Is Canada USA's little dog?

[techcrium]

Honestly, almost every single Canadian regulation was shaped after USA's policy. We might as well just join America.

Auto Industry Bailout:
2008: It is common knowledge that USA congress approved of bailout and then Canada followed suit.

Anti Terrorism:
USA TSA: 2001
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Transportation_Security_Administration
Canada TSA: 2002
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Air_Transport_Security_Authority

USA Patriot Act Oct 26 2001
Canada Anti Terrorism Act Dec 18 2001
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canadian_Anti-Terrorism_Act

Antitrust laws:
USA Sherman Act: 1890
Canada antitrust act (created 15-20 years later) got it from class lecture

Food and Drug Act:
USA FDA 1906 Food and Drug Act
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drug_Administration#History

Canada Food and Drug Act was passed in 1920.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Food_and_Drugs_Act

FBI and RCMP:
USA FBI Established in 1908
Canada RCMP Established in 1920
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Canadian_Mounted_Police

Declare War on Japan:
USA Declared war on Japan on Dec 7
Canada Declared war on Japan on Dec 8
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Declaration_of_war_by_the_United_States

Japan Reparation and Redress:
Even s* t like Japanese Internment, USA signed reparation act BEFORE Canada
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_Canadian_internment#Resettlement_and_repa triation
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Japanese_American_redress_and_court_cases
"On September 22, 1988, Prime Minister Brian Mulroney gave a formal apology and the Canadian government announced a compensation package, one month after President Ronald Reagan made similar gestures in the United States."

The New Deal:
USA New Deal established by FDR in 1932.
Canada New Deal established by Bennet who obviously copied FDR in 1935
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/New_Deal

Black Friday
Canada is starting to celebrate Black Friday more and more, which originated from US.
American's don't celebrate Boxing Day.

Plenty of more proof to come.

[zz000ter]

Unfortunately Harper is a lapdog
I would not be surprised if there were some American "advisors"
in Harper's office telling him what to do

[techcrium]

Unfortunately Harper is a lapdog
I would not be surprised if there were some American "advisors"
in Harper's office telling him what to do

This has little bearing with current president. If you look at my examples, some of them spanned from 100 years ago.

[JustBob]

Yeah, we should have declared war on Japan before the US. Surely, at least one Canadian must have had bad Teriyaki before Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

[techcrium]

Yeah, we should have declared war on Japan before the US. Surely, at least one Canadian must have had bad Teriyaki before Japan attacked Pearl Harbor.

Sure that one example was out of place. What about the 10 others? Apologizing to Japanese after Americans did. New Deal after the Americans. TSA after the Americans..etc.etc

[Sauerkraut]

Pierre Trudeau summarized the relationship much better

"c'est comme dormir avec un éléphant"

[Powder + park raider]

except canadian currency is like stronger now?

[wal3145]

As long as we are puppets, we will always be the little dog.

[ghostryder]

The Dominion police & the NWMP merged to form the RCMP. Both of these pre-date the FBI by ~50 years.


Canada declared war on Japan on Dec 7th via a proclaimation by the PM. Parliament wasn't even sitting at the time. When they returned in January the proclaimation passed with little objection. King George VI expressed his approval publicly on Dec 8th, effectively signaling that the actual bill, when passed by parliament (when it resumed) would get immediate royal ascent. Most considered the proclaimation simply an extention of the declaration from 1939 as war on Japan was part of the same war that had already started.

BTW, do you know when the US declared war on Germany?

How about WWI? When did the US declare war then?


Canada had a "competition act" aka anti-trust legislation that pre-dates the Sherman act. The "Act for the Prevention and Suppression of Combines formed in restrained of Trade" passed in 1889.

[MrKap]

Honestly, almost every single Canadian regulation was shaped after USA's policy. We might as well just join America.

Geographically we are right next to each other, and in some regards we are very similar.

I am not sure if there would be any benefit of losing some sort of national distinction.

Would there be any advantages to somehow joining the USA?

To my understanding they have alot of freedom at the state government level, so if Canada ever essentially became a "state" of the USA, and we lost or somehow merged our Federal government, then maybe it might be a good thing?

Maybe if the United States broke their federal into two parts, north and south, federal government, and then Canada's became a third National government, along with Mexico becoming a fourth national government, and a new Supreme Federal Government to rule all over the regional federals, and state/provincial governments, sure.

Otherwise how would it work? I don't know enough about it.


Something like that will probably happen someday, but it will probably be centuries from now, jmo... Who knows?

[toalan]

I think Canada is ok, we have enough independence to stay out of Iraq, those poor Brits though got suckered into Iraq, they are a bigger lapdog than we are.

[MrKap]

Yeah I sort of snubbed the UK there didn't I?

Maybe getting better relations with Iceland is a good idea too?

http://www.huffingtonpost.ca/2012/03/12/iceland-canadian-dollar-loonie_n_1338872.html


That is the clearest sign yet that Iceland’s government may be open to ideas other than joining the EU, and taking seriously public opinion polls showing a majority of Icelanders oppose the EU, while many support the idea Iceland should unilaterally adopt the Canadian dollar.

A recent poll found that more than 56 per cent of Icelanders oppose EU accession in the wake of the debt crises that have rocked Greece and other eurozone members. Although entry into the EU does not necessarily mean joining the euro, in practicality most countries are expected to join the common currency.


So scratch that last idea. Canada's and the UK's government would somehow merge to form a new federal, after all they should be very similar to each other, right?

The the USA would split it's federal into North and South. Mexico would be a separate Federal. So that leaves four federals, and a supreme federal government to rule over them all.

The supreme Federal of course would be located in Canada. Yeah right, we all know it would be in the USA somewhere.



Here's what MacCleans says about Iceland. They say it's a good idea.

http://www2.macleans.ca/2012/03/22/canada-should-embrace-the-loonification-of-iceland/


Canada should embrace the loonification of Iceland
New economic, social and political ties between the countries are all good incentives

...
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The adoption of the Canadian dollar by Iceland would create an incentive for new economic ties between the countries, and social and political ties are rarely slow to follow. Is that worth something? The Norwegians, our fellow oil exporters, seem to think so: one of their top economists, Oystein Noreng, wrote a newspaper article this month urging Iceland to adopt Norway’s currency. It would, he contended, lay the groundwork for partnership between the two countries on circumpolar issues and economic policy—even future Icelandic oil development. “Canada” substitutes pretty neatly for “Norway” in his argument, so shouldn’t somebody be making the sales pitch on our behalf?

[lordnikon]

If Canada follows the US on healthcare, we are doomed.

[iEyeCaptain]

If Canada follows the US on healthcare, we are doomed.

Looks like it's happening the other way around as it stands right now..

[Rainne]

Basically. We need the US to protect us (military).

[Syne]

Basically. We need the US to protect us (military).

A common misconception. Our ties to the British and our affable nature are more than enough to curtail any would-be aggressors.

The key to being a peaceful nation is running your own nation while respecting the sovereignty of other nations, a concept that the US doesn't seem to understand. The US is more like the drunk friend at the bar who keeps grabbing the asses of random females who walk by.

[stealth]

"...USA's little dog"?
No, our cultures, lifestyles, economies, history, paths are just so intertwined that its hard not to have some parallels.

[feidailo]

yes. we are usa's little FEMALE dog.

who knew harper had a taste for chocolate...

[KDSet]

We might as well just join America.

Why not, considering Canada only exists because a bunch of Americans chose to remain loyal to Britain.

[stealth]

A common misconception. Our ties to the British and our affable nature are more than enough to curtail any would-be aggressors.

The key to being a peaceful nation is running your own nation while respecting the sovereignty of other nations, a concept that the US doesn't seem to understand. The US is more like the drunk friend at the bar who keeps grabbing the asses of random females who walk by.

I dont agree with this at all.
Firstly, I dont think the British could do anything against a real foe, with the might of say, Russia or China. Might as well stay home or meddle in something more manageable like the Falklands.

And in your analogy, I see the US as more of an overzealous bouncer at the bar, or even a bartender who looks after his regulars/big tippers while ignoring other patrons.

[tighty whities]

The US is more like the drunk friend at the bar who keeps grabbing the asses of random females who walk by.

The American will eventually sober up and then pick up, since he has the balls to.

Meanwhile the Canadian sits in the corner by himself, eventually goes home to fap, signs onto RFD and complains about Americans and how women are bit*hes and are unapproachable.

[kennyhohoho]

Canada is Milhouse to USA's Bart.

[Syne]

I dont agree with this at all.
Firstly, I dont think the British could do anything against a real foe, with the might of say, Russia or China. Might as well stay home or meddle in something more manageable like the Falklands.

But there is no valid pretext to invade Canada. Even if we put 0$ into our military budget, what possible justification could Russia or China use for an invasion, with the whole world watching? Who needs nukes when you have Youtube?


And in your analogy, I see the US as more of an overzealous bouncer at the bar, or even a bartender who looks after his regulars/big tippers while ignoring other patrons.

Must be a self-appointed bouncer then, because they don't seem to be accountable to any hiring manager.

Make no mistake, when someone like Ann Coulter and the rest of the 'might is right' league say we Canadians should ingratiate ourselves to the US, it's not because they are protecting us from the other kids. They want to tax Canada so the US won't steal our lunch money. That's the difference between protection and a thinly veiled threat.

[MrKap]

Make no mistake, when someone like Ann Coulter and the rest of the 'might is right' league say we Canadians should ingratiate ourselves to the US, it's not because they are protecting us from the other kids. They want to tax Canada so the US won't steal our lunch money. That's the difference between protection and a thinly veiled threat.

Did she say that? What does she say about Mexico. :O

[Rainne]

A common misconception. Our ties to the British and our affable nature are more than enough to curtail any would-be aggressors.

The key to being a peaceful nation is running your own nation while respecting the sovereignty of other nations, a concept that the US doesn't seem to understand. The US is more like the drunk friend at the bar who keeps grabbing the asses of random females who walk by.

We are literally attached to the USA and on the same continent. Whoever invades us will have a foothold onto US soils.

[UrbanPoet]

Why so negative? Why use such negative wording to describe the diplomatic relations between CAnada and USA?
While yes... This does put a bruise on the culture and ego of Canadianism, such relationship is required and economically benificial to CAnada.

The US is Canada's biggest trading partner. It is only natural to have a relationship with those around you, including countries.

Would you like it if Canada severed all ties with the US? Just imagine such political and diplomatic ramifications of such actions.

[r1lee]

Unfortunately Harper is a lapdog
I would not be surprised if there were some American "advisors"
in Harper's office telling him what to do

lol :facepalm: that's right blame the guy in power the last few years instead of the long history of PM's that we have had.


If Canada follows the US on healthcare, we are doomed.


Looks like it's happening the other way around as it stands right now..

our's doesn't work as we're bleeding. Their's doesn't cover enough of their citizens. Maybe a mix system would work best, would never know if you never tried.

[ilove]

But there is no valid pretext to invade Canada. Even if we put 0$ into our military budget, what possible justification could Russia or China use for an invasion, with the whole world watching? Who needs nukes when you have Youtube?

"Justification" is in the eye of the beholder. What "justifications" of some of the most recent invasions do you think passed the test of the "Youtubers" you're speaking of?

[eudaii]

Canada is USA's friendlier, sane older brother

[JustBob]

The US is a crumbling empire. Give it a couple of decades and we'll be able to take it over without even having to fight. In the meantime, let's keep pretending we're a lot like them so as not to arouse suspicion.

[Syne]

"Justification" is in the eye of the beholder. What "justifications" of some of the most recent invasions do you think passed the test of the "Youtubers" you're speaking of?

Good question. I'd say there has been an incredible grassroots backlash against foreign military intervention in Iraq and Afghanistan, Libya, Egypt, etc. But even those can't really be paralleled to an invasion of Canada, as we are a thriving democracy. The US is using the "Arab Spring" as a catalyst to expand their empire, and they're using WWII to keep troops in Germany.. but just a cold invasion of Canada, a country with no major civil unrest or fantasies of world domination?

I don't thing we need to put a penny into our military. It's a complete waste of money.