The Amazing Race 19

[Madchester]

http://insidetv.ew.com/2011/08/31/amazing-race-cast-survivor-ethan-jenna/

They basically confirmed the Ethan/Jenna rumours floating on the interwebs.

[Madchester]

premieres tonite.

I'll keep my expectations low... its down to how the cast gels as usual.

[xlc_88]

I can't wait to see the double elimination and also the "hazard" playcard. I wonder how the playcard will work? According to Wiki, it is a "penalty that one team will incur right at the starting line and that they will have to complete before checking in at the Pit Stop". So I guess the second last team in the previous leg will get a "hazard"?

[bembol]

I always like seeing Survivors in Amazing Race, that's how I got into this show with Boston Rob & Amber.

Ethan & Jenna right are my favourites.

[Fluid]

In all things success depends on previous preparation and without such previous preparation there is sure to be failure

LOL!!!!

Double elimination sounds interesting next week...

[Pochacco]

I wanted the showgirls to be out ..... just thought we could get rid of them with one of them losing their passport, their passport resurfaces LOL :razz:

[Fluid]

I wanted the showgirls to be out ..... :

No the hot girls must stay til the end!

[biee]

I want the grandparents to stay for sure !!! :)

but so far, i like the snowboard dudes :D

[xlc_88]

I wanted the showgirls to be out ..... just thought we could get rid of them with one of them losing their passport, their passport resurfaces LOL :razz:

I think that whole part was set up by the producers. There's no way those people would know the girls are on the Amazing Race unless the other contestants or the producers told them.

Seems like a promising season so far. I didn't expect to see the Hazard and double elimination so early in the season. Quite exciting! :)

[sonic]

I think that whole part was set up by the producers. There's no way those people would know the girls are on the Amazing Race unless the other contestants or the producers told them.

Seems like a promising season so far. I didn't expect to see the Hazard and double elimination so early in the season. Quite exciting! :)

im sure the camera guy said something when he saw the guys pick up the passport. let the "tweeting" begin...:idea:

[LonesomeDove]

A couple of thoughts on the first episode.

1. There should be no Survivor winners on the contest because they already won $1 million. Lets not be greedy and give someone else a chance to win a million bucks.

2. The Chinese woman who won won the first leg with her partner said, "I feel so Asian", during the Dragon boat race. Huh!!?? What the hell did mean? That she was NOT Asian?!! She is definitely Chinese because she said she went to seven years of Chinese School, yet did not know what the Chinese words say on the billboard. Perhaps she identify herself more with Western people than Chinese people and that is why she has a white boyfriend.

[CavemanJ]

A couple of thoughts on the first episode.

1. There should be no Survivor winners on the contest because they already won $1 million. Lets not be greedy and give someone else a chance to win a million bucks.

2. The Chinese woman who won won the first leg with her partner said, "I feel so Asian", during the Dragon boat race. Huh!!?? What the hell did mean? That she was NOT Asian?!! She is definitely Chinese because she said she went to seven years of Chinese School, yet did not know what the Chinese words say on the billboard. Perhaps she identify herself more with Western people than Chinese people and that is why she has a white boyfriend.

Aka white washed. I wonder if any caucasians gets yellow washed??

[harrypotter]

i like how the vegas girls wanted to show that they are smrt. :facepalm:

[Mr. Robo]

Boo-Yah!!! I loved who got eliminated.

[sonic]

omg...that bro/sis team is annoying as hell, must have hated each other growing up.

[MrDisco]

Boo-Yah!!! I loved who got eliminated.

not me. i wanted them to win :|

oh well my next pick are the old couple. they're just too cute.

[bembol]

Second week, my favorites Ethan & Jenna are out. :(

I lost interest, I don't care who wins.

[Topher]

Second week, my favorites Ethan & Jenna are out. :(

I lost interest, I don't care who wins.

Ethan and Jenna just weren't a strong team. I expected them to last longer than this, but I wouldn't have expected them to go more than a few weeks before being eliminated anyway.

[biee]

I love how Ethna and Jenna say how they're a strong team, ppl see them as a threat etc... and then gets eliminated LOL


gg.

[LonesomeDove]

I am not shedding any tears over Ethan and Jenna being eliminated since they already won a million dollars a piece from Survivor.

As for episode 2, it was an interesting show, given the twist of not donating ALL of the money in their possession costing most of the contestants.

It was really sharp of the snowboarders to see the fine print on the sign. Most deserving of them to win the 2nd leg.

[nufan]

I didn't really expect E & J to do well so wasn't surprised when they were eliminated 2nd week. Did you see their seasons of Survivor? Ethan just got through because he was a nice guy and Jenna got through by taking her clothes off (not that I complained). They both won but are hardly extremely competitive. Also in addition to them both already winning $1m she got another mill when she did Playboy.

[Madchester]

It was obvious flight attendant couple would be eliminated - they got tons of airtime on the first half of the show.

Likewise, with the amount of facetime Ethan/Jenna got compared to the premiere, it wasn't really a surprise either.

That was really by-the-book reality television editing.

[thelefteyeguy]

the twist in the end was stupid.

Phil lets not make this race into a technicality

[xlc_88]

the twist in the end was stupid.

Phil lets not make this race into a technicality

I agree. If more than 50% of the teams make a mistake like that, then it isn't really fair.

And Cindy is getting on my nerves. She knew she was ahead of the pack and then became so melodramatic at the end. And stop with all the Asian stereotypes as well! My God. If you were truly an "Asian", you would have not cried and just completed the last task without any complaining. I personally liked how Ernie handled the entire situation and completed the last task without any complaining.

[Madchester]

the twist in the end was stupid.

Phil lets not make this race into a technicality

The twist was fine... people always complain about racers being held at the mercy of their cabbies. Teams arrived at the Roadblock (and couldn't really make up any position like your usual bungee/rappelling/climbing task) depending on their cabbies on this leg. The twist let them lose/win on their own terms.

[Skip2MyLou]

nooooooooooooooooo!!!
the hot girls are gone!

[MrDisco]

nooooooooooooooooo!!!
the hot girls are gone!

good riddance ;)

[gamer602]

No Clueboxes!!! :) This harkens back to season ONE!

Also, love how cryptic/hard the clues are this season!!!

[Fluid]

good riddance ;)

:(

[YLSF]

No Clueboxes!!! :) This harkens back to season ONE!

Also, love how cryptic/hard the clues are this season!!!

I was thinking the same thing about the clues being harder... But, now I am just thinking that the contestants are STUPID. Take 5 minutes to read the glue and you will figure it out. Funny how they were counting ALL of the statues which weren't even budhas. The range was really silly. The big football guy was super lucky that the guys gave them that clue! Those 2 guys (forget their names) really remind me of the hippy team from previous season. They are my favs so far.

[xlc_88]

I was thinking the same thing about the clues being harder... But, now I am just thinking that the contestants are STUPID. Take 5 minutes to read the glue and you will figure it out. Funny how they were counting ALL of the statues which weren't even budhas. The range was really silly. The big football guy was super lucky that the guys gave them that clue! Those 2 guys (forget their names) really remind me of the hippy team from previous season. They are my favs so far.

+1. I love the surfer dudes too. They seem so care free.

Who else was fascinated by the Borobudur temple? I'm shocked that such a huge temple was just recently rediscovered. Absolutely amazing.

[christov]

as soon as I saw the twins fall behind and it was obvious they would be last, i turned to my wife and said this is going to be non-elimination. There is no way they can eliminate the show girls then the twins in back to back weeks...

sure enough... non-elimination.

anyone else think that that the non-elimination legs are decided once they see who is going to be last?
or are they truly set in stone before the race begins?

[1226]

as soon as I saw the twins fall behind and it was obvious they would be last, i turned to my wife and said this is going to be non-elimination. There is no way they can eliminate the show girls then the twins in back to back weeks...

sure enough... non-elimination.

anyone else think that that the non-elimination legs are decided once they see who is going to be last?
or are they truly set in stone before the race begins?

I think I felt it was going to be non-elim because they brought in the "farewell music" and very final sounding comments from the twins ("great experience, "sorry to have to go", etc.) well before the rest of the teams finished. It felt fake. That and it had been a few episodes since the last non-elim. Then it was confirmed when Phil engaged them in conversation after saying they were last to arrive but without saying they had been eliminated.

[nufan]

as soon as I saw the twins fall behind and it was obvious they would be last, i turned to my wife and said this is going to be non-elimination. There is no way they can eliminate the show girls then the twins in back to back weeks...

sure enough... non-elimination.

anyone else think that that the non-elimination legs are decided once they see who is going to be last?
or are they truly set in stone before the race begins?
I think they decide them on the fly to keep in contestants that they want to. The last to arrive MAY be eliminated has always bugged me, would much prefer each leg to have an elimination.

I see Jenna is not too impressed at how their elimination was portrayed lol:

Anyone watching the program would have assumed -- as we did in last week's "Reality Check" -- that foolishly losing the bright yellow clue cost them dearly.

In truth, they were undone by a cab driver who kept getting lost and repeatedly had to stop for directions. They fell so far behind that briefly losing the clue wasn't even a factor.

http://www.post-gazette.com/pg/11288/1182241-67-0.stm?cmpid=radiotv.xml

[heymikey]

Who else was fascinated by the Borobudur temple? I'm shocked that such a huge temple was just recently rediscovered. Absolutely amazing.
Since when was "about 200 years ago" considered "recently"?

[LonesomeDove]

Is this the first time that the same contestants won three legs in a row? I don't recall this ever happening.

[bembol]

Don't know if I miss Ethan & Jenna but I barely got through the episode.

[Mr. Robo]

Jenna is a biotch. I couldn't stand her on survivor and the fact that she won for doing absolutely nothing.

[1226]

Is this the first time that the same contestants won three legs in a row? I don't recall this ever happening.

Got me curious so I looked it up.

Per Wikipedia:

BJ & Tyler finished 1st on the last 3 legs of TAR9.

Colin & Christie finished 1st 3 times in a row in TAR5 (also 5 out of 6 legs, the other leg being 2nd).

Rob & Amber finished 1st in the first 3 legs of TAR11 ("All-Stars") and then finished last the next leg.

In TAR13, Ken & Tina finished legs 2-4 in 1st and then Nick & Starr won legs 5-8 (4 in a row) and 6 out of the last 7 to win overall.

Meghan & Cheyne won the last 4 legs of TAR15 (and in the last 8 legs never finished worse than 2nd).

Louie & Michael won 3 times in a row in TAR16.

I think that's all of them. So the record is 4 (Nick & Starr and Meghan & Cheyne).

[gamer602]

Pretty Awesome season so far.

Don't miss the clue boxes at all. Hope they stay away for good.

What do you guys think of this season?

[Tornado F2]

I didn't really expect E & J to do well so wasn't surprised when they were eliminated 2nd week. Did you see their seasons of Survivor? Ethan just got through because he was a nice guy and Jenna got through by taking her clothes off (not that I complained). They both won but are hardly extremely competitive. Also in addition to them both already winning $1m she got another mill when she did Playboy.

Is she one who also married a rich sportsman? (NHL/NBA/etc). Probably grabbed yet more money for nothing there too.

[xlc_88]

Since when was "about 200 years ago" considered "recently"?

It is in my books.

I guess I'm more interested in why the temple was abandoned.

Yet another non-elimination episode. :( I wonder what "difficult" task will lie ahead for the twins.

[YLSF]

You would think the contestants would read the rules clearly... why did the team think that they couldn't travel on first class bus. If the rules said "no first class air travel" then I would know that rule. The other teams could have picked up a bunch of time too if they asked about an express bus (money aside). It is interesting because the rules do seem to be a bit different between Amazing Race Australia vs. the american one. I am almost done season 1 of Amazing Race Australia and a team got a penalty for using a first class bus.

Also, I don't like Ernie and Cindy at all. I hope they get elimated. What is with Ernie yelling "you were the worst drive ever" to the taxi. Plus, they were trying to rip off the guy. If the fair was 4500 baht (and they all seemed to be charging around that) then that is about $150 american dollars according to the conversion I just checked... vs. $100 USD that they were offering. Yeah, I am sure they could have negotiated cheaper (in advance) but they didn't.

Also interesting to see the twins not beg for money from locals.

[D-Roc]

It is in my books.

I guess I'm more interested in why the temple was abandoned.

Yet another non-elimination episode. :( I wonder what "difficult" task will lie ahead for the twins.



Huh?? When I watched the episode, Phil said they were eliminated.

[ashgotti]

Huh?? When I watched the episode, Phil said they were eliminated.

He was talking about last week's episode.

[D-Roc]

He was talking about last week's episode.

Posting after Sunday's episode and stating "another non-elimintation..." it seemed he was talking about the most recent one.

[nufan]

Posting after Sunday's episode and stating "another non-elimintation..." it seemed he was talking about the most recent one.
Not that it matters but check the date of his post please.... He was talking about the previous ep which was indeed non elim :facepalm:

[D-Roc]

Not that it matters but check the date of his post please.... He was talking about the previous ep which was indeed non elim :facepalm:

Oct 24th

[1226]

Oct 24th

Um, check again. Oct 22nd.

[nufan]

Oct 24th
http://cdn.styleforum.net/4/4a/4ad90b08_Not-sure-if-serious2.jpeg

[D-Roc]

Um, check again. Oct 22nd.



Umm that is what it showed for me.

[1226]

Umm that is what it showed for me.

This post (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/amazing-race-19-a-1076714/2/#post13648208) shows as Oct 24th for you right now? Keeping in mind the date is above the post, not below?

[jcon]

Also, I don't like Ernie and Cindy at all. I hope they get elimated. What is with Ernie yelling "you were the worst drive ever" to the taxi. Plus, they were trying to rip off the guy. If the fair was 4500 baht (and they all seemed to be charging around that) then that is about $150 american dollars according to the conversion I just checked... vs. $100 USD that they were offering. Yeah, I am sure they could have negotiated cheaper (in advance) but they didn't.

Additionally, they were acting as though the US Dollar should be accepted everywhere, like an international currency. Although, the USD is accepted quite broadly, it is not an international currency and one should still be respectful of local currencies.

They also acted poorly when asked about paying the rightful amount, acting as though they were being screwed. We only saw the edited version, the cab driver never seemed comfortable with accepting the $100US from the couple and was within his rights to ask for more (equivalent to 4500 baht) or demanding payment in baht.

---------

The teaser for the next episode lacked a real controversial angle or outrageous behaviour.

I'm not sure who I want to win at this point - the Surfers probably deserve it the most. Could use a lot less of Jeebus mumbo-jumbo!

[D-Roc]

This post (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/amazing-race-19-a-1076714/2/#post13648208) shows as Oct 24th for you right now? Keeping in mind the date is above the post, not below?

It did. Now it is showing the 23rd.

[LegiT]

It did. Now it is showing the 23rd.

Oct 22nd, 2011 11:36 PM EST, even if it was the 23rd, if you're in Canada, it's still before the last episode.

[Tornado F2]

Additionally, they were acting as though the US Dollar should be accepted everywhere, like an international currency. Although, the USD is accepted quite broadly, it is not an international currency and one should still be respectful of local currencies.

They also acted poorly when asked about paying the rightful amount, acting as though they were being screwed. We only saw the edited version, the cab driver never seemed comfortable with accepting the $100US from the couple and was within his rights to ask for more (equivalent to 4500 baht) or demanding payment in baht.


I don't see how a local taxi ride could cost so much. It seems the inter-city bus and even the boats used earlier were far cheaper than that.

[Tornado F2]

It is in my books.

I guess I'm more interested in why the temple was abandoned.


It was likely covered over in the past when Islam took control of what is now Indonesia, either by Moslems attempting to eliminate local Hinduism or by locals trying to protect their sacred site from invaders. It was likely "rediscovered" when Dutch colonial rule was established.


Also interesting to see the twins not beg for money from locals.

They stayed classy and positive to the end. Shame to see them go.

[YLSF]

I found tonight's episode boring... maybe just because I am tired tonight...

[xlc_88]

I'm surprised no one posted anything since October 30th. I haven't watched last week's episode but I did watch the non-elimination leg.

In other news: Ethan's cancer has returned. Poor guy...I wish him a speedy recovery.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/celebritology/post/ethan-zohn-survivor-winner-battling-cancer-again/2011/11/03/gIQAwrKViM_blog.html

[nufan]

FYI TAR iOS app is free at the moment, not sure if it's just for today, also not sure how much it normally is. Kind of a fun little game if you're a fan of the show :)

[YLSF]

Really NOT liking Cindy. I am hoping old couple takes it all. or surfers

[MrDisco]

Really NOT liking Cindy. I am hoping old couple takes it all. or surfers

I love the old couple. I really hope they win.

[Topher]

I love the old couple. I really hope they win.

ditto.

[Madchester]

I don't see how a local taxi ride could cost so much. It seems the inter-city bus and even the boats used earlier were far cheaper than that.

I just got back from Thailand (incl Bangkok and Phuket)... and the songathew drivers were hosing the racers with their 4500-5000 bhat tabs. Most we paid for any songathew ride was 500 bhat up and down a mountain in Chiang Mai. (Vientaine-Bangkok 12 hr sleeper train is only 760 bhat) Granted, Ernie and Cindy were hosing the driver with their USD/THB conversion.

Bill and Cathi are a revelation for this season. Loved how they lit the fire that eliminated that misogynist prick dad from the show.

[LonesomeDove]

It just amazes me the amount of times people get lost while finding thier next destination. That must be the number one reason teams get eliminated. Like last Sunday with Cindy and her boyfriend, and the father/son team. Both teams were lost but Cindy managed to find the pitstop ahead of the father/son team.

For heavens's sake, ask someone if you are unsure where the next destination is located. The sooner the better.

[xlc_88]

I finally caught up with all the episodes.

I can see why E&C U-turned the B&C but if they used their brains, they should have U-turned the surfer boys because they're the strongest team so far. B&C should also have U-turned the surfer boys.

I want the B&C to win but I can definitely see the final leg as a tight race between E&C and the surfer boys.

[Madchester]

It just amazes me the amount of times people get lost while finding thier next destination.


Just got back from backpacking in SE Asia, and realized most of my friends had no sense of direction. And put them in a foreign environment and they're further clueless... let alone lacking in common sense.

It was surprising the first day or so - but after that I was like ***** it... i'm leading the group and figuring out the directions for everyone.



And if you read the TV Guide interview; Z/L knew they were going the wrong way in Copenhagen... but the city was inundated with rain just before that leg, so many freeways were closed, so they couldn't A) turn around so easily and B) even the directions locals gave them were useless, due to the road closures.

[robattoronto]

Is it on tonite? Can't find in cable tv lineup

[LonesomeDove]

Is it on tonite? Can't find in cable tv lineup

Yes, it is on. CTV showed it earlier at 7:00 pm because they had the American Music Awards at 8:00 pm. CBS showed it at the usual time of 8:00 pm.

[LonesomeDove]

I wonder if Cindy and Ernie will be punished for not having train tickets. They lost their tickets at the train station but got on the train anyway with the rest of the teams. If it as up to me they would be eliminated since it is like cheating. Not only cheating but riding on transit without a valid ticket is illegal in most parts of the world.

[the_fm]

this episode wasn't cool at all. the posing competition.. i threw up a bit in my mouth :facepalm:

[oranr]

this episode wasn't cool at all. the posing competition.. i threw up a bit in my mouth :facepalm:

haha! Ya, it wasn't too pleasing to see them all in their banana hammocks!

[Tornado F2]

haha! Ya, it wasn't too pleasing to see them all in their banana hammocks!

A good reason NOT to watch in HD. :D

At least last week's trailer gave ample warning.

[Tornado F2]

It just amazes me the amount of times people get lost while finding thier next destination. That must be the number one reason teams get eliminated. Like last Sunday with Cindy and her boyfriend, and the father/son team. Both teams were lost but Cindy managed to find the pitstop ahead of the father/son team.

For heavens's sake, ask someone if you are unsure where the next destination is located. The sooner the better.

It's amazing how mouch trouble the father/son repeatedly had navigating short distances. It's obviously much easier to circumnavigate THE ENTIRE PLANET. :-0 (Wonder if they bumped into either Pole en-route? :lol:).

[Madchester]

It's amazing how mouch trouble the father/son repeatedly had navigating short distances. It's obviously much easier to circumnavigate THE ENTIRE PLANET. :-0 (Wonder if they bumped into either Pole en-route? :lol:).

I don't want to defend Z/L again.. but if you read their TV Guide interview, Copahagen was washed out by rain just before teams arrived in the city... so there were dozens of freeway and road closures. (If you re-watch the episode you'll notice a lot of empty lanes, and giant detour/caution stickers placed over road signs) So even when locals gave them directions, it wasn't that useful since said routes were closed off by the rain.




I don't like Bill and Cathi's chances for the next leg.

No sign of them in the previews....

And more importantly, no nighttime shots of their talking heads @ the next pit op. They showed the 4 other teams bundled in their jackets, out in the nightime cold, talking bout Legoland, bodybuilding, etc....

Bill and Cathi's one talking heads moment was shot during the daytime and it wasn't related to any specific task on this leg.

[YLSF]

I don't like Bill and Cathi's chances for the next leg.

No sign of them in the previews....


I was thinking the same thing... Looks like they were really struggling with the task too...

[jcon]

I was thinking the same thing... Looks like they were really struggling with the task too...

That was my comment to my wife as well.

I wonder if it's an elimination leg though? Considering they're continuing on?

Could just be an editing diversion, knowing that we're looking for the surfers or them.

[Topher]

I don't want to defend Z/L again.. but if you read their TV Guide interview, Copahagen was washed out by rain just before teams arrived in the city... so there were dozens of freeway and road closures. (If you re-watch the episode you'll notice a lot of empty lanes, and giant detour/caution stickers placed over road signs) So even when locals gave them directions, it wasn't that useful since said routes were closed off by the rain.
But then all of the other teams would have been in the same situation, too, right? Maybe that one day in particular was really bad, but Z/L regularly made mistakes, whether it be not reading the clue completely, or rushing through something, or not getting good directions, so it was only a matter of time until one of their mistakes caught up with them and caused them to be eliminated.

[Madchester]

^

Ernie and Cindy were first on the Copahagen leg, and started the next leg at 9:01 AM

Jeremy and Sandy were the last team to start this leg at 12:08 PM. Even B/C and the surfers in 2nd and 3rd started a good hour and a half behind E/C.

And remember, all teams (except Marcus/Armani) were held up by the hours of operation at the Copahagen tower the last leg.

Z/L had poor navigation skills - but the 3 hr spread from 1st to 5th, suggest that most teams were severely affected by the road closures.

[Tornado F2]

I don't want to defend Z/L again.. but if you read their TV Guide interview, Copahagen was washed out by rain just before teams arrived in the city... so there were dozens of freeway and road closures. (If you re-watch the episode you'll notice a lot of empty lanes, and giant detour/caution stickers placed over road signs) So even when locals gave them directions, it wasn't that useful since said routes were closed off by the rain.

The TAR curse striking again? :?: At least it was just rain this time and not earthquakes or tsunamis.

They showed the bridge connecting Denmark to Sweden, even though the racers didn't actually use it. Hope it's not going to suffer problems now...

I guess we're lucky that the show has largely ignored Canada, other than a brief drive down the QEW from TO to Lewiston. (The boring stay-at-home season).

[LonesomeDove]

The only team confirmed for the next leg is Ernie and Cindy, because on the preview Phil said they will continue to race. So any penalty (if there was any penalty) from boarding the train without tickets had no effect on their progress.

[jcon]

The only team confirmed for the next leg is Ernie and Cindy, because on the preview Phil said they will continue to race. So any penalty (if there was any penalty) from boarding the train without tickets had no effect on their progress.

The only team not shown in the preview were Bill and Cathi.

[Madchester]

The only team confirmed for the next leg is Ernie and Cindy, because on the preview Phil said they will continue to race. So any penalty (if there was any penalty) from boarding the train without tickets had no effect on their progress.


The only team not shown in the preview were Bill and Cathi.

Huh?

As jcon said, Bill and Cathi were the only team excluded from next week's preview.

Also, we already saw Marcus and Amani checked-in for this leg, and receiving their first clue for the next one.

[LonesomeDove]

Huh?

As jcon said, Bill and Cathi were the only team excluded from next week's preview.

Also, we already saw Marcus and Amani checked-in for this leg, and receiving their first clue for the next one.

Are you talking about the "to be continued" episode that will be shown on Nov. 27. Since we don't know the outcome of this "to be continued" episode, are we sure Bill and Cathi are eliminated? The only thing clear is Phil saying Ernie/Cindy will be racing beyond this 2 part episode. Are you reading too much into this "excluded from preview" thing.

On the other hand, it is hard to believe that Bill/Cathy will survive the bodybuilding test since they got so low scores.

[Madchester]

Are you talking about the "to be continued" episode that will be shown on Nov. 27. Since we don't know the outcome of this "to be continued" episode, are we sure Bill and Cathi are eliminated? The only thing clear is Phil saying Ernie/Cindy will be racing beyond this 2 part episode. Are you reading too much into this "excluded from preview" thing.

You're being facetious right? :confused:

You're telling people not to read too much in the preview - yet you're using Ernie and Cindy' scene in the preview as evidence they made the next leg....:D You can't ignore how:

* We already know Amani and Marcus are still racing - they got a clue from Phil on the finish mat

* We know the 3 other teams (sans Bill and Cathi) are still racing - cuz they're all featured in new tasks for the next leg.





On the other hand, it is hard to believe that Bill/Cathy will survive the bodybuilding test since they got so low scores.


Actually, Bill and Cathi are still racing in the new CBS.com preview:

http://www.cbs.com/cms/files/ar19_marquee_1910_preview.jpg



Lol.. just admit you're wrong... Phil only says "you're still racing" to Ernie/Cindy, but that doesn't discredit footage of the other teams racing on the next leg. :D

[Tornado F2]

The only team not shown in the preview were Bill and Cathi.

Looks like the call was right, even if the use of online resources in addition to the show (by some) was cheating a bit.


http://www.cbs.com/cms/files/ar19_marquee_1910_preview.jpg


Perhaps Bill should have kept the Mustang for the race to Brussels. With his newly-perfected aggressive driving skills it could have been like a scene from Bullitt. :D

http://img301.imageshack.us/img301/6213/bullit.jpg

Then again, if any Belgian civilians had got run over during the high-speed chase it would have been more like Death Race 2000.

[LonesomeDove]

With Bill and Cathi gone there is no one to cheer for besides the snowboarders.

Actually, ANYONE besides Cindy winning is fine with me. Cindy annoys the heck out of me.

[the_fm]

With Bill and Cathi gone there is no one to cheer for besides the snowboarders.

Actually, ANYONE besides Cindy winning is fine with me. Cindy annoys the heck out of me.

she annoys the heck out of anyone

[biee]

I AM SO SAD.


The other teams just got lucky, esp c&e...

[YLSF]

Yeah.. C&E were really lucky...

Man, wasn't happy with that ending.... I liked how they didn't make the clues as obvious this time around. I was hoping someone was going to go to the air port and fly to San Francisco Bay :)

[Talamasca]

I was just in Panama a little while ago. I'm taking tonight's episode as a shout out to me! I visited a bunch of the places they went to tonight.

[HammerJoe]

Wow, theres being eliminated and then theres being eliminated this way...

This absolutely the worst season finale of the Amazing Race and I dont even care for the snowboarders but being eliminated this way it just doesnt seem fair.

The show doesnt really show how the drivers got to talk to each other and Im surprised that two cabbies going one way and the other going elsewhere and they all agree to go with the lone driver? It doesnt make sense... why not all go to Balboa???

[MrDisco]

my two fav teams have been eliminated. now i'm just going to root for the blonde with the big nipply boobs.

[biee]

^Lol...

I rather cheer for M&A

[MrWizard]

So bummed about Andy and Tommy being eliminated. For all the talk about those two being lucky, Cindy and Ernie have had a TON of luck.

Doubt I'll watch the finale now, could really care less who wins.

[zonetbh]

So bummed about Andy and Tommy being eliminated. For all the talk about those two being lucky, Cindy and Ernie have had a TON of luck.

Doubt I'll watch the finale now, could really care less who wins.

Show is 100% luck based. Ever since that season (i think it was season 3 or 4) where one of the three final teams was 6+ hours behind the leading two teams and ended up winning because of flight delays I have had zero respect for the show and I feel like getting involved in favorite teams and players is just a waste of time, because some idiot cab driver or some stupid flight delay could cause the CLEARLY best team to lose.

100% luck based, I would rather go play a slot machine then watch amazing race. Same ****, different pile.

[googoo]

Great way to go into the finals, although we al expected them to be in the finals it was good to see them not get a lucky break.

So far it's been a good season SLIGHTLY above average and I'll be happy to see any of te remaining teams win.

Brent

[starkiller2010]

Wow... worst elimination round ever. I get it, the snowboarders messed up; but so were the other 2 teams (or were going to). How in the world the show let the cab drivers talk to bail the other 2 teams out is beyond me. To be fair, they should have made it a 4 team final.

[Madchester]

Hahaha I love the ending.

Snowboarders kept bragging how they were "lucky", "couldn't believe their luck", etc... how they always finished first. And there were multiple times where they didn't arrive at the Pit Stop first, but checked-in first due to mistakes made by other teams.

So their "luck" runs out on this leg, and all their "fans" start whining about the rules on FB and Twitter. Ay-carumba... it's like the groupy Cowboy fans complaining about their elimination last season.

Kent (from last season) basically owned some of the "fans" on TAR's FB site :D :D :

http://i43.tinypic.com/faq1zm.jpg
http://i44.tinypic.com/ab5k3t.jpg

[xlc_88]

I'm actually okay with this elimination.

At the beginning, I actually thought it was unfair that there was "time sign in" sheet to fill in before the finale race. I'm surprised no one complained about this. I think it's so stupid to have this sheet when all the teams started the leg in Panama together.

The cross talk between taxi drivers may seem unfair but its beyond what the camera men can do on TAR. When they are filming the teams on the tasks, the taxi drivers can still freely talk to each other behind the scenes.

Also, how come no one complains about Armani and Marcus taxi driver? Their taxi driver brought them to the wrong place. That appeared unfair to them.

At the end, I'm okay with anyone winning...they all seem like deserving teams.

[oranr]

Can't believe the snowboarders got the boot! I missed Sunday's episode and from the sounds of it, was probably the best one yet!

[nufan]

Have to agree that you can't really complain at the taxi drivers talking to each other. Not like that's really the teams fault. Most of the race is based on luck, and relying on locals to get you to the right locations anyway. I could tell the snowboarders were going to get eliminated based on how much emphasis they put on their "luck" throughout the episode.

Will be cheering for A+M in the final!

[LonesomeDove]

Why is everyone talking about luck during this past episode when luck had nothing to do with the snowboarders being eliminated.

They were their own worst enemy when they were so hasty in misreading the clue at the Dancing Women Square. If they had spent more time in trying to decifer the clue, they would have been in the final three. Why rush it when they were clearly in the lead. Instead they jump to the incorrect conclusion.

[starkiller2010]

Why is everyone talking about luck during this past episode when luck had nothing to do with the snowboarders being eliminated.

They were their own worst enemy when they were so hasty in misreading the clue at the Dancing Women Square. If they had spent more time in trying to decifer the clue, they would have been in the final three. Why rush it when they were clearly in the lead. Instead they jump to the incorrect conclusion.

Yeah, but 2 of the 3 teams that followed also were going to head to 'Bulboia' whatever that statue was... but then were corrected by their taxi drivers; hence the 'luck' factor.

[xlc_88]

Yeah, but 2 of the 3 teams that followed also were going to head to 'Bulboia' whatever that statue was... but then were corrected by their taxi drivers; hence the 'luck' factor.

It was also that "luck" factor that made Amani and Marcus go to the wrong location. How come no one backs up Amani and Marcus.

And I totally agree with LonesomeDove. The surfers were in the lead and had time to actually read the clue. Instead they were driven by their egos rather than by their heads. My guilty pleasure was actually seeing the surfers lose their lead. :twisted: At least they both won a Ford Mustang!

[iheartpepsi]

I have no problem with how the surfers got eliminated, but it's just added to how little I like the legs where they have to rely on taxis instead of driving themselves.

[nufan]

I disliked E+C as much as anyone, but they ran pretty much a perfect last leg so deserved to win. Dunno why Phil said the map task could shake up the leg, seemed pretty straight forward and a pretty tame leg on the whole. Fairly average season but still enjoyed it personally.

[LonesomeDove]

The finale was pretty much anti-climatic 25 minutes into the episode when Jeremy and Sandy went to the wrong location, "The Dump". You knew they were finished no matter how the Amazing Race producers edit the show. There was no suspense what so ever. And you knew Marcus and Amani won't make it either when they took 12 attempts to complete the simulator task.

Same as like The Amazing Race 18, the winners and losers were determined by incompetent taxi drivers. It just ruins the show. I wish they would make alternative to taxis. Like them driving their own cars. Or if that is too risky, let them use bicyles.

[da1daonlyone]

In terms of the finale, taxis didn't play a big role so I'm good with that. Memory task was too easy, so much for a game changer.

E and C, not my favorites but it's better than the surfers winning it.

[MrDisco]

The finale was pretty much anti-climatic 25 minutes into the episode when Jeremy and Sandy went to the wrong location

The editing was pretty bad. hot blonde with nice boobs did not win and that made :'(

when does the next race begin?

[nufan]

Same as like The Amazing Race 18, the winners and losers were determined by incompetent taxi drivers. It just ruins the show. I wish they would make alternative to taxis. Like them driving their own cars. Or if that is too risky, let them use bicyles.
Were you watching the same episode as me? The taxi drivers did nothing to effect the outcome in the final leg. They didn't know the locations and the contestants were left to find it out themselves. E+C did better online research and told the taxi driver where to go, where as J+S just trusted some random dude in a car which had them ending up at the wrong place.

[Madchester]

Cindy and Ernie were good for TV. Cindy's a complete keener/over-achiever.... and Ernie's trying to spend the whole race proving his worth. :lol:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=huMZMqEWmtE

:lol::lol::lol:

[bembol]

Were you watching the same episode as me? The taxi drivers did nothing to effect the outcome in the final leg. They didn't know the locations and the contestants were left to find it out themselves. E+C did better online research and told the taxi driver where to go, where as J+S just trusted some random dude in a car which had them ending up at the wrong place.

Not sure way LonesomeDove was talking about either. My third favorite team won, so congrats to E&C. Their lead was too much and the editing at the end was pathetic.

As for finale challenges, my favorite (season) is Twelve.

[xlc_88]

I like Ernie and Cindy and I'm glad they won (they were my first pick at the beginning of the season). They were methodological and level-headed through the entire race. Great season. All the teams were likeable and little bickering.

[oranr]

In terms of the finale, taxis didn't play a big role so I'm good with that. Memory task was too easy, so much for a game changer.

I agree ^, wasn't too much of a race the last episode. It was kinda boring actually. Glad they won tho, Cindy was the star and Ernie tried not to mess things up!

[biee]

I hope they do another round of unfinished business like season 18.

[1226]

Does anybody even have the slightest clue what Cindy plans to do with the money? That speech at the end was just gibberish. "Help people contribute to the global economy" or something to that effect? That sounds like it could've been said by Ms. "And the Iraq and like such as" (http://www.likesuchas.com/).

[YLSF]

Ha. SO, Cindy is an actress? That McD clip was funny (but they forgot to show them buttering the mcmuffin.. which they do.... I usually ask them not too).

The team going to the "Dump" instead was funny. I wonder what the rules of the game are. Maybe they should always just find someone with a smart phone and ask them because it was the 1st or 2nd result on google if you search "the dump" and "Atlanta".

Who were E and C calling with their/cabbies phone? Information services/tourism?

[jwoods1075]

That Asian chick with the small eyes was annoying.

[xlc_88]

Does anybody even have the slightest clue what Cindy plans to do with the money? That speech at the end was just gibberish. "Help people contribute to the global economy" or something to that effect? That sounds like it could've been said by Ms. "And the Iraq and like such as" (http://www.likesuchas.com/).


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DRbaWuNzX4

[1226]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0DRbaWuNzX4

OK, so childhood obesity. Good cause. But in "emerging markets"? Sounds more like an investment term but OK, I get the meaning. But is obesity a real concern in poorer countries? Common sense would tell you obesity is more of a problem in developed countries, where food is cheap and abundant. Isn't famine more of a concern in developing countries? I mean, fight famine over there, childhood obesity at home, no? What they're planning to do seems backwards.

[Tornado F2]

OK, so childhood obesity. Good cause. But in "emerging markets"? Sounds more like an investment term but OK, I get the meaning. But is obesity a real concern in poorer countries? Common sense would tell you obesity is more of a problem in developed countries, where food is cheap and abundant. Isn't famine more of a concern in developing countries? I mean, fight famine over there, childhood obesity at home, no? What they're planning to do seems backwards.

$1 million won't go far to combat the spread of McD-style junk food across the globe. That's what's causing much of the childhood obesity, both here and abroad. And here at least it's the poor who suffer from it most. (Mothers are too busy working to have time to prepare proper, healthy meals, etc).