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pulsar123
Jul 11th, 2012, 11:00 AM
The original model, YN460, was already very popular with photography enthusiasts building their home photo studios, because it was probably the cheapest reasonably powerful flash available with manual power control. It did have a few issues. Then the second version came out, YN 460 II, which supposedly fixed most (if not all) of those issues. They were originally ~20$ more expensive than the version 1, but then I found the version II at the price of version I (40$ + shipping) at Meritline.com, and ordered it:

http://www.meritline.com/canon-nikon-pentax-olympus-speedlite-camera-flash-black---p-70248.aspx

The total came up to 50 CAD (no taxes were charged). I received the flash after ~3 weeks, and happy to report here that all the issues I heard about regarding the version 1 were fixed. Specifically:

- It has a PC sync port, which works fine in my tests (totally new and undocumented feature, so you are not guaranteed to get it);
- It is of a good build quality;
- The battery compartment door works fine;
- It recharges really fast - ~2 seconds in my tests at the maximum power, using freshly charged Eneloop batteries;
- It is very quite - no audible noises during recharging;
- The foot is made of metal;
- It memorizes the power level used last time, after you turn it off;
- The flash head rotates in both directions all the way, with "clicks" at certain angles (the way my expensive Canon 580EX does).

Other great things about this flash:
- It has a built-in diffuser and reflecting card;
- It has a built-in optical trigger, with two modes - one for a single impulse flash, the other one for a flash with a pre-flash (TTL). I tested it, the second mode worked beautifully with the pop-up flash of my Canon 50D camera. So you are basically saving yourself ~10$, and some additinal size and weight of an external optical flash trigger.
- It is 6 units brighter than the version I (real GN 34 vs. real GN 28 - see http://speedlights.net/2010/12/10/yongnuo-yn460-ii/). It makes it as bright as Canon 430EX.

To summarize - a great flash to use off-camera, e.g. in a home photo studio, for 1/7 of the price of equivalent brand named flashes. I wouldn't use it on camera though - it doesn't have TTL support, and the flash head doesn't zoom in or out.

I will use the flash as the last missing light in my basement photostudio - hair light. I already got the boom stand for that (~50$ from a Canadian seller on ebay), plus speedlite bracket (5$ from ebay), and I made myself a narrow hair light softbox, using silver reflector for car windshied + wire hangers from a dollar store + old bed sheet.

Here is a comprehensive review of the flash:

http://speedlights.net/2010/12/10/yongnuo-yn460-ii/

eman0621
Jul 11th, 2012, 11:08 AM
Do you know if this compatible with the Nikon D40X? Couldn't find any information.

Thanks.

pulsar123
Jul 11th, 2012, 11:16 AM
It should work with any Nikon camera, just be aware it was designed as a primarily off-camera flash:

http://speedlights.net/2010/12/10/yongnuo-yn460-ii/

rsauve
Jul 11th, 2012, 11:23 AM
Note in the reviews, & this has been experience also, the flash will overheat & close down for a while.
Also the built-in diffuser will fall apart - poorly built.
Aside from those 2 items - a great flash for the price.
I always have a back-up flash, because I know it will fail under pressure.

pulsar123
Jul 11th, 2012, 11:39 AM
There are actually a few differences between my flash and the one reviewed in http://speedlights.net/2010/12/10/yongnuo-yn460-ii/ . E.g., mine does seem to have a PC connector, on the side. Also, the battery compartmnent door seems to be sturdy. BTW, it looks completely different from the photos on the review site - mine is an alongated door parallel to the body of the flash. It looks like they finally figured out how to make it reliable.

I am not sure about sturdiness of the buil-in diffuser - seemed fine to me; besides I will probably keep it either always on (inside my hairlight softbox), or always off - so the sturdiness should not be an issue.

Newfie
Jul 11th, 2012, 11:50 AM
Quck question here:
Does it have a PC-synch terminal? You say seems to have one, but I couldn't see one nor is it listed on the site.
Thanks,
Craig



There are actually a few differences between my flash and the one reviewed in http://speedlights.net/2010/12/10/yongnuo-yn460-ii/ . E.g., mine does seem to have a PC connector, on the side. Also, the battery compartmnent door seems to be sturdy. BTW, it looks completely different from the photos on the review site - mine is an alongated door parallel to the body of the flash. It looks like they finally figured out how to make it reliable.

I am not sure about sturdiness of the buil-in diffuser - seemed fine to me; besides I will probably keep it either always on (inside my hairlight softbox), or always off - so the sturdiness should not be an issue.

pulsar123
Jul 11th, 2012, 11:57 AM
There is a connector looking like PC connector on the side of my flash, covered with a piece of rubber, which is not mentioned in the review.

If you are interested, I can make a photo of my flash and post it here, when I get home tonight.


BTW, my flash (the battery compartment in particular) does look different from the Meritline photo. It could mean that I got a newer version of YN460-II, but it is not a guarantee that other people will get it as well.

goofball
Jul 11th, 2012, 11:57 AM
Do you know if this compatible with the Nikon D40X? Couldn't find any information.

Thanks.

Yes, but it's manual, no TTL. If you want TTL, get the 465 (I have it and used it with D40). Got it on ebay pretty cheap.

Clee
Jul 11th, 2012, 04:14 PM
Yes, but it's manual, no TTL. If you want TTL, get the 465 (I have it and used it with D40). Got it on ebay pretty cheap.

If I want to use it wirelessly on a tripod with an umbrella, is it useful to get TTL version?

pulsar123
Jul 11th, 2012, 04:44 PM
From my experience, off-camera flashes don't really benefit from TTL - most likely you'll end up fine-tuning it manually. Especially if you use more than one off-camera flash.

In my home studio setup, I have two umbrellas (one with a cloth, to make it a large softbox) on stands, two plain flashes for background, and now YN460-II to be used with a boom light stand and DIY softbox as a hair light. So it is 5 flashes in total. To trigger them, I use a combination of two radio triggers from dealextreme.com, the rest being triggered optically. Everything (including the main umbrella with Canon 580EX) is used in a fully manual mode.

Clee
Jul 11th, 2012, 04:56 PM
From my experience, off-camera flashes don't really benefit from TTL - most likely you'll end up fine-tuning it manually. Especially if you use more than one off-camera flash.

In my home studio setup, I have two umbrellas (one with a cloth, to make it a large softbox) on stands, two plain flashes for background, and now YN460-II to be used with a boom light stand and DIY softbox as a hair light. So it is 5 flashes in total. To trigger them, I use a combination of two radio triggers from dealextreme.com, the rest being triggered optically. Everything (including the main umbrella with Canon 580EX) is used in a fully manual mode.

Wow too advanced for me!
I'll start playing with only one off-camera flash.
Which radio triggers did you get from DealExtreme? Which one do you recommend?

yyz2hkg
Jul 11th, 2012, 05:06 PM
.....nvm

pulsar123
Jul 11th, 2012, 08:07 PM
My flash does have a PC-sync port, and it works perfectly fine (only in the M mode - as expected). ALso, batteries are arranged in a different way, and the compartment door became much sturdier.

Here is the photo of my flash:

http://farm9.staticflickr.com/8148/7552870462_f7db693355_z.jpg (http://www.flickr.com/photos/syamastro/7552870462/)
Strobists's flash YN460-II, improved (http://www.flickr.com/photos/syamastro/7552870462/) by syamastro (http://www.flickr.com/people/syamastro/), on Flickr

pulsar123
Jul 11th, 2012, 08:19 PM
Wow too advanced for me!
I'll start playing with only one off-camera flash.
Which radio triggers did you get from DealExtreme? Which one do you recommend?

I got two of "Blazzeo PT04 RF Wireless Flash Trigger with Remote", 20$ each (link (http://www.dealextreme.com/p/blazzeo-pt04-rf-wireless-flash-trigger-with-remote-with-supports-multiple-flashes-6201?item=14)). They work okay. I had an issue with one not working occasionally, which was fixed by re-soldering internal battery contact. Also, these triggers seem not to work with the radio shutter trigger from DX (radio interference, at any channel), so for self-portraits I have to use camera timer.