G20 commanders committed misconduct, provincial police watchdog concludes

[zz000ter]

Toronto Star (http://www.thestar.com/news/torontog20summit/article/1180052)

CBC (http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/story/2012/05/16/g20-policing-report.html)

CTV (http://toronto.ctv.ca/servlet/an/local/CTVNews/20120516/ontario-watchdog-g20-report-120516/20120516/)

MetroNews (http://metronews.ca/news/toronto/227880/chief-blair-reacts-to-scathing-watchdog-report-on-g20-police-conduct/)


So a watchdog tells it like it is - the cops went too far in the zeal to protect G20.
More evidence that we are becoming more like the American Police State
where civil liberties are being destroyed in the name of "security"

[flashy_mcflash]

In before the usual wingnuts with their 'if you didn't want to get arrested you shouldn't have come downtown' garbage.

Let's see what happens to these folks in light of this report. My guess is not much.

[NorthYorker]

Let's see what happens to these folks in light of this report.Most likely, nothing more than "very stern talking to", i.e. nothing. Law enforcement in Anglophone Canada has no experience with handling truly massive protests, so G20 policing was not a screw up. It was normal reaction of the system.

[drdrma]

Most likely, nothing more than "very stern talking to", i.e. nothing. Law enforcement in Anglophone Canada has no experience with handling truly massive protests, so G20 policing was not a screw up. It was normal reaction of the system.

I never expected apologists to rationalize this on linguistic terms.

[Xeros]

Getting "charged" and being "proven guilty" are two TOTALLY DIFFERENT things.

If this isn't trumped up for show, I'd like to see what the fallout on it is.

[zz000ter]

Getting "charged" and being "proven guilty" are two TOTALLY DIFFERENT things.

So you have no problems people getting charged willy nilly?
Do you know how much it costs to get charged - even if innocent and not convicted?

You are OK with people being beaten - willy nilly?

[king_george]

So you have no problems people getting charged willy nilly?
Do you know how much it costs to get charged - even if innocent and not convicted?

You are OK with people being beaten - willy nilly?

Are you ok when people, even cops are proclaimed guilty without a day in court?

Being charged and being found guilty are as said, two different issues. Nobody is guilty before they have had their day in court.

That being said, I hope the incompetent morons who ran the show get taken down hard. Including the idiot Blair.

[masterhapposai]

Are you ok when people, even cops are proclaimed guilty without a day in court?

Being charged and being found guilty are as said, two different issues. Nobody is guilty before they have had their day in court.

That being said, I hope the incompetent morons who ran the show get taken down hard. Including the idiot Blair.

Unlikely without a the general population arming themselves and taking restitution into their own hands.

I really don't understand why its ok for Police to violently assault innocent people (especially see the student protests in Quebec right now).

They wave their sticks with intent to harm, break arms/legs, and cause permanent damage. Why can't protesters be armed as well? At least with shields and sticks. If the Cops aren't ever going to see a day in jail, while they are putting innocent people in makeshift torture pits during protests after seriously harming them, its only fair if the protesters were allowed to defend themselves.

[king_george]

Unlikely without a the general population arming themselves and taking restitution into their own hands.

I really don't understand why its ok for Police to violently assault innocent people (especially see the student protests in Quebec right now).

They wave their sticks with intent to harm, break arms/legs, and cause permanent damage. Why can't protesters be armed as well? At least with shields and sticks. If the Cops aren't ever going to see a day in jail, while they are putting innocent people in makeshift torture pits during protests after seriously harming them, its only fair if the protesters were allowed to defend themselves.

It isn't ok with me but I'll let the justice system run it's course as with every case where someone has been charged. They are being tried twice, once in civil court and again in the internal disciplinary actions. Both will be public and available for anyone to read about. Those who arranged the facilities and issued the orders should be taken down and fired IMO. The court of public opinion judgement will not be in their favour I'll wager.

I'd prefer to not have open warfare on the streets. Escalation will only result in greater injuries and even deaths if everyone shows up armed and ready.

You're making the mistake of assuming all the police at G20 were involved. The miscreants were only a small portion, sort of like the Black Bloc morons were only a small part of the protest but got an inordinate amount of publicity thanks to the media glamourizing them.

Oh and the students in Quebec started the violence and vandalism and deserve what they get. But that's another thread.

[sandikosh]

Like I said before, criminals have more rights!

[king_george]

Like I said before, criminals have more rights!

Nobody is a criminal before being convicted. Not even the G20 idiots.

I see Blair is throwing his underlings under the bus. Who did this incompetent, honourless moron have to blow to get his job?

[manmanny]

Nobody is a criminal before being convicted. Not even the G20 idiots.

I see Blair is throwing his underlings under the bus. Who did this incompetent, honourless moron have to blow to get his job?

Easy there KG.

Nothing is going to happen to Blair or these cops. Blair is just washing hands off.

[gizmo8]

1 fricking billion dollars for this useless event and Ontario is still paying for it.The amount of court fees,lawyer fees is surpassing $55 million I heard considering all the lawsuits waiting to happen.

[king_george]

Easy there KG.

Nothing is going to happen to Blair or these cops. Blair is just washing hands off.

I think you're wrong. Someone somewhere will be the sacrificial lamb and the dolts who ordered this mess will get off with no stains on their records.

Blair is the worst police chief in memory for me. The guy couldn't organize a circle jerk at a ******house without screwing it up. :lol: