Adobe Lightroom 4 - $149 full version, $79 Upgrade/Educational

[hoodlum]

I don't think anyone saw this price drop coming. It looks like they want to increase market share.

I have an educational version of LR3 but will purchase the full version this time around. The highlight/shadow recovery improvements in LR4 are pretty amazing.

[mk5gti]

nice, a couple competitive software is about $100, so Adobe is pulling the Gap.

i don't see LR3 for sale anymore in B&H, just student version or the upgrade version.

[|Naruto|]

Sweet! Was actually waiting for Aperture 4 to come out since I started post-processing on Aperture 3, but with this price drop, I'm going to convert to LR4 haha. Aperture chews up my macbook pro resources like crazy!! Anybody else have that problem with Lightroom? From what I hear, it performs MUCH better but would love to hear if that's true for everyone.

Also, anyone know if I can convert my Aperture database to Lightroom?

[DVDManiac]

Wonder if this is an Intro price or regular price...after all these months, still haven't purchased Lightroom.

[hoodlum]

Wonder if this is an Intro price or regular price...after all these months, still haven't purchased Lightroom.

Looks like this is the new regular price.

[jb22]

Adobe will make it's money back wit the CS6 upgrades!

[Jimbobs]

Also, anyone know if I can convert my Aperture database to Lightroom?

It can be done but it requires care and attention. Do a search for the instructions.

[DVDManiac]

Looks like this is the new regular price.

Going to wait for a sale them...:D

[Ethan15]

I'm now using LR 3.5 .. any reason to upgrade to 4 ?

[|Naruto|]

I'm now using LR 3.5 .. any reason to upgrade to 4 ?

That depends on if you like the new changes and features. You should check this out and decide: http://www.dpreview.com/articles/7481161037/lightroom-4-review

[jb22]

I'm now using LR 3.5 .. any reason to upgrade to 4 ?

It seems to have better control over shadows and highlights without introducing much artifacting.

[Jimbobs]

I'm now using LR 3.5 .. any reason to upgrade to 4 ?

Functionally (layout, appearance, etc.) both versions are similar but there are a number of background changes that improve the product. Groupings and rearrangements of some settings are changed which takes a little time but overall, IMHO, the improvements are subtle rather than dramatic. Bottom line: it depends on your usage of LR.

[Aggy]

There's no difference between the educational version and regular one besides price, right?

Do I just upload a scan of my student ID card or something upon checkout? I've never "purchased" software before, but I don't mind supporting a great product like this.

[Aggy]

If I'm an Ontario certified teacher, but not currently teaching/ employed by a board do I still qualify for the educational version? Can i just use my OCT card?

[hoob]

It seems to have better control over shadows and highlights without introducing much artifacting.

Looking forward to seeing improvements in the area. LR3 the effects were functional but added a lot of edge artifacts and weird banding.

[asd913]

If I'm an Ontario certified teacher, but not currently teaching/ employed by a board do I still qualify for the educational version? Can i just use my OCT card?

They only review the scanned pics of your card to determine eligibility.

[hoob]

Looking forward to seeing improvements in the area. LR3 the effects were functional but added a lot of edge artifacts and weird banding.

Ended up buying the Digital Download full version last night. Found a few pictures in my collection that exhibited some of the edge highlighting artifact problems in LR3, and tried converting them to PV2012 processing and the effects seemed much better (thought more logarithmic application of effects.)

I'll probably convert the problematic pictures I have to PV2012 and of course use that for new pictures -- but the bulk will remain at PV2010.

[Newfie]

Hi All,

I don't know Lightroom at all. Is it just a subset of the features found in Photoshop?

If not, why would I choose it over Photoshop?

Thanks,
Craig

[Aggy]

Hi All,

I don't know Lightroom at all. Is it just a subset of the features found in Photoshop?

If not, why would I choose it over Photoshop?

Thanks,
Craig

Weird, Newfie is my handle on other sites so I thought I posted lol.

Lots of reasons...cost for one...Photoshop CS5 is like $700 compared to lightroom at $150. Also, LR is geared towards photos as the cataloging is excellent in terms of organization. It's so much more of a straightforward program and you would use a lot more features than you would in PS. I would try out the free download for both and you will see. I picked up the LR book by Scott Kelby and my LR and editing skills are way better after a weekend of reading the book than they ever were with PS reading.



They only review the scanned pics of your card to determine eligibility.

Thanks! I graduated 2 years ago from Teachers College, but my York card expires next month...I wonder if I can buy a second copy with that for my sister?

[Newfie]

Looks like LR is Photoshop Elements on steroids, but it actually works, does not crash your PC and bog down the processor ... ;-)

Take care,
Craig

[Aggy]

Looks like LR is Photoshop Elements on steroids, but it actually works, does not crash your PC and bog down the processor ... ;-)

Take care,
Craig

Or you could say "LR is like Photoshop that did P90X and lost 100lbs!" ;)

[Jimbobs]

I don't know Lightroom at all. Is it just a subset of the features found in Photoshop?

Lightroom is part of the Adobe Photoshop family but is a very distinct application than CS5. Lightroom is an application that facilitates the cataloging, sorting and storage of image files, provides the ability to develop digital negatives and then print, publish or transfer the finished image.

CS5, on the other hand, is an image manipulation application used to modify images.

So, Lightroom is aimed at photographers while CS5 is for graphic artists.

[hoodlum]

Looks like LR is Photoshop Elements on steroids, but it actually works, does not crash your PC and bog down the processor ... ;-)

Take care,
Craig

One big difference between Lightroom and Photoshop is that any change to lightroom do not change the original file. What happens is that lightroom just keeps track of all your change requests and saves them in a library separate from the image. Anytime you go back to lightroom for that image, it will pull back the original image and automatically apply the changes again in the order you originally requested. You can also back out individual changes at any time or just 'reset' to remove all the change requests and start over again. With Photoshop you would need to manually save various versions of the file. Coming from an IT background I much prefer LR's method of applying changes.

[TruE SkiLLS]

It can be done but it requires care and attention. Do a search for the instructions.

I'd also like to know how (from someone who's actually done it) to convert from Aperture to Lightroom

[Aggy]

Hey guys...sorry for the stupid question, but am I able to install a copy of lightroom on 2 computers, ie, my computer and my wife's laptop?

[hoob]

Hey guys...sorry for the stupid question, but am I able to install a copy of lightroom on 2 computers, ie, my computer and my wife's laptop?

Adobe's terms allow it. I have it installed on my desktop and laptop computers, but ultimately I am the only user. According to the terms you couldn't have her use it at the same time on a separate computer.

http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/end-user-license-agreements-faq.html


Can I use my software on two computers?

If you own, or are the primary user of, a single-user or volume license Adobe product that is installed on a computer at work, you can also install and use the software on one secondary computer of the same platform at home or on a portable computer. However, you may not run the software simultaneously on both the primary and secondary computers.

No more than one user can use a single-user license Adobe product.

[TenzoR]

The only feature missing from LR is Panoramic Stitching, is there a good alternative? Other than Photoshop

[hoob]

The only feature missing from LR is Panoramic Stitching, is there a good alternative? Other than Photoshop

For the rare times I need it, I just export the JPgs from LR and feed them to the Canon PhotoStich software that came with my camera. It works OK but I presume Photoshop does it better.

http://hoob.smugmug.com/Travel/Utah-and-Arizona-October-2011/i-JDs4Hrz/0/XL/panoramic-XL.jpg (http://hoob.smugmug.com/Travel/Utah-and-Arizona-October-2011/i-JDs4Hrz/0/X3/panoramic-X3.jpg)

[Aggy]

Adobe's terms allow it. I have it installed on my desktop and laptop computers, but ultimately I am the only user. According to the terms you couldn't have her use it at the same time on a separate computer.

http://helpx.adobe.com/x-productkb/policy-pricing/end-user-license-agreements-faq.html

Thanks! I did see this while I was at work and forgot to update my post...

Can't use it the same time? How would they know ;)

[sylpherware]

Do elementary school teachers in BC qualify for the educational version? Can it be installed on personal computers? I know that the University staff/faculty version has to be installed on school property :confused:

[|Naruto|]

Can I use my software on two computers?

If you own, or are the primary user of, a single-user or volume license Adobe product that is installed on a computer at work, you can also install and use the software on one secondary computer of the same platform at home or on a portable computer. However, you may not run the software simultaneously on both the primary and secondary computers.

No more than one user can use a single-user license Adobe product.


Wait..so if I have a macbook pro and a windows desktop at home...then I theoretically cannot install it on both or else it will break the license agreement :confused: What a dumb rule!

[hoob]

Wait..so if I have a macbook pro and a windows desktop at home...then I theoretically cannot install it on both or else it will break the license agreement :confused: What a dumb rule!

Depending on your thoughts on the Oxford Comma (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Serial_comma), that might be interpreted indeed as allowing installation on a portable computer of any platform. ;)

[asmack]

I love the new checkbox labeled Remove Chromatic Aberration. It works great! No lens profile needed (it will even work for legacy manual focus lenses).