View Full Version : Why is it bad to live with your parents?
Troodon
May 5th, 2012, 04:45 AM
Assuming the house is big enough so you're not bothering them. You can save a lot in monthly rent. If getting an apartment costs $1000 per month, then living with your parents for 5 years is enough to save for a down payment on your own apartment or townhouse. Seems like a RFD thing to do.
Corleone187
May 5th, 2012, 05:14 AM
don't worry bud. when my brother graduated from law school he was living at home even though he was pulling in $XX,XXX a month working for the law firm.
But it's not 5 years like you say, that's just rent, not income. It's more like a month or 2 living at home before you have $$ to buy your own place.
sandikosh
May 5th, 2012, 05:57 AM
I see no problems with it. My kids can stay at home for as long as they want, provided they have a job and can pay their own bills. The benefit to me is that their is someone at home that can take care of their parents and not throw us into foster care.
silicontraveler
May 5th, 2012, 06:17 AM
You might be surprised to find out how many right wing conservative parents aren't even friends with their children. Why would they want them around after age 18?
AudiDude
May 5th, 2012, 06:48 AM
The house up the street has great grand parents/grand parents/parents/kids living in it. A little too much for me but everybody seems to get along. I wonder what the difference is between staying at "home" and paying for maintenance/bills/groceries is between "moving out" and having your parents move in with you and pay off or pay for a large part of your mortgage and then they contribute to paying maintenance/bills/groceries...
I guess if you don't call the shots or at least have a fair voice, you'll want to leave. Some families operate like a business and you pay your share and you have as much voice as everybody else. Some operate like competing businesses.
I know of many useless kids that move out and their parents cut them monthly cheques to make ends meet. The sad thing is when they lie about their children's success after they paid for them and are still paying for them. First they give them a car and then pay for Uni. Then they pay for a large down payment on their house. Then they buy them gifts like washer/drier/fridge/stove and pay for home renovation projects. Then finally they cut monthly cheques because the two Uni grads can't make ends meet to pay their leased vehicles while living the life. I know a few prince/princesses who feel that they have moved out, but have they really. I've got no problem with the above either, but lets call it what it is...
sherman51
May 5th, 2012, 06:52 AM
There's nothing wrong with it but it's all about perception.
If you're 25 and still living at home, the perception is that you don't make enough to live on your own. This can be a turnoff to perpective girlfriends/boyfriends.
The perception is also that you aren't self sufficiant; can't cook for yourself, can't do your own laundry etc.
Living at home is a great idea to save money or to get by but there are always going to be people that look down on you for doing so.
zz000ter
May 5th, 2012, 08:17 AM
You might be surprised to find out how many right wing conservative parents aren't even friends with their children. Why would they want them around after age 18?
Really? How many?
Where are your stats for such a baseless hate-mongering statement?
vaportech
May 5th, 2012, 08:19 AM
Really? How many?
Where are your stats for such a baseless hate-mongering statement?
+1 I would like to know where these facts come from.
epik89
May 5th, 2012, 10:17 AM
30's is the new 20's
so live with parents untill late 30's!
dragon_drift
May 5th, 2012, 10:49 AM
Save money living with them. Con is you can't bring girls over to play.
yao416
May 5th, 2012, 11:06 AM
Save money living with them. Con is you can't bring girls over to play.
Be silent in bed...
Abel4Life
May 5th, 2012, 11:32 AM
Money aspect is only one factor.
Add in the potential 'interference' as in nagging, c*ckblocking, and other privacy events (such as parties) sometimes having parents in the home is not always in your best interest.
007craft
May 5th, 2012, 11:48 AM
I have my own place. If I bring a girl home with me we will be tearing the clothes off each other as we walk through the door. I can imagine a huge buzz kill seeing my mom at the door after I come in asking "whos your new friend" then listening outside my door as we try to do it. The topping on the cake would be when she wants to be polite and makes me and the girl breakfast in the morning and wakes us up to eat it.
appleb
May 5th, 2012, 11:53 AM
IMO it's alright to live with your parents at 30+ if you are actively putting aside money to put towards your own home, rather than wasting it on useless stuff like ipads and vacations.
Kunman
May 5th, 2012, 11:53 AM
Money aspect is only one factor.
Add in the potential 'interference' as in nagging, c*ckblocking, and other privacy events (such as parties) sometimes having parents in the home is not always in your best interest.
To me personally, the economical benefits are greater than the losses mentioned above.
gibguitar
May 5th, 2012, 11:59 AM
Money aspect is only one factor.
Add in the potential 'interference' as in nagging, c*ckblocking, and other privacy events (such as parties) sometimes having parents in the home is not always in your best interest.
Yeah, really. Do you want to be in your late 20's dealing with all the nagging?
"TROODON, would you like some eggs?" "TROODON, I told you to put the dirty dishes into the sink!"
Do you really want to deal with that *****? How many times will your eyes be rolled into the back of your head before you realize the price you pay for your own place is worth it.
And the generalization that chicks dig dudes with their own place is true. It doesn't have to be a mansion, it could be a freakin' closet... as long as you keep the place clean and odour free, the ladies will love you. The key is keeping the bathroom immaculate. The bed can be messy. Learn to scramble your own freakin eggs, learn to use a dishwasher and dryer, and learn to live on a reasonable wage.
It isn't "bad" to live with your parents, it's just not a lifestyle most people could stand after a certain point.
I'll admit it, I don't live on my own anymore because I can't afford it. But that period of time when I finally moved out and had my own little pad was the best few years of my life.
Nukey
May 5th, 2012, 12:25 PM
Being self sufficient is underrated on this forum :)
uber_shnitz
May 5th, 2012, 12:37 PM
Depends who you are.
Like people said, there's a social stigma associated with living with your parents, but once again, really depends. For example, if you're already in a committed relationship and she knows you're living with your parents (and they know her), I don't really see it as much of an issue for the whole cockblock stuff. In high school my gf would sleep over at my place and my parents were cool with it. Sure you can't really host parties but I was never one for hosting because I hate cleaning up after lol.
I've lived alone one year during school and I've come back for the summer to save on rent. So far, I'd say my lifestyle hasn't hugely changed. It's cool to be self sufficient and not have to answer to anyone in my place, but it's also nice to have a "family atmosphere" to come back to after work on weekdays when you're not going out.
But like people said, past a certain age the stigma will only grow. A 20 year old living at home won't have the same reaction with people as a 30 year old let alone a 40 year old :razz:. I think general social "status quo" is that you can stay a few years after graduating but should be moving out once you're carreer/financially stable.
Ducky
May 5th, 2012, 12:37 PM
Why do ppl care so much if other ppl look down on those who live with parents...
Its your life...you only live it once...
Do whatever nakes you happy...who cares what others think...
There are many reasons why one should live with parents other than for $$$ reasons...
As for the privacy for sex part, the $$ you save can be used for a cheap motel...
I don't live with parents but I don't look down upon those who do...
I disagree about the poster who said "vacations" are a waste of $$$
mtmp5k
May 5th, 2012, 12:40 PM
If you are over 25 and live with parents then your drinking some lamesauce
You only live your life once - do you want to live it freely, go out whenever you want at night, bring chicks home, party (be responsible as well - pay your bills / study)
OR
do you want to live like a caged animal? with no privacy. if your a mommas boy then this shouldnt be a problem
CDNPatriot
May 5th, 2012, 12:42 PM
It all depends. If you are going to live at home, make sure that this doesn't ruin your relationship with your parents. If you don't get a long best to get out it ain't worth the savings if it's hurting your relationship with them.
Aznsilvrboy
May 5th, 2012, 12:51 PM
Canada was ranked the 7th hottest real estate market in the world recently based on research by global real estate consultancy Knight Frank which ranks countries according to highest average growth in housing prices from the fourth quarter of 2006 to the same period in 2011. Canada's 5 year price growth was 28.7 percent. Pretty sure salaries haven't grown 28.7% in the same period, so it's no wonder more people live with parents now because they can't afford to buy their own house.
7. Canada (tie)
5-year price growth: 28.7 percent
Canada's housing market has stayed robust over the past few years, unlike its neighbor the U.S., where the housing market is still to recover from the 2008 global financial crisis.
Existing home sales in Canada rose 8.6 percent in February, compared to a year earlier, while housing starts beat expectations in March to 215,600 units, up from 205,300 in February, largely due to a surge in apartment construction.
The country's most populous province Ontario, which has seen heavy investment come into condominiums, had multiple urban starts shoot up more than 50 percent in March, according to the Canada Mortgage and Housing Corporation. The IMF warned in December that Canadian homes were overpriced on average by 10 percent .
Canada's most expensive property market, Vancouver, has also been a big draw for foreign buyers. Despite no official figure on the number of homes sold in the city to mainland Chinese investors , the group is said to be pushing the market up. Often ranked among the world's best places to live, Vancouver saw property prices in prime markets jump 10.4 percent in the third quarter of 2011 from the period last year, according to Knight Frank. (Fourth quarter prices were not available.)
The average price for a residential property in Vancouver was $734,207 in December, compared with the national average of $358,261, according to the Canadian Real Estate Association.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/47197011/ns/business-world_business/t/worlds-hottest-real-estate-markets/#.T6VaJ8XcAeg
MrKap
May 5th, 2012, 12:56 PM
Because it means you are a loser.
You want the truth right?
I am perfectly okay with being a loser however.
It's better than sucking the private parts 24/7 on a mis-directed slave grinder and paying outrageous amount in rent money to an entrepreneurial slum lord.
Let's face it, the only people who aren't living with their parents, have either destroyed any and all good will between themselves and the family, or they're one step away from debt induced seppuku, or they are really young and low balling the previous generation out of jobs.
dragon_drift
May 5th, 2012, 12:58 PM
Be silent in bed...
impossible, the rumbling causes suspicion.:cheesygri
DearSummer
May 5th, 2012, 01:01 PM
Why do ppl care so much if other ppl look down on those who live with parents...
Its your life...you only live it once...
Do whatever nakes you happy...who cares what others think...
There are many reasons why one should live with parents other than for $$$ reasons...
As for the privacy for sex part, the $$ you save can be used for a cheap motel...
I don't live with parents but I don't look down upon those who do...
I disagree about the poster who said "vacations" are a waste of $$$
You haven't been with many women, have you? ;)
MrKap
May 5th, 2012, 01:09 PM
You haven't been with many women, have you? ;)
I am actually surprised that it seems to make no difference at all to some women if you live with your parents or not. I guess some are just looking for cheap thrills and love, while the rest have all gone pro.
jaxx lite
May 5th, 2012, 01:13 PM
As for the privacy for sex part, the $$ you save can be used for a cheap motel..
Some people are sexless
- don't want sex
no joke
=
MrKap
May 5th, 2012, 01:17 PM
or give up dream of buying a badly constructed, moldy house /condo
-
Yeah, how did houses practically double in value in the 90s. I'm not a real estate agent, but that's what happened right? Tripled in value in some instances.
It was like cheap housing right up to the 90s. What happened?
Not sure if this is right, but maybe I am not wrong.
http://sites.google.com/site/torontorealestatecharts/HistoricalPrices
Chart points out that it was more like the late 80s that they went up.
giggety
May 5th, 2012, 01:28 PM
I lived as long as I could with my parents. It was my dad that came to me when I was 25 and said "son I want to have sex with your mother in any room at any time and you are cramping my style .... get out"
manmanny
May 5th, 2012, 01:32 PM
Yeah, how did houses practically double in value in the 90s. I'm not a real estate agent, but that's what happened right? Tripled in value in some instances.
It was like cheap housing right up to the 90s. What happened?
Not sure if this is right, but maybe I am not wrong.
http://sites.google.com/site/torontorealestatecharts/HistoricalPrices
Chart points out that it was more like the late 80s that they went up.
That's life.
The decade changed. Time never stops. May be for you...It will start moving you stop smoking. How old are you? Are you in Jr High still?
I am sorry coming like this but some of the posts are just nuts. Not that all of your post I read. or read in last few weeks. So please forgive me for that.
Assuming the house is big enough so you're not bothering them. You can save a lot in monthly rent. If getting an apartment costs $1000 per month, then living with your parents for 5 years is enough to save for a down payment on your own apartment or townhouse. Seems like a RFD thing to do.
EDIT:
And OP
Even if the house is big they should have their own house/apt. But That's just me.
MrKap
May 5th, 2012, 01:33 PM
I lived as long as I could with my parents. It was my dad that came to me when I was 25 and said "son I want to have sex with your mother in any room at any time and you are cramping my style .... get out"
Usually it's the other way around isn't it?
The decade changed. Time never stops. May be for you...It will start moving you stop smoking. How old are you? Are you in Jr High still?
I am sorry coming like this but some of the posts are just nuts. Not that all of your post I read. or read in last few weeks. So please forgive me for that.
Of course time never stops, but good opportunities are few and far between.
I'm not the exception, I am pretty much just another statistic. There are tons of people, just like me.
You are probably in the same boat more or less.
If there was one mistake in my belief system looking back, it was that not having a family would somehow be an advantage. Now I see that people with families have no choices and are simply driven harder, and are fiercer competitors for the well paying jobs.
giggety
May 5th, 2012, 01:35 PM
Usually it's the other way around isn't it?
Usually but my gf lived at home and here dad was never home so we would just go there.
uber_shnitz
May 5th, 2012, 01:37 PM
Should also mention how gender plays a role. A guy is expected by society to be independent and self-sufficient so there's more "pressure" for them to live alone whereas I don't recall that much social stigma with a girl under 30 living at home.
Wing Nut
May 5th, 2012, 01:41 PM
30's is the new 20's
so live with parents untill late 30's!
As a parent of kids in their mid to late 30s, I should report this to the mods for encouraging a serious risk to my lifestyle. :D
ishfish
May 5th, 2012, 01:41 PM
Studies on emptinesters support that happiness goes up once all the jrs leave home (even if the parents were reluctant at first).
So the warning is: if you leave beware they won't be wanting you back. They'll stop feeding you cheese. So until you can afford your own cheese...
MrKap
May 5th, 2012, 01:44 PM
So the warning is: if you leave beware they won't be wanting you back.
Who said they ever wanted you there in the first place?
But I do get this, and it seems the younger the parents are, the more vigilant or upset they are about sharing space. The older they are, it seems to matter less. jmo...
I know very few people who are in their 50s or 60s and still living with thier parent(s), but they seem to be a permanent and happy about it.
Meanwhile anyone I knew that had parents in their thirties, were pretty much ejected from the premises early in life, and there was a mutual understanding there would be no return under any circumstances.
aTriangle
May 5th, 2012, 01:47 PM
Studies on emptinesters support that happiness goes up once all the jrs leave home (even if the parents were reluctant at first).
So the warning is: if you leave beware they won't be wanting you back. They'll stop feeding you cheese. So until you can afford your own cheese...
Link to studies?
Is it cross-cultural?
aTriangle
May 5th, 2012, 01:48 PM
Should also mention how gender plays a role. A guy is expected by society to be independent and self-sufficient so there's more "pressure" for them to live alone whereas I don't recall that much social stigma with a girl under 30 living at home.
This is probably culture-bound.
ishfish
May 5th, 2012, 02:08 PM
Link to studies?
Is it cross-cultural?
Good questions.
The link is in a text book from a socio class, likely burried in my basement or more likely recycled. I heard this finding again more recently on the radio. In regards to the cross cultural aspect I do not know. I suppose adult children in some cultures may be less irritating and less needy.
MrKap - maybe generations living together work out better in the more advanced ages due to the blessings of hearing impairments and the like.
Abel4Life
May 5th, 2012, 02:22 PM
Why do ppl care so much if other ppl look down on those who live with parents...
Its your life...you only live it once...
Do whatever nakes you happy...who cares what others think...
There are many reasons why one should live with parents other than for $$$ reasons...
As for the privacy for sex part, the $$ you save can be used for a cheap motel...
I don't live with parents but I don't look down upon those who do...
I disagree about the poster who said "vacations" are a waste of $$$
Sex is only one of many things for privacy.
Dinner parties with friends or watching the sports games. Add in alcohol and rowdiness etc. I'm sure people would feel weird with parents around once at a certain age.
Just another example.
Ducky
May 5th, 2012, 02:50 PM
Just ask nicely to your parents to leave the house for the night..
Sex is only one of many things for privacy.
Dinner parties with friends or watching the sports games. Add in alcohol and rowdiness etc. I'm sure people would feel weird with parents around once at a certain age.
Just another example.
bullionaire
May 5th, 2012, 03:03 PM
Nothing wrong with that, unless we're talking about going Brampton.
squagles
May 5th, 2012, 03:32 PM
This is probably culture-bound.
Totally. My Scotch parents wanted me out when I was 19. My buddies Italian parents were begging him to stay when he was 25.
EPcjay
May 5th, 2012, 04:14 PM
I've noticed the friends that do live with their parents after 20s have developed a reliance on their parents, and no independence what so ever.
Corleone187
May 5th, 2012, 04:53 PM
It basically comes down to a few things.
1) Renting vs Owning
2) dependence vs independence
Most likely if you leave at 18 you are gonna be renting and dependent on the landlord providing you a place to live month after month, paycheck to paycheck.
If you leave later, say my best friend for example left at 28 or something. Basically when he left his parent's, he bought condo 1/2 paid for, no car payment + he bought his dad a car, everything cash, no borrowing or anything. So owning his own home instead of renting and being independent by owning his own home instead of being dependent on someone else by renting
Pretty much everyone of my family/close friends I know, no one ever rented even once in their life, they just bought their condo/home
If you don't make a lot of money it doesn't really matter if you stay with your parents or move out cause you will be renting regardless.
But if you make pretty good money after University you are just gonna stay with your parents for a few months to a year and just buy a home instead. Just makes more sense to be independent this way and not be dependent on a landlord and living by his rules
No Frills
May 5th, 2012, 05:51 PM
Its not bad to live with your parents.
The sexual differences has been told a million times.
The independence isnt (just) doing the stupid things....its the experience of furnishing your own place and looking into those things. Filling your fridge up with food that you bought, preparing it in YOUR kitchen with YOUR utensils. Having the bathroom set up your way...its another part of living which before you had no say.
I find it silly when someone is 30 and never shopped for their own food in the supermarket unless it was for going to a cottage.
Its still not a bad thing living with parents. The way the economy is this day in age and what the boomers have compared to gen y it seems practical with the financial circumstances.
Nevertheless it feels better to go to sleep in the master bedroom. If you're living with your parents as an adult and still own a twin bed, then lol....happy savings!
dealseeker2011
May 6th, 2012, 10:04 AM
It's not that bad though. We just need to be practical so we can have the best life that we want.
92gsr
May 6th, 2012, 07:24 PM
In a place like Vancouver where salaries are low and housing costs are high, it makes sense to be a renter.
I have friends who make 80-90K a year and they still live at home in their 30s. Sure they claim to be independent and they're saving money, but they're missing something - they're not fully mature.
A girl that I'm seeing basically ripped one of my friends the other day who claimed to be doing the right thing financially by living at home instead of renting. For women, it's all about perception: they want a guy who can stand on his own two feet. It's not about how financially savvy he is.
I know guys here will rip women for not being logical, but ultimately women see the world through a different lens. And if you ever want to meet somebody before the age of 40, you might just have to eat your pride and pay someone else's mortgage, even if just for a year or two. Considering that many users on RFD are an ethnic minority of some sort, you'll need every advantage you can get in the jungle that is the dating scene.
mtmp5k
May 6th, 2012, 08:31 PM
Im seeing a disturbing trend where its ok for a woman for stay at home but not a man.
What gives?