*CLOSED* Koi and Shark Coin Group Buy - VANCOUVER

[switch]

VANCOUVER Koi Fish and Great White Shark Coin Group Buy

UPDATE: Tues, Aug 14

Running into issues trying to get our package fully insured and shipped. Most carriers will not insure shipments containing coins so we need to look into 3rd party insurance. Looks like we'll go with FedEx + U-PIC insurance. U-PIC has confirmed that they WILL insure collectible coins.

See updates on page 4 of this thread:

http://forums.redflagdeals.com/no-more-new-orders-koi-shark-coin-group-buy-vancouver-1189409/4/


UPDATE: Fri, Aug 3

Koi coins have been received by DWS in Toronto. We were originally going to wait for the Sharks and have them sent in 1 shipment, but we may get them shipped to Vancouver separately due to insurance limitations, max Canada Post package size restrictions, and Shark production delays.

Costs to be finalized.

See this post for details:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/no-more-new-orders-koi-shark-coin-group-buy-vancouver-1189409/3/#post15139046


UPDATE: Thu, June 21

All deposits received.
9 members participating.
Looks like the final tally is 28 sharks and 38 kois, for a total of 66 coins.
The group deposit will be sent to DWS tomorrow morning.

UPDATE: Mon, June 18

For GVR members that want to get in on the group shipment of the Koi and Shark coins to Vancouver, here are the details:

Costs:

Shark cost: $xxx CAD per coin (excluding shared shipping cost to Vancouver)
Koi cost: $xxx CAD per coin (excluding shared shipping cost to Vancouver)

From the main thread: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/taking-orders-deposits-koi-fish-great-white-shark-coin-group-buy-1173844/16/#post14904237

Deposits and Payments:

Confirmation and deposits are due by Thursday June 21, 2012 10pm Pacific Time.
Please PM me for deposit details via Email Money Transfer.
A $75 CAD per coin deposit will be required for each coin you'd like to reserve as DWS needs to cover the payment to the NZ Mint.
If you can provide a deposit for the full amount of each coin you want to reserve, DWS would be most appreciative.
The exact remainder will be due at a later date (based on when DWS requests the remainder).

Shipment and Pickup in Vancouver:

Expected shipping dates from the NZ mint for the Shark and Koi are around the end of July.
NZ mint will ship to DWS. When DWS receives the shipment, he will ship the Vancouver group order to me.
Shipment cost to be determined and all those participating in the group shipment will have their share allocated based on # of coins purchased. This amount will be included into the remainder and due at a later date. Your share of the shipping cost should be no more than an additional couple of bucks per coin at most.
Pickup dates and details to be posted.
switch will arrange 2 or 3 pickup dates in Downtown Vancouver and Burnaby.
lofony will be helping to setup a Richmond pickup date.

If you are in Vancouver and do not want to participate in the group shipment, please provide your deposit directly to DWS and make shipping arrangements directly with DWS.


UPDATE: Sat, June 16

Shark cost has been confirmed!!!
$xxx CAD (excluding shared shipping cost to Vancouver)

Koi cost awaiting confirmation by deal_with_singh with the NZ mint.

From the main thread: http://forums.redflagdeals.com/taking-orders-deposits-koi-fish-great-white-shark-coin-group-buy-1173844/15/#post14902735


Please refer to the original/main thread by DWS for details:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/taking-orders-deposits-koi-fish-great-white-shark-coin-group-buy-1173844/

This thread is a Vancouver local thread for a groupbuy of the following two items:




The Great White Shark Coin

http://www.nzmint.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/469x254/Great%20White%20Shark2.jpg
http://www.nzmint.com/coins/shop-online/2012-great-white-shark-1oz-silver-coin-set
1 oz .999 Silver
5k Mintage


Koi Fish/Feng Shui Coin

http://www.nzmint.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/469x254/Koi%20%20Final%20Visual%20ONLY.jpg
http://www.nzmint.com/coins/shop-online/feng-shui-–-koi
1 oz .999 Silver
8k Mintage




deal_with_singh has kindly offered to take orders for RFDers and will submit a large order to try to get dealer rates. We're trying to hit 300 of each coin in total to get a better discount (approx 2 or 3$ lower?), so that's our goal! I'm sure Vancouver RFDers will make up a healthy portion of this order.

I am taking orders and will take deposits that I will send to deal_with_singh to secure orders for the Vancouver contingent.

Once orders are submitted, payments are all sorted out, and the coins are received, I will make arrangements for pickup of the coins in Vancouver.

I'll update this original post as we go and confirm everyone's orders.

The following members have shown interest including numbers:



Username
Sharks (quantity)
Kois (quantity)
Confirmed
Deposit



lofony
4
4
confirmed
100% deposit received - June 20, 2012



DDHLeigh
2
2
confirmed
100% deposit received - June 18, 2012



1226
2
2
confirmed
$75/coin deposit received - June 20, 2012



switch
7
15
confirmed
100% deposit received - June 20, 2012



kiwong630
2
2
confirmed
$75/coin deposit received - June 18, 2012



dmxlite
2
2
confirmed
100% deposit received - June 20, 2012



kaycee8877
3
4
confirmed
100% deposit received - June 18+20, 2012



IanXP
2
4
confirmed
100% deposit received - June 20, 2012



apang
4
3
confirmed
100% deposit received - June 19, 2012



TOTAL
28
38






Koi/Shark quantities to be confirmed. Please PM me or post to confirm your total.

[lofony]

VANCOUVER Koi Fish and Great White Shark Coin Group Buy


Please refer to the original/main thread for details:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/taking-orders-deposits-koi-fish-great-white-shark-coin-group-buy-1173844/

This thread is a Vancouver local thread for a groupbuy of the following two items:

The Great White Shark Coin

http://www.nzmint.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/469x254/Great%20White%20Shark2.jpg
http://www.nzmint.com/coins/shop-onl...ilver-coin-set
1 oz .999 Silver
5k Mintage

Koi Fish/Feng Shui Coin

http://www.nzmint.com/sites/default/files/imagecache/469x254/Koi%20%20Final%20Visual%20ONLY.jpg
http://www.nzmint.com/coins/shop-online/feng-shui-–-koi
1 oz .999 Silver
8k Mintage

deal_with_singh has kindly offered to take orders for RFDers and will submit a large order to try to get dealer rates. We need to hit 300 of each coin in total, so that's our goal! I'm sure Vancouver RFDers will make up a healthy portion of this order.

I am taking orders and will take deposits that I will send to deal_with_singh to secure our orders.

Once orders are submitted, payments are all sorted out, and the coins are received, I will make arrangements for pickup of the coins in Vancouver.

I'll update this original post as we go and confirm everyone's orders.

The following members have shown interest:

Adubs888
lofony
DDHLeigh
1226
switch
kiwong630
dmxlite
Matrix_dot_ca (maybe)
bobu (maybe)

Koi/Shark quantities to be confirmed. Please PM me or post to confirm your total.
I'll leave out everyone's confirmed quantities so that everyone's individual amounts are undisclosed if you choose to PM me with your order.

As long as I respond to you confirming your total quantities, you are good.

that would be awesome. I dont mind to help too. see anywhere fits.

[deal_with_singh]

Thanks for taking the initiative Switch...really helps if I can just ship to 1 person instead of 10! :)

[dmxlite]

Thanks for doing this!

[switch]

No problems. Happy to help!

I've got some time over the next bit as I'm on parental leave from work taking care of the newborn with my wife. So I have bandwidth to coordinate and work with DWS.

[switch]

Updated list to include numbers.

Also included interest by kaycee8877 and quantities.

Thanks!

[switch]

Looks like we're currently sitting at 19 sharks and 42 kois.

I'll work with deal_with_singh to see if we can secure an allocation of 25 sharks and 50 kois for the Vancouver group we have so far and anyone else that may be interested. DWS told me that he'll secure exact numbers. So the # we order is the number we'll get! Get your orders in and let me know how many you're interested in.

If anyone else is interested and wants more.. or significantly more.. let me know so I can inform Singh and revise the Vancouver numbers if needed.

[IanXP]

any idea/confirmation of how much each costs? i'll prob get a few but it depends on the pricing
edit: I just read through the other thread..looks like the pricing may change depending on who Dws orders from.

[deal_with_singh]

Update on page 15 of the main thread :)

[lofony]

Update on page 15 of the main thread :)

I wonder how everyone in vancouver is going to pay their deposit?

[DDHLeigh]

I sent a PM to Switch, I guess he hasn't been on to update us yet.

[switch]

DDHLeigh, got your PM and will respond. I've just updated the original post.

I'm now taking orders (confirmations) and deposits. Due Thursday, June 21 by 10pm Pacific Time.

I will be sending the group deposit to DWS on Friday morning.

I've received many PMs and I'll be responding to everyone today.

I'll also be PMing everyone else on the list to confirm orders, participating in the Vancouver shipment and details.

Thanks!

[switch]

Deposits received from DDHLeigh and kaycee8877. Thanks!

Original post updated.

[deal_with_singh]

Deposits received from DDHLeigh and kaycee8877. Thanks!

Original post updated.

Haha just noticed, Switch, you're still "unconfirmed" yourself? :razz:

[switch]

Haha just noticed, Switch, you're still "unconfirmed" yourself? :razz:

I know.. :) The 25 kois are my own order + an inception inside this inception. The 25 are not all mine.. I'm no baller.

So I'm just awaiting confirmation from the kois under my name.. and I'll confirm myself and highlight in green with my deposit ready to be sent to DWS.

:)

[IanXP]

put me down on the list for 4 koi and 2 sharks. Can you pm me the details. Thanks.

[switch]

Deposit received from apang and added the order to the list.

Everyone else with deposits outstanding, be sure to send them through. Anyone else still interested and wanting to get in on this.. please let me know. Payments need to be in by Thursday night at 10pm (cutoff).

Thanks!

[switch]

Received deposits from dmxlite, lofony, and 1226. Thanks!

Just missing deposits from Adub888 and Matrix_dot_ca. Anyone else interested? Still time to join the group buy!.. But hurry! Cutoff is Thursday at 10pm Pacific!

Will be sending the deposits to DWS on Friday.

[switch]

Updated the list. A few folks have changed their minds and a few added/deposits confirmed..

Everyone on the list so far has provided their deposits.

If anyone else is looking to get in.. let me know via PM. Still a bit of time left to join the Vancouver order of these two coins.

[switch]

Ok. All deposits received.

9 members participating.

Looks like the final tally is 28 sharks and 38 kois, for a total of 66 coins.

DWS: Will send you the deposit tomorrow morning!

[lofony]

Ok. All deposits received.

9 members participating.

Looks like the final tally is 28 sharks and 38 kois, for a total of 66 coins.

DWS: Will send you the deposit tomorrow morning!


I thought we have more people from vancouver interested on those two coins :razz:

[deal_with_singh]

LOL You Vancouverites are soft haha. Jks aside... started off with 45 and 35 right? Final qtys not bad in that sense ;)

[switch]

LOL You Vancouverites are soft haha. Jks aside... started off with 45 and 35 right? Final qtys not bad in that sense ;)

LOL! :)

I think we had just under 75 coins total in original interest. Some orders increased, some decreased, and only 2 people who were originally interested changed their minds and are passing on the shark and koi. Everyone else confirmed and submitted their deposits promptly.

Let's see the GTA numbers at the end of the day tomorrow!.. I'm sure there'll be a strong showing.

Hat's off to DWS for coordinating all of this from Koi/Shark HQ in Toronto.. It's a lot of work just to coordinate the small Vancouver group..

I can't imagine how many hours of work DWS is putting into emailing New Zealand, responding to PMs/emails, and playing with spreadsheets.

[switch]

Just an update.. Deposits are being sent to DWS in installments due to transfer limits.

The entire deposit will transferred by Sunday to DWS. DWS is OK with this as I've already communicated this to him. So we're all good!

[deal_with_singh]

Just an update.. Deposits are being sent to DWS in installments due to transfer limits.

The entire deposit will transferred by Sunday to DWS. DWS is OK with this as I've already communicated this to him. So we're all good!

Yep, I'm fine with this. Experiencing this issue with other "sub-group buys" as well haha.

One of the main reasons I made the cut off day a couple days before the order date...in case we run into situations like this :D

[Adub888]

When you guys get your coins and are interested in trading 1 shark and 1 koi for my venetian bumble bee, pm me.

[switch]

Just an update.

All deposits have finally been all sent to DWS. Had to send them in 3 installments due to EMT send/receive limits. Sent a total of $5676.00 CAD (everyone's deposits) to DWS.

Any remainder will be owed later.. (kiwong630 and 1226).

Also, shipping will be calculated and split. I expect it to be no more than $2-3/coin depending on the method used. Either Canada Post or UPS.. DWS has found a few shipping methods, but we'll see how much the box will weigh and I'm looking to get the shipment fully insured as well.

And so we wait!..

[deal_with_singh]

Just an update.

All deposits have finally been all sent to DWS. Had to send them in 3 installments due to EMT send/receive limits. Sent a total of $5676.00 CAD (everyone's deposits) to DWS.

Any remainder will be owed later.. (kiwong630 and 1226).

Also, shipping will be calculated and split. I expect it to be no more than $2-3/coin depending on the method used. Either Canada Post or UPS.. DWS has found a few shipping methods, but we'll see how much the box will weigh and I'm looking to get the shipment fully insured as well.

And so we wait!..

Received full amount (minus shipping)....


Although just wanted to update you guys with the new email I received from the NZ....shipping costs to me are higher than expected.

Please add $1 per coin you have ordered.

Here's the email:



Hi ******,

We are still waiting on the packaging to be completed and delivered to our warehouse.

I’m unable to reduce this pricings – in fact I have made an error in my pricing on the Shark but will supply these at our agreed price.

The reason for this are the dies and strike cost to produce this particular coin.

I have also given you our best price on the Feng Shui coin.

Freight cost for your order will be US$1,630.00

I will email you an invoice which will include our bank details – you will need to deposit this into our account before we ship the product.

Regards

Chris Kirkness
VP - USA Operations
Mobile: **********

[switch]

Hey guys! GOOD NEWS!!!

The Koi were shipped out to me on July 24th! The guy I'm dealing with was forwarded the email about the shipment but either I didn't get it or he forgot to forward it on to me until now!

Either way...I got the email today with a tracking number, and FEDEX Says it will arrive July 30th by 5pm. Typically this means it will arrive 2 days after this day due to customs paper work (happens every time)


Now...I'm going to leave this up to you guys outside of the GTA to decide if you want the Koi's and Sharks shipped together or if you want the Koi's shipped now I don;t mind either as the email I got mentioned that the shark shipping date is still unknown due to issues.

Alright! So NZ Mint has shipped the Kois out to DWS.

Do you guys want him to ship it separately? Or can everyone wait a couple of weeks and have both the Kois and Sharks shipped out together? This would probably save on shipping and having to arrange separate pick ups for the koi and sharks. Only issue is that we don't know when the Sharks will arrive..

Any urgency in needing the Kois ASAP? Or would everyone be able to wait until the sharks come in as well?

[DDHLeigh]

I have no urgency so I'll just go by what the majority wants.

[1226]

I'd prefer to wait.

[kingofwale]

i think the koi coin will do better in Vancourver than in Toronto.

we can see that Switch is the baller there. LOL

[switch]

i think the koi coin will do better in Vancourver than in Toronto.

we can see that Switch is the baller there. LOL

LOL! Not a baller in any way.. My funds are tied up in buying boxes of Pampers and Huggies for who knows how long..

And only 5 of those kois are really mine.. 5 go to a friend of mine not on RFD, and the remaining 5 go to another friend.

If only I could talk them out of their Kois.. so that I can have theirs.. :)

[kingofwale]

LOL! Not a baller in any way.. My funds are tied up in buying boxes of Pampers and Huggies for who knows how long..

And only 5 of those kois are really mine.. 5 go to a friend of mine not on RFD, and the remaining 5 go to another friend.

If only I could talk them out of their Kois.. so that I can have theirs.. :)

I'm hoping for no more than 2-3 years. or else there might be a bigger problems. ;)

lol, great groupbuy, keep up the great works

[switch]

I'm hoping for no more than 2-3 years. or else there might be a bigger problems. ;)

Haha.. no kidding!

If only babies pooped gold and silver coins.. like a chicken lays eggs.. How awesome would that be.. if that were the case, I wouldn't know whether to be happy.. or worried.

Ok.. back on topic. Anyone else with an urgent need for DWS to ship us the Kois in a separate shipment?

[deal_with_singh]

Just to give you guys a rough estimate, it will cost about an extra $50 or so to send these in 2 separate shipments :D

[DDHLeigh]

Is everyone in agreement to wait?

[switch]

Is everyone in agreement to wait?

Only 2 replies.. from yourself and 1226 to wait.

Seems like everyone else is on vacation?

Let's wait.. we'll stay in touch with DWS and keep updated on when the sharks come in and then get everything shipped out to us.

[lofony]

Only 2 replies.. from yourself and 1226 to wait.

Seems like everyone else is on vacation?

Let's wait.. we'll stay in touch with DWS and keep updated on when the sharks come in and then get everything shipped out to us.

I can wait :) there is no point of rushing to get the coins and spend more on shipping.

[kiwong630]

i can wait too.

[kaycee8877]

i dont care either way

[IanXP]

either way is also fine for me

[switch]

TLDR - Kois may come early. Pickups TBD. Amounts remaining payable in cash to me on pickup.

Detailed version:

We may be getting the Kois early.. and a separate shipment for the Sharks when they come in..

Here are the latest developments:


Insurance - the total of the coins ordered (Sharks + Kois) is above $5000 (which is the maximum that Canada Post will insure). We're close to $6000 total (maybe a bit more.. maybe a bit less). I'd prefer to have our goods fully insured so that nobody is on the hook if the package is lost in transit. So if shipping by Canada Post, we'll need to split the shipments into 2 shipments anyway to have the coins fully insured and get around the $5k max.


Shark Delay - NZ mint has informed us that the Sharks will be 1 month delayed (at least..). Most of us don't mind waiting.. but we have no idea when they'll get the production of these Shark coins sorted out.. Could be awhile..


Max package dimension size - DWS has also let me know that the NZ mint shipped the Kois in 5 separate shipments of 40 coins each. (We have 38 Kois in our Vancouver groupbuy). That box size seems to be the maximum dimensions of that Canada Post will accept. DWS will provide me with the weight and box size. So even if we wait for the sharks, we may need to get the coins shipped in two shipments anyways

Once I get the dimensions and weight of the box containing the 38 Kois..

We'll get a total from Canada Post for the various shipping rates available that include full insurance (of the total amount INCLUDING shipping costs).. and determine the final cost of the Kois. (and an estimate

And then see if we can agree on a shipping method depending on what options are available to determine final cost and how much everyone owes.. so I can wire DWS some more money to get the coins sent here.

Rough estimates:


Weight per koi: (64.5 kilograms) / 190 = 339.473684 grams per koi
Weight of the 190 kois was 64.5 kgs.. So it works out to approx 340 grams per koi..

Weight of package: 340 grams * 38 koi = 12.92 kgs

Rough shipping estimates so we know approximately how much extra shipping will be for each coin ordered:

Regular Parcel (7 business days - with $3100 insurance) - $100
$2.64 extra per coin for shipping

TOTAL: Somewhere around $xx + ~2-3 per koi.

Shark total cost will be similar (102 + 2-3 extra for shipping)..


Additional Notes:


Final totals and amounts owing to be confirmed.


Remaining amounts owing can be paid to me in cash at pickup of the coins.


Coins to be distributed at random due to fairness for COA#s and risk of damage to the packages and coins. I will not go through the coins to find specific COA#s for anyone, so please, no requests. Feel free to advertise and trade amongst yourselves if you do want or have special COA#s to offer or request.


Pickup dates, times, and locations to be determined.

[DDHLeigh]

Thanks for the update Switch.

[switch]

Update:

Shipping will be around $110.

Final Cost = $xx per Koi
($xx + $3 shipping per Koi)

I just EMT'd DWS the remaining costs (including the shipping costs) for the Kois out of pocket so that he could ship the Kois out to Vancouver sometime this week. Expect the package to arrive in Vancouver next week or the week after.

Pickups to be determined and I'll have a confirmed list of how much everyone owes posted as well (most people owe only the $3/koi for shipping, unless you paid only the $75 deposit.. in which case, you owe me $6/koi). Remaining amounts owing can be paid directly to me at time of pickup (TBD).

I'm sure everyone is excited to receive the Kois!!

[deal_with_singh]

Update:

Shipping will be around $110.

Final Cost = $81 per Koi
($78 + $3 shipping per Koi)

I just EMT'd DWS the remaining costs (including the shipping costs) for the Kois out of pocket so that he could ship the Kois out to Vancouver sometime this week. Expect the package to arrive in Vancouver next week or the week after.

Pickups to be determined and I'll have a confirmed list of how much everyone owes posted as well (most people owe only the $3/koi for shipping, unless you paid only the $75 deposit.. in which case, you owe me $6/koi). Remaining amounts owing can be paid directly to me at time of pickup (TBD).

I'm sure everyone is excited to receive the Kois!!

Yep, just wanted to confirm I have received this. I will likely ship the coins out this Thursday as its my day off. And it should take no longer than 5 business days to receive. :D

[lofony]

Update:

Shipping will be around $110.

Final Cost = $81 per Koi
($78 + $3 shipping per Koi)




Yep, just wanted to confirm I have received this. I will likely ship the coins out this Thursday as its my day off. And it should take no longer than 5 business days to receive. :D

Thanks for the updates.
$12 extra for me is not that bad :) Sure my girl friend will not blame me for such great packaging coins!!!!

[kiwong630]

thanks for the updates. i am so excited to get the coins in my hands. thanks for all your hard work, Switch and DWS.

[switch]

Just an update:

Been working with DWS to get this shipped out west to Vancouver.. however, we ran into a hiccup.

We want to ensure that the package is 100% insured to make sure we're covered if the package is lost in transit.

Canada Post, UPS, FedEx (and most major carriers) will not insure coins or precious metals as explicitly laid out in their terms. So we can't ship and buy insurance with Canada Post, FedEx etc. Most retailers of coins will ship with a carrier and then use 3rd party insurance for coverage.

I did some research and it looks like U-PIC and Shipsurance are the most popular 3rd party insurers that people use and support Canada Post domestic, FedEx, etc shipping methods as well as insure collectible coins / numismatics.

http://www.u-pic.com/
http://www.shipsurance.com/

After running some numbers.. it looks like FedEx for shipping + U-PIC for insurance is the most cost effective method while still being able to fully insure numismatic collectible coins.

Fedex:
FedEx Ground will cost around $40.
U-PIC 3rd party insurance for FedEx will cost about $20.
TOTAL will come to around $60 for shipping + insurance.

Compared to CanadaPost:
Canada Post, Regular Parcel: $40
U-PIC 3rd party insurance for Canada Post: $45
TOTAL: around $85

So any extra that we wired to DWS will be saved and applied towards the Shark shipment when they come in.

Any concerns?.. Should the package be lost.. we'll need to work with DWS for claims with U-PIC etc.. but let's hope that the kois arrive safely.. since we're all really excited for them to arrive!..

Note:

Should the package be lost and should U-PIC deny the claim for whatever reason.. neither DWS or I can be held responsible for reimbursement.

Neither DWS or I can afford to reimburse everyone back out of our pockets.. so we're making extra effort to ensure that this package is fully insured and that we're covered. We've scoured the internet for options and advice.. to make sure we're covered and the package is safe.

If anyone has any feedback, concerns, or recommendations.. Please let us know in this thread so that we can look into any alternate methods of making sure the package is shipped and fully insured.

[switch]

Can everyone let me know if you're OK with FedEx (FedEx Ground) + U-PIC (3rd party insurance)?

Also, that we're trying our best to ensure the best shipping method + full insurance, but that neither DWS and myself can reimburse everyone if U-PIC denies our claim if the package is lost?

Please reply below.. and let us know if there are better options.

Hoping to get these shipped out as soon as possible.. however, I want to make sure everyone is OK with the chosen shipping method and insurance details.

[kiwong630]

I am ok with FedEx (FedEx Ground) + U-PIC (3rd party insurance) and let's hope that the kois will arrive safely.

thanks

[DDHLeigh]

I'm okay with anything

[1226]

Whatever's the cheapest.

[switch]

I inquired specifically about collectible coins with U-PIC.. and here's the response:


Good Morning,

Thank you for contacting the U-PIC support department. We will be more than happy to assist you today.

The coverage for collectible coins is available through U-PIC. The only exception is that we will not insure them to the zip codes you mentioned but as you are sending them from and to a destination within Canada you shouldn’t have any issues. Both Canada Post and FedEx are acceptable methods of shipping for our insurance.

If you have any further questions please feel free to contact us at anytime. We can also be contacted via telephone at (800)-955-4623 or you can chat with us online at www.u-pic.com between the hours of 8:00 am to 5:00 pm PST

Jesse
U-PIC Account Executive
U-PIC Insurance Services

So this confirms that U-PIC Insurance WILL insure collectible coin shipments.

The zipcodes I mentioned are listed in U-PICs terms and conditions.

http://www.u-pic.com/CoverageRules.aspx


U-PIC will not insure coin or jewelry shipments to or from the following zip codes: 10017, 10036, 94102, 94108

[lofony]

Hi Switch

Sorry I just got your message. It is great that they do insure our coins. So please go ahead and discard my private message replied to you earlier.

Thank you very much.

[apang]

okay with anything.

thanks

[kaycee8877]

fine with whatever

[dmxlite]

Thanks, I'm okay with this.

[deal_with_singh]

Will be shipping it via Fedex tomorrow insured through u-pic.

Fedex states it will take 4 business days to arrive, so expect it to come in around monday-tuesday next week. :)

[1226]

I wonder what's up with those 4 zip codes? 2 downtown San Fran and 2 downtown manhattan. Each of those downtown areas have dozens of other zip codes which are fine? Weird. One too many scams from people in those particular areas maybe?

[switch]

Will be shipping it via Fedex tomorrow insured through u-pic.

Fedex states it will take 4 business days to arrive, so expect it to come in around monday-tuesday next week. :)

Thanks DWS!!!

[switch]

I wonder what's up with those 4 zip codes? 2 downtown San Fran and 2 downtown manhattan. Each of those downtown areas have dozens of other zip codes which are fine? Weird. One too many scams from people in those particular areas maybe?

Probably some fishy business was originating from those zipcodes. Insurance fraud, etc..?

Edit: Googling reveals the following:

"Out of the 44,000 plus zip codes in the US, just four are excluded by many third-party insurance carriers: 10017, 10036, 94102, and 94108. And just where are those zip codes? The so called “Diamond Districts” of San Francisco and New York."

Areas with high concentrations of jewellery stores, etc..

[1226]

Interesting. Must be a lot of fraud. Otherwise they're turning away what's likely a ton of business for nothing.

[deal_with_singh]

Shipping label has been printed, insurance has been purchased.

All of this info has been given to switch.

FedEx will pick up the package tomorrow (I suppose I was a bit late in scheduling pick up for today) and it will be 4 days from then.

[lofony]

Shipping label has been printed, insurance has been purchased.

All of this info has been given to switch.

FedEx will pick up the package tomorrow (I suppose I was a bit late in scheduling pick up for today) and it will be 4 days from then.

So how much was the final for shipping? Does that mean we are getting couple bucks less per coin?
Sorry from pg4 thats $40 + $20 correct me if I am mistaken.

Anyway, thank you very much DWS + Switch

Cannot wait to show my GF the coins.

[switch]

So how much was the final for shipping? Does that mean we are getting couple bucks less per coin?
Sorry from pg4 thats $40 + $20 correct me if I am mistaken.

Anyway, thank you very much DWS + Switch

Cannot wait to show my GF the coins.

I'll work out the calculations. Probably a buck less per coin.

So maybe instead of $81 coin.. it'd be $80 per coin.

Previous shipping was based on a cost of $110 shipping split 38 ways. Getting the final cost.. Insurance was in USD so I've asked DWS for the amounts in CAD as charged to his credit card.

Stay tuned!

[lofony]

I'll work out the calculations. Probably a buck less per coin.

So maybe instead of $81 coin.. it'd be $80 per coin.

Previous shipping was based on a cost of $110 shipping split 38 ways. Getting the final cost.. Insurance was in USD so I've asked DWS for the amounts in CAD as charged to his credit card.

Stay tuned!

Cool. Thanks :)

[deal_with_singh]

So how much was the final for shipping? Does that mean we are getting couple bucks less per coin?
Sorry from pg4 thats $40 + $20 correct me if I am mistaken.

Anyway, thank you very much DWS + Switch

Cannot wait to show my GF the coins.

Should be around there. Fedex apparently doesn't charge you until its picked up and delivered when you print it online so not sure if the $40 included tax or not (From the looks of it, it did) and Upic was in USD as Switch mentioned, so after my CC does its conversion, we'll see what the final amount is.

[deal_with_singh]

Just thought I'd give a little update....Package is still sitting in the Mississauga Depot according to the tracking number

[deal_with_singh]

Update: Package has arrived in Richmond, BC. Expected Delivery is tomorrow.

[lofony]

Update: Package has arrived in Richmond, BC. Expected Delivery is tomorrow.

Shoot I live at Richmond.... Should have sent them to my address :D
Thx for the update DWS!

[switch]

Nice! Thanks for the update, DWS.

Will post when they're delivered tomorrow. However, I won't be able to arrange any meetups or pickups until next Wednesday at the earliest.

Have a crazy schedule with a wedding that I'm helping with and some family in town.. but will be able to meet afterwards once the dust settles. I appreciate everyone's patience.. I know.. :S

PICKUPS:

I will be setting up pickups in the following locations next week:

Downtown Vancouver
Richmond
Burnaby

If there are folks in Surrey/Tri-Cities and can't make it to one of these locations, please let me know and perhaps I can give your coins to another member who can pickup from me in Downtown, Richmond, or Burnaby and meet up with you in Surrey or Tri-Cities.

Dates and times TBD. I'll be reaching out to everyone via PM.

UPDATED KOI COSTS:

Updated additional costs for shipping:
Shipping: $40 (FedEx Ground)
Insurance: $17 (U-PIC Insurance)
EMT Fee: $1.50
TOTAL: $58.50

Split 38 ways for each coin..

FINAL COST per KOI: $xx.xx

AMOUNTS OWING:

For those that have already paid the "full" deposit/coin:
Additional owing per coin: $1.54

For those that paid only the required deposit:
Additional owing per coin: $4.54

Please pay your owing amounts to me in cash on pickup of the coins.



Username
Kois (quantity)
Deposit
Remainder Owing (Kois only)



lofony
4
$78/coin received - June 20, 2012
$6.16



DDHLeigh
2
$78/coin received - June 18, 2012
$3.08



1226
2
$75/coin deposit received - June 20, 2012
$9.08



switch
15
$78/coin received - June 20, 2012
N/A - me..



kiwong630
2
$75/coin deposit received - June 18, 2012
$9.08



dmxlite
2
$78/coin received - June 20, 2012
$3.08



kaycee8877
4
$78/coin received - June 18+20, 2012
$6.16



IanXP
4
$78/coin received - June 20, 2012
$6.16



apang
3
$78/coin received - June 19, 2012
$4.62



TOTAL
38

[lofony]

Nice! Thanks for the update, DWS.

Will post when they're delivered tomorrow. However, I won't be able to arrange any meetups or pickups until next Wednesday at the earliest.

Have a crazy schedule with a wedding that I'm helping with and some family in town.. but will be able to meet afterwards once the dust settles. I appreciate everyone's patience.. I know.. :S



Thanks Switch. Let me know the time and location at your convenience. I definitely wish sometime after 6pm (work from 9-6) or during the weekend. I can help if anyone from Richmond is unable to meet you.

Cheers

[deal_with_singh]

Tracking number shows they arrived just a Little while ago (~1hr?)...I'm just relieved to know package made it! Paranoid after losing my $20 for $20 in the mail lol.

As for balance owing, hope you guys round it to the very least, I for one hate dealing with cents!!

[switch]

Just received the box at work.

Haven't had a chance to open the box.. but our school of Koi fish have arrived in Vancouver!

[kiwong630]

i want to pick up in Richmond, so excited.

[deal_with_singh]

Just had another update. The shipping cost has risen by an additional $7 ($6.78) as Fedex apparently charges for pick up for "FedEx Ground" related shipments.

[switch]

Just had another update. The shipping cost has risen by an additional $7 ($6.78) as Fedex apparently charges for pick up for "FedEx Ground" related shipments.

No problem. I've recalculated the costs and amounts owing per coin.

REVISED KOI COSTS:

Updated additional costs for shipping:
Shipping: $47 (FedEx Ground)
Insurance: $17 (U-PIC Insurance)
EMT Fee: $1.50
TOTAL: $65.50

Split 38 ways for each coin..

FINAL COST per KOI: $xx.xx

AMOUNTS OWING:

For those that have already paid the "full" deposit/coin:
Additional owing per coin: $1.73

For those that paid only the required deposit:
Additional owing per coin: $4.73

Please pay your owing amounts to me in cash on pickup of the coins.



Username
Kois (quantity)
Deposit
Remainder Owing (Kois only)



lofony
4
$78/coin received - June 20, 2012
$6.92



DDHLeigh
2
$78/coin received - June 18, 2012
$3.46



1226
2
$75/coin deposit received - June 20, 2012
$9.46



switch
15
$78/coin received - June 20, 2012
N/A - me..



kiwong630
2
$75/coin deposit received - June 18, 2012
$9.46



dmxlite
2
$78/coin received - June 20, 2012
$3.46



kaycee8877
4
$78/coin received - June 18+20, 2012
$6.92



IanXP
4
$78/coin received - June 20, 2012
$6.92



apang
3
$78/coin received - June 19, 2012
$5.19



TOTAL
38

[1226]

Just had another update. The shipping cost has risen by an additional $7 ($6.78) as Fedex apparently charges for pick up for "FedEx Ground" related shipments.

A pick up fee? What the hell is that? What's next, a labelling fee?

[switch]

A pick up fee? What the hell is that? What's next, a labelling fee?

Last APMEX order.. Fedex added a fee for processing "additional line items" on the APMEX invoice.. :rolleyes:

[1226]

Last APMEX order.. Fedex added a fee for processing "additional line items" on the APMEX invoice.. :rolleyes:

Too many lines on the invoice??? Fedex is becoming about as likeable as UPS.

[DDHLeigh]

I can do Burnaby

[IanXP]

I should be able to pick up from Richmond. Thanks again for organizing the Vancouver portion of the GB

[kiwong630]

when can we pick up??

[switch]

Can I ask everyone to PM me with the following:

Location
Preferred days of the week and times..
Phone number

So I can get in touch with everyone to make arrangements?

Also, let me know if anyone can meet downtown on weekdays.. as I work downtown and can meet during lunch.

As previously mentioned, I appreciate everyone's patience. The weekend was pretty hectic with family from out of town visiting for a wedding and having to do family stuff. They're still here.. so it's pretty difficult to get away and arrange pick ups. I should be able to arrange some near the end of this week and next week when things are back to normal.

In the meantime, please drop me a PM so I can make arrangements with everyone!

Thanks!

[lofony]

Pm sent.
Thx :)

[switch]

Good to meet up with dmxlite, kiwong630, and lofony this past weekend!

For those that are in a rush to get your Kois as soon as possible, can you make arrangements with me to pick up your coins this week?

I will be away from Saturday, September 8 to Sunday, September 16 and won't be able to arrange pickups during those dates inclusive.

For those that can wait, I'll be available to meet up again after the 16th.

[DDHLeigh]

Has anyone not received their coins? Maybe we can make it easy for Switch and meet up all on one set date and time. Post response here and lets set it up.

[switch]

Has anyone not received their coins? Maybe we can make it easy for Switch and meet up all on one set date and time. Post response here and lets set it up.

Thanks DDHLeigh!

I still owe coins to you, apang, and 1226.

If something can be setup.. That'd make it easier! But I understand it's difficult to make everyone's schedules line up.

Would love to get these kois to their rightful owners!

[1226]

Has anyone not received their coins? Maybe we can make it easy for Switch and meet up all on one set date and time. Post response here and lets set it up.

I'm hoping for Saturday late afternoon near BC Place before the Whitecaps game. Not married to it though.

[DDHLeigh]

Sat shouldn't be a problem for me too. Or the Micky D's at Main and Terminal? Depends on if apang and switch are available that date.

[switch]

If both of you are available on Saturday.. I'll confirm. Micky D's at Main/Terminal would work.. as would somewhere near BC Place (Starbucks?).

We'll move this to PM / email for the specifics. I'll PM apang to see if he can meet up as well.

[deal_with_singh]

If both of you are available on Saturday.. I'll confirm. Micky D's at Main/Terminal would work.. as would somewhere near BC Place (Starbucks?).

We'll move this to PM / email for the specifics. I'll PM apang to see if he can meet up as well.

Haha Switch, you ready to deal with another round of coins? :) Taku's will be arriving Monday!

[DDHLeigh]

met switch and apang this weekend. nice guys and pick up was easy.

[deal_with_singh]

Maybe I should take a trip to Vancouver myself to deliver the Sharks and you guys can take my flight as the shipping fee.

I'll get a free out of vacation of this ;)


(Just kidding! But man I need a vacation, and I really love Vancouver!)

[deal_with_singh]

Sharks have arrived...see the main GB thread for deets!

[switch]

Awesome!

Will work with DWS to get these shipped out to Vancouver. Pics looks great in the other thread!

[lofony]

Awesome!

Will work with DWS to get these shipped out to Vancouver. Pics looks great in the other thread!

Alright. Time to add to my collections :)

[lofony]

Any Estimated shipping time? Really I cannot wait to have those coins and perfect time for gifts!!!!!!!!

[switch]

DWS sent me an estimate and I'll calculate everyone's share of the shipping + remaining owing by tomorrow.

I'll EMT DWS the outstanding amounts we owe.. and then when they ship out, I'll ask DWS to let us know!

Should arrive in about a week after DWS ships it from Toronto... and then pickups to follow!

[deal_with_singh]

Hey Switch, just wanted to let you know that if you are not able to confirm everything by tomorrow, I will have to delay it till next thursday as I'm leaving town Sunday evening :).

[switch]

Working out the calcs:

DWS provided the following quote:

$45.11 from Fedex
$6.50 + tax charge ($7.35) for FedEx pickup (no fedex in the staples near DWS anymore)
$22.10 for $3500 insurance from U-PIC
$1.50 EMT

48 x 45 x 30cm box. 15kg packaging. $3500 insurance.

So roughly $76 shipping costs.

28 Sharks in the shipment (+ 7 gilded takus + 1 koi ordered by tiggerthetech seperately).

Total of $76 split amongst 36 coins = $2.11 shipping each (less coins in this shipment, and the insurance value is higher)

Final cost of the Sharks was $102 / coin, so $1.00 owing per coin (we originally paid $101 per shark)

For those that paid only $75.00 deposit, $27.00 is owing per coin (102-75 = $27.00)

I'll put everything into a nice table with everyone's quantities and amounts owing.

Will EMT DWS the final amount once we get confirmation from him that everything is OK!

[switch]

Just an update:

DWS has arranged to ship out the package to us in Vancouver. Should be picked up from DWS tomorrow via FedEx.

In the meantime, we're just working out how much I need to EMT DWS since we're trying to figure out how much of the last EMT is remaining out of the amount paid, and the shipping costs used. (A minor amount, but we're trying to get it right!)

We'll keep everyone posted!

[lofony]

Just an update:

DWS has arranged to ship out the package to us in Vancouver. Should be picked up from DWS tomorrow via FedEx.

In the meantime, we're just working out how much I need to EMT DWS since we're trying to figure out how much of the last EMT is remaining out of the amount paid, and the shipping costs used. (A minor amount, but we're trying to get it right!)

We'll keep everyone posted!

Thats awesome! Thx

[deal_with_singh]

Just got notification that the package has arrived in Vancouver :D

[switch]

Indeed! Shipment has arrived!

DWS and I are just trying to figure out how much we owe DWS.

He's got a midterm so he's been understandably busy. (DWS: Stay off the forum and get back to studying!)

Once we finalize the amount, I'll be EMTing him the remaining owing, update my spreadsheets, and will calculate everyone's amounts owing + arrange pickups!

[deal_with_singh]

Indeed! Shipment has arrived!

DWS and I are just trying to figure out how much we owe DWS.

He's got a midterm so he's been understandably busy. (DWS: Stay off the forum and get back to studying!)

Once we finalize the amount, I'll be EMTing him the remaining owing, update my spreadsheets, and will calculate everyone's amounts owing + arrange pickups!

Haha, this forums too distracting. Finally got some time and look into it further. We're just getting a $8 difference, so its not really a big deal, but just going to see where we got different numbers :).

[switch]

Ok! Took awhile to figure this out with DWS.. Apologies for the delay.

Here are the amounts owing for the Shark shipment!

PICKUPS:

I can meet everyone at the same places as before to get you your sharks. Will PM to arrange times.

UPDATED SHARK COSTS:

Updated additional costs for shipping:
Shipping: $45 (FedEx Ground)
Pickup Fee: $7.35
Insurance: $22.66 (U-PIC Insurance)
EMT Fee: $1.50
TOTAL: $76.51

Split 36 ways for coins included in shipment from DWS = $2.13 for shipping

Original deposits were $101. Actual cost was $102 + shipping = $102 + $2.13 = $104.13

AMOUNTS OWING:

For those that have already paid the original "full" deposit of $101/coin:
Additional owing per coin: $3.13

For those that paid only the required $75 deposit (102-75 + 2.13):
Additional owing per coin: $29.13

Please pay your owing amounts to me in cash on pickup of the coins.



Username
Sharks (quantity)
Deposit
Remainder Owing to switch (Sharks only)



lofony
4
$101/coin received - June 20, 2012
$12.52



DDHLeigh
2
$101/coin received - June 18, 2012
$6.26



1226
2
$75/coin deposit received - June 20, 2012
$47.72 ($20 paid last time)



switch
7
$101/coin received - June 20, 2012
N/A - me..



kiwong630
2
$75/coin deposit received - June 18, 2012
$58.26



dmxlite
2
$101/coin received - June 20, 2012
$6.26



kaycee8877
3
$78/coin received - June 18+20, 2012
$9.39



IanXP
2
$78/coin received - June 20, 2012
$6.26



apang
4
$78/coin received - June 19, 2012
$12.52



SUBTOTAL
28






Additional NZ Mint items that hitched a ride with the Sharks:



Username
Takus/Koi (quantity)
Deposit
Remainder Owing to switch (Shipping)



tiggerthetech
1 koi + 2 takus
Paid to DWS
$6.39



switch
5 takus
Paid to DWS
N/A - me..



SUBTOTAL
8






TOTAL # coins in shipment: 36

[switch]

Pickup this Sunday!

Will be meeting a few folks at the coin show at Oakridge this weekend.
PM if you can make it in the morning between 11 to noonish.

NOV. 18, Vancouver, BC
North Shore Numismatic Society Coin & Stamp Show
Oakridge Centre Auditorium - 41st & Cambie.
Hours: 10 a.m. to 4 p.m.
Free admission, free parking, more than 30 dealer tables, free appraisals.

[switch]

Thanks to everyone for picking up the sharks and making it easy to meet!

As for those that browsed the coin show.. pick up anything interesting?

I didn't actually have a chance to get anything at the coin show as I had a bit of time to browse, but had to head out shortly after getting everyone their Sharks. Always next time!

Also, positive RFD BST feedback would be appreciated for the groupbuys:

Click here to leave me feedback:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/itrader_feedback.php?u=149

And feedback DWS as well:
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/itrader_feedback.php?u=212002

Thanks again!