Hyundai Veloster Turbo

[jdmkidd]

Anybody know for sure that they are getting this car, If so why? I did a couple hours of research last night and this car seemed to have slipped my radar from reading preliminary reviews it seems to be very solid FWD vehicle which has some kick and good on gas also the price released yesterday is pretty good.

I was driving an RSX Premium in 06 and upgraded to a Type-S few years back it seems this car can replace my Type-S. I was really set on the Scion FRS to purchase next month it was down to the FRS and a VW GTI till 2 days ago when I started reading about this car, now I'm almost fully sold! Just wondering if anyone in the community has their set reasons as well. ;)

The RSX is completely fine well maintained and tuned. I guess I just want something with an improved interior from the snore fest 3 knobs that the Acura has.

[coriolis]

Been following this for a while. Pricing has come out on yesterday too. I love hot hatches, and am glad cars like the Abarth 500, Focus ST and the Veloster Turbo is coming out here in North America. More choices besides the Mini Cooper S, MazdaSpeed3 and GTI is a good thing.

Pros:
Unique looking
Good fuel economy (30/35 MPG estimated), uses regular gas
201 hp, 195 lb/ft TQ, 1.6L Turbo
28xx lbs
Fully loaded (7" LCD, leather seats, Navi, 450watt sound system + amp)
It's a hatch, you can store a lot of stuff.

Cons:
Starts at $26k, + fees/taxes is $30k+
You're buying a $30k Hyundai hatchback
Unknown driving feel/experience
Rear visibility is below average
Limited to 4 passengers, larger passengers (over 5'8", LGs fit fine) may have a hard time in the rear

Colours avaliable:

Century White
Ultra Black
Boston Red
Vitamin C
Marathon Blue
Light Grey Pearl** (Canadian only option)
Matte Grey** ($1000 option)


The media embargo 'date' is next week, so we'll see media reviews and opinions on the car. It'll be interesting to see how they feel towards the possible lack of steering feel and handling, two of the biggest knocks against the Veloster Turbo, especially compared to the more refined and well reviewed GTI.

Personally, I like the car, and was hoping it'd be under $30k after taxes, but its over $30k, which opens a whole new can of worms.


Edit: I sat and looked around at a VT when it was brought to a KDM meet at NextMod a few weeks back, I took some pics: http://www.flickr.com/photos/aricwu/sets/72157629816476606/


Edit2: As for the difference between the regular Veloster and the Turbo, the latter's 1.6L engine gets a twin scroll turbo and intercooler, different front and rear bumpers, LED 'angel eyes + strip' projector headlights(uses halogens still though), LED tail lights, a larger body coloured spoiler, ground 'effects' kit, different 18" rims, two toned leather interior, 'improved' driving/steering feel ( whatever that means, mechanically it hasn't been changed).

[zyphere]

It's got a pretty polarizing style, you either love it or hate it.

The car likely will not handle as well as its competitors. Regular Veloster owners have sometimes complained that their ride is a bit harsh -- it may be even rougher with the Turbo's 18" wheels. It looks like it will be a decent, affordable, zippy car that is good on gas. The GTI and Focus ST will be more of a driver's car and will satisfy the enthusiast much more, I'd imagine.

I'm keeping my eye on it. Might be in the market for a new car in September and I'll consider it. It's a bit pricier than I'd hoped.

[chickenbones]

Anybody know for sure that they are getting this car, If so why? I did a couple hours of research last night and this car seemed to have slipped my radar from reading preliminary reviews it seems to be very solid FWD vehicle which has some kick and good on gas also the price released yesterday is pretty good.

I was driving an RSX Premium in 06 and upgraded to a Type-S few years back it seems this car can replace my Type-S. I was really set on the Scion FRS to purchase next month it was down to the FRS and a VW GTI till 2 days ago when I started reading about this car, now I'm almost fully sold! Just wondering if anyone in the community has their set reasons as well. ;)

The RSX is completely fine well maintained and tuned. I guess I just want something with an improved interior from the snore fest 3 knobs that the Acura has.

It's much smaller than the GTI in terms of size. Engine is a 1.6 turbo vs. 2.0 turbo. Sure it puts out 201 hp, but this can only mean more turbo lag compared to the GTI. the VW 2.0T is a proven workhorse, the 1.6T hyundai? Not so much.

All this for a price difference of maybe 3 grand? I would take the GTI.

[coriolis]

Oops, forgot to actually list the prices:


6MT: $25,999
6AT: $27,249

Matte Grey Paint: $1000

Delivery: $1495


I'm sure you guys can do the mathematics :D

[jdmkidd]

Yea 30k for a Hyundai Hatch is a big con for me as well. The GTI I was almost set on it as well but read a thread on here about electrical being FUBAR.

The other competing vehicle in my list was a used Acura CSX Type-S for a good price and a 2008 Accord Coupe EXL's something like this http://www.autotrader.ca/a/Honda/Accord/TORONTO/Ontario/5_12561433_ON20080123125931461/?ursrc=pl this particular example has pretty high KM's though.

[gilboman]

stupid pricing for a econobox that was a turd to drive in original trim, add a turbo to it and it's got more power but nothing else.

Don't see how it can compete with a Civic SI, ms3, or the new FR-S/BRZ

[chickenbones]

In comparison the Genesis coupe starts at just $500 more for the base model. Granted some toys are probably missing. The Veloster is basically for people who like gadgets and doesn't care much about driving. It's a hyundai accent with turbo and 18s.

[coriolis]

In comparison the Genesis coupe starts at just $500 more for the base model. Granted some toys are probably missing. The Veloster is basically for people who like gadgets and doesn't care much about driving. It's a hyundai accent with turbo and 18s.

Yeap, the base GenCoupe is only a bit more, it's disappointing that there isn't a base Veloster Turbo, without items like the sunroof, navigation, rear camera, etc. for a few thousand less, $23,499 is a nicer price.

[chickenbones]

Yeap, the base GenCoupe is only a bit more, it's disappointing that there isn't a base Veloster Turbo, without items like the sunroof, navigation, rear camera, etc. for a few thousand less, $23,499 is a nicer price.

My guess is that Hyundai is trying to get some margins from the toys. The rear camera probably cost them $10, 7 inch screen $35, navigation $50, sunroof $500 etc. Much better margins than the car.

[jdmkidd]

In comparison the Genesis coupe starts at just $500 more for the base model. Granted some toys are probably missing. The Veloster is basically for people who like gadgets and doesn't care much about driving. It's a hyundai accent with turbo and 18s.

Hmm I'm pretty big on the driving feel good to see these answers are shedding some light into my decision which is up in the air again. I know some of you know what it means to "master your car" like knowing the exact feel when you release the gas while in gear for a few seconds and before stepping on it again know the exact easing to press to avoid the "nudge" due to RPM change when accelerating again ;)

Anyways I'm bound to make a decision in the coming weeks. The FRS would be really really nice except it's RWD I can honestly say I have no experience driving RWD in winter.

[Rainne]

^ Driving RWD in the winter is easyy (with snow tires)

Also, the Veloster looks awesome.

[DJ_Peanuts22]

The Veloster is a very good handling car. If you get the turbo then you will make the base Veloster owners green with envy. :lol:

It's price competitively relative to cars like the 500 Abarth.

[gilboman]

The Veloster is a very good handling car. If you get the turbo then you will make the base Veloster owners green with envy. :lol:

It's price competitively relative to cars like the 500 Abarth.

very good handling compared to what? a toyota corolla? lol

[coriolis]

The Veloster is a very good handling car. If you get the turbo then you will make the base Veloster owners green with envy. :lol:

It's price competitively relative to cars like the 500 Abarth.

Very squirrely indeed, due to its weight. Though it does feel a bit awkward cause of the faux steering feel, which I didn't like. The MY2013 Velosters (including the Turbo) will have a different front steering knuckle, to improve steering feel. The measly 138hp didn't help, so the Turbo is good news. Though the Focus ST appears to be getting rave reviews everywhere, which is a good and bad thing, considering the Veloster Turbo will start selling within the next month, and the ST later in the year; yet there still is no review on the Veloster Turbo by any media outlet. I guess the week of June 18th is when we'll see...

Will definitely take it for a test drive when it comes out, but I'm still not sold. If it was a penny south of $29k taxes in, I'd be all over it, but over $30k is a bit on the steep side.

[gilboman]

Where are people getting the Veloster is "fun" to drive from? It felt like an accent but in different packaging.

When the usual first drive love ins to entice advertising dollars from car mags read like this
http://www.caranddriver.com/reviews/2012-hyundai-veloster-first-drive-review

But it’s not door count or horsepower or weight that disqualifies the Veloster from second-coming-of-CRX status. It’s that the Veloster just isn’t that much fun to drive. It feels heavier than its roughly 2700-pound curb weight suggests. And its feel-free steering, although accurate, brings no joy. The steering happens to have the least amount of self-centering that we’ve felt in some time. After a turn, the wheel is apparently content to lie on its side, lifeless, instead of preparing for its next assignment.

That’s a shame, because the chassis it commands is competent. Maybe not spritely, but at least the MacPherson-strut-front and torsion-beam-rear suspension does an admirable job of snubbing roll without beating the driver senseless. The Veloster circled our skidpad at a mediocre 0.82 g. The Scion tC, which Hyundai lists as a Veloster competitor, returns 0.86 g of grip. It’s a nice middle-ground tuning that should satisfy those looking for an economy car wearing a snazzy outfit.

[jdmkidd]

I watched the video this guy pretty much sums up some of the comments posted here so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNaVkifn3p0

[coriolis]

I watched the video this guy pretty much sums up some of the comments posted here so far.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WNaVkifn3p0

Yeah, that video was one of the first that came out, though the one reviewed is apparently a pre-production unit, though I'm sure Hyundai has a lot of improvement in store within the next few years.

Motor Trend is actually driving one right now, according to a Tweet:


Michael Floyd ‏@MT_Floyd @TheCarGuy4All stay tuned on June 27, when Hyundai takes the muzzle off of me

[sandikosh]

If I am 50 today, I would buy this car in a heartbeat. What better car to relive your youthful days!

[coriolis]

If I am 50 today, I would buy this car in a heartbeat. What better car to relive your youthful days!

Funny you point that out, the demographics is exactly like you said.



Under 21 12 3.52%
21-25 64 18.77%
26-30 55 16.13%
31-35 48 14.08%
Older than 36 162 47.51%


http://www.veloster.org/forum/5-new-member-introductions/1152-official-demographics-thread.html

[chickenbones]

If I am 50 today, I would buy this car in a heartbeat. What better car to relive your youthful days!

I hope by the time I'm 50 I can afford something much better than an econobox meant for poor students / new grads.

[Repooc]

I've been following the launch of the Veloster Turbo for about a year now... and had every intention to be the first in line to buy one up until a month ago. Oddly enough, on my way to buy my GTI this past Saturday, I saw my first Veloster Turbo in real life on the road while driving along Hwy 7 through Markham. At first I thought it was Matte Grey from afar, but then I drove beside it and it turned out to be that other grey colour (the name eludes me right now), the Canadian-exclusive one. I must say, that colour looks like crap in person... its like a dull muddy colour. I chalked it up to be a press vehicle because it was debadged, but had all the other Veloster Turbo goodies.

I had every intention of getting the Matte Grey, but at a $1,000 premium... no thanks. I saw a Korean Top Gear vid a couple weeks ago and Cooper S still smoked the Veloster Turbo off the line. Why Hyundai would release a "hot hatch" that can't keep up with the Coopers S', GTI's, etc of this world is beyond me.

Oh well, I'm sure a few bad press reviews after launch will make Hyundai smarten up with the next iteration.

Picking up my GTI on Thursday, and have absolutely no regrets

[zyphere]

stupid pricing for a econobox that was a turd to drive in original trim, add a turbo to it and it's got more power but nothing else.

Don't see how it can compete with a Civic SI, ms3, or the new FR-S/BRZ

It's a zippy commuter car, that's all it is. I'm doubtful it will be fun to drive except for a little bit of a straight-line acceleration kick. The rest of those cars you listed are real driver's vehicles. The Toyobarus are more properly compared against the GenCoupe IMO. The MS3's price (including fees but NOT taxes) is comparable to the Veloster's OTR price.

I agree with chickenbones that the car is more about the gadgets than the driving dynamics. It was meant to make up for the complete gutlessness of the Veloster, which it probably does adequately, but unfortunately it did not address the handling issues.

Real drivers can look elsewhere. But many of you are making the Turbo sound more pointless than it is.

As for the GTI, it's a solid car but I'd take Hyundai reliability over VW anyday. I'd be more interested in looking at the GTI when the MKVII comes out.

[coriolis]

Looks like the fuel economy ratings have been posted.


FUEL ECONOMY

6-speed M/T
City 26 mpg
Highway 38 mpg
Combined 30 mpg

6-speed A/T
City 25 mpg
Highway 34 mpg
Combined 29 mpg

[Donelop]

Oddly enough, on my way to buy my GTI this past Saturday, I saw my first Veloster Turbo in real life on the road while driving along Hwy 7 through Markham. At first I thought it was Matte Grey from afar, but then I drove beside it and it turned out to be that other grey colour (the name eludes me right now), the Canadian-exclusive one.

Wait wait. You seen the light grey pearl one right? You sure it wasn't matte? or a 2012 grey V?


Oh and of course coriolis is here. lol

[matdwyer]

very good handling compared to what? a toyota corolla? lol

Have you driven in one for a long period of time? It's perfectly fine. It handles well, and is easy to drive. I've put maybe 5k on my gf's and its very comfortable even though I'm 6'5.

Agreed with rear visibility lacking and the back seat has extremely small head room, but other then that it's a fantastic car for the price. The base model absolutely blows every car out of the water for value. The turbo for 9k more maybe not, but that's personal preference.

Lots of hate here on assumptions or quick test drives, OP before you make a decision get behind the wheel and drive one. I was ridiculously impressed at the features/price point.

[rileywai]

that grille must go man.

[Non-Imbroglio]

Very nice car and actually like the front profile more than the '13 Genesis Coupe. Should be interesting to see its performance numbers and how it stacks up against its competitors. The auto option should help sales and will probably represent the majority; and probably the reason why the over 50 crowd will be buying ;-)

I am reading/hearing that the suspension is essentially the same as the base car? That would be a bit disappointing but would leave the door open for the tuners I suppose.

[coriolis]

Wait wait. You seen the light grey pearl one right? You sure it wasn't matte? or a 2012 grey V?


Oh and of course coriolis is here. lol

I'm everywhere, bwahahahhahahah!!!


Very nice car and actually like the front profile more than the '13 Genesis Coupe. Should be interesting to see its performance numbers and how it stacks up against its competitors. The auto option should help sales and will probably represent the majority; and probably the reason why the over 50 crowd will be buying ;-)

I am reading/hearing that the suspension is essentially the same as the base car? That would be a bit disappointing but would leave the door open for the tuners I suppose.

The suspension, mechanically, is the same, but apparently Hyundai has since 'tuned' it. And I use that very loosely.

[jdmkidd]

Test driving the GTI next Tuesday, FRS on July 6 can't wait. Definitely doing test drives before I put money down or something so I'll have to wait for the VT to officially realease.

[woodstock827]

Starting at almost $26k, it's a bit more expensive than expected. For this price I agree that there are better cars to be had (although with less tech features), and it's priced too close to the Genesis Coupe IMHO.. :o

I do like the 3 door design very much though... It will be very interesting to see how the reviews on this car come out, especially compared to the lack-luster regular Veloster...

[gilboman]

Have you driven in one for a long period of time? It's perfectly fine. It handles well, and is easy to drive. I've put maybe 5k on my gf's and its very comfortable even though I'm 6'5.

Agreed with rear visibility lacking and the back seat has extremely small head room, but other then that it's a fantastic car for the price. The base model absolutely blows every car out of the water for value. The turbo for 9k more maybe not, but that's personal preference.

Lots of hate here on assumptions or quick test drives, OP before you make a decision get behind the wheel and drive one. I was ridiculously impressed at the features/price point.

ya, felt like I was driving an accent "se"... still econobox with poor feedback/handling. As a cheap car with features, it's fine. But it's anything but a "hot hatch" or anything that deserves the word "sport" or driving fun in it.

again, it handles well for an econohatch, which is what you are saying? and I agree to that.

[Mike2000z28]

I don't know if its me, but any decent fast compacts are damn expensive. Its just nuts that no manufacturer can offer a fast compact decently loaded for under 24k. Once you start creeping into the 30s its just ridiculous at that point. Case in point, just priced out a VW GTI and just added the 6speed DSG auto and nothing else and its almost 38k tax in. $38000 for 200hp!! Car is about 20k overpriced. For Gods sake, you can get a used 2008 Z06 in the US for that if you look around. GM had it right with the turbo Cobalt a few years ago as that motor was fantastic and made big power. I think that's the only hope i have that they bring it back in some form.

[jdmkidd]

I don't know if its me, but any decent fast compacts are damn expensive. Its just nuts that no manufacturer can offer a fast compact decently loaded for under 24k. Once you start creeping into the 30s its just ridiculous at that point. Case in point, just priced out a VW GTI and just added the 6speed DSG auto and nothing else and its almost 38k tax in. $38000 for 200hp!! Car is about 20k overpriced. For Gods sake, you can get a used 2008 Z06 in the US for that if you look around. GM had it right with the turbo Cobalt a few years ago as that motor was fantastic and made big power. I think that's the only hope i have that they bring it back in some form.

Yea 38k I'm getting a 1 year old G37S fully loaded :facepalm:

[Repooc]

Wait wait. You seen the light grey pearl one right? You sure it wasn't matte? or a 2012 grey V?


Oh and of course coriolis is here. lol

Yup... definitely not matte grey. It had clear coat finish and was like a shiny mudd colour. The matte grey is definitely darker.

Are you saying that "Coriolis" was the one driving it? How did he (she?) get one so soon? I'm assuming they're some kind of Hyundai Canada employee? I know for a fact that they're not for sale, and it was pretty easy to spot with the updated headlight cluster, exhaust and front grill (definitely not a regular veloster).

[Repooc]

Wait wait. You seen the light grey pearl one right? You sure it wasn't matte? or a 2012 grey V?


Oh and of course coriolis is here. lol

Yup... definitely not matte grey. It had clear coat finish and was like a shiny muddy colour. The matte grey is definitely darker.

Are you saying that "Coriolis" was the one driving it? How did he (she?) get one so soon? I'm assuming they're some kind of Hyundai Canada employee? I know for a fact that they're not for sale, and it was pretty easy to spot with the updated headlight cluster, exhaust and front grill (definitely not a regular veloster).

[lordnikon]

I don't know if its me, but any decent fast compacts are damn expensive. Its just nuts that no manufacturer can offer a fast compact decently loaded for under 24k. Once you start creeping into the 30s its just ridiculous at that point. Case in point, just priced out a VW GTI and just added the 6speed DSG auto and nothing else and its almost 38k tax in. $38000 for 200hp!! Car is about 20k overpriced. For Gods sake, you can get a used 2008 Z06 in the US for that if you look around. GM had it right with the turbo Cobalt a few years ago as that motor was fantastic and made big power. I think that's the only hope i have that they bring it back in some form.

Most cars in Canada are overpriced but too low in the US compared with the rest of the world. But of course, who will complain about that?

The Cobalt SS has a nice engine but the rest of the car was cheaply made.

[Donelop]

Yup... definitely not matte grey. It had clear coat finish and was like a shiny muddy colour. The matte grey is definitely darker.

Are you saying that "Coriolis" was the one driving it? How did he (she?) get one so soon? I'm assuming they're some kind of Hyundai Canada employee? I know for a fact that they're not for sale, and it was pretty easy to spot with the updated headlight cluster, exhaust and front grill (definitely not a regular veloster).

lol no. Its just coriolis is also on the veloster.org forum so of course he'd be all up in this thread.

[coriolis]

I need to spend less time there. I'm going to take some time to think about the VT. I've been stalking the VT for a while, at $25k it'd be a great buy, at $30k, well you're barking up a whole new market segment there.

[Gunnerheadboy]

I hated the look of the car at first, but I now think it's really sexy and nice looking car.

[Non-Imbroglio]

Not sure if this was posted but here is a press release with a neat little comparison of other cars: http://hyundainews.com/us/en-us/Media/PressRelease.aspx?mediaid=34956&title=hyundai-injects-street-credibility-into-veloster-with-new-turbocharged-engine

[izzyzz]

I hated the look of the car at first, but I now think it's really sexy and nice looking car.

My view of the car changes on daily basis. Let's see... it's Wednesday... I bloody hate that look!! :D

[coriolis]

Yup... definitely not matte grey. It had clear coat finish and was like a shiny muddy colour. The matte grey is definitely darker.

Are you saying that "Coriolis" was the one driving it? How did he (she?) get one so soon? I'm assuming they're some kind of Hyundai Canada employee? I know for a fact that they're not for sale, and it was pretty easy to spot with the updated headlight cluster, exhaust and front grill (definitely not a regular veloster).

Not my pics, taken from the Veloster forums:


http://www.veloster.org/forum/attachments/hyundai-veloster-turbo-discussion/6216d1336671132-pictures-forces-pre-production-vt-markham-20120510-00017.jpg

http://www.veloster.org/forum/attachments/hyundai-veloster-turbo-discussion/6215d1336671123-pictures-forces-pre-production-vt-markham-20120510-00016.jpg

http://www.veloster.org/forum/attachments/hyundai-veloster-turbo-discussion/6217d1336671134-pictures-forces-pre-production-vt-markham-20120510-00018.jpg

[Donelop]

Wow. Looks a lot different when its outside.

[Supercooled]

Looks every bit as nice as I expected but man, after levies making it north of $31k is a bitter pill to swallow especially when people have thrown in alternatives like the GTI. Little electrical niggles aside, the GTI is a GTI. So much more refinement and is a better car.

[Repooc]

Not my pics, taken from the Veloster forums:
(I removed the images)

.... yup, that's the exact same one I saw.... notice how the "turbo" emblem has been debaged on the rear? The colour is so bland and 'meh'.
I was more impressed with how whoever was driving it was weaving very quickly in and out of traffic... I was doing about 65 on hwy 7, they probably were doing about 80..... however the engine/exhaust was disappointingly quiet.

Picking up my GTI tonight after work.... YAY!!

[DJ_Peanuts22]

Congrats on the GTI!



I was more impressed with how whoever was driving it was weaving very quickly in and out of traffic...

Why would reckless driving impress you?

[coriolis]

.... yup, that's the exact same one I saw.... notice how the "turbo" emblem has been debaged on the rear? The colour is so bland and 'meh'.
I was more impressed with how whoever was driving it was weaving very quickly in and out of traffic... I was doing about 65 on hwy 7, they probably were doing about 80..... however the engine/exhaust was disappointingly quiet.

Picking up my GTI tonight after work.... YAY!!

grats on the GTI! It's was on my list, til everyone around me bought one (two close cousins, and one of my best friends). It's the safe backup option, can't be unhappy with it. Though right now, my cousins 2 month old GTI's front headlights don't work, and the dealer is giving him the run-around to get it fixed, and it might cost him over $300 to fix it, so he's a bit unhappy about that.



As for the Turbo in the images, it was a pre-production autoshow vehicle, so badges were taken off. The paint is a bit 'meh', it looks like a dity shade of white, similar to the ones some Lexus hybrids have. If the driver was driving on hwy 7, that was probably Force, a Hyundai employee haha.

[jdmkidd]

grats on the GTI! It's was on my list, til everyone around me bought one (two close cousins, and one of my best friends). It's the safe backup option, can't be unhappy with it. Though right now, my cousins 2 month old GTI's front headlights don't work, and the dealer is giving him the run-around to get it fixed, and it might cost him over $300 to fix it, so he's a bit unhappy about that.



As for the Turbo in the images, it was a pre-production autoshow vehicle, so badges were taken off. The paint is a bit 'meh', it looks like a dity shade of white, similar to the ones some Lexus hybrids have. If the driver was driving on hwy 7, that was probably Force, a Hyundai employee haha.

ffffffffffffuuuu, VW electrical that's why I can't commit to the damn GTI for 35k+

[coriolis]

ffffffffffffuuuu, VW electrical that's why I can't commit to the damn GTI for 35k+

On the other hand, my other cousin's MK5 and my best friends MK6 hasn't had a single problem besides regular maintenance. Very YMMV.

[DJ_Peanuts22]

The TSI engine in the 2008.5+ GTI's were a lot more reliable and needed less in terms of maintenance compared to the earlier FSI engine.

[jdmkidd]

The TSI engine in the 2008.5+ GTI's were a lot more reliable and needed less in terms of maintenance compared to the earlier FSI engine.

Do you own one?

[DJ_Peanuts22]

Do you own one?

I was in the market for one last year and did a boatload of research. Decided against the purchase at the last second. Didn't want another FWD car.

[ultran00b]

Went to DVNH with my cumpare and they say there is a 4 month wait for the Turbo. They are waiting for '13 allotments. Was this a BS response as we drove there in two beige Corollas?

[comicbookguy]

ffffffffffffuuuu, VW electrical that's why I can't commit to the damn GTI for 35k+

I own a MK5. The thing with VW electrical problems is that you will know from Day 1 if you have issues. They're not problems that slowly creep up on you. The problematic cars have problems at the onset. Thankfully mine has been kind to me.

[jdmkidd]

Decided on a used 2011 limited edition Subaru Impreza WRX with 37km around $28k taxes in test drove it and fell in love :cheesygri picking it up next Tuesday! didn't work out for the VT but thanks for the inputs.

[sandikosh]

Went to DVNH with my cumpare and they say there is a 4 month wait for the Turbo. They are waiting for '13 allotments. Was this a BS response as we drove there in two beige Corollas?

Yes, if I am a salesperson and see someone with a beige corolla inquiring about a sporty car, I know they are wasting my time.

[izzyzz]

Yes, if I am a salesperson and see someone with a beige corolla inquiring about a sporty car, I know they are wasting my time.

Yea, seriously, next time he should at least try a modded Yaris (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/what-do-you-think-modding-yaris-1188589/).

[sandikosh]

Yea, seriously, next time he should at least try a modded Yaris (http://forums.redflagdeals.com/what-do-you-think-modding-yaris-1188589/).

A modded yaris will get his attention. At least the buyer is looking for excitement and willing to move up to more serious hardware.

[DJ_Peanuts22]

Decided on a used 2011 limited edition Subaru Impreza WRX with 37km around $28k taxes in test drove it and fell in love :cheesygri picking it up next Tuesday! didn't work out for the VT but thanks for the inputs.

Nice! Congrats!

Much better and faster car than the Veloster Turbo.

[Repooc]

Decided on a used 2011 limited edition Subaru Impreza WRX with 37km around $28k taxes in test drove it and fell in love :cheesygri picking it up next Tuesday! didn't work out for the VT but thanks for the inputs.

LOL.... that's two people in one week who were seriously considering the Veloster Turbo, who have decided to purchase another vehicle once the prices were launched. And I'm sure there will be many others.

Congrats on the WRX!! I also had that on my consideration list as well, but figured I didn't want to give up the fuel economy that comes withe the AWD, since my daily commute is rather short.

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http://www.veloster.org/forum/attachments/hyundai-veloster-turbo-discussion/6216d1336671132-pictures-forces-pre-production-vt-markham-20120510-00017.jpg

i wish. I had an excuse to buy another car!