View Full Version : How is Bcomm degree?
GanJa786
May 1st, 2012, 04:09 AM
Hello,
I am graduating from high school this summer and not sure which path to take. I knw Engineering,medicine, law are all better fields than business. But if i pursue Bcomm degree what is the job industry like? I am really confused.
Thanks
spookie149
May 1st, 2012, 07:08 AM
You need to do some serious research on your own. Do you even know what a bachelor of commerce is?
Applecart
May 1st, 2012, 08:31 AM
Much better than a degree in political science or chemistry. Even better than an engineering degree if you can get into a co-op program. Good luck!
mastercool
May 1st, 2012, 08:38 AM
Bcomm = suits, snore, take people's money, competitive, make lots of monies
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BananaHunter
May 1st, 2012, 08:45 AM
Hello,
I am graduating from high school this summer and not sure which path to take. I knw Engineering,medicine, law are all better fields than business. But if i pursue Bcomm degree what is the job industry like? I am really confused.
Thanks
You need to do some research. If you take business, there are several main streams: accounting, marketing, management, finance. Most people take accounting as it's technical and job market is the widest. Marketing is hard to get your foot into. And management isn't "real". Most people are promoted into management. You simply can't learn to manage people and businesses through a textbook. Finance is probably the 2nd most popular choice. It's more about stocks and pricing models.
I'm not going to tell you to go do what you love. You should do what you're good at (which could be something you love). Because most people love to do nothing and have an easy life. If everyone were to choose what they love, they'd all be porn stars or food critics. One thing is for sure: people tend to love what they are good at. Pursue that and you'll maximize your chance of landing a job you don't hate. You'll also minimize the risk that you don't earn enough to live on your own. At the end of the day, most jobs involve sitting at a desk staring at a computer. The company environment and the people you work with affects job satisfaction MUCH more than the job duties themselves.
PrettyMao
May 1st, 2012, 09:18 AM
You need to do some serious research on your own. Do you even know what a bachelor of commerce is?
I think the OP is here to do research. Thanks for your thoughtful insight.
Intotheblue12
May 1st, 2012, 10:25 AM
"One of you will do exceedingly well in business just unlimited potential. One of you will make a living and nothing more. And one of you will make a great mother." - Dwight Schrute
Kasakato
May 1st, 2012, 10:28 AM
You need to do some research. If you take business, there are several main streams: accounting, marketing, management, finance. Most people take accounting as it's technical and job market is the widest. Marketing is hard to get your foot into. And management isn't "real". Most people are promoted into management. You simply can't learn to manage people and businesses through a textbook. Finance is probably the 2nd most popular choice. It's more about stocks and pricing models.
I'm not going to tell you to go do what you love. You should do what you're good at (which could be something you love). Because most people love to do nothing and have an easy life. If everyone were to choose what they love, they'd all be porn stars or food critics. One thing is for sure: people tend to love what they are good at. Pursue that and you'll maximize your chance of landing a job you don't hate. You'll also minimize the risk that you don't earn enough to live on your own. At the end of the day, most jobs involve sitting at a desk staring at a computer. The company environment and the people you work with affects job satisfaction MUCH more than the job duties themselves.
Thats a pretty big over-generalization...
bbraganz
May 1st, 2012, 11:08 AM
Hello,
I am graduating from high school this summer and not sure which path to take. I knw Engineering,medicine, law are all better fields than business. But if i pursue Bcomm degree what is the job industry like? I am really confused.
Thanks
Remember that Medicine and Law are graduate programs and not undergraduate ones. Medicine requires (for the most part) that you do a science-related undergraduate degree. You can get into law school with any undergraduate program.
How do you know that Engineering, Law and Medicine are all better fields than business? There are far more employment opportunities for someone with a business undergraduate degree than for someone with a political science undergraduate degree who didn't get into law school, or a science major that didnt make it into med school.
The reason i chose business was because originally, i had wanted to go to law school, but was afraid that if i did criminology and didnt get into law school, i was pretty much hung out to dry. But a Bcomm degree with the right specialization will open a lot more employment doors than a science or social science degree.
However again, you should base your decision on what you are good at, as you will tend to enjoy University a lot more if you are receiving high grades in what interests you. & that will ultimately transcend into you getting into whatever graduate program you choose to follow.
Clueless Fox
May 1st, 2012, 12:47 PM
unless you have a ton of discipline, i'd advice against only going into a program 'coz of future job prospects. we're in this 'knowledge era' where everything including jobs are increasingly transient and you require an expertise combined with constant upgrades to yourself regardless of wherever you are working. if you're an "engineer" by heart/interest and decide to pursue accounting because it sounds simple and provides a lucrative career, you'll be due for a burnout sooner or later along with other set of challenges.
with that said, i also wouldn't advocate going into some field like philosophy or something else totally random unless you can afford the education for some years to come. i guess the idea is to find a field that you can enjoy and that leaves as much room to move around in the future as possible.
hvc
May 1st, 2012, 12:48 PM
Weren't applications due by January or something? Did you apply yet? If you haven't applied, you have pretty well 8 months to make a decision. You've listed to undergrad paths, and two graduate paths which would require an undergrad education. With a Bcomm/BEng (or any degree for that matter) you can do Law. To do medicine, I believe you'd need a BSc or something similar (not 100% sure).
Depending on what you want to do with your BComm, I would probably go the engineering route, and then you can make your decision from there (you could always do an MBA after your B.Eng). I think you really need to think about what you want to do, and pick a degree that will help you get there, don't just pick a degree for the sake of attending school.
crazi
May 2nd, 2012, 11:33 PM
unless you have a ton of discipline, i'd advice against only going into a program 'coz of future job prospects. we're in this 'knowledge era' where everything including jobs are increasingly transient and you require an expertise combined with constant upgrades to yourself regardless of wherever you are working. if you're an "engineer" by heart/interest and decide to pursue accounting because it sounds simple and provides a lucrative career, you'll be due for a burnout sooner or later along with other set of challenges.
with that said, i also wouldn't advocate going into some field like philosophy or something else totally random unless you can afford the education for some years to come. i guess the idea is to find a field that you can enjoy and that leaves as much room to move around in the future as possible.
I disagree, my backup career path was accounting, and I don't even like accounting. Every engineer, comp sci, even some bio students choose BCOM as a backup, why? because it's very doable. And I can guarantee you half of all accountants ugrads are only doing it for the money, not passion.
Applecart
May 3rd, 2012, 10:54 AM
I disagree, my backup career path was accounting, and I don't even like accounting. Every engineer, comp sci, even some bio students choose BCOM as a backup, why? because it's very doable. And I can guarantee you half of all accountants ugrads are only doing it for the money, not passion.
And these people won't get any job in accounting because their grades and extracurricular activities will show that they have no interest in accounting. However I agree with you in saying that B.Comm is taken by many students as a sort of backup plan, myself included.
Clueless Fox
May 3rd, 2012, 12:21 PM
I disagree, my backup career path was accounting, and I don't even like accounting. Every engineer, comp sci, even some bio students choose BCOM as a backup, why? because it's very doable. And I can guarantee you half of all accountants ugrads are only doing it for the money, not passion.
what's to disagree about? in order to be able to do well in accounting, you must have certain level of interest in the field. you can't make the touted money doing the bare minimum. either that, or you are insanely disciplined and able to build an endurance where you can study/work for an extended period of time. this isn't about 'passion'...a kid who says he wants to be an accountant when he grows up has bigger issues...
what makes accounting hard is that it is mind numbingly repetitive and the numbers tend to overlap and one has to be pedantic, anally retentive and decently organized in some capacity to do it all. at least in the first few years until you're at a point where you can make more judgement calls and it's less number crunching. that again requires either an interest or discipline.
anon666
May 3rd, 2012, 12:50 PM
Remember that Medicine and Law are graduate programs and not undergraduate ones. Medicine requires (for the most part) that you do a science-related undergraduate degree. You can get into law school with any undergraduate program.
No, they are undergraduate programs.
While you will need a first undergraduate degree for med school, the M.D. is still an undergraduate degree.
As for law, you can get into law school without a first undergraduate degree. You need at least 60 credit hours. In fact, in Quebec students can get into law school directly from CEGEP.
chevron
May 3rd, 2012, 01:41 PM
No, they are undergraduate programs.
While you will need a first undergraduate degree for med school, the M.D. is still an undergraduate degree.
As for law, you can get into law school without a first undergraduate degree. You need at least 60 credit hours. In fact, in Quebec students can get into law school directly from CEGEP.
You can get into many med schools after 2 years of undergrad, but they'll want a higher GPA, MCAT and better extracurriculars. Yes, you will have to be a Nietzschian overman.
Applecart
May 3rd, 2012, 02:35 PM
As for law, you can get into law school without a first undergraduate degree. You need at least 60 credit hours. In fact, in Quebec students can get into law school directly from CEGEP.
I am originally from Quebec, and I can tell you that you are only half right about that. While it is true that people can get into law and medicine directly from CEGEP, they are getting into pre-law and pre-med. They are not studying law or medicine until they actually make it into the full program by passing all the required courses with a certain level of GPA. The only benefit of these pre programs is that your acceptance is guaranteed as long as you maintain your GPA. And yeah, you pay only about $2,500 per year for law school when your friend at u of t pays $20,000.
spookie149
May 3rd, 2012, 03:11 PM
No, they are undergraduate programs.
A lot of law schools are moving from LLB programs to JD, graduate programs.
anon666
May 3rd, 2012, 05:01 PM
A lot of law schools are moving from LLB programs to JD, graduate programs.
nope, that doesn't matter. the JD is still an undergraduate degree/programme. the graduate degree are the LLM and SJD.
anon666
May 3rd, 2012, 05:06 PM
I am originally from Quebec, and I can tell you that you are only half right about that. While it is true that people can get into law and medicine directly from CEGEP, they are getting into pre-law and pre-med. They are not studying law or medicine until they actually make it into the full program by passing all the required courses with a certain level of GPA. The only benefit of these pre programs is that your acceptance is guaranteed as long as you maintain your GPA. And yeah, you pay only about $2,500 per year for law school when your friend at u of t pays $20,000.
that's not true. there are people in law and med school in quebec who entered directly from CEGEP. the pre-law and pre-med programme is the CEGEP course of studies. I know this because I personally met them. They were in the same degree program as their peers, but instead were starting at age 19, not 23/24.
BUt these students were rare, and pretty exceptional. not everyone who lives in quebec does this. most still do a BA/BSc first, just like everywhere else in Canada.
Applecart
May 4th, 2012, 02:42 AM
that's not true. there are people in law and med school in quebec who entered directly from CEGEP. the pre-law and pre-med programme is the CEGEP course of studies. I know this because I personally met them. They were in the same degree program as their peers, but instead were starting at age 19, not 23/24.
BUt these students were rare, and pretty exceptional. not everyone who lives in quebec does this. most still do a BA/BSc first, just like everywhere else in Canada.
Well, I have done it myself. Finishing Dawson College with the R score of 35.621 and surviving a school shooting... I applied to medicine at McGill but failed at the interview stage because I was not fully bilingual and I took several summer courses. I know what I am talking about.
CEGEP students never enter into the full degree programs directly. Ask your friends again and they will tell you the truth. What they enter into is a pre-med program in which they have to prove themselves by achieving and maintaining high GPA. If they can pull that off, then they are automatically enrolled into the full fledged programs without any competitive application process.
If you are still in doubt, just ask your friends in Quebec. They will tell you all about this. Alternatively, you could open up the following link. http://www.mcgill.ca/medadmissions/programs/med-p I feel too lazy to post the links for other programs and other universities.