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AV-Fishing
Apr 12th, 2012, 08:16 PM
Thank you Kim Jong-un ... no wonder your father decided to die ...

Source: http://www.thestar.com/news/world/article/1160689--north-korea-has-fired-long-range-rocket-south-korea?bn=1

North Korea fires long-range rocket

PYONGYANG, NORTH KOREA—North Korea fired a long-range rocket early Friday, South Korean and U.S. officials said, defying international warnings against moving forward with a launch widely seen as a provocation.

Liftoff took place at 7:39 a.m. from the west coast launch pad in the hamlet of Tongchang-ri, South Korea’s Joint Chiefs of Staff in Seoul said, citing South Korean and U.S. intelligence.

However, the launch may have failed, U.S. officials said in Washington. South Korean officials said they could not confirm that.

Japan’s Defence Minister Naiki Tanaka said, “We have confirmed that a certain flying object has been launched and fell after flying for just over a minute.” He did not say what exactly was launched.

He said there was no impact on Japanese territory from the launch.

In Pyongyang, there was no word about a launch, and state television was broadcasting video for popular folk tunes. North Korean officials said they would make an announcement about the launch “soon.”

North Korea had earlier announced it would send a three-stage rocket mounted with a satellite as part of celebrations honouring national founder Kim Il Sung, whose 100th birthday is being celebrated Sunday.

Space officials say the rocket is meant to send a satellite into orbit to study crops and weather patterns — its third bid to launch a satellite since 1998.

The United States, Britain, Japan and others, however, have called such a launch a violation of UN resolutions prohibiting North Korea from nuclear and ballistic missile activity.

Experts say the Unha-3 carrier is the same type of rocket that would be used to launch a long-range missile aimed at the U.S. and other targets. North Korea has tested two atomic devices but is not believed to have mastered the technology needed to mount a nuclear warhead on a long-range missile.

U.S. Secretary of State Hillary Clinton has warned that the launch would be a direct threat to regional security and said the U.S. would pursue “appropriate action” at the UN Security Council if North Korea goes ahead with it.

The UN Security Council will meet to discuss a possible response to North Korea’s rocket launch on Friday, council diplomats said on Thursday.

According to projections, the first stage of the rocket is due to fall into the ocean off the western coast of South Korea, while the second stage of the rocket was due to fall into waters off the eastern coast of the Philippine island of Luzon.

North Korean space officials have dismissed assertions that the launch is a cover for developing missile technology as “nonsense.”

Earlier this week, U.S. Ambassador to the United Nations Susan Rice said the 15-nation council should “respond credibly” to a North Korean missile launch. Western diplomats say that the most China, a permanent veto-wielding council member and North Korea’s protector, would accept is a rebuke of Pyongyang.

New sanctions, they said on condition of anonymity, are out of the question.

More to come

Syne
Apr 12th, 2012, 09:20 PM
/yawn

More posturing from N. Korea

kingofwale
Apr 12th, 2012, 09:28 PM
nobody NEEDS military until they are forced to go into a war.

most likely losing and whining for next few decades about how they should've gotten stronger... and then elect someone called Hilter.

;)

Piro21
Apr 12th, 2012, 09:31 PM
What exactly does this have to do with us?

dragon_drift
Apr 12th, 2012, 09:34 PM
they can barely make one missile and it's not for us. ;)

Justin
Apr 12th, 2012, 09:37 PM
How many time will they fail before they give up? This is funny.

MrKap
Apr 12th, 2012, 10:13 PM
What they should do is build a couple of manufacturing plants in Ontario which can build things like tractors, tanks, and airplanes, so in the event that a war does break out Canada can ramp up production to meet demand.

Anything else beside missile defense systems and apcs is a total waste.


From the article...


North Korea's long-range rocket launch failed as the rocket broke into pieces and crashed a few minutes after takeoff, South Korea said Thursday.


If Norad can't intercept two jumbo jets on a collision to the world trade centre, what makes people think F-35s could stop missles?

With all the people coming out of University, without jobs, they should just train them to be spies so WWIII can be a safe cold war with lots of sabotage.

stuntman
Apr 12th, 2012, 10:23 PM
If Norad can't intercept two jumbo jets on a collision to the world trade centre, what makes people think F-35s could stop missles?

The world trade center planes were stealth like if they were obvious threats f-35s could take them out.
The missles are obvious threats. I guess some missles can be taken out with planes but the planes and the missles have little to do with each other.



With all the people coming out of University, without jobs, they should just train them to be spies so WWIII can be a safe cold war with spies and lots of sabotage.

Good plan.
The Chinese are already doing this except they send them over to attend University where they make contacts, set up covers and influence people.

Junigenmukyoku
Apr 12th, 2012, 10:38 PM
lol F35s

adeel
Apr 12th, 2012, 10:42 PM
What they should do is build a couple of manufacturing plants in Ontario which can build things like tractors, tanks, and airplanes, so in the event that a war does break out Canada can ramp up production to meet demand.



As I recall, that is exactly the kind of military/infrastructure we had. If i recall, in WW2 of the british empire we had the 2nd or 3rd best military in terms of equipment (and soliders).

Oh, from wikipedia: Canada would possess the fourth-largest air force and third-largest naval surface fleet in the world.

Not bad..but what happened haha.

MrKap
Apr 12th, 2012, 11:06 PM
The world trade center planes were stealth like if they were obvious threats f-35s could take them out.
The missles are obvious threats. I guess some missles can be taken out with planes but the planes and the missles have little to do with each other.



Good plan.
The Chinese are already doing this except they send them over to attend University where they make contacts, set up covers and influence people.

Well you just predicted the start of WWIII.

A portable nuclear device on board a civilian plane.



As I recall, that is exactly the kind of military/infrastructure we had. If i recall, in WW2 of the british empire we had the 2nd or 3rd best military in terms of equipment (and soliders).

I am not a big believer in an all out WWIII scenario. If I had to guess it will be more like international policing from here on in. In which case Stryker APCs are all that's needed, right?

They should privatize it all anyways, and hire mercenaries to fight wars from now on anyways. Save a couple super weapons in reserve.

aplayaz2000
Apr 12th, 2012, 11:10 PM
nobody NEEDS military until they are forced to go into a war.and then when you get invaded

it's too late to make some F35's

Nook
Apr 12th, 2012, 11:14 PM
Lol the F-35 can't help us protect our sovereignty. It's a striker with stealth, it isn't very good at maintaining air superiority. That's why we need the F-22 but the Americans refuse to export that. Doesn't our greatest ally have any concern of our safety and security? :rolleyes: The F-35 is being sought for assaults on other nations, not to protect Canadian soil.

As a part of NATO, we are mainly protected from invasions. But our Navy is more useless than two hobos on a raft. We should get a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier as many countries in the world now possess one (and the US does about a dozen) so that we can protect our waters.

YippoHippo
Apr 12th, 2012, 11:20 PM
You think they have enough money to start a war?

hyperion
Apr 13th, 2012, 12:16 AM
N.Korea in international news summarized:

http://media.tumblr.com/tumblr_lzplklI6ll1r5hl6q.gif

Peckerwood
Apr 13th, 2012, 12:38 AM
Korea's space satellite launch was a failure, however their Deep Sea Ocean Observer has been successfully launched and sunk, and is now working perfectly

:)

DiceMan
Apr 13th, 2012, 12:47 AM
All I can say is, fighter jets are cool!

Air Superiority Fighter: F15 >> F22
Multirole/All Purpose: F18 >> F35

JustBob
Apr 13th, 2012, 12:51 AM
The fact that the Japanese Defense Minister referred to that missile as "a certain flying object" tells you all you need to know about the level of threat that piece of crap the North Koreans launched poses.

Plus, F35's are crap planes, granted not as crappy as that North Korean crap. :)

nagasadow
Apr 13th, 2012, 02:13 AM
Canada should just scrap that pos F35 garbage thats gonna choke up in the arctic. Invest in some eurofighter typhoons like our major land combat ally (the germans) use. Much cheaper fighter and its proven. Heck some guy that tested the f35 (or was it f22) also tested it and said it was a superior plane. Plus with 2 engines it should be able to fly in the arctic better. Lets face it they could spend 25 billion on 65 planes or spend 15 billion on 130 fighters and spend the other 10 billion on a navy but no thats the ****ing canadian way follow the americans and wonder why our ****ing military is equipped poorly,

MrKap
Apr 13th, 2012, 02:15 AM
What's about F-16s?

Are they no good or something?


According to the wiki...

An F35 is about $236.8M

An F16 is about $14.6M

Mark77
Apr 13th, 2012, 02:19 AM
What's about F-16s?

Are they no good or something?

Some of the oldest frames are already 30 years old. At some point, there are significant airworthiness issues. These F-35 deliveries probably are at least another 5 years off.

nagasadow
Apr 13th, 2012, 02:34 AM
What's about F-16s?

Are they no good or something?


According to the wiki...

An F35 is about $236.8M

An F16 is about $14.6M

again another single engine fighter also thats 30+yo

JAC
Apr 13th, 2012, 02:53 AM
I'm wondering if international ridicule just makes NK more determined. Perhaps if we're politely supportive, they'd be more inclined to give up.

http://static4.fjcdn.com/thumbnails/comments/slow+clap+_59e943a768dc0c61393fd242d77a36bf.gif

cloneman
Apr 13th, 2012, 03:48 AM
holy crap ... those are expensive jets. You could buy the whole jets hockey team with 2 of them!

As others have mentioned, wouldn't we be better off buying a bunch of less expensive jets?

BornRuff
Apr 13th, 2012, 04:18 AM
Lol the F-35 can't help us protect our sovereignty. It's a striker with stealth, it isn't very good at maintaining air superiority. That's why we need the F-22 but the Americans refuse to export that. Doesn't our greatest ally have any concern of our safety and security? :rolleyes: The F-35 is being sought for assaults on other nations, not to protect Canadian soil.

As a part of NATO, we are mainly protected from invasions. But our Navy is more useless than two hobos on a raft. We should get a nuclear-powered aircraft carrier as many countries in the world now possess one (and the US does about a dozen) so that we can protect our waters.

Obviously the US want to be the ones with air superiority, lol.

A multipurpose fighter does make more sense for Canada since we pretty much use them for NATO/UN missions, not protecting Canada.

iEyeCaptain
Apr 13th, 2012, 09:39 AM
The fact that the Japanese Defense Minister referred to that missile as "a certain flying object" tells you all you need to know about the level of threat that piece of crap the North Koreans launched poses.

Plus, F35's are crap planes, granted not as crappy as that North Korean crap. :)

F35s handle terribly in BF3.

F/A-18s are so much better.

Xeros
Apr 13th, 2012, 10:50 AM
With all the people coming out of University, without jobs, they should just train them to be spies so WWIII can be a safe cold war with lots of sabotage.

Biometric passports making this near impossible now.

http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2012/04/cia-spies-biometric-tech/

mcplar
Apr 13th, 2012, 11:06 AM
The beginning of WWIII???? That's the funniest thing I've read in a very long time.

Buggy166
Apr 13th, 2012, 11:52 AM
north korea is a threat to south korea and japan. thats all there is to it. The only threat to Canada is Russia, and if there is an altercation, it will be over the northern pole oil fields.