Snakehead caught in B.C. lagoon

[bullionaire]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/snakehead-caught-in-bc-lagoon/article4244344/


Ministry officials – who feared the dangerous predator would attack Central Park lagoon’s native species – tried several different methods to catch the snakehead, including electricity.

They finally succeeded Friday, using an old-fashioned net. The snakehead – about two-thirds of a metre in length – was caught and killed.

“Obviously, these fish are at risk of wiping out other species in B.C., so we want to find out as much information as possible,” Environment Minister Terry Lake said after the capture.

B.C. is the only jurisdiction in North America that allows the import of northern snakeheads. Mr. Lake said last month that the province could add the fish to its list of banned exotic animals. The northern snakehead is native to Asia and Africa.

I don't get it. If they are at risk of wiping out native species in BC, why did BC allow them to be imported in the first place? They ban some fruits and vegetables from crossing the border, but let live snakeheads in???? This is moronic.


The snakehead was caught on video in the Burnaby lagoon in mid-May. Efforts to catch the fish were especially urgent because it can reproduce quickly and could have spread to the Fraser River and threatened salmon stocks.

What makes them think this is the only snakehead in the area? Whoever this idiot was, I doubt he's the only one who dropped it in there.


Officials have said the snakehead could have been dropped into the Burnaby lagoon by someone who no longer wanted it as a pet.

:facepalm: Couldn't he just sell it to a Chinese fish market?

[epik89]

http://www.theglobeandmail.com/news/british-columbia/snakehead-caught-in-bc-lagoon/article4244344/



:facepalm: Couldn't he just sell it to a Chinese fish market?

racist is racist

[stuntman]

racist is racist

Not racist. Snakehead is considered a delicacy in China and Thailand and it is known that at least in Toronto a lot of places in the Chinatown have health code issues already.

What kills me is that it took them a month to capture it. I would have expected a bounty to be put out on it....it would have taken less than a week to catch it that way.

[Nook]

Snakehead eh?

Are you referring to the Goa'uld?

[sandikosh]

Not racist. Snakehead is considered a delicacy in China and Thailand and it is known that at least in Toronto a lot of places in the Chinatown have health code issues already.

What kills me is that it took them a month to capture it. I would have expected a bounty to be put out on it....it would have taken less than a week to catch it that way.

It is racist. It would be better if you said asian!

[hdave]

Oh wow that sucks
Those things are so gross and they are really bad, they take over and demolish the river.

Anyone else learn about them on river monster??

awesome show and great episode, i highly recommend you guys watch it

[stuntman]

It is racist. It would be better if you said asian!

It would be better if I said Asian? Like in Asiantown? (Asiantown sounds pretty racist to me, besides I never heard of Asiantown. Little Korea or Little India sure but not Asiantown.

??? Why would the other guy say Asian? Maybe he did not know it was a delicacy in Thailand. The news reports it as a delicacy in China.....I did not hear Thailand.

As far as I know there is no Thaitown (so it is not popular or does not exist), only Chinatown.
Guess where people buy Chinese fish delicacies?: A Chinese fish market (duh?)

so pipe down please.

[HandsomeRob]

Not racist. Snakehead is considered a delicacy in China and Thailand and it is known that at least in Toronto a lot of places in the Chinatown have health code issues already.

What kills me is that it took them a month to capture it. I would have expected a bounty to be put out on it....it would have taken less than a week to catch it that way.

What kills me is that there is no import/sales ban on them.

We'd rather ban Shark Fins & Plastic Bags. This thing could potentially eradicate entire species of local salmon.

[stuntman]

What kills me is that there is no import/sales ban on them.

We'd rather ban Shark Fins & Plastic Bags. This thing could potentially eradicate entire species of local salmon.

When considering the dumber thing....yes banning shark fin soup and not banning the importation of Snakeheads is super stupid. The things can also be purchased as pets, while pit bulls banned I guess we need a few lakes to be infested before they are banned.

[BornRuff]

Not racist. Snakehead is considered a delicacy in China and Thailand and it is known that at least in Toronto a lot of places in the Chinatown have health code issues already.

What kills me is that it took them a month to capture it. I would have expected a bounty to be put out on it....it would have taken less than a week to catch it that way.

Letting a bunch of fish bounty hunters loose on the area could easily cause more damage than the fish themselves. They need to capture the fish in a responsible way.

[stuntman]

Letting a bunch of fish bounty hunters loose on the area could easily cause more damage than the fish themselves. They need to capture the fish in a responsible way.

I declare you are talking out of your butt so please justify your bold statement:

Please explain how a bounty would cause more damage than the Snakehead establishing a population in that lake/pond and then likely the Fraser river and other BC lakes(think salmon run).

[BornRuff]

I declare you are talking out of your butt so please justify your bold statement:

Please explain how a bounty would cause more damage than the Snakehead establishing a population in that lake/pond and then likely the Fraser river and other BC lakes(think salmon run).

Its a public park. Hunters going after a bounty have very different motivations than conservation officials, and would probably kill tons of other creatures and disturb a lot of the local environment in the search for this guy.

Catching the fish in a controlled and responsible way is obviously ideal.

[stuntman]

Its a public park. Hunters going after a bounty have very different motivations than conservation officials, and would probably kill tons of other creatures.


LOL. It would be fishermen, not hunters. I seem to think you have visions of rifles, machine guns, shotguns, bear traps, and Napalm in your head.



Catching the fish in a controlled and responsible way is obviously ideal.
^^^back peddling on BS statement.

[BornRuff]

LOL. It would be fishermen, not hunters. I seem to think you have visions of rifles, machine guns, shotguns, bear traps, and Napalm in your head.



^^^back peddling on BS statement.

Haha, how is saying the same thing I said in the first post back peddling? Redundant maybe?

Tracking down a single fish is not exactly easy. It is a lot easier to catch pretty much everything and sort it out later. People have poisoned entire bodies of water in the past to try to get these things.

[stuntman]

I repeated you? Where? You full of it.....are you talking about you fish hunter statement? I am pretty sure fish hunters are called fishermen now a days. Fishermen would be offered the bounty, not guys with dynamite, electric zappers and bear traps.


Haha, how is saying the same thing I said in the first post back peddling? Redundant maybe?
Tracking down a single fish is not exactly easy. It is a lot easier to catch pretty much everything and sort it out later.

Wrong. Tracking down this particular fish was easy. The locals knew where it hung out and it is a small body of water. If you knew anything about fishing and read the articles on this item you would know that the fish would have little chance of being in that water more than a few days.
People knew where the fish hung out and it is already known what techniques are good at catching these fish. Check out youtube, some random guy almost caught it on a goof.

Dragging a net on week one would have been good but they did not do that. They waited a month! A bounty on week one would have seen this fish out of the water fast.


People have poisoned entire bodies of water in the past to try to get these things.

You are full of BS on this too or are very misinformed. Whole bodies of water have been poisoned in order to catch not one single fish but a breeding population of the fish. Bounties on breeding populations don't work (think Australian bunnies) This incident was for one fish.



and yeah...you did back peddle AND don't forget your original statement: a bunch of fishermen trying to catch it would do more damage than snakeheads (plural) themselves. Yeah....who is going to agree with you on that....if they would likely agree to ban sport fishing altogether.

[aplayaz2000]

It would be better if I said Asian? Like in Asiantown? (Asiantown sounds pretty racist to me, besides I never heard of Asiantown. Little Korea or Little India sure but not Asiantown.

??? Why would the other guy say Asian? Maybe he did not know it was a delicacy in Thailand. The news reports it as a delicacy in China.....I did not hear Thailand.

As far as I know there is no Thaitown (so it is not popular or does not exist), only Chinatown.
Guess where people buy Chinese fish delicacies?: A Chinese fish market (duh?)

so pipe down please.correct

asiantown would be racist, you associate things usually by country
to group everything together is racist

such as all brown people are associated with terrorism

[BornRuff]

I repeated you? Where? You full of it.....are you talking about you fish hunter statement? I am pretty sure fish hunters are called fishermen now a days. Fishermen would be offered the bounty, not guys with dynamite, electric zappers and bear traps.



Wrong. Tracking down this particular fish was easy. The locals knew where it hung out and it is a small body of water. If you knew anything about fishing and read the articles on this item you would know that the fish would have little chance of being in that water more than a few days.
People knew where the fish hung out and it is already known what techniques are good at catching these fish. Check out youtube, some random guy almost caught it on a goof.

Dragging a net on week one would have been good but they did not do that. They waited a month! A bounty on week one would have seen this fish out of the water fast.



You are full of BS on this too or are very misinformed. Whole bodies of water have been poisoned in order to catch not one single fish but a breeding population of the fish. Bounties on breeding populations don't work (think Australian bunnies) This incident was for one fish.



and yeah...you did back peddle AND don't forget your original statement: a bunch of fishermen trying to catch it would do more damage than snakeheads (plural) themselves. Yeah....who is going to agree with you on that....if they would likely agree to ban sport fishing altogether.

Could and would are very different words.

Both posts said it should be caught responsibly, how is that back peddling?

It appears from youtube that people were trying to catch the thing without any bounty being offered, and clearly they were not successful. Getting a hit on a lure isn't all that close to landing a fish.

[stuntman]

If you say you were not back peddling fine, difference of opinion.
On just about everything else you are wrong. You referring to the people acting on the bounty as fish hunters shows how little you know about catching fish and what the government would allow. When it comes to fishing bounties are offered to those catching fish while still abiding fishing regulations.


Could and would are very different words.
Could and would? What the are you referring to. You may as well have said rock and water are 2 different things.



It appears from youtube that people were trying to catch the thing without any bounty being offered, and clearly they were not successful. Getting a hit on a lure isn't all that close to landing a fish.
The one I saw was a guy goofing around. He did not catch it, big surprise.:rolleyes: that is why I called it a goof.
Put 6 guys who know how to fish on that tiny pond and it does not stand a chance. But it sounds like you know nothing about fishing at all so it does not surprise me that you don't know that.



Letting a bunch of fish bounty hunters loose on the area could easily cause more damage than the fish themselves.

This is your original statement. It is funny because it is absurd. LOL

AND a bounty is a responsible way to catch a fish.....they could have offered it to any of the local bass fishing clubs or to any number of people (yes, there are bass in BC). Sitting a convervation officer on the pond if required was also an option. Waiting a month before dragging a net was a lengthy delay.

[BornRuff]

If you say you were not back peddling fine, difference of opinion.
On just about everything else you are wrong. You referring to the people acting on the bounty as fish hunters shows how little you know about catching fish and what the government would allow. When it comes to fishing bounties are offered to those catching fish while still abiding fishing regulations.

Could and would? What the are you referring to. You may as well have said rock and water are 2 different things.


The one I saw was a guy goofing around. He did not catch it, big surprise.:rolleyes: that is why I called it a goof.
Put 6 guys who know how to fish on that tiny pond and it does not stand a chance. But it sounds like you know nothing about fishing at all so it does not surprise me that you don't know that.




This is your original statement. It is funny because it is absurd. LOL

AND a bounty is a responsible way to catch a fish.....they could have offered it to any of the local bass fishing clubs or to any number of people (yes, there are bass in BC). Sitting a convervation officer on the pond if required was also an option. Waiting a month before dragging a net was a lengthy delay.

Why do you really care about semantics that much? They are going after a bounty so I choose to call them bounty hunters. You can call them whatever you want, it doesn't really change who they are and what they are there to do.

I do fish, so I know how often wildlife regulations are not exactly followed to the letter. You create a situation where a bunch of people are competing against each other to catch one single fish, and the odds of people taking short cuts rises quite a bit.

[stuntman]

Letting a bunch of fish bounty hunters loose on the area could easily cause more damage than the fish themselves. They need to capture the fish in a responsible way.


Why do you really care about semantics that much? They are going after a bounty so I choose to call them bounty hunters. You can call them whatever you want, it doesn't really change who they are and what they are there to do. because it shows that you know little about fishing.



I do fish, so I know how often wildlife regulations are not exactly followed to the letter. You create a situation where a bunch of people are competing against each other to catch one single fish, and the odds of people taking short cuts rises quite a bit.

I doubt you know much about fishing (see above)
You have seen too many movies with yahoos going out to lakes with dynamite and other gadgets so they can get an elusive monster.

The pond looks to be about an acre in size and offering the bounty to a limited number of fishermen would keep the crowd down. Not too hard to keep things under control.

I will repeat it again.
The guys trying to catch the fish doing more damage than an established population of Snakehead :lol: You so funny.

[162]

do fish, so I know how often wildlife regulations are not exactly followed to the letter.
Newsflash. Fish just happen not to be wildlife. Lol!

[BornRuff]

because it shows that you know little about fishing.



I doubt you know much about fishing (see above)
You have seen too many movies with yahoos going out to lakes with dynamite and other gadgets so they can get an elusive monster.

The pond looks to be about an acre in size and offering the bounty to a limited number of fishermen would keep the crowd down. Not too hard to keep things under control.

I will repeat it again.
The guys trying to catch the fish doing more damage than an established population of Snakehead :lol: You so funny.

lol, nobody other than you suggested they would use dynamite.

[stuntman]

Newsflash. Fish just happen not to be wildlife. Lol!
:D
reading your post produced a wave of pleasure in my brain. BSing exposed. Oh soooo good. drool.

[stuntman]

lol, nobody other than you suggested they would use dynamite.

Wrong. I never suggested that they would. I suggested that you might have thoughts of people doing crazy things like using dynamite to capture the fish.

A few examples (by me and another) have already been given that show you know little about fishing or their habitat. You have the terminology all wrong and that is what go you caught. You tried to BS but did not get away with it. You are faking and so your opinion is of little value.

Besides that you so funny: people fishing for a bounty causing more harm than snakeheads becoming established. :lol:

[BornRuff]

Wrong. I never suggested that they would. I suggested that you might have thoughts of people doing crazy things like using dynamite to capture the fish.

A few examples (by me and another) have already been given that show you know little about fishing or their habitat. You have the terminology all wrong and that is what go you caught. You tried to BS but did not get away with it. You are faking and so your opinion is of little value.

Besides that you so funny: people fishing for a bounty causing more harm than snakeheads becoming established. :lol:

Lol, just because I said the word wildlife? Why don't you focus on the actual content of my posts a bit more than semantics.

[stuntman]

Lol, just because I said the word wildlife? Why don't you focus on the actual content of my posts a bit more than semantics.

That and a few other terms and ideas. If you were genuine you would NEVER have typed those things. A fisherman can spot another fisherman, I being a fisherman spot a fake.
You trying to fool me and others is like an average fake cop trying to fool a real cop, not a good idea because you are going to get caught.

You have been discredited and not only that: 'people fishing for a bounty causing more harm than snakeheads becoming established': you so funny :lol:


No use discussing anything further with you on this item.

[BornRuff]

That and a few other terms and ideas. If you were genuine you would NEVER have typed those things. A fisherman can spot another fisherman, I being a fisherman spot a fake.
You trying to fool me and others is like an average fake cop trying to fool a real cop, not a good idea because you are going to get caught.

You have been discredited and not only that: 'people fishing for a bounty causing more harm than snakeheads becoming established': you so funny :lol:


No use discussing anything further with you on this item.

Haha, why are you so determined to turn this into a pissing contest? If your idea of a fisherman is someone who catches fish for sport/food, then I would be a fisherman I guess.

Why would I try to "fool" anyone? I gave my opinion, you disagree, great for you.

You know that quotation marks generally mean you are directly quoting someone right?

[stuntman]

You know that quotation marks generally mean you are directly quoting someone right?

My bad I do that when paraphrasing.....old and bad habit.

I am not trying to turn this into a pissing contest and I don't know why you are faking it. A lot of people on the internet are BSers, you just happen to be one of those people. Only you know why you continue to pretend to be something you are not and continue to spout BS.

1) You did not even make a decent effort to bother justifying that OP I was repeatedly paraphrasing with any type of effort (because you can't). Do you know what an invasive species like the snakehead would do? They are bad ***** compared to everything else we have in Canada.

2) You are falsely presenting yourself as someone in the know, when clearly you are not. Your use of terminology and phrases gave you away.

3) Going fishing once in a while does not make you a fisherman. Your use of terms and wording shows clearly that you are faking it.

Plain and simple you are faking. I know it and so does any other fisherman (and many others) reading this thread. Fake much? Ta ta.