Hyundai Genesis Coupe

[Cartman86]

Hi

I'm planning on buying my first car on my own. (I've had 2 cars previously but under my dad's insurance name) I was thinking of a used Genesis from 2008-2011.

Any comments, advice, pros, cons, complaints etc?

How do you think the insurance will be? (26 male, Brampton, i've had one speeding ticket under my dad's insurance)

How is the fuel economy?

I can only drive automatic so it would have to be that.

Thanks for any help!

[RCGA]

I'd also look at a 2 door Honda Accord.

[coriolis]

Insurance: Kanetix.ca for rough estimate if you're on your own insurance policy. If not, ask your parents if you're under theirs.

Fuel economy: http://www.fuelly.com/car/hyundai/genesis/2011 http://www.fuelly.com/car/hyundai/genesis/2010

[booblehead]

Better get insurance quote first. You don't want to be shocked !

[Muney]

I'd also look at a 2 door Honda Accord.

Skip the Hyundai and look at the Accord.

[thrifthunter]

I can only drive automatic so it would have to be that.



Something wrong with your left leg?

[RastaManMax]

1) Buy stick
2) Learn to drive stick

[mack]

dont listen to those guys.

if you want a fun RWD car, get the genesis coupe or BRZ/FRS.
If you want a family oriented midsized sedan turned coupe, look at the accord.

I recon insurance will be cheaper on the accord though. The current gen accords are very nice! but FWD on a coupe is not very sporty.

I personally have a genesis coupe. the Turbo gives it a nice kick. If you can afford it, get the v6 with auto. Powerful engine with a nice ZF automatic transmission and you wont have to worry about subpar manual transmission (and its infamous 5th gear grind)

[thrifthunter]

The eclipse gt v6 is another nice car and you could a good condition 08 model in the $16k range..

[yellowmp5]

There are already so many GC discussion, and many RFD bias here seems to hate it for some odd reasons...

for example
http://forums.redflagdeals.com/do-you-like-genesis-coupe-1171341/





Planning on getting a 2012 Gen Coupe in a few months. I have a few questions for you RFDers…

1. How do you see the Gen Coupe (price wise, style wise, ect.)?
- best bang for the buck! get the 3.8L V6, 2.0T is underpower
2. If you own one, what model is it and how do you find it overall in terms of ownership and the kind of response you get from people?
- i have the 3.8 V6, love it, but you get what you pay for, my 2010 has the cheaper interior materials, and navi may not respond peroperly sometimes, say 20% of the time
3. Is Nordschleife Grey the best colour? :razz:
- i like my White, yellow is very rare
4. Do you like or dislike the Genesis Coupe and why (brand snob, looks, ect.)?
- i love it alot, it may not perform as expected, but it's a great head turner!



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[gilboman]

Something wrong with your left leg?

With the manual's in hyundai's... automatic would be the best choice

[RastaManMax]

With the manual's in hyundai's... automatic would be the best choice

If the stick really is that bad, look at a used G35 or 350Z instead. A sports car with auto sucks.

[thrifthunter]

With the manual's in hyundai's... automatic would be the best choice

No, the best choice would be not to get a hyundai. :P

[DJ_Peanuts22]

I'd also look at a 2 door Honda Accord.


Skip the Hyundai and look at the Accord.

FWD = No sports car.

[thrifthunter]

FWD = No sports car.

It's more of a sports car than an autotragic hundie!

[Mayosandwich]

Gen coupe is nothing but a rebadged Tiberon. Theres a reason why theres so many used 2010-2011 ones with little milage.


No, the best choice would be not to get a hyundai. :P

+1

[falen55]

Gen coupe is nothing but a rebadged Tiberon. Theres a reason why theres so many used 2010-2011 ones with little milage.



+1

What do you mean it's a rebadged Tiburon? There isn't a Tiburon out right now so this can't be a rebadge of something that is not being sold...


OP, if you're thinking of getting the coupe, it's only available starting from 2010. If you're gonna get a 2010-2012 coupe, get the V6 as the V4 is underpowered, as some have already mentioned. If you're gonna go for the 2013, you can get the V4 as it got a significant power increase.

[thrifthunter]

What do you mean it's a rebadged Tiburon? There isn't a Tiburon out right now so this can't be a rebadge of something that is not being sold...


:facepalm:
The tiburon was re-named genesis.

[mod_it]

:facepalm:
The tiburon was re-named genesis.

You're joking right?

Hyundai has stated the Genesis Coupe is not intended as a successor to the similar Hyundai Coupe (Tiburon or Tuscani in some markets).


The Veloster is the successor of the Tiburon.

I'd get you the references but you're just hating ;)

[coriolis]

The Tiburon (96 -08) was a front engine front wheel drive 2+2 coupe, the Genesis Coupe (08-pres) a front engine rear wheel drive 2+2 coupe. The successor to the Tiburon is probably the Veloster as mentioned.

[Mayosandwich]

Im talking on looks. I dont even think the Gen coupe looks all that great, dont see what all the fuss is about. All current Hyundais are hideously overdone and try way too hard to impress on looks. Unfortauntely a Hyundai isnt going to impress anyone. Ive been in one 4 months ago and wasnt impressed. Theres less leg room in the gen coupe than my civic wtf. I can sit in my civic with enough room so my knees dont touch anything but in the gen coupe my knees bash into the steering column even after adjusting everything as far as they would go. Dealbreaker. Plus the car is absolutely huge and the front end is massive. I mean like albatross massive, so big you would think theyre housing a v10 in there or something. But i wouldnt spend more than 10k on any Hyundai new or not. In 3 years no one will care for any of its looks cause they wont age well at all. 10k, Thats about what itll be worth in 5 years.

For the price of a gen coupe id much rather get an S2000, much better car and hold its value like glue.

[thrifthunter]

You're joking right?

Hyundai has stated the Genesis Coupe is not intended as a successor to the similar Hyundai Coupe (Tiburon or Tuscani in some markets).


The Veloster is the successor of the Tiburon.

I'd get you the references but you're just hating ;)

I don't give a **** what hyundai stated, they are in denial. The genesis looks just like a tiburon, appeals to the same type of market and came to existence the same time the tiburon went out. Yes I hate hundie but this isn't an example of me hating - it's just common sense observation. Veloster is nothing like it..

[skidz88]

Mad Hyundai hating going on here lol.

I will just say I have a 2013 2.0T R-spec Coupe and I couldn't be happier with it. And I came from owning a G35. When someone asks who makes it and I tell them it's a Hyundai, most people don't seem as curious about the car anymore lol. I've been criticized about going from Infiniti to the crooked H from people I know, but it's not their money spent and I love living with it every day.

And lastly...LOL @ Genesis = Tiburon

[AMXZaku]

I own a 2.0T 2013 and it's been amazing. Haters gonna hate.

[downloader]

dont listen to those guys.

if you want a fun RWD car, get the genesis coupe or BRZ/FRS.
If you want a family oriented midsized sedan turned coupe, look at the accord.

I recon insurance will be cheaper on the accord though. The current gen accords are very nice! but FWD on a coupe is not very sporty.

I personally have a genesis coupe. the Turbo gives it a nice kick. If you can afford it, get the v6 with auto. Powerful engine with a nice ZF automatic transmission and you wont have to worry about subpar manual transmission (and its infamous 5th gear grind)

There is nothing sporty about an auto slug box, put it in drive and gas pedal only are for grannies, put it in first and hit the power band then shift keeping in the power band is something you will never feel. poor you

[dassub]

Buy one and de-badge it, bro.

[Mayosandwich]

Buy one and de-badge it, bro.

Seems this is the first thing all gen owners do, cause theyre too embarassed to be driving a hyundai lmao


Mad Hyundai hating going on here lol.

I will just say I have a 2013 2.0T R-spec Coupe and I couldn't be happier with it. And I came from owning a G35. When someone asks who makes it and I tell them it's a Hyundai, most people don't seem as curious about the car anymore lol. I've been criticized about going from Infiniti to the crooked H from people I know, but it's not their money spent and I love living with it every day.

And lastly...LOL @ Genesis = Tiburon

Hate to say it but gen coupe isnt even that nice of a car.

[terrorencee]

Im talking on looks. I dont even think the Gen coupe looks all that great, dont see what all the fuss is about. All current Hyundais are hideously overdone and try way too hard to impress on looks. Unfortauntely a Hyundai isnt going to impress anyone. Ive been in one 4 months ago and wasnt impressed. Theres less leg room in the gen coupe than my civic wtf. I can sit in my civic with enough room so my knees dont touch anything but in the gen coupe my knees bash into the steering column even after adjusting everything as far as they would go. Dealbreaker. Plus the car is absolutely huge and the front end is massive. I mean like albatross massive, so big you would think theyre housing a v10 in there or something. But i wouldnt spend more than 10k on any Hyundai new or not. In 3 years no one will care for any of its looks cause they wont age well at all. 10k, Thats about what itll be worth in 5 years.


For the price of a gen coupe id much rather get an S2000, much better car and hold its value like glue.

Have you ever considered adjusting the seat? Either that or you're too fat or short or both.

Haters gunna hate... stick to your v-tecs fanboys. :facepalm:

[IndusVally]

Gen coupe is nothing but a rebadged Tiberon. Theres a reason why theres so many used 2010-2011 ones with little milage.

Haha, the Tiburon was fwd, Gen is pricier rwd, there are no mechanical similarities...

[m0cha]

So much Hyundai hate lol. I'm 6'1" and haven't sat in any civic that has more leg room than my gen coupe. I have a '11 3.8, manual, no tranny issues with mine, but if you're set on auto I'd recommend the V6. The 2.0T auto is some crap 5 speed unit, while the 3.8 gets the excellent ZF 6 speed box, paddle shifters too if you're into that. Oh, and the 'H' badges are still on my car :razz:

[gei]

Manuals are relatively pointless in this day and age. The big advantages they historically had - being faster and more fuel efficient - are gone. Why buy a manual version of a car when the auto is faster?

Sure there are days when it's more 'fun' to drive, but those are greatly overshadowed by the days when driving a manual is a huge hassle (ie commuting in traffic).

I've owned more manuals than automatics in my life... but in this day and age I really can't see myself downgrading to a manual car.

[awestruck]

Nothing wrong with getting an auto for a sports car. I would only get manual if you lived outside of Toronto/(smaller town), had overnight work hours and need to drive, or take your car to the track. Other than that, I don't even want to imagine driving a manual in Toronto traffic...

Check TD Meloche Monnex for insurance. They usually have decent rates if you're affiliated with one of their recognized groups.

[gilboman]

There is nothing sporty about an auto slug box, put it in drive and gas pedal only are for grannies, put it in first and hit the power band then shift keeping in the power band is something you will never feel. poor you

then why are all performance cars auto only? can you even name one high end performance car that comes with manual?

manuals are fun, but they are detrimental to performance or gas mileage. They are like manual roll down windows of yesteryears.

[yellowmp5]

then why are all performance cars auto only? can you even name one high end performance car that comes with manual?

manuals are fun, but they are detrimental to performance or gas mileage. They are like manual roll down windows of yesteryears.


actually, high end performance cars has Dual Clutch, Twin-clutch, DCT, SMG, DSC, etc.... the theory & mechanism of these transmission found in high-end performance vehicle is closer to a manual transmission more than an automatic trasmission


"the dual-clutch transmission, also called the semi-automatic transmission, the "clutchless" manual transmission and the automated manual transmission"

http://auto.howstuffworks.com/dual-clutch-transmission.htm

correct me if i'm wrong~

[dassub]

Manuals are relatively pointless in this day and age. The big advantages they historically had - being faster and more fuel efficient - are gone. Why buy a manual version of a car when the auto is faster?

Sure there are days when it's more 'fun' to drive, but those are greatly overshadowed by the days when driving a manual is a huge hassle (ie commuting in traffic).

I've owned more manuals than automatics in my life... but in this day and age I really can't see myself downgrading to a manual car.

My daily driver is a manual and I have no issues. It all depends on preference.

My old car (88 Audi) had a really heavy clutch, so city traffic wasn't fun.
But my current car (06 BMW) has a relatively lighter clutch, and I find it quite fine in any environment.

Why drive manual for a daily driver? More control, really.
When I get into an auto, it's hard to gauge what happens when you push the gas. If there's uphill approaching, I can easily shift into a lower gear in a manual.. in an auto, I know there's gonna be lag learning time before the car realizes it needs a different gear.

Also, winter driving is much easier in a manual :)

[gilboman]

actually, high end performance cars has Dual Clutch, Twin-clutch, DCT, SMG, DSC, etc.... the theory & mechanism of these transmission found in high-end performance vehicle is closer to a manual transmission more than an automatic trasmission



correct me if i'm wrong~

yes, i will correct you because they all have "automated" in front of it. be it DSG, SMG or whatever and has a computer chip deciding what gear you should be in and what rpm to "launch" at.

what is manual about it if it has automated right in the description?

[valinrace]

I still say if you really want a genesis coupe, buy it but have the car thoroughly check if there is any problem and ask about the insurance policy of that car.

[Heero01]

yes, i will correct you because they all have "automated" in front of it. be it DSG, SMG or whatever and has a computer chip deciding what gear you should be in and what rpm to "launch" at.

what is manual about it if it has automated right in the description?

The reason high end vehicals are all auto is because the rich don't want to drive manual. Simple as that LOL.

How many kids driving their dads lambos would buy a lambo if it was a manuaal? None.

[Heero01]

Hi

I'm planning on buying my first car on my own. (I've had 2 cars previously but under my dad's insurance name) I was thinking of a used Genesis from 2008-2011.

Any comments, advice, pros, cons, complaints etc?

How do you think the insurance will be? (26 male, Brampton, i've had one speeding ticket under my dad's insurance)

How is the fuel economy?

I can only drive automatic so it would have to be that.

Thanks for any help!

Hey - are u buying Manual? If so I would avoid the GC. Lots of transmission issues. I was test driving the GC when comparing to FRS/BRZ and I just could not feel comfortable driving the car.

As for a first car its a nice one for sure. I would personally go for the FRS if your willing to spend the money.

Good on you for buying your own car instead of using your parents money!

[gilboman]

The reason high end vehicals are all auto is because the rich don't want to drive manual. Simple as that LOL.

How many kids driving their dads lambos would buy a lambo if it was a manuaal? None.

so why is professional racing all auto?

[RCGA]

Regarding manual vs. auto, I'd buy whatever is more reliable in whatever company/model/year you want. The only people who care if you drive stick are high school honda civic racecar drivers.

[skidz88]

Driving with a manual gearbox is fun, plain and simple. You feel more connected and involved when driving. Seems this concept is lost on a lot of people replying in this thread. If you can't understand it, don't reply. Stick to your slushboxes.

[Mayosandwich]

Manual for Hyundai = fail. I know cause ive driven both and know others who have as well and all say the same. Hyundai has a long ways to go to even compare to the quality of a Honda MT. Hyundai is just learning the ropes.

[skidz88]

Manual for Hyundai = fail. I know cause ive driven both and know others who have as well and all say the same. Hyundai has a long ways to go to even compare to the quality of a Honda MT. Hyundai is just learning the ropes.

Seems they got it right for 2013. No issues with mine.

[thrifthunter]

Manuals are relatively pointless in this day and age. The big advantages they historically had - being faster and more fuel efficient - are gone.

Those advantages are not gone. And you also forget the main advantage - enjoyment!
Many enjoy driving manual much better, if you don't that is fine different strokes...

[falen55]

Seems they got it right for 2013. No issues with mine.

Don't worry, Mayo is just jealous that the Genesis is a better car than whatever he has and he can't afford one.

[Mayosandwich]

Seems they got it right for 2013. No issues with mine.

So it took Hyundai 3 years to finally get it right? Not exactly a good way to sell to customers if youask me. Hyndai got it right with finally no gear grinding in 2013, but still Honda is the king of MTs.


Don't worry, Mayo is just jealous that the Genesis is a better car than whatever he has and he can't afford one.

I wouldnt want a GC anyways, hard to be jealous of something you dont like.

[matdwyer]

So much Hyundai hate lol. I'm 6'1" and haven't sat in any civic that has more leg room than my gen coupe. I have a '11 3.8, manual, no tranny issues with mine, but if you're set on auto I'd recommend the V6. The 2.0T auto is some crap 5 speed unit, while the 3.8 gets the excellent ZF 6 speed box, paddle shifters too if you're into that. Oh, and the 'H' badges are still on my car :razz:

I'm 6'5 and 330 and easily fit in the Veloster. For the price Hyundai absolutely demolishes the competition with standard offerings. Haters going to hate, but even the resell values are holding up well now. It's just cool to hate Hyundai.

[zyphere]

So much Hyundai hate lol. I'm 6'1" and haven't sat in any civic that has more leg room than my gen coupe. I have a '11 3.8, manual, no tranny issues with mine, but if you're set on auto I'd recommend the V6. The 2.0T auto is some crap 5 speed unit, while the 3.8 gets the excellent ZF 6 speed box, paddle shifters too if you're into that. Oh, and the 'H' badges are still on my car :razz:

Despite the 5-speed auto being a dated unit, ironically there are more reports of the ZF tranny in the V6 crapping out.

[yellowmp5]

I must be very lucky then, my car was the last production batch from 2010 production line, and my manual transmission hasn't gave up on me yet. Only problem I have is replacing the navigation unit twice. Good thing the 2010 models comes with 10 years powertrain warranty.

[Supercooled]

Get a used 35oz. The sounfbof thag vq wl beg the question whh you even entertain the idea of a hyundai.

[Ziggy007]

Get a used 35oz. The sounfbof thag vq wl beg the question whh you even entertain the idea of a hyundai.

Apparently Nissan drivers struggle with grammar / spelling

[skidz88]

Get a used 35oz. The sounfbof thag vq wl beg the question whh you even entertain the idea of a hyundai.

Looks like a smart phone fail

[kingrukus]

Driving with a manual gearbox is fun, plain and simple. You feel more connected and involved when driving. Seems this concept is lost on a lot of people replying in this thread. If you can't understand it, don't reply. Stick to your slushboxes.
Well said. I will continue to buy manual cars until the option isn't there - it is MUCH more fun to drive, and I don't care if the automatic version may be 0.1 seconds faster in the 1/4 mile.

[ShadowVlican]

Get a used 35oz. The sounfbof thag vq wl beg the question whh you even entertain the idea of a hyundai.
not everyone likes the sound of that VQ... it sounds like a moaning cow imo...

[Mayosandwich]

Get a used 35oz. The sounfbof thag vq wl beg the question whh you even entertain the idea of a hyundai.

I would get a used s2000. The best RWD from the past 15 years and still looks great today and is worth more than any GC. But z370 is good too. That looks 100x better than any GC

[rileywai]

nice looking car.

[Supercooled]

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I would get a used s2000. The best RWD from the past 15 years and still looks great today and is worth more than any GC. But z370 is good too. That looks 100x better than any GC
Who said anything about a 370? Yeah they are nice but used pruces are about the same as a base 3.8 GC... the new one at that. The GC is understated for sure but i think if OP or anyone was going to buy a 1st generation model they are better off getting a 350z instead. it is a nice car.. More practical than a s2k and miata or rex8 in reliability. best sounding engine exhaust note in that sports car price range.

Thats just my opinion. I like the hyundai but it has kind of waned away to become somewhat of a joke car with punks who think they drive an exotic but a z is a z.