Transfer Students, What Were Your Marks and Experience??

[geokilla]

Yes I know it's late, but students that transferred from one university/program to another, what were your marks? I'm currently in 2nd year at Ryerson studying business management (Accounting), and I'm thinking of applying for a transfer. My mom is fine with it but she's worried that I'll just be wasting time and money applying for a transfer if my marks aren't good enough. If I transfer, I'm thinking of continuing to study business, but I'm open to other options as well. Actually quite interested in law right now, though by no means am I planning to become a lawyer.

So if you're a transfer student, your feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

[dankup]

Yes I know it's late, but students that transferred from one university/program to another, what were your marks? I'm currently in 2nd year at Ryerson studying business management (Accounting), and I'm thinking of applying for a transfer. My mom is fine with it but she's worried that I'll just be wasting time and money applying for a transfer if my marks aren't good enough. If I transfer, I'm thinking of continuing to study business, but I'm open to other options as well. Actually quite interested in law right now, though by no means am I planning to become a lawyer.

So if you're a transfer student, your feedback is greatly appreciated. Thanks!

Hey man I'm going through the whole process right now. My marks are mid 70s right now but I haven't been accepted anywhere yet (because I haven't applied yet). Make sure you do it soon.. deadline is May 1st for most universities. You apply on OUAC using the 105D application but it costs way more to apply as a transfer student then when you were doing it in grade 12. If you're done your exams and have time to spare start researching now. You've got a little over a week. Look at what high school average you would need to enroll in the program and go from there. For example, if you need a 90 for Schulich but have a 70 right now - don't apply. Most importantly, research what you want to know BEFORE you apply for the program. I make a notepad file for every university I'm interested in and give their admissions/co-op office/business department/fees office a call to get things straightened out. You're not wasting any time by sitting at the computer for a day reading about McMaster and Waterloo, for example. Money - yeah, but it's only a few hundred dollars if you're choosing 2 or 3 programs I think. If you've got a part time job, you can earn that money in a few days. If you're really open on other options.. you can try a year in college (just a suggestion). Cheaper, you might actually like it, try a new field. I was actually thinking about that today and now I'm lost on what I want to study.. again. Just today I told myself I don't want to spend the next 40 years in a suit at a desk. FML. Message if you have any more questions. Not guaranteeing that I will give you an answer - but I'm going through the process just like you.

[geokilla]

Quick reply here... My exams don't end until the 27th. I start on the 23rd. Dunno if it's a blessing...

Ya I did some quick research today and made my 105D account. It's like a over $200. Definitely not gonna transfer as a first year student if I can avoid it to save myself some time and money. I'm kinda stumped on what program I want to do though... Marks are a huge thing as well, but I think it's more important to find an interest in what I like. So far, I'm not liking Accounting as much as I thought I would, probably because of the billion rules and theory behind it. It's definitely a good career and program, but like many say, you're better off doing something that you like. Not doing something for the money.

I looked at legal assistant and everything, but it seems those are a College program/degree/diploma and not University program/degree/diploma. Not quite sure if I want to do that.... I'm actually thinking of e-mailing my Law prof and see if he can give any advice with regards to careers in the legal/law field lol. I understand law has tons of theory and rules too, but I dunno. It's just more appealing right now, so definitely one of my options if I transfer.

Send me a PM DANKUP if you want to discuss via PM. I myself don't mind. What are you looking to change to though? I know you're a TRSBM student.

[dankup]

Quick reply here... My exams don't end until the 27th. I start on the 23rd. Dunno if it's a blessing...

Ya I did some quick research today and made my 105D account. It's like a over $200. Definitely not gonna transfer as a first year student if I can avoid it to save myself some time and money. I'm kinda stumped on what program I want to do though... Marks are a huge thing as well, but I think it's more important to find an interest in what I like. So far, I'm not liking Accounting as much as I thought I would, probably because of the billion rules and theory behind it. It's definitely a good career and program, but like many say, you're better off doing something that you like. Not doing something for the money.

I looked at legal assistant and everything, but it seems those are a College program/degree/diploma and not University program/degree/diploma. Not quite sure if I want to do that.... I'm actually thinking of e-mailing my Law prof and see if he can give any advice with regards to careers in the legal/law field lol. I understand law has tons of theory and rules too, but I dunno. It's just more appealing right now, so definitely one of my options if I transfer.

Send me a PM DANKUP if you want to discuss via PM. I myself don't mind. What are you looking to change to though? I know you're a TRSBM student.

If you're not gonna transfer as a 1st year, and will do it after 2nd year - you'll lose both money (paying another $7,000) for tuition and time, if you choose to do something irrelevant to business. Marks are important - yes. But think about it, if you're doing something you like you will challenge yourself even if it's something you've never done before. Guess what I'm trying to say is you're most likely never going to succeed in something you don't enjoy. If you do something you like and you come across something new but related to your field you'll most likely challenge yourself until you master that new theory/concept/hands on learning experience and feel good about it. You're in TRS - you've taken ITM 102, I have an exam for it next week. I read one chapter, fell asleep, and will never open the book again because something like information technology isn't in my blood. Someone in my class might like it, and that's cool, that's why there are literally thousands of jobs today; you find something you like. Forgot what the concept is called but.. you get more satisfaction from doing something you enjoy even if you get paid less than doing something you hate but getting paid more. Marginal utility? I forget lol. Email your prof and ask for a suggestion but there's nothing wrong with college programs.. Like you say, there are some jobs that you are better prepared for by going to college. We've both fallen into the brainwash of university>anything. Say you end up doing ANOTHER year of accounting/law at Ryerson and realize you don't like it. You've a) spent $7,000 instead of $3,000 by going to university for another year compared to college and b) spent your time doing something you didn't want to do. As for me, I thought I wanted to do accounting merely because I got good grades on it in high school and now in 1st year but started to realize I don't want to sit at a desk for the next 40 years. I also don't really want to get a CMA/CGA/CA designation as that requires even more schooling and tests. My goal is to work, and get paid enough to support myself and my future family. I don't want none of this graduate school/PhD/research.

[windforcexx28]

If you're going to transfer, do it as soon as you can. The longer you stall, the more credits you will lose via transfer and the more time you would've lost as a result of not transferring sooner. Regarding the marks, it depends on the program you apply, but generally you can use the high school mark requirements (minus 5) as an indicator for the marks you need to get into a program. For example, you have a good chance of getting in if you have a 80 average for a program that needs 85 or lower. Of course, it does also depend on the program as well, seeing how some programs don't accept transfer or have really limited spots for transfer students.

Which programs are you looking to transfer into?

[dankup]

If you're going to transfer, do it as soon as you can. The longer you stall, the more credits you will lose via transfer and the more time you would've lost as a result of not transferring sooner. Regarding the marks, it depends on the program you apply, but generally you can use the high school mark requirements (minus 5) as an indicator for the marks you need to get into a program. For example, you have a good chance of getting in if you have a 80 average for a program that needs 85 or lower. Of course, it does also depend on the program as well, seeing how some programs don't accept transfer or have really limited spots for transfer students.

Which programs are you looking to transfer into?

Exactly what I said. Time and money will be spared the faster you realize (if) you don't want to be in business/law and not attend Ryerson. I didn't mention something big yesterday but remembered it now. College programs don't have application dates. You can literally apply August 31st, and start attending the college the first week of September (if you get accepted). What I decided to do is apply only to 1 university program and see if I get accepted. If not, I'm going to start researching on college programs and apply anytime in the summer. Acceptances for colleges are ongoing if the program you apply to isn't full. For university, it's May 1st or nothing. You're also probably gonna get a good scholarship if you go to college.. at least for the first year.

[Typhoonz]

I had a 4.0 when I transferred.

[geokilla]

If you're going to transfer, do it as soon as you can. The longer you stall, the more credits you will lose via transfer and the more time you would've lost as a result of not transferring sooner. Regarding the marks, it depends on the program you apply, but generally you can use the high school mark requirements (minus 5) as an indicator for the marks you need to get into a program. For example, you have a good chance of getting in if you have a 80 average for a program that needs 85 or lower. Of course, it does also depend on the program as well, seeing how some programs don't accept transfer or have really limited spots for transfer students.

Which programs are you looking to transfer into?

Ya I understand that you lose credits, that's why I'm not considering taking summer school at Ryerson as I am serious about transferring out. My marks aren't as high as I want them to be and after this semester.... brutal ACC 514 is brutal. Same goes for FIN 401... I did see that you can choose when to send a transcript. There's pros and cons of sending out the transcript now as opposed to waiting till I finish the winter semester I already saw that lots of Universities stopped accepting applications, such as Waterloo for Accounting.

I'm not quite sure what I want to transfer to... That's the problem. 3 years ago, I thought I'd do Accounting/Business. Now.... not quite sure. Currently interested in law like I said, but by no means do I want to be a lawyer, that's for sure. The law course we have to take at Ryerson (LAW 122) is really interesting, even though the professor I currently got might be a tad boring.


Exactly what I said. Time and money will be spared the faster you realize (if) you don't want to be in business/law and not attend Ryerson. I didn't mention something big yesterday but remembered it now. College programs don't have application dates. You can literally apply August 31st, and start attending the college the first week of September (if you get accepted). What I decided to do is apply only to 1 university program and see if I get accepted. If not, I'm going to start researching on college programs and apply anytime in the summer. Acceptances for colleges are ongoing if the program you apply to isn't full. For university, it's May 1st or nothing. You're also probably gonna get a good scholarship if you go to college.. at least for the first year.

Note that for OUAC 105D, whether you apply for 1 program or 3 programs, the cost is still over $200. Might as well apply for 3 programs?

What are you gonna apply for?

Btw I'm finishing up second year so that's... $15k gone lol.

[dankup]

Ya I understand that you lose credits, that's why I'm not considering taking summer school at Ryerson as I am serious about transferring out. My marks aren't as high as I want them to be and after this semester.... brutal ACC 514 is brutal. Same goes for FIN 401... I did see that you can choose when to send a transcript. There's pros and cons of sending out the transcript now as opposed to waiting till I finish the winter semester I already saw that lots of Universities stopped accepting applications, such as Waterloo for Accounting.

I'm not quite sure what I want to transfer to... That's the problem. 3 years ago, I thought I'd do Accounting/Business. Now.... not quite sure. Currently interested in law like I said, but by no means do I want to be a lawyer, that's for sure. The law course we have to take at Ryerson (LAW 122) is really interesting, even though the professor I currently got might be a tad boring.



Note that for OUAC 105D, whether you apply for 1 program or 3 programs, the cost is still over $200. Might as well apply for 3 programs?

What are you gonna apply for?

Btw I'm finishing up second year so that's... $15k gone lol.

It still depends on the number of programs. If I apply to 1 program - it's $190. If I apply to 2 programs it comes out to $250 and so on. I guess you're in second year now because you've got the intermediate accounting course and LAW 122? Universities don't accept transfer students after 2nd year because of the general rule: you need to do at least half the degree there to get the paper saying you graduated from that university. I'm most likely gonna apply to accounting at Guelph and see if I get accepted or not. I pretty much know I'm not going to Ryerson next year 'cause I can't stand the place.. (no offense). Tell you what man, take your summer volunteering at places of interest or getting your friends to hook you up for a "take your kid to work day" with their parents. Let me be clear - and you already know this: we don't know what accounting or law is like by sitting in TRS 1-067 listening to a professor bore you with yet another GAAP. The only time you find out what it's like is when you go to work, i.e land an internship, get accepted for co-op. If you get accepted to a university with co-op for 2nd year and find out accounting/law isn't what you thought it would be - you wasted only half your money on a degree and not the ~$30,000 for all four years only to start again in another field. Co-op at universities starts the summer of 2nd year so most first year students that get accepted aren't behind. Find out what it's like to be an accountant, or a lawyer (but you said you don't want to be one..), or a detective, or forensic accountant (combining law and accounting?) and go from there. You can't really say you don't like accounting by doing Lyryx questions and sitting in class..

I thought of trying out skilled trades this summer so I'm getting my friend (who is in a skilled trades program at college) to let me work with him on his car/truck, etc. This summer I'll find out what it's like and make a decision. Can't sit at your desk all day and say you like accounting.. no law.. no biology.. etc.

[nmichelle]

Transferred out of Waterloo to McGill (Arts) after my 2nd year with a GPA of around 3.7. I mostly got all my credits transferred in (except for 3).

Depending on the transfer credit procedures of each school, it might be a bit of a pain getting your transfer credits credited (it was for me!). If you want to transfer, do it this year. It'll be harder to transfer as a 3rd year student (going on your 4rth when you enter your new school). Like dankup said, schools have a residency requirement (where half of the required credits must be taken at the school) so if you do it late in your schooling, you might have to repeat an extra year or so.

[dankup]

Transferred out of Waterloo to McGill (Arts) after my 2nd year with a GPA of around 3.7. I mostly got all my credits transferred in (except for 3).

Depending on the transfer credit procedures of each school, it might be a bit of a pain getting your transfer credits credited (it was for me!). If you want to transfer, do it this year. It'll be harder to transfer as a 3rd year student (going on your 4rth when you enter your new school). Like dankup said, schools have a residency requirement (where half of the required credits must be taken at the school) so if you do it late in your schooling, you might have to repeat an extra year or so.

^Wasting more money, and more time. Yup.

[geokilla]

It still depends on the number of programs. If I apply to 1 program - it's $190. If I apply to 2 programs it comes out to $250 and so on. I guess you're in second year now because you've got the intermediate accounting course and LAW 122? Universities don't accept transfer students after 2nd year because of the general rule: you need to do at least half the degree there to get the paper saying you graduated from that university. I'm most likely gonna apply to accounting at Guelph and see if I get accepted or not. I pretty much know I'm not going to Ryerson next year 'cause I can't stand the place.. (no offense). Tell you what man, take your summer volunteering at places of interest or getting your friends to hook you up for a "take your kid to work day" with their parents. Let me be clear - and you already know this: we don't know what accounting or law is like by sitting in TRS 1-067 listening to a professor bore you with yet another GAAP. The only time you find out what it's like is when you go to work, i.e land an internship, get accepted for co-op. If you get accepted to a university with co-op for 2nd year and find out accounting/law isn't what you thought it would be - you wasted only half your money on a degree and not the ~$30,000 for all four years only to start again in another field. Co-op at universities starts the summer of 2nd year so most first year students that get accepted aren't behind. Find out what it's like to be an accountant, or a lawyer (but you said you don't want to be one..), or a detective, or forensic accountant (combining law and accounting?) and go from there. You can't really say you don't like accounting by doing Lyryx questions and sitting in class..

I thought of trying out skilled trades this summer so I'm getting my friend (who is in a skilled trades program at college) to let me work with him on his car/truck, etc. This summer I'll find out what it's like and make a decision. Can't sit at your desk all day and say you like accounting.. no law.. no biology.. etc.

I don't think so, with regards to the cost. On the OUAC 105D site it says:

Base Application Fee - $130 - For initial three university/program choices.
Supplemental/Document Evaluation Fees - $80 for Ryerson - Getting charged $85????

Yea hands on dealing with the paperwork and stuff is the best way for me to figure out if I really want to do that, as you said. I myself like numbers and don't mind sitting in an office or cubicle. Unfortunately, a lot of companies also don't let you do this kinda thing if you got no experience. Ryerson doesn't offer co-op and internships are fairly late to sign up now. Nevertheless, I'll explore that after my exams. I guess the first thing I should do aside from studying for exams, is to determine what other programs are suitable for me. Currently looking at IT as well...


Transferred out of Waterloo to McGill (Arts) after my 2nd year with a GPA of around 3.7. I mostly got all my credits transferred in (except for 3).

Depending on the transfer credit procedures of each school, it might be a bit of a pain getting your transfer credits credited (it was for me!). If you want to transfer, do it this year. It'll be harder to transfer as a 3rd year student (going on your 4rth when you enter your new school). Like dankup said, schools have a residency requirement (where half of the required credits must be taken at the school) so if you do it late in your schooling, you might have to repeat an extra year or so.

Were you just transferring from school to school? That's pretty amazing, getting most of your credits transferred over. Sadly I'll have to take at least an extra semester, so money ain't a huge factor at this stage.

[dankup]

I don't think so, with regards to the cost. On the OUAC 105D site it says:

Base Application Fee - $130 - For initial three university/program choices.
Supplemental/Document Evaluation Fees - $80 for Ryerson - Getting charged $85????

Yea hands on dealing with the paperwork and stuff is the best way for me to figure out if I really want to do that, as you said. I myself like numbers and don't mind sitting in an office or cubicle. Unfortunately, a lot of companies also don't let you do this kinda thing if you got no experience. Ryerson doesn't offer co-op and internships are fairly late to sign up now. Nevertheless, I'll explore that after my exams. I guess the first thing I should do aside from studying for exams, is to determine what other programs are suitable for me. Currently looking at IT as well...



Were you just transferring from school to school? That's pretty amazing, getting most of your credits transferred over. Sadly I'll have to take at least an extra semester, so money ain't a huge factor at this stage.

On my application the total amount goes up as I increase the number of universities. Regardless, I'm not going to Ryerson next year cause of my application to Guelph. If I won't get accepted I'll probably switch programs as my friend is giving me his textbooks and notes for the summer so I can get a broad understanding of motive power technician work.

[CatDog]

I hate Ryerson and it's the biggest academic mistake I've made. With that being said...

Dankup if you don't want to be a suit fine, but switching to Guelph for ACC is a dumb decision.

Geo, it's too late for you unless you're okay losing money. If your grades are **** and Ted is that difficult for you, I doubt you'll succeed elsewhere.

[trunkstt]

in the same process as you guys, going to finish my applications next week, ( after i finish my last exam). My gpa looks really good, so hopefully i get accepted.

[dankup]

I hate Ryerson and it's the biggest academic mistake I've made. With that being said...

Dankup if you don't want to be a suit fine, but switching to Guelph for ACC is a dumb decision.

Geo, it's too late for you unless you're okay losing money. If your grades are **** and Ted is that difficult for you, I doubt you'll succeed elsewhere.

Don't know what "if you don't want to be a suit fine" means :/ Anyways, don't know if I mentioned it or not. I said I'll think about accepting the offer IF I get accepted. I asked you yesterday and didn't see a response from you - how come you never applied anywhere else/transferred out of Ryerson? My friends and I hate the place so we're doing everything we can to leave.. you and I clearly have something in common. I just don't see why you're still attending and not trying to transfer.

[dankup]

in the same process as you guys, going to finish my applications next week, ( after i finish my last exam). My gpa looks really good, so hopefully i get accepted.

What are you in? What are you applying to? Share your experience!

[geokilla]

Don't know what "if you don't want to be a suit fine" means :/ Anyways, don't know if I mentioned it or not. I said I'll think about accepting the offer IF I get accepted. I asked you yesterday and didn't see a response from you - how come you never applied anywhere else/transferred out of Ryerson? My friends and I hate the place so we're doing everything we can to leave.. you and I clearly have something in common. I just don't see why you're still attending and not trying to transfer.

Just ignore the guy. He's too cocky for his own good. He's transferring out.

On a side note, I don't think you mentioned this. Why are you going to Guelph? Or want to rather?

[dankup]

Just ignore the guy. He's too cocky for his own good. He's transferring out.

On a side note, I don't think you mentioned this. Why are you going to Guelph? Or want to rather?

I'll list some reasons but not all (cause they're not exactly nice lol). I have a few friends there that I can room with, cheaper housing than in the city, I want a campus - not the downtown of a city, want to see what it's like to live on my own and care for myself instead of getting my food and laundry handed to me, I don't enjoy seeing dudes praising Jesus and drumming on the busiest intersection in Toronto, I have 0 friends at Ryerson, I hate taking the subway and then bus to get to school and then back home, waking up 2 hours before class leading to either less studying or less sleep - or both. They might be bad reasons (some are, I'll admit it) but I really don't like it. I came home depressed pretty much everyday last semester.. I'm only here because I took 1 math in grade 12, I'm currently completing advanced functions to have a change at Guelph.

[windforcexx28]

I'll list some reasons but not all (cause they're not exactly nice lol). I have a few friends there that I can room with, cheaper housing than in the city, I want a campus - not the downtown of a city, want to see what it's like to live on my own and care for myself instead of getting my food and laundry handed to me, I don't enjoy seeing dudes praising Jesus and drumming on the busiest intersection in Toronto, I have 0 friends at Ryerson, I hate taking the subway and then bus to get to school and then back home, waking up 2 hours before class leading to either less studying or less sleep - or both. They might be bad reasons (some are, I'll admit it) but I really don't like it. I came home depressed pretty much everyday last semester.. I'm only here because I took 1 math in grade 12, I'm currently completing advanced functions to have a change at Guelph.

This is almost the complete opposite to why I transferred. :-0

Before making the transfer, make sure you see yourself being happy at Guelph. You don't want to transfer and end up hating the place just as much for other aspects that you did not think of before.

[dankup]

This is almost the complete opposite to why I transferred. :-0

Before making the transfer, make sure you see yourself being happy at Guelph. You don't want to transfer and end up hating the place just as much for other aspects that you did not think of before.

Of course not! If I get accepted and choose to go there, I'll get my friend to walk me around for a day and give me a proper tour. I'm not making the same mistake twice. And geo, why do you want to transfer? And what's different about it, windforce? Why'd you leave :P?

[geokilla]

I'll list some reasons but not all (cause they're not exactly nice lol). I have a few friends there that I can room with, cheaper housing than in the city, I want a campus - not the downtown of a city, want to see what it's like to live on my own and care for myself instead of getting my food and laundry handed to me, I don't enjoy seeing dudes praising Jesus and drumming on the busiest intersection in Toronto, I have 0 friends at Ryerson, I hate taking the subway and then bus to get to school and then back home, waking up 2 hours before class leading to either less studying or less sleep - or both. They might be bad reasons (some are, I'll admit it) but I really don't like it. I came home depressed pretty much everyday last semester.. I'm only here because I took 1 math in grade 12, I'm currently completing advanced functions to have a change at Guelph.

You can take Grade 11/12 U/M courses even in University? My guidance counselor said you can't once you're in University. He told me that when you apply for transfers, they only look at your university transcript and not your high school marks.... Maybe he was saying that to encourage me to go to University and not waste time?

[dankup]

You can take Grade 11/12 U/M courses even in University? My guidance counselor said you can't once you're in University. He told me that when you apply for transfers, they only look at your university transcript and not your high school marks.... Maybe he was saying that to encourage me to go to University and not waste time?

You still need to meet the grade 12 requirements of that other school/program you're applying to, it doesn't matter if you're in university or not. I don't meet it, therefore I'm taking grade 12 math along with the 6 courses I have at university to apply for Guelph. Think about it, wouldn't everyone then apply to Lakehead for 1st year, get a 4.0 GPA and go to Waterloo/Queens/Western etc for 2nd year and onwards? You can't take grade 12 courses IN university, you can take them outside of it but at the same time. They take your university marks into account more, yes, but you need to fulfill the high school requirements regardless.

[CatDog]

how come you never applied anywhere else/transferred out of Ryerson? My friends and I hate the place so we're doing everything we can to leave.. you and I clearly have something in common. I just don't see why you're still attending and not trying to transfer.

Not worth it unless for me unless I decide to attend Ivey as its a 2 year program. Then I'll be paying $75k+. For you it's not too late.. for myself/geo it is imo to switch to another 4 year program.

How you feel is exactly how I feel about it, but I don't want to waste time/money by losing credits. It is what it is. I stay with my gf in Etobicoke and still rarely go to class. When I was doing 2 hour each way, it was awful. The accounting professors are awful (except a handful) and the fact the school thinks they'll be able to build a program that rivals Waterloo with their current staff shows how delusional administration is.

You need to be happy, and you need to have realistic expectations. If you want to become a CA, you're more likely to find a CATO position from attending Ryerson over Guelph. With that said, neither school are a target and very few from Ted will get a big 4 job, and even less from Guelph will.

From what I gather your level of ambition is different than mine, and that's okay. Before making any big decisions, I think you need to map out where you want to be financially in the next 10-20+ years.

EDIT: I don't doubt you'll have way more fun in Guelph, everyone gets ********d and the girls are easy. Although if you're at Ted with a couple of your high school buddies, look into renting an apartment together downtown. Maybe you'll have more fun then. Just don't accumulate a ton of debt.

[dankup]

Not worth it unless for me unless I decide to attend Ivey as its a 2 year program. Then I'll be paying $75k+. For you it's not too late.. for myself/geo it is imo to switch to another 4 year program.

How you feel is exactly how I feel about it, but I don't want to waste time/money by losing credits. It is what it is. I stay with my gf in Etobicoke and still rarely go to class. When I was doing 2 hour each way, it was awful. The accounting professors are awful (except a handful) and the fact the school thinks they'll be able to build a program that rivals Waterloo with their current staff shows how delusional administration is.

You need to be happy, and you need to have realistic expectations. If you want to become a CA, you're more likely to find a CATO position from attending Ryerson over Guelph. With that said, neither school are a target and very few from Ted will get a big 4 job, and even less from Guelph will.

From what I gather your level of ambition is different than mine, and that's okay. Before making any big decisions, I think you need to map out where you want to be financially in the next 10-20+ years.

EDIT: I don't doubt you'll have way more fun in Guelph, everyone gets ********d and the girls are easy. Although if you're at Ted with a couple of your high school buddies, look into renting an apartment together downtown. Maybe you'll have more fun then. Just don't accumulate a ton of debt.

Seems like we're on the same page. And no debt, I have enough money to cover university without asking for a single penny. University is about enjoying student life while it lasts. Have you thought about where your grave is going to be? Good, because it's too early for that - just like saying I want to work for a Big 4 company and live in a highrise condo downtown. If you want it bad enough, you'll do everything to get it and then some.

[geokilla]

Not worth it unless for me unless I decide to attend Ivey as its a 2 year program. Then I'll be paying $75k+. For you it's not too late.. for myself/geo it is imo to switch to another 4 year program.

How you feel is exactly how I feel about it, but I don't want to waste time/money by losing credits. It is what it is. I stay with my gf in Etobicoke and still rarely go to class. When I was doing 2 hour each way, it was awful. The accounting professors are awful (except a handful) and the fact the school thinks they'll be able to build a program that rivals Waterloo with their current staff shows how delusional administration is.
an mine, and that's okay. Before making any big decisions, I think you need to map out where you want to be financially in the next 10-20+ years.

This. As much as I want to switch, I also have to take into consideration that I need to pay for more and stay probably an extra year in school. Not that it matters to me as I can easily pay it off one way or another.

I'm exploring my options and programs. The thing is though even if I do finish Accounting/Finance in Ryerson, it doesn't necessarily mean I need to get an Accounting job. I know people who graduated with a chemistry degree but she's doing accounting stuff right now and working towards a CMA designation. A degree is just a degree nowadays. Can't get a good job without one.

[dankup]

This. As much as I want to switch, I also have to take into consideration that I need to pay for more and stay probably an extra year in school. Not that it matters to me as I can easily pay it off one way or another.

I'm exploring my options and programs. The thing is though even if I do finish Accounting/Finance in Ryerson, it doesn't necessarily mean I need to get an Accounting job. I know people who graduated with a chemistry degree but she's doing accounting stuff right now and working towards a CMA designation. A degree is just a degree nowadays. Can't get a good job without one.

Trades?

[CatDog]

Seems like we're on the same page. And no debt, I have enough money to cover university without asking for a single penny. University is about enjoying student life while it lasts. Have you thought about where your grave is going to be? Good, because it's too early for that - just like saying I want to work for a Big 4 company and live in a highrise condo downtown. If you want it bad enough, you'll do everything to get it and then some.

You haven't gone through recruiting and therefore you're unable to understand how competitive it is. 4.0's at Ted aren't getting interviews even. Wanting something and ambition doesn't equate to opportunity always.

Save your money IMO. Have you seen how everything in general costs?


I'm exploring my options and programs. The thing is though even if I do finish Accounting/Finance in Ryerson, it doesn't necessarily mean I need to get an Accounting job. I know people who graduated with a chemistry degree but she's doing accounting stuff right now and working towards a CMA designation. A degree is just a degree nowadays. Can't get a good job without one.


I agree. The unfortunate aspect of this is the degree opens minimal doors. During your stint at ted, you better network from day 1 otherwise, you'll join the massive unemployment list. From my understanding last year only 9 students got big 4 offers.. and we're the largest accounting student body. That says enough.

[dankup]

You haven't gone through recruiting and therefore you're unable to understand how competitive it is. 4.0's at Ted aren't getting interviews even. Wanting something and ambition doesn't equate to opportunity always.

Save your money IMO. Have you seen how everything in general costs?



I agree. The unfortunate aspect of this is the degree opens minimal doors. During your stint at ted, you better network from day 1 otherwise, you'll join the massive unemployment list. From my understanding last year only 9 students got big 4 offers.. and we're the largest accounting student body. That says enough.

Save my money?

[CatDog]

Save my money?


Just because you can transfer to guelph, party hard, and do it without accumulating debt doesn't mean you should. Many people (regardless of school) graduate without a job. You're going to need money to hold you over.

Now, if daddy/mommy are rich, go all out. Although then, you should try your best at Ted and transfer to Ivey.

[donatepresent]

Do people not think when you choose Universities? You have already failed life son. Ryerson does not need anymore embarrassing students like you guys.

[biee]

Do people not think when you choose Universities? You have already failed life son. Ryerson does not need anymore embarrassing students like you guys.

Wow, how harsh. People make mistakes in life, don't tell me you haven't:facepalm:

[geokilla]

Wow, how harsh. People make mistakes in life, don't tell me you haven't:facepalm:

He's just mad he's not in university :facepalm:

[CatDog]

Geo, donate attends Ted.

[donatepresent]

He's just mad he's not in university :facepalm:

Idiot. :facepalm: Try harder please.

[geokilla]

Geo, donate attends Ted.

??

Anyways I'm gonna call the undergrad offices tomorrow and see what they say.... Final week to apply for transfers.

[CatDog]

Donate goes to Ryerson. Ryerson biz = Ted.

[JK400]

I hate Ryerson and it's the biggest academic mistake I've made. With that being said...

Dankup if you don't want to be a suit fine, but switching to Guelph for ACC is a dumb decision.

Geo, it's too late for you unless you're okay losing money. If your grades are **** and Ted is that difficult for you, I doubt you'll succeed elsewhere.

Hey CatDog, I remember you from the careers forum. Just wondering, why did you choose Ryerson? You sound like you were a pretty smart and successful guy even from a younger age, why did you end up at Ryerson? You must have been aware of the reputation.

[mykismet]

Hey CatDog, I remember you from the careers forum. Just wondering, why did you choose Ryerson? You sound like you were a pretty smart and successful guy even from a younger age, why did you end up at Ryerson? You must have been aware of the reputation.

Must be for the girls

[CatDog]

Hey CatDog, I remember you from the careers forum. Just wondering, why did you choose Ryerson? You sound like you were a pretty smart and successful guy even from a younger age, why did you end up at Ryerson? You must have been aware of the reputation.

At that time I didn't value a university education, I just went for the piece of paper. Ryerson's tuition is considerably less than UTM's which led me to my attendance. I didn't want to live away for 4 years because I didn't want to graduate broke. My grades weren't awful, but I wouldn't have got accepted into Schulich. I didn't try and didn't care. Truthfully not much has changed since. I do not see the relationship between grades and the ability to execute.. Hell one of my franchisees is a 4.0 student at LSE, and he isn't able to execute anything without my hand holding and constant reassurance.

From the MD's/partners I've met, it doesn't seem like uot's name makes much a difference anyway (flame suit on) and both schools for the most part are lumped together during recruiting. The fantastic opportunities seem to go to Ivey/Queens kids, and to be honest they probably deserve it most.

[JK400]

At that time I didn't value a university education, I just went for the piece of paper. Ryerson's tuition is considerably less than UTM's which led me to my attendance. I didn't want to live away for 4 years because I didn't want to graduate broke. My grades weren't awful, but I wouldn't have got accepted into Schulich. I didn't try and didn't care. Truthfully not much has changed since. I do not see the relationship between grades and the ability to execute.. Hell one of my franchisees is a 4.0 student at LSE, and he isn't able to execute anything without my hand holding and constant reassurance.

From the MD's/partners I've met, it doesn't seem like uot's name makes much a difference anyway (flame suit on) and both schools for the most part are lumped together during recruiting. The fantastic opportunities seem to go to Ivey/Queens kids, and to be honest they probably deserve it most.

Fair enough, I was pretty much the same way in both high school and university as well (still did pretty good, guess I was just good at writing tests or catching on to patterns and last minute studying).

I've heard similar things from others about UofT's business program, they don't seem to be recruited at as much as places like Queen's. I guess UofT isn't the strongest for business and management. They have really good recruitment for the engineering program though, so I guess it's a program by program basis.

[CatDog]

I've heard similar things from others about UofT's business program, they don't seem to be recruited at as much as places like Queen's. I guess UofT isn't the strongest for business and management. They have really good recruitment for the engineering program though, so I guess it's a program by program basis.

Friend is doing engineering at uot. Companies are regularly holding dinners for their students, etc. I know nothing about engineering - but from what I'm told, uot is extremely challenging but there's alot of career potential.

[JK400]

Friend is doing engineering at uot. Companies are regularly holding dinners for their students, etc. I know nothing about engineering - but from what I'm told, uot is extremely challenging but there's alot of career potential.

Yup, I can vouch for the uoft engineering system (went through it myself all the way up to a master's degree). The recruitment is above average, a lot of good companies recruiting and I think more than half the student population in any given year (about 1000 or so) go out for a 16 month internship and over half of those get hired back by the company 8 months later. Overall I'd say it has above average job prospects.

[GoldenWolf]

Hey,
Currently a 2nd year Ryerson Computer Science student with a CGPA of 3.4 and (3.8 last semester and probably around there this semester and going into 3rd year) and had applied to transfer to UfT. They accepted me but I had to cancel the application since I got a coop placement through Ryerson for 16 months as software developer. Got call from UfT after I cancelled and she said I should apply after coop and they will accept me and even allow me to transfer my coop experience. Was also getting full 2 year credits (but not some liberals I had completed through chang).

Probably not going to reapply after coop but go for Grad school there, we shall see.

Hope that helps

[geokilla]

Fair enough, I was pretty much the same way in both high school and university as well (still did pretty good, guess I was just good at writing tests or catching on to patterns and last minute studying).

I've heard similar things from others about UofT's business program, they don't seem to be recruited at as much as places like Queen's. I guess UofT isn't the strongest for business and management. They have really good recruitment for the engineering program though, so I guess it's a program by program basis.


Friend is doing engineering at uot. Companies are regularly holding dinners for their students, etc. I know nothing about engineering - but from what I'm told, uot is extremely challenging but there's alot of career potential.


Yup, I can vouch for the uoft engineering system (went through it myself all the way up to a master's degree). The recruitment is above average, a lot of good companies recruiting and I think more than half the student population in any given year (about 1000 or so) go out for a 16 month internship and over half of those get hired back by the company 8 months later. Overall I'd say it has above average job prospects.

Engineering is hard no matter where you go.... I've seen my friend's course load and schedule and it's over 9000 times more difficult than business.

As for U of T's business program, it's not that great as well from what I've heard.


Hey,
Currently a 2nd year Ryerson Computer Science student with a CGPA of 3.4 and (3.8 last semester and probably around there this semester and going into 3rd year) and had applied to transfer to UfT. They accepted me but I had to cancel the application since I got a coop placement through Ryerson for 16 months as software developer. Got call from UfT after I cancelled and she said I should apply after coop and they will accept me and even allow me to transfer my coop experience. Was also getting full 2 year credits (but not some liberals I had completed through chang).

Probably not going to reapply after coop but go for Grad school there, we shall see.

Hope that helps

So you're in Ryerson BTM? It's good that you guys get co-op. I wish regular business management got co-op as well... So you're staying at Ryerson?

[GoldenWolf]

Engineering is hard no matter where you go.... I've seen my friend's course load and schedule and it's over 9000 times more difficult than business.

As for U of T's business program, it's not that great as well from what I've heard.



So you're in Ryerson BTM? It's good that you guys get co-op. I wish regular business management got co-op as well... So you're staying at Ryerson?

Computer Science, not related to Business at all or ITM for that matter even though some ITM students believe ITM is almost CS, lol and probably going to stay at Ryerson, will decide next year.

[Lovable]

I got accepted to Ivey when transferring from York but decided against it as I was not interested in finance but had previous work experience in consulting. Worked out for me, not going to say it would not have been better at Ivey but the tuition was a huge turn off along with opportunity costs (I was applying to transfer, entering 4th year so I would have lost one year's worth of tuition and delay graduation [work] another year)...

Of course, my marks = what Ivey wants from transfer students and more (work experience, volunteer, etc.).

[dankup]

Engineering is hard no matter where you go.... I've seen my friend's course load and schedule and it's over 9000 times more difficult than business.

As for U of T's business program, it's not that great as well from what I've heard.



So you're in Ryerson BTM? It's good that you guys get co-op. I wish regular business management got co-op as well... So you're staying at Ryerson?

^Computer science, not BTM. BSc not BComm.

[geokilla]

Well I just gave York Undergrad Admissions office a call and they're looking for roughly a B for the Business Program. The woman sounded like she didn't want to talk though when I inquired about transfer credits... Probably too busy to talk since there was so much background noise. Called their Business Administrative Studies a call as well and got some more info. Not quite sure if I should proceed with applications for a transfer... As we know, it's not about the school (to a certain point), but still. I'm not too happy at Ryerson and in the Business Management program..

[trunkstt]

Well I just gave York Undergrad Admissions office a call and they're looking for roughly a B for the Business Program. The woman sounded like she didn't want to talk though when I inquired about transfer credits... Probably too busy to talk since there was so much background noise. Called their Business Administrative Studies a call as well and got some more info. Not quite sure if I should proceed with applications for a transfer... As we know, it's not about the school (to a certain point), but still. I'm not too happy at Ryerson and in the Business Management program..

business program as in schulic??

[Lovable]

Well I just gave York Undergrad Admissions office a call and they're looking for roughly a B for the Business Program. The woman sounded like she didn't want to talk though when I inquired about transfer credits... Probably too busy to talk since there was so much background noise. Called their Business Administrative Studies a call as well and got some more info. Not quite sure if I should proceed with applications for a transfer... As we know, it's not about the school (to a certain point), but still. I'm not too happy at Ryerson and in the Business Management program..

If you are not happy at Ryerson, what makes you think it can be any different at York (assuming it is not Schulich). They are almost same tier albeit a much better 'University' feel... You should be aiming for Ivey or Schulich, I cannot comment on Rotman or Queens though if you want to stay within the vicinity of Ontario.

[geokilla]

business program as in schulic??


If you are not happy at Ryerson, what makes you think it can be any different at York (assuming it is not Schulich). They are almost same tier albeit a much better 'University' feel... You should be aiming for Ivey or Schulich, I cannot comment on Rotman or Queens though if you want to stay within the vicinity of Ontario.

Business Administration Program. Forgot to type Administration.

So you think I should just stay at Ryerson cus it's not anything special?

[Lovable]

Business Administration Program. Forgot to type Administration.

So you think I should just stay at Ryerson cus it's not anything special?

Ryerson and the ADMS program at York I find are somewhat similar in their offerings. I think Ryerson's program has a better 'community' feel to it compared to York but in general (for obvious reasons), York feels like a much more established University if you seek that type of experience.

Personally in your shoes, I would stay at Ryerson unless you wanted a different scenery or an easier commute (without the sacrifice of your credits that you would transfer).

[geokilla]

Someone told me that it costs money to apply for transfer credits if I transfer out of Ryerson and say I get accepted at Laurier? Is this true? I personally never heard of this before and haven't found much regarding this at the moment via Google.

I don't think I'll be applying for York as it's nothing special compared to Ryerson, unlike Schulich. It's not like they have co-op either...

[dankup]

Someone told me that it costs money to apply for transfer credits if I transfer out of Ryerson and say I get accepted at Laurier? Is this true? I personally never heard of this before and haven't found much regarding this at the moment via Google.

I don't think I'll be applying for York as it's nothing special compared to Ryerson, unlike Schulich. It's not like they have co-op either...

I have never heard that.. you just have to show them what you took at Ryerson and that's a lengthy process of them approving. The better the university, the more time you spend trying to prove the courses are equivalent and probably less transfer credits you will get. York's BAS has a 3rd year internship. Schulich is like Ryerson in regards to work experience, no co-op and no internship. What did you decide upon anyway now? You had like 2 weeks to contemplate.

[minty14]

Someone told me that it costs money to apply for transfer credits if I transfer out of Ryerson and say I get accepted at Laurier? Is this true? I personally never heard of this before and haven't found much regarding this at the moment via Google.

I don't think I'll be applying for York as it's nothing special compared to Ryerson, unlike Schulich. It's not like they have co-op either...

Hey Geokilla,

I was a transfer student from UTM management and i got accepted to York's Administrative studies program for accounting with a B+ average last year. I think it may differ depending on the stream your interested in. I think accounting and/or finance was one of the more competitive ones compared to the other streams like management, HR, marketing, etc. But dont quote me on that, thats just what i heard from people. In terms of the transfer credits, i got most of mine because they were all business related courses and accounts.
As said by the above poster, there is a internship opportunity for third year students which is great. I know some students that are in it right now who are taking part of this internship during their summer term and are loving it. Note that not everyone is eligible for this internship as you have to have a minimum gpa average which is a B or B+.

[minty14]

If you are not happy at Ryerson, what makes you think it can be any different at York (assuming it is not Schulich). They are almost same tier albeit a much better 'University' feel... You should be aiming for Ivey or Schulich, I cannot comment on Rotman or Queens though if you want to stay within the vicinity of Ontario.

From what I know, transferring to Schulich is almost next to impossible unless you have a A+ average. I think (90% sure).

[imflying12]

I have never heard that.. you just have to show them what you took at Ryerson and that's a lengthy process of them approving. The better the university, the more time you spend trying to prove the courses are equivalent and probably less transfer credits you will get. York's BAS has a 3rd year internship. Schulich is like Ryerson in regards to work experience, no co-op and no internship. What did you decide upon anyway now? You had like 2 weeks to contemplate.

Schulich is NOT like ryerson is anyway. At schulich you get better networking opportunities, employment opportunities, etc. More reputable firms go to Schulich to recruit students for the summer terms, part time positions, etc. At Ryerson you do not get anything close to that.

[geokilla]

I have never heard that.. you just have to show them what you took at Ryerson and that's a lengthy process of them approving. The better the university, the more time you spend trying to prove the courses are equivalent and probably less transfer credits you will get. York's BAS has a 3rd year internship. Schulich is like Ryerson in regards to work experience, no co-op and no internship. What did you decide upon anyway now? You had like 2 weeks to contemplate.

Spent most of those two weeks attempting to study first, transferring second.

Western has a "co-op" program that they call internship for upper year students. I was told that I need roughly a B- for Western, but because Accounting is so competitive there, they won't be surprised if they actually need a B+. Same goes for Laruier I guess. Wherever I go, it's a competitive program.

[Nanokakun]

Trying to transfer from University of Toronto Scarborough to Seneca College Markham campus or Newham preferrably Markham how do you do it?

[dankup]

Schulich is NOT like ryerson is anyway. At schulich you get better networking opportunities, employment opportunities, etc. More reputable firms go to Schulich to recruit students for the summer terms, part time positions, etc. At Ryerson you do not get anything close to that.

Read my post again. In terms of work experience. You go to class here and you go to class there. OBVIOUSLY Schulich is better in what YOU mentioned, it takes an idiot to say they're the same. In terms of internships or co-op Ryerson is on par (quantity wise) - there are none that are set up for students, you have to find your own.

[dankup]

Trying to transfer from University of Toronto Scarborough to Seneca College Markham campus or Newham preferrably Markham how do you do it?

You apply on the OCAS website.

[Lovable]

Read my post again. In terms of work experience. You go to class here and you go to class there. OBVIOUSLY Schulich is better in what YOU mentioned, it takes an idiot to say they're the same. In terms of internships or co-op Ryerson is on par (quantity wise) - there are none that are set up for students, you have to find your own.

da fuk am I reading?

[dankup]

da fuk am I reading?

Do you get co-op at Ryerson and/or Schulich, like you do at Laurier or Carleton?
Do you get an internship at Ryerson and/or Schulich like you do at York BAS or McMaster?

[imflying12]

Read my post again. In terms of work experience. You go to class here and you go to class there. OBVIOUSLY Schulich is better in what YOU mentioned, it takes an idiot to say they're the same. In terms of internships or co-op Ryerson is on par (quantity wise) - there are none that are set up for students, you have to find your own.

At the end of the day, the Schulich students are WAY better off interms of getting those job opportunities during their studies. For example, KPMG and several other firms are always recruiting for accounting students during their fall/winter terms. So in a way, Schulich students will not have any trouble finding jobs related to their field because of the available jobs to them whereas at Ryerson you get zippo - maybe volunteer positions (nothing close to what top tier business schools get). Actually the IBBA program has internships available to their students :) Now stop comparing the two because Ryerson is no way in hell (and never will be) that you can compare Ryerson with Schulich in anyway. Next time, try comparing Ryerson with something comparable like UOIT's commerce.

[Lovable]

Do you get co-op at Ryerson and/or Schulich, like you do at Laurier or Carleton?
Do you get an internship at Ryerson and/or Schulich like you do at York BAS or McMaster?

Okay in case you did not know, their BComm BTM program has a co-op program, their normal business management program does not. You need to be clear between the two.

Also, whether you have an internship or co-op it does not guarantee you a job, per se. You need to work for it and can still end up without a job for a work term if you are horrible. Contrary to that, just because you have a 'co-op' or 'internship' program does not mean the jobs you have 'available' to you are necessarily any good depending on your school's connection to the industry.

The number of jobs opened to a student at Schulich compared to your average Ryerson student is much higher therefore 'quantity-wise', no -- they do not have the same amount of jobs available to them in the respective market.

[dankup]

Okay in case you did not know, their BComm BTM program has a co-op program, their normal business management program does not. You need to be clear between the two.

Also, whether you have an internship or co-op it does not guarantee you a job, per se. You need to work for it and can still end up without a job for a work term if you are horrible. Contrary to that, just because you have a 'co-op' or 'internship' program does not mean the jobs you have 'available' to you are necessarily any good depending on your school's connection to the industry.

The number of jobs opened to a student at Schulich compared to your average Ryerson student is much higher therefore 'quantity-wise', no -- they do not have the same amount of jobs available to them in the respective market.

I didn't say the amount of jobs, I said the amount of working experience (while in school). No ****, Schulich students get a ton more offers than Ryerson kids. And yes, BM, my bad.

[CatDog]

At the end of the day, the Schulich students are WAY better off interms of getting those job opportunities during their studies. For example, KPMG and several other firms are always recruiting for accounting students during their fall/winter terms. So in a way, Schulich students will not have any trouble finding jobs related to their field because of the available jobs to them whereas at Ryerson you get zippo - maybe volunteer positions (nothing close to what top tier business schools get).

uot troll, the big 4 acc firms were at Ted during the fall and winter semester.

Sincerely,

A Ted student who hates Ted

[imflying12]

uot troll, the big 4 acc firms were at Ted during the fall and winter semester.

Sincerely,

A Ted student who hates Ted

You come in all the time when people talk about rye-high's business program. Yes, we understand you hate that lower tier business school now. Its crap. Yes. We all know that. Too bad you did not get into a better school when you were in highschool. There's always graduate studies to cover it! :)
From what I know, Ryerson has the lowest admission requirements for Business in TORONTO to this day. That just explains the quality of the student body enough said.

Ryerson = high 70s will get you in. Fine, i lied. Ryerson and Guelph humber is close together.

[geokilla]

You come in all the time when people talk about rye-high's business program. Yes, we understand you hate that lower tier business school now. Its crap. Yes. We all know that. Too bad you did not get into a better school when you were in highschool. There's always graduate studies to cover it! :)
From what I know, Ryerson has the lowest admission requirements for Business in TORONTO to this day. That just explains the quality of the student body enough said.

Ryerson = high 70s will get you in. Fine, i lied. Ryerson and Guelph humber is close together.

Actually my sister got accepted into Ryerson with only 3 out of 6 University marks sent in, and from her Grade 11 marks. Tells you how crap Ryerson still is. It was her first offer

Anyways I decided not to submit my OUAC 105 application for now.... Gonna continue my studies at Ryerson....slowly...

[dankup]

Actually my sister got accepted into Ryerson with only 3 out of 6 University marks sent in, and from her Grade 11 marks. Tells you how crap Ryerson still is. It was her first offer

Anyways I decided not to submit my OUAC 105 application for now.... Gonna continue my studies at Ryerson....slowly...

Ouch, sorry to hear. Submitted mine a few days ago.

[chibsta08]

I graduated from Sheridan, 3.8 or 3.9? GPA. I got 18 transfer credits to York.

York's BA program is 90 credits to graduate or 120 credits (w/ honors) to graduate. 18 credits is basically 3 classes.

[Mango2209]

At the end of the day, the Schulich students are WAY better off interms of getting those job opportunities during their studies. For example, KPMG and several other firms are always recruiting for accounting students during their fall/winter terms. So in a way, Schulich students will not have any trouble finding jobs related to their field because of the available jobs to them whereas at Ryerson you get zippo - maybe volunteer positions (nothing close to what top tier business schools get). Actually the IBBA program has internships available to their students :) Now stop comparing the two because Ryerson is no way in hell (and never will be) that you can compare Ryerson with Schulich in anyway. Next time, try comparing Ryerson with something comparable like UOIT's commerce.

Ryerson actually acquired many summer internships and fulltime this year from the big4. Most in it's history I heard. Next time you make "zippo" claims, get your facts right.

[imflying12]

Ryerson actually acquired many summer internships and fulltime this year from the big4. Most in it's history I heard. Next time you make "zippo" claims, get your facts right.

Doesnt matter that doesnt make its business program any better than the other Toronto schools (utsc, utm, utsg, schulich, regular york). Dont know anything about Guelph-humber but im sure they got some.

[Mango2209]

Doesnt matter that doesnt make its business program any better than the other Toronto schools (utsc, utm, utsg, schulich, regular york). Dont know anything about Guelph-humber but im sure they got some.

Sure, can't argue with most of those schools except "regular York". Also, I wouldn't say "never will be" comparable to those schools. Ryerson is still a relatively new university. While I don't see them being a lot better in the near future, saying never will be is just ignorant.

[mykismet]

Doesnt matter that doesnt make its business program any better than the other Toronto schools (utsc, utm, utsg, schulich, regular york). Dont know anything about Guelph-humber but im sure they got some.

Does RFD get you off? I haven't seen many people on any of the forums I frequent that like to stroke their e-penis as much as you do.

[imflying12]

Sure, can't argue with most of those schools except "regular York". Also, I wouldn't say "never will be" comparable to those schools. Ryerson is still a relatively new university. While I don't see them being a lot better in the near future, saying never will be is just ignorant.

Nah, I would say York's regular business program is up there based on people i know (friends and through other friend's connections). On the other hand, people i know that go to Rye-high for commerce absolutely hates it. THey think the reputation is crap and the education they are receiving is garbage. I'm pretty sure York's regular business program is better than Ryerson's. Yep, im going to say it again. Just look at Rye's admission requirements and Ryerson is the lowest out of all in toronto. It just shows how great the student body is :)

[Mango2209]

Nah, I would say York's regular business program is up there based on people i know (friends and through other friend's connections). On the other hand, people i know that go to Rye-high for commerce absolutely hates it. THey think the reputation is crap and the education they are receiving is garbage. I'm pretty sure York's regular business program is better than Ryerson's. Yep, im going to say it again. Just look at Rye's admission requirements and Ryerson is the lowest out of all in toronto. It just shows how great the student body is :)

Well i'm not sure how current your friends opinions are but right now Ryerson seems to be on the rise. I know many people who like Ryerson. Not sure why your friends think the education is crap when Ryerson used the same textbook as other schools (for accounting anyway). Also, Ryerson students have won many case competitions such as Deca and some big 4 hosted competitions. Participating schools include all you have listed. also, Ryerson is opening their own school of accounting and finance and will be raising their requirements including the need for gr12 algebra

[imflying12]

Well i'm not sure how current your friends opinions are but right now Ryerson seems to be on the rise. I know i'm many people who like Ryerson. Not sure why your friends think the education is crap when Ryerson used the same textbook as other schools (for accounting anyway). Also, Ryerson students have won many case competitions such as Deca and some big 4 hosted competitions. Participating schools include students from all schools you have listed. also, Ryerson is opening their own school of accounting and finance and will be raising their requirements including the need for gr12 algebra

From what I hear, the professors at Ryerson especially accounting dont give a rats damn about their students. The professors are also uneducated when compared to other schools in Toronto. Why do you make it sound like only Ryerson is winning cases? Its nothing special, you hear this stuff for everyone's own respective school. We could say the same for other schools too in fact probably win more cases in other topics on top of accounting. My point was the QUALITY OF THE STUDENT BODY and the reputation it holds. Believe me I know some employers personally that do recruiting that talk smack about Ryerson commerce graduate students. - im not going to get into that too deep.
Opening their own school doesnt necessarily mean is a good thing. Talk about it when they actually open it and watch the admission req will be in the low 70s lols.

[GoldenWolf]

From what I hear, the professors at Ryerson especially accounting dont give a rats damn about their students. The professors are also uneducated when compared to other schools in Toronto. Why do you make it sound like only Ryerson is winning cases? Its nothing special, you hear this stuff for everyone's own respective school. We could say the same for other schools too in fact probably win more cases in other topics on top of accounting. My point was the QUALITY OF THE STUDENT BODY and the reputation it holds. Believe me I know some employers personally that do recruiting that talk smack about Ryerson commerce graduate students. - im not going to get into that too deep.
Opening their own school doesnt necessarily mean is a good thing. Talk about it when they actually open it and watch the admission req will be in the low 70s lols.

Well, I am not in Accounting so I can't really say this with absolute certainty but I have taken accounting/business professional courses. The professor I had for business course was a part time teacher who was teaching at Uft/Ryerson and was a graduate from Harvard. This semester I had a accounting teacher and her teaching style was amazing and I think she is perhaps the only teacher I have met in 3 years of University who cares about her students. Most of the professors I have had (90%) teach both at Ryerson/UfT or York/Ryerson so.... and OH I have talked to recruiters who think UfT rips their students off with the idea of "reputation".

[Mango2209]

From what I hear, the professors at Ryerson especially accounting dont give a rats damn about their students. The professors are also uneducated when compared to other schools in Toronto. Why do you make it sound like only Ryerson is winning cases? Its nothing special, you hear this stuff for everyone's own respective school. We could say the same for other schools too in fact probably win more cases in other topics on top of accounting. My point was the QUALITY OF THE STUDENT BODY and the reputation it holds. Believe me I know some employers personally that do recruiting that talk smack about Ryerson commerce graduate students. - im not going to get into that too deep.
Opening their own school doesnt necessarily mean is a good thing. Talk about it when they actually open it and watch the admission req will be in the low 70s lols.

I'm not going to argue anymore, just hope you can agree that your views may not be 100% correct.

[mykismet]

I'm not going to argue anymore, just hope you can agree that your views may not be 100% correct.

the kid bases his arguments solely on his own opinion. i agree with some of what imflying12 usually says however it's all so self engrossed it's hard not to poke fun at him.

at provincial deca case competition york did VERY well, in things like retail management, etc. queen's was shut out "no medals", ryerson has done well at EVERY competition it's gone to this year (i take part in some of them so i have first hand experience lol). even at international's this past week they did well (that's competing with american schools as well... using american GAAP etc.)

the profs teach at multiple schools...even the ones we consider to be **** teach simultaneously at laurier, uoft, etc.

lastly it's awesome when you beat out students from uoft and york for internships.. and when u work with them your co-workers, management realize that they hired a complete lemon from york or wherever... (same applies to rye)... im not generalizing like imflying12 loves to do... however there are always students from every program that are useless.

[imflying12]

and OH I have talked to recruiters who think UfT rips their students off with the idea of "reputation".

The student quality of ryerson's compared to other schools in Toronto is the lowest. That's the facts and ive been using that as my supporting argument the whole time.

What the heck? You gotta be kidding me. How is that ripping their students off? Its what uoft is known for so obv they would take advantage of that. How stupid would one get? Because of Uoft's reputation, they draw the most intelligent and bright minded students to their school. All the left overs end up in Ryerson. Look at the admission requirements for business.

[GoldenWolf]

Because of Uoft's reputation, they draw the most intelligent and bright minded students to their school. All the left overs end up in Ryerson. Look at the admission requirements for business.

Yes, because getting good grades in high school is an amazing indicator of intelligence and bright minded students. Also the average admission for Business was low 80s and not low 70s. http://www.ryerson.ca/about/data/b-admission/programs/business.html

[geokilla]

Get out of my thread. This is about transfers. Not arguing about other stuff

[imflying12]

Yes, because getting good grades in high school is an amazing indicator of intelligence and bright minded students. Also the average admission for Business was low 80s and not low 70s. http://www.ryerson.ca/about/data/b-admission/programs/business.html

No. 80% was the average for that year. But the majority was coming from high 70s to 80 on the dot. Its still the lowest out of the other Toronto schools :p OK IM DONE GEOKILLA!!

[princess2132]

Hey, I'm going into second year in Ryerson's Sociology program with a cGPA of 2.26. Do you guys think that it is at all possible that I will be accepted into Mcmaster's sociology program with that average?

[dankup]

Hey, I'm going into second year in Ryerson's Sociology program with a cGPA of 2.26. Do you guys think that it is at all possible that I will be accepted into Mcmaster's sociology program with that average?

Probably not..

[windforcexx28]

Hey, I'm going into second year in Ryerson's Sociology program with a cGPA of 2.26. Do you guys think that it is at all possible that I will be accepted into Mcmaster's sociology program with that average?

You will probably need a B- average at least to make the transfer :|

[princess2132]

You will probably need a B- average at least to make the transfer :|

Aw man :( But I am pretty confident that I will boost up my gpa to at least a 2.67 by the end of the fall semester. I am also taking a spring course, that I am sure I will get at least a B+ or an A, in order to also increase my GPA. Would it make sense to not apply during October, and rather in January when the marks for the Fall 2012 courses are released, and added into the cGPA?

[dankup]

Aw man :( But I am pretty confident that I will boost up my gpa to at least a 2.67 by the end of the fall semester. I am also taking a spring course, that I am sure I will get at least a B+ or an A, in order to also increase my GPA. Would it make sense to not apply during October, and rather in January when the marks for the Fall 2012 courses are released, and added into the cGPA?

Depends what year you're going to be in when you start Fall 2012. Even if you wanted to apply, it's too late now as applications for transfer students were due May 1st.

[princess2132]

Depends what year you're going to be in when you start Fall 2012. Even if you wanted to apply, it's too late now as applications for transfer students were due May 1st.

I'm going to be in second year, and I'm aware that I missed the deadline, as I wasn't planning on transferring this year anyways. For 2013-2014, you can start applying on OUAC during late October. lol

[dankup]

I'm going to be in second year, and I'm aware that I missed the deadline, as I wasn't planning on transferring this year anyways. For 2013-2014, you can start applying on OUAC during late October. lol

If you're sure about it - good, cause I don't know the dates. Let me get this straight: you've just finished 1st year - you will be in 2nd year in September 2012 and you want to transfer after 2nd year INTO 3rd year and do your 3rd and 4th year at another university? Or INTO 2nd year and do your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year at another university?

I guess it would be transferring into 3rd year because as you say the deadline has passed for Fall admissions. When do you want to start at the other university? Winter semester?

[princess2132]

If you're sure about it - good, cause I don't know the dates. Let me get this straight: you've just finished 1st year - you will be in 2nd year in September 2012 and you want to transfer after 2nd year INTO 3rd year and do your 3rd and 4th year at another university? Or INTO 2nd year and do your 2nd, 3rd, and 4th year at another university?

I guess it would be transferring into 3rd year because as you say the deadline has passed for Fall admissions. When do you want to start at the other university? Winter semester?

I want to transfer after second year INTO third year and do my third and fourth year at Mac. I'm looking to start in the Fall semester of 2013

[CatDog]

You come in all the time when people talk about rye-high's business program. Yes, we understand you hate that lower tier business school now. Its crap. Yes. We all know that. Too bad you did not get into a better school when you were in highschool. There's always graduate studies to cover it!

I got into uot - not a chance I'd pay what you do in tuition to go there. I most likely won't get an MBA, it'll be unnecessary.

[dankup]

I want to transfer after second year INTO third year and do my third and fourth year at Mac. I'm looking to start in the Fall semester of 2013

Oh, ok. So just work your butt off, get your GPA higher, and apply before May 1st of 2013 :) Best of luck!

[princess2132]

Oh, ok. So just work your butt off, get your GPA higher, and apply before May 1st of 2013 :) Best of luck!

hahaha thankk you!!!!!!!!!!!!

[geokilla]

Time to necro this thread...

Has anyone transferred as a 3rd year student? I'm going into Ryerson as a 3rd year student, though still unsure of my plans... Declared finance major but I still want to continue to do accounting, despite having to repeat 2 courses and having intermediate financial accounting leaving a sour taste in me. I should add I'm unsure if accounting is the correct path for me...

I spoke with an academic counselor the other day, and she says I should be able to apply into other universities as a third year student because their residency requirement is generally that I can have 10 transfer credits and finish minimum of 50% of courses at the new University. If I transfer, I have to repeat some courses as well and feel like I'm limited to the business field because honestly, nothing really interests me. I enjoy crunching numbers, but nothing crazy like calculus and functions. I did not enjoy intermediate financial accounting that much either.... And accounting + finance is an already pretty saturated field...

[dankup]

Time to necro this thread...

Has anyone transferred as a 3rd year student? I'm going into Ryerson as a 3rd year student, though still unsure of my plans... Declared finance major but I still want to continue to do accounting, despite having to repeat 2 courses and having intermediate financial accounting leaving a sour taste in me. I should add I'm unsure if accounting is the correct path for me...

I spoke with an academic counselor the other day, and she says I should be able to apply into other universities as a third year student because their residency requirement is generally that I can have 10 transfer credits and finish minimum of 50% of courses at the new University. If I transfer, I have to repeat some courses as well and feel like I'm limited to the business field because honestly, nothing really interests me. I enjoy crunching numbers, but nothing crazy like calculus and functions. I did not enjoy intermediate financial accounting that much either.... And accounting + finance is an already pretty saturated field...

Aw yeah geokilla, you're back up in this thread!

Can I ask what your GPA is after 2 years?

I went to the first page of the thread and read over that you don't mind studying business law. Has that changed?

If you're entering 3rd year you're not going to get all the transfer credits. You're right when you say 50% of your credits (max) will be transferred to the university you apply to. You've already done half the program (i.e 50%), why go in for a whole extra year (or semester) when those 10 courses you take won't be transferred over? The time to transfer is 1st year into 2nd year, 2nd year into 3rd year. Technically speaking, even if you're in 3rd/4th year and apply somewhere else the university might accept you, but because they want your money; they know you're going to get at least 50% of the courses done at their university. If you're OK with losing a little money (which it seems you are), then apply somewhere else after 3rd year, or after the fall semester (some universities have winter admissions)<-- this is what I'm doing. If you take off a semester you might find something you enjoy and clear your mind off of things.

If you say you want to study accounting.. study accounting (why would you want to transfer then?) Or do you mean keep studying accounting just not at Ryerson and in another school? You're right when you say it's a saturated field.. and the students that do get employed are of top tier schools and/or have co-op/internship experiences.

You say you want to study accounting but in the next sentence you say you're unsure if accounting is the correct path for you. If you enjoy it, stick with it; if not - don't dwell any longer and waste money paying for tuition.

Is it a possibility you might fail/hurt your GPA knowing in the back of your mind you want to transfer out? Thus not trying as hard/putting less effort.

[geokilla]

GPA is 2.5... Which pretty much kills that transferring idea until I can bump it up to at least a 3.0. Means I gotta retake at least 2 to 3 courses at Ryerson. My GPA kept on decreasing and decreasing and decreasing since first semester...

I think business law was just one of those interesting courses kinda thing. Thought bout it on and off over the summer, along with my career and studies path, and I still haven't figured it out, as I mentioned in the previous post.

The thing is on the OUAC 105D, there's no option to transfer in as a 3rd year student. At least not when I checked it out after exams in May/June. The universities I chose, such as York, Laurier, Western, etc. had only an option of transferring in as a 1st or 2nd year student. Which doesn't seem to make sense because on their websites and according to the academic counselor and what people told me, I should be able to transfer in as a 3rd year student. And I want to transfer to a university that has co-op or internship, which gives me an excellent idea of what the Accounting or Business field in general is actually like.

Well studying Accounting and actually doing an Accounting job is two different things. Hence why I am unsure if it's the correct path for me. It's like studying to be a dentist and actually working your next 40 years as a dentist. Plus if I don't do Accounting or Finance or something similar, then I can't study anything else because I pretty much limited myself to the business field thanks to the terrible grade 12 courses that I chose. Plus as I said in the previous post, I enjoy crunching numbers, except for things like calculus and functions. That I didn't have too much fun with.

[dankup]

GPA is 2.5... Which pretty much kills that transferring idea until I can bump it up to at least a 3.0. Means I gotta retake at least 2 to 3 courses at Ryerson. My GPA kept on decreasing and decreasing and decreasing since first semester...

I think business law was just one of those interesting courses kinda thing. Thought bout it on and off over the summer, along with my career and studies path, and I still haven't figured it out, as I mentioned in the previous post.

The thing is on the OUAC 105D, there's no option to transfer in as a 3rd year student. At least not when I checked it out after exams in May/June. The universities I chose, such as York, Laurier, Western, etc. had only an option of transferring in as a 1st or 2nd year student. Which doesn't seem to make sense because on their websites and according to the academic counselor and what people told me, I should be able to transfer in as a 3rd year student. And I want to transfer to a university that has co-op or internship, which gives me an excellent idea of what the Accounting or Business field in general is actually like.

Well studying Accounting and actually doing an Accounting job is two different things. Hence why I am unsure if it's the correct path for me. It's like studying to be a dentist and actually working your next 40 years as a dentist. Plus if I don't do Accounting or Finance or something similar, then I can't study anything else because I pretty much limited myself to the business field thanks to the terrible grade 12 courses that I chose. Plus as I said in the previous post, I enjoy crunching numbers, except for things like calculus and functions. That I didn't have too much fun with.

Wow. If I didn't know better I would think someone made another account to mock me. Our situation is too alike. I'm a little busy right now but will leave another post in a bit.

[forthewinwin]

My experience may differ, but here was mine (a copy and paste from something I wrote a while back).

To summarize, difference in grading systems may cause you to work for less than you think you deserve. For example, you may think you achieve 95% in a course, but it may be seen as a 90%.

If there is a supplemental application involved, be very careful because they can be subjective. Just because you had more extracurricular involvement AND higher GPA doesn't mean you will be superior to a candidate to another with lower. It is very subjective. I was denied admission to UBC's Sauder School of Business for no apparent reason. I arranged a meeting with the admissions people and they never gave me a straight answer, aside from saying I was "not competitive enough", yet my roommate and few other friends who had a LOWER GPA than I as well as less in quantity and significance of extracurricular activities all got admitted. I knew also one girl who had only a 3.2 GPA and only extracurricular McDonalds part-time job and 2 volunteer work types for a few months who was admitted. Needless to say, I did a lot more- not only in quantity, but in variety of activities, with some leadership positions. What I am trying to draw from this is I wish I just didn't listen to my parents back then and took my U of T Commerce acceptance while I still could (they told me to go to Douglas College over U of T, lol... kind of ironic for asian parents. They wanted me to go to UBC in the end, and UBC only, and believed in the stories of "super smart Chinese students from mainland China with skills beyond your imagination that would slaughter you and get you kicked out in 1st year")



Because I was a previous student at Douglas College, I was affected by their grading system. Any scores between 90-94% were automatically considered only “A”; GPA 4.00 grades, while at many other institutions, including those others I’ve attended, provide an “A+”; GPA 4.33 at any percentage 90% and above. Similarly, my 85-89% scores only were recognized as “A-”; GPA 3.67 at Douglas, while at other institutions I would have received an “A” grade.

UBC, when considering my eligibility for the President’s Entrance Scholarship, only took the letter grades Douglas provided, instead of considering the true percentage scores behind them. It took the letter grades and then applied it to its own GPA grading scale.

To illustrate and examine the impact this had, consider my grades in my first semester. I’m aware that I shouldn’t be writing too much about myself on the internet, but I feel this issue needs to be addressed in public (and besides, what is someone going to do with my marks):

ECON 101: 90-94%; Douglas College “A”

ECON 102: 90-94%; Douglas College “A”

MATH 104: 90-94%; Douglas College “A”

ENGL 112: 70-74%; Douglas College “B-”

PHIL 120: 85-89%; Douglas College “A-”

PSYC 101: 85-89%; Douglas College “A-”

ECON 2nd: 90-94%; Douglas College “A”

CHIN 101 (unsure of exact course number): 95-100%; Douglas College “A+”

COMM 296: 85-89%; Thompson Rivers University “A”

COMM 392: 85-89%; Thompson Rivers University “A”

Because of grading scale differences, according to what UBC admissions initially told me, the percentage results of each course would be applied to the UBC grading scale and then a GPA will be derived from there (i.e. UBC takes the percentages and applies it to their system). If this is done properly, and to provide each student a fair chance based on the available information to the admissions department, the lowest percentage grade is taken from each “range” and then applied to the UBC scale to arrive at a GPA. For instance, 85-89% would be considered “85%” since transcripts only list the letter grade, which represents that range, not an exact number. Using this approach, my GPA would be:

[ (4.33)(5 courses with 90%+) + (3.95)(4 courses with 85-89%) + 70% ] / 10 = GPA 4.025; 4.03.

Note that I treated the 95-100% grade as 90%, because UBC provides a 4.33 GPA for any score 90% and above. Now what UBC actually did was the following, based on the response received from it:

“If there is no percentage listed on your transcripts, then we only take the letter grades when calculating your GPA. There is no distinguishing of grading scales within BC post-secondary institutions.”

My letter grades were then treated in the following way, according to the UBC letter grading system:

[ (85%)(4+2 Douglas College and Thompson Rivers "A" grades) + (90%)(1 Douglas College "A+" grade) + (80%)(2 Douglas College "A-" grades) + (68%)(1 Douglas College "B-" grade) ] / 10

Which essentially is, after applying each UBC percentage to the UBC GPA system:

[ (3.95)(6) + 4.33 + (3.70)(2) + 2.65 ] / 10 = 3.81, which seems awfully close to the figure my recruiter provided me: 3.82.

This has resulted me in LOSING the President’s Entrance Scholarship, which requires an “A” average; a 3.95 GPA. I was denied $2500 because of attending Douglas College- because of its letter grading system. If I were to attend Kwantlen or enroll all my courses with Thompson Rivers University, obtaining identical academic achievements (i.e. getting the EXACT same marks), all my 90%+ grades would be considered 4.33 GPA, NOT 3.95. If I was a TRU or Kwantlen student, I would only need 85% to be equal with a 90% Douglas student! If I was a Douglas Student, my 90% is automatically considered a 85%! All my 90-94% are now 85%. My 70-74% becomes a 68%. My 85-89% grades are now automatically 80%- all because I was a “Douglas student”.

I was deemed an inferior candidate because I went to Douglas College. A student at Kwantlen or TRU with identical grades is automatically considered “more qualified” than I, the Douglas College student, and with my academic standing, would have received $2500 while I have not. A Kwantlen/TRU student with 90% will be provided a 4.33 GPA while the Douglas College one will be only given 4.00 BECAUSE he/she was a Douglas College student.

I thought admissions was based heavily on academic achievement, or entirely in my case with this acceptance. So just because someone went to Kwantlen/TRU and obtained the exact same grade, does this person now automatically have a “higher academic achievement”?

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Also, there is sticky sh*t involved sometimes in the transfer process. Sometimes there are special courses you are forced to take in order to take the necessary courses to transfer, resulting you in wasting unnecessary time and money to take nontransferable courses.

For example, in BC many Colleges make you take a "Introductory Statistics" course in order to take "Business Statistics"- a typical university Bachelor of Commerce course. The former does not transfer to university.

[geokilla]

Spoke with York undergrad admissions... I need a 70% to transfer into their BAS program for Accounting. I also need 70% in the core Accounting courses in order to be eligible for their CMA Internship which happens in between Year 3 and 4. What's worse is that they take calculate your CGPA by adding up all your marks, including failed and repeats, then average it out. Looks like transferring this year is gone and I'll have to wait till 2013 if I want to transfer...

Might as well stay at Ryerson from a financial point of view.

[dankup]

Spoke with York undergrad admissions... I need a 70% to transfer into their BAS program for Accounting. I also need 70% in the core Accounting courses in order to be eligible for their CMA Internship which happens in between Year 3 and 4. What's worse is that they take calculate your CGPA by adding up all your marks, including failed and repeats, then average it out. Looks like transferring this year is gone and I'll have to wait till 2013 if I want to transfer...

Might as well stay at Ryerson from a financial point of view.

Or not go at all and save some money? As in, if you want to transfer for 2013. Some universities also accept for Winter entry - check them out. Why would you want to go to York's BAS? It's pretty much the same thing as Ryerson's BComm. You'll lose a year of credits if you transfer as a 3rd year student, any university needs 50% of the program to be done in THEIR institution.

[geokilla]

Or not go at all and save some money? As in, if you want to transfer for 2013. Some universities also accept for Winter entry - check them out. Why would you want to go to York's BAS? It's pretty much the same thing as Ryerson's BComm. You'll lose a year of credits if you transfer as a 3rd year student, any university needs 50% of the program to be done in THEIR institution.

Ya. 70% minimum. I'm at like 65% to 68%ish according to the GPA calculator at Ryerson. Hence I'd need to repeat if I was to transfer to York.

York has the CMA internship that I mentioned. And as you've known, I'm just not feeling it at Ryerson..

[dankup]

Ya. 70% minimum. I'm at like 65% to 68%ish according to the GPA calculator at Ryerson. Hence I'd need to repeat if I was to transfer to York.

York has the CMA internship that I mentioned. And as you've known, I'm just not feeling it at Ryerson..

Do you just want to switch because you don't like Ryerson anymore? Still wanna do accounting, still wanna do business?

[geokilla]

Do you just want to switch because you don't like Ryerson anymore? Still wanna do accounting, still wanna do business?

Never did like Ryerson... And I'm only continuing to do it because it's the only thing I can do. Plus as I said before, working in the field is different than studying in the field. If I don't like it, I can always work in something else. At the very least I have an undergraduate degree.

I should revisit the first couple pages of this thread...

[dankup]

Never did like Ryerson... And I'm only continuing to do it because it's the only thing I can do. Plus as I said before, working in the field is different than studying in the field. If I don't like it, I can always work in something else. At the very least I have an undergraduate degree.

I should revisit the first couple pages of this thread...

Well if you don't like it and you've lost the passion for it, why would you continue to enroll in the courses? Don't put yourself down and say it's the only thing you can do.. Oh by the way, you told me a few times to go into a program with an internship/co-op. What about you, are you trying to get into one?