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redflag5050
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:10 AM
Was watching CBC's Marketplace tonight with their take on prescription glasses outrageous ripoff. They compared clearly contacts with Lens crafters. Showed a bit of clearly contacts' premises and the claim by their CEO of them shipping 6-7 thousand orders a day. I have bought glasses from them and am satisfied but never knew they had those kind of numbers and I must say, I'm impressed.

Goonish
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:13 AM
Glad to see they're doing well. I've been nothing but satisfied with Clearly Contacts.

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 25th, 2012, 02:00 AM
Was watching CBC's Marketplace tonight with their take on prescription glasses outrageous ripoff. They compared clearly contacts with Lens crafters. Showed a bit of clearly contacts' premises and the claim by their CEO of them shipping 6-7 thousand orders a day. I have bought glasses from them and am satisfied but never knew they had those kind of numbers and I must say, I'm impressed.


if you look at their financial profile they are losing huge amount of money, i think something is wrong ..if they deliver 6000-7000 order every day why they are losing money each year...i dont know....it is confusing......I think these kinds of services will make a lot of health problems in future...We have only two eye to see and we should see specialist to take care of them...

bylo
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:21 AM
if you look at their financial profile they are losing huge amount of money, i think something is wrong...
And if you look at the poster's profile ("Join Date: Feb 25th, 2012... Posts: 1") you might think that something is wrong, i.e. that the poster is likely an optician, optomertrist or other competitor of Clearly Contacts with an axe to grind and FUD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt) to spread :rolleyes:

Ory
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:28 AM
They keep giving away free glasses, obviously they are losing money in the hopes of building a large customer base.

I would expect the 6-7k orders includes their contact lens business in Canada and the US as well.

FunSave22
Feb 25th, 2012, 10:28 AM
Coastal contacts, which owns Clearly Contacts, is a public company and their annual report is online.


http://investors.coastalcontacts.com/Theme/CoastalContacts/files/Q4 and Fiscal Year End 2011 MD & A_v001_g8j1yk.pdf


For the three months that ended October 2011, they shipped 227,000 glasses. That works about to around 2500 per day. I know they also advertise for every pair of their in-house frames you buy, they donate a pair to charity. I'm unsure if these charity pairs are included in the 227,000 number.


And they lost a small amount of money in 2011. Their total sales were $184 million and they lost $5 million. They say this is because of all of the promotions they are running and they don't seem concerned by the losses, as they have about $80 million in assets to draw from.

Wingding
Feb 25th, 2012, 11:56 AM
Link to the Marketplace-related print article on the CBC website:

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/02/23/marketplace-prescription-glasses.html

Ottomaddox
Feb 25th, 2012, 12:44 PM
LOL, maybe 7000 pairs on the freebie days. I doubt they are consistently doing that every day.

NG
Feb 25th, 2012, 01:16 PM
Kinda sleazy of Marketplace to complain about the price being above $100 despite advertising $50 glasses when there's so many mens (and even more for women and kids):

- 4 below $20 + $10 shipping
- 35 below $40 + $10 shipping
- 43 below $50 + $10 shipping

But kinda sleazy for them to auto check $30 worth of items under "CHOOSE YOUR COATINGS" settings.

Funny thing is in one of the reviews someone mentioned the $10 anti-scratch coating washed off with water when he was cleaning his glasses.

As such I suppose if I were to use one of these services I might as well get it from one of those Chinese sites mentioned in various hot deals threads to likely get better prices and selections.

NG
Feb 25th, 2012, 01:24 PM
i.e. that the poster is likely an optician, optomertrist or other competitor of Clearly Contacts with an axe to grind and FUD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt) to spread :rolleyes:

Yep. That's why even if I don't get my next pair of glasses online they'll be from a dollar store or Wal-Mart optical. So many douches out there trying to pad the bill...

I noticed that there has been a real lessening of competition for glasses the last few years (used to be a chain called Precision Optical that had good prices and selection but the local branch became a Lenscrafters a few years ago) but didn't realize that Lenscrafters, Sears Optical and Pearle Vision were all the same company.

I'm surprised that the insurance companies aren't doing something against this scam if the glasses are so cheap to make usually.

You'd think they would have been on the forefront of promoting customers getting cheaper glasses (offering cash back if they get them cheap online or at WM etc).

tablo13
Feb 25th, 2012, 01:26 PM
Isn't Zenni a good alternative too?

1226
Feb 25th, 2012, 01:59 PM
And if you look at the poster's profile ("Join Date: Feb 25th, 2012... Posts: 1") you might think that something is wrong, i.e. that the poster is likely an optician, optomertrist or other competitor of Clearly Contacts with an axe to grind and FUD (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fear,_uncertainty_and_doubt) to spread :rolleyes:

+1 so obvious :rolleyes:

sandy_beach
Feb 25th, 2012, 03:41 PM
I watched the show and at the end of it all, It came off to me as if they were just promoting Clearly Contacts. Maybe they weren't but it's quite lazy reporting on their part since they chose to compare only Lenscrafters and CC. They didn't bother covering other places such as Costco which is supposed to have the best quality/value as well as any other retailers they could have done. Furthermore, just like the Lenscrafters VP said; designer brands are always going to cost allot more (Chanel, Armani, Emporio Armani, D&G etc..). Anything made by designers like that are always such extremely marked up regardless of the product and company making it. It's nothing new and I didn't think the show accomplished much.

Just my opinion

redflag5050
Feb 25th, 2012, 03:59 PM
Hopefully this CBC report will make people think twice about where they get their glasses from. Maybe this will drive prices down to a logical level. I worked for a lens manufacturer and used to get my glasses for free once a year. Whenever I passed by an optical store, and after seeing their prices, I could not help but think of them as thieves. The prices are absolutely outrageous and a complete ripoff. I still get my free glasses but would never buy anything from the stores.

They say the prices for the "designer" frames will always cost more but how am I to know the frames are genuine and not knockoffs?I have bought from clearly contacts twice already and the price was reasonable at about $220 and am happy with my purchase. Never spend more than $300 for a top tier pair of prescription. Anything more is price gouging.

bylo
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:02 PM
I'm due for an eye exam and new glasses this spring. Last time I got the exam and glasses at the UW Optometry school that was featured in the show. The prescription they gave me didn't include PD and I didn't know enough to ask. This time I do and I will, if for no other reason than to hear their hems and haws and excuses :twisted:

The glasses I got last time included generic $85 frames. The lenses are trifocal(*). They cost another $330 including grinding, UV, SR, etc. coatings as well as fitting and adjustments. While that's higher than Clearly Contacts, it's probably less than what I would have paid at Lenscrafters. Besides CC doesn't offer trifocals at any price, probably because they're too hard to measure and fit properly on an online site.

(*) I prefer trifocals over progressives because they have a wider field of view. That's particularly important if you spend a lot of time in front of a computer monitor, especially now that 16:9 aspect ratio is standard.)

NG
Feb 25th, 2012, 04:41 PM
I watched the show and at the end of it all, It came off to me as if they were just promoting Clearly Contacts. Maybe they weren't but it's quite lazy reporting on their part since they chose to compare only Lenscrafters and CC. They didn't bother covering other places such as Costco which is supposed to have the best quality/value as well as any other retailers they could have done. Furthermore, just like the Lenscrafters VP said; designer brands are always going to cost allot more (Chanel, Armani, Emporio Armani, D&G etc..). Anything made by designers like that are always such extremely marked up regardless of the product and company making it. It's nothing new and I didn't think the show accomplished much.

Just my opinion

I could see forgetting Costco since it's somewhat of an isolated retailer. I didn't even know they sold glasses.

Although I thought they seemed kinda harsh on Clearly Contacts on the broader level if this spawns more prov's to adopt similar, more liberal, rules for getting glasses in Canada like in B.C. I could see the episode benefiting CC in the long term.

avp77
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:32 PM
I'm guessing that number includes their international shipments - as others have mentioned, they have a Costal glasses site that's for the entire world, but it pretty much the same. And by 'shipping per day' they probably only count 5 days in a week.

I ordered a set of glasses from Clearly Contacts, with the free frames, but it came out to about $150 since I need high-index lenses. Zenni Optical is actually much cheaper if you need more add-on stuff, I actually like the pair I got from there a bit better. Seems they only have generic frames, though.

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:38 PM
there are many retail store which sell contact lenses and eyeglasses cheaper than clearly contacs and they have 2 year warranty and really good service.I dont know why you are trying to convince people that clearly contacts is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!they are giving thousands of free frames to get """like in facebook""" ...thats it....nothing else .....for buying eyeglasses you should try them and you should have 2 yrs warranty....in the meantime why there is cheap and expensicve Camera?? expensive Camera has better lenses....you get what you pay............I asked one of my close friend he is managing a pizza shop...i aksed him how much is the cost of large pizza in your shop and how much you sell it??? you know what answer was???!!! the cost is $2.5 but they sell it $25....this is same in any other business such as mechanic shop, plumbing business, hair dressing.....etc...But if i want to buy eyeglasses i will buy from Lenscrafter than clearly contacts....you know why??? because of the service and quality....i am not too rich to buy cheap eyeglasses!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Red_Army
Feb 25th, 2012, 06:50 PM
there are many retail store which sell contact lenses and eyeglasses cheaper than clearly contacs and they have 2 year warranty and really good service.I dont know why you are trying to convince people that clearly contacts is the best!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!they are giving thousands of free frames to get """like in facebook""" ...thats it....nothing else .....for buying eyeglasses you should try them and you should have 2 yrs warranty....in the meantime why there is cheap and expensicve Camera?? expensive Camera has better lenses....you get what you pay............I asked one of my close friend he is managing a pizza shop...i aksed him how much is the cost of large pizza in your shop and how much you sell it??? you know what answer was???!!! the cost is $2.5 but they sell it $25....this is same in any other business such as mechanic shop, plumbing business, hair dressing.....etc...But if i want to buy eyeglasses i will buy from Lenscrafter than clearly contacts....you know why??? because of the service and quality....i am not too rich to buy cheap eyeglasses!!!!!!!!!!!!!

So you think an 800% markup is fair?

FunSave22
Feb 25th, 2012, 07:12 PM
But if i want to buy eyeglasses i will buy from Lenscrafter than clearly contacts
Why would you buy from Lenscrafter? You appear to own your own store.


A quick search on your user name brings up a couple of links.

This one indicates that you are a dispensing optician: http://www.optiboard.com/forums/member.php/13958-mtoudehfallah
The search also brings up your likely full name of morteza toudehfallah


And if I search for morteza toudehfallah, it brings up this article which indicates that you are the owner of Rumi Optical on Denman: http://www.wevancouver.com/news/136346118.html


So I'm sure not sure why you would be heading to LensCrafters to buy glasses. Don't you get some type of employee discount from buying from the store you own?

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:12 PM
So you think an 800% markup is fair?

High end brand frames average cost is $150-$200 and lenscrafter selling those$220-$300 that means approxmiately %100 mark up. but Clearly contact average frame cost is (Based on CBC Marketplace) $5-$20 then they sell it between $30-$140 dollar, and this means they mark up %400-%700, so please let me know who is making more money?please be smart....thanks

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 25th, 2012, 09:18 PM
Why would you buy from Lenscrafter? You appear to own your own store.


A quick search on your user name brings up a couple of links.

This one indicates that you are a dispensing optician: http://www.optiboard.com/forums/member.php/13958-mtoudehfallah
The search also brings up your likely full name of morteza toudehfallah


And if I search for morteza toudehfallah, it brings up this article which indicates that you are the owner of Rumi Optical on Denman: http://www.wevancouver.com/news/136346118.html


So I'm sure not sure why you would be heading to LensCrafters to buy glasses. Don't you get some type of employee discount from buying from the store you own?

It doesnot matter who i am......if you dont have any answer please just read all comments and make your judgment...doesnot matter who is commenting...it matter you answer my question....If Optical business continue like this in future i am sure consumer will lose more than others because of losing quality and professionality...

Ottomaddox
Feb 25th, 2012, 10:49 PM
It doesnot matter who i am......i

Yes, yes it does.

I don't think this reflects well on 'Rumi Optical on Denman'. Do you withhold information from your customers?

Jaytee
Feb 25th, 2012, 11:24 PM
It doesnot matter who i am......if you dont have any answer please just read all comments and make your judgment...doesnot matter who is commenting...it matter you answer my question....If Optical business continue like this in future i am sure consumer will lose more than others because of losing quality and professionality...

You need to work on the quality and professionality of your posts. The beauty of RFD it is educates consumers for those who seek it. The optical business is welcome to continue to try to push their high profit margins but RFDers realize there are much cheaper alternatives like Clearly Contacts and Costco.

The internet and education has killed off or redefined many traditional businesses. I don't see why the optical business should be any different.

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 25th, 2012, 11:29 PM
Yes, yes it does.

I don't think this reflects well on 'Rumi Optical on Denman'. Do you withhold information from your customers?

please review my comments and then tell me if i am wrong or right......doesnot matter who is writting....I am trynig to talk about the facts......this is the discussion forum and it means we share our idea and discuss based on our reasons....please dont change the rule.....Please explain to me which part of my previous comments isnot right???

Morphius909
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:23 AM
please review my comments and then tell me if i am wrong or right......doesnot matter who is writting....I am trynig to talk about the facts......this is the discussion forum and it means we share our idea and discuss based on our reasons....please dont change the rule.....Please explain to me which part of my previous comments isnot right???


There are a lot of people on here that have insider scoops and talk about ACTUAL FACTS.

Unfortunately you do not. Fact is Optical wear is marked up big time...no different then a lot of consumer products to be fair.

You defending it does not help your cause, nor will anyone take you seriously.

Reality is consumers can get equal quality lens/frames/lens if they are smart. CC is one option of many.

RFD is meant to inform consumers, with tips, tricks, deals and info. You bashing CC without any real logic is a FAIL.

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:32 AM
You need to work on the quality and professionality of your posts. The beauty of RFD it is educates consumers for those who seek it. The optical business is welcome to continue to try to push their high profit margins but RFDers realize there are much cheaper alternatives like Clearly Contacts and Costco.

The internet and education has killed off or redefined many traditional businesses. I don't see why the optical business should be any different.

yes, you are right....I agree...Internet killed off and redefined many things.....In many aspects .....but there are many negative aspects as well .... please dont forget Internet made millions of dollars for Asian Companies who sells knockoff or fake products through online business that you never ever paid money for those if you could see them before making any order.....You know how many great designers lost their job and life because of this issue???Designer spent their money ,talent and time to create something but others copied knockoff one and sold them cheaper through internet.... just i remind you that a part of the truth is with us not all.....if you compare price lists of eyeglasses and contact lenses of Clearly contacts during last couple years you will see they are raising the price slowly and if they could have the optical market in their hand!!!! they will sell their products as expensive as Lenscrafter...Competition is always good because make the market price more fair....

Red_Army
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:38 AM
Why would you buy from Lenscrafter? You appear to own your own store.


A quick search on your user name brings up a couple of links.

This one indicates that you are a dispensing optician: http://www.optiboard.com/forums/member.php/13958-mtoudehfallah
The search also brings up your likely full name of morteza toudehfallah


And if I search for morteza toudehfallah, it brings up this article which indicates that you are the owner of Rumi Optical on Denman: http://www.wevancouver.com/news/136346118.html


So I'm sure not sure why you would be heading to LensCrafters to buy glasses. Don't you get some type of employee discount from buying from the store you own?

Lmao, busted

Snickles
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:30 AM
But if i want to buy eyeglasses i will buy from Lenscrafter than clearly contacts....you know why??? because of the service and quality....i am not too rich to buy cheap eyeglasses!!!!!!!!!!!!!

You’re a dispensing optician and you own an eye-wear outlet, but you won’t buy cheap eyeglasses? That makes no sense. If you’re a dispensing optician, you ALREADY get cheap eyeglasses, don’t you? Oops, you’re not an eyeglass consumer.

zoro69
Feb 26th, 2012, 12:21 PM
High end brand frames average cost is $150-$200 and lenscrafter selling those$220-$300 that means approxmiately %100 mark up. but Clearly contact average frame cost is (Based on CBC Marketplace) $5-$20 then they sell it between $30-$140 dollar, and this means they mark up %400-%700, so please let me know who is making more money?please be smart....thanks

Except lensecrafter buys them from themself. All those designer brands are either owned by parent luxottica or have licensed their designer brand to them to slap on glasses they make at very low cost.

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:06 PM
There are a lot of people on here that have insider scoops and talk about ACTUAL FACTS.

Unfortunately you do not. Fact is Optical wear is marked up big time...no different then a lot of consumer products to be fair.

You defending it does not help your cause, nor will anyone take you seriously.

Reality is consumers can get equal quality lens/frames/lens if they are smart. CC is one option of many.

RFD is meant to inform consumers, with tips, tricks, deals and info. You bashing CC without any real logic is a FAIL.
Safety of eyeglasses ordered online is questioned

Tuesday, October 25, 2011
In the United States, a joint study conducted by the American Optometric Association, the Optical Laboratories Association, and The Vision Council questions the safety of prescription eyeglasses ordered online.

The study looked at 200 pairs of glasses for adults and for children ordered over a two-month period in 2010, from 10 of America’s most visited online optical vendors. The researchers received and analyzed a total of 154 pairs of glasses.

Upon arrival, 44.8% of the eyewear had incorrect prescriptions or did not meet physical parameters, including lenses that were not impact resistant. In 29% of cases, at least one lens did not meet the parameters of the prescription. Nearly a quarter of lenses failed impact testing, based on centre thickness and lens treatment. Of the children’s glasses, 29% failed impact testing.

According to the authors, the study shows that consumers lured by the low prices advertised on these sites risk receiving products that are unsatisfactory in terms of quality, value or safety.

Source: http://download.journals.elsevierhealth.com/pdfs/journals/1529-1839/PIIS1529183911004064.pdf

Snickles
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:21 PM
Safety of eyeglasses ordered online is questioned

I would question the validity of any study funded by organizations that have a vested financial interest in the outcome. The American Optometric Association, the Optical Laboratories Association, and The Vision Council?

bylo
Feb 26th, 2012, 01:54 PM
please review my comments and then tell me if i am wrong or right......doesnot matter who is writting....I am trynig to talk about the facts......this is the discussion forum and it means we share our idea and discuss based on our reasons.
Actually it matters a lot who's writing. When someone in the industry with a vested interest or conflict of interest posts something without first disclosing their affiliation then what they write should always be taken with extreme suspicion and skepticism. But when someone in the same situation discloses their industry affiliation when they present their "facts" then readers of their post are more likely to take what they write seriously. They may even see that poster as an authoritative expert on the subject.

You sir, chose the former path. Now you shouldn't be surprised by the negative reaction that tactic has resulted in for you.


Safety of eyeglasses ordered online is questioned...To your credit you did divulge the source of that study. I'm inclined to believe that there's at least some element of validity to it, although obviously the study sponsors did have a vested interest to come up with the results they did.

That said, the Marketplace program to which this thread refers showed two pairs of glasses. made from the same prescription, to an optometry professor at UW. One pair was made by CC and the other by Lenscrafters. They didn't tell him which was which. He subjected both pairs to a battery of tests but couldn't find any significant difference in quality between the two. Granted, that's a sample of one. And granted other low-cost online vendors may indeed sell products of inferior quality. But to suggest that many, if not all, such vendors dispense subquality products is an exercise in FUD, a tactic that's commonly employed by high-priced sellers who can't defend their high prices in any other legitimate way.

bylo
Feb 26th, 2012, 03:28 PM
One more thing. From the abstract of the cited article:
BACKGROUND: This study investigated prescription spectacles ordered from online vendors and delivered directly to the public for compliance with the optical tolerance and impact resistance requirements for eyewear dispensed in the United States...

CONCLUSION: Nearly half of prescription spectacles delivered directly by online vendors did not meet either the optical requirements of the patient’s visual needs or the physical requirements for the patient’s safety.
Note that the scope of this study was restricted to eyeglasses that were purchased online. The study didn't purchase any eyeglasses from bricks-and-mortar dispensing optician. So we have no idea how the results would differ if the same evaluation of optical tolerance and impact resistance was applied to eyeglasses purchased from conventional hands-on opticians. For all we know the results might be similar or could even be worse.

Of course the study's sponsors and the poster who provided the link want you to assume that conventional hands-on opticians would do a better job. But this study offers no direct proof that they actually do.

Ottomaddox
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:27 PM
please review my comments and then tell me if i am wrong or right......doesnot matter who is writting....I am trynig to talk about the facts......this is the discussion forum and it means we share our idea and discuss based on our reasons....please dont change the rule.....Please explain to me which part of my previous comments isnot right???

Do you work for 'Rumi Optical on Denman'?

Please clear this up.

NG
Feb 26th, 2012, 04:50 PM
...

Perhaps we should all avoid small time outfits like Rumi Optical in favour of major industry players like Lenscrafters, Sears Optical and Pearle Optical.

After all how can we trust the quality control of some random, small time, operator compared to the industry standards of established companies?

Ottomaddox
Feb 26th, 2012, 05:15 PM
they are giving thousands of free frames to get """like in facebook""" ...thats it....nothing else .....

Hmmm, I see that Rumi Optical ran these hot deals. Why do you have an issue with Clearly Contacts giving away frames when you did something similar, several times?


HOT DEAL: Rumi Optical - $25 For $150 Worth Of Designer Prescription Eyeglasses And Prescription Sunglasses! (Save $125 or 83% Off)



HOT DEAL REMINDER: Rumi Optical - $19 for $100 Towards The Purchase of Sunglasses Or Complete Eye-Glasses (Save 81% Off)


1 Year Supply of Prescription Contact Lenses and a Fitting
Rumi Optical
Discount: 86%
Deal price: $25
Savings: $155

Kuurgen
Feb 26th, 2012, 08:01 PM
If you haven't checked the comments section of that Marketplace piece, you can see that the opticians are out in force. Never have I seen so many comments on what doom and gloom will befall you if you buy something online.
BTW -Love my glasses from online.

From the Marketplace comments forum:


It is my understanding that certain provincial optometrist societies are sending out frequent notices to their members regarding this Marketplace investigation. These notices encourage members to come to this form and "inform" the public about the "dangers" of purchasing glasses and contacts online.

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 26th, 2012, 09:15 PM
Hmmm, I see that Rumi Optical ran these hot deals. Why do you have an issue with Clearly Contacts giving away frames when you did something similar, several times?

PLEASE DONT BE CURIOUS WHO I AM...I DONT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH CLEARLY CONTACTS......ACTUALLY CLEARLY CONTACTS(cc) STARTED A NEW REVOULATION IN HIS BUSINESS WHICH IS HONOURABLE...CC REDUCED THE EXPENSE OF EYEWEAR...

Ottomaddox
Feb 26th, 2012, 10:20 PM
PLEASE DONT BE CURIOUS WHO I AM...I DONT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH CLEARLY CONTACTS......ACTUALLY CLEARLY CONTACTS(cc) STARTED A NEW REVOULATION IN HIS BUSINESS WHICH IS HONOURABLE...CC REDUCED THE EXPENSE OF EYEWEAR...

Why won't you admit you work for 'Rumi Optical on Denman'?

Here's an interesting fact; the more times we mention 'Rumi Optical on Denman', to higher it will rank on google.
Everyone will see your posts, and wonder why this guy is so defensive, and evasive.

DarkCanuck
Feb 26th, 2012, 10:48 PM
Why won't you admit you work for 'Rumi Optical on Denman'?

Here's an interesting fact; the more times we mention 'Rumi Optical on Denman', to higher it will rank on google.
Everyone will see your posts, and wonder why this guy is so defensive, and evasive.

I was just about to head to Rumi Optical on Denman this week to check out their selection but I think I'll go with Clearly Contacts after reading this thread. ;)

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 26th, 2012, 10:54 PM
Why won't you admit you work for 'Rumi Optical on Denman'?

Here's an interesting fact; the more times we mention 'Rumi Optical on Denman', to higher it will rank on google.
Everyone will see your posts, and wonder why this guy is so defensive, and evasive.

I amnot defensive and evasive...I am telling cc and lenscrafter both are doing their business.....i left the following comment:

''''High end brand frames average cost is $150-$200 and lenscrafter selling those$220-$300 that means approxmiately %100 mark up. but Clearly contact average frame cost is (Based on CBC Marketplace) $5-$20 then they sell it between $30-$140 dollar, and this means they mark up %400-%700, so please let me know who is making more money?please be smart....thanks

and """ZORO69"""replied:
Except lensecrafter buys them from themself. All those designer brands are either owned by parent luxottica or have licensed their designer brand to them to slap on glasses they make at very low cost.

I should tell you LUXOTTICA paying millions dollar to designer to keep their license to sell their products....that means even LUXATTICA isnot making huge money...but CC doesnot need to pay those kind of money ....

I still believe CC has more mark up than Lenscrafter...this is all that i am trying to tell...and a again i dont have any problem with cc and i am someone like anybodyelse who likes to share her/his idea....nothing more...

flyz
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:06 PM
First rule on the internet is don't piss it off because it'll come back at you, or at least don't use the same username over many different forums :razz:

Tread lightly on the internets.

Ottomaddox
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:13 PM
I amnot defensive and evasive...

Do you work for 'Rumi Optical on Denman'?

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 26th, 2012, 11:35 PM
First rule on the internet is don't piss it off because it'll come back at you, or at least don't use the same username over many different forums :razz:

Tread lightly on the internets.

i dont undrestand you....doesnot matter who i am....i am sharing my idea .....do you have any answer to my questions?If yes please go a head....these are the summary of my comments and my answers....if you think i am wrong please let me know.Thanks....
.....I amnot defensive and evasive...I am telling cc and lenscrafter both are doing their business.....i left the following comment:

''''High end brand frames average cost is $150-$200 and lenscrafter selling those$220-$300 that means approxmiately %100 mark up. but Clearly contact average frame cost is (Based on CBC Marketplace) $5-$20 then they sell it between $30-$140 dollar, and this means they mark up %400-%700, so please let me know who is making more money?please be smart....thanks

and """ZORO69"""replied:
Except lensecrafter buys them from themself. All those designer brands are either owned by parent luxottica or have licensed their designer brand to them to slap on glasses they make at very low cost.

I should tell you LUXOTTICA paying millions dollar to designer to keep their license to sell their products....that means even LUXATTICA isnot making huge money...but CC doesnot need to pay those kind of money ....

I still believe CC has more mark up than Lenscrafter...this is all that i am trying to tell...and a again i dont have any problem with cc and i am someone like anybodyelse who likes to share her/his idea....nothing more...

Lenscrafter selling highend brand ant those should be more expensive than no name and knockoff one...in the meantime buying real brand name means we are supporting talented designer to make our life more exciting....Talented designer desire to make money according to their creation.....

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 27th, 2012, 12:55 AM
I was just about to head to Rumi Optical on Denman this week to check out their selection but I think I'll go with Clearly Contacts after reading this thread. ;)

lol

sandy_beach
Feb 27th, 2012, 04:23 PM
Do you work for 'Rumi Optical on Denman'?

Please clear this up.

He not only works there, but he owns the place! According to the WHOIS of rumioptical.com, the domain is owned by toudehfallah, morteza of Rumi Optical on Denman St.

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:01 PM
He not only works there, but he owns the place! According to the WHOIS of rumioptical.com, the domain is owned by toudehfallah, morteza of Rumi Optical on Denman St.

You are still looking to find out who i am.......you are funny....I amnot the one you found him out....

Ottomaddox
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:39 PM
He not only works there, but he owns the place! According to the WHOIS of rumioptical.com, the domain is owned by toudehfallah, morteza of Rumi Optical on Denman St.

So you're saying that morteza toudehfallah not only works at, but owns 'Rumi Optical on Denman'?

That's interesting.

It looks like he has a nice boat.

milhaus
Feb 27th, 2012, 09:55 PM
This is a hilarious thread. I'm sorry, but there is NO optician - small or large - that sells contacts cheaper than you can get them from Clearly Contacts. Visit the PM thread and you'll see that's true. No retail shop even comes close to those prices, and every time I see someone buying from a B&M store, I cringe.

O1IN85
Feb 27th, 2012, 10:36 PM
I ordered a pair of glasses from them last month and I was floored on their turnover time. I had the pair at my doorstep in 2 business days (well, I don't have a complicated presc, but which brick and mortar store will do that w/o charging extra?)

sandy_beach
Feb 28th, 2012, 12:04 AM
You are still looking to find out who i am.......you are funny....I amnot the one you found him out....

I'm not really that funny actually. It's funny that you just don't state that you are from Rumi Optical. Your username says it all. Sigh, I totally wanted to buy some frames at Rumi Optical but I will go somewhere else since you mentioned that many retail stores will sell lenses and frames cheaper than CC, plus they have good service to boot! Could you please post the "many" retail stores selling lenses and frames cheaper than CC? I'm sure lots of people would love to know in-order to get the best deal!

bylo
Feb 28th, 2012, 09:09 AM
You are still looking to find out who i am.
Your reading on my credibility meter (range 0 to +9) is now down to -2 and trending even lower.

ashgotti
Feb 28th, 2012, 11:11 AM
This is a hilarious thread. I'm sorry, but there is NO optician - small or large - that sells contacts cheaper than you can get them from Clearly Contacts. Visit the PM thread and you'll see that's true. No retail shop even comes close to those prices, and every time I see someone buying from a B&M store, I cringe.

This is not true. *Warning - I work for Laurier Optical HO* Compare: http://www.clearlycontacts.ca/contact-lenses/acuvue-oasys/prod91399.html?ilid=tnav VS http://laurier-optical.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Picture-4.jpg.

HowEver
Feb 28th, 2012, 12:50 PM
I'm pretty sure the last time I was in your store, I saw you ordering glasses and contacts from clearlycontacts.ca .

Prove me wrong....


You are still looking to find out who i am.......you are funny....I amnot the one you found him out....

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 28th, 2012, 03:43 PM
This is a hilarious thread. I'm sorry, but there is NO optician - small or large - that sells contacts cheaper than you can get them from Clearly Contacts. Visit the PM thread and you'll see that's true. No retail shop even comes close to those prices, and every time I see someone buying from a B&M store, I cringe.

Costco and walmart selling even cheaper than online.....I am sure......

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 28th, 2012, 03:45 PM
I'm pretty sure the last time I was in your store, I saw you ordering glasses and contacts from clearlycontacts.ca .

Prove me wrong....

I usually dont order anything online....I like to pay a little bit more and get better service.....I order my glasses from Lenscrafter...because i love to wear highend and high quality....

Red_Army
Feb 28th, 2012, 03:47 PM
I usually dont order anything online....I like to pay a little bit more and get better service.....I order my glasses from Lenscrafter...because i love to wear highend and high quality....

Lol

MTOUDEHFALLAH
Feb 28th, 2012, 03:52 PM
i dont undrestand you....doesnot matter who i am....i am sharing my idea .....do you have any answer to my questions?If yes please go a head....these are the summary of my comments and my answers....if you think i am wrong please let me know.Thanks....
.....I amnot defensive and evasive...I am telling cc and lenscrafter both are doing their business.....i left the following comment:

''''High end brand frames average cost is $150-$200 and lenscrafter selling those$220-$300 that means approxmiately %100 mark up. but Clearly contact average frame cost is (Based on CBC Marketplace) $5-$20 then they sell it between $30-$140 dollar, and this means they mark up %400-%700, so please let me know who is making more money?please be smart....thanks

and """ZORO69"""replied:
Except lensecrafter buys them from themself. All those designer brands are either owned by parent luxottica or have licensed their designer brand to them to slap on glasses they make at very low cost.

I should tell you LUXOTTICA paying millions dollar to designer to keep their license to sell their products....that means even LUXATTICA isnot making huge money...but CC doesnot need to pay those kind of money ....

I still believe CC has more mark up than Lenscrafter...this is all that i am trying to tell...and a again i dont have any problem with cc and i am someone like anybodyelse who likes to share her/his idea....nothing more...

Lenscrafter selling highend brand ant those should be more expensive than no name and knockoff one...in the meantime buying real brand name means we are supporting talented designer to make our life more exciting....Talented designer desire to make money according to their creation.....

1226
Feb 28th, 2012, 04:29 PM
This is not true. *Warning - I work for Laurier Optical HO* Compare: http://www.clearlycontacts.ca/contact-lenses/acuvue-oasys/prod91399.html?ilid=tnav VS http://laurier-optical.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Picture-4.jpg.

"only valid until January 31, 2012"

http://laurier-optical.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Picture-4.jpg

ashgotti
Feb 28th, 2012, 05:25 PM
"only valid until January 31, 2012"

http://laurier-optical.com/wp-content/uploads/2012/01/Picture-4.jpg

Sorry, if you go directly to the website/specials, you'll see that it's been extended.

caltran
Feb 28th, 2012, 06:02 PM
Coastal contacts, which owns Clearly Contacts, is a public company and their annual report is online.


http://investors.coastalcontacts.com/Theme/CoastalContacts/files/Q4 and Fiscal Year End 2011 MD & A_v001_g8j1yk.pdf


For the three months that ended October 2011, they shipped 227,000 glasses. That works about to around 2500 per day. I know they also advertise for every pair of their in-house frames you buy, they donate a pair to charity. I'm unsure if these charity pairs are included in the 227,000 number.


And they lost a small amount of money in 2011. Their total sales were $184 million and they lost $5 million. They say this is because of all of the promotions they are running and they don't seem concerned by the losses, as they have about $80 million in assets to draw from.

You're not reading their report properly. They only have $16.9million in cash and cash equivalents. The $80million in assets number will include things like office equipment, etc that are necessary for the operation of the company and can't be sold to keep the operation running.

NG
Feb 28th, 2012, 06:36 PM
Sorry, if you go directly to the website/specials, you'll see that it's been extended.

So you're comparing your stores sale prices with Clearly Contacts every day price? That's not really a fair comparison.

stuntman
Feb 28th, 2012, 09:59 PM
PLEASE DONT BE CURIOUS WHO I AM...I DONT HAVE ANY PROBLEM WITH CLEARLY CONTACTS......ACTUALLY CLEARLY CONTACTS(cc) STARTED A NEW REVOULATION IN HIS BUSINESS WHICH IS HONOURABLE...CC REDUCED THE EXPENSE OF EYEWEAR...


I think people know who you are. No need to guess or be curious about it. I am thinking that people don't trust you so you will continue to get a hard time. Still post away, it is interesting.

sm

fergy
Feb 28th, 2012, 11:26 PM
Prices have gone up at Coastal/Clearly contacts.

I paid $6.95 each for 5 pairs of clearance glasses, each with anti-reflective coat, anti-scratch coat, UV coat, 1.61 High Index lens, case, screwdriver and cleaning cloth.

$34.75 for five pairs at $6.95 each
$344.50 current price for five pairs at $68.90 each - They now charge extra for coatings and high index lens.
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$309.75 difference

My replacement costs at Coastal/Clearly are up one thousand percent!!!

Where's the CBC on that! ;)

hagbard
Feb 29th, 2012, 05:14 PM
I got in on one of the "freebie" deals with CC. I think I screwed up somewhere as they aren't quite right, I'm guessing it was the pupil distance.

the_fm
Feb 29th, 2012, 05:37 PM
I got in on one of the "freebie" deals with CC. I think I screwed up somewhere as they aren't quite right, I'm guessing it was the pupil distance.

you have a year to exchange/return them

Portwest
Feb 29th, 2012, 05:58 PM
you have a year to exchange/return them


+ 1

In my experience, CC is actually quite good about returns and exchanges. It would be worth the effort to get your correct measurement and ask for a re-do.

Vietlord
Mar 2nd, 2012, 09:57 AM
Damn, still waiting for their freebies to come back. ):

Vietlord
Mar 3rd, 2012, 05:21 PM
Anyone have any free coupon codes the aren't using and wanna share with me? ):