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LionheartMG
May 15th, 2012, 04:24 AM
HI! :cheesygri

I need to take a large sum of money ($30,000) to Japan from my Canadian bank account. I'll be staying in Japan for a year on a working holiday visa. I wanted the best method, with the lowest fees and most importantly a good exchange rate. Using a credit card/traveler's cheques/interac PLUS on such a large amount would kill me in fees/exchange.

After a few days research, I think I may have found the best method to bring my money over. Keep in mind that it's unconfirmed, I haven't done any of this, it's just a plan I'm looking into.

- I first open an account with Shinsei bank (lots of digging around revealed them to be English friendly and their accounts have free ATM withdrawals). As far as I know you can't open an account until you're in Japan and obtain a Gaijin card (Gaijin card requires you be staying in Japan over 90 days, so a regular tourist visa will not work). So I'll withdraw a small amount of initial money from the post office ATM with my PLUS card, Just for the first day or so until I visit the bank.

- Sign up with Shinsei - Powerflex account, and now it's time to transfer the 30,000 from my bank located in Canada to my Shinsei account in one go (Or 10,000 every 4 months, we'll see). I'll have my laptop with me wherever I'm staying, so I can do this online - I'm not sure if you can do it over the phone or not.

- To do this first I will use an independent foreign exchange broker (in my case http://www.canadianforex.ca/). Xetrade no longer offers services in Japan.

- I will transfer the Forex dealer the $30,000 via EFT (no fee from either my bank or the forex dealer for this transfer).

- The forex dealer exchanges it to Yen at a great rate - nearly the same as the rate listed at xe.com

- The forex dealer then transfers the Yen to Shinsei bank with "an international wire transfer through the Swift network". I emailed the forex dealer, that was their reply, confirming it was possible.

- As far as I can tell, Shinsei charges no fees for receiving the funds (I'm emailing them to confirm): http://www.shinseibank.com/english/e_speakers/faq_ic_a4.html

- So now I have a Shinsei bank account with Yen in it.. I lost next to nothing on the exchange and there were no transfer fees*. Plus Shinsei has free ATM withdrawls.

* "As it will be sent as an international payment there may a be an intermediary fee charge which is usually approx JPY2500" - No big deal on $30,000.

So how does that sound? Am I missing anything? Please let me know if I am. :) Or if you know of a better way that I could do this.

Thanks!

EDIT: Possible hitches to the plan, which I'm looking into:
- Not sure how long it takes to get issued a Gaijin card. Might need to use alternate source of money in the meantime.
- Not sure how long all of the transfers take.

LordVan3
May 15th, 2012, 08:12 AM
30k?

You're not planning to work? That's a lot of money. I was there 1 year and half ago, I brought 1k$ with me, but I found a job already.

But anyways, the way you described is the way alot of people uses.

If i remember correctly, some of my friends opened a CITIBANK account both in US and Japan and then just transferred money from one account to another. That may be the easiest way without going through a broker, but I don't recall how he did it, I just know it's possible.

That's how I remembered him doing it.

Oh and don't expect banks to know how normal cheque works, I brought a cheque to a bank once because I had to leave Japan ASAP and they didn't even know how to transfer my money from the information on the cheque. Found out the hard way but oh well.

The Gaijin card took me about 1 month to get, if I'm not mistaken. So, you'll definitely need an alternate source or bring 10k$ if you don't have a job all ready.

LionheartMG
May 15th, 2012, 08:18 PM
I'll be working, but will be paid in $US, sent directly from the company in the US to my home in Canada. (money won't come to Japan)

I bet Citibank has a less favorable exchange rate though.

I guess I'll see what happens! I'm not leaving for a year so I have plenty of time to figure it out.

nerak
May 16th, 2012, 10:44 AM
Along that same line of thought, how about HSBC?