Vancouver's the worst place to date

[Troodon]

I can now blame my virginity on something other than my poor sense of humour.

http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Vancouver+dating+scene+Where+thou+romance/6895779/story.html


So, why is it so hard to meet someone in Vancouver? Is it geography? Is it part of the city’s identity that the dating scene is as tricky to negotiate as its landscape, divided by waterways and forbidding mountains?

Is it the way the city is spread out and shuts down early, its denizens more likely to rise at dawn to pound up the North Shore mountains on their bikes before work than lie in and roll over for a little good morning sex?

Is it our ethnic enclaves that divide us?

Is it seasonal affective disorder, a collective low libido?

Personally, I think it is the fact there are too many cultures with different values on dating and attractiveness. Indians generally tend to marry with their own ethnicity while Caucasian women rarely give Asian men any chances. When I'm using OkCupid, most of the replies are from Asian women. I rarely get any messages from Caucasian women despite sending out very similar first messages.

Therefore, despite having a large population Vancouver's segregated its dating into many smaller ethnic groups.

[mysticalinfluence]

I can now blame my virginity on something other than my poor sense of humour.

Some how I doubt it's Vancouver's fault no matter what the Vancouver Sun says. This funny and extremely pathetic all at the same time that. :facepalm:

[uber_shnitz]

I agree there's only so much burden you can put on external factors. At the end of the day it's about people. Vancouver is hardly the only city in North America where cultures mingle and clash. Also, there's lots of mention of online dating in the article which IMO has different dynamics than actual dating and meeting people in other settings.

The key to overcoming cultural differences and preconceptions is exposure really. My girlfriend used to go to a majoritarily caucasian girls-only private school so she wasn't very exposed culture wise but she signed up for summer camp monitoring in my community where it was mostly ethnic people and she basically learned to hang out with lots of Asians and Hispanics and Middle Eastern folk. When she hit CEGEP (our equivalent of College), she was even more exposed to various cultures. My point is standards change depending on where you are and who you're with. Nowadays she's pretty much Asianized :lol:

[FrogPrince]

http://movie-reviews.com.au/sites/default/files/images/40_year_old_virgin.jpg

[ji2o0k]

its tough to lose one's virginity while in the parent's basement always playing WoW.....let alone meet girls....doesn't matter if you are in Vancity, Toronto or Timbuktu!

;)

[thelefteyeguy]

if you didnt score 24 hrs after the Olympics men's gold metal winning...you'll be a virgin for life.

[d182]

OP - I recommend moving out for your undergrad. Way easier to meet people when you live on campus or near it.

[vlado416]

I can now blame my virginity on something other than my poor sense of humour.

http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Vancouver+dating+scene+Where+thou+romance/6895779/story.html



Personally, I think it is the fact there are too many cultures with different values on dating and attractiveness. Indians generally tend to marry with their own ethnicity while Caucasian women rarely give Asian men any chances. When I'm using OkCupid, most of the replies are from Asian women. I rarely get any messages from Caucasian women despite sending out very similar first messages.

Therefore, despite having a large population Vancouver's segregated its dating into many smaller ethnic groups.


It's definitelly all of those things but the main reason by far is porn particularly internet porn with its fast novelty.
http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

Seems like a taboo subject for the mainstream media and the general public. I know this for a fact , speaking as
a recovering porn addict. Real life doesn't seem interesting with porn around and the way society is setup with
its darwinian , globalist, capitalist mindset that treats people like dead objects, it seems hard to really get to know anyone let alone fall in love.

[vlado416]

OP - I recommend moving out for your undergrad. Way easier to meet people when you live on campus or near it.

For many , it can be very intimidating to move somewhere where you don't know anyone and where people segregate a lot and everyone
is chasing something and any friendship let alone love interest is just a distraction.

[LaserEnvy]

It's definitelly all of those things but the main reason by far is porn particularly internet porn with its fast novelty.
http://www.yourbrainonporn.com/

Seems like a taboo subject for the mainstream media and the general public. I know this for a fact , speaking as
a recovering porn addict. Real life doesn't seem interesting with porn around and the way society is setup with
its darwinian , globalist, capitalist mindset that treats people like dead objects, it seems hard to really get to know anyone let alone fall in love.

I didn't know porn addiction was something you had to recover from? :eek::eek:

[4flava]

its tough to lose one's virginity while in the parent's basement always playing WoW.....let alone meet girls....doesn't matter if you are in Vancity, Toronto or Timbuktu!

;)

+1

Yeah, get out and play some tennis or something.. you might just meet your future wife there! ;)

[vlado416]

I didn't know porn addiction was something you had to recover from? :eek::eek:

Common misconception except that more than half of male population is addicted to porn and I mean internet porn which
is different from magazine porn because most people are on the internet today almost all the time and there is always
something new which is what counts. Always on and always new leads to addiction . There is a nature's way of going
overboard during the time of plenty whether it's food or sex . For males after puberty, the sex is the primary driver of
physiology and produces the most pleasure and motivation which is the reason for its addictive properties. Porn leads
to sexual dysfunction and judging by the sales of viagra and alike , the porn is a big problem .

Once the brain associates sex and computer/internet it becomes compulsive behaviour and the resistance is futile just
like eating the best dessert with everyone around eating it. With all of that said, the solution is not to get rid of internet but to
disassociate internet with sex and to fullfill life with other activities . This is the hard part because the societal obligations leave
little to no freedom to change a lifestyle

[ji2o0k]

hahaha....or go strike up conversation with women at coffee shops or grocery stores...

You would be surprised at what happens when you initiate conversation with women randomly...in different places...

As long as you don't come across as a creep and just keep a friendly, open demeanor - then it is all good...

If the woman isn't receptive to responding to your conversation, move on.....

[Swarez99]

I am going with the writer of the article has no game and is bitter.

[RolandCouch]

I think the issue is that you are blaming the city/people instead of looking at how you can better yourself.

[Agafaba]

its tough to lose one's virginity while in the parent's basement always playing WoW.....let alone meet girls....doesn't matter if you are in Vancity, Toronto or Timbuktu!

;)

I actually know of 2 people who met and started a relationship over WoW, both were women and one of them ended up getting married with children to that person.

[uber_shnitz]

I knew a guy who met his gf on WoW :lol:

[ji2o0k]

I actually know of 2 people who met and started a relationship over WoW, both were women and one of them ended up getting married with children to that person.


I knew a guy who met his gf on WoW :lol:what the?...

Where the heck were these women when I was playing WoW....lol!!

[uber_shnitz]

No idea lol I never played WoW :lol:, but this guy was pretty obsessed about it at the time (he went to his job, went ot the gym then played WoW with his free time).

[Agafaba]

what the?...

Where the heck were these women when I was playing WoW....lol!!

They pretend to be men most of the time, you have to catch them on vent/skype/whatever.

[pablonutribar]

I can now blame my virginity on something other than my poor sense of humour.

http://www.vancouversun.com/life/Vancouver+dating+scene+Where+thou+romance/6895779/story.html

Personally, I think it is the fact there are too many cultures with different values on dating and attractiveness. Indians generally tend to marry with their own ethnicity while Caucasian women rarely give Asian men any chances. When I'm using OkCupid, most of the replies are from Asian women. I rarely get any messages from Caucasian women despite sending out very similar first messages.

Therefore, despite having a large population Vancouver's segregated its dating into many smaller ethnic groups.


There was a previous thread on the possible racism against Asian males in terms of multiracial/cross-cultural dating. The final consensus (based mostly upon a Stats Can study someone posted) was that many Asian males' lack of romantic success with other races likely had more to do with culture than race.

[LaserEnvy]

There was a previous thread on the possible racism against Asian males in terms of multiracial/cross-cultural dating. The final consensus (based mostly upon a Stats Can study someone posted) was that many Asian males' lack of romantic success with other races likely had more to do with culture than race.

The lack of AMWF is indeed a great social injustice. Something must be done!

[Troodon]

There was a previous thread on the possible racism against Asian males in terms of multiracial/cross-cultural dating. The final consensus (based mostly upon a Stats Can study someone posted) was that many Asian males' lack of romantic success with other races likely had more to do with culture than race.

But race invariably influences culture. You can't expect Asians to be Caucasians with darker skin. The question then, is why don't Caucasians like Asian culture?

Women romanticize about French and British accents while they have no such feelings about Asian accents.

[webdoctors]

LOL, Come down to Silicon Valley, than tell me where's the worst place to date.

The ratio of Men to Women is +30% for the zipcodes surrounding the high-tech companies....

Vancouver the ratio is fine, so its really just U...

[ji2o0k]

Women romanticize about French and British accents while they have no such feelings about Asian accents.Because when people speak English with French and British accents, it sounds nice...

People speaking English with Asian accents, not so much......"Forever ronrey"....

I personally like when Latin women speak English...sounds so sexy....

[wilsonlam97]

LOL, Come down to Silicon Valley, than tell me where's the worst place to date.

The ratio of Men to Women is +30% for the zipcodes surrounding the high-tech companies....

Vancouver the ratio is fine, so its really just U...

At least you probably have a good job;)

[missmaldita]

I wish I met a boyfriend when I played WoW. lol. Date nights = raiding together :D

[thestar99]

It is a fact minorities have a difficult time dating caucasian women in person might well triple that online. I do know some asian bros who have beat the odds and have married white, indian and black women. Heck even some posters in RFD have achieved that. Nothing is impossible.

Hit the gym to start off, socialize with people and try new things that will put you in good place. Do not get discouraged when women turn you down just move on to the next one there are plenty of fish in the sea. Do not put women on pedestal.

Honestly I do not know why dating a white women is at the top of many minorities list

[uber_shnitz]

Honestly I do not know why dating a white women is at the top of many minorities list

Could be many factors really. Maybe some people aspire to the "liberal" Westernized way of living portrayed in the media and the chances of a caucasian mate increases over an ethnic one. Might be that most media portrays caucasians in majority still. Could be they want something "exotic" or "want to taste the local cuisine" as Raj's parents in The Big Bang Theory put it :lol:

Mind you, also depends on your background. Like I'm of Asian descent but I grew up in a suburban area which was majoritarily caucasian (we were 2 Asians in a school of 1500 people) so I'm mostly used to Caucasian. Not to say I don't find other kinds of women attractive, but I suppose it's what I'd gravitate towards first. The media potrayal probably also plays a part.

[Rainne]

It is a fact minorities have a difficult time dating caucasian women in person might well triple that online. I do know some asian bros who have beat the odds and have married white, indian and black women. Heck even some posters in RFD have achieved that. Nothing is impossible.

Hit the gym to start off, socialize with people and try new things that will put you in good place. Do not get discouraged when women turn you down just move on to the next one there are plenty of fish in the sea. Do not put women on pedestal.

Honestly I do not know why dating a white women is at the top of many minorities list

Probably just white people in general, you see them as heroes/leads in movies, TV shows, celebrities, etc.

Also, Canada does have British/French origins after all.

[noplan]

the comments section in the vancouversun article cover all of it already. have any of you replying even spent an extended time in vancouver? the local women here are insane. if they're not treating us like rapists they're telling us to take initiative. but when we do, we get shot down. and as such most the local guys act completely castrated. add to that the disdain for low income men (which vancouver is full of), and things get even worse

i spent a year abroad and had more va jay jay than i did a lifetime in vancouver. ended up with a kid, but whatever that's another story. even the east coast is better than vancity.

gtfo of vancouver if you want sex

[whampoa]

No idea lol I never played WoW :lol:, but this guy was pretty obsessed about it at the time (he went to his job, went ot the gym then played WoW with his free time).

He seems pretty normal and well rounded individual.

[uber_shnitz]

He seems pretty normal and well rounded individual.
He was normal in every respect when you talked to him, he just highly enjoyed WoW (probably played it between 6-10h a day). There's this stigma that WoW players are socially inept (which I suppose scales with the amount of time they spend on it), but this guy basically showed me that stereotypes are sometimes just that.

[RolandCouch]

It is a fact minorities have a difficult time dating caucasian women in person might well triple that online. I do know some asian bros who have beat the odds and have married white, indian and black women. Heck even some posters in RFD have achieved that. Nothing is impossible.

Hit the gym to start off, socialize with people and try new things that will put you in good place. Do not get discouraged when women turn you down just move on to the next one there are plenty of fish in the sea. Do not put women on pedestal.

Honestly I do not know why dating a white women is at the top of many minorities list

I was just gonna say....what's the big deal - guys aren't attracted to other women?

[thestar99]

I was just gonna say....what's the big deal - guys aren't attracted to other women?

I know plenty of dudes from different races have a big time hard on for white women. There is this good looking asian dude dated this fat ugly white girl for one reason.

Media messes up minorities standard of beauty but this was literally beauty vs beast case scenario.

[webdoctors]

That's odd, lotta guys seem to be chasing Asian women, and even if you talk to women, they'll complain that all the guys just chase asian girls now...

Even in the clubs, it seems picking up an Asian is tougher than a white chick


Could be many factors really. Maybe some people aspire to the "liberal" Westernized way of living portrayed in the media and the chances of a caucasian mate increases over an ethnic one. Might be that most media portrays caucasians in majority still. Could be they want something "exotic" or "want to taste the local cuisine" as Raj's parents in The Big Bang Theory put it :lol:

Mind you, also depends on your background. Like I'm of Asian descent but I grew up in a suburban area which was majoritarily caucasian (we were 2 Asians in a school of 1500 people) so I'm mostly used to Caucasian. Not to say I don't find other kinds of women attractive, but I suppose it's what I'd gravitate towards first. The media potrayal probably also plays a part.

[uber_shnitz]

That's odd, lotta guys seem to be chasing Asian women, and even if you talk to women, they'll complain that all the guys just chase asian girls now...

Even in the clubs, it seems picking up an Asian is tougher than a white chick

Well I'm no expert on it :lol: I'd assume they were chasing the Westernized Asian women perhaps? Unlike Asian guys who probably want to get away from the tradditional Asians they're used to in their culture (at least my friends say that :razz;)

[thestar99]

That's odd, lotta guys seem to be chasing Asian women, and even if you talk to women, they'll complain that all the guys just chase asian girls now...

Even in the clubs, it seems picking up an Asian is tougher than a white chick

White dudes are going after asian women and the rest are going after white women.

[RolandCouch]

White dudes are going after asian women and the rest are going after white women.

News to me. I have a lot of white friends and I don't think any of them has ever dated an Asian woman. Neither have I.

[LaserEnvy]

White dudes are going after asian women and the rest are going after white women.

The problem is that while asian women like white/black dudes, white women don't like asian dudes.

[IceBlueShoes]

Because when people speak English with French and British accents, it sounds nice...

People speaking English with Asian accents, not so much......"Forever ronrey"....

I personally like when Latin women speak English...sounds so sexy....
I have to agree, some accents are "nicer" than others. Just like some languages are nicer than others. Although IMO, this is up to personal preference. But think about it, most people seem to say that Romance languages are "sexy", ie. French, Spanish, Italian, but you likely won't hear anyone say English is a sexy language. It's not!

As for Hispanic women speaking English with an accent, I personally HATE it. It's like nails on a chalkboard. "Jes, I woood like to ave a nice hows for my familia to make me feel especial".
I say this having grown up around other Hispanics taking ESL as I'm Hispanic myself.
Spanish from Spain speaking English with an accent is a dif story though...

[thestar99]

News to me. I have a lot of white friends and I don't think any of them has ever dated an Asian woman. Neither have I.

I was talking about Vancouver where asians make up almost 50% of population.

[Ojam]

Saint John is the worst, there are no cool geek hangouts (not even a proper comic book shop) to meet my dream geeky girl, there is a almost 40% teen pregnancy rate, and 3/4 of the women in this city are trashy and uneducated. I need to get out of this city. Is it so much to ask for a smart lady that doesn't come with kids and I can have a conversation about pop culture and movies with?

[Xiaohaibao]

almost 40% teen pregnancy rate, and 3/4 of the women in this city are trashy and uneducated.
In other words they are easy... *books trip to Saint Johns*

[Xiaohaibao]

The problem is that while asian women like white/black dudes, white women don't like asian dudes.
Maybe they just don't like you bro, I have asian friends with white girl friends, and I see it all the time, I think it's actually more common than white guys with asian girls. THe least common thing is asian guy with black girl, I've only seen it once.

[xvizardx]

The problem is that while asian women like white/black dudes, white women don't like asian dudes.


I'm Asian, been stuck with white girls since age of 13.

First gf was Asian, I was 12, then everyone
After that are European/Caucasian.

Currently dating a white girl and if things continue, maybe i'll have those little halflings lol.

White girls like Asian men with confidence and style. The problem is, a lot of Asian men are too shy and have no backbone or way too fobby and annoying/loud.

[the_fm]

Maybe they just don't like you bro, I have asian friends with white girl friends, and I see it all the time, I think it's actually more common than white guys with asian girls. THe least common thing is asian guy with black girl, I've only seen it once.

i see that too but you have to look at the white girls personality. those who likes asian guys have either an asian fetish, watch korean drama, likes japanese/korean/chinese culture, try to live as an asian, etc.

of course, you have those regular chicks that are that open-minded and will date anyone but they are rare as most are coupled

[LaserEnvy]

Maybe they just don't like you bro, I have asian friends with white girl friends, and I see it all the time, I think it's actually more common than white guys with asian girls. THe least common thing is asian guy with black girl, I've only seen it once.

There is no way AMWF is more common than white dude-asian gf. Not a chance, dude. I don't think anyone actually keeps count but if they did, I am 99.9% certain that this could be verified with stats.

As for the asian guy-black girl sighting, I have also seen this couple in Markham not too long ago.

[techcrium]

The question of race is: How much of a statistical significance is it?

Obviously, if you are Asian, you have some disadvantage...but how bad is it?

Lets say you are muscular, westernized, educated with a good job...Is your race still that much of a disadvantage?

[the_fm]

The question of race is: How much of a statistical significance is it?

Obviously, if you are Asian, you have some disadvantage...but how bad is it?

Lets say you are muscular, westernized, educated with a good job...Is your race still that much of a disadvantage?

depends. it's all about confidence and putting yourself out there. race is only a disadvantage if you are using dating sites especially the free ones

[wilsonlam97]

i have to agree, some accents are "nicer" than others. Just like some languages are nicer than others. Although imo, this is up to personal preference. But think about it, most people seem to say that romance languages are "sexy", ie. French, spanish, italian, but you likely won't hear anyone say english is a sexy language. It's not!

As for hispanic women speaking english with an accent, i personally hate it. It's like nails on a chalkboard. "jes, i woood like to ave a nice hows for my familia to make me feel especial".
I say this having grown up around other hispanics taking esl as i'm hispanic myself.
Spanish from spain speaking english with an accent is a dif story though...

A woman screaming in a german accent. Oh my goodness. That is annoying.

[IceBlueShoes]

Depends what she's screaming about.
;)

[Troodon]

in other words they are easy... *books trip to saint johns*

lol +1

[wilsonlam97]

Depends what she's screaming about.
;)

That's what I meant:D

[Troodon]

I'm Asian, been stuck with white girls since age of 13.

First gf was Asian, I was 12, then everyone
After that are European/Caucasian.

Currently dating a white girl and if things continue, maybe i'll have those little halflings lol.

White girls like Asian men with confidence and style. The problem is, a lot of Asian men are too shy and have no backbone or way too fobby and annoying/loud.

Basically you're saying that Caucasian girls like Asians who behave like White guys.

[wilsonlam97]

Basically you're saying that Caucasian girls like Asians who behave like White guys.

Sounds like it.

[CanadaGooseForumAdmin]

I wish I met a boyfriend when I played WoW. lol. Date nights = raiding together :D

For you!

https://images.nonexiste.net/popular/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/My-girlfriend-and-I-wanted-to-cuddle-but-we-wanted-to-play-Diablo-too-This-is-what-happened.png

[92gsr]

Basically you're saying that Caucasian girls like Asians who behave like White guys.

Well, I would think that most people like the company of those who are most similar in culture and interests.

Why shouldn't Asian guys act like white guys in Canada? I don't mean drinking beer and listening to country or rock, but rather staying in shape and being confident and unafraid to speak your mind?

I reckon that the problem that the women in the subject article have is that they refuse to date outside a limited pool of men - those who live in hotspot neighbourhood such as Kits, Yaletown, or the West End and are typically Caucasian. There are plenty of successful men in this city who live outside of these neighbourhoods and are not necessarily white.

[pablonutribar]

But race invariably influences culture. You can't expect Asians to be Caucasians with darker skin. The question then, is why don't Caucasians like Asian culture?


Women romanticize about French and British accents while they have no such feelings about Asian accents.

A racist statement if I ever saw one....or just a miscommunication?

Maybe hunt down that thread mate. You will have a better understanding of specifically what I'm talking about if you read through that old thread....

[pablonutribar]

I'm Asian, been stuck with white girls since age of 13.

First gf was Asian, I was 12, then everyone
After that are European/Caucasian.

Currently dating a white girl and if things continue, maybe i'll have those little halflings lol.

White girls like Asian men with confidence and style. The problem is, a lot of Asian men are too shy and have no backbone or way too fobby and annoying/loud.

I personally think this is the point - it has less to do with race and more to do with culture. Western girls just don't dig that fobby shtick all that much. The non-fobby Asian guys that I know/met don't seem to have much of a problem finding white girls to date if they so choose...

[setell]

I wish I met a boyfriend when I played WoW. lol. Date nights = raiding together :D
Love your avatar :D


Saint John is the worst, there are no cool geek hangouts (not even a proper comic book shop) to meet my dream geeky girl, there is a almost 40% teen pregnancy rate, and 3/4 of the women in this city are trashy and uneducated. I need to get out of this city. Is it so much to ask for a smart lady that doesn't come with kids and I can have a conversation about pop culture and movies with?

So it is true that you went to the IWK as a kid since I vaguely remember you mentioning IWK in a post somewhere but didn't know you live in NB (was on my iphone at the time). Hope things are going well with the new kidney and glad to see you around :D

Oh Ojam, what confuses me of rural area Maritime's is they have kids really young :eek: Makes me feel like the oldest fart ever when I find out how many girls way younger than me have a few kids and married before age like 23. :cry: And no, your requirement is not too much to ask. I am asking for more :lol:

[Troodon]

A racist statement if I ever saw one....or just a miscommunication?

Maybe hunt down that thread mate. You will have a better understanding of specifically what I'm talking about if you read through that old thread....

My point is that if the girl doesn't appreciate Asian culture then she'll have a difficult time dating Asians and vice versa. For example, almost all African-Americans are born in the US (i.e. they're not immigrants), yet in general, their culture's very difficult from that of Caucasians. My point is that different races have their own sub-cultures.

[thestar99]

What Asian culture you are talking about ? Most asians completely assimilate into the system. Eating food and language is part of the culture its not fully. Watching anime does not count.

[Ojam]

Love your avatar :D



So it is true that you went to the IWK as a kid since I vaguely remember you mentioning IWK in a post somewhere but didn't know you live in NB (was on my iphone at the time). Hope things are going well with the new kidney and glad to see you around :D

Oh Ojam, what confuses me of rural area Maritime's is they have kids really young :eek: Makes me feel like the oldest fart ever when I find out how many girls way younger than me have a few kids and married before age like 23. :cry: And no, your requirement is not too much to ask. I am asking for more :lol:

Thanks. I blame the complete lack of things to do.

[manixc]

For you!

https://images.nonexiste.net/popular/wp-content/uploads/2012/05/My-girlfriend-and-I-wanted-to-cuddle-but-we-wanted-to-play-Diablo-too-This-is-what-happened.png

EPIC!! i want to find a girl like that!

[TheDarkRage]

I find it interesting how the women asked in the article are in their mid-to-late 30's. I wonder if the dating scene for women in their late 20's to early 30's is much different there.

And yes, Asian men often lack confidence. Damn Asian upbringing! Grow some balls and be a bit arrogant/confident!

[forthewinwin]

Caucasian women rarely give Asian men any chances. When I'm using OkCupid, most of the replies are from Asian women. I rarely get any messages from Caucasian women despite sending out very similar first messages.


It's funny, because on OkCupid they have those questions they ask mostly all the users when you try to "complete" your profile. You can look at the stats on OKTrends.
Apparently 52% of white women on there (from a fairly large survey sample) believe that people should only date within their race.

Based on my personal experience, it seems like the most common reason that caucasian women don't like asian men is the lack of physical attraction for them. That is, they don't like the look of them. It's the only (serious) reason I've heard of, aside from maybe the stereotype that asian people like to stick in their own groups so they may think of us as unapproachable. Otherwise you usually hear good things.

I'm Chinese and I briefly used OKCupid and I'll have to say my experience is somewhat similar to yours, although it was more like 2/3 asian messages, 1/3 caucasian.
However, I've never had an asian girlfriend before... everyone I've dated or had something going on with, in my life, has been caucasian.
I'm not the type of guy to talk to a lot of people- it just happens to be a funny coincidence, although I'm aware that you and I may not be suitable for a direct comparision since I'm guessing I'm considerably younger than you so my experience is limited.

Anyways, to contribute to the topic, here are some of the reasons I can think of:

- Stuck-up attitude of the people here, from both genders. Vancouver has received the fad for being the "best place to be", so you have these cocky people coming in and thinking they're the best just because they believe they live in the best place in the world. Many women with their unedcuated $10 - 13/hour jobs think they're the best and deserve everything, same with men with their beer bellies and dressed and acted like as if they never cared about their look, although I don't completely blame them since I've never found much of a decent selection of clothing here (although this is obviously subjective) and growing up here, it seems like the attitudes are spread, sometimes from the beginning of high school. Not to mention some of those women are very attention hungry. I'm not bashing all of them and there are good people here, but just many of the ones I've run into.

- Isolation. It seems like people here like to do their own thing, and this spreads to everyone. People don't naturally greet strangers and hence others would feel out of place to do so.
It just feels awkward to talk to someone randomly in a grocery store lineup here, and even in school. I've tried to talk to fellow students just to get to know the others in my major with zero intention to hit on them and they seem to just ignore you and stick in their little groups.



Why shouldn't Asian guys act like white guys in Canada?


Depends from where... in smaller towns you usually don't want to be like them.
Some of those are the type to get into trouble, drive old beaters or nothing at all, don't go to school and end up with some resturant or clothing job, are unhygenic, into drugs as a daily routine, etc... They're usually popular at a younger age but then everything goes down from here. I've seen them plenty outside Vancouver but still in the area, but in east Van I still see some of those people lurking about.


Saint John is the worst, there are no cool geek hangouts (not even a proper comic book shop) to meet my dream geeky girl, there is a almost 40% teen pregnancy rate, and 3/4 of the women in this city are trashy and uneducated. I need to get out of this city. Is it so much to ask for a smart lady that doesn't come with kids and I can have a conversation about pop culture and movies with?

Sounds like the smaller towns here outside Vancouver. Nothing new. Even an hour and half away from here I personally know a lengthy list of what you're describing:

Stuck up girl trying very hard to look good but doesn't look great, extremely cocky and thinks she's on top of the world, and s**ts out a baby or two before she's 20 (I've known a few 13 - 16) and ends up in some low-end sales job for the next decade. Not to mention the 90 pictures of her drug collection (would go into more detail, but last time I did that on another forum I got the thread locked). Look on her Facebook profile and there are her prego pictures with 20 "aw so cute" comments.

In the past, I used to question: Can I just meet someone normal...


many Asian males' lack of romantic success with other races likely had more to do with culture than race.

My family is very traditional and one of the last things they want to see is me (Chinese) with a white girl.
But I was born here and I like white women... :lol:
I can speak for many other asian people I know who actually would never date outside their race.

Let alone dating, there is a stereotype that asians are generally more comfortable with their own kind.

Perhaps there is a chance that this is where a possible negative stereotype developed? I actually know one fairly attractive caucasian female who has always wanted to date an asian man because she admires the focus on education and "looking good", but she was never able to find one interested in her and always found it funny that asians stuck to themselves.

[Forhad]

Than don't go to date there.

[LonesomeDove]

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No one has posted a picture of the three women in the article. But here it is.

They are pretty average looking. That's my subjective opinion. If you ask me, these women are asking for a lot in their choice of men, but do they have too high opinion of themselves?

[thestar99]

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No one has posted a picture of the three women in the article. But here it is.

They are pretty average looking. That's my subjective opinion. If you ask me, these women are asking for a lot in their choice of men, but do they have too high opinion of themselves?

Only the first one is good looking other two are average at best. Men need to stop putting women on pedestal. Even the average looking at best wants brad pitt. They should first examine their life style and look accordingly

[LaserEnvy]

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No one has posted a picture of the three women in the article. But here it is.

They are pretty average looking. That's my subjective opinion. If you ask me, these women are asking for a lot in their choice of men, but do they have too high opinion of themselves?

What must I do to date the short, big-bellied, chubby, middle-aged lady wearing a horizontally striped shirt? Please, I must know.

[the_fm]

I find it interesting how the women asked in the article are in their mid-to-late 30's. I wonder if the dating scene for women in their late 20's to early 30's is much different there.

they are pickier.

it's like this
teen - early 20s: will date pretty much anyone as long as good looking
mid 20s to late 20s/early 30s: looking to settle down. have incredibly high standards. will mostly stick to their own kind
mid 30s to whatever age: getting desperate. becomes more lax on their standards but still picky

[Ojam]

What must I do to date the short, big-bellied, chubby, middle-aged lady wearing a horizontally striped shirt? Please, I must know.

I think she is cute, I'd date her if we had some other things in common to have conversations about.

[92gsr]

Depends from where... in smaller towns you usually don't want to be like them.
Some of those are the type to get into trouble, drive old beaters or nothing at all, don't go to school and end up with some resturant or clothing job, are unhygenic, into drugs as a daily routine, etc... They're usually popular at a younger age but then everything goes down from here. I've seen them plenty outside Vancouver but still in the area, but in east Van I still see some of those people lurking about.

Well, those types of people are trash. I was thinking more along the lines of Don Draper. Asian people may have a lot of money in this city, drive the latest European cars, etc., but more often than not, they act and dress like they're teenagers.

But then again, the standards set by women here aren't incredibly high either. I remember I went to a single's event once in my 20s and I got asked by an older woman why I was wearing a suit jacket to the event. :facepalm:



Perhaps there is a chance that this is where a possible negative stereotype developed? I actually know one fairly attractive caucasian female who has always wanted to date an asian man because she admires the focus on education and "looking good", but she was never able to find one interested in her and always found it funny that asians stuck to themselves.

There are women who have Asian fever around, but they are few and far between. I've dated a few myself and what they like about Asians is that they typically age much more gracefully than Caucasian guys (who for the most part become alcoholics in their 20s and show it by the time they hit 30.)

[92gsr]

I think she is cute, I'd date her if we had some other things in common to have conversations about.

When you're in your 30s, both men and women have to lower their expectations.

On the other hand, a typical woman in her 30s in Vancouver does look better than her counterparts in the rest of the country. Chalk it up to the food we eat here (generally smaller portions and better ingredients), the climate (fresh air, lower humidity, no A/C) and the lifestyle - everyone has a gym membership or a yoga studio pass, plays a team sport, or is enrolled in some other kind of niche activity such as bootcamps. The quirky but sophisticated man she wants (likely a musician, non-profit CEO, sous-chef at one of our premier restaurants, director of a microbrewery, or perhaps an animator) is likely unattainable because such a guy has many other options.

[TheDarkRage]

If you're a guy, in your 30s and in Australia, you'd be a very happy man in the dating scene: http://m.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html?page=1

A lot of Asians seem to have the notion that as long as your clothing has some brand name logo on it, you don't have to give any thought on the coordination of your clothes. Nothing like seeing an Asian wearing nothing -but- all neon-coloured clothing and shoes, just rockin' dat ***** , aka being a giant walking billboard of awful taste in clothing.

[wilsonlam97]

If you're a guy, in your 30s and in Australia, you'd be a very happy man in the dating scene: http://m.theage.com.au/opinion/society-and-culture/why-women-lose-the-dating-game-20120421-1xdn0.html?page=1

A lot of Asians seem to have the notion that as long as your clothing has some brand name logo on it, you don't have to give any thought on the coordination of your clothes. Nothing like seeing an Asian wearing nothing -but- all neon-coloured clothing and shoes, just rockin' dat ***** , aka being a giant walking billboard of awful taste in clothing.


I always wanted to move there lol

[the_fm]

I always wanted to move there lol

i don't know about you but Australia is quite a racist country

[LaserEnvy]

i don't know about you but Australia is quite a racist country

I heard the same. I hear they really mistreat asians and browns.

[the_fm]

I heard the same. I hear they really mistreat asians and browns.

since the boat people i believe. anyway, as a single asian man, i wouldn't go there unless i'm a student then Melbourne would be the best place in Australia. it's the most diverse city down there

[Ojam]

When you're in your 30s, both men and women have to lower their expectations.


I'm 29, but have always had a thing for shorter, curvyier women with thick black glassses. It's just what I'm into.

[15-20_God]

I'm 29, but have always had a thing for shorter, curvyier women with thick black glassses. It's just what I'm into.

seriously dude?

http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/files/2011/08/snooki-glasses.jpg

[fakishan]

I think a lot of foreign men tend to mistakenly stereotype all white women as liberal, playful, and intelligent partners due to the propaganda that is Hollywood. Poor fools.

[techcrium]

Based on my personal experience, it seems like the most common reason that caucasian women don't like asian men is the lack of physical attraction for them. That is, they don't like the look of them. It's the only (serious) reason I've heard of, aside from maybe the stereotype that asian people like to stick in their own groups so they may think of us as unapproachable. Otherwise you usually hear good things.


Ok lets be honest, if this guy was in a club:

http://i.istockimg.com/file_thumbview_approve/2611134/2/stock-photo-2611134-black-guy.jpg

He'd get a fair amount of white chicks. Of course, there would be a good amount that would flat out reject him and there would be a fair amount that would flock to him.

Now I consider this guy an average/below average looking black guy. Now why is the average black guy able to get alot of white chicks? It is because most black guys look similar to a nonblack person. But if you are attracted to black guys in general, then obviously, you would be attracted to most black guys.

It's funny because I overheard 1 white chick in high school talking to another black dude. She said, "all the white girls are trying to get a black guy these days! Its cause we are open!!!"

Anyways, the point is: Media has a pretty big influence on sexual tastes. Black guys are pretty well represented in the media: Sports, music, film. Asians are not. Hence why white women are not attracted to asians.

[Ojam]

seriously dude?

http://xfinity.comcast.net/blogs/tv/files/2011/08/snooki-glasses.jpg

Combined with a good personality.

[techcrium]

Well, those types of people are trash. I was thinking more along the lines of Don Draper. Asian people may have a lot of money in this city, drive the latest European cars, etc., but more often than not, they act and dress like they're teenagers.


(im asian myself)

Yes precisely. Whenever I see a 5 foot 5 skinny, nerdy, asian guy who drives a Lambo, I don't envy him at all. When he is in the nightclub, he can't bring his lambo inside.

All he has in the nightclub are game and looks. And chances are: he has neither.

[forthewinwin]

Media has a pretty big influence on sexual tastes. Black guys are pretty well represented in the media: Sports, music, film. Asians are not. Hence why white women are not attracted to asians.

The ideal checklist for an asian female and western female also differs:

Western:
- Tall, handsome looking guy
- "Sweetheart"
- Takes me on ____ dates, does _____ for me
- Can talk about _____
- Physical attraction is near or on top of the list
- + Long list of traits unrelated to the asian ones specified below

Asian:
- Smart, highly educated
- Wealthy

Not meant to be offensive or anything, just stating the facts. If you view those TV drama shows where girls talk about their dream man, the above is what you typically hear them say.

And of course, asians typically obediently listen to their parents and are pressured to find a suitable mate in the family's eyes- that is, an asian female is pressured to find a wealthy, highly-edcuated man, while western parents give their daughters more freedom and combined with the lower emphasis of money, collectivistism (excuse my spelling), and status in the culture, they are more free to find a man with desirable emotional characteristics even if they are to sacrifice what non-physical positive characteristics an asian man has to offer and are less inclined to do it for their family's sake. In fact, she may have little to no regard to what her parents and/or family view as desirable. So, she is more inclined to just find some guy she likes for the time being even if he is not as well-off as his asian counterparts.


I think a lot of foreign men tend to mistakenly stereotype all white women as liberal, playful, and intelligent partners due to the propaganda that is Hollywood. Poor fools.

More traditional asians tend to stereotype westerner women as ones who break up, divorce, and split assets. It is not a positive view at all.
Although the divorce rates are skyrocketing in China, and on the positive side, westerners are viewed to care about money less.
Trying to word this as neutrally as possible of course. I am not trying to attack either culture.

Also, the list of reasons from a western female to not want to date a man or to want to break up with one can become substantially longer than one of an asian's, which then also servces as a source for this stereotype.

For the above reasons is also why many non-asian men choose to specifically date only asian women.



A lot of Asians seem to have the notion that as long as your clothing has some brand name logo on it, you don't have to give any thought on the coordination of your clothes.

Emphasis on status in the culture. With other asians it works fine, but outside asians where status is less-emphasized, it doesn't work as well.

[RolandCouch]

I think a lot of foreign men tend to mistakenly stereotype all white women as liberal, playful, and intelligent partners due to the propaganda that is Hollywood. Poor fools.

lol.....first of all - seriously? Girls like Lindsay Lohan show white women in a positive light? If anything Hollywood makes them seem worse.

Second - Nice to see that racism is allowed here as long as it's against whites :facepalm:. I'm sure if I said people often mistake (insert race here) as good, intelligent partners which is foolish, that it would be deleted instantly. Love the double standards.

[Rainne]

The reason why women are so attracted to black men is because of the media. As you can see, sports entertainment is dominated by African American athletes, ex: NBA, NFL, Boxing, MMA, etc. and the music industry as well.

So in a sense, the assumption is every black man is fit, athletic and has swag.

[thestar99]

The ideal checklist for an asian female and western female also differs:

Western:
- Tall, handsome looking guy
- "Sweetheart"
- Takes me on ____ dates, does _____ for me
- Can talk about _____
- Physical attraction is near or on top of the list
- + Long list of traits unrelated to the asian ones specified below

Asian:
- Smart, highly educated
- Wealthy


Lot of asians fit your first criteria and second criteria. Unfortunately because of dorks and shorties they are stereotyped. Plenty of Asian bros look like A & F model and get white women. Honestly which culture finds short, nerdy socially inept person attractive ?

I do agree media for indians and asians are underrepresented in media hence you see stereotypes like raj and stuff

[fakishan]

lol.....first of all - seriously? Girls like Lindsay Lohan show white women in a positive light? If anything Hollywood makes them seem worse.

Second - Nice to see that racism is allowed here as long as it's against whites :facepalm:. I'm sure if I said people often mistake (insert race here) as good, intelligent partners which is foolish, that it would be deleted instantly. Love the double standards.

That's a ridiculous stretch.

[DaleCooper]

I have a hot Asian friend from Vancouver who is currently in Toronto and single. She really just wants a nice guy and is not very picky. You do have to have manners, though. You can PM me for more info and no.... I won't email pic.

[nauru]

^ So ... what's the hourly rate for this girl, and do you charge any additional fees?

[RolandCouch]

That's a ridiculous stretch.

How is it a stretch? Your post was pretty clear that you were saying people who date white women expecting them to be liberal, playful and intelligent, are foolish. How is that anything but a racist generalization?

[DaleCooper]

^ So ... what's the hourly rate for this girl, and do you charge any additional fees?

Yeah... I said manners. No wonder threads like this show up from time to time.

[ronin1701]

I have a hot Asian friend from Vancouver who is currently in Toronto and single. She really just wants a nice guy and is not very picky. You do have to have manners, though. You can PM me for more info and no.... I won't email pic.

No pic = no proof.

[DaleCooper]

Well, hot is a relative term. I do find her cute. Anyway, I hope she finds a decent guy.

[fakishan]

How is it a stretch? Your post was pretty clear that you were saying people who date white women expecting them to be liberal, playful and intelligent, are foolish. How is that anything but a racist generalization?

Re-read what I posted lol. I'm not going to give an English lesson on how to read and interpret.

[RolandCouch]

Re-read what I posted lol. I'm not going to give an English lesson on how to read and interpret.

English is my first language and I majored in a university program that heavily involved reading and writing so I think you can spare me your 'lessons' as what you posted is quite clear. Furthermore you have quickly changed your tune from me interpreting your post correctly and making it a 'far stretch' to being 'completely off base'. Twist things however you like - what you said is clear cut.

[pablonutribar]

Lot of asians fit your first criteria and second criteria. Unfortunately because of dorks and shorties they are stereotyped. Plenty of Asian bros look like A & F model and get white women.Honestly which culture finds short, nerdy socially inept person attractive ?

I do agree media for indians and asians are underrepresented in media hence you see stereotypes like raj and stuff

Sigh. This here is the hard truth sadly......

[boonjaca]

Well, hot is a relative term. I do find her cute. Anyway, I hope she finds a decent guy.

Why don't you date her?

[dell]

Do Vancouver Men Suck?
http://www.vanmag.com/News_and_Features/Do_Vancouver_Men_Suck?page=0%2C0

[figment]

I'm a Asian male and some of these replies were spot on

I'm your typical somewhat shy, reserved, technology loving, video game loving Asian stereotype which I'm trying damn hard to break. Feels like what I'd imagine quitting smoking is like (sc2 is calling me as a write this)

The biggest hurdle is initiating a conversation, don't wait for her to initiate or try to piggyback on someone else. I have become naturally comfortable around strangers from working in retail. I always try to keep in mind that I got nothing to lose, big deal if she isn't interested just move on to the next one and take that experience.

I don't think Vancouver is a terrible place to date, I have a feeling it's the same as Toronto despite never being to Vancouver. Just have to take your game to the next level.

[RolandCouch]

I always try to keep in mind that I got nothing to lose, big deal if she isn't interested just move on to the next one and take that experience.


Just by having this attitude/demeanor you are already way ahead of most guys.

[LaserEnvy]

I'm a Asian male and some of these replies were spot on

I'm your typical somewhat shy, reserved, technology loving, video game loving Asian stereotype which I'm trying damn hard to break. Feels like what I'd imagine quitting smoking is like (sc2 is calling me as a write this)

The biggest hurdle is initiating a conversation, don't wait for her to initiate or try to piggyback on someone else. I have become naturally comfortable around strangers from working in retail. I always try to keep in mind that I got nothing to lose, big deal if she isn't interested just move on to the next one and take that experience.

I don't think Vancouver is a terrible place to date, I have a feeling it's the same as Toronto despite never being to Vancouver. Just have to take your game to the next level.

This saddens me. Guys should not be disingenuous just to try to get a girl. If a girl turns you down (or laughs at you) for being reserved or for likig video games, then she is not worth your time.

[Simaahoy]

No pic = no proof.

The guy is perma banned. No hope for pics guys:lol:

[ronin1701]

The guy is perma banned. No hope for pics guys:lol:

Wow, it only took 132 posts, that's gotta be a record! :razz:

[ishfish]

Wow, it only took 132 posts, that's gotta be a record! :razz:

Wow, that flouride really is dangerous stuff! At least to troll accounts. Watch what you mix in your hoarded ice tea.