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Powder + park raider
May 15th, 2012, 12:35 PM
http://www.break.com/index/lamborghini-owner-does-a-bad-job-showing-off-2326892

crash at 0:50

WTF? i thought lambo have really good traction control. i saw it on top gear and clarkson was driving in on snow and he said the TC is so good, he can floor the gas pedal, and the car knows he has no traction so it would not speed up.

but in this vid, the car spun out so easily. unless the driver turned of TC...

Pete_Coach
May 15th, 2012, 12:53 PM
http://www.break.com/index/lamborghini-owner-does-a-bad-job-showing-off-2326892

crash at 0:50

WTF? i thought lambo have really good traction control. i saw it on top gear and clarkson was driving in on snow and he said the TC is so good, he can floor the gas pedal, and the car knows he has no traction so it would not speed up.

but in this vid, the car spun out so easily. unless the driver turned of TC...
Don't know much about horspower, torque and traction do you? :(

Powder + park raider
May 15th, 2012, 12:56 PM
Don't know much about horspower, torque and traction do you? :(

i do. but if you watched that episode of top gear. tv host was driving on snow covered track. in mid corner he demo'ed how good the TC is by fully depressing the gas pedal. and the car did not spin out.

either way the guy driving the lambo is a total dumbass.

mau108
May 15th, 2012, 12:57 PM
99% of the accidents are not the vehicles its the monkey behind the wheel.

mmretlol
May 15th, 2012, 12:59 PM
Power and weight are probably both a bit rear biased but still, with the computers on, hard to see how he managed that one.

Balboni car but not Balboni driver maybe.

mmretlol
May 15th, 2012, 12:59 PM
i do. but if you watched that episode of top gear. tv host was driving on snow covered track. in mid corner he demo'ed how good the TC is by fully depressing the gas pedal. and the car did not spin out.

either way the guy driving the lambo is a total dumbass.

You know lots cause you watch TG...ok.

Powder + park raider
May 15th, 2012, 01:03 PM
You know lots cause you watch TG...ok.

you sound like a tard. TG demo'ed the exact same car. that's why i was surprised this other guy spun out and crashed barely going 30kph.

mazdubb
May 15th, 2012, 01:18 PM
He didn't lose control because he floored it, he lost it because he lifted his foot off the accelerator. Weight transfered to the front and caused the rear to rotate. He would have been fine if he kept on the gas until he was through the corner. A little drift would have been all.

Ziggy007
May 15th, 2012, 01:33 PM
He didn't lose control because he floored it, he lost it because he lifted his foot off the accelerator. Weight transfered to the front and caused the rear to rotate. He would have been fine if he kept on the gas until he was through the corner. A little drift would have been all.

This.

Rookie driver isn't controlling the acceleration properly through the turn and he just spun out because of it. Probably borrowed daddy's car for a spin to show off and ended up sandwiching it.

mucat
May 15th, 2012, 01:45 PM
I thought he stepped on the gas too much and/or too early. If his front wheel is pointing straight, he could floor it and nothing bad would happen. Or if he is still in the middle of the turn, he needs to manage the throttle a lot better.

He put in too much power right at the end of the turn, the rear wheels lost traction and the car did a 180.

mazdubb
May 15th, 2012, 01:56 PM
I thought he stepped on the gas too much and/or too early. If his front wheel is pointing straight, he could floor it and nothing bad would happen. Or if he is still in the middle of the turn, he needs to manage the throttle a lot better.

He put in too much power right at the end of the turn, the rear wheels lost traction and the car did a 180.

If he kept on the gas it would have drifted to the curb side. Because he let off the throttle as soon as he got a drift started, weight transferred to the front and the front tires bit in.

One of the hardest things to learn when you start driving fast on a track is to keep on the throttle when it feels like you should lift off in a corner. It's counter-intuitive but you need to keep that weight balance on the rear end or you're not going to make it.

1337rice
May 15th, 2012, 01:57 PM
WTF? i thought lambo have really good traction control. i saw it on top gear and clarkson was driving in on snow and he said the TC is so good, he can floor the gas pedal, and the car knows he has no traction so it would not speed up.

but in this vid, the car spun out so easily. unless the driver turned of TC...
:facepalm:


i do. but if you watched that episode of top gear. tv host was driving on snow covered track. in mid corner he demo'ed how good the TC is by fully depressing the gas pedal. and the car did not spin out.

either way the guy driving the lambo is a total dumbass.
It's called EXPERIENCE :facepalm:
It's something that Clarkson/May/Hammond/Tiff have, and the douche that just crashed the Lambo don't

I've never seen Top Gear drove a Lambo in the snow before...Fifth Gear did...but that was a LP560-4 which is AWD. Please, show us Mr. Top Gear fan...

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZOIf-yxaZCk

The yellow one on the video was probably a normal Gallardo LP550-2 which is a RWD

booblehead
May 15th, 2012, 02:09 PM
Looks like the Monkey missed all his physics classes .... :D

BluePhirePB
May 15th, 2012, 02:14 PM
I love this ignorant comment on break.com


jeffek80 - an hour ago

next time buy american !!

Kunman
May 15th, 2012, 02:14 PM
watch top gear for JOKES! You dont watch top gear to learn anything about cars!! THe three guys are entertainers, they are not educator....if you want to learn more about cars check out howstuffworks.com for automobiles....

And also, posters, ever considered that you can turn the traction control OFF? that is what the lambo driver did....

and plus its very diffcult to correct a 4wd car like a lambo....turn the steering wheel left, push the gas peddle, the car goes over the limit and starts to slide. But when you try to corrected you will over do it, and it snaps and slides the other way :/

in a 4wd car, I think taking you foot off the gas pedal + conter correction would have the car back in control.

thrifthunter
May 15th, 2012, 02:39 PM
I love how everybody is a race car driving pro on here, my kinda people! Sweet.

knapper
May 15th, 2012, 02:48 PM
Who says the idiot didn't turn of the TC (assuming you can)?

mucat
May 15th, 2012, 03:17 PM
If he kept on the gas it would have drifted to the curb side. Because he let off the throttle as soon as he got a drift started, weight transferred to the front and the front tires bit in.

One of the hardest things to learn when you start driving fast on a track is to keep on the throttle when it feels like you should lift off in a corner. It's counter-intuitive but you need to keep that weight balance on the rear end or you're not going to make it.

I don't know. You can hear the driver start to put more power down at the 2nd half of the turn at the beginning of 52 sec mark. When putting lot of power to the rear wheels (rear biased I assume), the driver need to adjust the front wheels (and put the power down the opposite way) to compensate for the increased turn rate. But it is easier said then done, once you are in a spin on a narrow public road, luck takes over.

mazdubb
May 15th, 2012, 03:54 PM
I don't know. You can hear the driver start to put more power down at the 2nd half of the turn at the beginning of 52 sec mark. When putting lot of power to the rear wheels (rear biased I assume), the driver need to adjust the front wheels (and put the power down the opposite way) to compensate for the increased turn rate. But it is easier said then done, once you are in a spin on a narrow public road, luck takes over.

Those Lambo's start making their peak power at 7-8k rpm. He was probably just getting into the power band and it scared him when the rear started to step out. If he stayed on the throttle he wouldn't have ended up where he did.

DJ_Peanuts22
May 15th, 2012, 04:03 PM
The comment about racing experience through watching a lot of Top Gear made me chuckle.

I bet Jeremy, Richard and James have had more professional race car training than this entire forum combined.

devil2k
May 15th, 2012, 04:20 PM
Traction control is not the same as stability control (VDC, VSC, ESC, whatever you call it). Depending on the driving mode of the car, these controls have different tolerance levels.

Since most of us haven't driven an exotic car, we probably shouldn't be calling those who crashed one idiots. These super cars might be easy to drive on race tracks with all these controls turned on, they might be harder to control in city with these controls turned off.

We took a Mustang Boss edition out for a test drive. Even with traction control on the car was extremely tail happy.

mucat
May 15th, 2012, 04:45 PM
Traction control is not the same as stability control (VDC, VSC, ESC, whatever you call it). Depending on the driving mode of the car, these controls have different tolerance levels.

Since most of us haven't driven an exotic car, we probably shouldn't be calling those who crashed one idiots. These super cars might be easy to drive on race tracks with all these controls turned on, they might be harder to control in city with these controls turned off.

We took a Mustang Boss edition out for a test drive. Even with traction control on the car was extremely tail happy.

Exactly, those high power cars have excessive amount of power, just a light step on the gas pedal will induce spin or all the TCS, VSC lights will come off.

S14_Raven
May 15th, 2012, 08:41 PM
watch top gear for JOKES! You dont watch top gear to learn anything about cars!! THe three guys are entertainers, they are not educator....if you want to learn more about cars check out howstuffworks.com for automobiles....

So ludicrous I don't even wanna comment...



And also, posters, ever considered that you can turn the traction control OFF? that is what the lambo driver did....

and plus its very diffcult to correct a 4wd car like a lambo....turn the steering wheel left, push the gas peddle, the car goes over the limit and starts to slide. But when you try to corrected you will over do it, and it snaps and slides the other way :/

in a 4wd car, I think taking you foot off the gas pedal + conter correction would have the car back in control.

Spoken like a true armchair racer... You logic is correct, but only for a RWD. If you're caught in a drift in a 4WD, the moment you lift, is the moment the car loses control. The best thing you can do, is keep on the throttle and point, let the AWD do it's thing.