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bembol

Sep 28th, 2011, 02:53 AM

Shockingly the only new Fall series I love is from NBC. WHITNEY.

Charlie's Angels
Free Agents
New Girl
PAN AM
Prime Suspect
Terra Nova
Up All Night

All poorly executed either with Casting and/or Writing. Except for Terra Nova & Prime Suspect I shut it down after 5-10 minutes, they were that bad! I was also shocked to hear during Sunday Night Football that UP ALL NIGHT, over 25 Million tuned in?!?!

Psubs

Sep 28th, 2011, 09:47 AM

The Playboy Club! :cheesygri

Amber Heard!!! :-0 She's not too skinny now, so she resembles Scarlett Johansson. :)

jl001

Sep 28th, 2011, 10:11 AM

Terra Nova - not so good
Charlie's Angels - not so good
Revenge - not bad, but not my type of show
Person of Interest - will try

Ojam

Sep 28th, 2011, 10:37 AM

I like the cold war spy aspect of PAN-AM, if you stopped after only 5-10 minutes you would have missed that. Playboy Club is also good
Person of Interest seems like it might be good
Terra Nova was ok, not much other scifi on so I'll give it a shot

starkiller2010

Sep 28th, 2011, 12:38 PM

Watched Person of Interest first ep last night. Not bad at all; I have a big hole to fill since Lost and 24 are gone, and I am willing to give this one a chance.

LostInTruth

Sep 28th, 2011, 01:12 PM

Unless it's on HBO, Showtime, AMC or one of those specialty channels I don't really give network television a chance; as they rarely tend to disappoint.

nauru

Sep 28th, 2011, 02:47 PM

I have a big hole to fill since Lost and 24 are gone.

So do I. Lost has been replaced by Breaking Bad actually, which is a major improvement in the 'plot driven slow burn with occasional action' category. But for the last 4 years there seems to be no series that is grownup oriented, loaded with big budget high quality action, plot driven rather than focused on boring family sideshows, has actors that don't look like models/waifs, and isn't about some boring policemen or legal/medical employees as the main characters.

Had my hopes up for Terra Nova but IMO the premiere was very poor. They had the opportunity to do something original but then inexplicably decided to write the lead character as a stereotypical policeman who sometimes breaks the rules and his wife a stereotypical top-of-her-class doctor. On top of that they write the son as a stereotypical rebellious teenage boy who is angry with his father, and the daughter as a stereotypical booksmart-but-shy-with-boys bore. And then rather than an exposition of the unique setting, most of the time the camera is pointed exclusively at this family of stereotypes as they speak and react predictably to each other's predictable statements and actions.

I can't understand why network TV doesn't have anything like 24 anymore. Wasn't that a hugely popular and commercially successful series? Didn't they learn that adult-oriented, high intensity action with a focus entirely on plot rather than gossip/fraternization gets a lot of viewers? Seems these days the only stuff worth watching is on the specialty channels.

carmaster

Sep 28th, 2011, 04:38 PM

Two broke girls is really funny.

Ojam

Sep 28th, 2011, 05:01 PM

I can't understand why network TV doesn't have anything like 24 anymore. Wasn't that a hugely popular and commercially successful series? Didn't they learn that adult-oriented, high intensity action with a focus entirely on plot rather than gossip/fraternization gets a lot of viewers? Seems these days the only stuff worth watching is on the specialty channels.

Have you checked out Hawaii Five-O?

zod

Sep 28th, 2011, 08:33 PM

Have you checked out Hawaii Five-O?

I've watched 5-0. I somewhat like it. It has some longer running plots, but for the most part, its a self contained weekly plot. I liked the serial nature of 24 (or even Lost) where you'd be fairly lost tuning in half way :) Most network tv seems to have gone back to insulated weekly episodes. Like the above poster I seem to find most of the tv I like on the specialty channels (less and less from network tv).

I also now seem to wait to see which shows get canned and which ones get picked up (and get decent reviews). It helps filter out the rubbish. I seem to be luck if there is one new network show per year that is worth watching.

nx6288

Sep 28th, 2011, 09:08 PM

they got rid of the black guy from new girls that was also on happy endings and replaced him with another dude...too lazy to look up name.

nauru

Sep 29th, 2011, 12:30 AM

Have you checked out Hawaii Five-O?

My understanding is this show is basically policemen solving the crime-of-the-week in under 45 minutes; i.e. not substantially different from the approximately 17,000 iterations of that formula which have preceded it.

If I'm way off please let me know.

I also now seem to wait to see which shows get canned and which ones get picked up (and get decent reviews). It helps filter out the rubbish. I seem to be luck if there is one new network show per year that is worth watching.

Same here. All the networks combined manage to pick up one high quality show every four years (3.5 to be charitable), on average. Obviously the specialty channels combined have a much higher hit rate than that.

DiceMan

Sep 29th, 2011, 02:50 PM

My understanding is this show is basically policemen solving the crime-of-the-week in under 45 minutes; i.e. not substantially different from the approximately 17,000 iterations of that formula which have preceded it.

If I'm way off please let me know.

I watched it a few times and felt the same. I do kind of like Grace Park, though...

bembol

Sep 29th, 2011, 03:19 PM

Watched Person of Interest first ep last night. Not bad at all; I have a big hole to fill since Lost and 24 are gone, and I am willing to give this one a chance.

I can't believe I forgot about PERSON OF INTEREST.

My favourite this fall, Jim Caviezel is perfect and works well together with Michael Emerson. Jonathan Nolan is an amazing Writer and would love to see his brother Christopher (Batman/The Dark Knight) get involved in future episodes.

Psubs

Sep 29th, 2011, 03:24 PM

the_fm

Sep 29th, 2011, 03:44 PM

Charlie's Angels
PAN AM
Terra Nova

i expect those 3 plus the playboy club to be cancel. charlie being the first one.

nauru

Sep 29th, 2011, 06:28 PM

I watched it a few times and felt the same. I do kind of like Grace Park, though...

Since you like her, I presume you have already watched Battlestar Galactica from start to finish? Much better writing, cinematography, direction and acting.

Ojam

Sep 29th, 2011, 10:37 PM

My understanding is this show is basically policemen solving the crime-of-the-week in under 45 minutes; i.e. not substantially different from the approximately 17,000 iterations of that formula which have preceded it.

Each episode does normally have an insular story, but there is also a continuing thread that has gone on from last season to the current right from the first episode.

I'm hoping Person of Interest is good, Jonathan Nolan (Chris Nolan's brother) + JJ Abrams has to equal win. What I'm really waiting for is Alcatraz in the new year.

vchan81

Sep 30th, 2011, 07:47 AM

Saw the first episode of Charlie's Angels with my wife and I thought it was pretty horrible. I don't think that show will last that long.

Psubs

Sep 30th, 2011, 09:48 AM

Each episode does normally have an insular story, but there is also a continuing thread that has gone on from last season to the current right from the first episode.

I'm hoping Person of Interest is good, Jonathan Nolan (Chris Nolan's brother) + JJ Abrams has to equal win. What I'm really waiting for is Alcatraz in the new year.

Watched PoI last night and liked it enough to switch away from Grey's Anatomy. :-0

So they have a computer like the one in the Dark Knight, but camera's and not sonar and it processes info to determine if there's a threat to national security but it was also producing results for regular people.

Maybe Finch's limp was the reason he decided to help the smaller people? Maybe he got mugged or something?

DiceMan

Sep 30th, 2011, 10:27 AM

Since you like her, I presume you have already watched Battlestar Galactica from start to finish? Much better writing, cinematography, direction and acting.

Oh yeah. Every episode, TV movie, mini series, and webisode, (and also Caprica). Agreed wholeheartedly on all counts. Sad but I simply haven't run across anything of that calibre in years.

Clement

Sep 30th, 2011, 12:29 PM

DaveCCC

Sep 30th, 2011, 01:44 PM

Terra Nova:

I was excited to see a time travel/dinosaur story but it quickly got bogged down. They've set up a huge community in the past which takes all the time traveller/exploring new world excitement out of the show. They'll probably have stupid story plots such as the teenagers falling in love, etc.

Aggy

Sep 30th, 2011, 03:08 PM

Terra Nova: So when do we see aliens in the show. According to the show Ancient Aliens it has happened...believe it! :cheesygri

whampoa

Oct 2nd, 2011, 05:11 PM

The only show I like so far on network TV is Revenge.

Loosely based on The Count of Monte Cristo by Alexandre Dumas.

Funny, this modern adaptation is more faithful to the novel than the The Count of Monte Cristo (2002 film), starring Jim Caviezel.

Now if they can figure out how to tie some loose end, like how she got incarcerated and what skills she learned from prison, etc.

nagasadow

Oct 2nd, 2011, 08:52 PM

Parents are watching Charlies Angels right now and Im finding it bloody ******** to the point I would rather watch treehouse tv

I personally liked terra nova but they gotta step up the character building and kill off someone thats annoying

Pan AM is boring

ReverseFate

Oct 2nd, 2011, 08:55 PM

Homeland is probably the best new show this fall for me. I'll also keep up with Person of Interest and New Girl, but not anything else.

stealth

Oct 3rd, 2011, 02:05 AM

Two broke girls is really funny.

I thought it was hit and miss, but actually funnier than the other 2 shows I had high hopes for: Whitney, Up All Night. Or maybe I just enjoyed watching Kat Dennings jugs.

But all better than last years "Afion: In the flow" or whatever urban jargon that show was called. Ive seen funnier test patterns.

LonesomeDove

Oct 3rd, 2011, 04:20 AM

Have you checked out Hawaii Five-O?

Hawaii Five-0 is technically not a new show as it is in its 2nd year. The OP is asking about THIS years new shows.

I can only say Hawaii Five-O is a lot better than the remake of the 1970's Charlie Angels. Charles Angles has been ravaged by the critics and its ratings have been dismal. I expect it to be cancelled soon.

TripleHelix

Oct 3rd, 2011, 07:48 AM

Homeland is probably the best new show this fall for me. I'll also keep up with Person of Interest and New Girl, but not anything else.

Can we watch this in Canada or just download?

Kuurgen

Oct 5th, 2011, 01:22 AM

I can't believe I forgot about PERSON OF INTEREST.

My favourite this fall, Jim Caviezel is perfect and works well together with Michael Emerson. Jonathan Nolan is an amazing Writer and would love to see his brother Christopher (Batman/The Dark Knight) get involved in future episodes.

Another +1 for Person of Interest. Let's pray word gets out on this so it keeps going. love seeing Ben from Lost in something else.

got_it_4_cheap

Oct 5th, 2011, 01:39 AM

i expect those 3 plus the playboy club to be cancel. charlie being the first one.

playboy got canceled after 3 episodes :-0

LonesomeDove

Oct 15th, 2011, 12:30 AM

Charlie's Angels got cancelled today after only 4 episodes.

It was an awful show with a bunch of unknown actors who can't act. Plus they were not that hot anyways.

nagasadow

Oct 15th, 2011, 01:08 AM

Charlie's Angels got cancelled today after only 4 episodes.

It was an awful show with a bunch of unknown actors who can't act. Plus they were not that hot anyways.

Wooo best news of the day:D

the_fm

Oct 15th, 2011, 03:01 PM

playboy got canceled after 3 episodes :-0

oh man, i was so close! :cheesygri

now, i'm waiting for pan am and terra nova. that one might last a full season. umm

Angela V

Oct 15th, 2011, 03:32 PM

Charlie's Angels got cancelled today after only 4 episodes.

It was an awful show with a bunch of unknown actors who can't act. Plus they were not that hot anyways.

Now I can delete the episodes off of my PVR. I watched the first episode and then decided to just PVR the rest and watch later if it didn't get canceled.

nx6288

Oct 15th, 2011, 06:50 PM

anybody watch whitney?

SAN66

Oct 16th, 2011, 12:38 AM

Another +1 for Person of Interest. Let's pray word gets out on this so it keeps going. love seeing Ben from Lost in something else.

This is probably the only one that stands out so far. I just hope it doesn't become too formulaic. The only overarching stories they have going at the moment is the the cop hunting Reese. There are backstories yet to be revealed as well, but thats not really an overarching plot, just a standard plot device.

The ones I'm looking forward to are Abrams other funded project, Alcatraz which looks great and Grimm, which looks like a less family oriented Once Upon a Time. Ohhh and the Walking Dead season 2, which starts tomorrow! Yay!

DougO

Oct 16th, 2011, 11:39 AM

Terra Nova is gawd awful! And all those supporters on Imdb! To see a good show with dinos, watch Primeval. 5 seasons worth...

TN SHOULD go off the air after it's 13 episode run but look for Spielberg to step in and get it a 2nd season (they saved the Simpsons for 2 more seasons so who knows). So far, TN has failed to impress this household. But then this is the same umbrella as Falling Skies, also with it's PC "family drama" moniker slapped all over it. Bah!

For a good laugh about the series check this out:

http://tvtropes.org/pmwiki/pmwiki.php/Series/TerraNova?from=Main.TerraNova

Psubs

Oct 17th, 2011, 01:56 PM

DougO

Oct 17th, 2011, 02:03 PM

They hint to a guy getting eaten and MUST be eaten. >:( You don't have to show the torn flesh but must die as dinos don't give a fook about TV audiences sensitivities.

Maybe they could introduce a prehistoric Honey Badger?!?!? :twisted:

That's why I like Primeval. Lots of people dead because of the dinos, including kids at a highschool in one episode. Also, in the UK you (apparently) CAN kill the dinos and not have to worry about the (PC) sensitivities of the kiddie audience...:lol:

christov

Oct 17th, 2011, 02:54 PM

so far the only new show that i have watched each week is PAN AM.
tried watching a few others... but never made it past more than one ep

djstiles

Oct 18th, 2011, 11:54 AM

I have my PVR set to Person of interest, Terra Nova, A Gifted Man, and Up All Night.

Person of Interest and Up All Night are my favorites for sure.

Pochacco

Oct 18th, 2011, 03:28 PM

Only new show that even remotely interests me is Ringer cause of SMG finally returning to TV.

Other than that all these other concepts are worn out. Isn't Pan Am and that Playboy Club show just Mad Men wrapped in a different setting?

It was bound to happen... Networks following the success of Mad Men are trying to make a hit of their own.

Yes, Pan Am is plain boring .. and wrong in so many aspects (the latest episode have them landing in Hong Kong in one scene... and we hear an announcer speaking mandarin over the intercom at the aiport..Huh.. Hello? HK was still under the British Colony at that time.. There was no way Mandarin would be used...the correct language should have been Cantonese) I keep watching every week hoping that something will pique my interest but all the characters are just too one dimensional...That Cia storyline is ridiculous.. I think the show is bound to be cancelled.. the ratings are falling every week..

Tornado F2

Oct 29th, 2011, 07:46 PM

Charlie's Angels got cancelled today after only 4 episodes.

It was an awful show with a bunch of unknown actors who can't act. Plus they were not that hot anyways.

I hadn't even noticed. Even my PVR switched itself back to Benny Hill on Thursday. :lol:

If they want to use the franchise they need comparable babes to the original 3/4, or perhaps the movie trio. I only caught the 2nd episode and none of the girls seemed anything special. Cheryl Ladd was on NCIS this week and even she (60 now according to wiki) looked better. (No worse anyway).

Tornado F2

Oct 29th, 2011, 08:10 PM

This is probably the only one that stands out so far. I just hope it doesn't become too formulaic. The only overarching stories they have going at the moment is the the cop hunting Reese. There are backstories yet to be revealed as well, but thats not really an overarching plot, just a standard plot device.

The ones I'm looking forward to are Abrams other funded project, Alcatraz which looks great and Grimm, which looks like a less family oriented Once Upon a Time. Ohhh and the Walking Dead season 2, which starts tomorrow! Yay!

I'm enjoying PoI too. Grimm looks decent, especially if the guy from Prison Break's character (Big Bad Wolf) remains a comedic regular. Can't be bothered checking out OUAT - looks too much like a chick show.

so far the only new show that i have watched each week is PAN AM.
tried watching a few others... but never made it past more than one ep

Gotta love the babes and the setting. The early 60s seems like a good era to set a show, with Kennedy, Cuba, the Cold War, etc. They'll probably have The Beatles on at some point. They just need to get rid of Captain Doogie Howser and replace him with somebody older and more interesting. I was amazed to read on imdb that he was 2nd choice for the Kirk role in the Star Trek reboot.

Yes, Pan Am is plain boring .. and wrong in so many aspects (the latest episode have them landing in Hong Kong in one scene... and we hear an announcer speaking mandarin over the intercom at the aiport..Huh.. Hello? HK was still under the British Colony at that time.. There was no way Mandarin would be used...the correct language should have been Cantonese).

Fortunate for the show then that most of the audience are likely Caucasian, and therefore completely missed that. It's certainly unrealistic to have the plane flying to a different exotic locale every week, just as the pilots' ages are unrealistic, but I'm sure the aim is to create a fun drama, not a boring reality show. I like the way they use actual period footage for the airports, giving the show a more authentic feel than it would otherwise have. I learned that the actress playing the French stewardess is actually from QC. Wonder if they film there at all, to get the European settings? I'll have to look into that.

Edit: Nope, NYC. Interesting how at least 3 of this season's new dramas are NYC-based. (PoI, AGM, and PA). (And Unforgettable too - almost forgot! :)).

manixc

Oct 30th, 2011, 01:17 AM

Grimm looks great. Ringer not so much (watching only because of SMG)

skyblue12

Nov 2nd, 2011, 11:37 AM

decided to start person of interest because of all the ads i see on the side of TTC busses every day. definitely enjoying it so far.

BlazinTrini

Nov 3rd, 2011, 12:53 AM

Best new fall series has to be American Horror Story

Person of Interest is starting to turn into Person of Disinterest

bembol

Nov 11th, 2011, 04:19 PM

I like Maria Bello so I gave it another chance and watched the second episode. I loved it, my favourite!

When I first saw the Pilot, the other characters didn't sync but something changed, I guess they just needed more time to click. I stayed up all night catching up, I'm now watching the sixth episode.