snowblower... at the end of the season before storage:

1- Change oil (oil becomes acidic, fresh oil before storage)
2- Seafoam is the best fuel stabilizer out there, mix it with fresh gas, fill the tank to the rim (reason,, some old gas tanks can rust), run the machine for 15 minutes and then store.
3- For LONG extended storage, fog the engine.
4- (if you can) lift the tires off the ground so you will not get flat spots and it will considerably extend the life of your tires.

[pearlnails]

Proud owner of Toro Power Max 726 OE 2-Stage Snow Blower - 26 Inch ; model 38614

this is our very first snow blower. we had to get one this time, huge drive way (10 car) and long walk path. I didn't know what to do, so i dug into various blog, I found this one very informative, helpful and interesting. i read the entire discussion and narrowed the list to Toro and Ariens Deluxe 28in.

then came to the price and in stock. Unfortunately HD did not have Ariens in stock @ the Regina location. so we were left with Toro. as you all suggested i looked for coupons, promotions and lower price. didn't find any online. so I eamiled few Toro dealers and asked their prices for this model.

got an email from a Toronto dealer, quoted regular price was $999.99. HD was selling for $1099. the guy also specified that they have it in stock. perfect!!! :facepalm:

took it to the HD and as usual they said our is the lowest price and we were laughing :D (of course inside). gave them the email (I made sure i took a screen shot of the email just in case) and they were little taken back, but gave us no hassle. took them only few minutes. we walked out with Toro Power Max for $900 + 10% tax.

Thanks guys. I guess my time reading and researching paid off. :facepalm:

[pacman]

Has anyone found a place that sells 12 ounce bottles of SA5W30 oil for snowblowers?

My Toro (418 ZR) takes exactly 12 ounces of oil. Even slightly too much and the oil is over the dipstick. I had problems last time using the standard 20 oz oil bottle, as it was too easy to fill up too much (the oil fill hole is hard to get to, and it's really easy to overfill it). If I could find small bottles, it would be easy just to dump the entire bottle in and not have to worry about overfilling and then having to drain some, which is a real hassle.

Thanks
James

[axelmazda]

I ended up buying the extended warranty ($200+taxes, plus since it took them about 30 minuted to do it I got a $25 gift certificate), I did think about it but you know what, to take couple of hours of your time to get this 200+lbs unit into your car, drive to sears, leave it there and then pick it up, will worth more than the $200, also to try to get a yearly tuneup, how much this will cost (asked my engine guy, minimum 1.5hrs @$80/hr = $120),I bought a new blower as mine was getting old, and to get it in shape it needed $400+, so buying a new one was a better option (and I already sold the old one for $380), so right off the back I made $780 that went towards the new machine.

I have no intention in getting the money back as what they offer is total BS, I will have them do a tuneup every year, replace the scraper bar once a year, complain about the belt and have it changed at least once, etc. basically it's a "use it or lose it" and they bit that most people will lose it, just use it to keep your machine in top shape and you end up a winner!

I like your mentality , its either rape them or they will rape you 3x over lol

[Zenthar]

I like your mentality , its either rape them or they will rape you 3x over lolI also like the idea of having them do the maintenance for it over the 3 years :P

[marunio]

I am in a similar predicament - selecting between a big and heavy one from Sears and Ariens compact 24" (btw it will be for $750 starting Friday at HD).
Would prefer smaller machine but afraid of struggling with EOD.
Never had snow blower before.
Any suggestions appreciated.
M


Hi RFDers,

I am in the market of upgrading my 10 yr old canadian tire snow blower. I will be giving it away to a family member with a single car driveway. I am considering the deal from sears

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-305cc-dual-stage-snowblower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696101
or
http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24-2-stage-sno-thro-snow-thrower/918483
or
http://www.walmart.ca/canada-estore/catalog/productdetailpagecontainer.jsp?skuId=10033720&_DARGS=/canada-estore/common/slapStoreResultOverlay.jsp#


I have a 2 car wide and can fit 4 cars. Is this too much? or should i go with a 24" wide. I saw this due to its discounted price. For the walmart it was priced at 998 and do have a 20% discount. If i go with Sears one i will probably do the monthly payment plan. I do plan to keep the blower for more than 10 years. My driveway gets alot of snow drifts during bad snow days.

[sczwik]

Has anyone found a place that sells 12 ounce bottles of SA5W30 oil for snowblowers?

My Toro (418 ZR) takes exactly 12 ounces of oil. Even slightly too much and the oil is over the dipstick. I had problems last time using the standard 20 oz oil bottle, as it was too easy to fill up too much (the oil fill hole is hard to get to, and it's really easy to overfill it). If I could find small bottles, it would be easy just to dump the entire bottle in and not have to worry about overfilling and then having to drain some, which is a real hassle.

Thanks
James

I use a measuring cup to put the oil in.
http://www.anchorhocking.com/images/product_images/product%20item%20main&thumbs/prep/MeasuringCup32oz55178OL_Main.jpg

As for adding the oil you can use a oil funnel with a small hose on the end of it or buy a transmission funnel.

[axelmazda]

I am in a similar predicament - selecting between a big and heavy one from Sears and Ariens compact 24" (btw it will be for $750 starting Friday at HD).
Would prefer smaller machine but afraid of struggling with EOD.
Never had snow blower before.
Any suggestions appreciated.
M

go with the Ariens, its leaps and bounds better than the craftsman in terms of frame and engine

[subzero5150]

Can you share the email you got from the Toronto dealer for the Toro, or at least a name of the dealer. I was looking at that same model and I missed out on the 15% off price match with Rona a couple weeks ago.


Proud owner of Toro Power Max 726 OE 2-Stage Snow Blower - 26 Inch ; model 38614

this is our very first snow blower. we had to get one this time, huge drive way (10 car) and long walk path. I didn't know what to do, so i dug into various blog, I found this one very informative, helpful and interesting. i read the entire discussion and narrowed the list to Toro and Ariens Deluxe 28in.

then came to the price and in stock. Unfortunately HD did not have Ariens in stock @ the Regina location. so we were left with Toro. as you all suggested i looked for coupons, promotions and lower price. didn't find any online. so I eamiled few Toro dealers and asked their prices for this model.

got an email from a Toronto dealer, quoted regular price was $999.99. HD was selling for $1099. the guy also specified that they have it in stock. perfect!!! :facepalm:

took it to the HD and as usual they said our is the lowest price and we were laughing :D (of course inside). gave them the email (I made sure i took a screen shot of the email just in case) and they were little taken back, but gave us no hassle. took them only few minutes. we walked out with Toro Power Max for $900 + 10% tax.

Thanks guys. I guess my time reading and researching paid off. :facepalm:

[pearlnails]

i'm not sure what happened to my previous post. here is the email i received. hope they want mind!!:cheesygri


Thank you for your inquiry regarding our Toro Snowblowers Advertisement. At Kooy Brothers we carry the complete line of single stage and two stage Toro Snowblowers, and each machine comes professionally assembled, fully fueled, and ready to go. If it snows tonight we’ve got you covered.


“The Kooy Difference:”



Outstanding service & knowledgeable staff
A vast array of parts
Professional assembly free of charge
A fully fueled up and tested product


The model 38589 you were inquiring about is the 2010 model. That is going for $789.95 and we have it in stock as well.



Single Stage Snowblower Line Two Stage Snowblower Line



Model Price Model Price

38272 $399.99 38608 $899.99

38282 $449.99 38614 $999.99

38451 $559.99 38624W $1349.99

38452 $629.99 38634 $1549.99

38453 $619.99 38644 $1799.99

38454 $729.99 38654 $1999.99

38458 $729.99

38459 $839.99


We currently have all of the single stage and two stage models in stock and on display in our showroom. I would encourage you to stop by and check them out in person, and when you do stop by ask for myself, Joel VanAndel. We can then go over what sort of specifications you are looking for and find the right model best suited for your needs. Have a great day.


Kooy Brothers Equipment Ltd.
1919 Wilson Avenue, Toronto, ON. M9M-1A9
Office Phone: (416) 242-3513 ext.135 * Cell: 647 444 3933
Office Fax: 416-242-6710
www.kooybros.com

[bigEfromGP]

A co worker won a Toro Power Clear 621QZE Single Stage 21 inch snow blower in a raffle (link to snowblower here (http://http://www.homedepot.ca/product/power-clear-621qze-single-stage-snow-blower-21-inch/960185)) and has now offered it to me for $700. Home Depot has it as $839 reg ($799 currently). This is the 4 cycle 163cc engine.

I have a 2 car driveway, and wouldn't be using the blower for much more than that. Is $700 a fair price for this?

EDIT:

I failed to mention that the unit is brand new in box, and has full warranty still.

[bubba_gump]

Not sure if this is appropriate to post here but I wanted to get your opinions.

Sears in the US has a black friday sale for Craftsman 21" 179cc* Single-stage Snow Thrower w/ Electric Start.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07188780000P?i_cntr=1321936656237

regular price is $596 but Black friday sale is $399.99
http://www.2011blackfridayads.com/sears/sears-doorbusters-17.jpg (Link to Sears Black Friday Ad)

Do you guys think it's worth it to drive down?

[sanjuo]

Not sure if this is appropriate to post here but I wanted to get your opinions.

Sears in the US has a black friday sale for Craftsman 21" 179cc* Single-stage Snow Thrower w/ Electric Start.
http://www.sears.com/shc/s/p_10153_12605_07188780000P?i_cntr=1321936656237

regular price is $596 but Black friday sale is $399.99
http://www.2011blackfridayads.com/sears/sears-doorbusters-17.jpg (Link to Sears Black Friday Ad)

Do you guys think it's worth it to drive down?

Today I got this The Craftsman 26 277CC at 50% off which is better deal than blackfriday one...;)

[kpsxtyone]

Today I got this The Craftsman 26 277CC at 50% off which is better deal than blackfriday one...;)

link please. this might be a better option.

[axelmazda]

link please. this might be a better option.

he/she is probebly talking about the deal that was 2 weeks ago , it was 1299 and went down to 649 now its 949.99

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-277cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TF599

[bubba_gump]

he/she is probebly talking about the deal that was 2 weeks ago , it was 1299 and went down to 649 now its 949.99

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-26-277cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000749275-31AH54TF599

Thanks for the tips guys. Will avoid US Black Friday deals then.

[marksmithy69]

This has probably already been mentioned, but this 24" Ariens is going on sale this weekend for $749. It is a 3 day sale, starting the 25th until the 27th.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24-2-stage-sno-thro-snow-thrower/918483

[cheaper_than_cheap]

This has probably already been mentioned, but this 24" Ariens is going on sale this weekend for $749. It is a 3 day sale, starting the 25th until the 27th.

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24-2-stage-sno-thro-snow-thrower/918483
On their specs page it says it has a 205 hp engine. I bet that throws pretty far. :D

But seriously... do you know if this is going to be chain wide?

[George777]

On their specs page it says it has a 205 hp engine. I bet that throws pretty far. :D

But seriously... do you know if this is going to be chain wide?

It's not the size that matters but how you use it. :)


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPlp9A4jjTk


This one looks to be a 24" with a 205 based on the video description.

Impeller, gear case, engine setup...lots of variables.

[cheaper_than_cheap]

This one looks to be a 24" with a 205 based on the video description.

Impeller, gear case, engine setup...lots of variables.
Yep. I think they have chimpanzees entering the specs on the HD site. I've seen them with things like 205 in, 205 lb, 205 cm etc. It's rare when they get it right (205 cc in this case).

That model at $750 would be good for my friend I think. No remote diff unlock from what I can tell, but otherwise looks good. Since it's only 177 lb it might not be too bad to muscle around in tight turns with the diff locked. I have an Ariens ST30LE myself and at 250 lb it's nice to have the diff unlock trigger. I'm just hoping they have stock at that price here in Prince George.

[axelmazda]

On their specs page it says it has a 205 hp engine. I bet that throws pretty far. :D

But seriously... do you know if this is going to be chain wide?

you mean 205cc lol

[kpsxtyone]

go with the Ariens, its leaps and bounds better than the craftsman in terms of frame and engine

I checked out the walmart one and it did not look too good.

I still have to check the craftsman version. I did notice it was a 305 CC vs 205 cc from ariens both are B&G motor. Would the 305 be a better motor than the 205?

[PJJSPA]

Proud owner of Toro Power Max 726 OE 2-Stage Snow Blower - 26 Inch ; model 38614

this is our very first snow blower. we had to get one this time, huge drive way (10 car) and long walk path. I didn't know what to do, so i dug into various blog, I found this one very informative, helpful and interesting. i read the entire discussion and narrowed the list to Toro and Ariens Deluxe 28in.

then came to the price and in stock. Unfortunately HD did not have Ariens in stock @ the Regina location. so we were left with Toro. as you all suggested i looked for coupons, promotions and lower price. didn't find any online. so I eamiled few Toro dealers and asked their prices for this model.

got an email from a Toronto dealer, quoted regular price was $999.99. HD was selling for $1099. the guy also specified that they have it in stock. perfect!!! :facepalm:

took it to the HD and as usual they said our is the lowest price and we were laughing :D (of course inside). gave them the email (I made sure i took a screen shot of the email just in case) and they were little taken back, but gave us no hassle. took them only few minutes. we walked out with Toro Power Max for $900 + 10% tax.

Thanks guys. I guess my time reading and researching paid off. :facepalm:

I also had an email from Kooy and asked HD ($1,099) in Barrie to price-match it (minus 10% extra). All was going well until the section manager came out and said that it had to be a 'local' store to price-match and the best he could do was match the $999 but not better it by the 10%. I said define 'local' because it doesn't give a geographical definition on the website. We then argued for a bit before I asked to get the store manager involved. The store manager eventually agreed that 'local' wasn't defined and asked to meet me halfway at $950. I hung in and promised to never pester them again, so they finally gave up and sold me it at $899.

[kpsxtyone]

I also had an email from Kooy and asked HD ($1,099) in Barrie to price-match it (minus 10% extra). All was going well until the section manager came out and said that it had to be a 'local' store to price-match and the best he could do was match the $999 but not better it by the 10%. I said define 'local' because it doesn't give a geographical definition on the website. We then argued for a bit before I asked to get the store manager involved. The store manager eventually agreed that 'local' wasn't defined and asked to meet me halfway at $950. I hung in and promised to never pester them again, so they finally gave up and sold me it at $899.

This is looking to be a good option and should last a long time based on design and reputation.

[cheaper_than_cheap]

But seriously... do you know if this is going to be chain wide?
Answering my own question... I was in the local HD and they had signs up promoting this item (and many other sale items) starting Friday. And it's in the upcoming flyer. So yes it looks to be chain wide.

[simons2]

AAAAAAARGHHHH. I have been following this thread and finally decided to buy the "in warehouse" 250cc Poulan snow thrower at Costco for $899. I figure that if it does go on coupon, it will be in the next 4 weeks so can get a price adjustment. Spent about 1 hour putting it together tonight, filled tank with gas about half way only (thankfully) and had just plugged in the power start cord when I though the gasoline smell was a bit strong......thankfully did not push the starter button as I notice gas pouring out of the engine area. VERY FRUSTRATED. Also pretty glad I did not set myself on fire. Usually a big Costco fan, but now have to borrow a truck again, bring it back (hopefully more gas will not leak out) and get my money back, but nothing for the time and hassle. I suppose any manufacturer can have a defective unit, but now wary of buying another of the same. That said, everything else felt pretty solid, not that I was able to run the unit. Anyone have similar problems? Wish HD in Edmonton would price match the Ottawa store on the Ariens, but no luck. Maybe ‘ll wait for the HD sale mentioned earlier on the 24”?

[hempopotamus]

I checked out the walmart one and it did not look too good.

I still have to check the craftsman version. I did notice it was a 305 CC vs 205 cc from ariens both are B&G motor. Would the 305 be a better motor than the 205?

Yes the 305cc B&S (Briggs & Stratton not B&G) would be a stronger motor than the 205. it has 100cc more displacement. The Craftsman with this 305 is made by AYP (Husqrvana) so I wouldn't say that the Ariens is leaps and bounds ahead as stated by axelmazda

[George777]

Yep. I think they have chimpanzees entering the specs on the HD site. I've seen them with things like 205 in, 205 lb, 205 cm etc. It's rare when they get it right (205 cc in this case).

That model at $750 would be good for my friend I think. No remote diff unlock from what I can tell, but otherwise looks good. Since it's only 177 lb it might not be too bad to muscle around in tight turns with the diff locked. I have an Ariens ST30LE myself and at 250 lb it's nice to have the diff unlock trigger. I'm just hoping they have stock at that price here in Prince George.

I'm slow...I didn't notice the "hp" next to the 205. Could probably eat a car with one of those.

[Trexim]

I'm slow...I didn't notice the "hp" next to the 205. Could probably eat a car with one of those.

Or rip your arms off the shoulders. :cry:

[Gotoff]

http://www.amazon.com/WORX-WG650-18-Inch-Electric-Thrower/dp/B003ZHVDHE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

how good is the above snow blower, would it be good enough for scarborough

and is it worth it for 299 + tax but free shipping?


Thanks!!

[Mystix]

AAAAAAARGHHHH. I have been following this thread and finally decided to buy the "in warehouse" 250cc Poulan snow thrower at Costco for $899. I figure that if it does go on coupon, it will be in the next 4 weeks so can get a price adjustment. Spent about 1 hour putting it together tonight, filled tank with gas about half way only (thankfully) and had just plugged in the power start cord when I though the gasoline smell was a bit strong......thankfully did not push the starter button as I notice gas pouring out of the engine area. VERY FRUSTRATED. Also pretty glad I did not set myself on fire. Usually a big Costco fan, but now have to borrow a truck again, bring it back (hopefully more gas will not leak out) and get my money back, but nothing for the time and hassle. I suppose any manufacturer can have a defective unit, but now wary of buying another of the same. That said, everything else felt pretty solid, not that I was able to run the unit. Anyone have similar problems? Wish HD in Edmonton would price match the Ottawa store on the Ariens, but no luck. Maybe ‘ll wait for the HD sale mentioned earlier on the 24”?

Every manufacture will have a defective unit or two. Last year I bought an Ariens 24" compact and I filled it up with gas and it started right up! I then noticed that gas was leaking from the tank if I had my fuel valve opened. I frantically try to search for another HD that had stock as they were clearing them out in spring. Luckily I was able to locate one and everything has been smooth sailing since.

[NotMoneyGuy]

Every manufacture will have a defective unit or two. Last year I bought an Ariens 24" compact and I filled it up with gas and it started right up! I then noticed that gas was leaking from the tank if I had my fuel valve opened. I frantically try to search for another HD that had stock as they were clearing them out in spring. Luckily I was able to locate one and everything has been smooth sailing since.

At least Ariens has the brains or common sense to install fuel valves as standard equipment as opposed to some manufacturers. (Kudos to all the owners of such without that take it upon themselves to install these valves to preserve and protect what they hold near and dear.)

[axelmazda]

At least Ariens has the brains or common sense to install fuel valves as standard equipment as opposed to some manufacturers. (Kudos to all the owners of such without that take it upon themselves to install these valves to preserve and protect what they hold near and dear.)

only a few bucks for consumers for the valve but to big companies its only a few cents since its multiplied by tens of thousands of units, but greed is greed and they still cheap out on us.

[wilsonlam97]

http://www.amazon.com/WORX-WG650-18-Inch-Electric-Thrower/dp/B003ZHVDHE/ref=cm_cr_pr_product_top

how good is the above snow blower, would it be good enough for scarborough

and is it worth it for 299 + tax but free shipping?


Thanks!!
You'll be screwed once the city snow plows shovel all the snow to your curb. That electric machine would jam picking that snow out. Everything else would be fine though. Depends on how much you want to spend. If you got a small budget then a electric snowblower is fine for Toronto's small snow (in comparison to Sudbury/Ottawa)

Gas engines are a lot of hassle to maintain as well so the trade off for not being able to plow that curb snow is not bad. Just shovel the rest.

[benyl]

The 27" 305 c.c Craftsman is awesome. I picked one up a few days ago and will get price matched this weekend. Its actually made by Huscavarna. For 1000$ dollars this is easily the best deal I could find anywhere, if you are willing to spend that much. But the difference between a 700$ sno-tek and this thing is huge. Power steering, 16" wheels and large B&S motor. All metal chute, which I prefer and is recommended by most techs.

FYI, I think that The 27" 249 cc is also made by AYP. I picked up mine today. Before I did, I compared the two on the showroom floor and they were identical save for the engine and tire width. You can definetly tell the difference between the AYP built machines and the rest.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100

If I didn't get the 249cc one for less than $900, I would have swapped for the 305 cc at the current price.

[andsoitgoes]

Im struggling here.

I'm in Vancouver, meaning we get next to no snow. However we've had some hectic snowfalls over the past few years, and Im thinking this year is going to be bad.

Being here, though, I needn't purchase anything fancy. I need simple, basic, cheap cheap. I'm currently waiting for hip replace,ent surgery so my wife will be doing everything. Electric is the easiest... So, help? Any tips for a sub $250ish model, pref under 200? Anyone want to upgrade in the area, I'll take your old one off your hands :)

[oneowl]

FYI, I think that The 27" 249 cc is also made by AYP. I picked up mine today. Before I did, I compared the two on the showroom floor and they were identical save for the engine and tire width. You can definetly tell the difference between the AYP built machines and the rest.

http://www.sears.ca/product/craftsman-md-27-249cc-dual-stage-snow-blower-with-ez-steer/671-000088716-1696100

If I didn't get the 249cc one for less than $900, I would have swapped for the 305 cc at the current price.

Its a Husqy. You should be happy with your purchase.

[axelmazda]

Im struggling here.

I'm in Vancouver, meaning we get next to no snow. However we've had some hectic snowfalls over the past few years, and Im thinking this year is going to be bad.

Being here, though, I needn't purchase anything fancy. I need simple, basic, cheap cheap. I'm currently waiting for hip replace,ent surgery so my wife will be doing everything. Electric is the easiest... So, help? Any tips for a sub $250ish model, pref under 200? Anyone want to upgrade in the area, I'll take your old one off your hands :)


something cheap and under 200 is not going to do much for you in " hectic snowfalls" might as well not get a snowblower cause you will be wasting your money for nothing, if you want something for heavy snow and think you will use it 1-5 times just get a twin stage snowblower, they basically start at 450+ at HD for last years models which is plenty good for your use.

[CHIA]

something cheap and under 200 is not going to do much for you in " hectic snowfalls" might as well not get a snowblower cause you will be wasting your money for nothing, if you want something for heavy snow and think you will use it 1-5 times just get a twin stage snowblower, they basically start at 450+ at HD for last years models which is plenty good for your use.

Disagree, get a single stage for around the same price, more than enough for the typical snow we get, much smaller, lighter, and in many cases, faster.

[axelmazda]

Disagree, get a single stage for around the same price, more than enough for the typical snow we get, much smaller, lighter, and in many cases, faster.

O.P mentions that hes looking for a snow blower for heavy snow, he also mentions how they have very little snow, single stage is next to useless in deep wet snow. many videos on youtube you can check as well.

Single stage is great for light snow only, just to be on the safe side get a cheap 2 stage, that way on that 1-2 heavy snow fall days your prepared.



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FI-AFIA56yo&feature=results_main&playnext=1&list=PL0A207CB130B9B0AA

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=naGurYJwoqo

[Quanger]

Had 5cm of snow the other day, ran the sno-tek 24 for the first time and it performed well. 2 prime, 1 pull and started right away. One thing I do notice is that the machine slowly moves backwards when its on...is anyone else having this problem?

[axelmazda]

Had 5cm of snow the other day, ran the sno-tek 24 for the first time and it performed well. 2 prime, 1 pull and started right away. One thing I do notice is that the machine slowly moves backwards when its on...is anyone else having this problem?

in neutral or drive?

[wilsonlam97]

Had 5cm of snow the other day, ran the sno-tek 24 for the first time and it performed well. 2 prime, 1 pull and started right away. One thing I do notice is that the machine slowly moves backwards when its on...is anyone else having this problem?

Are you in Sudbury?

It's probably the vibration moving the machine. It's fine.

[Quanger]

Had 5cm of snow the other day, ran the sno-tek 24 for the first time and it performed well. 2 prime, 1 pull and started right away. One thing I do notice is that the machine slowly moves backwards when its on...is anyone else having this problem?

It happens in any gear whether fwd or reverse. Im in Ottawa.

[zoomzoom]

Im struggling here.

I'm in Vancouver, meaning we get next to no snow. However we've had some hectic snowfalls over the past few years, and Im thinking this year is going to be bad.

Being here, though, I needn't purchase anything fancy. I need simple, basic, cheap cheap. I'm currently waiting for hip replace,ent surgery so my wife will be doing everything. Electric is the easiest... So, help? Any tips for a sub $250ish model, pref under 200? Anyone want to upgrade in the area, I'll take your old one off your hands :)

You may want to give this electric snow blower (Snow Joe Max) from Costco a try - I don't have any personal experience with it. You will probably be ok with it during heavy snowfall, if you are able to get out ever few hours and make a few passes through your driveway. It was $25 off last week, but it's back to regular price now. It's $200 + Tax and they deliver to your door.

http://www.costco.ca/Browse/Product.aspx?Prodid=10353229&whse=BCCA&Ne=4000000&eCat=BCCA|114|3241|22254&N=4010129&Mo=4&pos=1&No=4&Nr=P_CatalogName:BCCA&cat=22254&Ns=P_Price|1||P_SignDesc1&lang=en-CA&Sp=C&ec=BCCA-EC22125-Cat3241&topnav=#BVRRWidgetID

[axelmazda]

Great deal to be had for the next 3 days

Compact 24" 2-Stage Sno-Thro Snow Thrower On sale for 749.00 regular 999.00

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24-2-stage-sno-thro-snow-thrower/918483

[LOOSEWHEEL]

Slightly out of context for this thread but I thought those looking for a blower may be encouraged by this Kijiji ad.

Link (http://moncton.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-tools-equipment-11HP-29-Snowblower-W0QQAdIdZ332915918)

[CHIA]

O.P mentions that hes looking for a snow blower for heavy snow, he also mentions how they have very little snow, single stage is next to useless in deep wet snow. many videos on youtube you can check as well.

Single stage is great for light snow only, just to be on the safe side get a cheap 2 stage, that way on that 1-2 heavy snow fall days your prepared.




My experience with snow here in Vancouver, is that if you shovel/blow it soon after it falls, a single stage will more than suffice for typical city lots.

If you leave it, and wait until some rain sometimes mixes in, things can change, but if it rains enough, the snow goes away by itself, so moot.

Reality is, it's relatively uncommon for most Vancouverites to have ANY type of snowblower.

[clammydog]

My experience with snow here in Vancouver, is that if you shovel/blow it soon after it falls, a single stage will more than suffice for typical city lots.

If you leave it, and wait until some rain sometimes mixes in, things can change, but if it rains enough, the snow goes away by itself, so moot.

Reality is, it's relatively uncommon for most Vancouverites to have ANY type of snowblower.

True, however you do have the best rain coats in Canada! :)

[Zenthar]

I finally went for the Craftsman 305cc at Sears. Rechecked with them and the 200$ 3yr "service contract" is refundable if not used, but in "gift cards" although there is no minimum purchase necessary to redeem the card (could be a Quebec thing). I decided to go with them partially because of this service contract (can be troublesome for me to get a truck if anything happens) and for the free financing. Moreover, I prefer the console on the Craftsman than on the Ariens 250cc.

Just though I would let people know (someone asked me if I had made my choice).

[timojaak]

Great deal to be had for the next 3 days

Compact 24" 2-Stage Sno-Thro Snow Thrower On sale for 749.00 regular 999.00

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24-2-stage-sno-thro-snow-thrower/918483

If you're interested in one of these, you should grab them while you can. I went into the Kanata (Ottawa West End) Home Depot at 8:00 AM this morning. They had 2 in stock, both pre-built. I took one and as I was pushing it towards the cash, the other one was claimed. I think you'll be lucky if you can find one of these by tomorrow.

[axelmazda]

Slightly out of context for this thread but I thought those looking for a blower may be encouraged by this Kijiji ad.

Link (http://moncton.kijiji.ca/c-buy-and-sell-tools-equipment-11HP-29-Snowblower-W0QQAdIdZ332915918)

great article, i had a great time reading it lol,

[axelmazda]

If you're interested in one of these, you should grab them while you can. I went into the Kanata (Ottawa West End) Home Depot at 8:00 AM this morning. They had 2 in stock, both pre-built. I took one and as I was pushing it towards the cash, the other one was claimed. I think you'll be lucky if you can find one of these by tomorrow.

Theirs more than 40 available within 5-8 km radius of my house in Toronto. great deal though ,

[piwayama]

Great deal to be had for the next 3 days

Compact 24" 2-Stage Sno-Thro Snow Thrower On sale for 749.00 regular 999.00

http://www.homedepot.ca/product/compact-24-2-stage-sno-thro-snow-thrower/918483

I am thinking about buying this Ariens compact 24" snow thrower, as it seems like a great deal and has good reviews.

I actually bought a Briggs & Stratton Single-Stage Snowthrower, 205 CC on sale for 549.99 plus tax at Canadian Tire early October (I was told that I could still return it as it's unopened and unused even after 7 day special warranty for snow-blowers at Canadian Tire)
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/SnowRemoval/Snowthrowers/PRD~0603762P/Briggs+%26+Stratton+Single-Stage+Snowthrower%2C+205+CC.jsp?locale=en

Now, I am wondering if I should get a 2-stage snow blower like Ariens 24" compact after reading this thread. I have a 2-car driveway, do not have a long stretch of sidewalk to shovel. But I want a snow-blower that can replace the daily snow shovelling, as well as handling some heavy snow falls. If the 2-stage snow blower can remove the ice on the sidewalk and driveway, I might switch to the 2-stage. What are your suggestions?

[axelmazda]

I am thinking about buying this Ariens compact 24" snow thrower, as it seems like a great deal and has good reviews.

I actually bought a Briggs & Stratton Single-Stage Snowthrower, 205 CC on sale for 549.99 plus tax at Canadian Tire early October (I was told that I could still return it as it's unopened and unused even after 7 day special warranty for snow-blowers at Canadian Tire)
http://www.canadiantire.ca/AST/browse/2/OutdoorLiving/SnowRemoval/Snowthrowers/PRD~0603762P/Briggs+%26+Stratton+Single-Stage+Snowthrower%2C+205+CC.jsp?locale=en

Now, I am wondering if I should get a 2-stage snow blower like Ariens 24" compact after reading this thread. I have a 2-car driveway, do not have a long stretch of sidewalk to shovel. But I want a snow-blower that can replace the daily snow shovelling, as well as handling some heavy snow falls. If the 2-stage snow blower can remove the ice on the sidewalk and driveway, I might switch to the 2-stage. What are your suggestions?

2 stage wont scrape off the ice from the bottom but it will break the top layer of ice that is on wet snow easily. I would recommmend 2 stage snow blower, even if you get a heavy snowstorm only once or twice like we do in Toronto