Toronto is not so bad after all.

[mrperfect]

Just wanted to let you folks know that I really had a great time in your city. Im not going to lie, I had way too many reservations about my trip based on what I've read on RFD. But let me tell you that I absolutely enjoyed, I came across nothing but good people, good transportation, good food, good weather, good attractions, infact I felt at home.

Maybe I just got lucky, or maybe I didnt, I think you guys need to cut some slack for your city and see life on the brighter side.

Thank you for a great time and great memories.

I shall return. :)

[damnos]

You never know how it exactly is until you actually live in the city. Until you get stuck in the TTC subway every morning on the way to work and every afternoon on the way home, or when you have to wait for bus or streetcar in the cold and every other day they'll miss their schedule and suddenly 4-5 of them show up at the same time, etc, etc.

In short, visiting doesn't give you clear view of how the city actually is, besides when you are visiting you are more likely to stay in the more crowded / touristy (ie. well served) are practically only the city core.

Or when you have to deal with unions strike that stop garbage pick up and stink up next door pit.

[mrperfect]

You never know how it exactly is until you actually live in the city. Until you get stuck in the TTC subway every morning on the way to work and every afternoon on the way home, or when you have to wait for bus or streetcar in the cold and every other day they'll miss their schedule and suddenly 4-5 of them show up at the same time, etc, etc.

In short, visiting doesn't give you clear view of how the city actually is, besides when you are visiting you are more likely to stay in the more crowded / touristy (ie. well served) are practically only the city core.

Or when you have to deal with unions strike that stop garbage pick up and stink up next door pit.

Points well taken and I agree to what you are saying. I did feel that people are coping up with a lot, are going through some hard time, and there is scarcity of jobs and a few were holding back some rage within themselves. Despite of this the traffic, the civic system, the amenities, the general way of life is not much different than what you can expect in Vancouver. I just cannot believe when people compared Toronto to some American cities... I mean I may not know the full picture of whats going on, and Im being mindful to the fact that every city has its own unique challenges and issues, but I can certainly tell you that a lot of people are way to harsh to whine because it surely wasnt that bad to be honest.

[rob444]

I think you guys need to cut some slack for your city and see life on the brighter side.

Give us a break... most of us are Leaf fans.

[yao416]

U didn't call me brah

[manmanny]

Welcome to Toronto. Toronto is not as bad as people project. And sorry(not really) Canucks lost.

[jwoods1075]

I hate Toronto. Bunch of self-righteous, ego-maniacs. And let's not forget it's an immigrant and refugee magnet as well. Toronto is going down. It's only a matter of time before all you clowns move out to the burbs to escape the city and push us even further out into no-man's land.

[5dark]

...based on what I've read on RFD...

That was probably the problem. RFD is a poor reflection of the real world.

Glad you enjoyed your stay!

[gei]

Just wanted to let you folks know that I really had a great time in your city. Im not going to lie, I had way too many reservations about my trip based on what I've read on RFD. But let me tell you that I absolutely enjoyed, I came across nothing but good people, good transportation, good food, good weather, good attractions, infact I felt at home.

Maybe I just got lucky, or maybe I didnt, I think you guys need to cut some slack for your city and see life on the brighter side.

Thank you for a great time and great memories.

I shall return. :)

Thanks :) Greatest city in the world as far as I'm concerned. RFD'ers tend to whine and complain about everything... I wouldn't take their comments too seriously.

[Salavat23]

Of course, its like that for most things.

The most vocal people are the negative people.

Everything you read on the internet is the darker side of reality.

People with good, positive things to say don't feel as encouraged to voice their opinions as those with negative opinions.

[mrperfect]

Welcome to Toronto. Toronto is not as bad as people project. And sorry(not really) Canucks lost.

I know. Lesson learned, dont believe everything you read on RFD. After reading the gazillion threads about TTC, Mayor, Traffic, Multiculturism and a bunch of other things I too had some reservations for this "failed city" and as to what to expect and was on the downlow, but soon I realised that my approach is just plain wrong on hearsay. Everywhere I went, the people were nothing like how I assumed them to be on RFD, unless maybe the entire city was putting on a good show for me. :D

My point is you guys have everything going your way, have everything that one can have, culture, cuisine, arts, entertainment, transportation, housing I mean everything is there, we just need to see it clearly and adapt.

[Magoo]

Good to hear you had a great time. Many locals like to bash their own city for one reason or another; whether it is warranted or not is another discussion.

When I know of visitors that are coming to visit Toronto either family or colleagues I always tell them about the great things about Toronto. There are so many things to see and do in Toronto and I bet the majority of the locals here don't go out and enjoy these things eg. museums, art galleries, historical sites etc... choose any local and ask them when was the last time they went to the CN Tower - you'll have a good number of them say they've never been.

I've been to Montreal and Vancouver and both cities are great in their own right but they are especially memorable to me because when I visited for the first time everything was new to me. People get spoiled with what Toronto has to offer and seem to be looking for something better.

Bottom line is Toronto has a great night life, great restaurants and a downtown core that's alive.
Glad you had a great time here.

[manmanny]

I know. Lesson learned, dont believe everything you read on RFD. After reading the gazillion threads about TTC, Mayor, Traffic, Multiculturism and a bunch of other things I too had some reservations for this "failed city" and as to what to expect and was on the downlow, but soon I realised that my approach is just plain wrong on hearsay. Everywhere I went, the people were nothing like how I assumed them to be on RFD, unless maybe the entire city was putting on a good show for me. :D

My point is you guys have everything going your way, have everything that one can have, culture, cuisine, arts, entertainment, transportation, housing I mean everything is there, we just need to see it clearly and adapt.

I have no idea why people on RFD or immigrant bash Toronto. The city never feels like its a white city as you move in other parts of Ontario or Canada. Every immigrant with so many colours easily get mixed in this city.

[gei]

Bear in mind the vast majority of RFD'ers live out in the (dull) 'burbs and their only experience/knowledge of Toronto is doing the daily commute into and out of it for school/work etc. Obviously their perspective will not be a particularly positive one.

I'd be pretty pissed in life myself if I was living out in Markham/Brampton/or whatever other suburb...

[gilboman]

You never know how it exactly is until you actually live in the city. Until you get stuck in the TTC subway every morning on the way to work and every afternoon on the way home, or when you have to wait for bus or streetcar in the cold and every other day they'll miss their schedule and suddenly 4-5 of them show up at the same time, etc, etc.

In short, visiting doesn't give you clear view of how the city actually is, besides when you are visiting you are more likely to stay in the more crowded / touristy (ie. well served) are practically only the city core.

Or when you have to deal with unions strike that stop garbage pick up and stink up next door pit.

Exactly..that's why ppl should shut up about MTR in HKG.. it's much more of a sardine can than subways in toronto during rush hour lol

Traffic in toronto is very good compared to hkg or china or many places in the US. But I think most people deal with traffic and public transport is the same everywhere during rush hr. unpredictable. Except in HKG, you line up for half hr at 11pm to go home which is ********.

[SoBored]

Bear in mind the vast majority of RFD'ers live out in the (dull) 'burbs and their only experience/knowledge of Toronto is doing the daily commute into and out of it for school/work etc. Obviously their perspective will not be a particularly positive one.

I'd be pretty pissed in life myself if I was living out in Markham/Brampton/or whatever other suburb...

^^ this.

Most people who bash Toronto here don't live downtown, which is why I had that thread a while ago saying TORONTO should refer to the downtown core instead of the stupid amalgamation of Toronto.

downtown Toronto is a great city, but most RFD'ers here would have you believe it's crawling with homeless people and criminals waiting to rob you at yonge/dundas square.

[vero95]

toronto is horrible mainly due to poor public transit and expensive parking

[NorthYorker]

Toronto is not perfect. It is great, though. Having experience of living for extended periods of time in many great cities, I rank Toronto very high.

[mrperfect]

Very well said, I really doubt anyone (tourists) had any bad time, they wanted to be there and seemed to appreciate the moment, the opportunity to make it happen. It was 10 times as tiring, as expensive, and as cumbersome for us folks to see what we saw, and do what we did, compared to what you could easily do living within your own city.
I'm not merely in awe because it was my first time, I've traveled around the world and seen a lot of places, and found Toronto to be unique, fun, exciting, safe and certainly affordable. In fact I felt things for more value for money than what I have to spend here, if I start complaining and listing out the deficiencies about Vancouver then there will be no tomorrow, but I certainly wont, and most others don't either from here therefore the reason for this thread so that I can offer you guys a outside and bias free view about your city.
Going to sleep at night, and especially when coming back in the flight, I couldnt help but wonder about my opportunity to post this thread, because every time I was doing something there, something clicked in my mind about it based on what I read on RFD and I would simply smile and shake my head. :D


Good to hear you had a great time. Many locals like to bash their own city for one reason or another; whether it is warranted or not is another discussion.

When I know of visitors that are coming to visit Toronto either family or colleagues I always tell them about the great things about Toronto. There are so many things to see and do in Toronto and I bet the majority of the locals here don't go out and enjoy these things eg. museums, art galleries, historical sites etc... choose any local and ask them when was the last time they went to the CN Tower - you'll have a good number of them say they've never been.

I've been to Montreal and Vancouver and both cities are great in their own right but they are especially memorable to me because when I visited for the first time everything was new to me. People get spoiled with what Toronto has to offer and seem to be looking for something better.

Bottom line is Toronto has a great night life, great restaurants and a downtown core that's alive.
Glad you had a great time here.

[15-20_God]

Toronto is a great city. Keep in mind RFD is mostly populated by disenchanted 20 something living in the burbs. Their worldly opinions on urban matters are mostly based on the handful of times they've travelled to asia for 2 weeks with their parents.

[GangStarr]

toronto is horrible mainly due to expensive parking

Your trolling right? Toronto has some of the cheapest parking of any comparable city. Go to Chicago and see what parking there is like.

Now if we sell off green P, then we are in trouble.

Also parking tickets in Toronto are cheaper than most other cities

[NorthYorker]

Go to Chicago and see what parking there is like.To tell you the truth, I don't remember Chicago parking as being particularly expensive comparing to ours. Navy Pier or Soldier Field charge something like $25 a day, if my memory serves me, and that's roughly at par with DT TO parking. And, by the way, Chi-town is a great city too!

[5dark]

Toronto is a great city. Keep in mind RFD is mostly populated by disenchanted 20 something asians living in the burbs. Their worldly opinions on urban matters are mostly based on the handful of times they've travelled to asia for 2 weeks with their parents.

lol another positive thread on RFD turns into complaining about asians

[Jimboski]

Guys It's over, Mrperfect Is not In Toronto, Go back to your bad ways!

[15-20_God]

lol another positive thread on RFD turns into complaining about asians

Isn't RFD just the virtual Pacific Mall?

[vero95]

Your trolling right? Toronto has some of the cheapest parking of any comparable city. Go to Chicago and see what parking there is like.

Now if we sell off green P, then we are in trouble.

Also parking tickets in Toronto are cheaper than most other cities

no, I am not. there is no way to move around using public transport so you have to use a car and if you wanted to visit few places, you would easily spend $100 on parking daily

[thelefteyeguy]

You never know how it exactly is until you actually live in the city. Until you get stuck in the TTC subway every morning on the way to work and every afternoon on the way home, or when you have to wait for bus or streetcar in the cold and every other day they'll miss their schedule and suddenly 4-5 of them show up at the same time, etc, etc.

In short, visiting doesn't give you clear view of how the city actually is, besides when you are visiting you are more likely to stay in the more crowded / touristy (ie. well served) are practically only the city core.

Or when you have to deal with unions strike that stop garbage pick up and stink up next door pit.

youre talking about a commute...commutes suck in every city.

[vero95]

youre talking about a commute...commutes suck in every city.

toronto is worse than la, no? toronto is the worst

[NorthYorker]

there is no way to move around using public transport I'd say that TTC is the better way South of Lawrence between Dufferin and Bayview/Don Valley. OK, make it "South of 401". Outer hoods are mixed bag, depending on proximity of subway.

[rsasp]

You never know how it exactly is until you actually live in the city. Until you get stuck in the TTC subway every morning on the way to work and every afternoon on the way home, or when you have to wait for bus or streetcar in the cold and every other day they'll miss their schedule and suddenly 4-5 of them show up at the same time, etc, etc.

In short, visiting doesn't give you clear view of how the city actually is, besides when you are visiting you are more likely to stay in the more crowded / touristy (ie. well served) are practically only the city core.

Or when you have to deal with unions strike that stop garbage pick up and stink up next door pit.

Lol, those things you mentioned happens in nearly all of the metropolitan on Earth.

[flashy_mcflash]

They're also ridiculous hyperbole. Toronto is great and I wouldn't live in Burlington, Mississauga, or any of the 'burbs if you put a gun to my head. I'll take Toronto, warts and all, ten times out of ten. Haters gonna hate.

[vero95]

They're also ridiculous hyperbole. Toronto is great and I wouldn't live in Burlington, Mississauga, or any of the 'burbs if you put a gun to my head. I'll take Toronto, warts and all, ten times out of ten. Haters gonna hate.

for you it's advantage to live close to your work at the city of toronto

[Talamasca]

You never know how it exactly is until you actually live in the city. Until you get stuck in the TTC subway every morning on the way to work and every afternoon on the way home, or when you have to wait for bus or streetcar in the cold and every other day they'll miss their schedule and suddenly 4-5 of them show up at the same time, etc, etc.

In short, visiting doesn't give you clear view of how the city actually is, besides when you are visiting you are more likely to stay in the more crowded / touristy (ie. well served) are practically only the city core.

Or when you have to deal with unions strike that stop garbage pick up and stink up next door pit.

True but you can say this about any city. A tourist can visit an A+ world-class city like London and rave about it but if you actually live there, you realize that the locals complain about traffic, public transit, the weather, and all the minutiae of urban life just like they do here.

For example, I visited Madrid, Spain a few years ago. Loved the city, did all the touristy things and had a great time for the few days I was there. No issues whatsoever. I didn't have to deal with the fact that 1 in 4 people there are unemployed and the country is in severe socio-economic distress.

In short, GTA-RFDers complain far too much about everything so take all the kvetching with a spoon of salt. Toronto isn't perfect (what is?) but it is a functioning, liveable city with plenty to see and do.

[5dark]

Isn't RFD just the virtual Pacific Mall?

It is if you just want it to be, apparently.

[flashy_mcflash]

for you it's advantage to live close to your work

Of course it is. I'm not ball-and-chained to a car every day and I almost never have to take the 401 or sit in rush hour traffic for any reason. Feels good man.

[sandikosh]

Op, you need to spend much more time in Toronto to get a feel of it. Going where all the tourist visit ain't helping. You need to visit Toronto's infamous Jane & Finch. Multicultural Brampton. Or an evening walk on Jarvis Street.

[5dark]

Op, you need to spend much more time in Toronto to get a feel of it. Going where all the tourist visit ain't helping. You need to visit Toronto's infamous Jane & Finch. Multicultural Brampton. Or an evening walk on Jarvis Street.

I met a rural farmer who moved to Jane and Finch who isn't as afraid of that area as you are; she lives there.

[Oscillator]

I met a rural farmer who moved to Jane and Finch who isn't as afraid of that area as you are; she lives there.

He's a pu*sy, like 90% of RFD. What did you expect? I've walked through Jane and Finch numerous times at midnight, and none of the "gangsters" will even talk to you as long as you don't talk to them. The majority of the people getting shot in Jane and Finch were involved in gang activity in the first place.

[Marcanadian]

If people think Jane and Finch is unsafe, they should visit South Side in Chicago. Jane and Finch can be dangerous, but I've never had any issues with it. Just keep to yourself as you would in any other city.

[Jimboski]

He's a pu*sy, like 90% of RFD. What did you expect? I've walked through Jane and Finch numerous times at midnight, and none of the "gangsters" will even talk to you as long as you don't talk to them. The majority of the people getting shot in Jane and Finch were involved in gang activity in the first place.

pics or It didn't happen.

Hold up a sign saying "Oscillator from RFD".

[manmanny]

Isn't RFD just the virtual Pacific Mall?

so true. Don't try to make emperor angry.

[jaxx lite]

Keep in mind RFD is mostly populated by disenchanted sexless, loveless, humourless, childless people living in badly constructed, leaking, moldy houses or condos.

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[GangStarr]

To tell you the truth, I don't remember Chicago parking as being particularly expensive comparing to ours. Navy Pier or Soldier Field charge something like $25 a day, if my memory serves me, and that's roughly at par with DT TO parking. And, by the way, Chi-town is a great city too!

Speaking of the loop area or mag mile area. Hotel parking ranges in the $40-45 area and there are not lots near by that are cheap. There is no green p equivilent. Street parking in downtown chicago is reasonable but difficult to find. People even park at the end of the street and wait for people to move.

Also most restaurants only have valet parking availible, when there are self park availible you have to give up your keys since they block people in.

Torontos parking rates both monthly and daily are reasonable. Outside of financial district and day time your. Usually pay $5-$15.

Parking prices are quite fair I'd say. If we sell green P like its been discussed, they we will be in for a ride.

[uber_shnitz]

You always feel your city is horrible when you get to live day to day with all its issues. Every city has issues really, some more flagrant or important to people than others depending on what kind of person you are. I'm not saying Toronto isn't as bad/good as people make it out to be, but such a view usually needs to be taken into retrospect or in a comparative tone.

[webdoctors]

If people think Jane and Finch is unsafe, they should visit South Side in Chicago. Jane and Finch can be dangerous, but I've never had any issues with it. Just keep to yourself as you would in any other city.

+1, South side of Chicago is a different world, as you head towards Indiana, you wonder are we even in North America or is this the backdrop for Black Hawk Down the sequel?

Jane and Finch is fine.

[Marcanadian]

+1, South side of Chicago is a different world, as you head towards Indiana, you wonder are we even in North America or is this the backdrop for Black Hawk Down the sequel?

Jane and Finch is fine.

Yeah, my class went to Chicago on a field trip and we stopped off in Gary, Indiana. I've never seen a place so desolate and depressing. No stores open, dilapidated buildings, no pedestrians, only a few cars driving on the road. It was sad.

[heymikey]

Of course Toronto is not so bad. Toronto is ALPHA (http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/images/world2010t.jpg).

[konfusion666]

Of course Toronto is not so bad. Toronto is ALPHA (http://www.lboro.ac.uk/gawc/images/world2010t.jpg).

I always wonder who comes up with these silly lists. (No, wait, I know who... that was rhetorical)

Dubai is ranked equal to Sydney?
Toronto is ranked equal to Los Angeles... and Kuala Lumpur??
Rome is a mere Beta+ city?
Geneva at the same level as Cleveland?
Ottawa at the same level as... Durban and Colombo?

lmao.

[LostInTruth]

Like any tourist, you find pleasure in a city because you visit it for a short amount of time whereas others live there everyday.

The downtown of Chicago is what Toronto should be like. Parking in Chicago is CRAZY expensive, I remember it cost me $100 for like 3 days (and that's considered cheap). I think Toronto should jack up their parking rates and make more people take public transit to downtown. :cheesygri

I'll admit, I usually complain about my hometown but when you pass through other places (I.E. Sarnia, Oakville, Kitchener, small towns) makes me miss home and happy to be close to a true multicultural downtown.

I agree that the city life is not for everyone, but same with suburbia. Personally, I wouldn't mind spending my days in the city and coming home to the burbs to sleep. ;)

[Chigu]

I don't think people can really appreciate what Toronto has to offer unless they actually live somewhere else for a while. I am currently living in Santiago, Chile and although I am loving it here, I now appreciate what Toronto has to offer.

The multiculturalism that exists in Toronto is difficult to find anywhere else. A lot of people take for granted that they can go anywhere in Toronto to get authentic Indian food, Chinese food, hakka food, Greek Food, Viet food, etc etc, try going to virtually any other city (except maybe for London, and New York) and be able to get that. Just walking down the street you see so many different people from all walks of life, here in Santiago I'd say over 90% of the population are native Chileans.

Also if you go to many places in the states, the downtown area is dead after 5:30 or 6:00pm, or is very unsafe. Not so in Toronto.

In my opinion the only 2 things you can complain about Toronto is location/climate (relatively flat, and has hot summers and cold winters), and possibly the transit. However, if you go to any major metropolitan city transit almost always lags behind the increase in population. The system here in Chile is decent, but during rush hour people are packed in like sardines.... Thank god I can walk less than 10 mins to work!!!

Toronto is a fantastic city, and I 'represent' where ever I go. The food, the night life, the tourist attractions, the relative affordability of goods (try buying an iphone in Latin america (it's over 1,000 USD)), the availability of international products at a fair price, the pretty good customer service (you will notice this after having to wait almost 30 mins just to get your bill).

Haterz gonna hate.

[its_mo]

All of you complaining about transit, stop being lazy and buy a bike.

In b4 "but we have Canadian winters!!" It snowed like three times this winter.

[Piro21]

All of you complaining about transit, stop being lazy and buy a bike.

In b4 "but we have Canadian winters!!" It snowed like three times this winter.

I have a bike, and winter doesn't bother me. The ****ing ******** drivers we have in this city bother me. I've almost been hit enough as a pedestrian, I'm not going to risk riding in traffic with them.

[damnos]

I have a bike, and winter doesn't bother me. The ****ing ******** drivers we have in this city bother me. I've almost been hit enough as a pedestrian, I'm not going to risk riding in traffic with them.

and I've seen enough ****ing cyclists who weave through the gaps between cars, or interchanging between acting as vehicle on the road and as pedestrian on the pavement, who sneak through from behind and your blind side when a car already half turning right and doesn't stop at stop signs.

It goes both ways.

[Piro21]

and I've seen enough ****ing cyclists who weave through the gaps between cars, or interchanging between acting as vehicle on the road and as pedestrian on the pavement, who sneak through from behind and your blind side when a car already half turning right and doesn't stop at stop signs.

It goes both ways.

I get that there are ******* bikers out there too, but as a guy who'd like to ride legally without being run over by some prick who feels offended at someone else I'd like there to be more separated bike paths. They should look into cutting off a minor street and making it a bike/busway like they have in Ottawa.

[manmanny]

and I've seen enough ****ing cyclists who weave through the gaps between cars, or interchanging between acting as vehicle on the road and as pedestrian on the pavement, who sneak through from behind and your blind side when a car already half turning right and doesn't stop at stop signs.

It goes both ways.

Damn. I have never seen that. All I have seen them riding on sidewalk. Always.

Again Toronto is not that bad as posted here. Yes Toronto Star is.:razz:

Glad OP enjoyed some time here. He must have felt like in some Asian country.

[UrbanPoet]

I hate Toronto. Bunch of self-righteous, ego-maniacs. And let's not forget it's an immigrant and refugee magnet as well. Toronto is going down. It's only a matter of time before all you clowns move out to the burbs to escape the city and push us even further out into no-man's land.

Do you post on storm front? :|

[mrperfect]

Op, you need to spend much more time in Toronto to get a feel of it. Going where all the tourist visit ain't helping. You need to visit Toronto's infamous Jane & Finch. Multicultural Brampton. Or an evening walk on Jarvis Street.

Im not sure where is the Jarvis Street, but I have strolled around Jane and Finch many times even at night. I saw a lot of good looking girls walking around, they seemed to be college students? I did saw the occasional thug for life gangster wanna be going on with his business, but I didnt receive any hard time from anyone and it certainly was nothing close to East Hastings in Vancouver.
As for Brampton I absolutely loved eating cheap Indian food on the go, and also did some shopping, despite the minor inconvenience of some occasional random guy blazing around his stereo system with windows rolled down everything else was fun and I personally felt nothing wrong with Brampton it was similar to Surrey but I dont know whats the big deal about it? :confused:

[flashy_mcflash]

Nothing is wrong with it. It's got a lot of indian people there and a good portion of RFD is afraid of anyone with darker skin than the tanorexic clones from Jersey Shore.

[manmanny]

I hate Toronto. Bunch of self-righteous, ego-maniacs. And let's not forget it's an immigrant and refugee magnet as well. Toronto is going down. It's only a matter of time before all you clowns move out to the burbs to escape the city and push us even further out into no-man's land.

Its always been like that. For 50-100-150 years or more. This is how any city in the world is formed. With its good and bad side. People from Same country or other countries go to big cities for big bucks.
eduction Fail.

[neutral]

Im not sure where is the Jarvis Street, but I have strolled around Jane and Finch many times even at night. I saw a lot of good looking girls walking around, they seemed to be college students? I did saw the occasional thug for life gangster wanna be going on with his business, but I didnt receive any hard time from anyone and it certainly was nothing close to East Hastings in Vancouver.
As for Brampton I absolutely loved eating cheap Indian food on the go, and also did some shopping, despite the minor inconvenience of some occasional random guy blazing around his stereo system with windows rolled down everything else was fun and I personally felt nothing wrong with Brampton it was similar to Surrey but I dont know whats the big deal about it? :confused:

Some people on this board just need some sort of imagined outlet for their hate. Brampton is fine, Jane and Finch is fine. To hear them tell it, both places are dumps or war zones. These people just aren't that bright.

[mrperfect]

Some people on this board just need some sort of imagined outlet for their hate. Brampton is fine, Jane and Finch is fine. To hear them tell it, both places are dumps or war zones. These people just aren't that bright.

And thats the thing, I will take a wild guess and say that Im pretty sure I must have come across atleast 10 RFD'ers since everyone is from Toronto, and in real life I didnt had the slightest impression of what I will have about some of the folks based on what I read, nobody seemed to be grouchy, whiny or a pain to deal with but they were nothing like that in real life.
Therefore either people are just bored and do this on RFD for the kicks to put down their own city, :razz: or they are putting on a very good show of blending in their real life while they get to pull out from their closets to express what they have to say because of internet anonimity on RFD. :cry:

I would certainly hope for the earlier and believe that most are just trollin for the kicks but they are perfectly satisfied and happy in their living conditions. :cheesygri

[Drew87]

Toronto is a perfectly fine city - I've traveled to over 20 cities in the world and I don't see how there any different then Toronto -


Toronto has developed a "whining" culture and it's sad to see - or at least the online representation of Toronto has developed it -


But to be honest- it's the internet - the people that complain come on here because they need an outlet when things don't go there way or when people don't agree with them.

People with nothing to complain about generally won't be coming online to complain because there living there happy life and enjoying what they have and are trying to make things better...


Most people that come online complain without offering solutions, and then when solutions are offered they STILL complain....

Ignore any grammar or spelling errors - typed this up quickly.

[Drew87]

And thats the thing, I will take a wild guess and say that Im pretty sure I must have come across atleast 10 RFD'ers since everyone is from Toronto, and in real life I didnt had the slightest impression of what I will have about some of the folks based on what I read, nobody seemed to be grouchy, whiny or a pain to deal with but they were nothing like that in real life.
Therefore either people are just bored and do this on RFD for the kicks to put down their own city, :razz: or they are putting on a very good show of blending in their real life while they get to pull out from their closets to express what they have to say because of internet anonimity on RFD. :cry:

I would certainly hope for the earlier and believe that most are just trollin for the kicks but they are perfectly satisfied and happy in their living conditions. :cheesygri

It's a combination of both.

[LostInTruth]

In a nutshell, people lack the social ability for interaction so they hate and troll on these forums (which can be applied in many cases). Those hating on Toronto don't even understand the city/culture, so it's easier to hate. :)

[peanutz]

Why do I get the feeling that mrperfect's #1 gauge of a "decent city" is how many good-looking girls he might see in a given window of a visit? :razz:

Anyway I do a good job of being "polite" in person but most that know me know that I am unflinchingly honest. Apparently sometimes without even knowing that it's kinda rude if it weren't so innocent. Online, my comments aren't accompanied by audible exasperated sighs, pouts, or resigned smiles so I probably come off colder than I am.

Those who have lived in Toronto for a while know that it's seen better days; that's why there are complaints. That's not to say that it still isn't better than many places.

[manmanny]

why do i get the feeling that mrperfect's #1 gauge of a "decent city" is how many good-looking girls he might see in a given window of a visit? :razz:

anyway i do a good job of being "polite" in person but most that know me know that i am unflinchingly honest. Apparently sometimes without even knowing that it's kinda rude if it weren't so innocent. Online, my comments aren't accompanied by audible exasperated sighs, pouts, or resigned smiles so i probably come off colder than i am.

Those who have lived in toronto for a while know that it's seen better days; that's why there are complaints. That's not to say that it still isn't better than many places.

lol.

[92gsr]

I was born and raised in Vancouver, but I have had the privilege of visiting Toronto several times over the past decade. Toronto is the only truly cosmopolitan city in Canada and those of you who call it home should be proud. We Vancouverites like to boast about our diversity, but really it's only Indians who hail from Punjab and Chinese people here. Montreal was probably a great city in the 50s and 60s when the English ran the place, but language politics, decaying infrastructure and a close-minded mentality have taken away Montreal's lustre.

I don't know what to say about the underlaid Asians who populate this forum, but the closet anti-immigration types are free to move to many smaller, friendlier cities in Canada such as Saskatoon, Red Deer, Medicine Hat, Kelowna, etc. I'm sure life is much enjoyable for these types - leave Toronto for us dregs of society.

[bman77]

My only memory of .toronto is a trip from when I was 8, I do remember it very well though. My family stayed in a room that overlooked the rogers centre field so we got to watch Jays games for free, we also paid for one against the White Sox, at the same time all the Canadian Idol finalists were in the hotel which was a neat novelty. We went to the CN Tower of course, took the subway, and walked around downtown. One other thing cool is we say Chris Martin of coldpkay jogging downtown because he was on Much on Demand the next day. I have great memories of Toronto but I would have to think it wouldn't live up to my childhood memories. But it would still definetely beat Winnipeg.No need to rag on it.

[vero95]

My only memory of .toronto is a trip from when I was 8, I do remember it very well though. My family stayed in a room that overlooked the rogers centre field so we got to watch Jays games for free, we also paid for one against the White Sox, at the same time all the Canadian Idol finalists were in the hotel which was a neat novelty. We went to the CN Tower of course, took the subway, and walked around downtown. One other thing cool is we say Chris Martin of coldpkay jogging downtown because he was on Much on Demand the next day. I have great memories of Toronto but I would have to think it wouldn't live up to my childhood memories. But it would still definetely beat Winnipeg.No need to rag on it.

any city would beat winninpeg :facepalm:
that's not a compilment

[bman77]

any city would beat winninpeg :facepalm:
that's not a compilment

lol

Let's all jump on the bandwagon of negativity! Yee haw

[iridium001]

You didn't call me either Mr. P.... :cry: I could have shown you around.

And you were in Brampton aka massage parlor central! Back in the pre-marriage days, I frequented a few of the popular places, could have shown you where to go for a good time. ;)

What happens in Brampton, stays in Brampton. Except for herpes. :lol:

[mrperfect]

You didn't call me either Mr. P.... :cry: I could have shown you around.

And you were in Brampton aka massage parlor central! Back in the pre-marriage days, I frequented a few of the popular places, could have shown you where to go for a good time. ;)

What happens in Brampton, stays in Brampton. Except for herpes. :lol:

Im always looking out for a good time, it seems there was more to Brampton then I ever knew. ;) My apologies, it was just crazy hectic as I tried to cover a lot of places, I will definitely keep you in mind next time.

Cheers

[TheRock2012]

That was probably the problem. RFD is a poor reflection of the real world.

Glad you enjoyed your stay!

:!:
RFD is in a world of itself.

[will888]

I hate Toronto. Bunch of self-righteous, ego-maniacs. And let's not forget it's an immigrant and refugee magnet as well. Toronto is going down. It's only a matter of time before all you clowns move out to the burbs to escape the city and push us even further out into no-man's land.

And we are going to take you down with us, lol.

[dealseeker2011]

Good for you. Hope to see you here next time.