Easiest programs at York to get SUMMA CUM LAUDE 8.00+/9.00 GPA

[Brown Thug]

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[imflying12]

What's wrong? Struggling in the current program your in? if you cannot handle that, try college.

In all universities, people tend to say anything involving arts is the easiest. There are exceptions of course, for example: Economics may be a arts degree but i know a ton who struggle in that subject. So it really depends from person to person.

Try history, its pure memorization.

[windforcexx28]

I know a few friends in the sciences who are getting A/A+'s. You can try that if you want... :idea:

[lutzmia]

GPA is directly related to how intelligent and capable you are in the field of study you take. Someone who does well in engineering might utterly fail when they take "arts" or social science courses.

The Liberal Arts programs tend to have the highest number of graduating students from what I've seen.

[noregister]

GPA is directly related to how intelligent and capable you are in the field of study you take. Someone who does well in engineering might utterly fail when they take "arts" or social science courses.


While that's true, in arts it's more important that you be a likeable person and that you be social. The reason being that a lot of arts related testing and grading isn't objective. I would argue that your GPA is directly related to how intelligent and capable you are if you are pursuing a math degree or many other science degrees, but it's less true for arts degrees in general. Essays and participation marks ensure that.

And for that reason, a really intelligent person might be better off pursuing something like math where they won't be at the mercy of a professor's or TA's subjective or simply *******-like grading. And stupid people who want a high GPA are probably better off in arts because it's easier to hide your stupdity in the subjectivity of it all. Obviously that wouldn't apply to something like economics though. Plus with arts as long as you can pump out decent essays and memorize a lot of facts, you can just regurgitate what you've read without really understanding it. Science degrees at good schools typically demand a greater level of understanding. And there's no bastardized substitution that will still get you partial marks.

[Mr.Sea]

Research and take courses from profs that cater to your learning style.

[lutzmia]

While that's true, in arts it's more important that you be a likeable person and that you be social. The reason being that a lot of arts related testing and grading isn't objective. I would argue that your GPA is directly related to how intelligent and capable you are if you are pursuing a math degree or many other science degrees, but it's less true for arts degrees in general. Essays and participation marks ensure that.

And for that reason, a really intelligent person might be better off pursuing something like math where they won't be at the mercy of a professor's or TA's subjective or simply *******-like grading. And stupid people who want a high GPA are probably better off in arts because it's easier to hide your stupdity in the subjectivity of it all. Obviously that wouldn't apply to something like economics though. Plus with arts as long as you can pump out decent essays and memorize a lot of facts, you can just regurgitate what you've read without really understanding it. Science degrees at good schools typically demand a greater level of understanding. And there's no bastardized substitution that will still get you partial marks.


At the undergraduate university level:

With arts subjects like philosophy, economics, sociology, or politics -- there are hard-learned theories -- if you're going to write essays, then you can spew out any position - as long as you can defend yourself. If you have a good professor or TA, you'll be able to write an essay defending fascism or communism and still get marks if you can logically defend your position. Generally, students in these programs tend to do well in critical thinking.

Science subjects like biology require memorization and regurgitation.

Social science subjects like psychology require memorization, theoretical understanding, and critical application - also requires some level of creative intelligence and flexibility as subjects vary from subjective arenas such as educational psychology to more objective arenas such as neuropsychology.

Math requires memorization and regurgitation -- all you're really doing is applying the same formulas over and over again. Math is often the easiest subject to master at, as all it takes is constant practice. Unless, of course, you go into statistics, which requires some level of creativity and critical application - statistics and lies, as they say!

A science like engineering requires memorization, creative thinking, and application.

That's only at the undergraduate level. All graduate levels, no matter the subject, require the same skill-sets - albeit relying on different known facts.

Didn't know what the point of your comment was, but I went into detail so people reading this don't fall for the trap of "arts" versus "science." There are too many differences between all subjects, that it's not worthwhile to have a broad distinction.

PS: I was using the scientific definition of "intelligence." In science, intelligence includes social and emotional intelligence. One can read books and solving complex formulas all day long -- if you are incapable of being social, then some people may suggest that your intelligence is not fully developed as you would lack the emotional intelligence necessary for society. Just as - one may have the solid intelligence for memorizing and regurgitating mathematical theory, but might lack the creative and inventive intelligence that some statisticians and some engineers display.

[MeasureTheory]

Math requires memorization and regurgitation -- all you're really doing is applying the same formulas over and over again. Math is often the easiest subject to master at, as all it takes is constant practice. Unless, of course, you go into statistics, which requires some level of creativity and critical application - statistics and lies, as they say!

A science like engineering requires memorization, creative thinking, and application.

You've clearly never taken a math course beyond first year. Anyone who makes the laughable claim that "Math requires memorization and regurgitation" is uninformed/uneducated. In advanced math courses, you spend most of your time doing proofs. For instance, in courses like Real Analysis, Topology, Abstract Algebra, etc - you will learn rigorous definitions of concepts utilized in an introductory course (such as limits, differentiation, integration, etc) and various theorems dealing with these subjects. From the definitions and the theorems, you have to derive certain results using those rigorous definitions and theorems through the use of logic. There are numerous ways to prove the same result, and rarely will two people have the same proof. So there is a huge amount of "creative thinking," problem solving, reasoning, and application of logic involved. In fact, upper level Real Analysis is considered to be the toughest undergraduate course of any program at any school. Abstract Algebra and Topology are not too far behind.

Additionally, all one has to do is to look at the average GPA for each major at different schools. Math and Physics tend to be the lowest. Yet people with these majors, on average, score the highest on standardized tests such as LSAT, GRE, MCAT, etc. These are probably the toughest major in any school.

Math is more than "memorization" and it requires more than simply repetition. So OP - if you want a high GPA and if you want it to come easy, certainly don't major in math.

Also, engineering is not a "science."

[MeasureTheory]

PS: I was using the scientific definition of "intelligence." In science, intelligence includes social and emotional intelligence. One can read books and solving complex formulas all day long -- if you are incapable of being social, then some people may suggest that your intelligence is not fully developed as you would lack the emotional intelligence necessary for society. Just as - one may have the solid intelligence for memorizing and regurgitating mathematical theory, but might lack the creative and inventive intelligence that some statisticians and some engineers display.

Also, based on standardized test scores, which are often a proxy for IQ - mathematicians outperform engineers (in fact, they are #1) by a considerable margin, on average. These tests contain logic, analytical, critical thinking, and reading comprehension sections. "Emotional intelligence" is not quantifiable and I doubt you have any evidence to support your claims.

So empirically, mathematicians are smarter than engineers, political scientists, economists, philosopher, etc.

[neonlily]

Any York graduates want to pitch in and say upon convocation or during their undergrad which majors seemed to have the highest GPA?

Anything Engineering. Astrophysics.

[gman]

What's wrong? Struggling in the current program your in? if you cannot handle that, try college.

In all universities, people tend to say anything involving arts is the easiest. There are exceptions of course, for example: Economics may be a arts degree but i know a ton who struggle in that subject. So it really depends from person to person.

Try history, its pure memorization.

I believe OP is looking for the graduated program eventually such as law. That is why he asked for the easiest to get high GPA instead of the easiest to graduate. I also don't think history is pure memorization. If that is all you can do, you will not last long in history either and forget about high GPA. On the other hand, if Law is indeed what OP is aiming for, history is a good stepping stone to get there.

[Tyop]

Several friends of mine say it's fairly easy to get 8+ at Schulich and all graduates from my high school that attend there tend to agree.

[BoogieWilliams]

This is such a hard questions to ask because it depends on a lot of variables like who your professors are, who your TAs are, how far your exams/midterms/assignments are scheduled apart, how many courses you take, what your learning style is, the area that you have the best chance in, etc. This is why stupid questions are answered with a stupid answer like do whatever you like and whatever you you are good at.

Highly subjective programs such as English/History depends on how much you are liked and your relationship with your profs and TAs. Programs like math and science will most likely be easier to get an A during your first semester but good luck taking upper year Math/Science courses which are highly theoretical and involve critical analysis, like the posters above mentioned there are many ways to arrive to a conclusion in math. Personally, I think business management is the easiest to achieve high marks, you won't use a lot of math and also a lot of subjects are purely based on theory which can be memorized if you study long enough, but you also need to have a certain aptitude and passion for it. However, there are a lot of students in business and profs usually make tests hard on purpose, they put questions you have never covered or didn't know existed.

[iHop]

"Math is memorization and regurgitation"...LOL

High school math might have been but not at Uni.

[TheAnalyst]

Any York graduates want to pitch in and say upon convocation or during their undergrad which majors seemed to have the highest GPA?

Are you aiming for a TTT firm?

***** student + TTT undergrad + mediocre ECs + mediocre LSATs --> TTT school --> TTT firm?

Even though law schools don't really discount TTT programs, Ii you can't manage to do well at a relatively easy program like Schulich they're going to love you in law schools.

Looks like you're setting yourself up for a TTT life.

[hinyan]

Several friends of mine say it's fairly easy to get 8+ at Schulich and all graduates from my high school that attend there tend to agree.

LOL not easy at all maybe less then 10% do. Have to work like a dog. Also it depends what you major in.

[HTTP04]

lol at the OP's username

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