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chaorenkrung
Jan 28th, 2012, 12:07 AM
Dentists in Canada are expensive.

I would probably never make this thread if it wasn't for the recent (was it CTV) propaganda from BC dental association bashing dental practices in Mexico. I am currently having some work done in Thailand (probably the best dental care you can get in the world) and will post the place and results once I have everything done. So far I had 2 fillings (80 bucks) cleaning which was very well done ($30) teeth whitening ($340) and have prepaid for a crown ($400).

Post away if you have been satisfied as well as places to avoid.

Kuurgen
Jan 28th, 2012, 10:27 PM
Dentists in Canada are expensive.

I would probably never make this thread if it wasn't for the recent (was it CTV) propaganda from BC dental association bashing dental practices in Mexico. I am currently having some work done in Thailand (probably the best dental care you can get in the world) and will post the place and results once I have everything done. So far I had 2 fillings (80 bucks) cleaning which was very well done ($30) teeth whitening ($340) and have prepaid for a crown ($400).


Post away if you have been satisfied as well as places to avoid.

Is your place in Chiangmai?


I can say with absolute certainty that Varadero Cuba is awful. Fillings fell out after 2 hours.

chaorenkrung
Jan 28th, 2012, 11:15 PM
I am in Bangkok.

A lot of dentists to choose from. Sometimes you pay extra for a marble or Star Trek lobby. I decided to go to Japanese area and have the work done as it was recommended by a Thai friend.

Kuurgen
Jan 28th, 2012, 11:46 PM
Do they have a website? Post details please!

sq380
Jan 30th, 2012, 10:15 AM
Wouldn't the cost of the flight and accommodation to these countries kill any potential savings? I am not sure what prices are for dental work in Canada as I have never had to pay for it.

slowtyper
Jan 30th, 2012, 12:54 PM
Wouldn't the cost of the flight and accommodation to these countries kill any potential savings? I am not sure what prices are for dental work in Canada as I have never had to pay for it.

Actually i've known quite a few people who do dental work overseas and with the hotel and plane ticket they still come out way ahead.

I actually have a big dental "need" to take care of...and no insurance...considering a trip but also kind of scared.

EDIT: I need four wisdom teeth removed, but 2 of them are impacted meaning they grow sideways. A family friend who is a dentist looked at them and said he never touches those kinds of wisdom teeth because its very close to a nerve that affects facial control, so he always recommends to a different oral surgeon who deals with those all the time.

Anyway he scared the **** out of me about getting it done whether with an experienced oral surgeon or not. Now to go get it done in thailand...I'm not sure...

ANyone have good links or a forum that deals with this stuff?

Kuurgen
Jan 30th, 2012, 03:53 PM
For an idea of rates, check this link: (check by phone if you intend to go there as the website may be out of date)

http://www.gracedentalclinic.com/pricelist-eng.html


Slowtyper, you can check out Trip Advisor,Lonely Planet and I believe it's Thorn Tree forums and do a search on dental in each countries respective forum.

Cheap
Jan 30th, 2012, 09:09 PM
Grace is probably the most expensive place in Chiang Mai, that price list looks current to me. It is a large, modern practice with many dentists working there. It is in a good location, easy to get to. Most of the dentists there have studied in Europe or NA. Recently some of the dentists left to start their own place but it is farther out of town, closer to some of the nicer gated communities where foreign workers and wealthy Thais live, not very convenient for tourists.

There are also dental units at some of the hospitals, I think there is even one hospital that is exclusively for dental work. There are many places and price ranges for dental work in Chiang Mai. As for accommodation, hotels range from $10 to $150 a night, depending on what you want. It isn't hard to find a decent place for $20 a night.

This is one of the hospitals that have a dental unit: http://www.mccormick.in.th/mc/eng/dental-en.html

silicontraveler
Jan 31st, 2012, 01:41 PM
good place is in Trivandrum, South India. You can stay at the beach in Varkala (http://varkala.mobi). Prices are cheaper, zircon crown are made in India cost $175. Have to make sure find top dentists in these countries. Education standards are very high in Canada. I had a root canal done by a guy who claims to have done over 20,000 successful root canals!

chaorenkrung
Feb 2nd, 2012, 10:58 PM
Satisfied with work. These women are pros. Like I said, no fancy lobby and the dentist is probably a little more expensive (the crown ended up costing close to $600). It gets a bit painful at first until doc puts the right amount of anesthetic. The name of the place is

Thaniya Dental Clinic inside Thaniya plaza on Silom BTS line (Sala Daeng). They only sell golf equipment for Japanese tourists here, so you can't miss it. The medical clinic is on the top floor.

Happy dental.

boyoflondon
Feb 3rd, 2012, 12:42 AM
Wouldn't the cost of the flight and accommodation to these countries kill any potential savings? I am not sure what prices are for dental work in Canada as I have never had to pay for it.

My dad had to have some major work done a couple of years ago, and despite his good coverage at work he would have had to dish out $5k out of his own pocket for it. He bought a plane ticket, went back home to eastern EU, and had everything fixed. Total of airfare + dentist was about $2500.

Dentists in Canada charge an arm and a leg. Simple cleaning which takes 45min and is not even done by the dentist can run $200-250, not to mention something bigger. My bestfriend is in the same position now where he would have to dish out $2k out of his own pocket for some work and he will most likely be going to Europe to get it fixed.

Paulfistinyourface
Feb 3rd, 2012, 11:31 AM
Actually i've known quite a few people who do dental work overseas and with the hotel and plane ticket they still come out way ahead.

I actually have a big dental "need" to take care of...and no insurance...considering a trip but also kind of scared.

EDIT: I need four wisdom teeth removed, but 2 of them are impacted meaning they grow sideways. A family friend who is a dentist looked at them and said he never touches those kinds of wisdom teeth because its very close to a nerve that affects facial control, so he always recommends to a different oral surgeon who deals with those all the time.

Anyway he scared the **** out of me about getting it done whether with an experienced oral surgeon or not. Now to go get it done in thailand...I'm not sure...

ANyone have good links or a forum that deals with this stuff?
Why in the hell would you go all the way to Thailand just to save $1500? That's just dumb. I got 4 of mine pulled in Nov 2010 for $1100 and missed half a day of work. My 16 year old daughter just had it done last month, same issues as you (none had erupted thru the gums yet, and 2 would come in sideways) and it cost $1500. She missed one day of school (the Friday it was done) and was back to school on Monday.

I go to a local dentist. He does excellent work, is highly trained, he went to school in Canada, receives ongoing training in Canada, everything in his office is sparkling clean, I understand him when he talks, he is a resident of my community, he employees other residents of our community, he pays taxes to the local community, and he donates his own time and expenses to help those less fortunate. All in all it's a good system and our community is a better because of him.

You guys need to see beyond your wallet for once in your life and take a look at the bigger picture. You're all a sorry excuse for a Canadian...Take take take when they're giving it out, but when it comes time to give back to your community you're all "hurrrrr, my wallet is nailed shut...I better go to some 3rd world country to get my chainsaw teeth fixed."

It's one thing to be FRUGAL, but you guys aren't frugal. You guys are CHEAP. There is a difference.

cleardevil
Feb 3rd, 2012, 01:12 PM
Yea I agree with the previous post.

4 impacted wisdom teeth extractions aren't even that expensive at oral surgeons in Ontario. Not worth the trip and the costs associated with hotel and airplane.

michiebaby
Feb 3rd, 2012, 02:35 PM
Could be worth it for people who are looking for a vacation or have to go back and see family. They will essentially be killing two birds with one stone....

nalababe
Feb 3rd, 2012, 09:40 PM
Wouldn't do it. To each their own.

One of the major causes for the spread of the Ndm-1 superbug was medical vacations to India.

Not saying that the doctors are bad, or treatment is lacking ...then again we sell to all countries world wide and many countries such as India, China, and Thailand are several generation behind with technology and practices...and yes, this includes brand new tenders, new hospitals. It also ranges from HIV treatment to basic tests like urinalysis and blood gas).

Kuurgen
Feb 4th, 2012, 03:46 AM
Why in the hell would you go all the way to Thailand just to save $1500? That's just dumb. I got 4 of mine pulled in Nov 2010 for $1100 and missed half a day of work. My 16 year old daughter just had it done last month, same issues as you (none had erupted thru the gums yet, and 2 would come in sideways) and it cost $1500. She missed one day of school (the Friday it was done) and was back to school on Monday.

I go to a local dentist. He does excellent work, is highly trained, he went to school in Canada, receives ongoing training in Canada, everything in his office is sparkling clean, I understand him when he talks, he is a resident of my community, he employees other residents of our community, he pays taxes to the local community, and he donates his own time and expenses to help those less fortunate. All in all it's a good system and our community is a better because of him.

You guys need to see beyond your wallet for once in your life and take a look at the bigger picture. You're all a sorry excuse for a Canadian...Take take take when they're giving it out, but when it comes time to give back to your community you're all "hurrrrr, my wallet is nailed shut...I better go to some 3rd world country to get my chainsaw teeth fixed."

It's one thing to be FRUGAL, but you guys aren't frugal. You guys are CHEAP. There is a difference.

I don't know how you equate going to the dentist as "giving back to your community".

I'm not sure what you mean by "take take take" or what people are taking by exploring their dentistry options abroad.

I completely agree with the comfort of using a local dentist so that you know that they adhere to Canadian standards.

However having said that, some procedures are prohibitively expensive, to the point where it may well be worth going overseas to save thousands of dollars. So long as you're happy with the standards of the dental office you visit, you can whine and moan about how going overseas to get work done is "taking", but then again I don't see you paying for anybody else's dental bill.

There is frugal and there is cheap. There is also being open-minded and close minded.

Have a great day.

Paulfistinyourface
Feb 4th, 2012, 10:16 AM
I don't know how you equate going to the dentist as "giving back to your community".
Think about the economics involved. You're own little neighbourhood has its own little economy.


I'm not sure what you mean by "take take take" or what people are taking by exploring their dentistry options abroad.
*sigh* Look beyond your wallet for once.

Sit down and think about it for a moment and it'll come to you. Think about all the things your community (and your country) gives you.

Think about it.


However having said that, some procedures are prohibitively expensive, to the point where it may well be worth going overseas to save thousands of dollars. So long as you're happy with the standards of the dental office you visit, you can whine and moan about how going overseas to get work done is "taking", but then again I don't see you paying for anybody else's dental bill.

ahahaaha. The canned RFD reponse: "I don't see you paying for it".

Again, look beyond your own wallet. Think about things on a bigger scale. Perhaps reading an Economics 101 book might help.


There is frugal and there is cheap. There is also being open-minded and close minded.Pfft. Open/closed minded has nothing to do with it. It's called looking at the bigger picture and doing what's right for your community.

You can try to justify it all you want, but deep down you know it's wrong.

silicontraveler
Feb 4th, 2012, 11:31 AM
Well Paul the dentists in Canada are the most expensive in the world. One problem is that dentist in Canada don't tell you that you should get implants due to the shock of the cost. If you where in India they pull the teeth and then do the implant at the same time because it is still fresh. 4 implants cost around $20,000 in Canada. In India obviously much less around 1/10th of the price. A lot of dental treatments don't work necessarily that long, you could have a $1200 crown in Canada that only lasts a few years. Your teeth will move if they have been extracted.

If dentist in Canada are so concerned about the 'community' why don't they do work cheaper? They is no reason why they need to charge 100's of dollars a hour.

VintagePhick
Feb 5th, 2012, 11:47 PM
I'm not sure if I agree with the logic that if you don't use a Canadian dentist then you don't care about your community. Using that logic nobody should do cross border shopping to save money. But I agree with a previous poster who said that it's only really worth it if you are going to be in the location for reasons outside of your med procedure.

Personally I wouldn't do it, way too much of a hassle but I do know people who went to Tijuana Mexico to have some dental work done and were satisfied. To each his own.

ramimer
Jul 15th, 2012, 04:01 PM
I just had an implant done in Thailand for $1400. Top service for 1/3 of Canadian price.

xcell
Jul 15th, 2012, 08:25 PM
I think the one problem I see is accountability...let's say something goes wrong. Now if it's a filling, then the cost wont be that much to have it fix back here in Canada. And I don't think you would fly back all the way just to complain. But if it was a root canal or a crown that are typically more expensive...doyou fly back when something is wrong? Most likely, you will pay the dentist or specialist that you didn't want to pay to do the work in the first place to fix what was done overseas and it will cost your more because it got worse...not in all caese but just the one. Plus how can you judge the quality of the work? No pain? That's one way but sometimes they may have left soemthing under the filling that won't cause a problem until you are safely back in Canada. Again, not saying that all Canadian dentist are great but if this happens in Canada, well, then you can at least complain to the dentist

In Canada, fees for dentist are regulated by the province and you may find some provinces less expensive than others. For example, the only province that does not have a set fee guide is Calgary, so you may find prices competitive. BUT on that note, since it's hard their to hire staff (or they have to pay them more than other provinces), they may charge more to compensate for that... You can always try dental schools, the prices are usually 50% less and they have to learn on someone...

Any ways, it's buyer beware...for somethings...I don't see the problem finding something less expensive, let's say a cleaning but for other things...well, I wouldnt risk it ..

Ps. if you want cheap dental cleanings - go to a hygiene school... I think it's like $50 or $75 for the entire cleaning and x-rays but you have to be there for $3 hours

coolspot
Jul 16th, 2012, 12:46 AM
Anyway he scared the **** out of me about getting it done whether with an experienced oral surgeon or not. Now to go get it done in thailand...I'm not sure...



You don't trust your dentist but you will trust an anonymous person on this forum? Genius :)

Why not get a consultation with the oral surgeon and see what he/she has to say?