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yao416

Feb 23rd, 2012, 11:32 PM

Right?

gotak

Feb 24th, 2012, 12:40 AM

Are you trying to start people flaming? Or are you seriously preved about siri as in you got a 4S and now you wonder what the fuss is all about?

dragon_drift

Feb 24th, 2012, 01:53 AM

Me: you suck siri!
siri: calling your mom nao.
me: :confused:

Jimboski

Feb 24th, 2012, 01:56 AM

Me : "Going to go do some runs and ****.."
Siri : "Can I get your location please"..
Me : ................... "closes It right away LOL."

mcg

Feb 24th, 2012, 01:57 AM

lol I used Siri mainly as a voice to speech converter for text messages

dragon_drift

Feb 24th, 2012, 02:37 AM

lol I used Siri mainly as a voice to speech converter for text messages

how accurate is it? :|

superbundance

Feb 24th, 2012, 02:54 AM

i do not care about siri... what I do not understand why andriod phones do not have visual voicemail.... apple has had for half a decade... what a joke

gotak

Feb 24th, 2012, 09:03 AM

i do not care about siri... what I do not understand why andriod phones do not have visual voicemail.... apple has had for half a decade... what a joke

They do actually. Just they made it something for the carriers to decide if they want to spend on and they all choose not to so far in Canada. For a long time you don't get VVM on other than rogers and fido. So I expect you'll see VVM for android in 2013 lol.

I don't actually have much of a problem after my switch to android without VVM. I actually don't mind how Roger's system sends me a text. It actually works quite well. Enough for me to get the idea if i want to call them back or not.

ceredon

Feb 24th, 2012, 09:09 AM

i do not care about siri... what I do not understand why andriod phones do not have visual voicemail.... apple has had for half a decade... what a joke
It's a carrier decision. Rogers and Fido just this week rolled out Visual Voicemail Plus for some Android and BB devices. Apple has usually made it a requirement for carriers to implement their VVM if they want to carry the iPhone as they consider it an important part of the user experience. I had it for a couple years but dropped it for Google Voice VM, which is just as good and in someways better (transcription is nice).

jonmar

Feb 28th, 2012, 12:18 AM

I use Siri all the time for voice to text. Even email dictation. My favorite though is telling Siri to remind me to do something when, where I want. Great feature.

superbundance

Feb 28th, 2012, 01:45 AM

siri for andriod... its called skyvi and it evens the playing field as it does everything siri does and does it well...

stenz

Feb 28th, 2012, 02:09 AM

siri for andriod... its called skyvi and it evens the playing field as it does everything siri does and does it well...

Personally, I think the voice actions that have existed on Android since the dawn of time do more than enough for me, I don't need to talk to my phone. Apple clearly created a demand for these personal assistants when it popularized Siri. I say created because the demand is not there, but now it is. Although Siri can do a lot of stuff, only a small percentage of it is actually useful/practical to use Siri for. The majority of Siri clones for Android are gimmicks, but since there is now a demand for this type of personal assistant software, Google is coming out with Majel.. I'll probably end up using it as much as I use voice actions (rarely) but it will still be cool to see Google's answer I guess.

superbundance

Feb 28th, 2012, 02:45 AM

Personally, I think the voice actions that have existed on Android since the dawn of time do more than enough for me, I don't need to talk to my phone. Apple clearly created a demand for these personal assistants when it popularized Siri. I say created because the demand is not there, but now it is. Although Siri can do a lot of stuff, only a small percentage of it is actually useful/practical to use Siri for. The majority of Siri clones for Android are gimmicks, but since there is now a demand for this type of personal assistant software, Google is coming out with Majel.. I'll probably end up using it as much as I use voice actions (rarely) but it will still be cool to see Google's answer I guess.

Cool is the key word... for the majority of people siri and siri clones are more entertainment and ego (look at what my phone can do) than practical and usefully feature that you would use on a daily basis.

Is there a real demand for this at its current level of development or is it "how come they have it and we don't" demand.

I understand the hype around this... we all important enough to need personal assistants.. right?

BobJJones

Feb 28th, 2012, 03:35 PM

uhh... siri's still in beta.. wait till its knowledge base grows and compounds, it will be great in a few years time.. apple's simplying planting the seeds right now

enhanced

Feb 28th, 2012, 04:07 PM

uhh... siri's still in beta.. wait till its knowledge base grows and compounds, it will be great in a few years time.. apple's simplying planting the seeds right now

It's not about any knowledge base. It's about the practicality of speaking to a device rather than inputting the actions by finger. I don't see what upgrade in Siri's "knowledge base" will make voice actions more desired that it becomes something truly game-changing. It's not going to somehow cook me dinner like a real personal assistant will it? And if Siri can somehow cook me dinner somewhere down the line, will I not be able to tell the iPhone to do so with a touch action?

If Siri's full potential is just assisting the user when their hands are tied (driving), then it will hardly be anything amazing.

Kris81

Feb 28th, 2012, 04:11 PM

You're right, I don't use siri. But, I went from a 32gb 3G to a 64gb 4S. More space for music, and my phone is a lot faster now. I'm quite happy with the upgrade.

shaolinmonk

Feb 28th, 2012, 06:05 PM

i don't use siri.. my friend rides a bike all some and can't live without it though.

time space

Mar 7th, 2012, 07:14 AM

No one ever dreamed of voice input for computers.

Sci-fi was never filled with visualizations of it.

Generations of inventors and programmers have not strived to make voice input a reality.

No one will ever want to have it on their mobile devices.

Voice input is not a game changer.

Mulder and Scully

Mar 7th, 2012, 08:55 AM

No one ever dreamed of voice input for computers.

Actually, Siri (when it works) is much more than just voice input.

Just like how iOS 4/5 can tell when your text messages and emails have phone numbers and dates, if you tell Siri, "Make an appointment with my brother for 6 pm," Siri will 1.) Add the appointment to Calendar; 2.) If your brother uses iCloud then iCloud will add the appointment to his iPhone in his Calendar as well.

Siri will also recognize that "My brother" is a specific person on your contact list due to past associations you've made with this contact. Similarly, after making the association you can say "Call my girlfriend," and Siri will know who it is.

With geolocation association (only available in America so far) you can tell Siri, "Remind me to buy milk when I get to the supermarket." Then, after prior making the association, when you get to the supermarket and Siri knows this via the GPS on your iPhone, a reminder will pop up telling you to buy milk.

Siri also adapts itself to your voice. Use it long enough and it'll pick up your slurred speech and slightly incorrect pronunciations and tones. Later give it to someone else to use and it won't work as well for them as it does to your voice.

Siri's strength isn't that it's voice input but rather that it 1.) cross references the commands you tell it and automatically includes anyone involved (if they use iCloud); and 2.) learns and adapts from your commands and specific voice. This is why Siri needs to connect back to its home servers rather than doing things instantly.

psyko514

Mar 7th, 2012, 11:59 AM

I don't know if I'd call it a game changer, but I believe Siri is useful. And as it starts to support more and more features & locations, it'll become more useful.

I don't believe that FaceTime is a game changer yet, though. I know very few people who have used it beyond a handful of test calls.

nyxeus

Mar 7th, 2012, 02:02 PM

Agreed, I haven't tried Siri at all even though I have the 4S for over 2 months now but I did spend time on other features.

CalgaryMan

Mar 7th, 2012, 02:10 PM

I got my iPhone 4S 16GB White almost 2 weeks ago on February 24 and I was playing with Siri constantly for the first couple of days. But now days, I barley use Siri. But I LOVE my new phone overall!!

gilboman

Mar 7th, 2012, 02:45 PM

You're right, I don't use siri. But, I went from a 32gb 3G to a 64gb 4S. More space for music, and my phone is a lot faster now. I'm quite happy with the upgrade.

but you still have a tiny screen?

light2

Mar 7th, 2012, 03:36 PM

lol. i have had to 4S for 3months now, never used SIRI ever.

but there is nothing to admit to as i did not buy the 4S to use SIRI.

hordosr

Mar 7th, 2012, 05:26 PM

my mom thinks i have a girlfriend named Siri now, that is what counts...Siri and I are going out to look for rings tonight, when i propose, I hope she says yes.

zonetbh

Mar 7th, 2012, 05:34 PM

I tried to use siri once on my wifes iphone and it didn't work, said it was sorry, but the server was overloaded or something like that. So then I told it to **** off and uninstall itself, and it said something funny back I don't remember what. What I do know is, much like every other voice command related application ive ever used it didn't work for **** and wasn't anything more then a gimmick.

ceredon

Mar 8th, 2012, 03:18 PM

What will be funny (as always) is when google bakes proper voice systems, on par or better than Apple, into Android, suddenly all these Android fans will see it as essential. Always seems to work that way. Early Android fans had a habit of poo-pooing iPhones for not having a keyboard, only because early Androids all relied on keyboards. It was a running theme that one needed a physical keyboard. Now they are almost nowhere to be found on high end Androids. Apps were considered irrelevant as long as Android had next to none. Now that they have many, they are all the rave.

And yes, Google is going to extend their voice systems. They've hired some of the people involved in the early SRI projects, which became Siri (and even Nuance).

time space

Mar 8th, 2012, 03:24 PM