Should Markham become a City?

[philliplewis98]

I read this on this Article http://www.yorkregion.com/news/article/1350562--markham-could-be-city-as-of-july-1


Markham could become a city effective July 1 and you have until the end of May to have your say.
The motion, introduced by Councillor Alex Chiu last month to upgrade the town status, received nods from the town’s general committee Monday.
“I have a feeling this is the time to do it,” Deputy Mayor Jack Heath said.
Mr. Heath proposed that a public meeting be held later this month, followed by a final council vote on the same day.


http://www.yorkregion.com/news/article/1353197--markham-city-destined-for-greatness-mayor

and here another one http://www.thestar.com/news/cityhallpolitics/article/1175853--town-of-markham-contemplates-becoming-a-city

[sandikosh]

What difference will it make?

[philliplewis98]

What difference will it make?

There may be hundreds of you that are scared of change and who would rather have a referendum on every decision made. However, there are TENS OF THOUSANDS of us who have been waiting for decades for this very moment in Markham's history when it will make the transition from Toronto's suburb to a prosperous CITY on it's own. Many of us who are homeowners (90% in Markham), have invested our life savings into Markham and will support any decision that will increase our property value and mitigate the risk of an overall burst in the GTA "housing bubble". There are also thousands of business owners who will fully support any decision that will increase the economic prosperity of Markham. MOST PEOPLE IN MARKHAM are happy that we have a council who realize that in today's competitive world, often indecision is worse than wrong decision. They are acting in the best economic interest of Markham and are laying the foundations for our future...and all but a few hundred of us can see that.

[iEyeCaptain]

There may be hundreds of you that are scared of change and who would rather have a referendum on every decision made. However, there are TENS OF THOUSANDS of us who have been waiting for decades for this very moment in Markham's history when it will make the transition from Toronto's suburb to a prosperous CITY on it's own. Many of us who are homeowners (90% in Markham), have invested our life savings into Markham and will support any decision that will increase our property value and mitigate the risk of an overall burst in the GTA "housing bubble". There are also thousands of business owners who will fully support any decision that will increase the economic prosperity of Markham. MOST PEOPLE IN MARKHAM are happy that we have a council who realize that in today's competitive world, often indecision is worse than wrong decision. They are acting in the best economic interest of Markham and are laying the foundations for our future...and all but a few hundred of us can see that.

So.. what difference will it make?

[sandikosh]

There may be hundreds of you that are scared of change and who would rather have a referendum on every decision made. However, there are TENS OF THOUSANDS of us who have been waiting for decades for this very moment in Markham's history when it will make the transition from Toronto's suburb to a prosperous CITY on it's own. Many of us who are homeowners (90% in Markham), have invested our life savings into Markham and will support any decision that will increase our property value and mitigate the risk of an overall burst in the GTA "housing bubble". There are also thousands of business owners who will fully support any decision that will increase the economic prosperity of Markham. MOST PEOPLE IN MARKHAM are happy that we have a council who realize that in today's competitive world, often indecision is worse than wrong decision. They are acting in the best economic interest of Markham and are laying the foundations for our future...and all but a few hundred of us can see that.

Like I said, what difference will it make?

[AudiDude]

So.. what difference will it make?


Like I said, what difference will it make?

What they said...

[uber_shnitz]

I'm assuming the main difference will be that Markham can now charge its own municipal taxes?

[gman]

There is no difference. The only difference is certain individuals think there is a difference. Certain individuals think with the title "Town", "I am living in rural area" instead of a city or vice versa.

[gman]

I'm assuming the main difference will be that Markham can now charge its own municipal taxes?

Markham is already charging its own municipal taxes.

[CDNPatriot]

How would a label from "town" to "city" save you from a housing crash? Tell you what, after the market crashes I'm willing to wager that Markham houses drop more percentage wise than Toronto homes.


There may be hundreds of you that are scared of change and who would rather have a referendum on every decision made. However, there are TENS OF THOUSANDS of us who have been waiting for decades for this very moment in Markham's history when it will make the transition from Toronto's suburb to a prosperous CITY on it's own. Many of us who are homeowners (90% in Markham), have invested our life savings into Markham and will support any decision that will increase our property value and mitigate the risk of an overall burst in the GTA "housing bubble". There are also thousands of business owners who will fully support any decision that will increase the economic prosperity of Markham. MOST PEOPLE IN MARKHAM are happy that we have a council who realize that in today's competitive world, often indecision is worse than wrong decision. They are acting in the best economic interest of Markham and are laying the foundations for our future...and all but a few hundred of us can see that.

[uber_shnitz]

Well then I'm stumped lol :lol:

[philliplewis98]

Some people want to stay a town, but who are you kidding you can call yourself anything, but people will still look at you as a city

[sandikosh]

There is no difference. The only difference is certain individuals think there is a difference. Certain individuals think with the title "Town", "I am living in rural area" instead of a city or vice versa.

First you said "there is no difference". Then you said "the only difference...". Can you make up your mind. You look confused.

[gman]

First you said "there is no difference". Then you said "the only difference...". Can you make up your mind. You look confused.

May be I should have said there is no real difference and only certain people think there is a difference.

[uber_shnitz]

Sooo if it doesn't make a difference, will it cost a difference? Basically I'm asking if there are no pros, are there any cons?

If not, why would we even bother voting on it?

[gman]

Sooo if it doesn't make a difference, will it cost a difference? Basically I'm asking if there are no pros, are there any cons?

If not, why would we even bother voting on it?

The con is the cost of changing the title such as all the signs, all the letter head, uniform, paint on the Markham public vehicle, etc.

[philliplewis98]

Look on this http://www2.markham.ca/markham/ccbs/indexfile/Agendas/2012/General/gc120507/City%20of%20Markham%20Report.pdf

[uber_shnitz]

The con is the cost of changing the title such as all the signs, all the letter head, uniform, paint on the Markham public vehicle, etc.
Ok then I don't see the point if there isn't any benefit other than the placebo.

[chinesedevil]

Dam....I always thought Markham was a city :facepalm:

[sandikosh]

The con is the cost of changing the title such as all the signs, all the letter head, uniform, paint on the Markham public vehicle, etc.

So why change it? Does Markham have a surplus of tax payers money it needs to spend?

[007craft]

I grew up in markham. 24 years there. I always considered it a city. Deff too big to be a town I would say. However if they are gonna start calling it a city, they need to get thier act together on the downtown part and transit. Transit in markham is decent in the core and west end, but is horrid in the east end. And they need it to link up with toronto (ttc) better. Remove the extra fee to cross steeles. Have a bus come more than once an hour on Markham road. Also, bring an NHL team :)

[sandikosh]

I grew up in markham. 24 years there. I always considered it a city. Deff too big to be a town I would say. However if they are gonna start calling it a city, they need to get thier act together on the downtown part and transit. Transit in markham is decent in the core and west end, but is horrid in the east end. And they need it to link up with toronto (ttc) better. Remove the extra fee to cross steeles. Have a bus come more than once an hour on Markham road. Also, bring an NHL team :)

Times have changed since you last lived in Markham. Considering the makeup of Markham, an NHL team will never live past it's first season.

[gman]

So why change it? Does Markham have a surplus of tax payers money it needs to spend?

Someone thinks it is cool to have the title "city". Someone does not mind wasting our money.

[philliplewis98]

I grew up in markham. 24 years there. I always considered it a city. Deff too big to be a town I would say. However if they are gonna start calling it a city, they need to get thier act together on the downtown part and transit. Transit in markham is decent in the core and west end, but is horrid in the east end. And they need it to link up with toronto (ttc) better. Remove the extra fee to cross steeles. Have a bus come more than once an hour on Markham road. Also, bring an NHL team :)

I thinks that Public Meeting Scheduled for May 12th to discuss Transit in York Region.


Whether it’s all-day GO service or finally building the Yonge subway extension, someone is going to have to pay to expand transit in the GTA and that someone is you.
A group of experts will sit down with GTA residents in Markham May 12 to talk seriously about how to get transit moving across the region.
Such forums are critical for creating dialogue about the increasingly important issue, especially as it moves from the expert and academic level down to residents, University of Toronto planning professor Matti Siemiatycki said.
That’s precisely why Unionville Ratepayers Association president Peter Miasek wanted to put together Moving Forward — A Public Forum on Transportation and Transit.
It brings together some of the foremost experts on the matter, including Metrolinx vice-president John Howe, Richard Joy from the Toronto Board of Trade and academics such as Mr. Siemiatycki and University of Toronto Cities Centre chairperson Eric Miller.
Bringing them all to the table is the Federation of Urban Neighbourhoods, a collection of ratepayer groups, including the Markham Action Group for Improved Community, representing 40 neigbourhoods, the Federation of North Toronto Residents’ Associations and the Mississauga Residents’ Associations Network, who between them represent another 60 neighbourhoods.
Metrolinx is set to unveil its strategy for funding transit by mid-2013, but the discussion of what it might entail is increasingly on the minds and tongues of GTA residents.
Mr. Miasek has attended forums led by academics and professionals looking at the issues, but thought it was time to involve members of the public.
“I’m sure it’s growing, but there’s a ways to go,” Mr. Miasek said of the general tolerance for the ideas that will be on the table.
“We’ve missed out on a generation of building infrastructure and it’s starting to catch up with us in all sorts of different ways,” Mr. Siemiatycki said.
In recent months, the conversation has moved from where we draw routes on a map to how we’re going to pay to build them, he said.
A recent poll found 74 per cent of GTA residents are willing to put up with paying some kind of tax directed toward transit expansion and Mr. Miasek doesn’t think 905ers are any less willing than Torontonians to get the ball rolling.
“It’s not just a downtown issue; it’s a regional problem,” Mr. Siemiatycki said.
Mr. Miasek also takes heart from a 2008 referendum in Los Angeles, a city notorious for its car culture, in which residents voted to implement a sales tax that will raise $40 billion for transit expansion.
Some mix of a sales tax, parking levy and gas tax could spread the costs around and provide the needed funds, Mr. Miasek said.
Moving Forward is May 12 from 1 to 3 p.m. in council chambers at the Markham Civic Centre.
The forum is free, but reservations are required.
To reserve a spot or for information, visit urbanneighbourhoods.ca

[iEyeCaptain]

I don't care if they call Markham an island.

[AudiDude]

I grew up in markham. 24 years there. I always considered it a city. Deff too big to be a town I would say. However if they are gonna start calling it a city, they need to get thier act together on the downtown part and transit. Transit in markham is decent in the core and west end, but is horrid in the east end. And they need it to link up with toronto (ttc) better. Remove the extra fee to cross steeles. Have a bus come more than once an hour on Markham road. Also, bring an NHL team :)

I live in Pickering. Don't care whether it is a town, city, whatever. I can tell you that the more public transit you bring will bring more people and make the area really densely populated. I still don't think there is a decent plan to take care of all the people that are going to jam the crap out of the place at Warden and 7. I hate to say it but public transit gives people access to areas that were previously uncongested and make the area undesirable for those who value peace and quiet in controlled neighbourhood. Add lots of people and have them rent and the downward spiral begins.

All the older people planting their begonias on a peaceful Sunday afternoon who think "City" sounds cool aren't going to be when renters are standing outside the front door having a loud conversation at midnight flicking cigarette butts into their garden...

[whampoa]

So why change it? Does Markham have a surplus of tax payers money it needs to spend?

GTA Centre will take care of that.

[t3359]

Briefly looked at the PDF that someone posted - looks like it's mostly for branding. I think some people want to live in the "cosiness" of a town, but bigger business (e.g. Tech) want to be seen as part of a city.

The PDF didn't say much will change... Maybe we'll get subways before Toronto extends theirs ;-)

bjl

[Kohanz]

Markham City? Markham Asylum? I have nothing else to add...

[_Allan_]

The problem is, there are no legal definition of what a City can do that a Town can't do.
The Government of Canada needs to make an act that says "Hamlets can do xx, Villages can do xx more, Towns can do xx more, Cities can do xx, Regional Municipalities are equivalent to a city and can do xx, but also xx and xx." etc.

From Wikipedia:

In Canada, the granting of city status is handled by the individual provinces and territories. Therefore, city status definitions and criteria vary widely across the country. In British Columbia and Saskatchewan, towns can become cities after they reach a population of 5,000 people,[27][28] but the threshold is 10,000 in Alberta,[29] New Brunswick,[30] and Ontario. In Manitoba, an urban municipality may not be named as a city unless its population meets or exceeds 7,500 people.[31]

Although it has numerous cities in the traditional sense of the term, Ontario also sometimes confers city status on primarily rural areas whose municipalities have been merged into a former county government. Nova Scotia has abolished city status altogether, replacing it with regional municipality status.

In Quebec, there is no legal distinction between a city and a town, as both have the legal status of ville. The province formerly differentiated between ville (town) and cité (city), but no longer does so.

[Kris81]

if markham stays a town:

When people ask you where you from you say "i'm from a place outside of toronto"

if markham becomes a city:

When people ask you where you are from you say "i'm from markham.. MARKHAM REPRESENT! BRAP! BRAP!"

[RealEst8]

maybe if Markham wasn't so spaced out and lacked a central business/financial district then maybe it can be considered a city. Markham Centre is far from being complete so wtf is with the need to be called a city?

[BornRuff]

There may be hundreds of you that are scared of change and who would rather have a referendum on every decision made. However, there are TENS OF THOUSANDS of us who have been waiting for decades for this very moment in Markham's history when it will make the transition from Toronto's suburb to a prosperous CITY on it's own. Many of us who are homeowners (90% in Markham), have invested our life savings into Markham and will support any decision that will increase our property value and mitigate the risk of an overall burst in the GTA "housing bubble". There are also thousands of business owners who will fully support any decision that will increase the economic prosperity of Markham. MOST PEOPLE IN MARKHAM are happy that we have a council who realize that in today's competitive world, often indecision is worse than wrong decision. They are acting in the best economic interest of Markham and are laying the foundations for our future...and all but a few hundred of us can see that.


Look on this http://www2.markham.ca/markham/ccbs/indexfile/Agendas/2012/General/gc120507/City%20of%20Markham%20Report.pdf

Nothing in that link supports what you said in the big post that I quoted.

All the link does is say they want to change the name, and talk about how awesome Markham is.

It seems pretty meaningless, just a name change.

[Abel4Life]

As one of my close friends always said 'It is a dream for a downtown familiy to move to Markham'.

[damnos]

What difference will it make?


So.. what difference will it make?

What are the chances the councillors (and practically everybody working in the town / city) will give themselves a raise (salary, benefits, pensions, etc) because now they are managing a "city" rather than a "town".

[Jon Lai]

maybe if Markham wasn't so spaced out and lacked a central business/financial district then maybe it can be considered a city. Markham Centre is far from being complete so wtf is with the need to be called a city?

So why are Vaughan and Mississauga cities then?

[philliplewis98]

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[philliplewis98]

So why are Vaughan and Mississauga cities then?

and what about brampton, oshawa?

[jason9945]

Unless it improves the quality of the drivers, I don't give a ****. :D

[philliplewis98]

Ah Look on this one http://www.markham.ca/wps/wcm/connect/94fc9f804b3214079e05debdcda788a1/20120510_Mayor_BOTSpeech-v2.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=94fc9f804b3214079e05debdcda788a1

[whampoa]

What are the chances the councillors (and practically everybody working in the town / city) will give themselves a raise (salary, benefits, pensions, etc) because now they are managing a "city" rather than a "town".

If I am not mistaken, Markham and the region of York has some of the highest paid councillors, civil servants and police forces in the GTA.

City or not.

That's why the city of Toronto is running a deficit, the city employees always compare their paycheck to their York region brethren.

Not the other way around.

[sandikosh]

What are the chances the councillors (and practically everybody working in the town / city) will give themselves a raise (salary, benefits, pensions, etc) because now they are managing a "city" rather than a "town".

Me no care. Me no live in Markham.

[philliplewis98]

Me no care. Me no live in Markham.

But do you care of Toronto?

[Canuck32]

The problem is, there are no legal definition of what a City can do that a Town can't do.
The Government of Canada needs to make an act that says "Hamlets can do xx, Villages can do xx more, Towns can do xx more, Cities can do xx, Regional Municipalities are equivalent to a city and can do xx, but also xx and xx." etc.


Without getting too technical, municipalities are creatures of provincial governments. If the Government of Canada passed any such law it would be ultra vires.

[sandikosh]

But do you care of Toronto?

No, that is how we got Ford!

[RealEst8]

So why are Vaughan and Mississauga cities then?

I don't know, maybe you can tell me? I personally don't care about the title. Do you?

[vaportech]

Difference is we will be paying more taxes next year for all those old signs that town of markham to city of markham or markham city or w.e.

just like how it costed millions to change toronto police force to toronto police service.

[Billa-786]

You could name it anything..from Slum city Markham...to Republic of Markham...fact is when you are away from Canada, you will always tell people you are from Toronto. Same for any suburb of Toronto.

[BD006]

if markham stays a town:

When people ask you where you from you say "i'm from a place outside of toronto"

if markham becomes a city:

When people ask you where you are from you say "i'm from markham.. MARKHAM REPRESENT! BRAP! BRAP!"

I lol'd

[uber_shnitz]

You could name it anything..from Slum city Markham...to Republic of Markham...fact is when you are away from Canada, you will always tell people you are from Toronto. Same for any suburb of Toronto.

This. This holds true for any small community near a large metropolitan area.

[jason9945]

You could name it anything..from Slum city Markham...to Republic of Markham...fact is when you are away from Canada, you will always tell people you are from Toronto. Same for any suburb of Toronto.

When i did this in the states I was surprised at how many people would respond to me saying I went to school in toronto with "Oh yeah, thats near Mississauga isn't it? I went there for *whatever*"

[zonetbh]

Its a suburb. Deal with it or move.

[webdoctors]

I voted no, i like the cozy feel of a town. Walking to the winter carnival, or to the local orchids to apple pick in the summer. Seeing the deer roaming the forests.

I don't want to live in a city, I'll have to lock my doors, fight with drug dealers for the right to walk on the sidewalk, shoo hookers away from my lawn. Deal with homeless ppl trying to squat in my balcony. :razz:

[Tijuana]

Only if it would somehow decrease the insurance rates due to all the bad drivers.. that's really the only reason for Markham to become a city.

[VintagePhick]

So.. what difference will it make?

LMAO, this mini exchange slayed me.

There should have been a I don't care option. That's why I came in the thread.

[philliplewis98]

No, that is how we got Ford!

Point taking :|

[sandikosh]

Point taking :|

You should thank us torontonians. If we didn't elect him, he could be running Markham!

[philliplewis98]

You should thank us torontonians. If we didn't elect him, he could be running Markham!

Ah I do not think that how it wrok :facepalm:

Plus no one know him

[philliplewis98]

LMAO, this mini exchange slayed me.

There should have been a I don't care option. That's why I came in the thread.

depend on why are you on this then? :facepalm:

[philliplewis98]

I find this one http://www.yorkregion.com/opinion/article/1354141--city-name-to-match-global-reputation


City name to match global reputation

Ward 8 Councillor Alex Chiu should be commended for wanting to authenticate Markham’s current status from a town, to that of a city.
Markham has a population of 302,000, which makes it the fourth largest community in the GTA. Only Toronto, Mississauga and Brampton are more populous, all of which legally define themselves as cities.
Our municipality has the global distinction and reputation of being at forefront of innovation. We are internationally considered Canada’s hi-tech capital.
Markham has a self-sustained economic base rich in commerce, cultural diversity, as well as commercial, corporate and industrial entities which exist within a dense urban environment.
This isn’t the first time a motion has been put forth with regards to Markham classification. Former Regional Councillor Ron Moran lobbied for city status in 1989. Unfortunately his motion was defeated.
The current motion put forward by Councillor Chiu should be implemented, given that Markham is no longer substantively a town, we have legitimately evolved into a city.

[Sprite_TM]

councillors need to stop wasting money on stupid issues. who cares whether this is a town or a city?

[Abel4Life]

There was a huge open house at Kennedy/16th. Soon that entire farmland will be more houses!

[Takami]

Yes, and they should remove the "M" to change Markham to Arkham City.

[transitguy1]

There may be hundreds of you that are scared of change and who would rather have a referendum on every decision made. However, there are TENS OF THOUSANDS of us who have been waiting for decades for this very moment in Markham's history when it will make the transition from Toronto's suburb to a prosperous CITY on it's own. Many of us who are homeowners (90% in Markham), have invested our life savings into Markham and will support any decision that will increase our property value and mitigate the risk of an overall burst in the GTA "housing bubble". There are also thousands of business owners who will fully support any decision that will increase the economic prosperity of Markham. MOST PEOPLE IN MARKHAM are happy that we have a council who realize that in today's competitive world, often indecision is worse than wrong decision. They are acting in the best economic interest of Markham and are laying the foundations for our future...and all but a few hundred of us can see that.

does that mean you will stop driving on Toronto (another city's) roads and drive only on Markham's roads to get to your job in the city of Toronto?

[philliplewis98]

councillors need to stop wasting money on stupid issues. who cares whether this is a town or a city?

It's all depend on how people feel about Markham if it should been a town or city but most people thinks that Markham is a city not a town anymore and that true.

[philliplewis98]

Yes, and they should remove the "M" to change Markham to Arkham City.

What the heck is that supposed to mean? :facepalm:

and why shuold they?

[gman]

What the heck is that supposed to mean? :facepalm:

and why shuold they?

Because Arkham City is way a lot cooler than Markham (City or town).

[philliplewis98]

Because Arkham City is way a lot cooler than Markham (City or town).

:facepalm:

[sandikosh]

Because Arkham City is way a lot cooler than Markham (City or town).

While they are at it, rename York to Gotham!

[philliplewis98]

Because Arkham City is way a lot cooler than Markham (City or town).


While they are at it, rename York to Gotham!

Man you two are hopeless :facepalm:

[gman]

While they are at it, rename York to Gotham!

York region? I wonder where the best place for the bat cave is.

[Takami]

Man you two are hopeless :facepalm:

Why so serious?

[uber_shnitz]

I'm honestly not sure how naming Markham a city is supposed to benefit its "growth". Is there any legal differentiation between a town and a city. IMO, as long as it's next to Toronto it'll be one of Toronto's satellite cities, even if it's prosperous on its own.

[philliplewis98]

I'm honestly not sure how naming Markham a city is supposed to benefit its "growth". Is there any legal differentiation between a town and a city. IMO, as long as it's next to Toronto it'll be one of Toronto's satellite cities, even if it's prosperous on its own.

It could be one of Toronto's satellite cities if it works

[uber_shnitz]

It could be one of Toronto's satellite cities if it works
The question is how will the denomination/title of the municipality change that? What can a city do that a town cannot?

Over here there is no legal differentiation between them here so I'm just wondering why it would change something unless a city is given more/different legal abilities over a town.

[whampoa]

There was a huge open house at Kennedy/16th. Soon that entire farmland will be more houses!

What you failed to mention is the starting price of $800,000 for a townhome.

Why even bother, just make it an even $1,000,000 for that matter.

[mbg]

There is no difference. The only difference is certain individuals think there is a difference. Certain individuals think with the title "Town", "I am living in rural area" instead of a city or vice versa.

+1

Oakville is still called "Town of Oakville", even though its population is larger than the "City of Burlington" next door.

[Becks]

Hey, Surrey is a city in the Greater Vancouver area. Why shouldn't Markham be a city in the GTA, LOL.

[philliplewis98]

+1

Oakville is still called "Town of Oakville", even though its population is larger than the "City of Burlington" next door.

After being stuck with it they get tired of it

[googoo]

I will say one thing, plans are already in the works for Markham to become a City!

[philliplewis98]

I will say one thing, plans are already in the works for Markham to become a City!

+1 ;)

[philliplewis98]

Ah Look on this one http://www.markham.ca/wps/wcm/connect/94fc9f804b3214079e05debdcda788a1/20120510_Mayor_BOTSpeech-v2.pdf?MOD=AJPERES&CACHEID=94fc9f804b3214079e05debdcda788a1

Check this one again :facepalm:

[philliplewis98]

Anymore discussion on this?

[philliplewis98]

Hey guys I find some info about Town change it name


We use a variety of methods by which to gain public input. Regarding the proposed change from Town of Markham to City of Markham, a public meeting is planned for the end of May. More information about the meeting will be posted here in a few days.

[Takami]

I still think Markham City needs a dark knight...

[philliplewis98]

I still think Markham City needs a dark knight...

I think you talk about Durham Region

[philliplewis98]

Bump

[philliplewis98]

Hey guys look on this http://www.yorkregion.com/opinion/letters/article/1358808--need-new-government-that-knows-how-to-plan

and this one too http://www.yorkregion.com/opinion/letters/article/1358807--town-s-contribution-to-world-a-question-mark

also this one too http://www.yorkregion.com/opinion/letters/article/1358805--switch-to-city-not-just-name-change-mr-ho

[vaportech]

Check this one again :facepalm:

why is op talking to himself?

[BornRuff]

why is op talking to himself?

Lol, I was thinking the same thing myself.

It has already been well established that this is pretty meaningless. He seems to want to have a debate about this so badly, but what is there really to discuss?

[gman]

Lol, I was thinking the same thing myself.

It has already been well established that this is pretty meaningless. He seems to want to have a debate about this so badly, but what is there really to discuss?

May be instead of one person has multiple RFD accounts. This is multiple person using one RFD account. :D:razz:

[philliplewis98]

May be instead of one person has multiple RFD accounts. This is multiple person using one RFD account. :D:razz:

:facepalm: ?

[bringbackMikeHarris]

Maybe it should become a megacity.

[philliplewis98]

Maybe it should become a megacity.

It's Toronto or Mississauga a megacity ?

[BornRuff]

It's Toronto or Mississauga a megacity ?

Yes, if you look closely, we are actually "The Megacity of Toronto".

[philliplewis98]

Yes, if you look closely, we are actually "The Megacity of Toronto".

;)

[philliplewis98]

Hey all look on this

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/487349_242030272569698_103450566427670_365666_1591 246579_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=242030272569698&set=a.128379540601439.20699.103450566427670&type=1

[45ED]

Hey all look on this

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/487349_242030272569698_103450566427670_365666_1591 246579_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=242030272569698&set=a.128379540601439.20699.103450566427670&type=1

"Markham is [one of] the most ethically diverse community in Canada."

Fixed for propriety. It is ethnically diverse, but I doubt it's the most ethnically diverse community. Maybe for it's size.

Thread is wonky.

[philliplewis98]

"Markham is [one of] the most ethically diverse community in Canada."

Fixed for propriety. It is ethnically diverse, but I doubt it's the most ethnically diverse community. Maybe for it's size.

Thread is wonky.

that what canada thinks

[BornRuff]

Hey all look on this

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/487349_242030272569698_103450566427670_365666_1591 246579_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=242030272569698&set=a.128379540601439.20699.103450566427670&type=1

This is all just meaningless self praise. "We want to change our name, also, look how awesome we are".

It makes you look like a very simple human being when you act like this actually is a major issue with any real impact.

It's a name, nothing more.

[philliplewis98]

This is all just meaningless self praise. "We want to change our name, also, look how awesome we are".

It makes you look like a very simple human being when you act like this actually is a major issue with any real impact.

It's a name, nothing more.

After being stuck with it they get tired of it

[philliplewis98]

Anymore discussion on this?

[philliplewis98]

Anymore discussion on this?

:arrow: PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING: Proposed change to "City of Markham" - Tuesday May 29th, 6 - 7 pm Markham Civic Centre.

[philliplewis98]

Hey all look on this

https://fbcdn-sphotos-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/487349_242030272569698_103450566427670_365666_1591 246579_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=242030272569698&set=a.128379540601439.20699.103450566427670&type=1

:arrow: PUBLIC INFORMATION MEETING: Proposed change to "City of Markham" - Tuesday May 29th, 6 - 7 pm Markham Civic Centre.

[BornRuff]

Seriously. Four posts in a row of the same guy talking to himself. Why isn't this locked yet?

This is making me want to somehow oppose this name change just to spite this guy for spamming the forums.

[philliplewis98]

Seriously. Four posts in a row of the same guy talking to himself. Why isn't this locked yet?

This is making me want to somehow oppose this name change just to spite this guy for spamming the forums.

:facepalm:

[philliplewis98]

Hey all update on city proposal


You can have your say about Markham’s intention to upgrade its status to city from town tomorrow at 6 p.m.
A public information meeting will be held tomorrow night at the Civic Centre for public input of a motion, first introduced by Councillor Alex Chiu in April.
July 1 was previously talked about as a potential date to adopt the city status to coincide with Canada Day celebrations.
Markham council is expected to vote on the city status immediately following the public meeting during a regular council meeting, which starts at 7 p.m.
For more information, visit markham.ca

http://www.yorkregion.com/news/article/1362829--markham-hosts-forum-on-city-proposal