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sanok
Apr 14th, 2012, 01:18 PM
I just saw a random Japanese commercial with Jean Reno. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8PW72MH-bk)
It really made no sense and I wondered what the hell he was even doing making that commercial. Then I remembered one of the latest movies I watched with him (Couples Retreat) and he also played such a weak comedic role. This is the guy from Leon, Mission Impossible, he was great in roles as a badass. What happened?

Another one who comes to mind is Gary Oldman, also in Leon, the guy was amazing as a villain. Now he is Commissioner Gordon in batman and a shell of his former self. Is this a natural progression simply because of aging?

Any other actors that followed the same path?

mcplar
Apr 14th, 2012, 01:35 PM
that feris buller guy

you think he was baddass?? wow.

eldiablo
Apr 14th, 2012, 01:41 PM
this thread is badass :lol:

mysticalinfluence
Apr 14th, 2012, 01:43 PM
Now he is Commissioner Gordon in batman and a shell of his former self. Is this a natural progression simply because of aging?

Any other actors that followed the same path?

None the Batman movies where any good they're extremely overated especially the ones made by Nolan.

stuntman
Apr 14th, 2012, 02:09 PM
Charlton Heston, wait no he would still have kicked my ***** his last days on earth.

Harrison Ford.
Reason: In Clear and Present Danger he did not want his character to use a gun he felt it lowered the character, the character was Jack Ryan!. So when guys were shooting at him with machine guns and trying to kill him his Jack Ryan character got a gun and threw it away! Harrison Ford really screwed that up. That and the dumb ascot.

peanutz
Apr 14th, 2012, 02:11 PM
None the Batman movies where any good they're extremely overated especially the ones made by Nolan.You take that back!!! I love Batman Begins.

tinlunlau
Apr 14th, 2012, 02:13 PM
That Toyota commercial made no sense. Doraemon's supposed to have no ears since some rats bit it off. And here, Jean Reno has his ears intact.

Jean Reno plays a robot cat from the future popularly known as Doraemon in a "what if we were all adults" scenario.
Doramon is a popular comic book in Japan and most Southeast Asian countries.

time space
Apr 14th, 2012, 02:37 PM
None the Batman movies where any good they're extremely overated especially the ones made by Nolan.

+1


(It's rare to see the truth spoken on that topic.)

stuntman
Apr 14th, 2012, 03:05 PM
None the Batman movies where any good they're extremely overated especially the ones made by Nolan.

-1 for having nothing to do with this thread
-1 because you are wrong. Some of those movies could not be overated because it was understood they sucked. The Nolan ones were pretty good. Still not perfect, batman needs to be more psychotic (Keaton did pretty good at that despite the cartoony feel of the movie)

-1 for me being off topic too.


Gene Hackman has tailed off....but the guy did take the tough guy stuff until really late in life. He is realistic.

Mr.Sea
Apr 14th, 2012, 03:05 PM
you think he was baddass?? wow.

Skipping school, stealing a Ferrari, beating up your principal... thats badd ***** to me!

mysticalinfluence
Apr 14th, 2012, 04:49 PM
You take that back!!! I love Batman Begins.

I would rather stab my eyes out with rusty butter knife not to mention Batman is the lamest character ever created and improperly labelled a Super Hero. On Top that Nolan is no James Cameron or Riley Scott he's just plain overated due to the fanboi's of Batman series. Seriously did you see the bore fest that was Inception he plain ripped off Satoshi Kon work.

duckdown
Apr 14th, 2012, 04:56 PM
Breaking news: people age.

stuntman
Apr 14th, 2012, 05:42 PM
Breaking news: people age.

Yeah but some actors are still young an give up the action star stuff

Vin Diesil: went from BA to lame (though he still did FF)...no age problem there.

TodayHello
Apr 14th, 2012, 05:54 PM
+1 Vin Diesel ........ guy was always lame, he just became lamer with age :lol:

azndoughboi
Apr 14th, 2012, 07:07 PM
Breaking news: people age.

Clint Eastwood is still as badass as ever...especially in Gran Torino

DougO
Apr 14th, 2012, 11:06 PM
I DARE any of you to tell Chuck Norris to his face that he is a lameass old guy...:lol:

buu.ho
Apr 15th, 2012, 02:07 AM
Clint Eastwood is still as badass as ever...especially in Gran Torino

I LOVED that movie. My addition to this thread is problem Adam Sandler. Awesome movies before now they have gotten pretty lame. As for an action star proably MAtt Damon. Bourne series ----> kids movies.

Longobongo
Apr 15th, 2012, 04:00 AM
http://collider.com/wp-content/image-base/Movies/X/xXx/XXX%20movie%20poster%20Vin%20Diesel%20%281%29.jpg
http://www.disneypicture.net/data/media/197/the-pacifier_1280.jpg

Skidz
Apr 15th, 2012, 06:01 AM
Ice Cube

adamtheman
Apr 15th, 2012, 06:57 AM
The Rock... he went from:

http://ia.media-imdb.com/images/M/MV5BMTM0MjYzNzM1N15BMl5BanBnXkFtZTcwMDcwNDc3NA@@._ V1._SY317_.jpg

to:

http://www.etonline.com/media/video/2009/12/128675/et_toothfairy_091218_et_large.jpg

longitude
Apr 15th, 2012, 07:59 AM
Breaking news: people age.

Do you have evidence to support your claim?

longitude
Apr 15th, 2012, 08:00 AM
Another one who comes to mind is Gary Oldman...

Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy, one hell of a movie.

Sauerkraut
Apr 15th, 2012, 09:02 AM
Robert De Niro.

Godfather II and Taxi Driver morphed into a bunch of fockers paychecks. I think the shark jumping point was Rocky & Bullwinkle.

milhaus
Apr 15th, 2012, 09:10 AM
None the Batman movies where any good they're extremely overated especially the ones made by Nolan.
Tomorrow's Headline: Christopher Nolan ends directing career on advice of internet critic who doesn't know the difference between "where" and "were."

DougO
Apr 15th, 2012, 11:13 AM
Mr. T has left the planet...:lol:

thunder
Apr 15th, 2012, 11:25 AM
Robert De Niro.

Godfather II and Taxi Driver morphed into a bunch of fockers paychecks. I think the shark jumping point was Rocky & Bullwinkle.

You forget to mention his best movie Heat (1995)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113277/


;););)

peanutz
Apr 15th, 2012, 04:25 PM
I would rather stab my eyes out with rusty butter knife not to mention Batman is the lamest character ever created and improperly labelled a Super Hero. On Top that Nolan is no James Cameron or Riley Scott he's just plain overated due to the fanboi's of Batman series. Seriously did you see the bore fest that was Inception he plain ripped off Satoshi Kon work.Inception was good!

Although I have to say I didn't like The Dark Knight. Eagerly awaiting the third installment of Nolan's Batman movies... :)

Batman may not be a "superhero" in the sense that he doesn't have any true super powers, but that is what makes him one of the more interesting comic book characters. Now in the Marvel universe, you have some beings who approach god-status. Zzzzzzz When they get too powerful, it is boring because human dilemmas become too distant and irrelevant to them. Batman FTW.

I loved the internal struggle Nolan gave to his Batman/Bale. Keaton was also a good Batman (as was Pfeiffer a Catwoman).

Also, I like The Rock wearing a pink dress and having fun. :D

the stig
Apr 15th, 2012, 05:19 PM
it's not that most have taken wuss roles of lately... it's more that they are being more realistic about things. such as clint eastwood, that guy is starting to look like an old piece of leather BUT he has even stated as saying that he's not up to par for doing anymore dirty harry movies since he's way too old and it would just look stupid to see an 80 year old chasing after punks.

stallone, he's borderline .... at least he made the last rambo outing looking bloated and out of shape. but then had to ramp up the violence and gore to make up for things. and most of his newer movies he doesn't do much fighting, just relies on guns and leaves it to the younger ones.

both van damme and segal kind of burned bridges with their antics on sets (van damme more for the drugs). so had to take work over seas making some pretty bad budget movies. JCVD did have one or two decent flicks, segal is still looking for a comeback.. stallone has tried to help more than a few washed up action stars get some luster back by having them do the expendables, but segal kept thinking the next best thing was about to happen so kept turning down the offer.. van damme finally clued in and took the lead bad guy role in the next installment. unfortunately segal won't be in this one since he pissed off the director and well it was best to leave segal out rather than get a new director.

schwartzenegger is finally getting back into movies, but of course on a low end budget side... and definitely not into his ***** kicking days since having heart surgery. the latest movie has him playing a town sheriff ?!?!?! along the lines of the cop stallone played (slightly deaf and slow) in that movie i can't recall. i think he has a small cameo again in the latest expendables but doing very little in the way of action.

mickey rourke (who i think is bad ***** for just being himself) burned out but is actually doing not bad in the roles he's been taking on of lately. i wouldn't consider him really an action guy, but get a kick out of his don't give a ***** attitude, almost like a white version of samuel jackson if you will.

chuck norris ... ok wtf happend to this guy ? looks like he's had the same plastic surgeon that kenny rogers used... their faces look messed up and stretched to the max. i think chuck looked in the mirror and scared the look off his face lol. i haven't seen him in a movie in a very long time (not including the upcoming expendables 2)

guys like the rock, vin diesel and statham are more or less stuck doing the bad kids type movies because before they got the good roles had to sign agreements for a certain amount of years to do 2 good action movies for every kids geared movie. the only one i have noticed that has not bowed to stuff like that is steve austin... his are action oriented even though higher end budget flicks. the rock was supposed to do spyhunter but they quickly buried that movie due to extremely poor test audience reviews.

some just want to ride the sequels no matter if the course has been run and dragged out.... eg. bruce willis (do we really need another die hard ?) since it's really their only meal ticket. well i wouldn't say bruce willis's since he plays other roles pretty good.

Tdotshopper
Apr 15th, 2012, 05:54 PM
Pierce Brosnan imo was a kickass james bond..... then he broke my man heart when i got a vid clip of him singing in Mamma Mia the movie!

cOmAtOaSt
Apr 16th, 2012, 09:37 AM
What about Joe Pesci? He did a few mobster movies and I haven't seen much of him lately. His best one was GoodFellas, and the best part was when Ray Liotta told him he was funny, and Joe Pesci starts losing it and says "I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to ***** amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?" I thought Ray Liotta was going to die in that scene, Pesci was so believable as a complete psycho.

flashy_mcflash
Apr 16th, 2012, 10:03 AM
On Top that Nolan is no James Cameron or Riley Scott he's just plain overated due to the fanboi's of Batman series. Seriously did you see the bore fest that was Inception he plain ripped off Satoshi Kon work.

Excuse me? Baking powder?

Go back and watch films like Following (Nolan's first film), or Memento (absolutely brilliant and still revolutionary even over a decade later) or The Prestige. Did you think Nolan was chosen to helm Batman Begins for no reason? The man is undeniably talented, unless you're the kind of person that believes Batman was his first film or something.

joeyjoejoe
Apr 16th, 2012, 10:34 AM
Val Kilmer - goes from Iceman, Doc Holiday, and batman.... to a bloated old guy

DiceMan
Apr 16th, 2012, 10:42 AM
Arnold. He was totally badass as the Terminator but too many years at a desk job has made him soft and kind of flabby. Hopefully he can get some of his body back in The Expendables 2.

ji2o0k
Apr 16th, 2012, 10:51 AM
Robert De Niro.

Godfather II and Taxi Driver morphed into a bunch of fockers paychecks. I think the shark jumping point was Rocky & Bullwinkle.+2...Robert De Niro was the first one that popped into my mind...he was so bad ***** in Godfather, Heat and Ronin....then goes and does the focker movies, Anaylze This (and That) and cries etc...sheesh...

What about Joe Pesci? He did a few mobster movies and I haven't seen much of him lately. His best one was GoodFellas, and the best part was when Ray Liotta told him he was funny, and Joe Pesci starts losing it and says "I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to ***** amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?" I thought Ray Liotta was going to die in that scene, Pesci was so believable as a complete psycho.hahah, that last I saw Joe Pesci was in the Snickers commercial...

Reprising his role as a gangsta but with an obvious toupee....I think Joe can't be taken serious after the Lethal Weapon movies as "Leo Getz"...whatever you want, Leo Getz!! LOL!!

You know who got bad ***** as he got older? The dood from Breaking Bad...Bryan Cranston!

Went from playing in Seinfeld as the Dentist that turned to Jewish and Malcolm in the Middle's father to cooking meth and becoming bad ***** in Breaking Bad!!

jimmy-j
Apr 16th, 2012, 11:01 AM
badass comedian - eddie murphy. then he got caught with a tranny hooker and now he's doing exclusively disney type movies.

badass martial arts actor - hiroyuki sanada. shogun ninja.. roaring fire.. and years later showed up on lost. wtf!?? he was even a badass samurai in the last samurai with tom cruise.

the stig
Apr 16th, 2012, 11:58 AM
ohhh a good one.... jackie chan. he did quite a few really well done martial arts films then when it came to crossing over into american mainstream he would do more comedic type roles, only after he started doing more asian movies did he take on serious roles.

i feel that he has done so many lighter movies that taking on a serious role doesn't feel right for him. he can't be taken seriously... and this is after watching his police story series, shinjuku incident and the most recent epic he did. of course i'm using the movies most will know, but i basically grew up watching everything he's done.

Chigu
Apr 16th, 2012, 12:34 PM
What about Joe Pesci? He did a few mobster movies and I haven't seen much of him lately. His best one was GoodFellas, and the best part was when Ray Liotta told him he was funny, and Joe Pesci starts losing it and says "I'm funny how, I mean funny like I'm a clown, I amuse you? I make you laugh, I'm here to ***** amuse you? What do you mean funny, funny how? How am I funny?" I thought Ray Liotta was going to die in that scene, Pesci was so believable as a complete psycho.


True, but do you remember him in Home alone 1 and 2??

Migger
Apr 16th, 2012, 01:20 PM
A lot of the good ones have been taken, but nobody mentioned Wesley Snipes - although I think his downfall was due to tax evasion and not age.

Antonio Banderas was pretty badass in the Desperado and The Mask of Zorro movies.. and now he's just a big ***** ...cat.

DiceMan
Apr 16th, 2012, 02:22 PM
+2...Robert De Niro was the first one that popped into my mind...he was so bad ***** in Godfather, Heat and Ronin....then goes and does the focker movies, Anaylze This (and That) and cries etc...sheesh...
hahah, that last I saw Joe Pesci was in the Snickers commercial...


Can't leave out Once Upon a Time in America!

sonic
Apr 16th, 2012, 03:16 PM
Val Kilmer - goes from Iceman, Doc Holiday, and batman.... to a bloated old guy

tru enough.....:(

ji2o0k
Apr 16th, 2012, 03:26 PM
Antonio Banderas was pretty badass in the Desperado and The Mask of Zorro movies.. and now he's just a big ***** ...cat.good one...Desperado is one of my fave movies and I still remember the sex scene that he boffs Salma Hayek....goodness, I remember thinking to myself "Who da fack is dis beautiful goddess"?....so nice....

Can't leave out Once Upon a Time in America!amen brotha...can;t believe I forgot that one....

flashy_mcflash
Apr 16th, 2012, 03:36 PM
Banderas only has to pick the right role to get his badass cred back. I thought he was pretty badass in The Skin I Live In, and another 'Mariachi' flick would seal the deal.

Migger
Apr 16th, 2012, 03:47 PM
Banderas only has to pick the right role to get his badass cred back. I thought he was pretty badass in The Skin I Live In, and another 'Mariachi' flick would seal the deal.

Yeah, I totally agree. He was in Haywire, but barely did anything. Director Robert Rodriguez needs to stop making Spy Kids movies and put Banderas back in a real action movie.

veejam
Apr 16th, 2012, 04:00 PM
Al pacino!!!!!!

ji2o0k
Apr 16th, 2012, 04:17 PM
Director Robert Rodriguez needs to stop making Spy Kids movies and put Banderas back in a real action movie.Robert Rodriguez has really mellowed down...

From El Mariachi, Desperado, From Dusk Till Dawn...and then the Spykids...and that Sharkboy movie..

He did do the Once Upon a Time in Mexico and it was a decent effort but not like his early stuff...

johnnyhuynh
Apr 16th, 2012, 04:25 PM
Al pacino!!!!!!

Jack and Jill *shivers*

Migger
Apr 16th, 2012, 04:29 PM
Robert Rodriguez has really mellowed down...

From El Mariachi, Desperado, From Dusk Till Dawn...and then the Spykids...and that Sharkboy movie..

He did do the Once Upon a Time in Mexico and it was a decent effort but not like his early stuff...

He did do Sin City, which was an amazing adaptation of Frank Miller's book. Planet Terror and Machete were kinda "meh" though.

flashy_mcflash
Apr 16th, 2012, 04:35 PM
I liked Machete for what it was. Danny Trejo is another guy who's really mellowed though. He was pretty lame this season on Sons of Anarchy.

Sauerkraut
Apr 16th, 2012, 04:56 PM
Al pacino!!!!!!

Hoo-hah!

From Serpico to Gigli

Migger
Apr 16th, 2012, 05:23 PM
I liked Machete for what it was. Danny Trejo is another guy who's really mellowed though. He was pretty lame this season on Sons of Anarchy.

Trejo is in a movie appropriately titled "Bad ***** " where he's an old guy who beats people up. I was never a big fan of him as the main actor though...

May
Apr 16th, 2012, 06:47 PM
A lot of the good ones have been taken, but nobody mentioned Wesley Snipes - although I think his downfall was due to tax evasion and not age.

Antonio Banderas was pretty badass in the Desperado and The Mask of Zorro movies.. and now he's just a big ***** ...cat.


Beside Desperado Antonio Banderas was so good in


Assassins (1995)

http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0112401/

:D:D

shadow_cruiser
Apr 16th, 2012, 08:38 PM
http://i.imgur.com/8TWH0.jpg

Coz4k
Apr 16th, 2012, 09:03 PM
Joaquin phoenix

the stig
Apr 16th, 2012, 09:14 PM
Joaquin phoenix !?!? are you kidding me.... that guy is always the second fiddle in movies and usually plays the loser/rat.

Coz4k
Apr 16th, 2012, 09:25 PM
Joaquin phoenix !?!? are you kidding me.... that guy is always the second fiddle in movies and usually plays the loser/rat.

I liked him a lot in Gladiator.

Som other movies that he's in are also pretty good.

ji2o0k
Apr 17th, 2012, 08:24 AM
Another actor that got more bad ***** with age is Liam Neeson!

Way back when, I didn't think much of him but he has done some kick arse movies in his later years...(i.e. Taken, A-Team, Unknown)...

zod
Apr 17th, 2012, 10:18 AM
Joaquin phoenix !?!? are you kidding me.... that guy is always the second fiddle in movies and usually plays the loser/rat.

I thought he was pretty good as Johnny Cash.

Migger
Apr 17th, 2012, 01:19 PM
Another actor that got more bad ***** with age is Liam Neeson!

Way back when, I didn't think much of him but he has done some kick arse movies in his later years...(i.e. Taken, A-Team, Unknown)...

It started with Qui Gon Jin in Episode 1 I think... even though he dies like a chump, he, Ewan McGregor, and Darth Maul show how awesome real Jedis can be in action.

ji2o0k
Apr 17th, 2012, 01:27 PM
It started with Qui Gon Jin in Episode 1 I think... even though he dies like a chump, he, Ewan McGregor, and Darth Maul show how awesome real Jedis can be in action.yeah man...pretty much the Jedi fight scenes sealed the deal...the 2 sided light sabre was crazy cool!

siriuskao
Apr 17th, 2012, 01:43 PM
Age: jackie chan, arnie, stallone, jcvd, siegal.
Poor script choices: harrison ford, gibson, de niro, vin diesel, pacino, cage

new crop of badasses: neeson, gosling, damon, bale..

flashy_mcflash
Apr 17th, 2012, 02:08 PM
new crop of badasses: neeson, gosling, damon, bale..

Don't forget The Rock - while he's certainly done his share of silly kids movies (for which he was likely paid a dumptruck full of money), he's got GI Joe, Ciudad, Pain and Gain, Snitch, and another Fast & Furious movie on the horizon.

joeyjoejoe
Apr 17th, 2012, 03:19 PM
Hugh Jackman - though technically not old, he went from wolverine to broadway.

flashy_mcflash
Apr 17th, 2012, 04:03 PM
Hugh Jackman - though technically not old, he went from wolverine to broadway.

Actually I believe he was doing broadway before, during, and after X-Men.

Tornado F2
Apr 19th, 2012, 01:57 AM
I just saw a random Japanese commercial with Jean Reno. (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b8PW72MH-bk)
It really made no sense and I wondered what the hell he was even doing making that commercial. Then I remembered one of the latest movies I watched with him (Couples Retreat) and he also played such a weak comedic role. This is the guy from Leon, Mission Impossible, he was great in roles as a badass. What happened?

Another one who comes to mind is Gary Oldman, also in Leon, the guy was amazing as a villain. Now he is Commissioner Gordon in batman and a shell of his former self. Is this a natural progression simply because of aging?

Any other actors that followed the same path?

What else is a guy called "Oldman" supposed to do? :lol:

Everybody gets old eventually, if they live long enough. Even actors.

Talamasca
Apr 19th, 2012, 09:35 AM
Actually I believe he was doing broadway before, during, and after X-Men.

Yup. He's filming the Les Mis movie now (as Valjean) and then doing the Wolvervine sequel after that.

I agree that Liam Neeson has gotten increasingly badass as he's gotten older. Ever since his wife died, he's done a ton of action/thriller movies.

May
Apr 21st, 2012, 12:05 PM
What else is a guy called "Oldman" supposed to do? :lol:

Everybody gets old eventually, if they live long enough. Even actors.



Quite frankly, I don't think Jean Reno need more money to act like Dumb & stupid at that Japanese Commercial.

;);););)

Supercooled
Apr 24th, 2012, 10:03 AM
estelle getty and betty white need to make a comeback.

stealth
May 10th, 2012, 03:29 PM
Skipping school, stealing a Ferrari, beating up your principal... thats badd ***** to me!

but in fairness, he did all of that in the gheyest, whiny-little ***** way possible.:lol:

stealth
May 10th, 2012, 03:31 PM
Hugh Jackman - though technically not old, he went from wolverine to broadway.

he's one of those guys that when he's playing macho characters like Wolverine...is REALLY acting.
he's clearly happier being his tap-dancing, show-tunes singing, soap opera-acting closetted self ;)

stealth
May 10th, 2012, 03:35 PM
Yup. He's filming the Les Mis movie now (as Valjean) and then doing the Wolvervine sequel after that.

I agree that Liam Neeson has gotten increasingly badass as he's gotten older. Ever since his wife died, he's done a ton of action/thriller movies.

Rob Roy? Star Wars Ep 1? Gangs of New York? Batman Begins? Schindlers List (opposing Nazi's seems pretty badass), Kingdom of Heaven?
I think his body of work has been pretty consistent throughout.

stealth
May 10th, 2012, 03:37 PM
Age: jackie chan, arnie, stallone, jcvd, siegal.
Poor script choices: harrison ford, gibson, de niro, vin diesel, pacino, cage

new crop of badasses: neeson, gosling, damon, bale..

Its going to take a lot more than 1 car movie before I see this Matthew Mcconnaghey wanna be as a badass.

flashy_mcflash
May 10th, 2012, 03:38 PM
Rob Roy? Star Wars Ep 1? Gangs of New York? Batman Begins? Schindlers List (opposing Nazi's seems pretty badass), Kingdom of Heaven?
I think his body of work has been pretty consistent throughout.

A-Team? Battleship? Love Actually? The Grey?

He is a good actor when given the right script but his work and role selection is hardly consistent. Also, LMAO at Episode One.

stealth
May 10th, 2012, 03:44 PM
A-Team? Battleship? Love Actually? The Grey?

He is a good actor when given the right script but his work and role selection is hardly consistent. Also, LMAO at Episode One.
Oh I wasnt referring to "consistent" in the actual quality of his movies (not that an actor has control over that anyways), but in the sense that he didnt jump from being a softie to a badass overnight which is what this thread was about. Hes played both types throughout his career, and has never been particularly one-dimensional. And unlike some of the others mentioned in this thread, I dont has ever gotten cheap laughs (and an easy paycheck) by putting on a dress.

flashy_mcflash
May 10th, 2012, 03:47 PM
Oh I wasnt referring to "consistent" in the actual quality of his movies (not that an actor has control over that anyways), but in the sense that he didnt jump from being a softie to a badass overnight which is what this thread was about. Hes played both types throughout his career, and has never been particularly one-dimensional. And unlike some of the others mentioned in this thread, I dont has ever gotten cheap laughs (and an easy paycheck) by putting on a dress.

I would say that he's made a move to more action, blockbuster-y roles as of late. Hard to imagine the Liam Neeson of old taking on roles in A-Team and Battleship, though that might be because he wasn't marketable as an action star until after Star Wars.

stealth
May 10th, 2012, 04:10 PM
I would say that he's made a move to more action, blockbuster-y roles as of late. Hard to imagine the Liam Neeson of old taking on roles in A-Team and Battleship, though that might be because he wasn't marketable as an action star until after Star Wars.

We'll have to agree to disagree. IMO he was just as much a badass prior to Star wars (prob what got him the gig) when he was waving swords around as Rob Roy or the priest in Gangs of NY, anti-superhero in Darkman, as well as the other movies I mentioned before.

flashy_mcflash
May 10th, 2012, 04:26 PM
We'll have to agree to disagree. IMO he was just as much a badass prior to Star wars (prob what got him the gig) when he was waving swords around as Rob Roy or the priest in Gangs of NY, anti-superhero in Darkman, as well as the other movies I mentioned before.

Oh he was always a badass, I'm just saying his roles, by and large, were more 'legit' (I'd consider Rob Roy and GoNY 'legit' films as opposed to the blockbusters) before. I think Liam would agree that it's best if we all forgot about Darkman :lol:

stealth
May 10th, 2012, 04:34 PM
Oh he was always a badass, I'm just saying his roles, by and large, were more 'legit' (I'd consider Rob Roy and GoNY 'legit' films as opposed to the blockbusters) before. I think Liam would agree that it's best if we all forgot about Darkman :lol:

Stay focussed, Flashy...this is still about being badass....not great movies, lol.

Ive actually never made the distinction between "legit" movies and "badass' movies...I dont see the need to separate them out...Silence of the Lambs, Pulp Fiction, Snatch etc were legit movies chock full of badasses.

LostInTruth
May 10th, 2012, 11:47 PM
I would rather stab my eyes out with rusty butter knife not to mention Batman is the lamest character ever created and improperly labelled a Super Hero. On Top that Nolan is no James Cameron or Riley Scott he's just plain overated due to the fanboi's of Batman series. Seriously did you see the bore fest that was Inception he plain ripped off Satoshi Kon work.

Thank God he is not James Cameron, talk about the epitome of overrated. I don't think Nolan is overrated, people just appreciate his work and others find minor faults in other's work. He's not perfect, but his work is just fine.

As for this thread, I prefer the older actors because they can actually act. It has nothing to do with being badass, but rather the industry plays on ageism and it's hard to find a decent role, then you have those who give up completely (coughPacino,DeNirocough). However, you still have actors such as Judi Dench (Notes on a Scandal!), Meryl Streep (Iron Lady), Jeff Bridges, Morgan Freeman, Viggo Mortensen. The thing is most of these "bad ***** actors" weren't really good to begin with.

Someone mentioned Gary Oldman, and I found him so very overrated in Tinker Tailor Soldier Spy for which he was nominated for an Academy Award.

stealth
May 10th, 2012, 11:59 PM
He may have gotten old, but not lame, and will always be a badass....Christopher walken.

LostInTruth
May 11th, 2012, 12:08 AM
I also forgot to add Denzel Washington. He's just repetitive now.

Laurence Fishbourne used to be badass too (ok, one movie specifically as Ike).

I used to think Glenn Close was badass, but that movie she put out last year left a bad taste in my mouth.

Woody Harrelson is pretty badass, although Rampart was boring. Add Mark Wahlberg to bad ***** list too.

time space
May 11th, 2012, 06:52 AM
Woody Harrelson is pretty badass, although Rampart was boring.

Woody Harrelson should be in the opposite version of this thread.

flashy_mcflash
May 11th, 2012, 09:57 AM
I used to think Glenn Close was badass, but that movie she put out last year left a bad taste in my mouth.


Have you seen her in The Shield (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0286486/)? I've never been a big fan of hers but she seriously earned my respect on that show.

Talamasca
May 11th, 2012, 11:51 PM
Glenn Close is also terrifyingly awesome on Damages as well.

Cas77
May 12th, 2012, 12:05 AM
Daniel Day-Lewis. He didn't turn lame..he just disappeared like 5 years ago. :(

Best actor of all time IMO.

originalnutta
May 12th, 2012, 12:18 AM
Daniel Day-Lewis. He didn't turn lame..he just disappeared like 5 years ago. :(

Best actor of all time IMO.
He didn't disappear. He just picks his roles wisely.

Sauerkraut
May 12th, 2012, 10:34 PM
He's Abe Lincoln in Spielberg's new movie...out in Dec

http://www.newsmax.com/Newsmax/files/37/37ef6501-52d5-400d-8a5b-192e051973ec.jpg

LostInTruth
May 14th, 2012, 12:09 AM
Have you seen her in The Shield (http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0286486/)? I've never been a big fan of hers but she seriously earned my respect on that show.

I've always heard good things about that show, but have never seen it.


Glenn Close is also terrifyingly awesome on Damages as well.

Yes! That's the name of the show, she kicked ***** in Damages.

I just have a bad taste from Albert Nobbs, I guess Close still kicks some ***** :o