Troubleshooting Computer Problem! (NEW PROBLEM!)

[Jimboski]

Edit: Reused thread; new problem with a different computer!

Problem : Computer starts up BUT makes beep noises quite rapidly.. Called "shorts beeps" or something.. Monitor doesn't seem to get detected and It's not the monitors fault since It works on my computer!
My friend says when he plays game specifically Diablo 3 and what not that It flickers and blurs out sometimes and shuts off; This was before when the computer stopped working.. Is this something to do with the GPU?
The computer Is old overall and was a pre-made HP computer..

I tried cleaning out the CPU heatsink and applied new thermal paste, Thanks!

EDIT: Friend says this happened before and It turned back on properly but this time around It seems to be permanent!

[arclite]

just make sure you have the box and all original packaging. File rma online.

[aeolus811tw]

sounds like GPU overheating issue.
check temperature first

[Jimboski]

just make sure you have the box and all original packaging. File rma online.

Oh It's an semi old computer so I'm sure the GPU warranty Is gone by now.


sounds like GPU overheating issue.
check temperature first

Alright!
Although It resets quite quickly sometimes..

[spike1128]

Oh It's an semi old computer so I'm sure the GPU warranty Is gone by now.



Alright!
Although It resets quite quickly sometimes..

Time for a new GPU. I wouldn't think it was the PSU first. I would think it's the GPU first.

[Jimboski]

Time for a new GPU. I wouldn't think it was the PSU first. I would think it's the GPU first.

Yeah I guess that's right.. Although wouldn't It kinda make sense If It was the PSU If It smelt pretty burnt also that It only supports 500W and the GPU already requires 500W+?

[aeolus811tw]

GPU nowadays can go up to 100 degree easily if you don't cool it properly, the fans are blocked or air flow isn't maintained
usually gaming temperature for a gpu should be around 80 ~ 90 max
any higher than that, even when theoretical GPU can handle the temprature, often you'll start seeing broken pixel, improper shader rendering or even driver crash.

these temperature dissipate fairly quickly when you turn off the graphic rendering application (game is one of them) right after the problem started to occur and would often fix the issue by itself (Except in the case of driver crash).

[Jimboski]

GPU nowadays can go up to 100 degree easily if you don't cool it properly, the fans are blocked or air flow isn't maintained
usually gaming temperature for a gpu should be around 80 ~ 90 max
any higher than that, even when theoretical GPU can handle the temprature, often you'll start seeing broken pixel, improper shader rendering or even driver crash.

these temperature dissipate fairly quickly when you turn off the graphic rendering application (game is one of them) right after the problem started to occur and would often fix the issue by itself (Except in the case of driver crash).

The computer was working fine for like a year or more.. I guess the GPU Is just dying out?

[aeolus811tw]

GPU usually does not die out like that easily.
What's the make of GPU and the model?
has the GPU being manually OCed? Through applications like EVGA precision

[jrees]

Pull out the GPU and clean that mofo...could be crazy dirty as you said it's 'old'. Heck, clean the whole system out. Seeing as the GPU requires 500W, it very still could be under warranty (typically 3 years)...worth a look. One other thing to look at would be the settings. Does he OC his card? If so, put it back on default settings. With potential dust killing airflow, the OC may have finally caught up to him.

What kind of card is it anyways?

[Jimboski]

GPU usually does not die out like that easily.
What's the make of GPU and the model?
has the GPU being manually OCed? Through applications like EVGA precision

BFG GTX 260 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143155) - What does "Lifetime Limited" warranty mean?
Highly doubt It's overclocked.


Pull out the GPU and clean that mofo...could be crazy dirty as you said it's 'old'. Heck, clean the whole system out. Seeing as the GPU requires 500W, it very still could be under warranty (typically 3 years)...worth a look. One other thing to look at would be the settings. Does he OC his card? If so, put it back on default settings. With potential dust killing airflow, the OC may have finally caught up to him.

What kind of card is it anyways?

Oh my friend cleaned the computer as a way of trying to fix It, It's dust free for the most part meaning there Isn't dust balls and what not.
He doesn't know how to OC so I'm guessing It Isn't unless It came pre-OC'ed..

BFG GTX 260 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143155)

[DavidY]

A few of the PS at this 43 unit test were over-rated in wattage (by up to couple hundred watts in cases)...seems to happen more often with lower end brands...not all 500 watt power supplies are rated equal:

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/pc-components/3361550/group-test-43-psus-from-500-700-watt-tested/

One of the best units in the above test is the XFX Core 550 watt Pro series....at $68 it's not the cheapest however. http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9

[xalex0]

Keep the PSU. It looks that it will find a use soon.

[Jimboski]

A few of the PS at this 43 unit test were over-rated in wattage (by up to couple hundred watts in cases)...seems to happen more often with lower end brands...not all 500 watt power supplies are rated equal:

http://www.pcadvisor.co.uk/test-centre/pc-components/3361550/group-test-43-psus-from-500-700-watt-tested/

One of the best units in the above test is the XFX Core 550 watt Pro series....at $68 it's not the cheapest however. http://pcpartpicker.com/ca/part/xfx-power-supply-p1550sxxb9

I see.. I might actually keep the PSU If the GPU Is indeed dead so I need a new/decent PSU to support the new GPU etc.


Keep the PSU. It looks that it will find a use soon.

True that, Didn't realize It till now LOL.

[DavidY]

Keep the PSU. It looks that it will find a use soon.

Depends on the PS brand IMO. FS typically sells Startech, Coolmax, etc.

Here's a review of a 750 watt Coolmax PS....reviewers found out it is only good for 450 watts or so.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Coolmax-CUL-750B-750-W-Power-Supply-Review/977/1

Dave

[Jimboski]

Depends on the PS brand IMO. FS typically sells Startech, Coolmax, etc.

Here's a review of a 750 watt Coolmax PS....reviewers found out it is only good for 450 watts or so.

http://www.hardwaresecrets.com/article/Coolmax-CUL-750B-750-W-Power-Supply-Review/977/1

Dave

It shouldn't be a problem as I got the "Corsair TX650W (http://ncix.com/products/?sku=58381&vpn=CMPSU-650TXV2&manufacture=Corsair&promoid=1207)"!

[DavidY]

I see.. I might actually keep the PSU If the GPU Is indeed dead so I need a new/decent PSU to support the new GPU etc.



True that, Didn't realize It till now LOL.

What is the new PS? Has the existing graphics card been in the system awhile?

Edit: Corsair HX650W should be good.

Dave

[Jimboski]

What is the new PS? Has the existing graphics card been in the system awhile?

Dave

Refer to my post above and yes the GPU was there originally when the whole rig was built!

[DavidY]

Limited lifetime warranty on the BFG card would be interesting to follow. I would contact them to see what the process is.

I would assume that you would send the card to them (who pays shipping?) and they would find out what the problem is (if not defective, you may have to pay them for the expense to check out....if defective, they would probably replace it with a refurb).

Dave

[Jimboski]

Limited lifetime warranty on the BFG card would be interesting to follow. I would contact them to see what the process is.

I would assume that you would send the card to them (who pays shipping?) and they would find out what the problem is (if not defective, you may have to pay them for the expense to check out....if defective, they would probably replace it with a refurb).

Dave

I'll let my friend know.. Although he might not have the box/receipt.. Even If It's lifetime warranty on that particular GPU would they care about receipt and what not? Also BFG Is a brand I've never heard of haha..
Thank you to everyone who contributed and we can safely say It's the GPU right!?

PS : Free thanks to everyone!

[aeolus811tw]

don't know why you guys went into PSU talk, the problem obviously has nothing to do with PSU.

to check to see if the card is defective or not, run a 3d mark test on it.
monitor the temperature on the GPU while running the test should provide clear picture of what is going on.

[xalex0]

don't know why you guys went into PSU talk, the problem obviously has nothing to do with PSU.
If it smells burnt then something must be burning. And you would be surprised how many PSU problems look like occurring with other components.

[aeolus811tw]

If it smells burnt then something must be burning. And you would be surprised how many PSU problems look like occurring with other components.

except if it smells burnt, it can also means the resistance of the coil caused the heating of dust, there is nothing wrong with this.
and PSU problem would never look like a GPU problem.

[xalex0]

except if it smells burnt, it can also means the resistance of the coil caused the heating of dust, there is nothing wrong with this.If it's hot enough for dust to burn then it has to be at least a couple hundred degrees in there, and it's plenty of wrong with that. If we are to take guesses, I would rather say, it's the fan that's causing the smell.



PSU problem would never look like a GPU problem.If you say so.

[DavidY]

If you have access to another computer with at least a 500 watt power supply, switch the graphics card and see if the BFG one works...if it does, it's not the BFG. Or try another PS...the new Corsair could be a lemon...unlikely, but it's not a "zero" chance.

Dave

[Jimboski]

If you have access to another computer with at least a 500 watt power supply, switch the graphics card and see if the BFG one works...if it does, it's not the BFG. Or try another PS...the new Corsair could be a lemon...unlikely, but it's not a "zero" chance.

Dave

I can put It In my computer, Would It harm mine If It Is broken? Take out my 5850 and swap In the BFG.. Corsair HX850W should be good enough right? :)!

[DavidY]

I can put It In my computer, Would It harm mine If It Is broken? Take out my 5850 and swap In the BFG.. Corsair HX850W should be good enough right? :)!

No promises....you may get a driver issue (nVidia vs. Radeon). Here's a trouble shooting checklist: http://www.huddysworld.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=310&catid=40&Itemid=72

Dave

[jrees]

BFG GTX 260 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143155) - What does "Lifetime Limited" warranty mean?
Highly doubt It's overclocked.

BFG GTX 260 (http://www.newegg.ca/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16814143155)

In this case it means no luck. BFG went under a couple years ago. :(

[Jimboski]

No promises....you may get a driver issue (nVidia vs. Radeon). Here's a trouble shooting checklist: http://www.huddysworld.co.uk/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=310&catid=40&Itemid=72

Dave

Risky! I'll just stick with the temperature method.. Swap out between the 500W and TX650W even though swapping out might not even be needed.. Doubt the TX650 Is defective.


In this case it means no luck. BFG went under a couple years ago. :(

Yeah hence why I've never heard of them LOL.

[jrees]

Yeah hence why I've never heard of them LOL.

I'd grab an EVGA if at all possible. Great (and FAST) warranty support if needed. They are all I use in my builds now. Asus would be my 2nd choice if at all possible. Good luck getting this resolved.

[Jimboski]

I'd grab an EVGA if at all possible. Great (and FAST) warranty support if needed. They are all I use in my builds now. Asus would be my 2nd choice if at all possible. Good luck getting this resolved.

ASUS makes GPU's? Never knew that.. But I've heard of EVGA!
I was thinking of getting one of these..

http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=59650&vpn=ENGTX550%20TI%20DC%20TOP%2FDI%2F1GD5&manufacture=ASUS&promoid=1207
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=63985&vpn=HD685XZCFC&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1207
http://ncix.com/products/index.php?sku=68526&vpn=FX777AZDF4&manufacture=XFX&promoid=1207

Budget Is probably like anything under $200 taxed.

[xalex0]

I'd grab an EVGA if at all possible. Great (and FAST) warranty support if needed.Do they pay for shipping when you RMA?

[jrees]

Do they pay for shipping when you RMA?

No, not aware of any manufacturers that would. EVGA is in California, whereas Asus has a depot in Markham.

[Jimboski]

Edit: Reused thread; new problem with a different computer!

Problem : Computer starts up BUT makes beep noises quite rapidly.. Called "shorts beeps" or something.. Monitor doesn't seem to get detected and It's not the monitors fault since It works on my computer!
My friend says when he plays game specifically Diablo 3 and what not that It flickers and blurs out sometimes and shuts off; This was before when the computer stopped working.. Is this something to do with the GPU?
The computer Is old overall and was a pre-made HP computer..

I tried cleaning out the CPU heatsink and applied new thermal paste, Thanks!

:arrowu:!

[balance]

Make a new thread

[Jimboski]

Make a new thread

kk :(, Thanks.