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condor11
Jul 6th, 2012, 12:31 PM
Let's say you (unfortunately) get in an accident and it's not your fault. And you have a Dashcam in your car.
What would you do next? Would you tell the other driver up-front that you have the dashcam video of the entire accident. Or would you only disclose this fact to police?

There's pro's an cons in both cases:

- If you tell the other driver about having a dashcam he may realize you have solid proof and will actually tell the truth to police fearing the consequences of lying in his story. Hence the whole thing will work itself out faster and with less stress.

- On the other hand if the other driver doesn't know you have a dashcam he may start outright lying ("I drove on green light, he drove on red!") to police and then when you present your evidence it's a clearcut that he was lying.

I still think majority of people are decent and won't blatantly lie about accidents, but, you know, things have happened and discussed here on RFD.

So, what's the best course of action?

Dr. Octagonecologyst
Jul 6th, 2012, 12:36 PM
Don't tell other guy you have dash cam.

If they're greasy enough to lie about an accident, you should just let themselves get f**ked by police/insurance.

flyz
Jul 6th, 2012, 12:45 PM
I witnessed some kid getting run over by a car and dashcam captured it all. Was supposed to send the footage to the po but nothing has happened yet. Guess the driver didn't lie, didn't help that it occurred in front of 20 other witnesses though....

But in your case, I wouldn't let the other person know.

condor11
Jul 6th, 2012, 12:46 PM
True, that's one way to look at it.
But because Dashcams are so new here in Canada the police is not familiar with them so it may actually be extra effort to get police to see the video.

And, speaking of which, how would you even show police the video? The screen on the camera is too small, and you likely don't have a laptop in your car. So the only option is to go home, copy the video, bring a laptop to police station and then hope someone will be interested enough to even see your video.

Does police in Ontario even acknowledge the dashcams and have any procedures to view videos from them?

Fkyz, where and how were you asked to send your video?

Jon04CTS
Jul 6th, 2012, 12:48 PM
Let the other person lie/BS then tell the cop, "Ok, now let me SHOW you what happened."

flyz
Jul 6th, 2012, 12:52 PM
True, that's one way to look at it.
But because Dashcams are so new here in Canada the police is not familiar with them so it may actually be extra effort to get police to see the video.

And, speaking of which, how would you even show police the video? The screen on the camera is too small, and you likely don't have a laptop in your car. So the only option is to go home, copy the video, bring a laptop to police station and then hope someone will be interested enough to even see your video.

Does police in Ontario even acknowledge the dashcams and have any procedures to view videos from them?

Fkyz, where and how were you asked to send your video?

Officer gave me his card, told me to email him a link. I uploaded it to the youtubes as a private video.

jimmy-j
Jul 6th, 2012, 01:45 PM
I still think majority of people are decent and won't blatantly lie about accidents, but, you know, things have happened and discussed here on RFD.



seneca newnham more than 10 yrs ago.

most definitely people lie about collisions. i was in a parking lot stopped completey waiting for cars to pass so i can safely turn out. a lady backed out of her spot right into my passenger's side. she said i was driving too fast and she didn't see me. lol

same parking lot. cars lined up to pay the attendant and get into the parking lot. lady rear ended my car and later completely denied ever being there. had to remind her that 1. we have a campus security report and 2. we have witnesses.

CONTROL ONE
Jul 6th, 2012, 03:52 PM
I'm an insurance professional. Trust me when I say everybody lies about accidents.

That being said, I would tell them up front before things progress to your word against theirs.

condor11
Jul 6th, 2012, 04:17 PM
I'm an insurance professional. Trust me when I say everybody lies about accidents.

That being said, I would tell them up front before things progress to your word against theirs.

Thanks!
So why is it that so many people lie then?
Is there absolutely no punishment from police if it is revealed later that they lied about how accident happened?

Or is it because of 5-th Amendment that protects person from incriminating themselves? In that case, of course they would not tell the truth as they would be incriminating themselves :)

iEyeCaptain
Jul 6th, 2012, 04:25 PM
Thanks!
So why is it that so many people lie then?
Is there absolutely no punishment from police if it is revealed later that they lied about how accident happened?

Or is it because of 5-th Amendment that protects person from incriminating themselves? In that case, of course they would not tell the truth as they would be incriminating themselves :)

People lie to minimize their insurance exposure.

5th Amendment is in the US

In Canada, we have the Section 13 (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Section_Thirteen_of_the_Canadian_Charter_of_Rights _and_Freedoms) of the Charter of Rights and Freedoms. :cheesygri

vaportech
Jul 6th, 2012, 07:34 PM
Lol, let them pull a ragu and get charged with fraud over 2500 lololol and public mischief.

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Jul 6th, 2012, 08:04 PM
Let's say you (unfortunately) get in an accident and it's not your fault. And you have a Dashcam in your car.
What would you do next? Would you tell the other driver up-front that you have the dashcam video of the entire accident. Or would you only disclose this fact to police?

There's pro's an cons in both cases:

- If you tell the other driver about having a dashcam he may realize you have solid proof and will actually tell the truth to police fearing the consequences of lying in his story. Hence the whole thing will work itself out faster and with less stress.

- On the other hand if the other driver doesn't know you have a dashcam he may start outright lying ("I drove on green light, he drove on red!") to police and then when you present your evidence it's a clearcut that he was lying.

I still think majority of people are decent and won't blatantly lie about accidents, but, you know, things have happened and discussed here on RFD.

So, what's the best course of action?

Well. You might end up lying too because your dash cam might got thrown out of the vehicle and the memory card is damaged. And you don't have proof either.

IMWHFMPC
Jul 6th, 2012, 10:36 PM
Thanks!
So why is it that so many people lie then?


Because they want to cover up their mistakes. Everyone do that, if you make a mistake you will try to cover it up as much as you can, and make as many excuses, it's part of human being brah.

jackiechan511
Jul 7th, 2012, 06:43 PM
Dashcams will be accepted as legal evidence if its YOUR dashcam and is not altered by weather, or physical conditions inside the car. It also must be uncut throughout the entire incident.

My view on this that you would NEVER tell the other party(-ies) that you have a dashcam running. Here's why. There's a lot of drivers who will attempt to lie or cheat their way in order to eliminate fault or try to minimize their role in the accident. Once they start telling the police all sorts of BS, then show the dashcam footage and let the police/courts deal with it and throw the book at the other driver (especially if they're driving on a suspended licence).