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Coolshizzle
Apr 20th, 2012, 03:07 PM
Some people say graduate schools look at your last 2 years does that mean 300-400 Courses?
Or any courses that you took in your last 2 years in undergrad, like taking a first year course in your fourth year would count?

Also my major requires you to have 2 credits in either a 300 or 400 level.
I plan on avoiding any 400 courses to boost my GPA just incase it's really hard, does that look bad?

nauru
Apr 20th, 2012, 03:30 PM
You should look at the specific programs entry requirements and admission processes. Most North American graduate schools look at every course you have ever taken at the post-secondary level. So if you mess up a course in first year that low grade stays with you for the rest of your life, no matter what you try to accomplish in further education and how long ago that low grade(s) was.

There are some exceptions to this, as some Canadian masters programs focus on the last two years. But this is not the norm in North America.

eudaii
Apr 20th, 2012, 04:06 PM
In Canada, many grad school programs look at your final 2 years (last 10 full course credits). It does not matter if they are 300 or 400 level. The grad schools I applied to consider every course taken within the last two years (100 level and 200 level included). But you really need to look into specific programs that you're interested in, since GPA requirements vary by program.

7jai
Apr 20th, 2012, 05:30 PM
In Canada, many grad school programs look at your final 2 years (last 10 full course credits). It does not matter if they are 300 or 400 level. The grad schools I applied to consider every course taken within the last two years (100 level and 200 level included). But you really need to look into specific programs that you're interested in, since GPA requirements vary by program.

How about if you graduated 5 years ago from your undergrad degree - and have recently taken continuing education (university level) courses at Ryerson University - Chang School of CE (ie: a certificate in French/Business that includes 6 undergrad courses)? Would that be considered part of the last 2 years of study?

eudaii
Apr 20th, 2012, 10:55 PM
hey i think that's program specific...some programs may allow it. I know the rehabilitation sciences schools take post-graduation courses into the GPA equation, but some other programs may not. What programs are you looking into?

7jai
Apr 21st, 2012, 06:02 PM
hey i think that's program specific...some programs may allow it. I know the rehabilitation sciences schools take post-graduation courses into the GPA equation, but some other programs may not. What programs are you looking into?

I'm thinking of more MBA kinda masters programs? Like schulich, rotman, mcgill, etc...

Appreciate your thoughts!

Mulder and Scully
Apr 22nd, 2012, 07:35 AM
How about if you graduated 5 years ago from your undergrad degree - and have recently taken continuing education (university level) courses at Ryerson University - Chang School of CE (ie: a certificate in French/Business that includes 6 undergrad courses)? Would that be considered part of the last 2 years of study?

Part time continuing/adult education no. If it's a full time post-diploma/post-degree certificate program then yes.

For one thing, when you apply to any masters program you need to send your undergrad transcripts, usually through OUAC. OUAC only has access to degree and diploma granting schools, i.e., University of Toronto, Seneca College, etc. The Chang School, and the same with the University of Toronto School of Continuing Studies and Seneca College continuing education, don't do this because they're different schools within a larger school. When you go through the actual online application process there's no option to select any continuing education schools and none of them will show up during a search.

soupman
Apr 22nd, 2012, 09:58 PM
I'm thinking of more MBA kinda masters programs? Like schulich, rotman, mcgill, etc...

Appreciate your thoughts!

when someone says it is program specific, it means you need to contact that program or find out yourself. these are skills, sadly, a pathetic number of grad students don't have.

7jai
Apr 23rd, 2012, 10:07 AM
Part time continuing/adult education no. If it's a full time post-diploma/post-degree certificate program then yes.

For one thing, when you apply to any masters program you need to send your undergrad transcripts, usually through OUAC. OUAC only has access to degree and diploma granting schools, i.e., University of Toronto, Seneca College, etc. The Chang School, and the same with the University of Toronto School of Continuing Studies and Seneca College continuing education, don't do this because they're different schools within a larger school. When you go through the actual online application process there's no option to select any continuing education schools and none of them will show up during a search.


when someone says it is program specific, it means you need to contact that program or find out yourself. these are skills, sadly, a pathetic number of grad students don't have.


Hey guys,

Thanks for taking the time in replying to my question! I just had a follow up after talking to the Schulich's MBA admissions contact. She basically told me that they would consider the courses in the GPA calculation, however, they need to be "degree credit" courses, and not "certificate/diploma credit" courses (similar to what mulder&scully mentioned above!).

So after verfiying online on ryerson's website; the business french courses i'm taking are considered "degree credits", so I think they should count towards the GPA calculation :)

And btw, i thought MBA school is post-grad? So why would you need to apply through OUAC? I thought you would apply straight to the MBA school?

Mulder and Scully
Apr 23rd, 2012, 12:04 PM
So after verfiying online on ryerson's website; the business french courses i'm taking are considered "degree credits", so I think they should count towards the GPA calculation :)

And btw, i thought MBA school is post-grad? So why would you need to apply through OUAC? I thought you would apply straight to the MBA school?

Ryerson's grad programs do consider courses taken at The Chang School because the continuing education school also teaches undergrad courses. Also, they're tightly knit unlike most other universities and colleges with their own continuing education schools. Ryerson is the only one I know of that will do this. Rotman wouldn't even bother looking at the courses I took at University of Toronto School of Continuing Studies (and neither did any other of the grad schools I applied for). And like I said earlier, when you actually apply on the OUAC site, there's no option to add any continuing education schools.

OUAC manages all the Ontario universities and colleges applications and transcripts for all their programs. Applying to any university or college has always been a two-step process. First you apply through OUAC who forwards your application to the school. Then, if any additional documents are required, you send those to the school with your OUAC application number. If you click on any "Apply Now" button on any grad school program webpage, you'll see that it'll take you to OUAC's site.

The term "post-grad" or "post-diploma" is an odd inbetweener. In Ontario these refer to full time 1- or 2-year programs that require a Bachelors degree but aren't Masters degrees. They're concentrated programs offered at colleges (and great programs really). Masters or graduate programs are just referred to as Masters or Graduate programs in Ontario.