Sovereignty + Dependence?

[Mykester]

Many First Nations do not recognize Canada as a nation and want their own sovereignty. Granted, Canada did screw many over as the treaties signified independence but Canada tried to assimilate them. However, currently many are on welfare, and many leaders get payed by the government. Would they want to be sovereign but still collect assistance? How would that work? Attawapiskat has many chiefs who rake in 90 k, would they still depend on a country they claim doesn't exist?

[Piro21]

This same argument applies to many places. Quebec, the American south, Hong Kong, the Tamil part of Sri Lanka, etc. Separation isn't really going to happen in any of them.

[Aznsilvrboy]

If the First Nations got their own territory and became sovereign, they may still try claim reparations from Canada, but realistically they would probably get cut off.

[Aznsilvrboy]

This same argument applies to many places. Quebec, the American south, Hong Kong, the Tamil part of Sri Lanka, etc. Separation isn't really going to happen in any of them.

You can't say "never". Over the course of the past few thousand years, the world's geopolitical landscape has changed constantly. What you describe is most certainly possible.

[stealth]

No chance. They have shown they have no ability to self govern sustainably even in limited capacities, and their revenue stream would be decimated if they became independent.

[stealth]

If the First Nations got their own territory and became sovereign, they may still try claim reparations from Canada, but realistically they would probably get cut off.

Ya, any public sympathy they had would be gone, so no more handouts.

[ippon]

No chance. They have shown they have no ability to self govern sustainably even in limited capacities, and their revenue stream would be decimated if they became independent.

what an ugly, ignorant and stupid comment.

[pshch]

what an ugly, ignorant and stupid comment.

Not politically correct is for sure but is it really so ignorant and stupid?

[BornRuff]

No chance. They have shown they have no ability to self govern sustainably even in limited capacities, and their revenue stream would be decimated if they became independent.

Aboriginal people did survive for centuries without the help of white people.

Modern governing structures have been imposed on bands by the government, and some of these have been fatally flawed. There are many examples of bands that have been very successful though, so your comment is not correct.

[pshch]

Aboriginal people did survive for centuries without the help of white people.

Modern governing structures have been imposed on bands by the government, and some of these have been fatally flawed. There are many examples of bands that have been very successful though, so your comment is not correct.

And unfortunately there much more examples where they were not.

I would not say that they won't be able to survive but there is a good chance that this will be just a survival. You know - like a survival job vs high paid professional position.

[MrKap]

If they want it, why not just form a new province or something?

I don't know how much land they have but maybe it's enough to consolidate in one or two areas, forming a new province?

Why not just be distinctly Canadian provinces?

Why form a whole new nation?

[BornRuff]

And unfortunately there much more examples where they were not.

I would not say that they won't be able to survive but there is a good chance that this will be just a survival. You know - like a survival job vs high paid professional position.

That is certainly true. There are some very fundamental issues that need to be addressed before we will really see much improvement.


If they want it, why not just form a new province or something?

I don't know how much land they have but maybe it's enough to consolidate in one or two areas, forming a new province?

Why not just be distinctly Canadian provinces?

Why form a whole new nation?

I don't think splitting off into a separate country is seriously being discussed by anyone. Most discussions are around gaining more self direction and rights within Canada. The relationship was intentionally designed to be one of paternalism and dependence from the beginning, and reversing that now is not easy.