Scarborough man says family ‘targeted’ in attacks by local teens

[cheapmeister]

Toronto Police are investigating brazen attacks that have terrorized a Scarborough home leaving a school teacher struggling to defend his young family.

Mike Greer, 37, said he doesn’t sleep much any more.

Instead, he jolts awake when the security lights flick on over his driveway.

Ever since he moved into a Friendship Ave. home in May 2010 with his wife and their two children, aged 3 and 5, they’ve been at odds with a group of teenagers who Greer said are now targeting their home.

Raucous teenagers, he added, congregate on the property of West Rouge Jr. Public School next to his house at all hours of the night.

Last summer, when marijuana smoke blew into his son’s bedroom window, the Toronto District School Board teacher said he asked the teens to move along. But the teens fired back, swearing and refusing to budge.

“We started getting fed up with it,” Greer said. “If we don’t ask them to move away, we’ve lost the peaceful enjoyment of our house.”

That October, when he saw a group of teens breaking into a school bus parked on school property, he called police and the teens were caught.

That’s when things got ugly.

Greer said eggs were thrown at his house soon after, and the following month all four tires on his Subaru were slashed.

He said police told him there was nothing they can do unless the teens are caught in the act.

So, at a cost of $3,000, he installed security lights with sensors and two infrared cameras that feed into his garage.

This spring he met with his local school board trustee, Jerry Chadwick, and a representative from the office of his local councilor, Ron Moeser.

The school board installed a gate at the front driveway of the school to prevent cars from entering the property, and lighting was adjusted to stay on until midnight.

For a few weeks in May, a police community response unit patrolled the area at night and things were quiet, Greer said.

But on the May long weekend, two of Greer’s cars were scratched and tires slashed.

There have been more eggings — one Greer caught on camera — and just last week, a Molotov cocktail was thrown onto his property, extinguishing on the driveway.

When Greer returned home from walking his dog on Monday, a Pontiac G5 rolled up and he said the teens inside yelled threats at him: “We’ll get you. We know where you live.”

Greer said he has run out of options and has resorted to staking out his own home from his car.

“My first concern is my kids and my wife,” he said. “There’s nothing you can do to protect yourself.”

Chadwick said the school board is working to keep Greer and other residents safe from teens using their property.

Lights with sensors will be installed in the next few days on the north side of the school property near Greer’s home, Chadwick said, and they are testing the feasibility of installing cameras.

“Hopefully that will discourage this type of behaviour,” he said. “We from the TDSB will do everything we can to adjust the facilities to restrict their access.”

On Wednesday afternoon, two plainclothes Toronto Police detectives visited Greer’s home where they told him they would be investigating the attacks.

For Greer, all he wants is peace for his family.

“It was supposed to be a really great neighbourhood where we could raise our kids,” Greer said. “How does this end? We don’t know.”


http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/1221568--scarborough-man-says-family-targeted-in-attacks-by-local-teens

Holy cow! Teens in Scarborough are so bad! Looks like they are the most bad teens in the GTA! Well I feel so bad for this guy, getting treated like crap. If someone treated me like that, well I'd have to break their necks! Wow Scarborough is so bad, guess its like the new Jane/Finch.

And the cops cannot even help this guy and his family. Anyone that knows who is doing this call crime stoppers and report them!

[arclite]

So death threats are not enough to put them in jail? What good are the police and the justice system then?

[Junigenmukyoku]

I feel bad for the teacher, I mean how much more evidence does he need..

And OP, you need to read the news more, worse things happening in other areas. You better start calling them Jane and Finch too while you're at it.

[iEyeCaptain]

Anybody else find the name of the street he lives on ironic?

[AcidBomber]

reopened. Warning: If race is brought into the conversation, that user will be temped banned till Monday and the thread closed.

thanks oranr

[wwedx]

What does this property look like? If teens are blowing smoke into the window?

[wilsonlam97]

It's really just the ghetto part of Scarborough that is like that. I blame the parents.

[canehdianman]

Rock salt loaded into a shotgun shell does wonders to correct attitude.

[Wilmega]

lol OP trying to start a East vs West rivalry

[iEyeCaptain]

This is what happens when you have a crapload of kids to claim government benefits and don't parent them other than leaving them outside to play with your neighbor's similarly aged kids. The bad apples will outnumber the good apples thanks to peer pressure and lack of mature adults.

There is another part of the GTA that has a reputation for this.

Note to mods: I did not mention any specific race. Statement can apply to any race.

[sleepyguy]

Wow, some battles may have to be lost for the best of it... he should probably pick up and move elsewhere for the safely of his family. I'm kinda the hot headed type and would probably land in jail if any of this happened to me.

[elmst200]

Arrest made on a 17 year old.



Toronto Police arrest teen in connection with attacks on Scarborough home

Published 1 hours, 19 minutes ago
Jennifer Pagliaro Staff Reporter

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1221916--toronto-police-arrest-teen-in-connection-with-attacks-on-scarborough-home

Toronto Police have arrested a 17-year-old boy connected to attacks on a Scarborough home where a young family say they have been terrorized by local teens for more than a year.

The teen, whose name cannot be released under the Youth Criminal Justice Act, is charged with threatening property damage. He was arrested Wednesday and was scheduled to appear in court Thursday morning, a release said.

The charged teen is alleged to have approached the home of Mike Greer, 37, and his family in West Rouge on Monday at 8 p.m. in a Pontiac G5 and uttering threats.

MORE:Scarborough teacher says family ‘targeted’ in attacks by local teens

Const. Tony Vella said police believe there were more teens in the car and are urging them to come forward.

Vella said information from the victim, the police investigation as well as “community assistance,” led to the arrest.

Greer said he returned home from walking his dog on Monday, when the car rolled up and the teens inside yelled threats at him: “We’ll get you. We know where you live.”

Police are continuing their investigation into brazen attacks on Greer’s home, Vella said.

Meanwhile, Greer said he doesn’t sleep much any more.

Instead, he jolts awake when the security lights flick on over his driveway.

Ever since he moved into their home in May 2010 with his wife and their two children, aged 3 and 5, they’ve been at odds with a group of teenagers who Greer said are now targeting their home.

Raucous teenagers, he added, congregate on the property of West Rouge Jr. Public School next to his house at all hours of the night.

Last summer, when marijuana smoke blew into his son’s bedroom window, the Toronto District School Board teacher said he asked the teens to move along. But the teens fired back, swearing and refusing to budge.

“We started getting fed up with it,” Greer said. “If we don’t ask them to move away, we’ve lost the peaceful enjoyment of our house.”

That October, when he saw a group of teens breaking into a school bus parked on school property, he called police and the teens were caught.

That’s when things got ugly.

Greer said eggs were thrown at his house soon after, and the following month all four tires on his Subaru were slashed.

He said police told him there was nothing they can do unless the teens are caught in the act.

So, at a cost of $3,000, he installed security lights with sensors and two infrared cameras that feed into his garage.

This spring he met with his local school board trustee, Jerry Chadwick, and a representative from the office of his local councilor, Ron Moeser.

The school board installed a gate at the front driveway of the school to prevent cars from entering the property, and lighting was adjusted to stay on until midnight.

For a few weeks in May, a police community response unit patrolled the area at night and things were quiet, Greer said.

But on the May long weekend, two of Greer’s cars were scratched and tires slashed.

There have been more eggings — one Greer caught on camera — and just last week, a Molotov cocktail was thrown onto his property, extinguishing on the driveway.

Greer said he has run out of options and has resorted to staking out his own home from his car.

“My first concern is my kids and my wife,” he said. “There’s nothing you can do to protect yourself.”

Chadwick said the school board is working to keep Greer and other residents safe from teens using their property.

Lights with sensors will be installed in the next few days on the north side of the school property near Greer’s home, Chadwick said, and they are testing the feasibility of installing cameras.

“Hopefully that will discourage this type of behaviour,” he said. “We from the TDSB will do everything we can to adjust the facilities to restrict their access.”

On Wednesday afternoon, two plainclothes Toronto Police detectives visited Greer’s home where they told him they would be investigating the attacks.

For Greer, all he wants is peace for his family.

“It was supposed to be a really great neighbourhood where we could raise our kids,” Greer said. “How does this end? We don’t know.”

[Wilmega]

If i knew who these kids were - i'd wait for them late at night and beat there ***** with a broomstick

[sedated_xtc]

Heard about this over the weekend and damn, feel bad for the guy. But it's tough, that's why alot of people I know don't like living on a house that's adjacent to a school. If not for the traffic issues, then for the potential for jerkoff kids.


http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/1221568--scarborough-man-says-family-targeted-in-attacks-by-local-teens

Holy cow! Teens in Scarborough are so bad! Looks like they are the most bad teens in the GTA! Well I feel so bad for this guy, getting treated like crap. If someone treated me like that, well I'd have to break their necks! Wow Scarborough is so bad, guess its like the new Jane/Finch.

And the cops cannot even help this guy and his family. Anyone that knows who is doing this call crime stoppers and report them!

As a side note, OP, that's awfully quick of you to come to such a big generalization, no? Should I say that all Torontonians are so violent based on the Eaton Centre shooting then?

[iEyeCaptain]

The charged teen is alleged to have approached the home of Mike Greer, 37, and his family in West Rouge on Monday at 8 p.m. in a Pontiac G5 and uttering threats.

Like a G5?

[elmst200]

iEyeCaptain, are you a surrogate/promoter of Hairball? I noticed HB's HKID link is in your signature.
where is the HK thread?

Sorry for the digression.


Like a G5?

[silicontraveler]

Maybe if the government would decriminalize then kids wouldn't have to hang around in local parks like criminals? :facepalm:

[elmst200]

that part of Scarborough (south of 401, east and west of Port Union rd) is quite nice area, not a ghetto.

[flashy_mcflash]

Maybe if the government would decriminalize then kids wouldn't have to hang around in local parks like criminals? :facepalm:

As much of an advocate for decriminalization as I am, I hardly think that's the issue here.

I really want to know why, if he has this on video, action hasn't been taken against these little snots?

[wilsonlam97]

This is what happens when you have a crapload of kids to claim government benefits and don't parent them other than leaving them outside to play with your neighbor's similarly aged kids. The bad apples will outnumber the good apples thanks to peer pressure and lack of mature adults.

There is another part of the GTA that has a reputation for this.

Note to mods: I did not mention any specific race. Statement can apply to any race.

People should say the above more often. I think that your opinion is just simply the truth of the ghetto parts of Scarborough.

[jamesfitzgibbon]

Heard about this over the weekend and damn, feel bad for the guy. But it's tough, that's why alot of people I know don't like living on a house that's adjacent to a school. If not for the traffic issues, then for the potential for jerkoff kids.



As a side note, OP, that's awfully quick of you to come to such a big generalization, no? Should I say that all Torontonians are so violent based on the Eaton Centre shooting then?

City of Scarborough no longer exists - the area of Scarborough is part of the City of Toronto since amalgamation in 1998 (which for some reason nobodys gets correct) - so, yes, you should say that.

[Franchise10]

What does this property look like? If teens are blowing smoke into the window?

Google Maps (http://maps.google.ca) you can find it with bit of comparison to the picture in the article + details in article.

Average house for the area.. not sure why anyone would want to live that close to a school. Either way the kids and parents should be punished.

[Wilmega]

Heard about this over the weekend and damn, feel bad for the guy. But it's tough, that's why alot of people I know don't like living on a house that's adjacent to a school. If not for the traffic issues, then for the potential for jerkoff kids.



As a side note, OP, that's awfully quick of you to come to such a big generalization, no? Should I say that all Torontonians are so violent based on the Eaton Centre shooting then?

Im sure OP has no problems with the "West End"

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/article/1221703--man-wounded-in-jane-and-finch-shooting
http://news.nationalpost.com/2012/06/24/residents-shaken-after-shooting-at-upscale-north-york-condo/

But yea Scarborough as a whole is worse than 1 street in North York :facepalm:

[silicontraveler]

"As much of an advocate for decriminalization as I am, I hardly think that's the issue here. "

It sounds like this teacher called the cops because some students where smoking pot near his house. You know something like 50% of highschool student smoke pot right. But the cops don't do anything for this.

Let see, someone whats you put in jail for something that is harmless and has been done by teenagers for the last 40 years, should we be surprised? The kids are not dumb either they can read that pot is not harmful but alcohol is very harmful. They are sensitive about hypocrisy at this age too.
This teacher wants the kids to go to jail maybe he's paranoid about his own kids, but that's a rather poor attitude for a teacher.
The point is why are these kids hanging around the school at night? Because they have to hide from their parents. You see how the drama is created. Not to mention the high price of $10 a gram the kids are spending, which is lot of money for them. Ya they are mad, wonder why.

[ChinpokoMon]

Looks like the police ended up arresting one of the teens.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/07/05/toronto-scarborough-house-teen-arrested.html

[thelefteyeguy]

that part of Scarborough (south of 401, east and west of Port Union rd) is quite nice area, not a ghetto.

it's a hop skip and jump to Morningside and Kingston road...less than 3mins drive ;)

[manmanny]

"The teen, whose name cannot be released under the Youth Criminal Justice Act, is charged with threatening property damage. He was arrested Wednesday and was scheduled to appear in court Thursday morning, a release said."

So free ride continues. May be one Month House Arrest like the Vancouver rioters.

[flashy_mcflash]

"As much of an advocate for decriminalization as I am, I hardly think that's the issue here. "

It sounds like this teacher called the cops because some students where smoking pot near his house. You know something like 50% of highschool student smoke pot right. But the cops don't do anything for this.

Let see, someone whats you put in jail for something that is harmless and has been done by teenagers for the last 40 years, should we be surprised? The kids are not dumb either they can read that pot is not harmful but alcohol is very harmful. They are sensitive about hypocrisy at this age too.
This teacher wants the kids to go to jail maybe he's paranoid about his own kids, but that's a rather poor attitude for a teacher.
The point is why are these kids hanging around the school at night? Because they have to hide from their parents. You see how the drama is created. Not to mention the high price of $10 a gram the kids are spending, which is lot of money for them. Ya they are mad, wonder why.

Again, I am pretty open about being a pot user myself and I want nothing more than to see full decriminalization but I hardly think that smoking pot is the only reason they're hanging out where they are. I would wager that not one of them knows the history and real issues surrounding prohibition. I think you're making some connections in your post that simply aren't there. It's as problematic as those on the opposite side of the decriminalization issue who might be saying that the pot CAUSED them to go nuts and antagonize this man.

[D-Roc]

As much of an advocate for decriminalization as I am, I hardly think that's the issue here.

I really want to know why, if he has this on video, action hasn't been taken against these little snots?


Yes this is not about smoking weed and that should be left out of this thread. The teacher only asked them to move along as it was coming in his kid's bedroom window.


Now when he called the cops when saw the kids breaking into a school bus, how did the kids know it was him that called?? As the article states it got worse after that.

As for the video evidence. I was listening to him on 640 Talk yesterday and he said the single kid he caught on video had his face covered, so that did not help the cops at all




Looks like the police ended up arresting one of the teens.

http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/toronto/story/2012/07/05/toronto-scarborough-house-teen-arrested.html


Now that one of the teens has been arrested I can only see it getting worse for him. Is this area a high gang activity area?


If this was happening to me I might resort to setting up booby traps. Now I know that could cause problems for me if I ever did that, but it might teach the little buggers a lesson their parents are obviously failing to do.

[iEyeCaptain]

iEyeCaptain, are you a surrogate/promoter of Hairball? I noticed HB's HKID link is in your signature.
where is the HK thread?

Sorry for the digression.

We are the same person. We're amazed that the mods haven't found out yet.

The HK thread has unfortunately been amalgamated into "Off Topic Archive" graveyard.


People should say the above more often. I think that your opinion is just simply the truth of the ghetto parts of Scarborough.

Real talk: ghetto parts of just about anywhere, really. If you don't have a solid plan to parent kids, you shouldn't have them. I'm going to get flamed for this and I'm sure there are a lot of downsides, but I really do believe people should submit an application to have kids. If you don't have a solid parenting plan and/or you're not prepared to commit the time necessary, you shouldn't have kids.

[wilsonlam97]

Real talk: ghetto parts of just about anywhere, really. If you don't have a solid plan to parent kids, you shouldn't have them. I'm going to get flamed for this and I'm sure there are a lot of downsides, but I really do believe people should submit an application to have kids. If you don't have a solid parenting plan and/or you're not prepared to commit the time necessary, you shouldn't have kids.

Unfortunately you're right and your idea would be for the better future of Toronto but people can be such communists nowadays. :/
I wish we could lead the country China-styled and let one superior leader make all the right decisions vs. a bunch of democratic fools making the country a horrible place gradually.

All we need is somebody that is smart enough to realise all of this. iEyeCaptain for premier?

[Simaahoy]

Poor teacher, hope he get the justice he needs. As for the kids, they need more punishments to the full extent. Stalking and harassing someone is beyond too far.:!:

[sandikosh]

If I was the parent, I would use this
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/ok-abused-wife-hire-hitman-kill-husband-1198100/
as an example to protect my family.

This will only end when unnecessary force is used upon the teens.

[Mattones]

Its a only a matter of time before he snaps and does something.

I hope these teens get whats coming to them!

[LaserEnvy]

that part of Scarborough (south of 401, east and west of Port Union rd) is quite nice area, not a ghetto.

You are right about the area being nice (aside from the apartment buildings a few min away from his home). The problem with that area is that the people are ghetto.

[Xiaohaibao]

THe problem is that adults aren't allowed to hit kids in Canada. He's a big guy who could probably beat the ***** out of those little dinks with one hand, yet he has to put up with their ***** because it's illegal for him to hit them. In many other country kids never do things like this because they know an adult could just beat them to within an inch of their life and he wouldn't get in trouble.

[sylpherware]

THe problem is that adults aren't allowed to hit kids in Canada. He's a big guy who could probably beat the ***** out of those little dinks with one hand, yet he has to put up with their ***** because it's illegal for him to hit them.

The problem is that they know where he lives, but not vice versa.

[fakishan]

THe problem is that adults aren't allowed to hit kids in Canada.


Adults can't hit adults either.......

[willdacanucker]

I really want to know why, if he has this on video, action hasn't been taken against these little snots?
You actually expect the TPS do actually do anything they are supposed to do, without the media on their arse to actually make those overpaid and lazy swine do their jobs? Surely you jest. This requires a tad bit more paperwork than some traffic stop.

[CDNPatriot]

http://www.thestar.com/news/gta/crime/article/1221568--scarborough-man-says-family-targeted-in-attacks-by-local-teens

Holy cow! Teens in Scarborough are so bad! Looks like they are the most bad teens in the GTA! Well I feel so bad for this guy, getting treated like crap. If someone treated me like that, well I'd have to break their necks! Wow Scarborough is so bad, guess its like the new Jane/Finch.

And the cops cannot even help this guy and his family. Anyone that knows who is doing this call crime stoppers and report them!

Based on my own experiences Police don't do much. A neighbour is stalking someone in my household literally as soon as she steps out the door. I go out with her one day and tell a few words to the guy and he runs in and dials 911 and says that I threatened him (outright lie). He is over 6 feet and Im a smaller size. Police shows up at my employer to question me. I reminded them about our long history of reports of vandalism to the house, slashed tires, death threats by mail and phone (call trace did not work), and other harassing behaviour. That's not relevant they said.

Advised my MP and Councillor but the police don't do much. I feel for these people and no I don't live in Scarborough.