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farfargurl
Nov 6th, 2011, 07:05 PM
today i tried one of their new cheeseburger and it was a big rip off! i got the single 1/4 cheeseburger by itself, total came to $4.84 after tax and burger was not even that good tasting! :facepalm:

Jimboski
Nov 6th, 2011, 07:09 PM
today i tried one of their new cheeseburger and it was a big rip off! i got the single 1/4 cheeseburger by itself, total came to $4.84 after tax and burger was not even that good tasting! :facepalm:

I heard their new menu Is completely overpriced and not worth It.
I guess you experienced It the hard way.

iamnotamerican.com
Nov 6th, 2011, 08:59 PM
today i tried one of their new cheeseburger and it was a big rip off! i got the single 1/4 cheeseburger by itself, total came to $4.84 after tax and burger was not even that good tasting! :facepalm:

Even Macca's is getting ridiculous. Went to the Brentwood Mall location the other day to get a Big Mac and was shocked to see it coming in at over $4.

Certainly isn't a bargain anymore, especially when you're getting two or three of them...

redgrandam
Nov 6th, 2011, 09:14 PM
I don't eat fast food anymore, but I remember Harvey's and McDonald's being not cheap last time I went. Seemed you couldn't get much of a combo at McDonald's for under 7 bucks. Depends on location I'm sure, but iirc at these places the price difference between the burger only and the combo is usually very small, making just a burger purchase seem expensive.

jordanr1987
Nov 6th, 2011, 09:57 PM
and sadly america has wendys 'whats your 99' as in 99 cent value menu
and in canada its 1.89 why? :mad:

Akitakara
Nov 6th, 2011, 10:08 PM
today i tried one of their new cheeseburger and it was a big rip off! i got the single 1/4 cheeseburger by itself, total came to $4.84 after tax and burger was not even that good tasting! :facepalm:

It's because it's Finger Lickin' Good :D:D:D

farfargurl
Nov 6th, 2011, 10:29 PM
fast food have lost one of its main function of wat is suppose to be cheap and fast, but now is only fast! no more cheap!

c-ditty
Nov 7th, 2011, 08:25 AM
It all seems overpriced these days but at least McD's, Harvey's and Burger King actual mail out decent coupons on a regular basis. I don't know about you guys but I have never received coupons from Wendy's.

Supercooled
Nov 7th, 2011, 08:37 AM
$4 sandwich is the new economical option. It use to be and I mean not that long ago, you could have a combo meal for under $5 after the tax man has taken his share; now you're lucky to get anything under $7.

When the weather is much more fair, you can buy the sandwich and bring your own sides like a can cola and a banana or apple and sit in the park. Even deli prepared sandwiches are too much nowadays. $3.50-$4 for a scant tuna or chicken wrap?

Some say I'm cheap but I prefer wise with my money. I'll use that money and make myself a most satisfying meal at home with all the trimmings thank you very much.

dre145
Nov 7th, 2011, 08:48 AM
these businesses were made by cheap labor and the government keeps increasing the min wage so obviously the fast food prices will go up.

New york states min wage is 7.25 while georgia still has a min wage of 5.15 so obviously you cant compare canada and US prices

catwalk
Nov 7th, 2011, 10:35 AM
It all seems overpriced these days but at least McD's, Harvey's and Burger King actual mail out decent coupons on a regular basis. I don't know about you guys but I have never received coupons from Wendy's.
Wendy's rarely mails or has coupons so I was shocked when I got some a few weeks ago! Free cheeseburger (the $1.89 one) with purchase of fries & drink, so about $4.

Wendy's is about the only fast food place I can stand now, mostly because of their non-fry options like baked potato, chilli and salads. BK, McD's & especially KFC make me feel crappy (pun intended) & gross after ;)

Piro21
Nov 7th, 2011, 11:03 AM
I noticed this as well this past weekend. An original combo + 1 original sandwich came up to something like $12. For that price I can just order takeout from an actual restaurant.

Tha_Doggg
Nov 7th, 2011, 11:23 AM
I experienced this as well recently. i couldn't even get the value menu in a combo anymore. I guess anything but Wendy's from now on.

frustrated inc.
Nov 8th, 2011, 08:07 AM
and sadly america has wendys 'whats your 99' as in 99 cent value menu
and in canada its 1.89 why? :mad:

I heard somewhere Canada and USA are two different countries.

You can't just compare parity of the dollar. Canada has one tenth the population. That's going to be a factor.

beleafer81
Nov 10th, 2011, 02:56 AM
Come on guys whats with the hate for wendy's? They have poutine now!;)

TCWeasel
Nov 10th, 2011, 08:24 PM
You just need a Fast Eddie's (http://www.fasteddies.ca) in your area.

farfargurl
Nov 11th, 2011, 02:42 AM
You just need a Fast Eddie's (http://www.fasteddies.ca) in your area.

someone open one up here in Markham please!

Ballroomblitz
Nov 11th, 2011, 06:42 AM
Come on guys whats with the hate for wendy's? They have poutine now!;)

Didn't know that, will have to give it a try.

XtremeModder
Nov 11th, 2011, 07:52 PM
I don't know if I'd consider it fast food but subways $5 footlongs are pretty decent since it actually makes me full and not feel like crap after

brunes
Nov 11th, 2011, 11:30 PM
Wendy's burgers look and taste as if someone in the kitchen swallowed the ingredients, opened the bun, and up-chucked them back inside the burger. Every burger that comes out of that place is a sloppy horrible mess. I don't know why some people have this strange passion for that place. I never ear there except as a last resort, and when I have to I only order their JBCs, mainly because the bacon taste drowns out the horrible burger perfectly.

Ballroomblitz
Nov 12th, 2011, 11:35 AM
Wendy's burgers look and taste as if someone in the kitchen swallowed the ingredients, opened the bun, and up-chucked them back inside the burger. Every burger that comes out of that place is a sloppy horrible mess. I don't know why some people have this strange passion for that place. I never ear there except as a last resort, and when I have to I only order their JBCs, mainly because the bacon taste drowns out the horrible burger perfectly.

Tell us how you really feel.....lol.

Medve
Nov 13th, 2011, 10:52 AM
I got the coupons and tried the burgers again after being turned off by them before. But I have to say I really thought they improved their burgers and I'm back on board. Of course the coupons help but I will not be avoiding Wendy's anymore since I like the burgers again now.

Kuurgen
Nov 13th, 2011, 12:08 PM
I like Burger King's "King Deals".

Mugen123
Nov 13th, 2011, 01:07 PM
wendy's is terrible anyways, same with BK, MCD, Harveys.. Only burger I like is A&W

laptopuser
Nov 13th, 2011, 01:29 PM
wendy's is terrible anyways, same with BK, MCD, Harveys.. Only burger I like is A&W

A&W is overpriced. harveys is awful and overpriced. mcd is good if youre on a budget. BK only on whopper wednesdays.
subway is overpriced. pizza pizza is awful. i thikn ill leave my list at that

ccyk
Nov 13th, 2011, 02:00 PM
I heard somewhere Canada and USA are two different countries.

You can't just compare parity of the dollar. Canada has one tenth the population. That's going to be a factor.

this factor cant justify 112% premium.

Mugen123
Nov 13th, 2011, 03:02 PM
A&W is overpriced. harveys is awful and overpriced. mcd is good if youre on a budget. BK only on whopper wednesdays.
subway is overpriced. pizza pizza is awful. i thikn ill leave my list at that

well yeah all fast food is overpriced now... just saying A&W is edible

farfargurl
Nov 13th, 2011, 03:12 PM
A&W is overpriced. harveys is awful and overpriced. mcd is good if youre on a budget. BK only on whopper wednesdays.
subway is overpriced. pizza pizza is awful. i thikn ill leave my list at that

i think subways $5, $6 foot long subs is still OK priced portion-wise compare to the others. McD's mcdeals, eg. McDouble is still good for $1.39. pizza pizza's walk-in $4.99 med pizza is OK, and DQ's recent mini blizzard deal is good too for $5.49.......thats probably all I can think of, other than those, i will rather go for chinese take out or just cook at home;)

wejwej
Nov 13th, 2011, 05:39 PM
A&W is overpriced. harveys is awful and overpriced. mcd is good if youre on a budget. BK only on whopper wednesdays.
subway is overpriced. pizza pizza is awful. i thikn ill leave my list at that

burger king has a value meal everyday not just wednesday. i hate their food though.

Jimboski
Nov 13th, 2011, 05:44 PM
well yeah all fast food is overpriced now... just saying A&W is edible

You say all Is overpriced, I'd pay $4-$6 for Subway knowing that It's the healthiest out of all fast food. Also the portion Is not that bad IMO.
This Is basically all the fast food I eat, The rest are more expensive and more unhealthy.

CanadaBoy
Nov 13th, 2011, 05:48 PM
The best deal for a burger in Canada is at McDonalds.
Order the McDouble and Junior Chicken both with lettuce, tomatoes, onions (usually free)
Remove the buns off the junior chicken (throw them out, extra carbs) and place the rest of the sandwich between the double patties.
Result: A huge, semi-healthy, tasty burger for <$3

Jimboski
Nov 13th, 2011, 05:50 PM
The best deal for a burger in Canada is at McDonalds.
Order the McDouble and Junior Chicken both with lettuce, tomatoes, onions (usually free)
Remove the buns off the junior chicken (throw them out, extra carbs) and place the rest of the sandwich between the double patties.
Result: A huge, semi-healthy, tasty burger for <$3

The Junior chicken I always order doesn't come with tomatoes or onions, I'm guessing you gotta ask them to put It In? Or Is this for the McDouble?

CanadaBoy
Nov 13th, 2011, 05:51 PM
The Junior chicken I always order doesn't come with tomatoes or onions, I'm guessing you gotta ask them to put It In? Or Is this for the McDouble?

Yes, forgot to add you need to ask for it.

Jimboski
Nov 13th, 2011, 05:55 PM
Yes, forgot to add you need to ask for it.

Ahh cool thanks, The only burger I order from McD's just got better!
Thanked.

laptopuser
Nov 13th, 2011, 06:55 PM
You say all Is overpriced, I'd pay $4-$6 for Subway knowing that It's the healthiest out of all fast food. Also the portion Is not that bad IMO.
This Is basically all the fast food I eat, The rest are more expensive and more unhealthy.

dunno i dont think subway is that healthy. i can see how u think the burger places arent. but id rather eat beef than a cold cut combo with various salami or whatever. which is one of the subs u can get for the reduced price.. and sucks, like the other cheap ones. only thing good at subway is chicken breast for me. and we all know thats about what, $7-8 for a footlong? some ridiculous price.

willdacanucker
Nov 14th, 2011, 07:41 AM
Wendy's is a scam anyway. Their "never frozen" fresh beef is not that at all. I used to deliver food products for Subway and Wendy's down in the States. Wendy's never frozen burger patties are in fact near "completely frozen" depending which stop in the que the store was. For example, the route I had, had me travel between 4 different states. If my first stop was over 6 hours away, those patties would be the least frozen. When I got near the end of my route for the week, it would be 3 or 4 days later, so those patties were the most frozen. Granted, they were not completely frozen, but they were 75-90% frozen, so they can tell you that the patties are "never frozen" in their marketing.

Subway's "fresh baked" in store bread is also not "fresh baked" in store. We used to pick the bread up from the factory bakery, 88% par baked and flash frozen. So all the store had to do is "bake" the last 12%. It is all marketing hype.;)

toram23901
Nov 14th, 2011, 01:43 PM
I heard somewhere Canada and USA are two different countries.

You can't just compare parity of the dollar. Canada has one tenth the population. That's going to be a factor.

Understanding that there is more to it than just dollar parity, the direct visual comparison between the prices is hard for people to not notice. I frequent the States quite a bit and the fact that the McChicken is on their $1 menu just makes me want to stop buying stuff over here in Canada.

If you cross the border more often, these price comparisons really help me see how I am hurting my wallet.

Kuurgen
Nov 20th, 2011, 02:30 AM
Yes, forgot to add you need to ask for it.

There should be a thread dedicated to things like this. Mcdonalds has become the master at removing things normally given and now making the customer ask for what should be included. Ketchup at the drive thru for example.

GBA
Nov 21st, 2011, 01:58 PM
The best deal for a burger in Canada is at McDonalds.
Order the McDouble and Junior Chicken both with lettuce, tomatoes, onions (usually free)
Remove the buns off the junior chicken (throw them out, extra carbs) and place the rest of the sandwich between the double patties.
Result: A huge, semi-healthy, tasty burger for <$3

McGangbang, right? hahaha.

(if you're wondering what it is, CanadaBoy has it pretty much laid out here. It's become pretty famous, google it for pictures and variations. Cheaper than most of the larger sandwiches at McD's as well! :cheesygri)

windforcexx28
Nov 21st, 2011, 06:37 PM
The menu change at Wendy's is ridiculous. I haven't been there since then, not that I ever liked their food anyways.

Imran DeRoy
Nov 21st, 2011, 08:36 PM
Was it A&W that was the trendsetter here? $8 for a combo was ridiculous 2, 3 years ago and it still is.


Seems to me the only place with the lower prices these days is BK. You can still get a combo for under $5 (well, at least for the veggie burger and bk big fish), even less with SPC. Mcdonalds wants $3.80ish for their filet o fish on its own, or was it 4.6x something?

I suppose if people keep buying it....

immodium
Dec 17th, 2011, 12:17 AM
The best deal for a burger in Canada is at McDonalds.
Order the McDouble and Junior Chicken both with lettuce, tomatoes, onions (usually free)
Remove the buns off the junior chicken (throw them out, extra carbs) and place the rest of the sandwich between the double patties.
Result: A huge, semi-healthy, tasty burger for <$3

Sounds tasty but its definitely NOT healthy ;)

M-e-X-x
Dec 17th, 2011, 05:54 PM
The best deal for a burger in Canada is at McDonalds.
Order the McDouble and Junior Chicken both with lettuce, tomatoes, onions (usually free)
Remove the buns off the junior chicken (throw them out, extra carbs) and place the rest of the sandwich between the double patties.
Result: A huge, semi-healthy, tasty burger for <$3

That's my usual late night snack, sans the putting 2 sandwiches together (I just eat them as is).

ronin1701
Dec 17th, 2011, 11:13 PM
The best deal for a burger in Canada is at McDonalds.
Order the McDouble and Junior Chicken both with lettuce, tomatoes, onions (usually free)
Remove the buns off the junior chicken (throw them out, extra carbs) and place the rest of the sandwich between the double patties.
Result: A huge, semi-healthy, tasty burger for <$3

You can get lettuce and tomatoes on a McDouble?

How's the combination beef and chicken sandwich taste?

I usually just get two McDoubles and combine them, throwing out two slices of bread. Same amount of cheese, double the meat, and 2/3 bread of a Big Mac, at a little over half the cost. I suppose that if you really miss the special sauce, then you can ask for the McDoubles without ketchup and mustard, and bring a little bottle of Thousand Island with you :lol:

A buddy of mine, back when he was doing Atkins during the maintenance phase, would buy four McDoubles (or whatever it was they were offering back then, it's been a while) and tossed out all but two slices of bread.

Shimso
Dec 18th, 2011, 11:44 AM
The best deal for a burger in Canada is at McDonalds.
Order the McDouble and Junior Chicken both with lettuce, tomatoes, onions (usually free)
Remove the buns off the junior chicken (throw them out, extra carbs) and place the rest of the sandwich between the double patties.
Result: A huge, semi-healthy, tasty burger for <$3

Tasty? Sure. Semi-healthy? No. The cheese, sauce, and mechanically separated chicken are not the greatest ingredients :)

BananaHunter
Dec 18th, 2011, 11:54 AM
I think the biggest reason for the high price of fast food in Canada is simple: HIGH MINIMUM WAGE.

I think we seriously need to abandon the concept of a living wage as a minimum wage. People working minimum wage in fast food chains aren't exactly looking to make a living. It's a part time job for extra $$$ and to build up their resume. Minimum wage should be tied to job market conditions rather than cost of living. If unemployment is high, lower minimum wage. Lower minimum wage can increase the number of positions available. I'm sure many unemployed people are happy to take a low paying job than being unemployed.

sonic
Jan 5th, 2012, 12:52 PM
What have they done to thier burgers???

I went to 2 wendys since x-mas..both in Hamilton) The burgers were totally changed! remember when the meat was square & use to be larger than the bun & actually Taste like real meat?.....Not anymore!! I am a bit stunned to see such a change as this USE to be my favorite burger joint.

Did they change the recipe or is it just these 2 branches i had bad luck at.?

:confused:

Nettles
Jan 5th, 2012, 01:45 PM
Stupid Wendy's...their advertised sea salt fries don't even taste any different than the other ones, I'm not even convinced that they're actually using sea salt. And their frosty shake is as thick as ice cream....how are you supposed to drink that with a straw? And sometimes when I get a burger, they just give the patty and leave out the cheese or sauce or tartar sauce on the fish one. I'd prefer Harvey's if I'm going to pay the same price.

CalgaryMan
Jan 5th, 2012, 03:05 PM
All of the recent menu changes at Wendy's are designed to make them more money without major price increases. With the new burgers launched in Fall 2011, the beef patties are thicker, but smaller in area so in effect the customer is getting less. The buns are smaller too so there is less of everything in the burgers.

When they changed to fries with sea salt, the prices remained the same while the quantity of fries you get decreased.

In the summer of 2010 when Wendy's updated their salads, they added better quality ingredients but boosted the price way up to $8.49

In the fall of 2009 when Wendy's switched to Applewood Smoked Bacon yes, you were getting maybe 1.5x the bacon than before, but the Baconator increased a whopping $0.60 as a result and so did the Big Bacon Classic.

caltran
Jan 5th, 2012, 03:57 PM
Yeah, they're pretty expensive now. I'd rather just go to 5 Guys. Spend $2 more, get a way better meal.

nippleholic
Jan 6th, 2012, 05:28 PM
for those that think $4.84 is expensive: http://www.thestar.com/business/article/1108329--wendy-s-re-enters-japan-with-16-foie-gras-and-truffle-burger

nippleholic
Feb 4th, 2012, 10:44 PM
Walked by the Yonge/St. Clair location earlier today and the notice on the door says they apparently didn't pay rent for "December 2011 and/or January 2012" and that they "surreptitiously" vacated the premises over the January 20-22 weekend.
I think it's kind of weird they would just disappear overnight, I always thought it was a profitable location, but I guess the new menu changes aren't going so well.

ur_funneh
Feb 5th, 2012, 12:29 AM
Wendy's is a scam anyway. Their "never frozen" fresh beef is not that at all. I used to deliver food products for Subway and Wendy's down in the States. Wendy's never frozen burger patties are in fact near "completely frozen" depending which stop in the que the store was. For example, the route I had, had me travel between 4 different states. If my first stop was over 6 hours away, those patties would be the least frozen. When I got near the end of my route for the week, it would be 3 or 4 days later, so those patties were the most frozen. Granted, they were not completely frozen, but they were 75-90% frozen, so they can tell you that the patties are "never frozen" in their marketing.

Subway's "fresh baked" in store bread is also not "fresh baked" in store. We used to pick the bread up from the factory bakery, 88% par baked and flash frozen. So all the store had to do is "bake" the last 12%. It is all marketing hype.;)


The comment you mentioned regarding subway about par baking the bread I think is not right. And I only say this because in the video I will be submitting below shows a lady at subway removing the long, short and thin sticks form the freezer. She then goes onto season them and "proof" them. So based on your assumption they are 88% par baked prior to proofing them? I highly doubt that considering the 12% difference doesn't justify in the size when it's completely baked. The rise from the bread from the original size to the finished product looks like it was more then 12% cooked of the difference.

Just saying how can they par bake it 88% of the way and have it look so thin, but the proofing and then final baking process jumps to a fully jumbo bread. Something is wrong here, sorry to say.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature=player_detailpage&v=8VYqMchFH7k#t=48s


As for the remainder of the discussion, my buddy usually orders one of the burgers from the value menu @ McD, forget if theirs a double patty in the VM but anyways he basically tells them to add lettuce and the mac sauce and he says its basically like having a big mac without the price difference.

Also, while I agree the fast food chains are aggressively expensive, theirs no doubt in my mind the local burger joints are any better with their prices either. The local "Star Burger" in whitby is a good burger joint and the meat is better than the relative fast food chains, but you are paying at least $8 for the burger alone, fries are extra and too salty and the drink they advertise as Regular is the normal Medium everywhere else and to top it off, they offer no FREE refills.

That is just an example, Im sure there are other local joints who offer a better value but the majority of the mom/pops don't have the foot traffic and rent is due every month so the cost of the "home-made" burger jacks up.

And to the person who said making their own patty at home is better. Yes absolutely but it's all about convenience, you can't just go and buy 3 pickles, 2 slices of tomato, one leaf of lettuce, a squirt of mayo/ketchup. While most of the main ingredients of the burger are usually part of the essential refrigerator tools, you always (and i mean always) end up paying for something a lot more for so much which becomes so un-necessary unless you are feeding a group of people.

gilboman
Feb 6th, 2012, 10:39 AM
and sadly america has wendys 'whats your 99' as in 99 cent value menu
and in canada its 1.89 why? :mad:

because food costs are higher in canada, overhead is higher, and so is labour. Pretty easy.

stealth
Feb 6th, 2012, 10:47 AM
because food costs are higher in canada, overhead is higher, and so is labour. Pretty easy.

Are they double?
i.e. why the US .99 value menu is $1.89 here?

gilboman
Feb 6th, 2012, 11:29 AM
I think the biggest reason for the high price of fast food in Canada is simple: HIGH MINIMUM WAGE.

I think we seriously need to abandon the concept of a living wage as a minimum wage. People working minimum wage in fast food chains aren't exactly looking to make a living. It's a part time job for extra $$$ and to build up their resume. Minimum wage should be tied to job market conditions rather than cost of living. If unemployment is high, lower minimum wage. Lower minimum wage can increase the number of positions available. I'm sure many unemployed people are happy to take a low paying job than being unemployed.

So because you want a lower fast/junkfood burger, we should lower the min wage?:facepalm:

gilboman
Feb 6th, 2012, 11:31 AM
Are they double?
i.e. why the US .99 value menu is $1.89 here?

labour pretty much is yup, you have to look into all the ingredients of a burger to see how much more $$ beef, dairy, grains are and as well as transportation, franchise fees and etc.

Then you have to factor in population density, avg per store sales by hr/day to figure out exactly how much.

stealth
Feb 6th, 2012, 04:05 PM
labour pretty much is yup, you have to look into all the ingredients of a burger to see how much more $$ beef, dairy, grains are and as well as transportation, franchise fees and etc.

Then you have to factor in population density, avg per store sales by hr/day to figure out exactly how much.

Meh..labour is marginal when youre talking a couple bucks an hour and they are producing hundreds of items an hour.

What does population density have to do with it? burgers arent cheaper in Manhattan than they are in rural Kansas.

gilboman
Feb 6th, 2012, 04:11 PM
Meh..labour is marginal when youre talking a couple bucks an hour and they are producing hundreds of items an hour.

What does population density have to do with it? burgers arent cheaper in Manhattan than they are in rural Kansas.

not sure if serious...if so, nothing I can explain will make sense to you.

stealth
Feb 10th, 2012, 09:46 PM
not sure if serious...if so, nothing I can explain will make sense to you.

Please explain, because your statement is stupid.

By your definition, if population is such a factor, then prices in Toronto ontario should be significantly less than in a less populous place like Mobile Alabama....but they aren't. So you're being ignorant, yet smug, as usual.:facepalm:

Ojam
Feb 10th, 2012, 10:18 PM
Are they double?
i.e. why the US .99 value menu is $1.89 here?

Min wage in New York state is 7.25. Min wage in Ontario is 10.25. That's just one metric, plus taxes, the difference can be made up prettier quickly.

TodayHello
Feb 10th, 2012, 10:32 PM
I think there was a thread about this on here recently ...... and how the $1.89 'value menu' price adjustment was the beginning of the end ........

Havent been to a Wendy's since

Stryker
Feb 11th, 2012, 11:13 AM
When I don't have a big appetite, at least they left the Jr. Hamburger Deluxe on the new menu.....and no cheese. Probably average purchasing one every month or two. Like the Wendy's burger taste way better than McDonalds small hamburger, plus you get more fresh ingredients on it, like onions, lettuce and tomato.

gilboman
Feb 11th, 2012, 07:31 PM
Please explain, because your statement is stupid.

By your definition, if population is such a factor, then prices in Toronto ontario should be significantly less than in a less populous place like Mobile Alabama....but they aren't. So you're being ignorant, yet smug, as usual.:facepalm:

you just validated why theres no use explaining to you, you have no grasp of basic cost analysis. i'll have more luck teaching my cat calculus than trying to explain why population density matters in costs of operating a business let alone in the fast food industry where all costs are higher than in the US even disregarding economies of scale or population density

but calling things you dont understand stupid should've stopped in grade 3 or so

nippleholic
Mar 6th, 2012, 09:37 PM
went to the College/Yonge location on Sunday and ordered a Bacon Deluxe combo...total incl. taxes was $7.90 :-0

the best part? they forgot to put bacon on my burger. :facepalm:

JubJubTartz
Mar 7th, 2012, 01:07 AM
I think the biggest reason for the high price of fast food in Canada is simple: HIGH MINIMUM WAGE.

I think we seriously need to abandon the concept of a living wage as a minimum wage. People working minimum wage in fast food chains aren't exactly looking to make a living. It's a part time job for extra $$$ and to build up their resume. Minimum wage should be tied to job market conditions rather than cost of living. If unemployment is high, lower minimum wage. Lower minimum wage can increase the number of positions available. I'm sure many unemployed people are happy to take a low paying job than being unemployed.

So lets see you pitch that suggestion to the Government of Canada and a good chunk of the working population. Let's see how everyone will react to your statement. I can for sure say that none of us will be all too happy. :)

And for what? The sake of lowering fast food prices? Really?

rjones416
Mar 7th, 2012, 02:06 AM
fast food prices are too much now. you might as well just pay an extra buck or two at one of those "gourmet" burger joints and get a much better combo.

IMWHFMPC
Mar 7th, 2012, 01:27 PM
just stay away from fast food... if you want good and healthy(no additives) burgers go to a decent restaurant

gilboman
Mar 7th, 2012, 01:34 PM
just stay away from fast food... if you want good and healthy(no additives) burgers go to a decent restaurant

LOL... you are forgetting the supposedly healthy (no additives which is just a marketing gimmick to scam guillable people) at those places are 3x the cost.

Gotta love how yo add "artisan" or "no additives" or "organic" and you get to sell the samething for 3x the price. There is no such thing as no additives or organic or artisan

time space
Mar 7th, 2012, 01:48 PM
Gotta love how yo add "artisan" or "no additives" or "organic" and you get to sell the samething for 3x the price.
I agree - that's marketing.



There is no such thing as no additives or organic or artisan
I disagree - that's tinfoilhatery.

IMWHFMPC
Mar 7th, 2012, 06:00 PM
LOL... you are forgetting the supposedly healthy (no additives which is just a marketing gimmick to scam guillable people) at those places are 3x the cost.

Gotta love how yo add "artisan" or "no additives" or "organic" and you get to sell the samething for 3x the price. There is no such thing as no additives or organic or artisan

you don't realize how much additives mcdonalds put in their beef patty and bread. Ive never seen any restaurant or fast food post up signs saying their burger has no additives. But what you get from the local store is vastly different than the supplier for mcdoanlds.

a normal beef patty you get from a decent restaurant are just plain minced beef + salt and pepper, and they don't keep them for long so there is no preservative.

gilboman
Mar 7th, 2012, 06:21 PM
you don't realize how much additives mcdonalds put in their beef patty and bread. Ive never seen any restaurant or fast food post up signs saying their burger has no additives. But what you get from the local store is vastly different than the supplier for mcdoanlds.

a normal beef patty you get from a decent restaurant are just plain minced beef + salt and pepper, and they don't keep them for long so there is no preservative.

more misconception and marketing propaganda. A mcdonald's beef patty does not have additives or preservatives, binders or fillers, not even in the 1.39 ones.

Hope you aren't that guillable all the time. No wonder there's all those people paying 3x as much for same crap. McDonald's beef patty is 100% beef, that's it. Salt and Pepper is added during cooking.

You really need to stop reading those chain emails lol

slowtyper
Mar 7th, 2012, 06:29 PM
more misconception and marketing propaganda. A mcdonald's beef patty does not have additives or preservatives, binders or fillers, not even in the 1.39 ones.

Hope you aren't that guillable all the time. No wonder there's all those people paying 3x as much for same crap. McDonald's beef patty is 100% beef, that's it. Salt and Pepper is added during cooking.

You really need to stop reading those chain emails lol

Still, low quality beef prepared badly. Yes you pay more for quality but there is a HUGE difference between the two products. Of course this is hard because there are so many restaurants and "gourmet burger place" putting out the same crappy frozen burgers and just calling them gourmet. But if you look closely you can find the ones grinding their own meat fresh every day. The difference in taste and texture is very clear.

I do like McDonalds, I have a soft spot for it because of memories of being a kid. I still enjoy eating it at times but there is no arguing that the doesn't meat tastes like squeaky cardboard. I've always wondered why it "squeaks" when you chew it.

IMWHFMPC
Mar 7th, 2012, 07:33 PM
more misconception and marketing propaganda. A mcdonald's beef patty does not have additives or preservatives, binders or fillers, not even in the 1.39 ones.

Hope you aren't that guillable all the time. No wonder there's all those people paying 3x as much for same crap. McDonald's beef patty is 100% beef, that's it. Salt and Pepper is added during cooking.

You really need to stop reading those chain emails lol

a mcdonald's beef patty does not have additives or preservatives!? god i'm truly amazed by how some people can think... so simple. american?

i don't even have to get it sent to the lab, i can TASTE the additives(aside from salt and pepper) in it.


(no additives which is just a marketing gimmick to scam guillable people)
Gotta love how yo add "artisan" or "no additives" or "organic" and you get to sell the samething for 3x the price. There is no such thing as no additives or organic or artisan

first you said no additives is a marketing gimmick, now you are saying mcdonalds patties have no additives, 100% beef. contradicting enough already? so you are those gullible people who got scammed?

gilboman
Mar 8th, 2012, 11:24 AM
a mcdonald's beef patty does not have additives or preservatives!? god i'm truly amazed by how some people can think... so simple. american?

i don't even have to get it sent to the lab, i can TASTE the additives(aside from salt and pepper) in it.



first you said no additives is a marketing gimmick, now you are saying mcdonalds patties have no additives, 100% beef. contradicting enough already? so you are those gullible people who got scammed?

Yes, no additives is a marketing gimmick, do you even know how to read?? I'm only saying they have no additives because you think they do when they don't.

So what additives can you taste with your amazing abilities??? Talk about placebo effect. I bet you taste the difference in "organic" as well lol

So yes, prove to me mcdonald's patty has additives and/or preservatives? please do ..seriously please.

So you must also believe the world is flat, the sun revolves around the earth. Because you don't take scientific fact or evdence but just what you believe? Are you also one of those idiotic republican as well? lol

when you read your stupid chain emails or atleast go on http://www.snopes.com/business/market/allbeef.asp
People are so damn stupid nowadays, believe all marketing and don't even take a second to fact check.

So what additives and preservatives are in a McDonald's beef patty but not at a nicer sit down restaurant as you say? lol

stupid people are pretty damn funny though, thanks for the early morning laugh and continual entertainment.

But I like helping out disadvantaged people, so tip of the day to you..look up what contradiction means. How could I be contradicting if I'm correcting one of your many false but amusing beliefs.

Ojam
Mar 8th, 2012, 03:38 PM
http://www.mcdonalds.com/us/en/food/food_quality/see_what_we_are_made_of/your_questions_answered/meats.html

Supercooled
Mar 8th, 2012, 05:57 PM
Bk whoppers also...bought two ang skimped on fries drink thinking id pay $6-7 tops... After tax over$10 for two whops.. No way dude!



Even Macca's is getting ridiculous. Went to the Brentwood Mall location the other day to get a Big Mac and was shocked to see it coming in at over $4.

Certainly isn't a bargain anymore, especially when you're getting two or three of them...

Dina_E
Mar 8th, 2012, 07:02 PM
We need to double prices of fast food. Look at sweden and nordic countries. A big mac combo is close to $15 and it shows in their population. Lowest amount of overweight and obese people.


Inb4 some idiot makes a comment on personal freedoms. Your personal freedom ends when I have to pay for your healthcare.

slowtyper
Mar 8th, 2012, 08:10 PM
We need to double prices of fast food. Look at sweden and nordic countries. A big mac combo is close to $15 and it shows in their population. Lowest amount of overweight and obese people.


Inb4 some idiot makes a comment on personal freedoms. Your personal freedom ends when I have to pay for your healthcare.

Why don't you compare prices of bigmacs in asian countries and correlate with their obesity levels? Some are cheaper than the US/Canada and obesity rates are much lower. Some are priced virtually the same and still have lower obesity rates.

Basically you can't compare canada/us to anyone else because no matter what they do or who they are, they all have lower obesity rates than us!

JubJubTartz
Mar 8th, 2012, 09:10 PM
more misconception and marketing propaganda. A mcdonald's beef patty does not have additives or preservatives, binders or fillers, not even in the 1.39 ones.

Hope you aren't that guillable all the time. No wonder there's all those people paying 3x as much for same crap. McDonald's beef patty is 100% beef, that's it. Salt and Pepper is added during cooking.

You really need to stop reading those chain emails lol

Sooo....can YOU prove that McDonald's beef patty does not have additives or preservatives? I mean, since you're going around asking people to prove that the patties do have those stuff, why not you prove that they don't?

Also, please answer this question. How do you suppose a Mcdonald BigMac can last weeks longer before molding than say...a mom and pop burger joint where the patties come from the supermarket? Maybe try that experiment and tell us how it goes, and what kind of answers you get. I'd like to know :)

Ojam
Mar 8th, 2012, 10:13 PM
Also, please answer this question. How do you suppose a Mcdonald BigMac can last weeks longer before molding than say...a mom and pop burger joint where the patties come from the supermarket? Maybe try that experiment and tell us how it goes, and what kind of answers you get. I'd like to know :)

This experiment has been done (http://aht.seriouseats.com/archives/2010/11/the-burger-lab-revisiting-the-myth-of-the-12-year-old-burger-testing-results.html), and the burger does mold.

The burgers are 100% beef and are flash frozen as soon as they are formed. Do you really think a company as large and public as McDonalds could get away with lying about that?

nalababe
Mar 9th, 2012, 12:59 AM
Lots of comments over this thread....

I will say that I was very surprised and impressed with the single with cheese that I had a few weeks ago. While I am a fan of South Street or Hero (or Licks), I was impressed. The burger was cooked perfectly, it was tasty and it was...very good. I haven't been wow'ed in a while...this was pretty good.

As and aside. Earlier in these posts, there was a comment as to why the US was cheaper than Canada. Not long ago, I was listening to a radio cast where the head of Boston Pizza was interviewed. A key question was why companies like Cheesecake Factory, Olive Garden etc did not succeed in Canada. He noted that the killer was that they had to purchase product in Canada and were not able to leverage US discounts. As a result, the restaurants could not meet the price point they had in the US. It just was not profitable in Canada.

gilboman
Mar 9th, 2012, 11:23 AM
Sooo....can YOU prove that McDonald's beef patty does not have additives or preservatives? I mean, since you're going around asking people to prove that the patties do have those stuff, why not you prove that they don't?

Also, please answer this question. How do you suppose a Mcdonald BigMac can last weeks longer before molding than say...a mom and pop burger joint where the patties come from the supermarket? Maybe try that experiment and tell us how it goes, and what kind of answers you get. I'd like to know :)

already answered, learn to read. Can't help you if I've given you the answer multiple times but you are illiterate

Rainne
Mar 9th, 2012, 12:20 PM
Fast food is produced by minimal wage labour. As min wages goes up, so does the price of fast food.

Also, McDonalds makes you fat. I don't know how else you'd argue..Burger + Fries + a soft drink = might as not eat for the rest of the day